Winter tires are always the most important component for driving in snowy condition. I never understood people spending big buck for a SUV and cheap out on getting a set of winter tires.
Portland, Oregon rarely gets snow ❄, so the city is never prepared. A couple of years ago my F-Pace was the snow and ice taxi for family from 3 different houses. It did fine, even with all season tires.
I’ve had an F-Pace for 3 years, and just this winter finally tried out the ASPC mode in the snow. Snow/ice mode with launch control is good, but the ASPC seems to be what you want to enable for the slickest conditions (0-20 mph cruise control with descent control).
I am actually quite impressed that those All-Season tires didn't have you skidding all over the place! Nevertheless, awesome video. From one car enthusiast to another, keep up the unique and interesting videos!
Most crossovers have barely adequate all wheel drive systems and the F-Pace is no different, except that it primarily a rear drive rather than a front drive system. Irrespective of the system design and engineering, tires are the most important factor. No matter how sophisticated the AWD system, if the tires don't work, your ride will be arduous and hazardous. I've driven many of the current crop of crossovers, including an F-Pace. I like the F-Pace a lot. I didn't drive it in snow, but I have driven other crossovers in snow. These include the Forester, Santa Fe, Rav4, Mazda CX-5 and Escape. The best, by far, was the Mazda CX-5. Unlike every other manufacturer, Mazda's system is predictive rather than reactive. Reactive systems wait until one axle has lost traction before transferring torque to the other axle. That's simply too late, because the spinning wheels are, effectively, useless at contributing to traction. Mazda's system distributes torque based upon analysis of 27 sensors that determine if traction MIGHT be lost. Thus, all four wheels retain traction. Adhesion in snow is phenomenal compared to reactive systems. Mazda's OEM all season Yokohama tires work much better than I had expected. I have video of the CX-5 in 1"-2" of snow on winding roads, and the Mazda maintains a comfortable speed (at the speed limit), without the slightest hint of slipping, even under braking. It gets through deeper snow (8") without serious drama, but greater depth is pushing one's luck... For serious snowstorms, I have a Jeep Wrangler JK fitted with TreadWright Warden Kedge Grip tires. These tires are unique in that the rubber compound contains ground glass and crushed walnut shell. Nothing, and I really mean "nothing", matches these tires on snow and ice. They go, steer and stop like no other winter tire. Mine are installed on a set of factory wheels and are used exclusively in winter. Because the tire has a lesser volume of rubber, they wear faster than standard tires. Thus, I only install them for months when snow is common. The remaining 8 months, I run mud-terrain type tires (which are marginal on packed snow or ice, at best). If you drive a Jeep or light truck and live in the snow belt, check out TreadWright at www.treadwright.com/
SPAM. Mazda's system is one of the worst ones, with open diffs in slippery conditions you're basically driving a 2 wheel drive car. Mazda joins Honda and Hyundai/Kia among the worst ones where traction control cannot control that and work as a quasi LSD (cannot brake the spinning wheel which would send power to the other).
Let's watch a few videos.... ruclips.net/video/J66v5hdHAxw/видео.html ruclips.net/video/2o8awlEdPdo/видео.html Note, on this second video, all vehicles were driven by members of the automotive press, not Mazda employees. ruclips.net/video/PUXCKaR9ZUo/видео.html
Second video is basically a Mazda guy saying what he has to say. Second and third video come from the same event organised by Mazda. First video shows a situation thta has nothing to do with real life. Both rear wheels were on the tarmac with the perfect grip. Open diffs played no role here. But they did matter here: ruclips.net/video/xlt11Z4JAB8/видео.htmlm4s CX-5 pretty much failed (and it had just one wheel in the air!). That's where it lacks - when niether axle has perfect grip, traction control is unable to brake the wheel that's spinning - that would force the diff to send power to another wheel which has some grip and go forward. On the icy road you're quite likely to lack grip on both axles.
