The Strongest In Dragon Ball - Vegito
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- How Strong is Super Vegito? How Strong is Vegito Blue? On this new series, we talk about the Most Powerful Characters in Dragon Ball from the Gods to the mortals, look at their feats and abilities, and tell you why they should be feared. On this edition, we look at Vegito, Vegito Blue vs Merged Zamasu and Super Vegito vs Buuhan tell us a lot about the power of potara fusion.
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Vegito is strong enough to leave an impression on any fan's heart.
Jiren the Grey+ hey jiren can you beat vegeto?
Are you ready For Last Fight in the Tournament of power
its why he is my fav
Zelleon Gexcior How? He's Goku and Vegeta combined.
@@bigenson18 simple goku just gets a potara into the stands the duck tapes himself to the arena
Honestly, it wasn't the retcon that made the potara fusion last an hour that annoyed me. It was the whole "use up to much energy and your time gets shortened" thing
SK 3 Yeah that's what I was saying. If the fight was longer, then the disappointment wouldn't have been as big.
can't agree with U more buddy
SK 3 I'm fine with the retcon, honestly do you want to the watch the rest of a dragon Ball series never seeing goku and vegeta again? It would also be boring becuase vegito was stomp every Villian that challenged them. The thing that pissed me off is that they can burn through the limit to where the fight is only like 4 minutes.
T diddle rice that's pretty much what I thought. Glad someone agrees with me
Another words what’s the point. Those writers have rocks for logic writing. They destroyed any kind of power scaling. Gohan competing with Dyspo? Yea ok that would make him as stronger as tournament start full power ssb Goku.
4:27 I’m like 120% certain that if Vegito had sneezed he could’ve accidentally gone Super Saiyan 3
What about burter he's the fastest in the universe
manuel berdon lol I think burter was smoking on that good shit
lol
And he was also tall and blue. And Jeice was short and red
he was the fastest 😂
Manuel B was the fastest lmao
the worst thing invented in dragonball are time limits
Tj Williams I mean tori has too if vegito didn't have a time limit he would be hax
almighty grape no u jus keep making stronger villians or jus set the strength standard high.
Correction: Dragonstones*
Tj Williams its the most powerful technique
@@tjwilliams5670 you cant make stronger villains forever. thats why dragonball will die if akira doesnt start with like the grandson of goku or so.
I've always loved Vegito he is easily my favorite character he's just such a bad ass
Vegito is my favourite Fusion. I loved seeing Buuhan "flail angrily" against Super Vegito. After everything he had done, after everyone he had killed or absorbed, Buuhan was no match for the strongest Saiyan alive.
same here but we are in the minority because Gogeta has had far more screen time.
@@Speedpunk650 idc about super vegito it's a stupid pothole, to me vegito is still the strongest character in dragon ball
Vegito is hands down my favourite fusion and character in Dragonball him and Bardock, I belive Vegito really is the most powerful character in Dragonball. Vegito has fun in a fight and makes it last because he knows that he has the power to back it up.
you know you're powerful as fuck when you beat up somebody as a piece of candy
For me, the biggest strength of Vegito is that he combines the minds of Goku and Vegeta. He has Goku's superb instincts and ability to copy techniques by seeing them once, alongside Vegeta's tactical genius and sheer determination. The power is just a bonus in this instance, but just based on what's in his head Vegito could fight circles around anyone.
Yeah I just want to see Beerus fight again..
I wanna see him lose and not to goku or win but a hard fought bout again not against goku
We all want this but they are friends now.
Vegito vs Beerus should fight again at some point I think it should happen at some point like let’s say if Beerus becomes possessed and decides to fight against Vegito imagine that imagine what they could do against each other
@@tehjboney3291 Beerus: ima kill you
Vegito: *breathes* boi *goes SSJBE* YOSHA
Beerus: AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH *gets murdered to death*
UI Gogeta: seems legit
*Almost five years later*
OMG HURRY!!
When buuhan realised that he cannot defeat Vegetto He *started ripping dimension*
When merged Zamasu realised that he cannot defeat vegetti He *started crying*
Gautama Black That's not why he was crying, it was a comedy bit. Did you even watch the episode?
zamasu didnt have enough time to realise he couldnt beat vegito
If it wasn't for Zamasu's immortality Vegito Blue would most likely end Zamasu with a single Punch.
Gogeta would've died easily.
