Leo's Loo Too vs Litter Robot 4
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- Опубликовано: 7 окт 2024
- This is easily the most in depth video I've made to date and boy is it full of information! Who knew that the $600+ cat box market would be so competitive! Today I'm putting the Litter Robot 4 by Whisker vs The Leo's Loo Too by Smarty Pear.
Appreciate the review! I've been a Litter Robot owner for the last 12-13 years. I've owned their LR2 bubble unit and their Open Air, which I personally upgraded the circuit board when they came out with the wifi and app. I've had the last unit, which was reconditioned when I bought it, for 6 years. The motor has never died on any of mine. The only reason I've upgraded mine as time has passed is a combination of new technology being available and they do need some maintenance over time after all the day in and out abuse they take (I have 4 cats). I just retired my OA this week when I received my LR4. I agree it's not perfect, but LR has never been perfect, nor do I believe a perfect litter box exists. LR works for my household though so I continue to stick with them. In terms of customer service, this is the first time I've ever seen them struggle in all my years as a customer so I'm chalking up to a new launch and the current employment climate. I did get a hold of a rep on the phone today after about 20 minutes so I'd say they're making strides in getting back on track. I did look at the Loo when I was considering upgrading but I know for our house the my one butt-raising peer would 100% not turn around and pee outside that small box. I'm also pretty sure one of my others prefers more open spaces so that would be a no for her too. I'll definitely be keeping my eye on Loo though and look forward to seeing what they bring to the table in the future. I believe competition is a good thing. We can't forget that LR is the OG, they paved the way for the products that exist today and they will always have my respect for that.
How did you get someone on the phone? I can’t find a working phone number anywhere!
Was the board upgrade a simple plug in? Wondering if I can do mine or if you can share any information about how thanks.
honestly, this is the best review out. and I like how factual and unbiased you are. thanks for this!!
Thank you!
This review is WILDLY helpful!! Thanks for taking the time to put this together.
Thank you!
Thanks for this comparison! It really opened my eyes to what features and functions should be most important in an electronic litter box. It also helped me understand what to expect from one and what not to expect. I nearly made the wrong choice but this video changed my mind right before I purchased. Thank you.
Thanks for the comment! I'm glad it helped!
Excellent review, thank you for creating this review. Sad to see the Leo's Loo Too is now up to $649 without the mat, $699 with the mat, would have been nice if it were still available at the lower price.
And they do not wash or flush the waste & not all homes have air conditioning throughout the home. I am trying to get far away from this repulsive task
How much did it use to be?
They have a promotion for $120 off though rn
This really helped me! The price tag on both definitely made me leery of buying either, but having such an in-depth look at both, plus the direct comparison, is a lot easier for me to figure out what I need.
i have been searching and searching for a video that touched on my biggest concern about getting a litterbox like this, and i finally found it! my cat has been known to use the litterbox facing away from the entrance & ends up urinating all over the floor outside. i’m so glad i came across your video because i was just about to place an order for the LR4, but i’ll be going with the leo’s loo too for this reason alone. the overall aesthetic + color options are a huge bonus for me too. thanks so much for making such a detailed comparison video- you may have just saved me hundreds of dollars and a lot of buyers remorse lol
I had and still have the LR1 as a backup for 7 years before getting and now have had the LR3 for another 7 years. My current cat is a huge 17 lbs and would not go into the LR1 because of its small opening and inside dimensions but the LR3 is just fine. There were no problems ever with the LR1, I wish they had just left it alone but for its size, no need for all the whistles and bells, because things can go wrong which they did with the LR3. It would stop in mid-cycle, still does sometimes and I have to unplug and then replug the unit, I had to replace a cable and something else which I cant remember, but with the help of video and written instructions I could do them myself. The more gadgets and electronics you attach the more can go wrong. Nevertheless, it is certainly better than having to scoop. Yes, the Leo's Loo Too is certainly less expensive than the LR4 and I don't need all the electronics both of them have, but I do wonder: where is the Leo's Loo manufactured? The LR is made in the US.
I’ve been researching automatic litter boxes for weeks and was leaning LLT.. thank you for this review! I hope it has longevity.
Thanks for the comment! I'm definitely hoping they are built to last also. But so far, so good!
Amazing review, after owning the Litter Robot 4 for 77 days and having nothing but problems we jumped ship and ordered Leos Loo! It arrived today set up was about 10 minutes and the cats seem to like it.
The only thing is this video said the mat was included with his purchase however it is not offered as a freebie but is available for purchase.
Just waiting for my return authorization from Litter Robot, they have a 90-day return policy.
You won't regret it. I really, really wish the LR4 lived up to its potential but it unfortunately has had nothing but problems.
"The greatest gladiator match in the history of the world." -Lex Luthor
In all seriousness, fantastic analysis of both cat boxes and great video on general! Very well done!
I don't think I've ever come across a better review video ever, for whatever product.
