He's yelling at John Brenkus because that's what he went through and all umpires went through...Every pitch somebody was yelling at him...He's not being a jerk he's just giving John the full experience of being a home plate umpire...
Pbiblueguy3144 finally someone said it was at travel ball game last week and the ump kept calling in where batter was I’m like yo cause he’s standing in very back of the box doesn’t mean the zone changes
Not only that, but catchers frame pitches in order to influence the call. Plus,umpires must have an encyclopedic knowledge of the rules in order to enforce them and to maintain order on the field.
The people calling Jim Evans a 'dick' or whatever crack me up. Jim Evans is one of the most highly regarded umpires in MLB. And until just recently, he trained almost every single umpire in MLB. He'll be nominated to the hall of fame.
Great example so people really know what a professional umpire is and what kind of pressure we handle every game, not everybody can be an umpire or leader that is for sure!!!!
Youre right. To a point. I am an umpire and one of the first things we're taught is that the game isnt about us. But some let their egos get the best of them because they are needed for the game.
it a hard thing to deal with, but I mean if you know you're right and you like doing it its the best... I get yelled at sometimes too but I still love going out there and doing my games lol
I find it pretty easy to umpire without calls getting under my skin. I think about it like this: Im 16, getting yelled at by a washed up 30 year old whose kid sucks at baseball. I laugh that they act like them bitching about a call is gonna change it
@bayoubobby yes he is/was...his saying was "we'll ride you hard but we won't put you up wet." I went to his Academy in Florida in 1999 and loved every minute of it.
Not bashing on the difficulty of the job at all, but they kept saying "300 or 320 split -second decisions" Throw out all the pitches that are swung at, or put in play. Then there are a number of pitches in the dirt or "right down Broadway" that require little if any discernment. Most games have, at most, 50 pitches that really require an eagle-eyed judgment. That's still plenty, and just one could decide a game.
This is true, I'm a high school umpire and we were specifically drilled in having people be asshats to you. The drill was basically us making a call on a play then having a guy grind us down on how "inaccurate" we were, no matter how accurate the call actually was. You gotta have an airtight conviction and an almost arrogant sense of correctness to be a good umpire.
The umpire is trying to look like he is master guru and that his job is super complicated. Well it may be for some, but to bad umpires make a hella lot of bad calls anyway. I still say bring in the computer tech, and use old gramps umpire for a reference call.
@Mordeci819 I took the 5 week course from jim and he is an awesome teacher and he gets you prepared for what you will see when you call games espically in high school and younger where "Little Jimmy" is gonna be a major league star one day.
Not only that, you have already be a good ump before your application is even accepted. You have to be in good physical condition, your equipment must be the best available. After you finish, if you are lucky, you are sent to rookie or independent leagues. The top students go to MLB minors or NCAA Div II or sometimes Div I. After 400 plus games, they might consider you for spring training games, and so on . . . but people at home think the job is easy.
@RedSandStudios Maybe they could limit the amount of replays allowed or somthing. If the call doesn't go in your favor you're out. Sometimes there's just so many bad calls too often. Like that pitcher who lost the perfect game.
i don't watch a lot of baseball so this definitely sheds some new light on the subject. however, NBA refs... there isn't a single one that i would not want to see get hit in the face with a fastball.
As a baseball player, I get how tough it is to umpire a ballgame. All I ask, though, is for consistency in the strike zone...and no calls like Denkinger, Jim Joyce, or Jerry Meals lol
@OrangeManIce Not really Earl Boykins, Nate Robinson, spud webb damon stoudamire I mean there are a few guys under 6' tall. Being tall helps the average height in the nba is 6'7"
Yeah, its the hardest thing to do being behind home plate in a fast pitch game, either baseball or softball. Its not that bad for the slow pitch games, its a breeze while still having pressure due to how many calls you have to make.
the guy that almost threw a perfect game? i assume you mean Armando Galarraga? and it was a play at 1st where the runner was out and Jim Joyce, the ump, called him safe. and i agree that having instant replay for that would have given him a perfect game, but the thing people remember best is the blown call. if they would have gotten it right his perfect game would have been long forgotten. the bad call gave his "perfect game" a unique outcome like none other
Im an umpire, you wouldnt believe the training we go through. The job is tougher then it looks, either way you call it, someone is always angry.. unless its a obvious call. It's fun, but you have to be mentally and physically tough to ump. Tough job.
yeahh that one haha. well, true, that random variable is pretty interesting. As long as they don't take it all the way like soccer. that just kills the game.
