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A plumber show’s up at your house and installs one of these valves. Charges you 275.00 to 300.00 because he has to make a profit. Then his labor on top of that. Most people including yourself would just freak out. Here you are in 500.00 dollars and the real problem isn’t even looked at yet. The plumber has just got the water turned off. Now he has to fix the problem!
This blew me away. Amazing product. Then I heard the price. Yikes! I guess it's more of an emergency use product to avoid huge jobs and unique problems. I was hoping it would be more like $40.
Yeah but there reference point for most people here is DIY. Call for help, hahaha. Just kidding. Personally, I'm happy my water is easy to shut off to do whatever I want to do. @@Failure_Is_An_Option
I agree the price is ridiculously high. If it were about 60% less it would be perfect for a lot of jobs, but I'm not buying one at this price just to keep it on a shelf for a just-in-case scenario.
Awesome product, albeit very pricey. But I really appreciate that you are so concise in your narrative. So many You tubers spend 5 minutes telling us why they made the video. Your whole vid was less than 5 minutes and gave us all the information we need. Thank you!
This New Valve is Just what the DR. ordered,, Yes not cheap, but wow what a life saver, if you need it !!! The price should come down in time I hope !!!
@@waterturtle2919I've always used dry ice to dam the pipe while replacing the valve. I've also got tapped Oil Pipelines with similar products to the OP.
the copper gets pushed into the reservoir at the back of the aladin system, bot that & the internalcutter get pushed into that when you push the top in.
@@richardbowles8783 What are you talking about? As of today, this single 1/2" valve is $300. You can get a Shark Bite valve for under $25, and have it changed out in 30 min. Well, maybe not you...
@@richardbowles8783 Other products would require water to be sprayed out. Things like Sharkbites, Pro Clamp fitting/Press fittings.. Granted it would work but you will have a few seconds of full pressure blowing out of that pipe... Have some towels and a shop vac ready Only thing that concerns me with this design is where does the copper you are drilling out go? Its got to go some place.
Do you really have dents in your copper pipes??? You do know that water rushing past a dent in your pipes will sooner or later wear a hole through copper pipes ???
@@bigmacdaddy1234should see my house I'm in the process of replacement soon with PEX because it's was such a shit show of a job in this old house I'm scared to leave it as is for much longer lol
Even if the products you highlight may never be used by me, it is always so interesting to see the new technology you are always willing to test and show. That shutoff is certainly very cool.
100% agree, I am pleased that you get everything in the kit, and should have mentioned its all stainless steel and brass too. If it was $99 they would sell a million a week, who knows maybe once it gets going the price will come down.
Agreed it's cheaper than calling a plumber, but it's also way too expensive to have laying around as a just in case. It falls into the diy category where you need a shut off valve but don't have the skill/tools to install one the normal way, and don't want to call a plumber. It's a neat niche product.
These tapping solutions have been available in Germany for gas and water pipes for decades. Every new gas branch on the main pipeline in the street is installed in this way.
Thanks for your comment, a tapping installs an isolatable branch unlike the Easyfit which installs an isolator into the main pipeline. The EasyFit is a unique patented product which was designed in the UK and has been sold for just over 10 years.
Hot-tapping in a main line is only adding a branch; this adds a block valve in said main line. Sure, part of the process is similar, but the end goal is completely different. @@julianreverse
Very sweet solution. Almost sold me but that white plastic cap and the price is what makes me pass. I can imagine the plastic cracking over time, especially if used outdoors.
Amazing! I could have used a few of these over past couple years, where I’ve had to install shut off valves for areas with no access. Literally they must have put the valves in first and then built the tub etc around it. Thanks for this and im buying a set of these today!
A set? In an emergency, I'd be shutting off the water at the source, or where I've got valves in series in place. Plus I've got emergency set ups for leaks/broken pipes. Not waiting for the flood before I start building lifeboats. Best wishes & Best of luck.
This company makes some truly brilliant products. I’ve installed their self bleeding radiator valves throughout my home. Not cheap but no mess and such a lot of time saved.
Thanks for your comment, due to the valve’s unique design the pipe coupon and the majority of the swarf is captured in the lower housing in the special chamber at its rear.
Holy chrome this is good stuff. Can't count how many times I've had to do work on pressurized water systems because the main valve was missing, inaccessible or just failed. I'd love to test this to its fail limits.
I've used two of these in our farmhouse. I didn't know at the time that the max pressure for install is 3 bar, but I found out afterwards that we're getting 6 bar into our farm!! Credit to Aladin for such an easy to use, and well made product.
3 bar dynamic pressure v.s. 16 bar static. To me it looks like it's more a question of the pressure differential over the valve while installing it. So turn off the water flow while installing. If you already have a water leak it's too late.
What about the shavings/copper fragments fouling up downstream valve assemblies? How about the remaining integrity of the pipe? Hot taps in water mains are not the same size as the main itself.
interesting concept but i think while your cutting the hole in the piepe, not all cut parts will be pressed into the bottom part. since we are talking about a pressured pipe with still water running, it will still carrry metals chips from the pipe itself through your pipe system. and if that is good is a whole other thing, of course filter etc. exist but still. dont know if you guys ever saw a milling, drilling or lathe but there isnt just a round plate pressed out but the ring where the valve system cuts will cut into small pieces which will now have a field day in those pipes. just my two cents though
Thanks for your comment, due to the valve’s unique design the pipe coupon and the majority of the swarf is captured in the lower housing in the special chamber at its rear. It is always a good idea to flush pipes after fitting any valve to a system.
That's wicked clever. Used something similar to hook into water mains for new construction when I worked as an excavator(a long time ago in my case, so there may be newer tech for that too). Seems like something to keep handy in older houses where they were stingy on valves, or the main shutoff doesn't quite close all the way (don't ask how I know this, haha).