Thanks for all the detail, you've earned yourself a sub
Thank you very much for the kind words and the sub!
Great review. I was just going to get the LR4 but now that I've seen this, I'm going the other way. It's gotta work all the time for $600. Thanks again.
Thank you for the comment! You won't be disappointed!
❤Me too! Thanks so much for this video!!!!
Your litter robot is dirtier inside because the litter hasn't had enough time to clump and dried down, this stains the interior during rotation, try extending the litter wait time to 15 minutes and you will see the interior stains reduced significantly as the default set wait time for LR is only 7 minutes. I believe Loo interior is cleaner because of the longer wait time and litter had enough time to clump.
The Loo is set to 30 seconds out of the box. I set it to 2 minutes. The LR4 was set to the default 7 minutes. Unfortunately this isn't the case.
@@dontburnthehousedownvideosum...nothing was rude? Just offered an opinion that was straightforward. I'm not sure what's rude. Maybe presumptuous but not rude
The rude comment got deleted. I'll delete my reply to it. 😉
I have the same issue with the LR3... It gets gross so FAST! I have to do a deep clean about 1-2x a week which defeats the purpose... I'm OVER litter robot.. So many issues with it and I've had it about 2-3 years.for the price tag it should last longer.
@@stephaniefoster5064 I've had LR3 for 5 years, first 4 years hardly any issues, but this last year was a nightmare, breaks down every other month and some parts needs to be replaced or something, been costing me a lot of money, I'm not happy as well. I just replaced the dfi sensor a week ago, and been working again for 1 week, but anxious to see how this will last before another issue, so tired mentally and financially.
I don't think I'm gonna have a need to watch any other of your other videos, but I'm gonna sub just for the amount of effort you put into this review. Thank you!
Hey thank you so much! And you never know when you might need some RV tips and tricks! 😂
Thanks for both the set up video for the LLT and the comparison! They were both very informative and helpful.
Really appreciated the review and the unbiased approach given to both products, thank you!
Thanks for the video…it was exactly what I needed to see to make my decision!!
Well done, nice review and thanks for the effort in putting this together!
I have the LR4 and have been quite happy with it. I did encounter sensor issues and the dreaded red light indicator in the first month. But after setting the drum correctly on the base and cleaning all sensors, it’s worked perfectly for the last 3 months. Regular maintenance is important. Also understanding how the sensors work and their location will help.
Great to see competition in this product type line, great for the consumer. If you’re thinking about getting an automated litter box, these things are well worth it.
Thank you for the comment! I'm glad the LR4 is working well! I have another one coming so we'll see how she does and I'll be sure to report back.
I must say GREAT REVIEW!!!!!!!! You know I've had actually every iteration except for the latest version of litter robot I bought my 1st little robot one before they even had the window at least 16 years ago and I've had 2 of that iteration. The litter robot 2 in my opinion was their best design it had sensors but it would continue to function and go back to home. With maybe it an old clump of litter that got stuck and then it got unstuck and then it ended up in the pile of litter and I'm OK with that because at least The cats have somewhere to go if you're not home and can't reset it. The litter robot 3 is the one I've had for about the last year and it's been nothing but a headache and I've come so close to throwing them out the window and the thing is as I didn't buy 1 I didn't buy 2 I bought 3 new ones last year of litter robot 3 connect and it has gotten me so angry That I've actually kicked it around the room! And I've never ever in 63 years have I ever done something Like that to anything in my life, especially that I've spent that kind of money on. But yeah I've gotten really zero support I've contacted them I got an email back and telling me that oh you're warranties running out January 6th and it's been crickets ever since so yeah they let my warranty run out did not take care of it and I've tried the hacks that I found for covering up the litter robot 3's pinch sensor and I would say 50% it works, but when I have to check my litter Box 3 times A-day That's more than when I had a scoopable standard Basic plastic Box with no mechanism. I appreciate the fact that you really were unbiased. Me my video would say NO, NOT NOW NOT EVER CHOOSE LITTER ROBOT AGAIN.
I appreciate this review so much! Thanks for taking the time to put this together.
This was a great review. Thank you very much for putting the time into this.
Thank you so much!
Thank you for this comparison. I have been wanting the Liter box 4 for many months. Seeing your comparison with the Leo Loos Too opened my eyes. I never even heard of Smarty Pear company. I ordered the Leo Loos Too. The dimensions are even better for us for where we wanted to put it than the Liter box 4. We can't wait until it arrives. I hope our cats like it and if functions perfectly just like it has for you.
Hey, do you have any updates on the Loo?
thanks for the review i’ve owned the LR4 about 5 months and it’s red lighted for no reason just recently - i cleaned the sensor with Q tips and seems ok now , as for the Leo i will keep my eye on it - the small collection box is a deal killer for now , i travel and have 2 cats and my LR4 goes 5 to 6 days. Thanks for all the tips!
