@@Joe_Friday I'm a 1st year reservist. To be honest, I don't think the north is an issue anymore barring nukes and civilian damage if war breaks out. Problem is neighbors like China, and the fact that the bar of entry to enter active-duty service is getting lower because of the population problem. Like in the 1980s, only about 30% of all males were conscripted to active-duty, meaning infantry was made up solely of the toughest, most athletic and sharpest dudes. The rest would be conscripted and do desk-jobs or civil service instead. An example of this is that until 1990 it was pretty much impossible for you to be in infantry if you even wore glasses. When I got out of service in 2020, they lowered the entry bar because they couldn't fill the TOs anymore... So more and more guys who just aren't physically and mentally together are getting put into combat roles. To be frank, I wouldn't trust some of these new conscripts with a pair of scissors, let alone war equipment...
First of all, thank you for posting a good video. I served in the Republic of Korea Air Force for a period of 2015-2017. In the case of the Army, the latest rifles were supplied, but it was difficult for the Air Force to find the K2 in departments except military police, and I also used the M16A1 rifle until I was discharged from the military.
In active service right now and very much appreciate seeing roka featured on the channel! Maybe you can make a video on the Korean army's field artillery next since it is the army's primary focus in research/funding. Anyways, great video as always and look forward to seeing more no matter the subject!
For Mountain Recon Squad machinegunner is replaced with squad marksman, armed with K2C1 fitted with 6x scope and K3s are given to Platoon HQ squad as for the fireteams, it varies from unit to unit Rifle squads who operate in Western front is not likely to utilize fireteam, as for me who served in Eastern front, out platoon did utilize fireteam structure
Interesting. Do you think this has to do with the west being more flat, and the east being more mountainous, or is it just a 'cultural' paradigm that has nothing to do with terrain?
@@wgoulding It definitely has to do with terrain Just like you said, West line is relatively flat while East line (which is under jurisdiction of 2nd, 3rd, and 8th Corps) is very mountainous Fireteams are essential in mountain warfare, as mobilizing 8men unit as a whole is very difficult
Our platoon also using fireteam structure. But we just have 6 or 5, sometime even 4 member on squad. LT want to focus on platoon fire support team, so we complete organized Grenadiers and MG, but there are no rifleman and assistant gunner
@@abbc5156 well korean mountain is very different from rocky mountains in afghan, its more suited towards jungle warfare they do teach that in Sniper school, but from what I experienced 600m is more than enough in our mountains
Even though I am a reserve soldier now, I am reminded of military life, but after shooting training, I unconditionally pick up a cartridge case. Of course, this is to prevent the illegal use of live ammunition (improper use of live ammunition inevitably leads to fatal accidents). So, when I was in the military, one cartridge case disappeared and then everything stopped and I remember doing everything I could to find the cartridge case.
I would love to see a look at Australia's 3 multirole brigades (a multirole brigade is supposed to be able to change between mechanised, motor, or light infantry depending on what is needed).
@@sam8742 except we are an island nation whom has only really been threatened once in WWII. So most of the money goes to the airforce and navy (F35s, Loyal Wingman project, Canberra Class, Hobart Class, Hunter Class, oh and don't forget the money pit that is the Attack Class Sub). At least now the army is properly equipped as an expeditionary force which is how it had been deployed over the past 100 years.
@@Taiko-THC349 I thought it has hence the Land400 project to replace all the APCs with either German or south Korean IFVs along with the purchase of a few dozen more M1 Abrams.
Ah, III corps in the east. From the order of battle I have from 2018, it's just listed as a line infantry division, as does wikipedia. Do you guys get mountain training that the guys in, say, I or VI Corps wouldn't?
@@wgoulding yes, the official designation would be just 3rd Army Corps but it is the only Corps that consists of infantry divisions dedicated for Mountain warfare, like the 12th and 21st Div its semi-official title is also the “Mountain Corps” The motto of 12th Div was “Spearhead of our fatherland, Shield of our mountains”
I was a M60 assist gunner early in 2000. carrying extra barrel and accessory bag. the case was already rare as most of front line units recieved K3 as squad automatic weapon. only 2nd line units and armor units had M60s. My unit transfered from 4 squad structure to 3 squad structure just before my conscription, so they had old legacy of Weapon squad and weapon platoon. so the machine gun training was based on 3 people, gunner/assist gunner/ammo man. we also had tripods for M60s, but no one assigned and no training for it. my brigade was merged with the nearby ID who uses K3s, so I think the warthogs were moathballed.
Thx you for good military contents, now im sereved as a marine corps officer in ROK Marine Corps, I want to you mount subtitles in your contents, that makes more easier to understand your contents who see your contents from non-english culture person, thank you
The need for an assistant gunner on light-machine guns depends partially on the LMG itself. For example, you fire 600 rounds with an MG3 and you wont see anything after that. Because the heat rising from the barrel will obscure your sights. Therefor it becomes easier to be guided by someone next to the weapon. Then you have the aspect of optics. Weapon optics are costly, regular binoculars are less so, but often also have higher magnification and it therefor makes sense to have a secondary guy only use them and guide the fire. - You swap the MG3 to a SAW however and add an acog or similar optics on it and you dont need that, but then again you have less impact at range.
If you're firing 600 rounds in a real firefight continously enough to make heat haze obscure your sight picture that much then whether or not you have an assistant gunner is the least of your problems.
@@SunTzuSeeYou The heat issue stars allot earlier on calibers over 5,56. Its also worse during the winter and this notion 600 rounds is allot is something none shock troops would say....
@@Lobos222 I'm not saying shooting 600 rounds in a firefight is a lot. I'm saying shooting 600 rounds that rapidly from a LMG is a lot and that means you're in real bad situation. Guess, it depends on doctrine. When I was a rifleman in Afghanistan, our squad tactics involved our SAW gunner firing a string of bursts and then maneuvering along with the rest of the squad. They didn't have optics and their barrel never got hot enough for it to be a problem, even in really intense engagements. But yes, I can see how a GPMG like the MG3 would have that problem, especially since the Germans love to use their machine guns as a base of fire in which the squad maneuvers around, not with.
If you've fired 600 rounds without switching barrels you're doing something wrong. That's one reason why you have a quick change barrel in the first place.
Gender inequality in the workplace lowers birthrates? Some say more and more women working full time jobs or choosing careers over being stay at home moms has lowered birth rates in many Western countries at least.
Well, being a stay-at-home and being dependent on your spouse's money for pretty much everything is not liked Having a job does not necessarily mean lower fertility. It's a bit more complicated.