Video was done right. I like the way you explained that it's just good to know in the back of your head that this exists and probably only good for when you're in a bad or unusual jam.
I’ve been plumbing for over 50 years. I’ve never come across a strange unusual situation. That I can’t fix in a normal way. Solder or crimp on. Which I don’t care for the crimp on either. Rubber o rings fail sooner or later..
@@ltsgarage7898 I can think of one. The main shut off valve for my house at the curb is bad, frozen and damaged. I could use this to put behind the main inside the house before the meter. The valve at the meter is about 75 years old and it scares me every time it has to be turned off and on.
@@joeshmoe7789 that’s called “deferred maintenance” When you are having no problems is when you get a new valve installed under your house. I’m figuring that you live back east somewhere . I’m in California and I replaced main shutoffs all the time. Fix or replace it before you need it in an emergency.
@@ltsgarage7898 It's 42" deep near 50-60 year old maple tree with large, thick roots. But I was only giving an example of a use or situation for valve fix.
A question and a comment: Q: As their tool/bit drills into the pipe, what happens to the the existing copper? Are any copper bits/shavings generated? If so, what happens to them? I'd imaging some copper shavings would be generated, and if one has filters (or an irrigation system) downstream, that the shavings would clog up what ever is downstream. C: That price though... ouch! And $250 is just for the 1/2" version. The 3/4" version is $350 and the 1" version is $450. An extra $100 for each additional 1/4" seems a bit excessive and a bit price gouging to me.
@@brothermine2292 yea, but are any shavings produced? I suspect the drilling process generates copper shavings, and (maybe?) potentially clog up a filter downstream.
@@jeffb5798 - the company’s UK website has an animation of how it works. The cutter (which resembles a hole saw) is specially engineered to shave the copper in large pieces that stay contained within the cutting cup. The cup (the hole saw) and the shavings are driven into the well where they will remain, permanently.
I used these in a condo where multiple units shared a common shutoff (and didn't want to shutoff).. Works well, but you have to make sure to get the slug otherwise it may end up clogging something downline. Also copper shavings can end up downline as well.
Because you mentioned the price in the video instead of just saying it's "competitively-priced" and "extremely cost-effective!" I'm still filing this away in the event I happen to need it. Listening to a half-hour pitch only to Google the product and find out the price is totally insane is one thing, but this was a very concise and well-made video which was honest about pricing being a liiiiiittle high for the average consumer. But the engineering is genius and I greatly respect the presentation.
That's not bad if you need to make an emergency repair on a live branch without any downtime. Perhaps changing a prv or something in a high rise. Scheduling a shutdown in a week to replace a hot water tank would suck
All iv'e got to say is HELL YEAH, I have no experience with plumbing, nor interest, yet it feels like a very reasonable thing to be doing with my time here on earth, watching a valve video. Welcome to the future boys we're living it up
Thanks for your comment, due to the valve’s unique design the pipe coupon and the majority of the swarf is captured in the lower housing in the special chamber at its rear.
I like the fact there are amazing people that think of these solutions and bring them to the public. I will definitely keep this shut-off valve in mind for future projects.
@@gumby3057 Or buying a ball valve, a cheap twist copper pipe cutter, and shutting your water main off for... lets see, around $50? Unless where you live literally doesn't have a water shutoff anywhere for where you want the valve? This really is terrible value. This valve really is made for someone who really has no other option.
Cool, the city here is upgrading our main water lines under the streets to a larger size and installing new hydrants, and I noticed the installation crew has been doing most of their work with the lines pressurized, I assume so they can check for leaks as they cut out a section of concrete, install the new piece of line, then pour new concrete as they work their way down and around the neighborhoods. It appears they added a lot of new valves too, but I am not sure why, but I figure it has something to do with the technique of replacing whole neighborhoods of pipe with the pressure still on.
They work with pressurized lines because turning off water mains creates more problems than it solves - e.g. buildings/homes draining & backflowing into the main
@@Justin-C I can certainly see that being a problem. These guys were reburying the pipe and pouring concrete as they were going, I just figured it was real important to confirm there were no leaks before they went through all that trouble.
Here in France you can buy this pro version (fits 15mm & 1/2 inch pipes) for about €95, a tad over $100. The ordinary version which only fits 15mm pipes costs about 77€, approx $83.
Hi, unfortunately the European version will not work on US pipes. Our pipes are harder, thicker and a slightly different size hence the difference in price.
This is a very effective and rapid problem solver for sure, but in a non-emergency situation , it might be more cost-effective to purchase a water meter key wrench and then install your own conventional shut-off valve.
Thanks for your comment, due to the valve’s unique design the pipe coupon and the majority of the swarf is captured in the lower housing in the special chamber at its rear.
I noticed you have a cycle stop valve setup, would love a video on it. Think it would be helpful for anyone with a pump or anyone looking to replace their pressure tank.
Thanks for your comment, due to the valve’s unique design the pipe coupon and the majority of the swarf is captured in the lower housing in the special chamber at its rear.
Great video! Cool product, works great, but not sure it's feasible for that price tag. Professionals can just use a freeze kit, homeowners can buy a single use freeze kit, and due to the price tag, local supply houses are likely not going to be stocking it on the shelf for emergency repairs anyway.
Can't freeze it when you're working on a heated water loop that's treated with glycol and you can't stop the flow or turn off the boiler. Had that happen to me today so I'll be grabbing a couple. We used an entire tank of CO2 and got nowhere.
Wow… That is a great tool to have in your toolbox.. As you say it is pricey but… It could save your butt if it is needed. Thank you for sharing with us.. You always have very interesting and informative videos.. PS… Glad you left ( can’t even bring myself to type it) and moved to NH… 😁 As always stay safe and always be kind. Go 603 Cheers
It’s on loin o save your butt if you have prepared and have it on hand. That price is just a bit high to keep a variety available for the average homeowner.