Thanks for the video. I'm convinced this is the one I'll get. I like the smaller entrance so I don't have to see so much inside.
I actually just got the litter robot 4 and love it. I have mine next to a Coway air purifier and It NEVER smells. I’ve also asked friends who don’t have cats to honestly tell me if they smelled cats, and they said no. Also I changed the setting on the litter robot to 15 minutes. Just changing it from the factory setting of seven minutes helped so much in clumping. The interior stays pretty clean. Thank you so much for the review. I haven’t heard of that other company. I may get a second one and looking into that one. Honestly the litter robot 4 has been worth every penny so far.
Is it still doing well ?
I also wanna know, how is your experience so far?
Thankyou for the review!!!!
@@ckmoon17 yes. Totally worth it. I am saving hundreds on kitty litter also.
@@andreatabares89 amazing. Still
Working well, and has made my life so much easier! Totally took care of the smell.
I have two litter robot 3s and I don't regret getting automatic boxes given the number of cats I have, but I definitely wish the Leo's loo too had been around when I bought it and that I could've watched this review. Some of the design issues have been resolved with the LR4 (namely drawer a hole design) but it looks like some of the same ones are still there. I think I'll keep an eye out for promotions with the LLT and look into getting one. Thanks for your review!
Thank you for the comment! I'm glad the 3's are working well for you. They're definitely awesome!
@@dontburnthehousedownvideos They work okay. I still get a little annoyed at having spent around $1,000 for them and they aren't better. Different hacks I've seen here on RUclips help, and customer service, when I needed replacement parts (seems a given with whisker) were good. This was before the LR4 though. I'm looking forward to trying out the Leo's loo too.
Thank you for comparing these! I was about to order the litter robot 4 when I saw several comments on social media about customer service not only being poor but completely unresponsive, even shutting down their phones completely…. Apparently the ceo sent an apology but But many people were still waiting for replies weeks later…. Yikes. Then I read more comments from people who have had failure issues very early on, some not even working from day one. I DONT like the large opening of the robot4 because of obvious reasons…. Smell, appearance, etc…. But there aren’t many alternatives. I asked in online groups and was directed to the Leo’s loo too. Their reviews seem so much better and customer service appears to be more responsive but I still haven’t decided between the two…. I don’t really care about much except price, performance, extended warranty and customer service….
I suspect others are in an identical boat as I am so thank you for doing this!! ❤
Also…. “Beheads the poop!?!”
I’m never going to forget that phrase
😂😂😂😂
Thanks for the comments! Honestly, when I saw the poop get hacked in half all I could think of was a dark ages beheading. 😂
The Loo Too has been working great so far. I have no comaints with it.
@@dontburnthehousedownvideos Can that clear plastic cover be enlarged or even removed towards the back? It is a weird design flaw. Great review! I've had the LR3 for 4 years & right now it keeps giving an "over-torque" error message and stops. I've had the liner (they sent the whole globe because I have major hand problems & lack the ability to install a liner) replaced twice and the base once - now possibly heading for the second one. I had already submitted a request for assistance through the app, but it is good to know they theoretically prioritize it. I had already decided against the LR4 because it sounded like a nightmare. I found your review looking for possible ways to repair the LR3 that's being a pain. Thanks for such a detailed review!
This is a great comparison. Very helpful as I look to make my first purchase.
Really appreciate your commentary and in depth review of these two devices. I can tell you have cats of your own and care about the same things I do when looking at these expensive devices! Thank you! We have a litter box 3 but we are about to purchase the loo too to have a secondary litter box. Can't wait for it to come and try it out!
Thank you so much for the comment! I think you'll really enjoy the Loo Too.
How is it going? I have the LR 3 and thinking of trying the Loo Too.
It's been great! Absolutely zero complaints about the Loo Too.
Omg. Thank you. So much!! This is the best review ever Ive seen on youtube. I almost purchased LR4, now I am changing my mind after your review. 🎉🎉
Thank you! Definitely check out my follow up videos also. The LR4 has fixed some of it's glitches.
I have two large Ragdolls and unfortunately the LLT is just not designed for larger breeds. I had to return for the LR4 which accommodates them perfectly.
Thank you so much, this helps me a lot on deciding which to buy for my fur babies.
This review is so thorough and helpful! Thank you so much
You must have some dirty cats my god!! I have had the LR4 for 2 months and it is clean as a whistle. Have had no problems with it. Odd how two people can have polar opposite experience lol!!
Certainly, information to think about. However, I've noticed in at least one earlier video that you've had problems with your LR4 which others have also experienced. But although LR has more or less fixed these issues through software upgrades, it seems to suggest you have an ax to grind which colors your review here somewhat.