Let's see how many salty guys reply to this
@@thelegendaryt-rex4763 hahahaha
@@thelegendaryt-rex4763 🤣
@@thelegendaryt-rex4763 Didn't get as many replies as I expected.
@@thelegendaryt-rex4763 no
Yeah till they made that retcon....
Not a retcon. it fixed a plot hole
Hex Productionz exactly
Hex Productionz No, There was never any plot hole. The explanation was Buus magic.
(in a film, television series, or other fictional work) a piece of new information that imposes a different interpretation on previously described events, typically used to facilitate a dramatic plot shift or account for an inconsistency.
Whether it fixed a plothole or not, it's still a retcon. We were previously told that Potara fusions last forever, and they retconned that fact.
The magic thing is a head cannon. The series itself never explained why Goku and Vegeta separated. Just because we don't like the explanation it doesn't mean that it's stupid.
I think people tend to forget how mind-bogglingly powerful Vegito is. Not to imagine his intelligence.
It kind of bugs me when people say Vegito could never beat Beerus.
Yeah me too Beerus is strong don't get me wrong but people saying Vegetto Blue can't beat Beerus is absurd how could he not even be a challenge to Beerus
Hold on... intelligence?
I don't remember either Goku or Vegeta being known as having high intelligence. Vegeta was a prodigy, but mostly in terms of fighting. Goku...
I would say that a large factor to the strength of their fusions is just how SKILLED they are when combined. 2 lifetimes of ceaseless combat experience.
@@craigpeoples9883 i still believe beerus *could* win i mean he’s implied to be on ui gokus level so he has a chance at least
@@theenjeneer2493Far point I'll give you that
@@LoncusZhao but there intelligence got fused, because that is the proof, BECAUSE he predicted to de-absorb the other fighters. To be able to think to go inside him and de absorb the others inside him is really unpredictable. And it wasn’t foolishness since he can vaporise him easily, he did it to one body part
I really liked this episode cause it was based on Vegito !
Vegito is my favorite character
Vegito just should have killed Buu since Gohan, Piccolo, Goten, Trunks, and the whole earth got destroyed anyways.
Everything would have been better if he just killed him.
Also Zamasu and Black should have defused since Blacks body was mortal and the Kai who gave them the Potara Ear rings said only God's can fuse permanently
SLIMBREAD100 Zamasu is a God.
Black is still Zamasu, who is a god.He still had God Ki even when he was in goku body which explains the SSJ rose
If he had killed buu then all of his friends wouldve been lost forever. You cant revive someone whos been absorbed by buu as theyre a part of him.
Kanavus I know that but I was saying Goku's body is not a God's body
Yes vegito wanted to be absorbed. I always liked vegito more than gogeta. But gogeta finisher is amazing
Based on power scaling there is no way zamasu should have been able to lift a finger against vegito
SuperSyro how ? both black and zamazu where already destroying goku and vegeta its the other way around mate
lord vegito individually they couldn't beat buu and they fused and buu was nothing more than a house fly. Vegeta is stronger than black and goku is stronger than zamasu so if they fuse fused zamasu should be no match at all its a simple explanation.
SuperSyro Vegeta isn't stronger than Black, that's been stated. Black is leagues ahead of both of them.
Kanavus yea he was u ain't seen the episode? Balck made it harder for them tk fight him after that new technique he used als even if vegeta is not stronger than him. They were not stonger than buu either still vegito should clown zamasu easy
Kanavus i remember vegeta and trunks shitting on black dude
I'm still pissed at the writers of super! They not only ruined Vegito, but they also ruined fusion in general for me.
DBS is alright, but I still prefer Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z.
@Goku BlackThe manga is okay the anime besides to T.O.P not so much
DBS is better than GT, but worse than DBZ and DB. I still wish DBS could've been better with the animation at the start.
Alright???? its pure garbage
@@dd-bk7ndmore like you kiddo. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
top 10 strongest characters in the db franchise
1-Zeno(s)
2-Daikaishin (Whis' dad)
3-Ssjb Vegito
4-Merged zamasu
5-Vados & Whis
6-Beerus & Champa
7-Hit & ssjb kaioken x10 Goku
8-Goku black
9-Ssjb Goku and Vegeta
10-Future Trunks (new form)
I put Vados and Whis as equals because they haven't fought in 1000 years, same with Champa and Beerus.
black is stronger than Vegeta because just before he fused he managed to hold off Goku and Vegeta.
Ssj4 Gogeta isn't here because super has shown us so much in terms of feats that gt has become fodder.
