A FULL DAY IN THE WIND TUNNEL - SPECIALIZED BIKES HQ
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This was Paula's much anticipated trip to the Specialized Win Tunnel in Morgan Hill, California. Paula has gotten a lot of flak for her TT position, despite riding away from the field in Challenge Daytona 2020. We went to the wind tunnel to get every last bit of speed out of the power she's putting out, and came away with about 15 watts of savings overall. Surprisingly there was very little change made, the biggest difference makers being her head position and hand position on the bars. Being fast is about holding the fastest position you can comfortably and without moving, rather than coming up with an unrealistic, but aerodynamically "perfect" position. Paula underwent not only a a standard Retul bike fit but also a metabolic fit to see how her body responded to the different positions from an efficiency standpoint.
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That has got to be the classiest, sickest mullet I’ve ever seen! Please pass along my admiration to that engineer who helped Paula. Small changes towards big wins.
Paula’s power on the bike is already insane. This new position could be the nail in the coffin for an unstoppable bike leg.
Another Brilliant Episode! So cool to see the energy and effort put in from the technical side. What an impressive day Team Specialized served up. This is also the part of a SPONSORSHIP that we often don’t have a chance to see. Thanks for sharing. GO Paula GO!
The improvement of Eric vlogs through the years is incredible!!
Thanks 🙏
Another great video. Well, they all are really. But loved the insight into just how tech our wonderful sport truly is. From wind tunnel testing to aero bars, deep section, or full disc wheels. For those of us old enough to have watched the 1989 tour de France when Greg Lemond chose one disc on the rear, but Lauron Fignon err had both front and back disc which gave Lemond the tour, to now carbon-plated run shoes, err of which I am now getting into as it makes an old man a bit quicker! Utterly mind-bending how much just a centimeter or 2 can make to watts, power, and position. Great video. Stay safe love you guys, see you next week.
... and one last comment: Eric, man, you should absolutely direct a movie!!!!! you are a superb ARTIST
Superb video guys. Eric, your lerning curve will point up forever? Paula, you deserve some olympic medals and some grammys too. lots of fun as always 😀 Keek it up
Lots of technical info which was interesting and looks like some minor adjustments may help but unless I missed something the big takeaway was 'Paula knows Paula' ??
Idk if I'm more impressed in the video quality or in the Eric's time management to make such good stuff and not lose any training day! 😁 Nice cover though. This one hit the nail
Super content; love to see all the technological aspects behind Paula's and Eric's success.
Ha! That was an amazing opening ! Nice job guys
I don’t know Paula but she is fantastic athlete it looks like she is that kind of person that would tell you how it is regarding the situation, unfortunately she put in the position where she’s thankful for sponsorship however they cannot offer a good positioning due to design of tribar angulation and its limitations. I think couple aftermarket parts will set you up just right with a little bit of angulation. But what the hell do I know. Good work Paula and Eric
No you’re not far off. Normally this wouldn’t be so much of an issue, but many aero bars are completely out of stock due to covid, so it’s really hard to find a good solution right now.
Custom is the next step though I think.
The S-Works helmet looks so badass...that alone would boost my power at least 5 watts, lol
Fantastic video! Loved seeing the nuances that go into getting the best TT position. Also, LOVE the new race suit Paula, very spiffy!
Great stuff - great vid - great bike! Go Paula go...
what a good time with you guys ! thanks !!!!!
That’s was so freakin cool, my geeky side loved it. 🔥🔥so cool , fire it up.
Looking forward to following you guys this coming race season :)
Great video, Jesse is an awesome guy
100% amazing human
Eric and Paula thanks a lot for sharing this content as always you guys nailed it cant wait for meet you guys as soon the covid stop blessings for you guys and the best wishes
Our pleasure and see you out there!
Very instructional.....thanks!
Super informative and the captions were very helpful. In addition to the actual 15 watts gained by positioning I would guess that this type of extensive "fit" will give Paula a big psychological boast, at least 50 watts!!
loved it guys, such an eye opener to the finer details of a REAL bike fit
Another winner. There are many videos out there from that tunnel. I think this is the best.
