There was no RUclips back in the late 60's. So all the drummers in Trinidad played the hi hats with one hand. That is until the Meters came to town. I became a musician because of these guys
@ShrinkRaptor According to people who don’t want to be drowned out by the same style obnoxious “gospel chops” .. even if you can play fast etc it doesn’t mean it sounds good
David Gilmore certainly heard that...Mike Campbell too. A couple of Erics need to get it... Its not what. you do.... its when you do it. I love messin with the meter years after I gave up "reading music"
Good to see Zygaboo still with us. A big influence on my drumming. In the early seventies I played in a group from New York called Squeeze and Cissy Strut was our theme song. Met the Meters at Mylon Lefreve studio in Atlanta. Evangelist Roger Mansour former Leslie West Vagrants Drummer
Absolute genius here kids! Pay attention. I'm 58, have been playing for 45 yrs, and what Zig is doing here just opens up so many more options. Flavor? Yes, more please!
One of my favorite drummers. Amazing feel. He doesn't bother with the half swung 16th note on the kick after the 3 (e) that most get meticulous about when attempting to replicate the beat off the album. To him it's probably just something he played that day but it's mostly about the feel in general.
As great as all the technical videos out today are, this is exactly what I was looking for. Something true, honest, and real. Nothing contrived, and no ego. Real shit...
A wealth of drumming technique here especially watching the band at the end; the back beat also played on the hi-hat and the pause and action on the snare for the second part; and of course the funky bass drum mixing it with the bass lines. Funky as hell.
The absolute Funkiest Drummer on the planet, and probably the universe, too!!!! Love you Zigaboo! Love all of them funky Meters' from New Orleans who are all Funk Masters. No other Band funks the way the Meters do!!!
Much gratefulness for this incredibly generous, wise and humble artist! And thanks to Drum Channel for putting this one together, a must watch!! The "Cissy Strut" groove has stuck with me ever since I've heard it in a film soundtrack. It took me a long while to figure it out on my own, no RUclips at the time, and I thought hi-hat was played one-handed for years... It introduced me to a whole world of funk which I now consider my musical center as a drummer. I never could make it groove quite the same way, but it has definitely had a big impact on my overall playing, as I kept listening to the track over and over, going into those details of feel, accents, variations, history, etc. I eventually found a transcription (probably in Modern Drummer) and finally the man himself showing it here a few years back. This whole DVD is just amazing, especially fond of the round table with Don Lombardi interviewing a legendary panel: Joseph 'Zigaboo' Modeliste, Jonathan 'Sugarfoot' Moffet, James Gadson and Jim Keltner, mind-blowing this one!!! That Gadson quote, man that's deep: "Funky... I think everyone is funky, if they get to be heard... You know, I think that it's within the person when they give themselves. To me, that's being funky and people can relate to it." Damn... RUclips is great, but I sometimes wonder if I would have worked so long and hard on that groove, as I could only hear it and try to translate that to the kit, had I had been initiated with a tutorial on day one... I think the mystery of having no visual clues and just loving that sound so much, obsessing over it for years, taught me more than a video on its own ever could, about groove and personality.
Master class by a guru of feel. Early on he talked about favoring the use of two hand hi-hat patterns over one, and I tend to agree (in some situations, except in Keep Forgettin'/Jeff Porcaro, which is HARD but necessary to get the feel) because I've found I stumble on accidental two hand accents/feel differences especially when chopping up the 8ths or 16ths. Love this video!
11:10 usually this organ just sounds like garage. Like a dog just sat on the keys. This guy and these keys sound really nice on this studio version. Very clean.
Fantastic!! Was introduced to this from Dennis Chambers playing it and talking about it. So great to see this and people who inspired Dennis also. Thank you for your passion, your incredible grooves and your light in the drumming world. Keep groovin'! 👍🥁👍DC
I had a friend in Hawaii named Dave Allen. He used to play coronet in Mile's Davis recording sessions and out on the road. I played him some of the Meters music and he summed it up in a way that only a musician could. He said "This is very simple music, but in a complicated sort of way". Then he explained to me how they had about 4 or 5 different rhythms going in one song.., and of course Zigaboo led things. It's impossible to sit still listening to The Meters.