Well, if you put your mind to it, I'm sure you can convince the right people to change the traditional classic aspect of the game. In 2008, a survey was done with 200 top MLB players asking about letting a laser machine call balls and strikes, only 3 said it was a good idea. Of all the managers surveyed in the majors, none of them considered that it would be a good ideal. But im sure they games would be very fun having a robot yell out STRIKE.
in other episodes they use 90mph as the speed of the ball. they use 95mph here just to make their point about the ball reaching home plate faster than someone can blink
The sad thing is we live in a place where we take sports so seriously that people can get angry even deadly. I heard of a hockey referee who got shot in the head with a shotgun at his home because of a call he made. I am an umpire and I believe that parents are the worst. Luckily in my league, The coaches are somewhat more respectful and they calm the parents down if it gets to out of hand.
The strike zone tampering was to allow more hits for ratings in a game controlled by defense. Never cared for the 'power hitting' as getting on base wins games.
And another thing thewitness236... do you know Jim Evans? I went to two of his year round clinics. He is not a prick, but a damn good teacher. He knows his shit!
Oh my friend, they do get removed . . . all the time. Every play, every pitch . . . they have someone evaluating their work and it will never be perfect. Umpire academy is no joke either they get drilled there harder than than anywhere else. They have to pay to go too, and it isn't cheap. MLB umps get 94 to 96 percent of the calls right which I think is pretty good. We have 32 HD cameras with supper zoom to thank for making them look bad on the 4 to 6 percent.
Keep your chin up and keep working to get better. That age (10-11) can be very difficult to umpire. Pitchers "loop" pitches in, meaning a pitch that crosses the plate head-high will be caught by the catcher waist-high, giving the impression that you're calling "perfect" pitches balls. Pitchers lack control, catchers set up poorly and catch the ball poorly, etc. Even baserunning calls are tough. Runners slow down or stop, slide poorly. Fielders bobble the ball, make poor tags, etc.
@baseballstar6784 The fact that umpires "make a decesion that is happeniing reaally fast" doesn't refute the argument that they're the most vilified. If anything, it lends credence to the argument, since they have a chance to miss a bunch of those calls. You think players and fans say, "He missed that call, but since it's a close play with fast action, it's okay"? More likely, it's "Get some glasses!" "Why is he getting paid to do this?" And all team sports are probably hard to ref, period.
This is half the reasons fans (including myself) love the game. Nothing like yelling at an umpire, giving him hell the whole game from the stands. And you know he can hear you, especially at a minor league game haha.
alright guys. here's how umpiring works. where the ball crosses the plate is probably the least important part. the most important parts are: (1) where the catcher catches the pitch. (2) where the pitch is suppose to end up. (3) what the count is. (1) if a catcher doesn't frame the ball and try to persuade him, the umpire isn't going to give him the call on a close pitch. catchers have to persuade the umpire to give them close pitches by framing. framing is probably the most important part. (2) umpires will not give calls to pitchers who miss their spots. if a catcher sets up outside for a fastball and the pitcher misses the spot and throws inside, even if the ball catches the corner, he won't call it a strike, because the pitcher made a mistake so he's not going to reward him for it. (3) hitter's count vs pitcher's count. on a hitter's count: the umpire will give close calls to the pitcher to make it fair to both side. the hitter is already ahead and they have to help make the at bat even to both sides. on a pitcher's count: on a count like a 2-2, the umpire will not give the pitcher the low inside corner. but the umpire will give the pitcher the low outside corner. this is meant to keep the game fair because pitches low inside are the hardest to see for the batter and most hitters don't have the ability to see it soon enough and they end up taking the pitch. umpiring is all about making the game fair and the system we have in place now is perfect as it is. professional umpires are all trained exceptionally well and enjoy their jobs. and i have some of the most respect for umpires because there is this secret art of fairness that they've mastered.