12'27 all the question is here: aerodyamic/metabolic combo.What will be the best for one people will certainly not be the best for an other people.Cause there is science and there is the person.The extended bars are,to my mind,a good exemple.Today,aerodynamic seems to say it is better to have the extended bars havind an up direction .But personnally,i prefer them horizontal.Certainly a little bit less aerodynamic but more confortable and bearable (at level of shoulders for instance).What is interesting is that for a pro (like paula),the question is to adapte a new position (subtil changes but confusing for a person so used to a certain position).What is interesting with the specialist we see here is that they consider this aero/meatabolic to help to take a decision and they do not hesitate to say:numbers say that but take time cause your sensation is primordial too.Anyway,very exciting for an athlete like paula cause it opens new perspectives to gain those precious watts (so seconds) wanted by competitors...I like when technic let a place to human feeling..
I've got couple autographs from Paula from the few ITU races she raced and i attended. I do still like her autograph, so clean and nice!
Sweet episode! The details of the bike fit. So cool.
awesome shots in this video, so jelous you got to do this! it will be very useful for this season for sure
Less than 10seconds in and loving the video.....lol! looks so much fun!
Nice work. It's work that will pay off on the course.
Happy Easter!!!! That was really cool to watch that being done!!! Have a great week an stay safe😁
great vlog right there.. my only problem is that, im loosing on the turtle position coz ive been doing it for the past 7-8 years. i know it works. so i go the expensive route, get an aerohead helmet. haha
Haha whatever you gotta do
oh man!!! this weeks vlog was AWESOME!!!!!!!. This analysis, bike fitting and everything is incredibly cool (I'm an engineer soooo I geek on this kind of things). Great visuals and takes as usual, maybe my top 5 favorite of the channel!
very cool!!! loved the captions Eric
Very high quality video eric. Congrats!
Thanks for the insight using Paula's factual data.... Awesone
🚀🔥🚀 very interesting!
Thanks for sharing your journey with us!
Always inspiring 🤩
Dream team!
super cool episode !!! thanks
Greatest video! Thanks!
That wind tunnel though!
Great opening clip and awesome overall video! Really cool!
Awesome vid. Being that the head tuck/turtle position was 8-12 watts, it’d be really useful if you guys could over over this some more in your next video. What it looks like and how to get there.
Fun stuff. Makes me want to tweak my TT Bike position. 🤙🏽
kudos to the original bike fitter
The wind tunnel sequence at 10 min is just so sick
Eric, you crushed it again. You motivated me to document my own Ironman journey and now that I'm weeks behind with editing I have and even greater appreciation for what you pull off every week.
mega interesting!!
Awesome!! We’re on our way to Bend from the Bay Area right now- any suggestions on coffee shops or must do running trails??
Current favorite is Megaphone 👌
0:14 The two guys on the poster look a bit like Talbot and Lionel. Got me confused for a second.
Great video Eric! Paula can go faster on Zwift now! lol. Kidding.
@10:00 WHAT IS THIS SONG!!!! This is top 10 sequence I've seen in these vids. Love love love
Ok the cinematography shocks me every time
Awesome video team :)
Thanks 🙏
Really nice video. How come Specialized is not selling this S-Works Evade 2 white/balck combo color, looks amazing.
What was the drop in Watts to the Evade? From sworks TT or Giro Aerohead?
I am Certified Retul fitter I have spent a lot of time with Aaron a wonderful human.
Agree, great dude
What’s the song at around the 10 min mark?
is this still filmed on a phone? the quality is amazing! cool style - everything is so relaxed but so pro at the same time
Daaaaamn that music cue in at 10:05 #WeAreTheGood
what about a tailor made skinsuit with maybe longer arms...
that will be some big savings in terms of air drag (in my opinion)
I think they (zoot) are actually working on a custom one as we speak
I use a box fan, and it's just as effective
Great Video 😊
One question: where can I get the computer mount shown on Paulas bike? Looks like you can turn the mount rather than the computer to lock it.?
It comes with the Shiv
I don't think those bars are working at all -- looks very uncomfortable throughout the wrist and not enough vertical extension at the end. At 11:32 you can literally see her index finger hanging over the bar and nothing for her thumbs at all. She needs at least another 5-10cm on the upswing of those bars. I'm betting anything more than about in hour in that position and her arms/wrists are going to be killing her/numb.
She actually prefers the ski tip, but you’re right. She wants them longer. They didn’t have an option with a longer ski tip available, so these were a bit of a stand-in until a custom set (or just a longer option) can be found. Everything is months out with covid and whatnot.