That is ingenious! Yes, expensive, but like you said, if need it quickly or if there seems to be no better option, this would be great. Thanks for sharing! 👍
It is expensive, even compared with paying a plumber. I don't know where you are, but where I live you, can do that job for less than $350. In our condo, we have a licensed plumber who charges $200 - 250 for installing a shut off valve (including the valve)
@@dw2295 The US version of the valve has been re-engineered because copper tubing is much more dense here compared to the UK versions. As a result UK valves will not work on US copper piping. As a result there is a difference in pricing between the UK and US versions. Hopefully, once this valve becomes more popular in the USA we can re-evaluate pricing.
The water pressure where I live is really high. It can get up to 105 psi over night. This would be great to keep on hand especially during the winter. The pipes and valves in my neighborhood are over 100 years old. Cold drafty basements = frozen pipes. Sometimes the old valves are stuck open and can't shut off the water. Thank you for sharing this product. I will look for it at my local plumbing supply houses.
That's a very neat product. I moved from a high rise condo community that didn't have water shutoff valves in each unit. The association had a fee and required at least a 10-day notice for the maintenance team to shut off water for the tier of units. They did emergency shutoffs too, but the fee was even higher. I would expect installing an Isolator Valve to require board approval though, but it would make life easier for owners/residents and staff.
A lot of utility companies use these kind of valves to establish new connections on pressurized lines. The craziest I’ve seen is on a natural gas install.
Plumber quoted $500 to install a new main shut off value for me. It's $300 on Amazon right now and I would rather pay the $500 and have it done by a professional. BUT I can see many DIY'ers using this - This was a very interesting video!! Thanks.
@@TruthbeforeTrustIt would be, I'll be sure to check, the plummer we use is pretty old (experienced), so I bet we would say to never use these. He won't use a sharkbite, it's still solder and a blow torch!
I worked for the water department in the city where I lived. We often tapped into the main lines to provide new water service. This valve is very similar to how we tapped into the water mains. Only ours was on a much larger scale.
Having worked in building maintenance, chillers and hydronic systems for decades, it's hard to imagine a situation where I would be forced to use such a expensive valve.
This is incredible. I had no idea this existed. It would have been super handy when I had a frost free hydrant leaking in the middle of winter and the ball valve in the plumbing maintenance hatch broke.
I was interested since I really would like to replace my gate valve shutoff with a ball valve, but the price might actually be more than what I'd have to pay a plumber in this area. I can definitely see its value for emergency applications though, especially since it can be installed on pressured lines.
@@bobrobertsony9977 I guess I never really considered the idea of leaving the old one in place. I mean, I don't _know_ that it would have any problems closing all the way, but it might be worth it just to make sure considering its locations... right beside the switch box.
Thanks for your comment, due to the valve’s unique design the pipe coupon and swarf is captured in the lower housing in the special chamber at its rear.
Nice presentation/demonstration. I'm not sure I'd use it due to the cost, and the fact that usually you can turn off the water, but it's an impressive bit of engineering. Thanks for posting.
@fartpooboxohyeah8611 absolutely right. And if you needed to turn it off urgently you may as well just turn it off at the mains valve and then fit your own flood valve. They’re about £5 a pair in the U.K.
Very interesting. When waiting for a welder being finishing his weld ( i am a weld inspector/ndt), a special crew came to a spot nearby ( 10 meters) and they did this but on a big scale. It was on a live steam pipe at the Tata Steel steel plant here in the Netherlands. It was like this valve but very big. The pipe diameter was about a meter or 40". Production is non-stop on such a plant so this special company came to make a valve there (hot-tap). It did not go as fast as this small valve in this vid.
I really like this channel. I dig stuff like this. Such a good idea. I’m a little surprised this channel is not over 1 million subscribers…I’m gonna do my part by a like and comment on every video :) As always, well done Sir!!
That's great to hear, before I made the video and I see great reviews for the original UK versions that have now been around for a decade. I am excited to see them here.
We hired a guy to do a live tap in a either 8-12 inch water line for a hospital (can't remember the exact size) and the drilling set up took two people to help hold up (me and him). It was pretty badass to see done and they definitely make a lot of money for these type of jobs. He only had to tap into two lines. He also said that the drill he had was given to him from his granddad who I guess he learned from. Just wish he had brought a helper with him that day.
Crazy man, I'm a plumber and this is the first time I have heard of this valve. I use to work in a large city but moved from it to a little village in the 90s. Very interesting.
Just when I was ready to order a couple of these you mentioned it's cost! 😅😂 I'll just call a plumber. Pretty sure I can get two valves installed for less than $500.00. 🎉
Mate I used to do a bit of plumbing with my father way back in the 60's and we really could have done with something like this calve way back then but there again we worked in the days of cat iron baths, downpipes, gutters, soil pipes, and compression fittings nothing like the plastic revolution of today!!
Seems a good way to send a bunch of copper particles downstream. I could see using this only in the most dire of emergencies. Like a train, a bunch of techs how to use it and give them each a sad like TV installers and such.
Thanks for your comment, due to the valve’s unique design the pipe coupon and swarf is captured in the lower housing in the special chamber at its rear.
Everyone's concerned with the price, but in the commercial/industrial world, it costs dramatically more to shut down for a repair. I can't think of a customer that would absorb the costs of a shut down and loss of plant operability over a $250 valve. Using a pipe freeze kit costs about 5x this.