i agree with everything except part 1. framing does do a lot with persuading an umpire but ONLY if the umpire is indecisive. the higher level of play, the less indecisive the umpire. if the ball crosses the plate, then most umpires in the majors will call it a strike regardless where the catcher catches it
Peter Van Loon tRiEtHANDTHeKiDD By framing, he means making strikes look more like strikes. Here are a few examples. 1. A hard fastball that is darting down at the knees. If the pitch knicks the bottom of the knee, but the catcher catches the ball with a downward motion, and his momentum takes his glove into the dirt, that will be called a ball. In this situation, both dugouts see the catchers glove moving into the dirt, making it look low. 2. Same pitch, but the catcher turns his glove upside down to catch the ball. This will also be called a ball, because according to both benches, the ball was too low for the catcher to field cleanly. 3.Same pitch, but the catcher is able to position his glove as if it was a pitch at the belt, and he "sticks" the pitch (meaning his glove does not move downwards after the ball is caught, that will be called a strike because it "looks" like a strike to everybody watching the pitch. As an umpire, if any of the first 2 examples occur in a game, I immediately tell my catcher that if he can "stick that pitch" I will give it to the pitcher. They usually adjust accordingly, which makes for more strikes and for the game to move along more smoothly. A lot of people think this method is unfair and was created by umpires, but this could not be further from the truth. Most new umpires will call all 3 pitches strikes regardless of where it is caught or how it is "framed", but coaches will give the umpire an earfull from the dugouts when they call the first 2 examples strikes. With more experience, the umpire will begin to know "what the COACHES" think look like strikes, meaning the UMPIRES are forced to adjust to the COACHES view of what a strike should look like.
Greg Francavilla thank you for explaining what framing is even tho everyone who seems to be commenting has the general idea........kinda just typed 44 lines for the fuck of it, didnt ya?
He's yelling at John Brenkus because that's what he went through and all umpires went through...Every pitch somebody was yelling at him...He's not being a jerk he's just giving John the full experience of being a home plate umpire...
Remember Kids.. It's where the ball crosses the plate. NOT where the catcher catch's it !.. Surprised they didn't go into that !
Pbiblueguy3144 finally someone said it was at travel ball game last week and the ump kept calling in where batter was I’m like yo cause he’s standing in very back of the box doesn’t mean the zone changes
Not only that, but catchers frame pitches in order to influence the call. Plus,umpires must have an encyclopedic knowledge of the rules in order to enforce them and to maintain order on the field.
The people calling Jim Evans a 'dick' or whatever crack me up. Jim Evans is one of the most highly regarded umpires in MLB. And until just recently, he trained almost every single umpire in MLB. He'll be nominated to the hall of fame.
I just met him last week. Unbelievably knowledgeable guy, has some of the craziest stories youll ever hear too. People are dumb lol
Great example so people really know what a professional umpire is and what kind of pressure we handle every game, not everybody can be an umpire or leader that is for sure!!!!
Luis Alvarado We?
Luis Alvarado We?
***** wewewe
Still no excuse to mess up its their job so don't blame managers players and basically everyone else for yelling at umps
he prolly ump sunday league
"There's over 300 pitches in a game, and you're expected to get every single one of them right."
God, that sucks.
Greg Gibson. The home plate umpire. Motioning to both players....
Ha
I literally clicked on this vid to comment that
And the Dodgers celebrating in their dugout... Wait this is not MLB
Tyler Michaels Lol
Can we put angel hernandez in there to determine if he should be fired which in all likelihood he will be if he does this
And cb bucknor
There has to be a couple pitches a game where they are just guessing.
out of 300
Where's Greg Gibson the home plate umpire?
He's motioning to both players.
+Николай «Mik» Михайлов as the dogers are celebrating in their bench
Love this comment and the replies, what a reference!
Great video
Youre right. To a point. I am an umpire and one of the first things we're taught is that the game isnt about us. But some let their egos get the best of them because they are needed for the game.
The MLB umpire sounds like Dr. Phil when he's yelling
I remember similar drills like this when I attended the Jim Evans Academy of Professional Umpiring in 1993 in Florida. Awesome Memories.
i'd hate to be an ump....they hear it, from fans, players and coaches.
it a hard thing to deal with, but I mean if you know you're right and you like doing it its the best... I get yelled at sometimes too but I still love going out there and doing my games lol
seems like the most thankless job in the world. you're universally hated before the game even starts
I find it pretty easy to umpire without calls getting under my skin. I think about it like this: Im 16, getting yelled at by a washed up 30 year old whose kid sucks at baseball. I laugh that they act like them bitching about a call is gonna change it
he is showing what umpires go through. And proving how important every little thing they do is.
love this show
I love this show
@makebelieve35 It says the first change in the strike zone was in 1969. From 1887 to 1969 is almost 100 years, but certainly not over.