That explanation around 3:26 up to 5:26 and demonstrated is so well spoken at the jewel essence of this song. Thank you for this video gift and thanking Jesus for you...
That kit and they way it's been recorded is amazing. Aside from ZM's funky drumming I heard a lot of Adam Clayton of U2 fame in the way he plays and his drum sound.
I think I actually saw & heard Zigaboo, playing behind Dr. John. This was at a concert at Vanderbilt Univ., circa 1975. Dr. John was the "warm-up" act for The New Riders of the Purple Sage, believe it or not. I may be wrong, but I truly believe it was Zigaboo on drums. Played stuff I ain't never heard before. Concerts back then were such a "mix" of genres and styles back then. Anyway, I saw 2 great drummers that night: Zigaboo and Spencer Dryden (NRPS).
I'm so glad I found Cissy Strut. For me, it's funny because even though the guitarist wrote the song, the drums are the most important for me. It's also a classic bass line, but I'm just listening to the drums. A bit like Led Zeppelin, Page could write and sound engineer all he wants, but without Bonham on drums there's no band at all.
Good God, the groove on the recorded version is SO GREASY, it's like hanging out at Domilise's uptown with a roast beef po-boy, dressed, with debris gravy and a Dixie 45.
for those who watched the Fenichel lesson: zigaboo does not play the base note on the E of 3. Makes it a lot easier because no syncopation with the left hand on the HH.
its amusing to realise when you really pay attention to Zigaboo’s sticking, that even he drops the left hand grace note occasionally. It hardly matters to the ear though because the feel stays the same.
I think what he means is that it is impossible 4 zigaboo to not play funky because he is living the autonomic authentic natural funk life, from the crib.🥁🕺💃🏄
Love the meters but heres my problem. I just discovered them in 2024! I love Sly Stones music and its a shame FM stations didnt play this magic! I wonder how Steve Gadd would play this? Less is more with drumming in my humble opin. Same for guitar which Ive played since 64.
Mr. Zigaboo, First of all. Thanks for your contribution to music. I ‘m beginning to understand why I couldn’t figure it out with only playing the hi hat part with one hand. The groove that you play sounds between a 16th (broken groups of four) and shuffle (6 triplet 16th notes broken like Jeff Porcaro’s Rosanna). Am I right? Thanks 🙏🏼
Jack you bring up an important point about the feel, which is that it's played "in the cracks" between straight and swung. Applies to most Meters and New Orleans. Stanton Moore has good stuff on this for those interested, and demonstrates playing these Meters grooves straight (straight 16ths) and then swung (like Rossana, shuffle) and then right in the middle ("in the cracks"). That might help at what you're hearing. Play on...
@@stalliec thanks for the confirmation and the explanation of playing it “in the cracks”. I hear the same in Elvis Presley’s “Jailhouse Rock” or when a drummer plays a shuffle in a faster tempo but can’t keep it up anymore and than play the shuffle more straight towards eigth notes 😄 It has it’s charmes though.
IMO, what Modileste and other drummers did manually, on the kit, Dilla came after and did through sampling. Finding the organic subdivision that can't be evenly quantified and that's governed by sensibility instead of numbers.
Steve Jiordan playing this with John Mayer is the closest I've heard to the original; many have tried, but Jordan nailed it, and on a very minimal.kit.
Somewhere in the YTuniverse is an old clip of Steve Gadd playing this in a USAF big band. And it's pretty awesome. See if you can find it, I think you'll like it.
There was no RUclips back in the late 60's. So all the drummers in Trinidad played the hi hats with one hand. That is until the Meters came to town. I became a musician because of these guys
“More flavor from simplicity.”
There are lots of musicians who really need to hear that.
No kidding, todays musicians just want chops
@ShrinkRaptor
According to people who don’t want to be drowned out by the same style obnoxious “gospel chops” .. even if you can play fast etc it doesn’t mean it sounds good
David Gilmore certainly heard that...Mike Campbell too.