I'd agree with list. Put Goku Black above Hit though.
dragon ball shinobi I agree but I would switch Hit and Goku Super Saiyan Blue Kaioken x10 with Goku Black and Vegeta
all of these will be covered
Hamza Adrees Vados & Whis are more powerful than merged Zamasu, and SSB Vegito. Apart from that I agree except maybe Beerus and Champa as well.
Majin Vegeta I disagree but opions
Vegito made Trunks look very Strong
GamerX152 he didn't do that. He never had to do that because Buu was never released from his seal in Trunks timeline. Stop spreading misinformation.
Lebrun Jemz That was because Trunks was given energy for a Spirit Bomb.
Lebrun Jemz
oh get over it lol
Nah. First thing - the spirit-bomb-sword was probably more powerful than Trunks himself. Seconly, Merges Zamasu was maybe at 10% of his power because Vegito beat him up so badly.
Vegito was the perfect main character, too bad he got nerfed
A big discussion has always been if Super Vegito is actually SSJ2 because of the lightning sparks in the anime. I guess he is not but it would be nice to have a correct aura shown then.
Vegetto is my MOST favorite character. I just love every Vegetto moment!
vegito is Broke and op as hell. 100% Unstoppable
BIGSLAY except how they nerfed the shit out of him against Merged Zamasu, which is bull
@@enigmaoftheechidna6279 well if they kept them fused he would of probably destroyed fused zamasu
Ultra Instinct SSB Gogeta is more powerfuller.
Jiren would scrape Vegito. Vegito couldnt even beat Zamasu. Even after using his final kahmehameha. Which did nothing to Zamasu.
Well gogeta still stronger
You should talk about me next.
LOL!!
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You cannot defeat Big Green of the Namek People
Uncle Big Green Piccolo Are you sure? I´ve been eating a lot of rice lately.
Lmao! You've won this round
“Superior skill can beat superior strength any day”
I think a more overlooked aspect is how much of a skilled fighter Vegito is. We’ve already seen how both Goku and Vegeta can turn a fight around with their clever tactics. Well, Vegito has both Vegeta’s strategic and calculated thinking combined with Goku’s intuition and creativity which would make him probably the smartest and most skilled fighter in Dragon Ball.
Agreed
Can SSB Vegito beat the shit out of Superman? I say yes.
Depends which version of Superman you're talking about.
Does it matter JoGross? I say no. Cause when it comes down to it Living Tribunal takes them both (if you give me any crap saying otherwise then you clearly don't know what omnipotence is)
Jake Dennis pre retcon beyonder would kick the living tribunal's ass
Khim Cui That is very true. Then again, there was a bit in New Avengers where Starbrands detonation killed an adult Beyonder........I don't understand how they can be powerful enough to kill Living Tribunal but can't take a small blast. Makes no sense. =/
Jake Dennis it was bad writing or maybe the beyonders are invulnerable to the living tribunal's attack and that they are vulnerable to other specific attacks
Definelty my favorite character, it was great seeing him again, even if it was short-lived...
You know, when you think about how much damage Vegito Blue did to Fused Zamasu and how that must have had a massive effect on Zamasu's power, it does suddenly make it seem more plausible that Trunks would be able to finish the job.
If memory serves; Immortality does not make it so you can use your power as much as you please, it just makes it so you cannot die but of course Dragonball Super's argument to that is Goku Black wasn't immortal so it cancels each other out.
I would have liked that you also included vegito from dragon ball súper manga in your analysis. In the manga, vegito even severely damaged zamasu without transforming into ssblue, plus the kaioshin mentioned that he thinks that vegito blue is even stronger than Beerus. And one other thing is that in the manga he was not able to launch the final kamehameha because he defused exactly when he was charging it. It is implied that if he would have launched the final kamehameha we probably would have completely wiped out zamasu even if he has immortal. This is very important information to measure his power more accurately.
its possible that then zamasu wouldve started cloning himself
You talked about how in the anime, they had Vegito wrecking Buu in his base form, but that wasn't necessarily the case. Buu was holding back heavily against base Vegito. Old Kai points that out at that moment, and before Vegito transforms, Buu talks about how at his full power, he can beat Vegito. (Remember that Buu is referring to Vegito in his base.)
Listening to this video makes me angry. Super has so bad execution.
Here is just one example that could be better explained:
-Final Kamehameha did absolutely nothing;
Why was Zamasu not damaged at all?