I've seen that video and they state that traction control is turned off. Moreover, having watched other tests at the same places with other vehicles, the driver has a habit of stopping certain vehicles when a wheel is in the air, and with others, not stopping. Stopping and the loss of momentum is the primary culprit in unloading the tires. It also helps to have more suspension articulation as seen with solid axle trucks and Jeeps. But, let's discuss what I was talking about, and it wasn't climbing up 45° slopes at angles. That's not something I'd use any crossover for. My Wrangler will deal with that like a parking lot speed bump. I was discussing road driving in snow conditions. So, let's stick to the topic. I presented videos that were specifically about just that. Sure, Mazda was showing off their cars. But, they also brought the competition and all were driven by automotive press. The CX-5 and CX-3 were clearly superior on snow. We own a 2015 Impreza, driven mostly by my wife. My daily driver is a 2016.5 CX-5 (several mid-year upgrades over the 2016, including revised i-Activ programming). Having driven both the Subaru and the Mazda in snow, the CX-5 is simply better. It suffers almost no wheel spin and maintains superior traction at all speeds. On snow covered roads where the Subaru understeers badly, the Mazda is nearly neutral. Granted, the Impreza isn't a crossover and has considerably less ground clearance. However, in two inches of snow, that isn't a factor. Mazda adjusts torque to prevent slippage, where Subaru adjusts power after slippage occurs. As could be shown with my Wrangler, locked front diffs are bad news in snow, because the vehicle simply resists turning. You DO NOT want the front wheels rotating at the same speed when turning. The tighter radius on the inside wheel results in it sliding and that results in understeer. "Snow wheelers" understand this. I installed an Aussie locker up front, that can be disengaged by simply lifting the throttle and reducing torque. Induce a bit of wheel spin under power and it locks up again. This makes my Jeep far more maneuverable than a standard Rubicon with both axles electrically locked. When it snows just a few inches, we take the Mazda and leave the Subaru in the driveway. When we get heavy snow, we leave both in the driveway and take the Jeep.
Those are some slick roads you guys are driving on! It's been raining here in Florida nonstop for the last two days. Dirt roads are slush at best. Stay warm, guys!
Great review informative as well as entertaining.. good humour... I'm in the process of buying s/h a 3.0L diesel F Pace in Caesium blue... its replacing my 3.0L Sovereign X Type ...also awd... which has been great
Watching this on a brand new laptop I just got today at Best Buy. Hoo, man, is this good! On my previous computer, I had an i3 single core and could only watch in 480p, sometimes at 720p on a good day. This has i7 quad cores and breezed through this video at 1080p like it was no biggie. Where has this computer been all my life? Loved the snow!
I went through 2 Outbacks and a WRX and I loved all of them. Last year replaced Outback XT (2.5 Turbo) with F-Pace and after a 10k miles would do this again without hesitation. The driving fun is like WRX plus all the SUV/space benefits. Steering, suspension and power (have 340hp v6 supercharged engine) is what makes is so much special than the Outback. Of course it costs more but was worth it, at least for me. Test drive it and you will see what I am talking about.
My came with Continental all season tires, and they've been fine in the snow ❄ for me. Not living in a heavy snow location though. Would have a set of winter tires if I did.
The F-Pace with the 2.0L turbo weighs less than 4000 pounds. Engine is not a rocket like the 3.0L supercharged, obviously. But still able to move this spacious SUV reasonably quickly.
ever drove one or just saying becoz you have to talk crap....look up the new product line up and the new JD Power dependability data, you will be surprised.
I agree that it costs too much for the quality of materials. But I love driving mine. I hate putting it in my garage and turning the engine off because I just want to keep driving. Really brought back the joy of driving for me.
Winter tires are always the most important component for driving in snowy condition. I never understood people spending big buck for a SUV and cheap out on getting a set of winter tires.
TheHoth1 lol, true, but they run out of cash to get another set of good winter tires
Portland, Oregon rarely gets snow ❄, so the city is never prepared. A couple of years ago my F-Pace was the snow and ice taxi for family from 3 different houses. It did fine, even with all season tires.
I’ve had an F-Pace for 3 years, and just this winter finally tried out the ASPC mode in the snow. Snow/ice mode with launch control is good, but the ASPC seems to be what you want to enable for the slickest conditions (0-20 mph cruise control with descent control).
I am actually quite impressed that those All-Season tires didn't have you skidding all over the place! Nevertheless, awesome video. From one car enthusiast to another, keep up the unique and interesting videos!
I seriously want to move to Colorado because of the videos you guys do.
sorry, states full. haha
@@merdwerkz Well, darn. I guess I'll just have to make due with a visit. 😆
Now people want to move out of Colorado with all the issues
@Fr4nkSanchez Yep! I agree. I ended up moving out of the country, but still plan to vote by absentee ballot in hopes things will get fixed.
Never underestimate the off road capability of land rover jaguar
I love my F Pace, Iowa snow and ice isn't as bad as Colorado, but I've been really happy with it's performance on slick roads. ;)
Took delivery of mine in the spring so i can't wait to drive it in the snow!
Jaguar the brand I like; makes a change from the conservative must drive to conform German
Most crossovers have barely adequate all wheel drive systems and the F-Pace is no different, except that it primarily a rear drive rather than a front drive system. Irrespective of the system design and engineering, tires are the most important factor. No matter how sophisticated the AWD system, if the tires don't work, your ride will be arduous and hazardous.