First, Thanks for the great Vid! Army conscription has escalated more and more into a social issue nowadays in Korea. I myself has finished my conscription duties, and here's what I know so far. Now, the army conscription ratio of Korea is surpassed 90%, which is even more than the conscription rate of Japan in WW2. The quantity and quality of army food has decreased(or is the same) inspite of the Ministry of Defense's 'efforts' for improvement. South Korean men are conscripted into the army regardless of serious physical/mental condition, and they receive approximately 400$ a month with poor living standards. Even more, the men are not served with proper treatment or compensation if a serious injury occurs during their service. When a private lost his foot by a north korean landmine in 2017, he did not receive proper compentation - but an ankle-shaped statue, which obviously does not make up for his loss. These phenomenons made young korean men depict army conscription as 'not worth the effort', 'avoid if you can', or even '21th century slave labor'. A sense of deprivation has naturally into Korean men in their 20~30s because of these issues. The Korean government has not made any notable efforts to compensate their 18 month long service, while their women counterparts get jobs and go into society far earlier. This combined with the ever increasing army conscription ratio has made these generations despise the ROK military even more, which is depicted in the saying 'When the army calls, you're their son. If you get out of the army with injuries, you're not their son anymore.' The decrease of army personnel due to low fertility rates is showing its impact even in this moment, but I personally think there is no hope of improvement for the next 3~5 years. Living conditions for young citizens have deteriorated in the past few years and fertility rates have remained a record low for the past 5 years. Revising the Rifle squad personnel can be a temporary solution, but a complete overhaul of Korea's army conscription system is the one and ultimate solution.
"After the modernization, the squad will not have reservists in them" Looks at Generation Kill reservists Yeah, I can see why this might make the unit better...
Just to correct one tiny thing, Reservists are (almost) always SGT-but I do like to translate them as Senior Specialists since they aren't NCOs-since they switch to reserves after they finish their conscription. Other than that, it's pretty accurate and good job on this video.
My first duty station was Camp Humphreys,Pyeongtaek South Korea. I was there for 1 year and 2 months and I tell you the Katusas and Koreans I fought and worked with are hardened men.
4:02 despite its cancellation, the K11 was one of two of that type of over-under airburst assault weapons to go into mass production in recent times, as well as getting farther in development than the OICW. The other was the QTS-11, used by Chinese special forces in large numbers as of 2011.
having a section Gunner carry all of his own ammunition is absolute suicide and screams of further corruption. 1 man cannot carry enough ammunition for a machine gun in heavy combat. How ever conveniently limiting the ammunition per squad to what 1 person can carry is cheaper. Each belt weighs 2.5kg. On an soldier carrying 15kg of essential gear and armour. The max a gunner can carry in sustained combat is 800 rounds (20kg). No one is running more then half a kilometre with 35kg. With a section of 10 at 15m spacing. If that gunner is tail end charlie. He’s running 150 meters every time they come under contract. At 1 round per second in combat. You’re only talking about a firepower potential of 13 minutes per squad. Compared to regular doctrine of every man in a section carries 1 belt. Your sustained firepower can go from 13 minutes to 30 minutes. I which can be life or death against an overwhelming force. It’s lucky these ninjas are trained in hand to hand combat.
Agree with you - HMG teams were always 3 dudes in my military. I'm surprised they went with 1 HMG, rather than 2 LMGs. Also, no anti-tank weaponry? Or is that a platoon team?
@@wnose The K3 is already an LMG, its modeled after the Minimi and shoots 5.56. As for AT, that is almost assuredly a platoon or company level provision. Additionally these are often matters that vary from unit to unit, and I'm actually slightly surprised the video didn't go into this, even if only in passing, as many other videos do mention this and go into some detail about the weapons and possible distribution of them.
@@LawL_LawL Realistically, the AT weapons we carried would barely dent a modern tank, so I understand if the Koreans decided not to deploy it. But it's still useful for other purposes though.
@@wnose As far as I know, SK army does not have HMGs in common infantry divisions. Anything that has bigger caliber than 5.56 or 7.62 is always mounted on vehicles of mechanized infantry brigades or ships. They also have AT weapons like recoiless guns, Pzf 3, korean copies of M72Law and javelin, but are very rare. These AT squads or platoons only exist under battalion command and above. So common infantry soldiers have never even seen those except in museums. This is not the US army, don't think too highly of SK's conscripted army:)
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As a Korean officer doing R&D for the future of the military, I must note we are also looking at 4-man(!!) squads with quad-bike sized UGV support for mech infantry in the future. I'm not very optimistic about the future tbh. I feel despondent at times because of the "writing on the wall" as westerners say.
Korean army Infantry tactics are based on heavy firesupport from artillery or mortar. So rifle squad don't need to big Instead, they place a lot of companies which can easily cover and hold wide area. And much of operation territories are mountain area so they don't need a big squad instead they cover wide area with enough rifle squad and firesupport companies. Furthermore most of Frontline divisions are completely deployed but non-front line divisions are basically territory control like state defense forces so those divs don't need to be heavily and completely armed so most of non-frontline divs has a lot of reserve forces deployment and most of them are reserve forces that don't need to be a heavily armed with newest weapons. Cuz main object is civilian and territory control. so non Frontline state defense division has more smaller firesquad then front divs. they're armed with 2nd line arms & gears which you said like basic k2s and even m16a1s.
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You know when I was over there I remember think the ROK Army was a pretty good fighting force but I didn't really under stand their structure.. their reservist got a lot of crap.. but when I got to Kuwait seeing the Kuwaiti Army and later dealing with the Iraqi NG I remember thinking wow how much more professional and nicer it was to work with the ROKA.. I miss them
Yea, the old way seems stupid. We do it the new method in Singapore. Reservists form their own organic units and are mobilised and deployed separately. Although I think there may be a cache of regulars to facilitate. But even the senior officers are reservists.
3:58 Procurement of new night vision goggle from L3Harris only applies to special forces unit. Special Forces from the Army and the Navy use GPNVG-18 as part of the enhancement of equipment in Spec Ops Unit. Some AN/PVS-31 were also aquired for the Navy. Generally, the regular forces use domestically developed PVS-04K which the performance is equivalent to U.S made AN/PVS-14, however the early model of PVS-04K were totally useless as they adopted French made PHOTONIS lens, after the complaint from the users, they replaced the lens with L3Harris tubes.
8:27 We did a big training event with the ROKA forces at this training site. The "Enemy" even dresses up as North Koreans with tan uniforms and helmets. 5:37 My platoon was held up in those buildings for 2 days fighting wave after wave of Koreans it was definitely the best training event I've ever done. A lot of respect to the Koreans forces for inviting my Company to attend.
I was in infantry officer basic course with a S. Korean lieutenant. He was awesome. Great attitude, humble, hard working, fucking awesome guy. If they're cutting down the size of the army and restructuring the squads, they're good as long as they don't let standards slip. Also, I think the standing army of the relatively smaller country is MASSIVE compared to the standing army of the United States. I think there's like 1 million service members across all military branches, but something like half of that is U.S. Army (the largest branch). That's out of 300 million people. So for S. Korea to have 350k standing army is crazy. No wonder people are up in arms about conscription. BUT I also went to basic training with 2 S. Korean privates who signed onto the U.S. Army because they said bonuses were better, and they had gotten a deal where they could serve in Korea. So I know there's a lot of that going on.
May be you can discuss about ROK army reformation program as a related story of this video. ROKA has disassmebled its stongest 20th Mech division last year because of decreasing human resources That was a serious event for Korean army and they are gonna disassemble their whole divisions into brigades Eventually, ROK is going to have armored and Mech brigades in the future.
L3's new night vision PVS-31K is only introduced for ROK Navy UDT/SEAL The Army tried to replace the NVG phosphor with L3s because of problems with the phosphor in their monocular night vision, but was cancelled because the Defense Acquisition Program Administration did not understand the need.