Or if he wasn't hit, why didn't Final Kamehameha destroy more?
All we got was small crater really =/
The most wasted attack ever, I don't see attack in whole DB that was this wasted.
Yeah we can talk about our "headcanons", but honestly we can't even tell if Zamasu was hit or not.
SSJ Alfa Yeah or at least damaging him (some blood maybe, and holes, maybe without arm or something like that). It would also be more logical for Trunks to beat him that way. Since Zamasu would be very weakened.
Did you even watch the arc? Merged Zamasu is half immortal meaning he is almost impossible to kill, he has crazy resistance and crazy regeneration powers.
EDIT: I forgot to say, it did do damage. It made his body weaker and more tired so eventually when it was tired and weak enough Future Trunks killed him.
Mr. Sandwich I did watch it. And the problem is that it was rushed. We didn't get what you said, this is what we assume.
+SSJ Alfa
"it did do damage. It made his body weaker and more tired so eventually when it was tired and weak enough Future Trunks killed him."
+Filip Jeglic
I and many other people got it because they said it multiple times...
Yeah Vegito could defeat buu in his base form, because it takes both user’s power level’s and multiplies it, that means that since vegeta’s power level is way above 300, that means that the multiplier would be stronger than goku’s super saiyan three in his base form, and since their power level’s were in the MILLIONS in the freiza saga, since this is the end of z, I wouldn’t doubt their power levels are in the billions, meaning even their base form would be a HUGE multiplier, add that onto the god multiplier in super, AND super saiyan blue, vegito’s power must be INSANE.
Who knows, maybe before the tournament there might be an episode where the Supreme Kia mentions Vegito to Beerus and he would be curious enough to test him out. Hell even Whis would test him out. I can't be the only one who wants to see Whis go all out.
vegito is my favorite character I'm happy now.
I'm here early before all the beerus fans think he can hakai everything and beat Vegetto.. LOL
Hamza Adrees hahahah trueXD
That doesn't mean that he can't.
Hamza Adrees he doesn't need too, Beerus wud end up bussin that ass one way or another
lol he doesn't need it he would still wrecked him bad
Whis straight up said there's nothing Beerus can't destroy back in the Arale crossover a few weeks ago. That was when he Hakaid a ghost.
I know that Dragon Ball Multiverse (the manga) is totally fan-made, but what they did to Vegito in there is just pure gold
xShadowSaiyanx i think its better db then db super
Zensui how so?
@@Nutterbutter123 read it
Jacob Nunn say it, not like mangas are just sitting around.
@@1014p iirc they have vegito go ssj3 in Dragonball Multiverse. he gets so strong that it messes with the gravity in a pretty big area around him.
Vegito Blue would fucking destroy Beerus if not Whis don't @ me
T-Dub lol I luv ur jokes bro
T-Dub No.
T-Dub L
T-Dub People say Vegito Blue < Beerus which to me utterly doesn't make fucking sense.
Doubt it. SSB Vegito
what's the point of being so powerful if you can't be at that state for even 5/10 minutes?
yes indeed
Geekdom101 yo geekdom you my boy!
And that's exactly why so many people are pissed at the retcon, Vegito is now irrelevant. Unless, Goku and Vegeta train to be able to reduce the strain from fusing and augment their energy efficiency, Vegito won't last long enough in a fight to alter the balance.
Would be really cool to see them train fusion with the help of the Kais tho :P.
I have a solution! They can always wish to fix that with the dragonballs :D
When you don`t know the answer to the teachers question but still don`t want to say nothing..
Ssb vegito is the strongest non god character in super history people can speculate but I still believe he gets cut off by anything beerus and up we have never seen their true power for all we no at fp beerus could've stepped in and took merged zamasu out as well
No
Cameron Scott I agree. All the "VEGETTO BEATS BEERUS LAWL FACTS" comments are asinine, considering we haven't seen Beerus do much of anything.
It's hardly asinine if you accept the 'person A times person B' formula for Potara fusion. If that's the case even base Vegito would vastly surpass Beerus.
One of the reasons why I think those multipliers are overstated.