Be careful, I got a lot of comments on the cheap Wagos which have ended really badly. I don't mind copy cat tools, since you use them and put them away but name brand fittings, etc are a good thing. This is a really specific use valve but I am told UK plumbers keep them on the trucks for emergencies and tough installs where main valve access is impossible
Thanks for your comment, due to the valve’s unique design the pipe coupon and the majority of the swarf is captured in the lower housing in the special chamber at its rear.
Thanks for your comment, due to the valve’s unique design the pipe coupon and the majority of the swarf is captured in the lower housing in the special chamber at its rear.
This sells for less than £60-think it is a very useful device to have just in case the main stop tap cannot be located or the interior stop tap breaks I’ve often wondered what one would do in those circumstances. Thank you for sharing
Thanks for your comment, due to the valve’s unique design the pipe coupon and the majority of the swarf is captured in the lower housing in the special chamber at its rear.
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Pfft ! you kidding? Two plumbers are cheaper than a plumber!
he's your friend huh?@RichieWellock
Cheaper than a plumber? With SharkBite fittings, everyone's a plumber!!
A plumber show’s up at your house and installs one of these valves. Charges you 275.00 to 300.00 because he has to make a profit. Then his labor on top of that. Most people including yourself would just freak out. Here you are in 500.00 dollars and the real problem isn’t even looked at yet. The plumber has just got the water turned off. Now he has to fix the problem!
This is way beyond expensive.
This blew me away. Amazing product. Then I heard the price. Yikes! I guess it's more of an emergency use product to avoid huge jobs and unique problems. I was hoping it would be more like $40.
Yeah same here. Guess I'll just stick to my sharkbite ball valve for emergencies
You are going to pay more than that for a plumber...
Yeah but there reference point for most people here is DIY. Call for help, hahaha. Just kidding. Personally, I'm happy my water is easy to shut off to do whatever I want to do. @@Failure_Is_An_Option
I agree the price is ridiculously high. If it were about 60% less it would be perfect for a lot of jobs, but I'm not buying one at this price just to keep it on a shelf for a just-in-case scenario.
These are only £50 / $65 here in the UK
Awesome product, albeit very pricey. But I really appreciate that you are so concise in your narrative. So many You tubers spend 5 minutes telling us why they made the video. Your whole vid was less than 5 minutes and gave us all the information we need. Thank you!
At this price point, just buy a pipe freezer. Costs less than 4 of those valves.
You weren't kidding $450 for one. I could just pay a plumber to replace it and it would be cheaper.
This New Valve is Just what the DR. ordered,, Yes not cheap, but wow what a life saver, if you need it !!! The price should come down in time I hope !!!
@@waterturtle2919I've always used dry ice to dam the pipe while replacing the valve. I've also got tapped Oil Pipelines with similar products to the OP.
This is a smaller version of how they do taps for street hook ups. Thank you for answering the question were does the copper go.
Yea where does the copper knock out go !!!! Ditto !!!
@@rogerhegemier8491It gets stuck in the pipe on a holiday weekend about midnight!!🤣
the copper gets pushed into the reservoir at the back of the aladin system, bot that & the internalcutter get pushed into that when you push the top in.
A long gone old 4th generation prairie farmer had a saying for this..
"You're paying for what it DOES, you're not paying for what it is."
You're paying for something you can do far more inexpensively, and almost as easily, with other products.
@@jim6690 A year ago, more expensive, perhaps. Four months ago, more easily, perhaps. Post your "other products" suggestions. Otherwise....
@@richardbowles8783 What are you talking about? As of today, this single 1/2" valve is $300. You can get a Shark Bite valve for under $25, and have it changed out in 30 min. Well, maybe not you...
@@richardbowles8783
Other products would require water to be sprayed out.
Things like Sharkbites, Pro Clamp fitting/Press fittings..
Granted it would work but you will have a few seconds of full pressure blowing out of that pipe... Have some towels and a shop vac ready
Only thing that concerns me with this design is where does the copper you are drilling out go? Its got to go some place.
NOTE: your pipes have to be completely dent free where the seals go. Just a tip 👍🏻
Thats something he mentioned
Do you really have dents in your copper pipes???
You do know that water rushing past a dent in your pipes will sooner or later wear a hole through copper pipes ???
@@bigmacdaddy1234 seriously?
@@bigmacdaddy1234should see my house I'm in the process of replacement soon with PEX because it's was such a shit show of a job in this old house I'm scared to leave it as is for much longer lol
@@ltsgarage7898 That's obviously untrue given that this doesn't happen with crimp seal pipe fittings.
Even if the products you highlight may never be used by me, it is always so interesting to see the new technology you are always willing to test and show. That shutoff is certainly very cool.
Actually shark-bite is the new technology and it renders this valve useless for it's price.
@@bumbarabun I did not know shark bite has a product that can be installed on a live pipe.
Indeed that is very expensive, but for what it is/does, it is pretty amazing!
100% agree, I am pleased that you get everything in the kit, and should have mentioned its all stainless steel and brass too. If it was $99 they would sell a million a week, who knows maybe once it gets going the price will come down.
Not as expensive as calling a plumber
@@BaconJD420but vastly more expensive than pushing on a SharkBite.
Cheaper than a plumber in the middle of the night on a holiday. 🤷🏻♂️
Agreed it's cheaper than calling a plumber, but it's also way too expensive to have laying around as a just in case. It falls into the diy category where you need a shut off valve but don't have the skill/tools to install one the normal way, and don't want to call a plumber. It's a neat niche product.
These tapping solutions have been available in Germany for gas and water pipes for decades. Every new gas branch on the main pipeline in the street is installed in this way.
Thanks for your comment, a tapping installs an isolatable branch unlike the Easyfit which installs an isolator into the main pipeline. The EasyFit is a unique patented product which was designed in the UK and has been sold for just over 10 years.
That's not the same thing at all. It's amazing how many people actually don't understand what this valve actually does...