As a korean army reserve, I want to say that the korean army has been severly corrupted from it's inside. Believe it or not, korean people and the press recognizes the korean military very negatively due to their brutal acts against soldiers in mandatory service, or their policy direction to a meaningless promotion. The video shows K2C1 as a standard issue rifle, but more than 95% of korean soldiers are still using a 30 year old K2 rifle. When I was in service, I was supplied with a canteen which was manufactured in 1968(not joking). The korean army is not interested in advancing their combat abilities. They are just focusing on promoting their military for additional funding from it's government.
Typical Korean style of administration. They never see the forest but only a tree. ROKA should be prepared for the warfare against chinese army instead of north Korea. All they care is having turf wars against each other and secure the promotions.
for real, everyone in the comments is talking about the new rifles and NODS and all this readiness shit, when all that shit is simply not true at all! the ROKA leadership sucked, the infantry dudes had no concept of noise and light discipline, and their equipment was old as shit! like, how are you gonna mount NODS reliably on an old ass m1 style helmet?
Don't worry too much about it, most militaries fluctuate and adjust when they need to. Most armies aren't on south Korea's level. I've been hearing stories since I was a kid about the south Korean military. From my grandpa who fought in the Korean war, Vietnam vets in my neighborhood, and from soldiers in the military after I joined. They all said the same thing. Korea has some of the best soldiers in the world.
@@sleepingninjaquiettime Good to know that we aren't forgotten as much as I thought we were! Also, I'd like to thank your grandpa for his service in the defense of my country and yours in whichever military your serve or served in.
Oh my god their MILES system actually fucking works! Our units in the SAF could've used that back in 2011 rather than the "airsoft honor system" with the damn umpires hahaha
I'm a reserve officer who served as platoon leader for two years. I used to work in the front line, my platoon was always short of the number stipulated in ROKarmy tactics, and I always had to worry about the number of guards. What surprised me after I was discharged from the army was the situation in the rear. There were only two to four men in a squad, and most of the troops were reservists. Many Korean men are overconfident in the capabilities of the Korean reserve forces, but frankly I don't believe in them. Even I, who became an officer because I wanted to be a soldier, have become much more dull now, and I think they are probably in a more serious condition than me. In fact, when I went to reserve training, most of them forgot their combat skills, and some of them got fat and couldn't wear combat uniforms. Fortunately, the situation in the North Korean military is worse than ours and I don't think we'll lose, but I'm still worried about this. Even you, who were not Korean soldiers, seem to know about this, so I'm more worried.
How does the reserve officer pipeline work in ROK ? In my pov modern militaries should be organised different than how they are (considering the active duty - reserve system but also training). Especially in cases like germany or south korea although i have to admit that i don`t know enough about korean geography, population density and where units are stationed/how barracks life works to speak on it there. Greedings from germany.
@@mrd7067 All officers of the Korean military will belong to the reserve forces after being discharged from the military. And they have to participate in training for about three days a year until their sixth year of discharge. Usually, they have different jobs at this age, and even if they take a day off because of this training, their co-workers seem to understand. The training that reserve officers receive depends on the unit they were assigned to. And usually, they are tasked with educating or leading reserve forces. We only receive training until the sixth year, but we don't quit the reserve forces mission. Since the number of reserve officers is not so many, each class will be assigned to the reserve forces up to a set age. For example, I will be promoted to reserve captain next year, and I will be in the reserve forces until the age of 43. My English is not good, so I couldn't fully grasp your question. I'm not sure if this is the answer you want.
@@KsS416 It partly answered it. I meant more how are officers recruted ? From among the enlisted or directly from the street and trained seperatly ? How long is their military training as well as time active in a leadership position ? You pretty much answered what they do when in the reserve and how long. From what i understand the ROK military follows the US training model. I thought your reserve might follow the US model too (one weekend a month and 2-4 weeks a year training time). It might be the optimum for 12 years "active reserve" (or Reserve I) after the active duty time. 3 days a year would you only give time for the most basic qualifications in the german military, if even that (just enough time for refresher training in first aid, NBC [nuclear, biological, chemical] training and a trip to the shooting range). Thanks for your time.
@@mrd7067 The method of recruiting officers is similar to that of the United States. You can graduate from a military academy, take ROTC or OCS courses at a general university, or apply for an officer course while working as a private. Usually, they serve as active military officers for as short as two years or more, and if they are discharged from the military, they automatically become reserve officers. What happens after that is the same as the previous comment I posted. Since they have already received at least six months of training described by you in the course of military schools or ROTC, three days of training per year after becoming a reserve force is sufficient. Because it's not their first time learning this. Perhaps if what I understand is correct, you mistook the reserve officer for being trained on the street like the game 'The Division' agents. Not only officers but also all reserve forces must serve in the military for at least two years. Reserve forces are automatically deployed after they are discharged from the military, and they are not soldiers, but ordinary civilians, so they have to focus on their work. That's why they only receive training for such a short period of time. I hope my answer is what you wanted.
@@mrd7067 I don't know how to do it in other countries, but all Korean reserve forces are made up of retired soldiers. (Army, Air Force, Marine, Navy, Special Forces, whatever) We are conscripted, so most men served in the military, and the number of reserve forces is huge because they are all reserve forces. But what I'm worried about is that their expertise seems to be inferior to the U.S. military, and the number of soldiers is decreasing recently as the population decreases, and we still have an enemy called North Korea.
When I was in the army,The first rifle that was given was k2. Three months after I was deployed to the unit, Sgt. called me "Hey, you know what this is? It's called a grenade launcher. Isn't it cool?" Of course I'm like, "Yes, Sergeant. Cool!" I had to answer. Then the sergeant let me carry the gun. You told me to listen to it since I said it was cool. When I answered, "private. Choi@@!" and accepted the gun, the sergeant said, "Congratulations. You're the grenade launcher of our squad from now on." Later, when I went on vacation and told this story to my friends, they told me that my friend who used to run a K3 machine gun got hit by the same method.
there's a really BIG problem with that, their standardization SUCKS let's see: - 9-men light infantry (tavor or M16A2 or M16A4 or galil & minimi or M249 or negev & M16A1/M203 or M16A2/M203 or M16A4/M203 or M16A4/GLX-160) - 11-men 'standard'/motorized infantry (tavor or M16A2 or M16A4 or M4 ACC-M & minimi or M249 or negev & M16A1/M203 or M16A2/M203 or M16A4/M203) - (?)-men airborne infantry - 3+8-men BTR mech infantry (tavor & negev & M16A2/M203) - 2+9-men M113 mech infantry (tavor & minimi & M16A2/M203) - 2+9-men Stryker mech infantry (SCAR & negev & M16A2/M203) - 2+8(?)-men Type 85 mech cavalry (=mech infantry in other nations) - 2+8(?)-men M113 mech cavalry (=mech infantry in other nations)
@@andresmartinezramos7513lack of money, internal politics, external political meddling, threats perception, doctrinal awkwardness, bureaucratic stupidity, mismanagement, incompetent leadership, etc i think there're 80s version, 90s version, 2000s version, and 2010s version of TOEs in service at the same time...
I'm very pleased about this video's details and reliablity...So nc to see like this good vid as an rok discharged. Thx again for making this video. :) Post: K3 machine gun is really suck enough to use it as an bolt action rifle.