While the LLT is still a great choice and is also hard to go wrong with, ultimately, and at the end of the day, I'd EASILY give the nod to the Litter Robot. LR/Whisker has been in business for many years now and has continually upgraded and perfected its products. In fact, feature-for-feature I feel far more comfortable with them and believe you unfairly gave the LR short shrift. In fairness, yes, I own an LR4 (and LR3). So not having tried the LLT personally, it colors my opinion similarly. Yet the bottom line remains that I'm extremely happy with my Litter Robots. I'm still glad you've found the solution that works for you personally and thank you for taking the time and effort to give us the benefits of your own experience. There are certainly more than one choice now and competition is always good!
Thanks for the comment. The beauty of my situation is that I don't hold any brand loyalty as I've never owned either product until now. My reviews are based solely on my own experience. Now if you wanted me to do a head to head comparison of pickup trucks, yeah, I'd definitely have a bias. 😂 Either way, I'm glad you love your LR3 and 4. At the end of the day it's all about finding something that fits!
One more thing, my LR4 is a replacement that is current on its firmware. If you watch closely when I'm letting both the units run their cycles, the LR4 actually hangs up and gives me the red light again. I'm glad Whisker is working on the issues but, in my experience, I still can't trust it alone.
Fair enough. While I believe you've merely had the bad luck of being one of the 0.5% with a troubled machine any manufacturer might churn out, you can only judge based on your personal experience, which I know -- at least for your LR4 -- hasn't been good. But who knows, it might very very well have been me producing this same review video had your karma been mine. Ultimately, like a bad first impression, trust is a hard thing to turn around on that second meeting. ;-)
@@dontburnthehousedownvideos Maybe you don't have brand loyalty based on experience, but wasn't the Leo's Loo Too given to you for free, whereas you bought the LR4 on your own? That does constitute a bias, whether or not you're consciously indulging it.
Not at all. I'd rather love something that I paid $700 of my own money for than something I received for free. It's a bit of a slap in the face honestly, that the more expensive product was the lesser performing one. Had I known then what I know now, I would have bought the Loo Too and saved myself the headache and buyers remorse.
17:23 I have 7 cats & 4 litter robot 3s - I vacuum multiple times a day and I have to wash my dyson's filter at least monthly.
With regard to LR maintence, all four have needed circuit board & sensor replacments. one of my LRs has recently been giving constant error codes and has been replaced by a litter box, and is waiting in the garage for me to troubleshoot to see if it will need another new circuit board & sensor. I'm considering an altenative if the board & sensor are shot.
I'm glad I found this video and think the LL could be the one.
Thank you for the comprehwnsive review 🎉
I wanted to add that having to replace the sensors every year or so isn't necessarily a complaint. Cat urine, poops, and litter dust create a harsh environment, so with the pinch and drawer-full sensors being near the waste drawer, it means those parts are going to take abuse. Being able to repair a $550 item myself with a $30 part is actually a selling point because it avoids obsolescence or having to dump a malfunctioning unit into a landfill. I just wanted share that part of my experience. A fully functional LR3 is a great thing and I don't regret my purchase
After doing research on automatic litter boxes online, I bought the Leo's Loo Too. I have never owned an automatic litter box. I have had my LLT for just over one year. I have 2 cats. They both took to it right away and didn't even want to use their old box. My only complaint is the size of the opening to the storage box and that it does tell you a little too late when it is full. I also try to shake it before I open it but that doesn't always work. I am glad I chose the LLT. Thanks for the review.
Thank you for the comment. Remove the plastic lid on the waste drawer! It pops right off. I did it and had zero issues after that.
Thank you for this video...just got an elspet and we all couldn't get it to work...no one to call..I will look at Leo's loo too now thanks to you!
This video is great! I chose the LR3 over the 4 because I liked the opening better. I had not seen the Leo’s Loo Too I’m sure glad I did not buy the LR4. I hope I don’t have to buy another robot litter box soon but I would definitely consider the Leo!
Excellent video! Thank you! I have LR3 and I do enjoy it but I can’t lie it’s had issues. Still worth it not having to scoop after 3 cats everyday. However after almost 4 years I’m ready for an upgrade. LL2 seems like a great next option!
Thank you! I've had several comments where people say the LL2 is very similar to the LR3 but I've never had a 3 to mess around with so I can't confirm or deny that. But the Loo Too is still working great!
Thank you. Absolutely hands down best side by side comparison and overall reviews of each. 👏👏
Thank you!
I'm trying to figure out if I want the pet safe for around 150 and a 500 table to hide it in. Problem with the enclosure is they are almost always too small for the gen1 automatic litter boxes so the price goes up on the enclosure. Still think I like the gen 1 box but with a baby coming the enclosure will be a must.
Thank you for providing an unbiased review. I was not familiar with the 'Leo Loo too' before watching your review. Although I'm interested in owning either unit now I find it difficult to justify the cost. The con of both units is the price.
The price has jumped up since you made this video. It must be due to inflation LOL… it was $649.99. If you are lucky you can get $20 off.