@@derekblanchard9159 It is the exact same thing.
Hot-tapping in a main line is only adding a branch; this adds a block valve in said main line. Sure, part of the process is similar, but the end goal is completely different. @@julianreverse
@@derekblanchard9159 Every single branch has a valve.
Normaly use the freeze claws to create a frozen plugg but if you cant rent or borrow one this should do the work
Very sweet solution. Almost sold me but that white plastic cap and the price is what makes me pass. I can imagine the plastic cracking over time, especially if used outdoors.
The cap is made of Nylon, ok, still plastic but really tough.
Fitted a 22mm one. My drill died trying to fit it.
Yeppp me too Plastic is a NO NO !!! About 2 years out in the weather C R A C K !!! Than try to get your $ back !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Amazing! I could have used a few of these over past couple years, where I’ve had to install shut off valves for areas with no access. Literally they must have put the valves in first and then built the tub etc around it. Thanks for this and im buying a set of these today!
In which case turn the water off from the meter
A set? In an emergency, I'd be shutting off the water at the source, or where I've got valves in series in place. Plus I've got emergency set ups for leaks/broken pipes. Not waiting for the flood before I start building lifeboats. Best wishes & Best of luck.
And to think I used to do hot taps on 3" copper lines ,than had to weld them in place !!! Back in the 70s that was a big break through !!!
This company makes some truly brilliant products. I’ve installed their self bleeding radiator valves throughout my home. Not cheap but no mess and such a lot of time saved.
This video made my day. I have been putting off cutting through air ducts to access a electronic water valve since it seized. Thank you for sharing.
What about the copper hole cut out and shavings? What stops them from entering the line?
nothing 🤣
Thanks for your comment, due to the valve’s unique design the pipe coupon and the majority of the swarf is captured in the lower housing in the special chamber at its rear.
Holy chrome this is good stuff. Can't count how many times I've had to do work on pressurized water systems because the main valve was missing, inaccessible or just failed. I'd love to test this to its fail limits.
Water flow can be interrupted for repairs in copper pipes with a water freeze device
I've used two of these in our farmhouse. I didn't know at the time that the max pressure for install is 3 bar, but I found out afterwards that we're getting 6 bar into our farm!! Credit to Aladin for such an easy to use, and well made product.
16 bar for uk 22m version
3 bar dynamic pressure v.s. 16 bar static. To me it looks like it's more a question of the pressure differential over the valve while installing it. So turn off the water flow while installing. If you already have a water leak it's too late.
I'm always looking to learn something new. Can you please explain 3 bar 6 bar' me, thank you.
@@sparky6913 a bar is equivalent to 15psi approximately....
*Aladdin
What about the shavings/copper fragments fouling up downstream valve assemblies? How about the remaining integrity of the pipe? Hot taps in water mains are not the same size as the main itself.
interesting concept but i think while your cutting the hole in the piepe, not all cut parts will be pressed into the bottom part.
since we are talking about a pressured pipe with still water running, it will still carrry metals chips from the pipe itself through your pipe system.
and if that is good is a whole other thing, of course filter etc. exist but still.
dont know if you guys ever saw a milling, drilling or lathe but there isnt just a round plate pressed out but the ring where the valve system cuts will cut into small pieces which will now have a field day in those pipes.
just my two cents though
Thanks for your comment, due to the valve’s unique design the pipe coupon and the majority of the swarf is captured in the lower housing in the special chamber at its rear. It is always a good idea to flush pipes after fitting any valve to a system.
That's wicked clever. Used something similar to hook into water mains for new construction when I worked as an excavator(a long time ago in my case, so there may be newer tech for that too). Seems like something to keep handy in older houses where they were stingy on valves, or the main shutoff doesn't quite close all the way (don't ask how I know this, haha).
At $250 per valve, this is hardly something you just "keep handy"
older houses may have galvanized pipe though, not sure if this will work.
@@abc123fhdi Unfortunately, the valve only works on Copper Tubing (K, L, or M) and PEX. It does not work on galvanized pipe.
Awesome, didn't know this thing existed until now. Very nice option for the examples you gave. Thanks!!
WOW what a miracle product. Thanks for showing what it does. I was wondering about where the cut copper goes. Kudos
Nice video but what happens to the swarf when the hole is cut into the pipe?
Video was done right. I like the way you explained that it's just good to know in the back of your head that this exists and probably only good for when you're in a bad or unusual jam.
Yeah, this is great. Probably not daily use but definitely worth knowing that it exists for the *one* time it will be necessary and perfect.
I’ve been plumbing for over 50 years. I’ve never come across a strange unusual situation.
That I can’t fix in a normal way. Solder or crimp on. Which I don’t care for the crimp on either. Rubber o rings fail sooner or later..
@@ltsgarage7898 I can think of one. The main shut off valve for my house at the curb is bad, frozen and damaged. I could use this to put behind the main inside the house before the meter. The valve at the meter is about 75 years old and it scares me every time it has to be turned off and on.
@@joeshmoe7789 that’s called “deferred maintenance”
When you are having no problems is when you get a new valve installed under your house. I’m figuring that you live back east somewhere . I’m in California and I replaced main shutoffs all the time.
Fix or replace it before you need it in an emergency.
@@ltsgarage7898 It's 42" deep near 50-60 year old maple tree with large, thick roots. But I was only giving an example of a use or situation for valve fix.
A question and a comment:
Q: As their tool/bit drills into the pipe, what happens to the the existing copper? Are any copper bits/shavings generated? If so, what happens to them? I'd imaging some copper shavings would be generated, and if one has filters (or an irrigation system) downstream, that the shavings would clog up what ever is downstream.
C: That price though... ouch! And $250 is just for the 1/2" version. The 3/4" version is $350 and the 1" version is $450. An extra $100 for each additional 1/4" seems a bit excessive and a bit price gouging to me.