A couple of Erics need to get it...
Its not what. you do....
its when you do it.
I love messin with the meter years after I gave up "reading music"
@@garyssimo…A couple of Erics?
There are legendary grooves. Then theres Cissy Strut. This vid is important! Thanks for making this happen.
Thank you for explaining mr. Zigaboo Modeliste
And thank to the channel owner for publicing
Good to see Zygaboo still with us. A big influence on my drumming. In the early seventies I played in a group from New York called Squeeze and Cissy Strut was our theme song. Met the Meters at Mylon Lefreve studio in Atlanta.
Evangelist Roger Mansour former Leslie West Vagrants Drummer
Absolute genius here kids! Pay attention. I'm 58, have been playing for 45 yrs, and what Zig is doing here just opens up so many more options. Flavor? Yes, more please!
That snare pops!!!
His two handed-hat technique opens up so much more options and expressions - love it!
Yes, when people want to show how fast their one hand is it makes the beat sound choked
One of my favorite drummers. Amazing feel. He doesn't bother with the half swung 16th note on the kick after the 3 (e) that most get meticulous about when attempting to replicate the beat off the album. To him it's probably just something he played that day but it's mostly about the feel in general.
As great as all the technical videos out today are, this is exactly what I was looking for. Something true, honest, and real. Nothing contrived, and no ego. Real shit...
Jimmy Earl on bass baby! Modeliste is still so pocket!
A wealth of drumming technique here especially watching the band at the end; the back beat also played on the hi-hat and the pause and action on the snare for the second part; and of course the funky bass drum mixing it with the bass lines. Funky as hell.
His snare sound is unmatched...
5:28 yes Zigaboo show us how it’s done
The absolute Funkiest Drummer on the planet, and probably the universe, too!!!! Love you Zigaboo! Love all of them funky Meters' from New Orleans who are all Funk Masters. No other Band funks the way the Meters do!!!
I agree...and ive loved funk for 55 years now.
Much gratefulness for this incredibly generous, wise and humble artist! And thanks to Drum Channel for putting this one together, a must watch!!
The "Cissy Strut" groove has stuck with me ever since I've heard it in a film soundtrack. It took me a long while to figure it out on my own, no RUclips at the time, and I thought hi-hat was played one-handed for years... It introduced me to a whole world of funk which I now consider my musical center as a drummer.
I never could make it groove quite the same way, but it has definitely had a big impact on my overall playing, as I kept listening to the track over and over, going into those details of feel, accents, variations, history, etc. I eventually found a transcription (probably in Modern Drummer) and finally the man himself showing it here a few years back. This whole DVD is just amazing, especially fond of the round table with Don Lombardi interviewing a legendary panel: Joseph 'Zigaboo' Modeliste, Jonathan 'Sugarfoot' Moffet, James Gadson and Jim Keltner, mind-blowing this one!!!
That Gadson quote, man that's deep: "Funky... I think everyone is funky, if they get to be heard... You know, I think that it's within the person when they give themselves. To me, that's being funky and people can relate to it." Damn...
RUclips is great, but I sometimes wonder if I would have worked so long and hard on that groove, as I could only hear it and try to translate that to the kit, had I had been initiated with a tutorial on day one... I think the mystery of having no visual clues and just loving that sound so much, obsessing over it for years, taught me more than a video on its own ever could, about groove and personality.
Truth!
How it's done by the man who did it. Thanks for sharing this 👍
Thank you for explaining mr. Zigaboo Modeliste
And thank to the channel owner for publishing this video
Space and patience makes a great beat amazing. Zigaboo is a master!
So articulate and illuminating. Thank you Mr modeliste
That snare!!!!!!!!!
The Original King Of Funk, Hands Down.
You can’t get more greasy & funky
than Zigaboo!!!
Funk creator...God continued Blessing this man
The funkiest groove ever.
"more flavor out of simplicity" - that's a great way to put it
If we wolf down our food...we dont realy. taste. it.