Ben English its asinine because when you make person a times person b you can have a look at what would be the fusion max power, while beerus didnt show his max power at any point in the manga or anime, and assuming that vegito is stronger than beerus is like thinking that x is a bigger number than y when you know x is 10 and the value for y is unknown
Just assuming shit like that is insane
So while i dont believe beerus would get defeated by vegito, i dont rule out the possibility
But by the looks of it, toryama plans to make beerus way way stronger than what he planed on the battle of gods saga/movie
+Gabriel D Well explained, people literally just pull facts straight out of their asses when claiming Vegito is stronger than Beerus, they also like to reference that Beerus got "scared" when he saw kaioken * 10, but then goes on to completely ignore that fact that in the very same episode, Champa confidently threatened to destroy Hit. So they take Beerus's word whenever he does or say something to make him look concerned, but then with the same breath completely ignore when he's acting confident.
This was such a sick video bro😄
btw bro quick question do u think we will see Vegito in next year's Dragon Ball Super universal survival Arc?
@Vegetto the potara fusion of kakarot and vegeta no he won't
Even if he is nerfed, Vegito just needs to born with its users, Goku and Vegeta, with the ssgss mastered so they do not waste power and can last its entire hour.
Why is everyone talking about Vegito forgetting the fact that in the manga its stated that Vegito from the boo arc is even more perfect because he is a fusion from a dead and a living person ? As far as we know that is a huge boost to, goku stated how easy holding ssj3 is as a dead person, so its implied that while dead controlling your key and achieving higher levels of power is far easyer, since it does not have an impact on a living body.
Maybe the more "perfect" fusion made it permanent but buus magic did undu the fusion cause that would make more sense
@@Deathwindgames I call BS. Fused zamasu was unstable cause he was a combination of an immortal and mortal, then why did vegitp work when vegeta was dead and goku alive. He should also be unstable.
Vegito in Z at ssj would be equal to ssj3! So ssj3 Vegito would be equal to blue evolution
Then u have SSB Vegito should be 3x that power! But can't maintain the form long
That doesn’t make sense considering Vegito was alive when they fused.
I just love it every time when they fused and he says “ALRIGHT!!!!”
Its like, he's just so happy to be here 😭
Bless you Vegito, you crazy gremlin man.
VEGETO IS MY FAVORITE CHARACTER EVERY I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING U SAID
That new outro goes haard. I can't help but bob my head to it every time, it's like an old school rap beat, I'm expecting Freeza or Vegeta to hop on the beat and start spitting some hot shit
the strongest character in dragonball are the shit writers that don't even know the story
The God VEGITO!!!?!! What
By your logic, Vegito having a time limit is a good thing then.
The God VEGITO!!!?!! How can toriyama the person who created the time limit has he provides bullet points and character designs those bullet points and also a overview of the saga are giving to the writers so they know the story very well
Dre Carmichael wtf he has admitted he has fought alot of stuff including that Saiyan has tails a basic fact
That is a fact yes but why does that effect what I just commented
Loved this. Thanks a lot Geekdom. Really explianed a few things (zamasu being OP etc). Didn't realise about the multiplier rather than just a A+B fusion. Keep up the great videos :D
imagine if the angels would create a potara, that can last 10 hours (and can be removed at will by the angels), Vegito SSB Evolution Kaioken 20 would actually be possible, and could totally give Beerus a good match, maybe the multiplier will get higher, of course this is an idea, but it ain't half bad
I think at that point vegeto would just obliterate beerus
SSB vegito should of beat Zamazsu (Easily) if he wasn't immortal
hahaumad I dunno about that. I'd put them as equals before Zamasu started to melt away
Kanavus Lol Vegetto was holding back
Agreed
How do you figure? Zamasu was able to fight on par with SSB, and Black was implied to be slightly stronger than Blue. It made perfect sense that they were relatively even.
@@codydutra7893 but zamasu is weaker than super saiyan so vegito should be stronger
Elder Supreme Kai also said Fusion was permanent
Grandpa C it was a joke
Grandpa C Elder Kai wasn't incorrect, he simply misinterpreted the fusion, due to being permanently merged with an old hag.
Mr. Shiro Winter yeah, but he told them that they would be fused together forever, even though he knew they wasn't Gods
Because he didn't know if the fusion would be temporary or permenate purely because there was never a fusion between 2 none-kaios that he had seen before, so he just assumed the latter.
The witch is not making the fusion between the her and the elder kai permenate because there was a kaioshin involved,
This is the only possible explanation that fits with canon.
Azura's Cape anyone with a Kai is , the witch and elder Kai is permeant and he hasnt wishes to be unfused idk why but he hasn't
I remember the spirit sword from one of the Budaki Tenkaichi games.