Korea is a conscription country. South Korea is also conscripting to counter North Korea's 1 million troops, but now it has replaced its professional military departments, such as artillery/tank, with professional soldiers. Of course, all special forces are professional soldiers. The part that needs conscription is soldiers such as infantry and administrative/driver. This is the current situation.
To add up, all front-line(GOP) units are equipped with k2c1 and optics. And right after my service was over, I believe that all combats units are now given k2c1. All other back-up or reserves receive original k2 which I used during my service and didn't like that much. K15 machine guns will be given till 2022.
That is sadly completely impossible in south korean culture, not only because of the neo-confucian conservative thinking that is probably the strongest in Korea out of the region but also because women vote too and conscription is unpopular, as was stated.
don't worry wartime, every one gonna wanna volunteer... otherwise they are cannon fodder in event for another busan perimeter styled Blitzkrieg rush...
분대장과 부분대장이 K2C1, 나머지 분대원들이 K3, K201 을 사용하는 최전방 육군 개인화기 시스템을 잘 설명해주는 영상이네요. (GOP출신들은 공감할듯) K3가 문제있는 총이라는 지적도 놀랍네요. The explain of the video that the squad leader and the assistant squad leader use K2C1 and the rest of the squad use K3 and K201 at the front-line Army is very accurate. K3 is truly bad machine gun.^^
@@MusicIsLegal Korea has focused heavily on artillery for many centuries. It's kind of our tradition. There is a well-known joke-nickname for MoD (Ministry of Defense) in Korea. People in Navy (including Marines) and Air Force call it "Ministry of Army-fense" because the land army takes all the good things. In the same manner, People in Army call it "Ministry of Artill-fense" because the artillery units get high priority.
Culture and conscription seem to lead to less delegation and more centralization in South Korean military units, so I’m not surprised that they don’t split into fire teams. I think he said the MG troop carries his own ammunition, but unless he’s woefully under supplied, that’s not likely. The boxes will be spread around the squad. If Putin cannot get his forces to properly use the old Soviet tactics, it would be interesting to see if the Kim’s could do so. Hopefully, we won’t find out in either case.
Don't know how anyone could come to the conclusion that declining birthrates are due to inequality in the workplace, I mean, I'm from a country that have a pretty flat structure, where it's pretty normal to go get a friendly beer with your boss outside work and I'm all for it, however when looking throughout history, when women were practically only allowed to be secretaries and nurses this problem didn't exist, so it's likely something else, cost of living is a decent alternative, I would also argue having kids have been put down in priorities of what is taught to kids is important, you don't tell them to have a family, you tell them to get an education so they can get a career and then profit and freedom and green pastures.
I’d argue that the issue of women being paid less (mostly due to them taking lower-paying jobs) wasn’t nearly as much of an issue in the past, when the cost of living was low enough that a single working person could easily support a family of five. But with higher costs of living, it now takes two wages to live decently, and women earning less is a more pronounced issue.
@@obiwankenobi4252 Among rich families who can afford only having one person work, they tend to only have 1-2 children. Neither does the wagegap (even taking the most extreme examples) make a big difference. It would at best be like if one of the parties involved got a promotion. It wouldn't fix it. People in poor countries also tend to have a lot of children and in fact poor people in general do as well. It largely seems to be an issue of what society have deemed important. We see a similar problem in some countries such as mine with regards to nobody wanting to get a job such as carpentry or bricklayers since it's believed that is for stupid people and they need to get a long education. It's a self made problem.
@@six2make4 I mean, yeah it’s a self-made problem, but one which is strictly linked with a nation’s level of development. Higher cost to raise a family means that people raise smaller families, hence fewer kids.
@@obiwankenobi4252 Yea, but higher living cost also typically mean higher wages. But the problem is that people fresh out of school are less likely to start a family because they can't afford to... YET. How this affects birth rate, well not quite sure there's research on this aspect. But presumably families just start later rather than not at all, but that's just speculation.
Well at least they have an army. The Bundeswehr here in germany is joke compared to the korean army. It is called the "worst army of europe". Planes are not flying, rifles are not shooting. And we do not have spare parts for our outdated tanks. Yes we have the Leopard 2 A5, but the german government likes to sell them to other countries while buying old Leopards from the Nethrelands in return. Fertility rates are at 0,3%. I know the south korean fertility rate is even lower. But if war would break out tomorrow, germany would be overruned within two weeks. In south korea the living costs are rising and people can barely sustain a familiy. It is the same in germany. In Japan nearly every second young man is virgin now. Germany is going the same way as japan. As a man you can not sustain a family so no woman has interest in you. A man in the 50s could pay for his 7 children and his wife on his own. He had a house and a car. Today you are lucky when you can pay your rent as a man even without a house or a car. Family and children are not even an option with such low wages in germany. And a lot of young men are ignored completely by young women in germany, because they do not earn enough. So yeah, defenetly no new young men for the army.
As a Korean, I would say that it is your luck to have a geopolitical position that does not need such a strong military.. Germany is surrounded by many friendly neighbors bound to the EU system and Russia is faraway from Berlin by now. If Russia attacks you, Poland, France, Italy, Spain, and many other European allies will not hesitate to help Germany. And I can't find any serious threat except for Russia that can militaristically invade Germany now. So, in my opinion, there's no reason for Germany to waste money to the military. In South Korea, the situation is the opposite. We are surrounded by unreliable, if not hostile, countries. North Korea is our primary enemy with nukes in its hands, China wants to grab the entire Korean peninsula into its sphere of influence, and even Japan has not-so-good relationship with us in recent days. Every single country in the Asia-pacific region is annually increasing defense budget with a notable rate. If I were you, I would rather choose to have a weak military in a safe geopolitics than to have a strong military but being surrounded by bigger and hostile neighbors.
We do have some shitty problem for that. Gender stuff in Korea is most serious and senstive things. We've already tried that and trying it till now but the feminist are arging so badly that even the government tured their face.
Umm...🤔🤔 that's right, but our country is very inequality for man...because ours president and politiicians of the ruling party are feminist like New Zealand... moreover they stir up conflict between men and women. So, many people are fighting each other about gender issue... I hope ASAP the regime changes. The presidential election of the Republic of Korea will take place next year. Please pray for our country....
Everybody gangsta til they find out about the news that north korean spies were actually commanded to create gender inequality issues to decrease birthrates by Kim
I'm from Kctc. The North Korean soldiers in the video. The kctc is a South Korean military, but it speaks North Korean. We use North Korean tactics. I think the quality of this video is very good.
They should change their mandatory military service to take all able bodied citizens like Israel, not just male citizens. This would somewhat solve their problem. Plus I've a feeling it would solve another problem, less number of women would put plastic inside them or fight on behalf of BTS on twitter.
SK just has to keep the fuel in the south and away from NK and any NK invasion will be a invasion by feet after the first two weeks. at which time, they will have complete mobility advantage.
It is quite strange to me that the South Koreans hate conscription, I understand some of the logic but with a country like North Korea on your border why would you protest?
conscription, no matter the country is always unpopular, during war-times it's often somewhat accepted as a necessity for the army to bolster their numbers, but during peacetime acceptance falls gradually, both on the politics and on the civilian sides until it is so low that it gets gradually reduced until the addition of conscripts become dubious value to the army
From what I hear alot of people view it as a waste of time in their prime. Their plans for their occupation or education gets placed on hold. However, the issues the South Korean military have still pales in comparison to North Korea's.