Thank you for the comment! You are absolutely right about the cost. Is the convenience worth the price? It's honestly hard to say. I do appreciate the fact that I'm not required to scoop every day and it definitely contains the odors far better than a traditional cat box. But those price tags keep getting bigger
Hi i found this very informative. If I could afford one I would buy the Leo's Loo Too.
Thank you for the comparison.
Thank you for putting out this information 👍🏼
On the Leo Loo Too is there a way to remove the plastic top on the waste drawer and it still function? Or maybe just every couple days pull the waste drawer out and give it a shake?
Thank you so much for the awesome review. The price on the LLT has come up and is now about the same as the LR4, so trying to decide if I want to go for it. I have to agree with you re: LR4’s support. I actually ordered a LR4 in November for delivery before/by Christmas. On the delivery day (second week of December), it went into limbo with FedEx. Contacted LR4’s support and was told that the FedEx hub was experiencing delays and to let them know if no receipt within 3 business days. No receipt via FedEx so contacted LR4 again with no response. Reached out again and was told a replacement would be sent priority with delivery by 12/30. Annnnd that didn’t happen. So I figured, ok, this is definitely a sign that the LR4 is not for me. XD.
And how has been your experience so far with it?
Thank you. You helped with my choice of purchasing. Very informative video.
Thank you!
I'm curious about the litter tray issue with the LLT. Can that plastic lid that covers the tray be removed to eliminate the clumps underneath when the bag is full?
The problems I've encountered with both these designs is the rubber litterbox floor. Cats tear them up over time. Then 2 things happen. First, litter starts sticking to the rubber and in a short time you have strong ammonia smell. Second, the holes in the rubber allow urine to leak underneath, this causes the metal weight to corrode and fall out of the rubber which results in: the rubber not "dropping" to dislodge stuck litter and urine seeping onto the drum track and motor.
Litter-Robot does offer replacement rubber floors at $60 each. But I have 3 cats and these only last a few months.
Great review…I started with the litter 4 and had the same issues to the point I sold it (thank goodness) and bought the Loo…I totally agree with your comparison! I am having an issue with the Loo powering off after exactly 2 min after it was used… it has consistently done this each time after use…exactly 2 min recorded in the register. So I’m contacting Loo for help. Thanks again for “telling it like it is”.
Thank you for the comment. The Loo has been working great for me as well. That powering off issue definitely sounds annoying but hopefully they'll take care of it.
I saw this one after I spent days researching and just pulled the trigger. I almost cancelled when it took so long but got the robot today. It's still in the box. I honestly don't want to have a mental breakdown over a faulty litter box .my back is killing me and I can go without that tonight
witch one you got and how do you like it ?
My LR3 lasted less than 3yrs and died because the sensors was fried. The contact sensors also rusted from contact with waste. But worrying that they still have all these sensors that can stop it working. One flaw I did immediately notice with the Leo's Loo Too in your review was how big the holes are in the grills. That definitely won't sift out the smaller pieces.
Fortunately they replaced those metal contacts with micro switches on the lr4.
Great review! I was thinking of upgrading my old litter robot 3, but I will probably wait a bit longer to work out the kinks. My robot 3 has been great for 2 years and it was reconditioned. My 2nd reconditioned robot 3 has been a pain from day one but I can deal as they are minimal. They both cost less due to being reconditioned so that helps.
Great video explaining the faults of each.
Thank you!
Thank you for contacting me very quickly I have tried all ,and quite a few times so ,I see if a electrician can find the faults as when it worked it was Brilliant sadly I can't understand why whiskers let so many people down ,thanks again for your support
I have Leo Loo for two weeks. I like it very much. The company is also very good. My first unit arrived damaged, and the scale and sensors had problems. I received a replacement within 3-4 days and it's working very well. I can't compare it to anything else, but I see from other videos I chose well because my kitten pees with his but turn toward the entrance. I'm very happy so far.
You have what for 2 weeks?
@@kbotah2023 leo loo
I have the Robot 4 and the bonnet is not loose. And my controls are higher up. That being said, with 2 cats, it is perfect. Mine is SO quiet, hopefully, he has a older model and that is the difference.
Can you please email me a picture of what yours looks like? I literally received a "new and improved" unit a few weeks ago and it still has all the issues my first 2 had.
Dontburnthehousedownvideos@gmail.com
Omg this was a great review. I was looking at LR4 but would rather get the Loo. Thank you!
Thank you so much for the in depth review!! So helpful!! I purchased LLT a few days ago and hoping it’s worth every penny!!
Thank you for the comment! Hopefully you'll enioy it as much as I am
awesome video you helped me make my mind up Im getting the Leo
Actually I have both of these and can you remove the plastic lid? Because I agree with you that's the most annoying part about the loo.