One of the most intense Sports Science segments to date....
LOL! Man, I can't stop laughing. The guy says,,ball??? Like he asking for permission! Respect Umpires people. It's not A easy job!
yeah lol. I love how Jim just rips into him. I've been to one of his camps and I sure know what that's like.
I'm glad sports science did this, I umpire a lot and its not as easy as it looks.
OMG!!!! being and umpire is really hard!!!!
Maybe this will show our view and what we see and hear.
I checked one school, it cost over $2000 to attend, not including transportation and equipment. FYI, That school did not accept Ch. 30 of the GI Bill.
I'm sensing some resentment from our friend the ump.
I am from Milwaukee and we just swept you haha YEAH MAN!!!!!
I umpired for over twenty years. It was a blast. I quit the year that it stopped being fun.
@bayoubobby yes he is/was...his saying was "we'll ride you hard but we won't put you up wet." I went to his Academy in Florida in 1999 and loved every minute of it.
Not bashing on the difficulty of the job at all, but they kept saying "300 or 320 split -second decisions" Throw out all the pitches that are swung at, or put in play. Then there are a number of pitches in the dirt or "right down Broadway" that require little if any discernment. Most games have, at most, 50 pitches that really require an eagle-eyed judgment. That's still plenty, and just one could decide a game.
At 5:25 I was laughing my ass off because he automatically said "strike" to sound smart haha
4:13 how does that knuckle ball just go straight?
whens the baseball at its fast point...from release or gains speed the slows down? I need an aswer....
Be STRONG, John.
That umpire is pissing me off
yea it may be tough but thats why they are also the best at what they do
It's obviously always different depending on the pitch speed.
I'm an umpire for junior high league and that's exactly how it feels even for that age
hahahaha 2:18 was funny as hell and even I flinched because of laughter
we got a badass over here !
3:35 "You get in the proper angle, proper distance... You should be able to see the ball and call it.... Properly.
This is true, I'm a high school umpire and we were specifically drilled in having people be asshats to you. The drill was basically us making a call on a play then having a guy grind us down on how "inaccurate" we were, no matter how accurate the call actually was. You gotta have an airtight conviction and an almost arrogant sense of correctness to be a good umpire.
i think catchers should wear some kinda helmet cam in the mlb.. idk about u guys but i think thatd be awesome!
The umpire is trying to look like he is master guru and that his job is super complicated. Well it may be for some, but to bad umpires make a hella lot of bad calls anyway. I still say bring in the computer tech, and use old gramps umpire for a reference call.
been an umpire, the game is crisp at the top but every call is fast, tight, and close. no room for error... takes as much command as skill!
@barfmaster1987 what year did you go to JEAPU? 1999 here....
I'm about to be a little leage umpire, wish me luck
@Mordeci819 I took the 5 week course from jim and he is an awesome teacher and he gets you prepared for what you will see when you call games espically in high school and younger where "Little Jimmy" is gonna be a major league star one day.
the umpire variable still keeps the game way more exciting
Not only that, you have already be a good ump before your application is even accepted. You have to be in good physical condition, your equipment must be the best available. After you finish, if you are lucky, you are sent to rookie or independent leagues. The top students go to MLB minors or NCAA Div II or sometimes Div I. After 400 plus games, they might consider you for spring training games, and so on . . . but people at home think the job is easy.
He's pretty good at it. He runs a 5-week camp for aspiring professional umpires. Getting in people's face about umpiring is what he does best.
@RedSandStudios Maybe they could limit the amount of replays allowed or somthing. If the call doesn't go in your favor you're out. Sometimes there's just so many bad calls too often. Like that pitcher who lost the perfect game.
This ump is hilarious!
In one sport science episode, they said it took 500 milliseconds to get the the plate, in another they said it was 485, and in this one its 395?
@glinxz the release of the ball is when the ball is the fastest
i don't watch a lot of baseball so this definitely sheds some new light on the subject. however, NBA refs... there isn't a single one that i would not want to see get hit in the face with a fastball.