I've driven many of the current crop of crossovers, including an F-Pace. I like the F-Pace a lot. I didn't drive it in snow, but I have driven other crossovers in snow. These include the Forester, Santa Fe, Rav4, Mazda CX-5 and Escape. The best, by far, was the Mazda CX-5. Unlike every other manufacturer, Mazda's system is predictive rather than reactive. Reactive systems wait until one axle has lost traction before transferring torque to the other axle. That's simply too late, because the spinning wheels are, effectively, useless at contributing to traction. Mazda's system distributes torque based upon analysis of 27 sensors that determine if traction MIGHT be lost. Thus, all four wheels retain traction. Adhesion in snow is phenomenal compared to reactive systems. Mazda's OEM all season Yokohama tires work much better than I had expected. I have video of the CX-5 in 1"-2" of snow on winding roads, and the Mazda maintains a comfortable speed (at the speed limit), without the slightest hint of slipping, even under braking. It gets through deeper snow (8") without serious drama, but greater depth is pushing one's luck...
For serious snowstorms, I have a Jeep Wrangler JK fitted with TreadWright Warden Kedge Grip tires. These tires are unique in that the rubber compound contains ground glass and crushed walnut shell. Nothing, and I really mean "nothing", matches these tires on snow and ice. They go, steer and stop like no other winter tire. Mine are installed on a set of factory wheels and are used exclusively in winter. Because the tire has a lesser volume of rubber, they wear faster than standard tires. Thus, I only install them for months when snow is common. The remaining 8 months, I run mud-terrain type tires (which are marginal on packed snow or ice, at best). If you drive a Jeep or light truck and live in the snow belt, check out TreadWright at www.treadwright.com/
SPAM. Mazda's system is one of the worst ones, with open diffs in slippery conditions you're basically driving a 2 wheel drive car. Mazda joins Honda and Hyundai/Kia among the worst ones where traction control cannot control that and work as a quasi LSD (cannot brake the spinning wheel which would send power to the other).
Let's watch a few videos....
ruclips.net/video/J66v5hdHAxw/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/2o8awlEdPdo/видео.html
Note, on this second video, all vehicles were driven by members of the automotive press, not Mazda employees.
ruclips.net/video/PUXCKaR9ZUo/видео.html
Second video is basically a Mazda guy saying what he has to say. Second and third video come from the same event organised by Mazda.
First video shows a situation thta has nothing to do with real life. Both rear wheels were on the tarmac with the perfect grip. Open diffs played no role here. But they did matter here:
ruclips.net/video/xlt11Z4JAB8/видео.htmlm4s
CX-5 pretty much failed (and it had just one wheel in the air!). That's where it lacks - when niether axle has perfect grip, traction control is unable to brake the wheel that's spinning - that would force the diff to send power to another wheel which has some grip and go forward. On the icy road you're quite likely to lack grip on both axles.
I've seen that video and they state that traction control is turned off. Moreover, having watched other tests at the same places with other vehicles, the driver has a habit of stopping certain vehicles when a wheel is in the air, and with others, not stopping. Stopping and the loss of momentum is the primary culprit in unloading the tires. It also helps to have more suspension articulation as seen with solid axle trucks and Jeeps.
But, let's discuss what I was talking about, and it wasn't climbing up 45° slopes at angles. That's not something I'd use any crossover for. My Wrangler will deal with that like a parking lot speed bump. I was discussing road driving in snow conditions. So, let's stick to the topic. I presented videos that were specifically about just that. Sure, Mazda was showing off their cars. But, they also brought the competition and all were driven by automotive press. The CX-5 and CX-3 were clearly superior on snow. We own a 2015 Impreza, driven mostly by my wife. My daily driver is a 2016.5 CX-5 (several mid-year upgrades over the 2016, including revised i-Activ programming). Having driven both the Subaru and the Mazda in snow, the CX-5 is simply better. It suffers almost no wheel spin and maintains superior traction at all speeds. On snow covered roads where the Subaru understeers badly, the Mazda is nearly neutral. Granted, the Impreza isn't a crossover and has considerably less ground clearance. However, in two inches of snow, that isn't a factor. Mazda adjusts torque to prevent slippage, where Subaru adjusts power after slippage occurs. As could be shown with my Wrangler, locked front diffs are bad news in snow, because the vehicle simply resists turning. You DO NOT want the front wheels rotating at the same speed when turning. The tighter radius on the inside wheel results in it sliding and that results in understeer. "Snow wheelers" understand this. I installed an Aussie locker up front, that can be disengaged by simply lifting the throttle and reducing torque. Induce a bit of wheel spin under power and it locks up again. This makes my Jeep far more maneuverable than a standard Rubicon with both axles electrically locked. When it snows just a few inches, we take the Mazda and leave the Subaru in the driveway. When we get heavy snow, we leave both in the driveway and take the Jeep.
Does not matter what car you drive in the snow as long as you don’t have propper winter tires
Those are some slick roads you guys are driving on! It's been raining here in Florida nonstop for the last two days. Dirt roads are slush at best. Stay warm, guys!