It’s removable- it just has UV to kill bacteria- for smell
I really like your review! I found it because I'm having issues with my 3 weeks old LR4, after the third time it has been replace, first one came with a crack from front to back, second one sensor would not work well, and this one the third one has issues with the basket weight and after spending 20 min waiting for someone to answer the phone, asked for a manager had to wait for manager to call back and she called pretty quick extended the trial period send me a gift package and sent me an email with all trouble shutting steps of your other LR$ video, fingers cross I clean the sensors and will give it three days to see how it works. Like somethings for the Leo's Loo Too, But that pup mess on the trey at the bottom and because of that basket design through me off, one thing, My LR4 doesn't get that dirty inside, that could be how much cat digs and covers pee and poop , I have set mine at 7min. Also I have an 18 year old cat and I would picture any old cat Struggling entering the small hole, plus it sits higher, the dripping of pee; I have not have an issue once, my cats walked in move around dig and usually don't pee on the front, but sides or back. Fingers cross, this thing works!. thanks again for your sincere review.
Great video, very helpful and interesting.
You see the two white circle thingy on the LR4 at 5:18? Those are there to support the drum. It's like those furniture sliders. I also don't think my cat would use the Leo as the opening is too small. My cat didn't like the LR3 but likes the LR4 due to the larger opening.
Thanks for the comment. I've had a few folks correct me on those Teflon nubs so yeah, I got that one wrong.
My cats started in the LR4 until it failed but they've had zero issues with the Loo. I put them side by side for a while and they only used the Loo. In the end, it's about getting the best one that works for you!
Loved your analysis. It was so helpful!
Thank you!
Wow, thank you for this great info! I have the LR3, and all was fine with just one cat. Then I got 2 more cats, and while I don't mind emptying the tray daily and having to clean it more (due to 3 cats vs just 1), I DO mind how much it breaks down and has to be fiddled with to make it work. I was going to get the LR4 to have two litter box options for my 3 cats, but I think I may go with the Loo instead.
I think this review provides some good points but I thought the Leo Loo Too's problem with cat waste and poop getting smeared was overlooked a little quickly. Some of the other pros/cons are valid but at the end of the day, there isnt much worse than constantly cleaning up poop because the hole on the Leo Loo Too waste drawer is ultra small.
That's exactly what I think as well, having to clean raw poop from the tray and the inside looks absolutely terribe for me, I loved the big capacity on the LR4 so If only the Leo's had that same space for the poop I believe I would have definately inclined to buy it (not only me but I believe so many people as well) since the perfect scenario is you having all the time taking the tray out ON TIME, the reality is we are not always that precise, so having poop smeared very often really discouraged me. That sucks since I am seeing a large amount of people complaining about the LR4. I am happy they have such good competitors which is what really improves all company's quality on their products
I have reservation about the collection at the opening of the the lid of the waste container design but I'm surprise that no one else talked about it. Does everyone have to jiggle the container everyday to distribute the waste evenly inside the container to prevent the waste from building up into the opening hence causing a big mess? I have not pulled the trigger because of this. I may have to consider the LR4 even though I like the look of the Leo's much better.
First, let me say I loved your review. I have previously owned a litter robot 3 and I was always getting notifications about the bonnet being removed or a pinch sensor defect. For that reason, I ended up getting rid of it. I like the sound of the Leo Loo . My only concern is, that one of my cats is 6kg and when he pees he goes in and pees without turning around so sometimes the pee would run down the front, like you mentioned. My question is do you think this would happen with the Leo Loo if they didn't turn around and face forward?
Thank you for the comment! I have one cat that will sometimes do that when she pees and the Loo Too was much better at catching it than the LR4.
Thanks for responding. I'm in Australia and will wait a bit for a sale 😊@@dontburnthehousedownvideos
For the lootoo could you just take that plastic cover off of the tray and see if it works without it?
Yep! I did that and it works great!
I’ve been doing so much research on the LLT, reading reviews/feedback, TikTok’s, and RUclips reviews. Your video has most definitely been the most helpful! I do have to ask (even tho IK my experience might differ from yours) after posting this 11 months ago, how is the LLT doing today? Has the longevity lived up to the amount of money you spent originally on the product? I only ask because it’s the price I feel very iffy about!
Hope you respond soon, thanks!
Hello! The LLT has held up great! I still stand by it as a product for sure. The LR4 has definitely come along ways though also. Make sure to watch my LR4 Part 2 video. I don't think you can go wrong with either one now.
very good comparison, I am right now deciding between these 2 litter box... I have a question... looks like the biggest drawback with Leo's is the bag container... does it work if you just remove the clear plastic lid? because looks like all the problem come from it
You can definitely remove the lid but the drawer is still an issue. It doesn't fit regular garbage bags but the LR4 does. In my mind, the LR4 is much better from the drawer perspective.