Near the end of the video, it's explained that the "drilled" copper gets pushed to the bottom section of the valve, out of the way.
@@brothermine2292 yea, but are any shavings produced? I suspect the drilling process generates copper shavings, and (maybe?) potentially clog up a filter downstream.
@@jeffb5798 : I know nothing about it beyond what the video tells us. But aren't filters designed to be readily accessible?
@@jeffb5798 - the company’s UK website has an animation of how it works. The cutter (which resembles a hole saw) is specially engineered to shave the copper in large pieces that stay contained within the cutting cup. The cup (the hole saw) and the shavings are driven into the well where they will remain, permanently.
@@tombodette6457Not likely. Sure the cut copper goes down but the shavings will be forced down the line.
$250 is still cheaper than a plumber
very elegant system. Not difficult to understand but difficult to conceive.
I used these in a condo where multiple units shared a common shutoff (and didn't want to shutoff).. Works well, but you have to make sure to get the slug otherwise it may end up clogging something downline. Also copper shavings can end up downline as well.
Because you mentioned the price in the video instead of just saying it's "competitively-priced" and "extremely cost-effective!" I'm still filing this away in the event I happen to need it. Listening to a half-hour pitch only to Google the product and find out the price is totally insane is one thing, but this was a very concise and well-made video which was honest about pricing being a liiiiiittle high for the average consumer. But the engineering is genius and I greatly respect the presentation.
Now it's $300 for the half-inch version.
That's not bad if you need to make an emergency repair on a live branch without any downtime. Perhaps changing a prv or something in a high rise. Scheduling a shutdown in a week to replace a hot water tank would suck
where does the pieces of copper that you cut off go??
It goes into your piping and damages fixtures.
All iv'e got to say is HELL YEAH,
I have no experience with plumbing, nor interest, yet it feels like a very reasonable thing to be doing with my time here on earth, watching a valve video. Welcome to the future boys we're living it up
Do copper filings get into the outflow?
Thanks for your comment, due to the valve’s unique design the pipe coupon and the majority of the swarf is captured in the lower housing in the special chamber at its rear.
I like the fact there are amazing people that think of these solutions and bring them to the public.
I will definitely keep this shut-off valve in mind for future projects.
Yeah but amazing price isn't worth it.
@@foesseauau4178 Hmmm, let's see, $250 for that 1/2" ball valve or a plumber for about about $45/hr. Materials and plumber's crack included.
@@gumby3057 $250 is crazy when these are $60 in the UK (It is a UK manufacturer)
@@gumby3057 Or buying a ball valve, a cheap twist copper pipe cutter, and shutting your water main off for... lets see, around $50?
Unless where you live literally doesn't have a water shutoff anywhere for where you want the valve? This really is terrible value.
This valve really is made for someone who really has no other option.
Cool, the city here is upgrading our main water lines under the streets to a larger size and installing new hydrants, and I noticed the installation crew has been doing most of their work with the lines pressurized, I assume so they can check for leaks as they cut out a section of concrete, install the new piece of line, then pour new concrete as they work their way down and around the neighborhoods. It appears they added a lot of new valves too, but I am not sure why, but I figure it has something to do with the technique of replacing whole neighborhoods of pipe with the pressure still on.
They work with pressurized lines because turning off water mains creates more problems than it solves - e.g. buildings/homes draining & backflowing into the main
@@Justin-C I can certainly see that being a problem. These guys were reburying the pipe and pouring concrete as they were going, I just figured it was real important to confirm there were no leaks before they went through all that trouble.
Can now bypass the city water meter and save thousands on bills.
They will know and they come to inspect
This is amazing. Im going to have to add some of these to the van
Good to hear, thanks for your comment.
Where does the drill shavings go!
Could possibly get stuck in the pipe somewhere?
Thanks for your comment, the pipe coupon and swarf is captured in the lower housing in the special chamber at its rear.
Where does the pipe coupon go? The part of the pipe that was removed to make the hole?
Thanks for your comment, the coupon and swarf is captured in the lower housing in the special chamber at its rear.
Installed one a few months back. Saved my ass.
Here in France you can buy this pro version (fits 15mm & 1/2 inch pipes) for about €95, a tad over $100. The ordinary version which only fits 15mm pipes costs about 77€, approx $83.
seeing prices in other countries me thinks we in the US are getting taken??
Hi, unfortunately the European version will not work on US pipes. Our pipes are harder, thicker and a slightly different size hence the difference in price.
This is a very effective and rapid problem solver for sure, but in a non-emergency situation , it might be more cost-effective to purchase a water meter key wrench and then install your own conventional shut-off valve.
where does the metal pieces go from drilling the pipe?
Thanks for your comment, due to the valve’s unique design the pipe coupon and the majority of the swarf is captured in the lower housing in the special chamber at its rear.
I noticed you have a cycle stop valve setup, would love a video on it. Think it would be helpful for anyone with a pump or anyone looking to replace their pressure tank.
Totally agree. I’ve been researching the website and almost convinced I need one. If you did a video I’m sure that would solidify my decision 😁
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Egads.... Perfect solution, but that price!
Interesting concept how the cup part is pushed into the housing on the bottom. Be interesting to see how long it lasts.
Many years now, in the UK
What happens to all the copper bits created from the drilling?
Thanks for your comment, due to the valve’s unique design the pipe coupon and the majority of the swarf is captured in the lower housing in the special chamber at its rear.
What about the shards from the cut, wont they get into the water flow and clog other valves?🤔
Great video! Cool product, works great, but not sure it's feasible for that price tag. Professionals can just use a freeze kit, homeowners can buy a single use freeze kit, and due to the price tag, local supply houses are likely not going to be stocking it on the shelf for emergency repairs anyway.