North Korea was only really an existential threat before the 80s. They were still dangerous after that, but the spectre of a large-scale invasion Korean War-style had long gone. I think it is more a nuisance than an life-or-death threat to today's South Korean.
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as a reserve second lt from roka, i'm just surprised by the accuracy and details of this clip....well done!
Question: do you know how to land nav?
How well do you feel your active and reserve troops would do against an all out invasion from your northern brethren?
@@Joe_Friday I'm a 1st year reservist. To be honest, I don't think the north is an issue anymore barring nukes and civilian damage if war breaks out. Problem is neighbors like China, and the fact that the bar of entry to enter active-duty service is getting lower because of the population problem.
Like in the 1980s, only about 30% of all males were conscripted to active-duty, meaning infantry was made up solely of the toughest, most athletic and sharpest dudes.
The rest would be conscripted and do desk-jobs or civil service instead.
An example of this is that until 1990 it was pretty much impossible for you to be in infantry if you even wore glasses.
When I got out of service in 2020, they lowered the entry bar because they couldn't fill the TOs anymore... So more and more guys who just aren't physically and mentally together are getting put into combat roles.
To be frank, I wouldn't trust some of these new conscripts with a pair of scissors, let alone war equipment...
@@wonseokchoi4203 Also does the ROK's Army take Felons? Just asking.
@@wonseokchoi4203 As a US Marine you'd be pretty surprised how relevant that kind of is in the US military despite being an all volunteer force
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First of all, thank you for posting a good video. I served in the Republic of Korea Air Force for a period of 2015-2017. In the case of the Army, the latest rifles were supplied, but it was difficult for the Air Force to find the K2 in departments except military police, and I also used the M16A1 rifle until I was discharged from the military.
It is very weird to have trained in half of the places that are featured in this video
Nice
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Korea isn’t exactly a big country
In active service right now and very much appreciate seeing roka featured on the channel! Maybe you can make a video on the Korean army's field artillery next since it is the army's primary focus in research/funding. Anyways, great video as always and look forward to seeing more no matter the subject!
For Mountain Recon Squad
machinegunner is replaced with squad marksman, armed with K2C1 fitted with 6x scope
and K3s are given to Platoon HQ squad
as for the fireteams, it varies from unit to unit
Rifle squads who operate in Western front is not likely to utilize fireteam, as for me who served in Eastern front, out platoon did utilize fireteam structure
Interesting. Do you think this has to do with the west being more flat, and the east being more mountainous, or is it just a 'cultural' paradigm that has nothing to do with terrain?
@@wgoulding It definitely has to do with terrain
Just like you said, West line is relatively flat while East line (which is under jurisdiction of 2nd, 3rd, and 8th Corps) is very mountainous
Fireteams are essential in mountain warfare, as mobilizing 8men unit as a whole is very difficult
Our platoon also using fireteam structure. But we just have 6 or 5, sometime even 4 member on squad. LT want to focus on platoon fire support team, so we complete organized Grenadiers and MG, but there are no rifleman and assistant gunner
Strange that there is no designated marksman rifle just K2C1 with 6x scope. Maximum range of 600m seems lacking especially in mountainous areas.
@@abbc5156 well korean mountain is very different from rocky mountains in afghan, its more suited towards jungle warfare
they do teach that in Sniper school, but from what I experienced 600m is more than enough in our mountains
As an korean im really happy to see korean stuff from this channel! :) brings back memories from the army
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@@Manong-0607 나도요 ㅠㅠ
Very impressed. You amazingly see through the current problem in ROK army nowadays. Nice video!
Even though I am a reserve soldier now, I am reminded of military life, but after shooting training, I unconditionally pick up a cartridge case. Of course, this is to prevent the illegal use of live ammunition (improper use of live ammunition inevitably leads to fatal accidents). So, when I was in the military, one cartridge case disappeared and then everything stopped and I remember doing everything I could to find the cartridge case.
I would love to see a look at Australia's 3 multirole brigades (a multirole brigade is supposed to be able to change between mechanised, motor, or light infantry depending on what is needed).
Maybe we could just get a bigger military?
@@sam8742 except we are an island nation whom has only really been threatened once in WWII. So most of the money goes to the airforce and navy (F35s, Loyal Wingman project, Canberra Class, Hobart Class, Hunter Class, oh and don't forget the money pit that is the Attack Class Sub). At least now the army is properly equipped as an expeditionary force which is how it had been deployed over the past 100 years.
That plan, I heard, never came to full fruition. This was because the concept was bigger than the amount of equipment available.
@@Taiko-THC349 I thought it has hence the Land400 project to replace all the APCs with either German or south Korean IFVs along with the purchase of a few dozen more M1 Abrams.
@@phinix250 You could be right. We will see. Talk is talk after all.
1:45 YES 12th Mountain Division, my Unit
I discharged after full service as Byeongjang
served in 12th Div Regimental Recon unit
hard but proud times
lucky you, I dont see my division from this video ㅠ
수고하셧습니다
Ah, III corps in the east. From the order of battle I have from 2018, it's just listed as a line infantry division, as does wikipedia. Do you guys get mountain training that the guys in, say, I or VI Corps wouldn't?
@@wgoulding yes, the official designation would be just 3rd Army Corps
but it is the only Corps that consists of infantry divisions dedicated for Mountain warfare, like the 12th and 21st Div
its semi-official title is also the “Mountain Corps”
The motto of 12th Div was “Spearhead of our fatherland, Shield of our mountains”
I was a M60 assist gunner early in 2000. carrying extra barrel and accessory bag. the case was already rare as most of front line units recieved K3 as squad automatic weapon. only 2nd line units and armor units had M60s.
My unit transfered from 4 squad structure to 3 squad structure just before my conscription, so they had old legacy of Weapon squad and weapon platoon.
so the machine gun training was based on 3 people, gunner/assist gunner/ammo man.
we also had tripods for M60s, but no one assigned and no training for it.
my brigade was merged with the nearby ID who uses K3s, so I think the warthogs were moathballed.
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Former ROKN LT here.
Very interesting and well researched video.
Well done.
Hey, thanks!
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Thx you for good military contents, now im sereved as a marine corps officer in ROK Marine Corps, I want to you mount subtitles in your contents, that makes more easier to understand your contents who see your contents from non-english culture person, thank you
you should do a vid about bout the EDF (ESTONIAN DEFENCE FORCES) squads and other units
A video on the militaries of the Baltics would be very interesting.
@@itjustjuan5148 yes it would be
I third this motion, more Baltic forces would be great
He needs time. There's A LOT to cover XD
EDF! EDF! EDF! We are the valiant infantry...
Oh wait, wrong EDF!
"But if war were declared,"
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The need for an assistant gunner on light-machine guns depends partially on the LMG itself. For example, you fire 600 rounds with an MG3 and you wont see anything after that. Because the heat rising from the barrel will obscure your sights. Therefor it becomes easier to be guided by someone next to the weapon. Then you have the aspect of optics. Weapon optics are costly, regular binoculars are less so, but often also have higher magnification and it therefor makes sense to have a secondary guy only use them and guide the fire.
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You swap the MG3 to a SAW however and add an acog or similar optics on it and you dont need that, but then again you have less impact at range.