Finally , the real deal from the man himself! Thank you DC
I know nothing about drumming … just what I like to hear, but now … I know a little something-and want to know MORE! Great video!
🥁 🍃👌🏽🍃🥁
American treasure! Zig rules! Thank you sir.
Zigaboo one of a kind!
Priceless. Especially for a novice like myself. Drums are amazing and a lot more complex than ppl realize. Man I love it. Thanks for the post.
This is unbelievably important. Thank you!
Hallelujah- been trying to figure this out for years- thank you Ziggy and Drum Channel!
GREAT DRUMMER
Wow! Finally seeing the master's sticking was a gift. THANKS!
Thanks for this great hi quality video.God bless you for this gift. This man is so well spoken and great at playing and explaining his drumming.
Love the way this guy plays...he influenced my style of playing
Master class by a guru of feel. Early on he talked about favoring the use of two hand hi-hat patterns over one, and I tend to agree (in some situations, except in Keep Forgettin'/Jeff Porcaro, which is HARD but necessary to get the feel) because I've found I stumble on accidental two hand accents/feel differences especially when chopping up the 8ths or 16ths. Love this video!
briliant. absolutely brilliant
THANK YOU for posting this!!
Super helpful! I haven't been able to figure out the pattern My gal's band does this (she's a bass player) and now I'm learning it. Thanks.
That’s awesome. It’s very cool to hear you talk about this.
Thank you so much for this video. Wonderful stuff. My all time hero, amazing to see my man break down the grooves and Hi Hat techniques.
FANTASTIC!
Legendary style.
I used to play it with one hand on the hats to... thanks for giving Zigaboo time to talk here
This was great!!! so cool to see him playing it on video - I was always confused by the sticking of the groove but now it makes more sense!!
Endless gratitudes to this funkiest of dudes
this feels freakin' fantastic, wow
You smooth my brother on that hi-hat
🥁 thank you for the quick little lesson
lovin this... what an inspirational legend of a great artsit and soul..
I love the Meters and Zigaboo. The best.
11:10 usually this organ just sounds like garage. Like a dog just sat on the keys. This guy and these keys sound really nice on this studio version. Very clean.
Fantastic!! Was introduced to this from Dennis Chambers playing it and talking about it. So great to see this and people who inspired Dennis also. Thank you for your passion, your incredible grooves and your light in the drumming world. Keep groovin'! 👍🥁👍DC
The king of the groove
Love that song ! You did a great job with the drums !
Thnk you so much, sooo helpful!!
Beautiful groove. The word syncopation comes to mind.
LEGEND
I think I just struck gold with this. This video is helping me learn to play this groove and I am so appreciative for it
Legendary Drummer
I had a friend in Hawaii named Dave Allen. He used to play coronet in Mile's Davis recording sessions and out on the road. I played him some of the Meters music and he summed it up in a way that only a musician could. He said "This is very simple music, but in a complicated sort of way". Then he explained to me how they had about 4 or 5 different rhythms going in one song.., and of course Zigaboo led things. It's impossible to sit still listening to The Meters.
That explanation around 3:26 up to 5:26 and demonstrated is so well spoken at the jewel essence of this song.
Thank you for this video gift and thanking Jesus for you...
that snare sounds incredible
That kit and they way it's been recorded is amazing. Aside from ZM's funky drumming I heard a lot of Adam Clayton of U2 fame in the way he plays and his drum sound.
I love playing the guitar part of this...even if its a clumsy stabb at it...but that groove keeps smiling and pointed in the right direction.
Zigaboo funk!
Seems like he's always playing with the time. Always sounds good and it always sounds natural. Not sure we'll ever really know the how of it.
the origin of the most funkiess sound eva!!!