Is one of my favorite atacks
I been telling them vegito sronger than gogeta they don’t believe me
I was under the impression that vegito was so powerful in his base that his body couldn't handle anything past SSJ 1 because of the sheer size of his ki.
I have always believed that when they fused they shared all knowledge and memories. Plus on top of that I think Vegeta is smart enough that regardless never attaining ssj3 that would not stop Vegito from using it. Just maybe make it so they could not do quick transformation but slower traditional hair growing glorious transformation we all love. To add on my thoughts of the knowledge shared I have always figured Vegeta could go ssj3 if he really wanted and possibly has but knows ssj3 is to demanding on his body and not a good form fit him to use. Plus I think Vegeta knows how instant transmission works but possibly can't use it and why could explain why Goku has not tried to teach it to anyone. Goku has mental abilities that surpass almost everyone except the gods and some are possibly on par with the gods. He can read mind, speak to others with telepathy and scan for energy from insanely far distances beyond what others seem to be able to do. Could explain why outside of the gods only Cell and Majin buu have been seen using it too
Well now Vegeta knows it too
3:38 THANK YOU!! So many people attribute this as a fighting flaw, as being cocky but it was his strategy.
I believe that Vegitto can use SSGSS 3, or dare I say SSG 3. Although that also means that they will defuse in seconds.
are we all going to ignore the fact that monaka is space Hercule
Gogeta : Well hello there
Here's a simple explanation for people who don't understand the power of Vegito.
Let's being: Goku and Vegeta are a 1, SS3 Goku is 400, Super Buu is stronger than Goku so let's say he's a 500, Gotenks SS3 is stronger than Goku so he's atleast 550, Gohan is much stronger than Super Buu and Gotenks so he's atleast a 700. Then Buu absorbs Gotenks, he's now a 1050 he then absorbs Gohan so he's no 1750, so now we can understand how powerful Vegito really is. Vegito must at least be a 1850 multiplier since his base form is stronger than Buu, much in fact. Now let's say you're a manga guy and don't really base yourself on the anime, the daizenshuu states that Vegito base is at least at the same power as SS3 Goku (which I don't agree with) so he's a 400, bs really, but anyways 400 x 50= 20000 so here ya go, here's how powerful Vegito really is. Super Vegito is already so stronger he could take on 1000 Buuhans at the same time without even breaking a sweat since he still has SS2 and SS3 to trasnform. This is why I don't understand how Vegito can be weaker than Beerus or Whis, Beerus clearly go "scared" by Goku 10x Kaioken, imagine Vegito with SSB multiplier and Kaioken x10 on top, how can you beat that?! Unless that's another stupid retcon
tyuy100 NOPE! Potara multiplier is 400+ OVER 400 not exactly 400
And that's manga Vegito's power, anime Vegito is much stronger.
Doesn't matter, when people say over something it's either that or a close number, otherwise you wouldn't say over 400 because that would be just retarted.
id say vegito is a 2500 multiplier since he was playing with buu in his base form so 2500 x 50 = 125000 he'd be much stronger if he did SSJ2 and SSJ3 or even SSJB.
Yeah he's stronger than what I posted in that comment because I follow the anime, that was just an example for those who prefer to follow the manga where base Vegito never fought and it's said to possess the same strength as SSJ3 Goku which is BS, but just an example to show just how powerful Vegito is.
Yeah he's strong. But does he have enough power to destroy a Nokia???
Zuno should get a video. I mean the brain is the strongest muscle, and being all knowing is pretty ripped
King Jaylen Got rekt by Zamasu
DBZ showed off Vegito way more than super. In that episode where Vegito Blue fought Merged Zamasu I find it really hard to consider both of them to come even close to the gods powers, in terms of feats that is. Their fight was a small scale city fight and apparently they were going "all out". Now I'm not Akira Toriyama or anything, but I strongly believe that Beerus still> Merged Zamasu & Vegito Blue. I agree with most of the points you made in this video, but I feel like most of this can apply to Beerus off of feats + power scaling. I really do hope they show off Vegito Blue again in the Universal Survival arc going all out dishing out some true god-like feats.
& Zamasu was trying to become one with the universe not the multiverse, Idk where you got that from
Exactly. You can't base a character's strength off collateral damage. When Vegeta powered up his Galic Gun in the Saiyan Saga the entire Earth shook. SSJ2, and SSJ3? Not nearly as dramatic.
It's still really dumb how small scale that fight was.
Mydickisholy Vegito wasn’t even trying against merged Zamasu when he did he easily got the upper hand then the fusion ran out.