If you're firing 600 rounds in a real firefight continously enough to make heat haze obscure your sight picture that much then whether or not you have an assistant gunner is the least of your problems.
@@SunTzuSeeYou The heat issue stars allot earlier on calibers over 5,56. Its also worse during the winter and this notion 600 rounds is allot is something none shock troops would say....
@@Lobos222 I'm not saying shooting 600 rounds in a firefight is a lot. I'm saying shooting 600 rounds that rapidly from a LMG is a lot and that means you're in real bad situation. Guess, it depends on doctrine. When I was a rifleman in Afghanistan, our squad tactics involved our SAW gunner firing a string of bursts and then maneuvering along with the rest of the squad. They didn't have optics and their barrel never got hot enough for it to be a problem, even in really intense engagements. But yes, I can see how a GPMG like the MG3 would have that problem, especially since the Germans love to use their machine guns as a base of fire in which the squad maneuvers around, not with.
If you've fired 600 rounds without switching barrels you're doing something wrong. That's one reason why you have a quick change barrel in the first place.
I love your videos man, please keep up the good work!! Hopefully you can find the time to make a video on French forces!
Gender inequality in the workplace lowers birthrates? Some say more and more women working full time jobs or choosing careers over being stay at home moms has lowered birth rates in many Western countries at least.
I've heard it is same in South Korea..
Female workforce participation is factored into predictions for rates of fertility so yes, this is true.
Same in the US and much of Western Europe
Well, being a stay-at-home and being dependent on your spouse's money for pretty much everything is not liked
Having a job does not necessarily mean lower fertility. It's a bit more complicated.
@@Briselance don't think so. More women working full time, less kids.
So thus the ROKMC also operate a 8 man squad split into two 4 man fire teams, or 10 man squad with two 5 man fire teams?
10man squad only army change
Discharged 7 months ago. 6th Force Recon Company. Reconnaissance battalions or companies operate a 7 man team. Infantry 10 man squad
First, Thanks for the great Vid!
Army conscription has escalated more and more into a social issue nowadays in Korea. I myself has finished my conscription duties, and here's what I know so far.
Now, the army conscription ratio of Korea is surpassed 90%, which is even more than the conscription rate of Japan in WW2.
The quantity and quality of army food has decreased(or is the same) inspite of the Ministry of Defense's 'efforts' for improvement.
South Korean men are conscripted into the army regardless of serious physical/mental condition, and they receive approximately 400$ a month with poor living standards.
Even more, the men are not served with proper treatment or compensation if a serious injury occurs during their service.
When a private lost his foot by a north korean landmine in 2017, he did not receive proper compentation - but an ankle-shaped statue, which obviously does not make up for his loss.
These phenomenons made young korean men depict army conscription as 'not worth the effort', 'avoid if you can', or even '21th century slave labor'.
A sense of deprivation has naturally into Korean men in their 20~30s because of these issues.
The Korean government has not made any notable efforts to compensate their 18 month long service, while their women counterparts get jobs and go into society far earlier.
This combined with the ever increasing army conscription ratio has made these generations despise the ROK military even more,
which is depicted in the saying 'When the army calls, you're their son. If you get out of the army with injuries, you're not their son anymore.'
The decrease of army personnel due to low fertility rates is showing its impact even in this moment, but I personally think there is no hope of improvement for the next 3~5 years.
Living conditions for young citizens have deteriorated in the past few years and fertility rates have remained a record low for the past 5 years.
Revising the Rifle squad personnel can be a temporary solution, but a complete overhaul of Korea's army conscription system is the one and ultimate solution.
싸구려 알보병에게 비싼거 줄 이유가 그네한테 있나요?
@@Someone111ify 영어실력 길러서 글 다시 읽으시고 정치병 좀 빼고 오시길 바랍니다. 박근혜 얘기 한적 없는것 같은데 혼자 발작하시네요
@@narodovvyboy 박근혜 말고요. 어차피 다 읽음. 시작은 징병에 대한 사회적관심이 높다고 결론은 한국군징병체계를 완전히 정비해야한다는 것이고요. 고작 18개월만 하니 그럴 수 밖에요.
Thank you for sharing sir, I see south koreas government in trouble in the future
@@narodovvyboy 그네라는 단어가 원래는 '그들'을 지칭하는 단어 아닌가용
Excellent video 👍 Thank you 💜
"After the modernization, the squad will not have reservists in them"
Looks at Generation Kill reservists
Yeah, I can see why this might make the unit better...
Ayyy pfp joke
joke aside the difference between US reservists and SK reservist is that SK reservists are all retired vets
Reservists in ROK military are ex-military. They already finished their duties in military and went back to their civilian life.
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Felt like I should mention ROK soldiers are mostly conscripts so no as motivated as US reservists but probably better trained
Just to correct one tiny thing, Reservists are (almost) always SGT-but I do like to translate them as Senior Specialists since they aren't NCOs-since they switch to reserves after they finish their conscription. Other than that, it's pretty accurate and good job on this video.
My first duty station was Camp Humphreys,Pyeongtaek South Korea. I was there for 1 year and 2 months and I tell you the Katusas and Koreans I fought and worked with are hardened men.
Hoooah
A very detailed description 👍 good video.
I haven’t actually knew about South Korea population decline yet, thanks for telling me that actually
It’s a pretty big problem in multiple countries. It’s happening in Italy, Germany, Japan, , Russia, China and many more.
@@My.Name.Is.Chris. For China it’s more the aging bit then the population one,… And forcing people into marriages usually doesn’t go well,.,.
It's a problem for all developed and industrialized nations. Some are hit harder than others
Love the quality of these vids
4:02 despite its cancellation, the K11 was one of two of that type of over-under airburst assault weapons to go into mass production in recent times, as well as getting farther in development than the OICW. The other was the QTS-11, used by Chinese special forces in large numbers as of 2011.
I love the thumbnails with red eyes
It's unfortunate to hear that South Korea infantry units are lacking considering the K2 tank is supposedly one of the best in the world
having a section Gunner carry all of his own ammunition is absolute suicide and screams of further corruption. 1 man cannot carry enough ammunition for a machine gun in heavy combat.
How ever conveniently limiting the ammunition per squad to what 1 person can carry is cheaper.
Each belt weighs 2.5kg. On an soldier carrying 15kg of essential gear and armour. The max a gunner can carry in sustained combat is 800 rounds (20kg).
No one is running more then half a kilometre with 35kg. With a section of 10 at 15m spacing. If that gunner is tail end charlie. He’s running 150 meters every time they come under contract.
At 1 round per second in combat.
You’re only talking about a firepower potential of 13 minutes per squad.
Compared to regular doctrine of every man in a section carries 1 belt. Your sustained firepower can go from 13 minutes to 30 minutes. I which can be life or death against an overwhelming force. It’s lucky these ninjas are trained in hand to hand combat.
Agree with you - HMG teams were always 3 dudes in my military. I'm surprised they went with 1 HMG, rather than 2 LMGs. Also, no anti-tank weaponry? Or is that a platoon team?
@@wnose The K3 is already an LMG, its modeled after the Minimi and shoots 5.56. As for AT, that is almost assuredly a platoon or company level provision. Additionally these are often matters that vary from unit to unit, and I'm actually slightly surprised the video didn't go into this, even if only in passing, as many other videos do mention this and go into some detail about the weapons and possible distribution of them.