Driving in snow is always a hoot
Great review informative as well as entertaining.. good humour... I'm in the process of buying s/h a 3.0L diesel F Pace in Caesium blue... its replacing my 3.0L Sovereign X Type ...also awd... which has been great
Can we talk about how sexy this car is?
it looks like a buick
consolence s It looks like your mom
@philtripe You definitely need to get your eyes checked!!
James Freedman ikr
philtripe you don’t know what a Buick looks like
Colorado is awesome. I wish I lived there
Feel better Nathan
2023 Well Done, I Like the F-Pace.
It’s a petty complaint but I wish Jaguar would use clap hands wipers on the front windscreen
Watching this on a brand new laptop I just got today at Best Buy. Hoo, man, is this good! On my previous computer, I had an i3 single core and could only watch in 480p, sometimes at 720p on a good day. This has i7 quad cores and breezed through this video at 1080p like it was no biggie. Where has this computer been all my life? Loved the snow!
2:59 That's another place where Jag went cheap, even cheapo VWs have heating mats which are invisible.
You look soooo coooold Nathan! Love this vid of the car!
Great video but I have to say it would have been better without the music in the background.
Wow for 64K I will stick with my Subarus
No kidding, you could buy two Forester XT's for that money.
Jeffrey Ristrom nahhh
I went through 2 Outbacks and a WRX and I loved all of them. Last year replaced Outback XT (2.5 Turbo) with F-Pace and after a 10k miles would do this again without hesitation. The driving fun is like WRX plus all the SUV/space benefits. Steering, suspension and power (have 340hp v6 supercharged engine) is what makes is so much special than the Outback. Of course it costs more but was worth it, at least for me. Test drive it and you will see what I am talking about.
Blizzak snow tires act like suction cups. The worse the weather gets the better these tires work.
Please do a review with these tires on a AWD SUV?
I'm shocked those tires work in snowy conditions.
Same. I was even more surprised that they were even snow and mud rated
My came with Continental all season tires, and they've been fine in the snow ❄ for me. Not living in a heavy snow location though. Would have a set of winter tires if I did.
I will give you a like just because Andre was cold and stuck outside . Snow tires would be a lot safer :-)
how would you compare F-Pace to the new Audi Q7 in snow condition? I wonder which one would do better in snow.
Nam Nguyen it's more of a Q5 competitor
The audi is much better.
F-Pace is more comparable to Q5, and I drove both. I loved the drive and feel of F-pace. Moreover with 5-year/60000-mile warranty you cannot go wrong.
@@jamesfreedman1680 + all aluminium body...thats mean no rust!
Good gawd, those tires look like nothing at 2:47 that'd be any good whatsoever in show.
These 2L are way too small for a heavy vehicle , I think it's just too much stress for a little engine.
Not a heavy vehicle. With 2.0L turbo it's less than 4000 pounds. That's 500 pounds lighter than my previous sedan.
what! no snow donuts?!
seriously, driving 1 mile/ hour you could be in a yugo on slicks, it would do just as good
It's not bad.
Sry, where is the snow? This is default winter conditions for any AWD/RWD/FWD car ... hm.
and yes subaru has better all wheell drive system.. xdrive is best.
my rav4 2018 could never
Small? Fiat makes a 0.9 litre engine, that's small. Well I guess for American standard it's small
my Honda Odyssey is 1HP more than this.
That's why you get the upgraded version of the Fpace and not the standard one
The F-Pace with the 2.0L turbo weighs less than 4000 pounds. Engine is not a rocket like the 3.0L supercharged, obviously. But still able to move this spacious SUV reasonably quickly.
Only 240 hp? :/
ya advertisement for winter tiers?? yup and yes lame....you guys can do better.
Lame....will stick with me blue 2017 Raptor, will pull you out if need be....just let me know....
The Real JoeyB Dallas Fort Worth Texas USA
When are Americans gonna lean how to say jaguar
Nice vehicle but they dropped the ball on the rim design and tires
Those wheels on the fpace are ugly
I pace would be better
motortrend guys did it last year and jag sucked in that
and compared to a better suited Macan to make Jag look cheap and incapable....do your homework before you throw a half baked story.
Jag or junk? Always get the two confused
ever drove one or just saying becoz you have to talk crap....look up the new product line up and the new JD Power dependability data, you will be surprised.
It's still a piece of crap. It costs to much for it's size and doesn't offer the benefits of similarly price SUVs.
Jaguar provides best in its class 5-year/60000-mile warranty, what else do you want? If you cannot afford it what talk shit about it?
Lucky for you u won't afford one so that's less headache for u
I agree that it costs too much for the quality of materials. But I love driving mine. I hate putting it in my garage and turning the engine off because I just want to keep driving. Really brought back the joy of driving for me.