Can't freeze it when you're working on a heated water loop that's treated with glycol and you can't stop the flow or turn off the boiler. Had that happen to me today so I'll be grabbing a couple. We used an entire tank of CO2 and got nowhere.
Wow… That is a great tool to have in your toolbox.. As you say it is pricey but… It could save your butt if it is needed.
Thank you for sharing with us..
You always have very interesting and informative videos..
PS… Glad you left ( can’t even bring myself to type it) and moved to NH… 😁
As always stay safe and always be kind.
Go 603
Cheers
It’s on loin o save your butt if you have prepared and have it on hand. That price is just a bit high to keep a variety available for the average homeowner.
That is ingenious! Yes, expensive, but like you said, if need it quickly or if there seems to be no better option, this would be great. Thanks for sharing! 👍
I agree with you. And I’m a big fan of your music.
@@AnthonyPicciano Exactly!
They sell in the UK for £55 - about $70!
It is expensive, even compared with paying a plumber. I don't know where you are, but where I live you, can do that job for less than $350. In our condo, we have a licensed plumber who charges $200 - 250 for installing a shut off valve (including the valve)
@@dw2295 The US version of the valve has been re-engineered because copper tubing is much more dense here compared to the UK versions. As a result UK valves will not work on US copper piping. As a result there is a difference in pricing between the UK and US versions. Hopefully, once this valve becomes more popular in the USA we can re-evaluate pricing.
Does it create copper filings that get pushed through the line? Is it sawed-through or is it a clean cut with a razor-like blade?
Thanks for your comment, minimal swarf is produced and the majority is trapped with the pipe coupon at the rear of the housing
The water pressure where I live is really high. It can get up to 105 psi over night. This would be great to keep on hand especially during the winter. The pipes and valves in my neighborhood are over 100 years old. Cold drafty basements = frozen pipes. Sometimes the old valves are stuck open and can't shut off the water. Thank you for sharing this product. I will look for it at my local plumbing supply houses.
Might be worth having one in the just in case box.
That's a very neat product. I moved from a high rise condo community that didn't have water shutoff valves in each unit. The association had a fee and required at least a 10-day notice for the maintenance team to shut off water for the tier of units. They did emergency shutoffs too, but the fee was even higher. I would expect installing an Isolator Valve to require board approval though, but it would make life easier for owners/residents and staff.
Why wouldn't they just spend a weekend or two and install water shutoff valves in each unit? Seems like a nobrainer.
@@spoofer20because then they can't collect fees whenever emergency leaks occur
ingenious. I've worked in wholesale plumbing and heating supplies since '84.
probably the most ingenious valve design I've seen.
Amazing To say the least!!!!!!!!!!
Everyone shocked at the price, wait till you find out what a plumber will charge for a live pipe lmao. It is what it is.
It's about 1/3 of the price here in UK so the price will go down over time as more people and distributors join
Why do our Brit friends put up with that? There are some good movies and books about the Am. Rev.
A lot of utility companies use these kind of valves to establish new connections on pressurized lines. The craziest I’ve seen is on a natural gas install.
Plumber quoted $500 to install a new main shut off value for me. It's $300 on Amazon right now and I would rather pay the $500 and have it done by a professional. BUT I can see many DIY'ers using this - This was a very interesting video!! Thanks.
Funny if he ended up just installing this.
@@TruthbeforeTrustIt would be, I'll be sure to check, the plummer we use is pretty old (experienced), so I bet we would say to never use these. He won't use a sharkbite, it's still solder and a blow torch!
Question? Where does the drilling pipe garbage go? These are copper shavings from drilling the pipe???
Im a plumber and for that price id sooner walk outside and turn the main off. Good product i say $50 would be a better deal.
around here a plumber will charge 90 just to visit, so if dyi it may break even
I worked for the water department in the city where I lived. We often tapped into the main lines to provide new water service. This valve is very similar to how we tapped into the water mains. Only ours was on a much larger scale.
Smart valve built by smart people .
Having worked in building maintenance, chillers and hydronic systems for decades, it's hard to imagine a situation where I would be forced to use such a expensive valve.
Having paid plumbers hundreds of dollars to do very little, this expensive valve is really cheap.
Many new technologies are creeping into the skilled trades service market... Good for the Consumer!
This is incredible. I had no idea this existed. It would have been super handy when I had a frost free hydrant leaking in the middle of winter and the ball valve in the plumbing maintenance hatch broke.
for $300, finding the water main and living without water for 30 minutes would've been way handier
I was interested since I really would like to replace my gate valve shutoff with a ball valve, but the price might actually be more than what I'd have to pay a plumber in this area. I can definitely see its value for emergency applications though, especially since it can be installed on pressured lines.
It is relatively easy to install a compression ball valve downstream of the gate valve.
@@bobrobertsony9977 I guess I never really considered the idea of leaving the old one in place. I mean, I don't _know_ that it would have any problems closing all the way, but it might be worth it just to make sure considering its locations... right beside the switch box.
Would there be any metal shavings that come off from this process? Im assuming you would just have to run the water for a bit to get anything out.
The coupon is trapped and sealed along with a majority of the swarf in the lower housing.
amazing invention!
Thanks
Isn´t it a problem you have some copper chuncks form the drilling in the live waterflow? It may damage some of the followig components or not?
Thanks for your comment, due to the valve’s unique design the pipe coupon and swarf is captured in the lower housing in the special chamber at its rear.
Nice presentation/demonstration. I'm not sure I'd use it due to the cost, and the fact that usually you can turn off the water, but it's an impressive bit of engineering. Thanks for posting.