Why do we put so much emphasis on such a show with bad writing. I guess it’s fun to debate. But my personal opinion is that vegito is stronger than all the gods and jiren. That’s why they never allow vegito to have a full fight because it would be anticlimactic
1. "Given by the gods", it's not even that special anymore.
2. "He could have used the Kaio-Ken", no he couldn't because you can't use the basic SS boosts and the Kaio-Ken.
3. "Multiple universes"........just no Geekdom. In Dragon Ball Super Whis stated Beerus could destroy the universe if he used his full power, Beerus doesn't have the power to destroy multiple universes and neither would Vegito, since Buu Arc Vegito is so far below Beerus.
4. Merged Zamasu shouldn't have been as strong as he was. He's a Fusion of Goku Black, who's power is more or less slightly above SSB Goku and Vegeta and Zamasu who while being immortal is also weaker than SS2 Goku. It really doesn't make much sense.
KasaiWolf07 mostly focuses on your last point the only reason merged zamasu was as strong as he was was because he was immortal plus the fact that Goku, Vegeta and Trunks were already beat up at the time.
Tharja Is Best Waifu But in comparison to Vegito (who was healed due to Goku and Vegeta taking the beans), Vegito should have broken him like a twig especially since he got his convinient little weakness after he turned into his ugly mode.
KasaiWolf07 The immortality is what kept Zamasu in the end. The Final Kamehameha would have easily ended him if he wasn't immortal.
Osuman M. Perhaps but he wasn't truly "immortal" apparently he was half immortal and half mortal....which makes no sense.
KasaiWolf07 They just mean his regeneration wasn't going to work all the way since Zamasu Black wasn't immortal.
Honestly even Beerus Goku and Vegeta dont have to try all that hard to wipe out the enitre universe. Universal destruction is kinda a normal thing at this point.
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It is like Toyo and Toei have nerfed Vegetto Blue to turn the narrative more tense.
Vegito vs Super Buu made me feel like he was really strong but in Super he made Trunks look just as strong.
I have a question.
If the potara fusion is permanent on gods. and guku and vegeta would have transformed into super saiyan god or blue and then fused. would the fusion last forever? caz they are technically gods.
Because with super Saiyan god and blue they have the power of a god but they’re still mortals. They’re not like the gods of destruction or the kais
2 dislikes after 4 minutes, yep
klooger28 Gogeta fanboys.
theres people who get notifications who are subbed who dislike me - theyre fanboys who are salty for being banned
It's impressive how fast they act. Very dedicated haters.
DunkeyKung Someone doesn't know how to take a joke.
Vegetto should've been the one fighting in this upcoming tournament :(
Screw your retcons Toriyama 🖕☹️
Ace Younge If he did fight in the tournament.. then it’d be an easy win.. Kefla gets booty raped, Toppo gets booty raped, Dypso gets booty raped and Jiren is turned into Vegito’s bitch
jirens debatable i'de say vegetto beats jiren
@@justanothercommenterwithan9089 definitely. Seeing that vegitos base is stronger than both ssb goku and vegeta, He would maul jiren
@@hydroreviews3305 yeah but goku and and vegeta go exponentially stronger between black and the end of the top
Goku + Vegeta= the perfect warrior
Post ToP Vegito Blue would humiliate Beerus. Not even a contest. There’s literally no possible debate in Beerus’ favor. There can’t be.
There is
Bruh super saiyan blue Goku dominates super saiyan 4 gogeta
dragon ball shinobi nope
lawrence arot yep
dragon ball shinobi we can't say for exact. Defo possible.
Dokkan Battle Giveaways well it will change IF ssj4 goku,vegeta,and gogeta will be canon.
cannon doesn't matter what matters here is feats ssj4 never showed a good feat than ssb
I hate this new plutara rule... it basically means they can become Vegeto whenever they need...
I last longer than Vegito.
That's NOT what she said
Quoting a certain blue guy, "I'm the fathtetht in the Univerthe!"
He can kick your ass in 0.0000000000001 secs
Buu got beat up by a piece of candy. I remember during his fight with Vegito I must've said "just stop man" like a hundred times. I don't know if anyone had so much control over a fight as Vegito did with Buu. Candy, bro...
Also technically vegito really has to hold back he doesn’t want to destroy anybody so he must have to hold back
My Favorite Fusion Vegito.....
this is one of the reasons why i don't like db super that much. they nerfed him completely.