As a baseball player, I get how tough it is to umpire a ballgame. All I ask, though, is for consistency in the strike zone...and no calls like Denkinger, Jim Joyce, or Jerry Meals lol
Im a Jays fan this is so true
How to not blink: pretend the baseball is a weeping angel. Only doctor who fans will understand
Trye
+RaRe Headhunt true*
Almost always right
@OrangeManIce Not really Earl Boykins, Nate Robinson, spud webb damon stoudamire I mean there are a few guys under 6' tall. Being tall helps the average height in the nba is 6'7"
Yeah, its the hardest thing to do being behind home plate in a fast pitch game, either baseball or softball. Its not that bad for the slow pitch games, its a breeze while still having pressure due to how many calls you have to make.
finally, people understand our problems
the guy that almost threw a perfect game? i assume you mean Armando Galarraga? and it was a play at 1st where the runner was out and Jim Joyce, the ump, called him safe. and i agree that having instant replay for that would have given him a perfect game, but the thing people remember best is the blown call. if they would have gotten it right his perfect game would have been long forgotten. the bad call gave his "perfect game" a unique outcome like none other
Im an umpire, you wouldnt believe the training we go through. The job is tougher then it looks, either way you call it, someone is always angry.. unless its a obvious call. It's fun, but you have to be mentally and physically tough to ump. Tough job.
yeaaaaa man, go Nats!!
yeahh that one haha. well, true, that random variable is pretty interesting. As long as they don't take it all the way like soccer. that just kills the game.
Well, if you put your mind to it, I'm sure you can convince the right people to change the traditional classic aspect of the game. In 2008, a survey was done with 200 top MLB players asking about letting a laser machine call balls and strikes, only 3 said it was a good idea. Of all the managers surveyed in the majors, none of them considered that it would be a good ideal. But im sure they games would be very fun having a robot yell out STRIKE.
in other episodes they use 90mph as the speed of the ball. they use 95mph here just to make their point about the ball reaching home plate faster than someone can blink
Did YOU make it as a player??
@baseballstar6784 what about a hockey ref. the play is moving a lot faster than baseball.
what happened to 90 mph fastballs
The sad thing is we live in a place where we take sports so seriously that people can get angry even deadly. I heard of a hockey referee who got shot in the head with a shotgun at his home because of a call he made. I am an umpire and I believe that parents are the worst. Luckily in my league, The coaches are somewhat more respectful and they calm the parents down if it gets to out of hand.
haha I have taken some pretty monsterous bruises back behind the plate, but its all int he love of the game!
The strike zone tampering was to allow more hits for ratings in a game controlled by defense. Never cared for the 'power hitting' as getting on base wins games.
That rule change in '88 bringing the top of the strikezone down sucks. Should be from the letters on the uniform to the bottom of the knee.
i wish i could have taken the crash course
The stick with a ball on the end of it that Jim Evans used to point at things looked like some sort of sex toy
And another thing thewitness236... do you know Jim Evans? I went to two of his year round clinics. He is not a prick, but a damn good teacher. He knows his shit!
that episode said it was a 90 mph not a 95 mph ball
as a catcher I don't blink at pitches
Oh my friend, they do get removed . . . all the time. Every play, every pitch . . . they have someone evaluating their work and it will never be perfect. Umpire academy is no joke either they get drilled there harder than than anywhere else. They have to pay to go too, and it isn't cheap. MLB umps get 94 to 96 percent of the calls right which I think is pretty good. We have 32 HD cameras with supper zoom to thank for making them look bad on the 4 to 6 percent.
Keep your chin up and keep working to get better. That age (10-11) can be very difficult to umpire. Pitchers "loop" pitches in, meaning a pitch that crosses the plate head-high will be caught by the catcher waist-high, giving the impression that you're calling "perfect" pitches balls. Pitchers lack control, catchers set up poorly and catch the ball poorly, etc. Even baserunning calls are tough. Runners slow down or stop, slide poorly. Fielders bobble the ball, make poor tags, etc.
It's soo funny when the guy makes the wrong call
"Hey Coach... I'm doing my best. If either of us were as good as we think we are, neither of us would be in a 5th grade game."
Umpires got to chill big time.
Yah....Wilson West Vest Charcoal! Best CP ever!
@26mckayb i play baseball and i love it but its more like half that around 90
No offence to John in this but it wasn't that hard to tell if it was a ball or strike I was testing myself and I got it write every time.