Thanks
Reminds me how much I miss Yonrico Scott
RIP big man
I think I actually saw & heard Zigaboo, playing behind Dr. John. This was at a concert at Vanderbilt Univ., circa 1975. Dr. John was the "warm-up" act for The New Riders of the Purple Sage, believe it or not. I may be wrong, but I truly believe it was Zigaboo on drums. Played stuff I ain't never heard before. Concerts back then were such a "mix" of genres and styles back then. Anyway, I saw 2 great drummers that night: Zigaboo and Spencer Dryden (NRPS).
Lovely 👍
I'm so glad I found Cissy Strut. For me, it's funny because even though the guitarist wrote the song, the drums are the most important for me. It's also a classic bass line, but I'm just listening to the drums. A bit like Led Zeppelin, Page could write and sound engineer all he wants, but without Bonham on drums there's no band at all.
Legend
Good God, the groove on the recorded version is SO GREASY, it's like hanging out at Domilise's uptown with a roast beef po-boy, dressed, with debris gravy and a Dixie 45.
Like someone said about the recorded version, the pocket is so loose, it’s like it is in someone else’s pants...
UNIQUE
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for those who watched the Fenichel lesson: zigaboo does not play the base note on the E of 3. Makes it a lot easier because no syncopation with the left hand on the HH.
its amusing to realise when you really pay attention to Zigaboo’s sticking, that even he drops the left hand grace note occasionally. It hardly matters to the ear though because the feel stays the same.
nothing but truths here.
I like that
❤
Superb but where do i get that tshirt from
How can I buy one of the orange Zigaboo shirts like the one Zig is wearing?
Some human beings, like Mr. Modeliste, just can't NOT play it Funky!!!
@@drumcoachjack3507 they said can't not. double negative
@@drumcoachjack3507 i thought that you thought that the original commenter was saying it was negative feedback
@@FeltonHM I was. How it is written is strange and confusing.
@@drumcoachjack3507 ....are you okay?
I think what he means is that it is impossible 4 zigaboo to not play funky because he is living the autonomic authentic natural funk life, from the crib.🥁🕺💃🏄
That 10' TOM IS PISSING ME OFF!
dig
Any idea why he hols the left stick in read grip, and backwards, when explaining, but switches to match grip for the tune?
There are not many drummers who can get the Cissy Strut beat right!
The groove is like having a soft caramel stuck in the back teeth.
Love the meters but heres my problem. I just discovered them in 2024! I love Sly Stones music and its a shame FM stations didnt play this magic!
I wonder how Steve Gadd would play this? Less is more with drumming in my humble opin. Same for guitar which Ive played since 64.
Yeah, but what about the strong openings of the hats on the original recording???
05:32
Mr. Zigaboo, First of all. Thanks for your contribution to music. I ‘m beginning to understand why I couldn’t figure it out with only playing the hi hat part with one hand. The groove that you play sounds between a 16th (broken groups of four) and shuffle (6 triplet 16th notes broken like Jeff Porcaro’s Rosanna). Am I right? Thanks 🙏🏼
Jack you bring up an important point about the feel, which is that it's played "in the cracks" between straight and swung. Applies to most Meters and New Orleans. Stanton Moore has good stuff on this for those interested, and demonstrates playing these Meters grooves straight (straight 16ths) and then swung (like Rossana, shuffle) and then right in the middle ("in the cracks"). That might help at what you're hearing. Play on...
@@stalliec thanks for the confirmation and the explanation of playing it “in the cracks”. I hear the same in Elvis Presley’s “Jailhouse Rock” or when a drummer plays a shuffle in a faster tempo but can’t keep it up anymore and than play the shuffle more straight towards eigth notes 😄 It has it’s charmes though.
IMO, what Modileste and other drummers did manually, on the kit, Dilla came after and did through sampling. Finding the organic subdivision that can't be evenly quantified and that's governed by sensibility instead of numbers.
4:35
Shout out to Frasier Crane on bass
Steve Jiordan playing this with John Mayer is the closest I've heard to the original; many have tried, but Jordan nailed it, and on a very minimal.kit.
Somewhere in the YTuniverse is an old clip of Steve Gadd playing this in a USAF big band. And it's pretty awesome. See if you can find it, I think you'll like it.
is that garth hudson on the organ??