I don’t think it’s intended for use where you can turn off the water…
Still way cheaper than calling a plumber! Excellent product 👍🏻
I'm confident I can get a plumber to install a shut-off valve for plenty less than $250 (Idaho). If you're in CA, might be a different story.
Copel valve assembly they work great when installed right😊
If the water couldn’t be shut off, the plumber would have to fit this before commencing work??
@fartpooboxohyeah8611 absolutely right. And if you needed to turn it off urgently you may as well just turn it off at the mains valve and then fit your own flood valve. They’re about £5 a pair in the U.K.
@fartpooboxohyeah8611 in LA or NY
Certainly good for when you can't shut off the water!
where does the piece of pipe that you cut out go? just sits in the pipe? kind of a flaw possibly. but that was badass
Thanks for your comment, the coupon and swarf is captured in the lower housing in the special chamber at its rear.
Very interesting. When waiting for a welder being finishing his weld ( i am a weld inspector/ndt), a special crew came to a spot nearby ( 10 meters) and they did this but on a big scale. It was on a live steam pipe at the Tata Steel steel plant here in the Netherlands. It was like this valve but very big. The pipe diameter was about a meter or 40". Production is non-stop on such a plant so this special company came to make a valve there (hot-tap). It did not go as fast as this small valve in this vid.
I really like this channel. I dig stuff like this. Such a good idea.
I’m a little surprised this channel is not over 1 million subscribers…I’m gonna do my part by a like and comment on every video :)
As always, well done Sir!!
Don't call him sir he works for a living just saying
They're worth every penny if you can afford one mate!
That's great to hear, before I made the video and I see great reviews for the original UK versions that have now been around for a decade. I am excited to see them here.
Similar process on a larger scale for tapping and plugging for high pressure natural gas systems. Pretty cool! Thanks for sharing.
We hired a guy to do a live tap in a either 8-12 inch water line for a hospital (can't remember the exact size) and the drilling set up took two people to help hold up (me and him). It was pretty badass to see done and they definitely make a lot of money for these type of jobs. He only had to tap into two lines. He also said that the drill he had was given to him from his granddad who I guess he learned from. Just wish he had brought a helper with him that day.
What happens to the pieces of copper you made when cutting the hole?
Thanks for your comment, the pipe coupon and swarf is captured in the lower housing in the special chamber at its rear.
Crazy man, I'm a plumber and this is the first time I have heard of this valve. I use to work in a large city but moved from it to a little village in the 90s. Very interesting.
Just when I was ready to order a couple of these you mentioned it's cost!
😅😂 I'll just call a plumber. Pretty sure I can get two valves installed for less than $500.00. 🎉
Great option, I just rented a pipe freezer for $100 dollars to add a shut off onto a water heater feed with stripped valve.
People complaining about pricey are trippin. I'm a plumber. The valve is cheaper, I assure you.
Mate I used to do a bit of plumbing with my father way back in the 60's and we really could have done with something like this calve way back then but there again we worked in the days of cat iron baths, downpipes, gutters, soil pipes, and compression fittings nothing like the plastic revolution of today!!
Interesting, but where drill chips goes?
down the stream, where else
Seems a good way to send a bunch of copper particles downstream. I could see using this only in the most dire of emergencies. Like a train, a bunch of techs how to use it and give them each a sad like TV installers and such.
Thanks for your comment, due to the valve’s unique design the pipe coupon and swarf is captured in the lower housing in the special chamber at its rear.
Everyone's concerned with the price, but in the commercial/industrial world, it costs dramatically more to shut down for a repair. I can't think of a customer that would absorb the costs of a shut down and loss of plant operability over a $250 valve. Using a pipe freeze kit costs about 5x this.
coper shreds go deep inside the tubing ,very bad idea.
Where does the piece of copper go when you drill it out?
I did a follow up showing that and other questions: ruclips.net/video/rj6zKo_d49g/видео.html
What happens to the copper piece that gets cut does it stay lose in the pipe ?????????????
The coupon is trapped and sealed along with swarf in the lower housing
I'll wait for the $10 chinese knockoffs 🙄
Be careful, I got a lot of comments on the cheap Wagos which have ended really badly. I don't mind copy cat tools, since you use them and put them away but name brand fittings, etc are a good thing. This is a really specific use valve but I am told UK plumbers keep them on the trucks for emergencies and tough installs where main valve access is impossible
Good thing you didn’t say the price at the beginning of the video because I would have stopped watching. Smart move. But it is a great product.
What happens to the piece you cut out of the pipe? Where do the shavings go? I'm not ok with not knowing.
Thanks for your comment, the coupon and swarf is captured in the lower housing in the special chamber at its rear.
Where does the copper you cut actually go?
Thanks for your comment, due to the valve’s unique design the pipe coupon and the majority of the swarf is captured in the lower housing in the special chamber at its rear.
What happens to the piece of metal that was cut out?
Thanks for your comment, the coupon and swarf is captured in the lower housing in the special chamber at its rear.
Where does the copper go from the cut?
Does it get flushed out?
Thanks for your comment, due to the valve’s unique design the pipe coupon and the majority of the swarf is captured in the lower housing in the special chamber at its rear.
@@easyfitisolatorusa thanks for the answer
What happens to the little piece of copper pipe that's been cut through so that the ball valve can go into the pipe
Where does the piece of copper it cuts through go?
This sells for less than £60-think it is a very useful device to have just in case the main stop tap cannot be located or the interior stop tap breaks
I’ve often wondered what one would do in those circumstances.
Thank you for sharing
where does the shredded copper go?
Thanks for your comment, due to the valve’s unique design the pipe coupon and the majority of the swarf is captured in the lower housing in the special chamber at its rear.
where did the copper shavings go? (from the cutting process) isn't that gonna clog the line somewhere like a faucet or a 90 down the line?
What happens to the piece of copper that's cut out