Love the new series Geekdom! :)
Thank you!!! Been waiting for this!
broly vs golden frieza really screwed with time. they made it seem like that fight lasted long enough for the fusion to work again. no way would that happen. they move faster than light basically and broly was wrecking frieza gold. it wouldn't have lasted even minutes. cool videos btw. thanks.
vegito is stronger than gogeta
basheer rko no shit
@@merqzzy You'd be surprised how many people blow Gogeta and say he's stronger.
False 😆 they are equal
Detroit's Reaper no they are not. Even so he will still win because he has more time
@@faisal-a yes they are equal and based on the retcon vegeto would only have 5 mins in blue and i havent seen the new broly movie but i doubt gogeta will only have that low of a time so he'd mostly likely win now. But i wasnt arguing who would win i was just saying they are equal with they are
Majin Buu could collapse the universe but hey, Beerus is still stronger and doesn't know about this guy. This type of writing just annoys me.
beerus was asleep at that time besides if he did destroy the universe whis probably would have turned back time n did something about it
Mastered Ultra Instinct goku + Beyond Super Saiyan Blue Vegeta
that's all i have to say
Plus kaioken x 20
News flash Goku only can access ui in extreme down moments. At this pint his power is typically very depleted. Another words no where near as strong as he could be if truly mastered ui. It’s just dubbed MUI because he can land hard hitting attacks now, but as usual per crappy writing in a depleted body state.
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Merged Zamasu second to the Omni-king? Aaaaarrhh... Thats a little to much... ! ;-)
Half his body is immortal. But very good video!
I remember back in the day when I finished z, I thought to myself well I guess vegito is the highest level being in dragonball lol
imagine if Gohan caught the potara and fused with Goku. Would've blew Vegito out of the water in terms of strength but would prob lack in the amount of techniques he has.
BloodHound HD I don't think so.
In Z, Old Kai said that Goku and Vegeta created a more powerful fusion than anticipated due to them being rivals. Goku and Gohan probably wouldn't have gotten a boost like that.
very strong yes
Gokhan is implied to be stronger than buutenks in base. No such thing is known of vegito. I have base vegito weaker than super buu base, but stronger than ss2 gotenks (hypothetical). Ssj gokhan would be stronger than any of the ssj blues and probably beerus.
+Jiron127 Where do you get this logic from? Gohkan *might* be stronger in terms of raw power but the overall strongest fusion is Vegetto just over the fact that he has the experience and the rival boost
I see where you're coming from, but Vegito is supposed to be the perfect fighter since Goku and Vegeta make up for each other's weaknesses in the form of Vegito. It's more or less implied in the Resurrection F arc when Whis points out their potential if they were to work together
Most of people say vegito can beat beerus, seriously later they will tell that vegito can beat grand preast.
Vegito can beat Beerus, but probably not the Grand Priest.
MUI Goku could handle Beerus. Jiren is stronger than Beerus. Vegito (post tournament) would be angel level or higher.
Whis~Vegito>MUI>Jiren>Beerus
@@Xzei oh fuck db is so going to die out.
SSJB or SSJG Vegito could DESTROY both Weiss and Beerus
Yeah even Super Vegito could destroy "Weiss" (Weiss/Weiß ist the German name for the color/colour White)
Every technique other than rending the dimension... that is. That move had Vegito worried.
You should do gogeta, fusion reborn and GT.
I love Vegito one of the best fusions ever and the strongest too
**cough** gogeta **cough**
@@rabbittherabbit *cough* he's inferior *cough*
gogeta>vegito if goku and vegeta are in ssb when they fuse he'll be infinitely stronger than ssb vegito since goku and vegeta can only be in base when they use the potara fusion so
Gogeta>vegito especially ssj4
lol but vegitos time limit was reduced from 1 hour to 7 minutes while he was blue and gogeta ssj4 was reduced from 30 minutes to 10 minutes also gogeta cant go super saiyan blue cuz he will instantly defuse so HA!
vegitos already been stated to be stronger than gogeta. so you're wrong
Ssj4 Goku nah
Logan Peterson if their both in base then gogeta would be weaker but if they go ssb and then fuse gogeta will be immensely more powerful than ssb vegito
Ssj4 Goku read what I wrote then you'll see.......just no
just imagine him now
It would be cool if the multiverse tournament gets SSJ4s out of nowhere.
As if GT was Universe 5 or something the entire time.
Awesome video and start of great series