As a single cat dad of one cat, when I leave for a trip I can't really leave my cat more than a few days, so was trying to figure out if a week getaway would work out better with Litter Robot. I honestly wouldn't feel safe leaving my cat 2 weeks alone but a week away from home would really help me enjoy a proper vacation. Can either product handle a week without needing tending, such as adding more litter or the pit needing cleaning?
I wonder if you sprayed ceramic car wax on the plastic it would clean up better
Thank you for your video. I am not so much looking for the bells and whistles. I just want something where I don’t have to scoop everyday. And the price. I do like the idea of the blue light on the LL2. But I also like that the LR is in the US and being able to buy the spare parts. my hands down the LL2 wins. Thanks again!!
Thank you for the comment! I think you'll be very happy with it
Awesome viedo!! Thank you so much. Question. How do you empty leo loo too for a deep clean? Does it have any empty cycle? 🤔 Thanks 😊
Thank you! So the LR4 has a button to reverse the drum and completely empty the Litter into the bin. However I don't believe the Loo Too has the same functionality. I just use a small cup to scoop out most of the litter by hand and then a vacuum to get the rest.
I'm excited to say, I just ordered my Blue Leo Loo Too. And it'll be here before Christmas!!! Omg.
Oh one more question. Where you able to remove the cover on the Leo Loo's litter pan?
Yes! It pops off pretty easily. The rep from the company said that design is to help with the odor control but there is nothing stopping someone from removing it.
Thank you for this video!!
so helpful!
All I can say is wow! Thank you for your review, it was beyond helpful in my decision making! This is the first of your videos I have watched, now I've liked and subscribed and going to look for more, I really want to know if you have tried removing the plastic lid on the drawer! Thank you again!
Thank you for the comment! I did remove the lid from the drawer and it works like a champ without it.
Only option for me in Canada seems to be the LR. So I just ordered for $1,000 😕 hope it’s good.
Eeekkk 😬 How is it working??
@@BabyDoll-fs3bu I love it a lot. It was expensive but so far worth it and the shipping wasn’t too bad. Cats are fascinated with it still.
Will a large 15-16 pound cat fit in the loo too?
Ours is 16 and he fits just fine
I came across your comparison with the LL2 and LR4 right after I returned a LL2 and ordered the LR4 and decided to revisit this comparison now that I’ve had my LR4 for 4 weeks - not long, I know. I appreciate how thorough you are with both units. One thing which should be mentioned is that while the company that makes the Leo’s Loo is in CA, they do not manufacture the actual item. It’s manufactured in China. On Amazon, the question on Country of Origin was asked and Smarty Pear responded by saying “We are a Palo Alto, CA based company with a US based support team.” - this is also what they state on their website. Some would call this deflection; I call it dishonesty. My Leo’s Loo Too started glitching right out of the box, and by day 6 it would not cycle on its own. Multiple calls to Support resolved nothing. I resorted to manually cycling. The app never connected. Ever. Due to the small drawer and that pile-up issue you pointed out I was having to take apart the globe to clean it daily. My husband said to send it back and get the US made Litter Robot 4. We’ve been thrilled with the Litter Robot 4! App connected right off and it does so much! Our inquisitive cat liked both the LL2 and the LR4, while our scaredy-cat never used the LL2 due to the small opening but used the LR4 right off the bat also. Our youngest pees against the LR4’s ‘gate’ every time and it hasn’t leaked (knock on wood!). Neither the LL2 or the LL4 had poo smears, but we extended the cycle times. Different experiences for everyone, I suppose 🙂 I sincerely hope your LL2 continues to please you, and I agree they are darned pricey! Thanks!
I had asked earlier where the LLT was made as the LR is made in the US. Thanks for letting me know, one more reason to buy an LR.
The LR4 works on carpet? I thought it only worked on hard surfaces?
It definitely works better on a hard surface. The scale doesn't read accurately if it's not on a hard surface
Got the Leo loo too because of this video. I think it was the better choice, and cheaper. Works great!!
Thank u i will just wait a little longer be bless
so did you remove that clear plastic poo bin cover? If so, any better?
Yes I did! It makes a world of difference in the waste dropping down.
@@dontburnthehousedownvideos Thank you ! I was wondering the same thing, why would they put a lid there, at first, i thought it's for the uv to function properly, but guess not. I'll take mine off too then
You rocked it!! Thank You, Happy Holidays to you and yours
Thank you so much!
Awesome video!! This video was very informative. Thank you 😊
Thank you!
Simple, to the point. Loved it
Thank you!
Thank you, great video! QUESTIONS1 : Is the Leo Loo Too only operated through an app on your phone? Can it run without being connected to wifi/internet?
QUESTION 2: How many days longer can you go without emptying/replenishing the Litter Robot than the Loo Too? Thanks
1. The initial setup (to my knowledge) has to be done on a phone. There's only a single button on the LL2 so I'm not sure how much functionality there is without the app.