@@LawL_LawL Realistically, the AT weapons we carried would barely dent a modern tank, so I understand if the Koreans decided not to deploy it. But it's still useful for other purposes though.
@@wnose As far as I know, SK army does not have HMGs in common infantry divisions. Anything that has bigger caliber than 5.56 or 7.62 is always mounted on vehicles of mechanized infantry brigades or ships. They also have AT weapons like recoiless guns, Pzf 3, korean copies of M72Law and javelin, but are very rare. These AT squads or platoons only exist under battalion command and above. So common infantry soldiers have never even seen those except in museums.
This is not the US army, don't think too highly of SK's conscripted army:)
Great video! Any chance you could do a video on South Korea's mechanized and tanks forced another time?
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Great vid, keep it up dude!
Great video, would you do one on Indian Army, it's not super modernized but the mountainous soldiers can be good topic.
South Korea is not the only country that’s having a demographic crisis rn.
No, but South Koreas military size is very sensitive to its population size due to its conscription system.
Not the only country, but in unrivaled level
What a funny. Democrats always ruins democracy
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As a Korean officer doing R&D for the future of the military, I must note we are also looking at 4-man(!!) squads with quad-bike sized UGV support for mech infantry in the future. I'm not very optimistic about the future tbh. I feel despondent at times because of the "writing on the wall" as westerners say.
Clearing rooms with that k2 is like asking to get shot around corners. Perhaps they need to do something about their standard rifles also.
Korean army Infantry tactics are based on heavy firesupport from artillery or mortar.
So rifle squad don't need to big
Instead, they place a lot of companies which can easily cover and hold wide area. And much of operation territories are mountain area so they don't need a big squad instead they cover wide area with enough rifle squad and firesupport companies.
Furthermore most of Frontline divisions are completely deployed but non-front line divisions are basically territory control like state defense forces so those divs don't need to be heavily and completely armed so most of non-frontline divs has a lot of reserve forces deployment and most of them are reserve forces that don't need to be a heavily armed with newest weapons. Cuz main object is civilian and territory control. so non Frontline state defense division has more smaller firesquad then front divs. they're armed with 2nd line arms & gears which you said like basic k2s and even m16a1s.
Thanks for your good information
I'm a former sergent of ROK army, You know more than me how it is going and it will be.
Thank you for the information
South Korea's Defense Ministry likes firepower and artillery.
Some of this sounds similar to the brigade combat team system in us army and it didn't go super well in practice so it will be interesting to see
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One :meh I will watch the video later
Two :where is my God damn video I want to see it now
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necessity is the mother of all change. making each squad slimmer and more battle ready is the way to go.
Did you just get away with not having to pronounce any Korean place names? Very slick haha
You know when I was over there I remember think the ROK Army was a pretty good fighting force but I didn't really under stand their structure.. their reservist got a lot of crap.. but when I got to Kuwait seeing the Kuwaiti Army and later dealing with the Iraqi NG I remember thinking wow how much more professional and nicer it was to work with the ROKA.. I miss them
Yea, the old way seems stupid. We do it the new method in Singapore. Reservists form their own organic units and are mobilised and deployed separately. Although I think there may be a cache of regulars to facilitate. But even the senior officers are reservists.
Can you do Finland next?
3:58 Procurement of new night vision goggle from L3Harris only applies to special forces unit. Special Forces from the Army and the Navy use GPNVG-18 as part of the enhancement of equipment in Spec Ops Unit. Some AN/PVS-31 were also aquired for the Navy. Generally, the regular forces use domestically developed PVS-04K which the performance is equivalent to U.S made AN/PVS-14, however the early model of PVS-04K were totally useless as they adopted French made PHOTONIS lens, after the complaint from the users, they replaced the lens with L3Harris tubes.
8:27 We did a big training event with the ROKA forces at this training site. The "Enemy" even dresses up as North Koreans with tan uniforms and helmets. 5:37 My platoon was held up in those buildings for 2 days fighting wave after wave of Koreans it was definitely the best training event I've ever done. A lot of respect to the Koreans forces for inviting my Company to attend.
Great video
You should cover the ROK army 7th armored corp as well. They have all the fun stuff. Or the newly commissioned 2nd airborne division.
We’re doing a Patreon-exclusive video on the mechanized infantry component of the 7th Mobile Corps
I was in infantry officer basic course with a S. Korean lieutenant. He was awesome. Great attitude, humble, hard working, fucking awesome guy. If they're cutting down the size of the army and restructuring the squads, they're good as long as they don't let standards slip. Also, I think the standing army of the relatively smaller country is MASSIVE compared to the standing army of the United States. I think there's like 1 million service members across all military branches, but something like half of that is U.S. Army (the largest branch). That's out of 300 million people. So for S. Korea to have 350k standing army is crazy. No wonder people are up in arms about conscription. BUT I also went to basic training with 2 S. Korean privates who signed onto the U.S. Army because they said bonuses were better, and they had gotten a deal where they could serve in Korea. So I know there's a lot of that going on.
May be you can discuss about ROK army reformation program as a related story of this video.
ROKA has disassmebled its stongest 20th Mech division last year because of decreasing human resources
That was a serious event for Korean army and they are gonna disassemble their whole divisions into brigades
Eventually, ROK is going to have armored and Mech brigades in the future.
L3's new night vision PVS-31K is only introduced for ROK Navy UDT/SEAL
The Army tried to replace the NVG phosphor with L3s because of problems with the phosphor in their monocular night vision, but was cancelled because the Defense Acquisition Program Administration did not understand the need.
As a korean army reserve, I want to say that the korean army has been severly corrupted from it's inside. Believe it or not, korean people and the press recognizes the korean military very negatively due to their brutal acts against soldiers in mandatory service, or their policy direction to a meaningless promotion. The video shows K2C1 as a standard issue rifle, but more than 95% of korean soldiers are still using a 30 year old K2 rifle. When I was in service, I was supplied with a canteen which was manufactured in 1968(not joking). The korean army is not interested in advancing their combat abilities. They are just focusing on promoting their military for additional funding from it's government.
Hate the fact that this is true and won't change for a long time
Typical Korean style of administration. They never see the forest but only a tree. ROKA should be prepared for the warfare against chinese army instead of north Korea. All they care is having turf wars against each other and secure the promotions.
95%가 아직도 알총 K2 쓰고있다는건 뭔 소리인지 모르겠네요 ㅋㅋ 제가 과훈단 있으면서 본 왠만한 기보사단들 다 K2C1 들고 왔는데. 미군들도 따지고보면 AR 베이스 라이플을 수 년째 쓰고 있는데 그걸 구닥다리라고 하진 않죠.
for real, everyone in the comments is talking about the new rifles and NODS and all this readiness shit, when all that shit is simply not true at all! the ROKA leadership sucked, the infantry dudes had no concept of noise and light discipline, and their equipment was old as shit! like, how are you gonna mount NODS reliably on an old ass m1 style helmet?
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Great video nice research dude i found out just one thing in the video is wrong, most of mobilized reservists will be a rank of byeongjang(sergeant)
The South Korean army is lacking in some areas, but overall we're not doing too bad.