@baseballstar6784 The fact that umpires "make a decesion that is happeniing reaally fast" doesn't refute the argument that they're the most vilified. If anything, it lends credence to the argument, since they have a chance to miss a bunch of those calls. You think players and fans say, "He missed that call, but since it's a close play with fast action, it's okay"? More likely, it's "Get some glasses!" "Why is he getting paid to do this?" And all team sports are probably hard to ref, period.
lol the ex-umpire released all the frustration that was dished to him unto the show host
This is half the reasons fans (including myself) love the game. Nothing like yelling at an umpire, giving him hell the whole game from the stands. And you know he can hear you, especially at a minor league game haha.
I always wonder what the public reaction would have been if the player would have been out . . . and Jim Joyce would have called him safe?
i think jim was enjoying that way to much
Looked like the same umpire when they showed playbacks of umpires being hit in the face
Poor umpires...I can't believe Chavez swung at that
alright guys. here's how umpiring works.
where the ball crosses the plate is probably the least important part.
the most important parts are: (1) where the catcher catches the pitch. (2) where the pitch is suppose to end up. (3) what the count is.
(1) if a catcher doesn't frame the ball and try to persuade him, the umpire isn't going to give him the call on a close pitch. catchers have to persuade the umpire to give them close pitches by framing. framing is probably the most important part.
(2) umpires will not give calls to pitchers who miss their spots. if a catcher sets up outside for a fastball and the pitcher misses the spot and throws inside, even if the ball catches the corner, he won't call it a strike, because the pitcher made a mistake so he's not going to reward him for it.
(3) hitter's count vs pitcher's count. on a hitter's count: the umpire will give close calls to the pitcher to make it fair to both side. the hitter is already ahead and they have to help make the at bat even to both sides. on a pitcher's count: on a count like a 2-2, the umpire will not give the pitcher the low inside corner. but the umpire will give the pitcher the low outside corner. this is meant to keep the game fair because pitches low inside are the hardest to see for the batter and most hitters don't have the ability to see it soon enough and they end up taking the pitch.
umpiring is all about making the game fair and the system we have in place now is perfect as it is. professional umpires are all trained exceptionally well and enjoy their jobs. and i have some of the most respect for umpires because there is this secret art of fairness that they've mastered.
i agree with everything except part 1. framing does do a lot with persuading an umpire but ONLY if the umpire is indecisive. the higher level of play, the less indecisive the umpire. if the ball crosses the plate, then most umpires in the majors will call it a strike regardless where the catcher catches it
Peter Van Loon tRiEtHANDTHeKiDD By framing, he means making strikes look more like strikes. Here are a few examples.
1. A hard fastball that is darting down at the knees. If the pitch knicks the bottom of the knee, but the catcher catches the ball with a downward motion, and his momentum takes his glove into the dirt, that will be called a ball. In this situation, both dugouts see the catchers glove moving into the dirt, making it look low.
2. Same pitch, but the catcher turns his glove upside down to catch the ball. This will also be called a ball, because according to both benches, the ball was too low for the catcher to field cleanly.
3.Same pitch, but the catcher is able to position his glove as if it was a pitch at the belt, and he "sticks" the pitch (meaning his glove does not move downwards after the ball is caught, that will be called a strike because it "looks" like a strike to everybody watching the pitch.
As an umpire, if any of the first 2 examples occur in a game, I immediately tell my catcher that if he can "stick that pitch" I will give it to the pitcher. They usually adjust accordingly, which makes for more strikes and for the game to move along more smoothly.
A lot of people think this method is unfair and was created by umpires, but this could not be further from the truth. Most new umpires will call all 3 pitches strikes regardless of where it is caught or how it is "framed", but coaches will give the umpire an earfull from the dugouts when they call the first 2 examples strikes. With more experience, the umpire will begin to know "what the COACHES" think look like strikes, meaning the UMPIRES are forced to adjust to the COACHES view of what a strike should look like.
Greg Francavilla thank you for explaining what framing is even tho everyone who seems to be commenting has the general idea........kinda just typed 44 lines for the fuck of it, didnt ya?
+tRiEtHANDTHeKiDD I don't watch baseball, I hardly know jack about it lol.
Jaydon Tobler is a crack head writing this much
did you see the pitches he was arguing about? 6 inches off the plate...
I must of heard it wrong, did they say they we brought in Jim Evans or Satan?
It was pretty clear where all those pitches were, how john brenkus called that one a strike when it was about a foot outside is beyond me