Who sings that song “thats just my attitude”??
we are the good
ok my worthless age grouper opinion. First, Paula is a bad ass professional female athlete and has a wonderful honest personality. She goes mostly on feel, and that is what I love about her. I could tell watching this video, that she really wasn't digging it. I know she is a Professional and watts do matter, but in the end way too many variables and metrics focus on and control. Paula do what you do best !! Happy Easter and kick some butt this year and beyond. E
How long did this process actually take ???
We got there at 9am, left at 8pm
What speed did they have you at for the aero testing?
50kph is the best for testing, I believe. And they were extrapolating the numbers for a theoretical race pace of 42-43 kph. Whatever Paula’s avg speed was at Daytona. I don’t remember off the top of my head
Is it me or was there 2 to 3 minutes of blank vid near the end?
I also had the same...
Yeah oops, we fixed that. Sorry!
I had the same.
You want to add some extra watts? Throw some rim brakes on that thing. #savetherimbrake
Interesting Paula (and so many others) are not willing to try shorter cranks for a better aero fit. So many top pro men have gone shorter cranks, even Lionel rides 165mm. I think woman would have the biggest benefit by dropping crank length in general being a little shorter than men on average.
I think* the counter argument is that it’s hard to prove that anyone has gotten faster going to shorter cranks. Even though it makes sense logically. I’m planning to experiment with it this month, but it’s a hard thing to quantify
@@ThatTriathlonLife that’s awesome, looking forward to hearing how it works out for you. From what I understand going shorter cranks is more about improving your aero position.... it also opens up the hip so often a better aero position may be achieved without sacrificing power. I just also find it hard to believe that guys that are 6’3 have a 2.5mm crank length difference to guys that are 5’8... either tall guys are getting “short end of the stick” or the short guys are?
Great bike , rides smooth ruclips.net/user/postUgkxHL1v1R3NE5x4KiYfyt8dnQmyNYz7qi5L I added a bigger spring loaded seat to it . Takes a bit of adjusting cables to get brakes and shifting to perfect . I've owned quite a few bikes in the past that were absolutely uncomfortable to ride and they always ended up as garage wall decor . I'm not seeing that with this one. It's pretty light I've only ridden it a few miles but I like it . As for the pedals falling off in the other reviews , the pedal arms are aluminum along with the pedal studs look to be also . I would not overtighten them. I can see it would be very easy to overtighten them and strip the threads right off . All in all I think it's pretty good quality besides the aluminum pedal thing
Any changes for Eric on the bike?
I’m just going to produce 20watts more in 2021
@@ThatTriathlonLife Wow that should make a real difference.
Its weird seeing the athletes change bikes. Wasn't Paula trek before? Its definitely nice if they both get the same sponsor because it gets annoyingly frustrating working around what you can and cant do because of different sponsors.
She was with Trek, but we’re very glad to have that in the past. The reason this was such a process was because the original fitter (for the shiv) forgot to write down measurements for the speed concept so the position could be matched. Super frustrating, but I think we’re good now
@@ThatTriathlonLife maybe the original fitter from the shiv didn't provide them because he still hasn't been compensated after numerous requests... Going on 2 months later. If we are being honest and all
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How was the coffee at Specialized?
Nespresso 😂 they only had the tunnel building open, so it was bare essentials haha
@@ThatTriathlonLife Understandable, Nespresso is always there to get everyone out of a bind 😂
I was in a wind tunnel once. Let me just say a long winded fart can change to data. I know because it happened.
She seems frustrated
yep, change can be hard and atitude is key to make it work. TBH she never seemed to be much excited about the Shiv anyway. From AG perspective, it makes you wonder how much Watts one can power through just by riding respective Dream bike- regardles the ergonomics.
@@santosleandro1955 I don’t understand why she was annoyed though.
@@davidkaplan5517 I think fit expectations didn’t came true. Eric is too smart for the chosen soundtrack (as of 10:20) to be jus a coincidence..haha
@@santosleandro1955 what was the song
A couple of things: the tunnel was freezing cold so she was pretty tense. Might sound dumb, but true. Mainly the lack of FULL adjustability (rocker) of the shiv front end is frustrating. Normally wouldn’t be a huge issue, but covid has the options for extensions very limited at the moment.