2. The LR4 can go longer in between emptying because of the drawer design. The LL2 requires a "shake down" every 2 days or so because the waste piles up at the opening. The LR4 has a wider opening and allows it to fall more evenly in the drawer.
@@dontburnthehousedownvideos Thank you so much! Super helpful!
The litter robot does have a fair share of issues, but the pee outside of the box thing might just be your cats😭. I'm a LR4 owner, but I'm always looking for alternatives because competition is important. Leo's is around the same price now, but def looks like a great option
I wanted to see how he responded to your comment but looks like he is ignoring that. I am also curious why the LR4 was significantly dirtier. Maybe his cats preferably used it more? What’s your thoughts? I have LR3 with one large cat and want to add one more unit asap. Seriously debating between these two. The Leo looks awfully small. Also it has only a 3 minute post exit cycle time so not sure urine/feces clumping will be optimal in 3 minutes. But still he showed LR4 as seriously dirty. I am starting to doubt this guys analysis unless he responds
It happens to some cats. If you watch videos from other people reviewing the robot. But usually other people say it could be the stress. If the cat pee outside.
Excellent informative review
Thank you so much for this video!! I’ve been seeing to many mixed signals with the litter box 3 &4!!! I was scared of the LLT because it looked like a copy version of the litter box but with what I personally do and don’t want to deal with I’m definitely going with the LLT
I think I'm going with the Leo's Loo Too because my cats like a more enclosed box and I do NOT want to see the inside of my litter box.
Great choice!
To save you 34 min of your time, ChatGPT to the rescue:
The video is a detailed comparison between two automated cat litter boxes: the Litter Robot 4 (LR4) and the Leo's Loo 2 (LL2). Here's a summary of the key points and the conclusion:
Operation: Both units operate similarly, using a rotating mechanism to sift through the litter and deposit waste into a separate compartment.
Design Flaws: Both units have design flaws. The LL2 has a smaller waste opening, which can lead to overflow if not emptied frequently. The LR4 has a larger opening, but the reviewer noted instances where the cat urinated out of the opening, causing a mess.
Cleaning and Maintenance: The LL2 requires more frequent emptying due to its smaller waste compartment. However, the LR4 was noted to be dirtier and required more cleaning due to its larger opening, which allowed more litter to spill out.
App Functionality: Both units have apps that provide notifications and controls. The LR4's app was noted to have more features, including a measurement of how full the waste drawer is.
Customer Support: The reviewer had a better experience with the customer support for LL2, being able to connect directly with the company's CEO. The LR4's customer support was criticized for being difficult to reach.
Value for Money: The LL2 is cheaper than the LR4, and the reviewer felt it offered better value for money due to its performance and the included accessories.
In conclusion, the reviewer preferred the Leo's Loo 2 over the Litter Robot 4, despite both having their own flaws. The LL2 was seen as more reliable, easier to maintain, and better value for money. However, the reviewer emphasized that neither product is perfect and potential buyers should weigh the pros and cons based on their specific needs.
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@@dontburnthehousedownvideos ;)
Still got a like and subscribe. =)
I'll call that a win! Thanks man!
I got the MeoWant and it's pretty good but it's just too low. And I have a hard time leaning over bc of chronic illnesses. I'm thinking about returning it and getting another box. I was looking at both the Leo's Loo and LR4. So glad I found your video! I had decided on the Litter Robot but I think you've changed my mind. This answered a lot of my questions. I was wondering, How heavy is the Leo's Loo drum compared to LR4 drum?
Great review we appreciate the honest info. I am wondering how Leo’s unit is doing today since you post your video over a month.
Doing great! Not a single issue with it.
@@dontburnthehousedownvideos That's awesome!
It looks like I should go for it. My only concern is the hole/entrance size when having a big cat (like Maine Coon)
We have two pretty good sized cats and they both squeeze in there with no issues. I think that might be part of the reason why they preferred the LL2 over the LR4. A bit more privacy for when they did their business.
Great video man 🙌 incredibly informative
Thank you! I'm glad you liked it!
The LLT is now $699 with the mat and liners. I wish I’d gotten in a month ago!
Dangit! Stupid inflation!
The litter robot 4 is $699 not including the mat or liners with tax (in Texas) it goes up to $754 as of right now with nothing else included
I’ve had the litter robot 4 for 8 days and I’m not happy with it at all. It’s constantly having issues and today we had to spend 90 mins getting it to work. Meanwhile the cat peed on the floor. Lovely. Just what I spent 1k dollars for lol. Ordering the loo too now and I’ll see what one I’m keeping or maybe both. Insane someone hasn’t made one of these that is truly great. Maybe the loo is the answer.
As I pointed out in this video, the Loo Too doesn't have the bells and whistles that the LR4 has but...... it..... just..... works.. And works. And works. No problems, minimal maintenance, it works.
@@dontburnthehousedownvideos yeah I searched all over for info on these but of course RUclips never gave me your content until after I got the LR