Don't worry too much about it, most militaries fluctuate and adjust when they need to. Most armies aren't on south Korea's level.
I've been hearing stories since I was a kid about the south Korean military. From my grandpa who fought in the Korean war, Vietnam vets in my neighborhood, and from soldiers in the military after I joined. They all said the same thing. Korea has some of the best soldiers in the world.
@@sleepingninjaquiettime Good to know that we aren't forgotten as much as I thought we were!
Also, I'd like to thank your grandpa for his service in the defense of my country and yours in whichever military your serve or served in.
It's the most modern army in Asia
@@protestantwarrior1516In my opinion it's ONE of the most modern armies in Asia. The MOST modern army in Asia is kind of a debatable topic.
@@JohnKuang-rf6fb is that why they purchase K9 thunder from South Korea?
funny thing is Roka has a lot of advanced weapon like K2 main battle tanks and f35 fighters. But rifleman still use Vietnam war era stuff
Oh my god their MILES system actually fucking works!
Our units in the SAF could've used that back in 2011 rather than the "airsoft honor system" with the damn umpires hahaha
Another great video. Maybe make one for Indian forces as well considering there is a reorganization for command theaterization taking place.
I'm a reserve officer who served as platoon leader for two years. I used to work in the front line, my platoon was always short of the number stipulated in ROKarmy tactics, and I always had to worry about the number of guards. What surprised me after I was discharged from the army was the situation in the rear. There were only two to four men in a squad, and most of the troops were reservists. Many Korean men are overconfident in the capabilities of the Korean reserve forces, but frankly I don't believe in them. Even I, who became an officer because I wanted to be a soldier, have become much more dull now, and I think they are probably in a more serious condition than me. In fact, when I went to reserve training, most of them forgot their combat skills, and some of them got fat and couldn't wear combat uniforms.
Fortunately, the situation in the North Korean military is worse than ours and I don't think we'll lose, but I'm still worried about this. Even you, who were not Korean soldiers, seem to know about this, so I'm more worried.
How does the reserve officer pipeline work in ROK ?
In my pov modern militaries should be organised different than how they are (considering the active duty - reserve system but also training). Especially in cases like germany or south korea although i have to admit that i don`t know enough about korean geography, population density and where units are stationed/how barracks life works to speak on it there.
Greedings from germany.
@@mrd7067 All officers of the Korean military will belong to the reserve forces after being discharged from the military. And they have to participate in training for about three days a year until their sixth year of discharge. Usually, they have different jobs at this age, and even if they take a day off because of this training, their co-workers seem to understand. The training that reserve officers receive depends on the unit they were assigned to. And usually, they are tasked with educating or leading reserve forces. We only receive training until the sixth year, but we don't quit the reserve forces mission. Since the number of reserve officers is not so many, each class will be assigned to the reserve forces up to a set age. For example, I will be promoted to reserve captain next year, and I will be in the reserve forces until the age of 43. My English is not good, so I couldn't fully grasp your question. I'm not sure if this is the answer you want.
@@KsS416
It partly answered it.
I meant more how are officers recruted ?
From among the enlisted or directly from the street and trained seperatly ?
How long is their military training as well as time active in a leadership position ?
You pretty much answered what they do when in the reserve and how long.
From what i understand the ROK military follows the US training model.
I thought your reserve might follow the US model too (one weekend a month and 2-4 weeks a year training time).
It might be the optimum for 12 years "active reserve" (or Reserve I) after the active duty time.
3 days a year would you only give time for the most basic qualifications in the german military, if even that (just enough time for refresher training in first aid, NBC [nuclear, biological, chemical] training and a trip to the shooting range).
Thanks for your time.
@@mrd7067 The method of recruiting officers is similar to that of the United States. You can graduate from a military academy, take ROTC or OCS courses at a general university, or apply for an officer course while working as a private. Usually, they serve as active military officers for as short as two years or more, and if they are discharged from the military, they automatically become reserve officers. What happens after that is the same as the previous comment I posted.
Since they have already received at least six months of training described by you in the course of military schools or ROTC, three days of training per year after becoming a reserve force is sufficient. Because it's not their first time learning this.
Perhaps if what I understand is correct, you mistook the reserve officer for being trained on the street like the game 'The Division' agents. Not only officers but also all reserve forces must serve in the military for at least two years. Reserve forces are automatically deployed after they are discharged from the military, and they are not soldiers, but ordinary civilians, so they have to focus on their work. That's why they only receive training for such a short period of time. I hope my answer is what you wanted.
@@mrd7067 I don't know how to do it in other countries, but all Korean reserve forces are made up of retired soldiers. (Army, Air Force, Marine, Navy, Special Forces, whatever) We are conscripted, so most men served in the military, and the number of reserve forces is huge because they are all reserve forces. But what I'm worried about is that their expertise seems to be inferior to the U.S. military, and the number of soldiers is decreasing recently as the population decreases, and we still have an enemy called North Korea.
When I was in the army,The first rifle that was given was k2.
Three months after I was deployed to the unit, Sgt. called me
"Hey, you know what this is? It's called a grenade launcher. Isn't it cool?"
Of course I'm like, "Yes, Sergeant. Cool!" I had to answer.
Then the sergeant let me carry the gun. You told me to listen to it since I said it was cool.
When I answered, "private. Choi@@!" and accepted the gun, the sergeant said,
"Congratulations. You're the grenade launcher of our squad from now on."
Later, when I went on vacation and told this story to my friends,
they told me that my friend who used to run a K3 machine gun got hit by the same method.
korea's army technology is great fantastic
You should ask the guys at Red Cell for more information on South Korea's military!
3:54 looks like Henry from 9 holes reviews.
North Korea: *Laughs* .We have more than YOU!
Wow and third 🥉. Also hope for video about Thailand🇹🇭 Armed Forces soon
there's a really BIG problem with that, their standardization SUCKS
let's see:
- 9-men light infantry (tavor or M16A2 or M16A4 or galil & minimi or M249 or negev & M16A1/M203 or M16A2/M203 or M16A4/M203 or M16A4/GLX-160)
- 11-men 'standard'/motorized infantry (tavor or M16A2 or M16A4 or M4 ACC-M & minimi or M249 or negev & M16A1/M203 or M16A2/M203 or M16A4/M203)
- (?)-men airborne infantry
- 3+8-men BTR mech infantry (tavor & negev & M16A2/M203)
- 2+9-men M113 mech infantry (tavor & minimi & M16A2/M203)
- 2+9-men Stryker mech infantry (SCAR & negev & M16A2/M203)
- 2+8(?)-men Type 85 mech cavalry (=mech infantry in other nations)
- 2+8(?)-men M113 mech cavalry (=mech infantry in other nations)
It would be a lengthy video… YES
@@nikujaga_oishii AAAHHH! What a nightmare
How come they haven't ditched that (dis-)organization?
@@andresmartinezramos7513lack of money, internal politics, external political meddling, threats perception, doctrinal awkwardness, bureaucratic stupidity, mismanagement, incompetent leadership, etc
i think there're 80s version, 90s version, 2000s version, and 2010s version of TOEs in service at the same time...
@@nikujaga_oishii jeez...
I'm very pleased about this video's details and reliablity...So nc to see like this good vid as an rok discharged. Thx again for making this video. :)
Post: K3 machine gun is really suck enough to use it as an bolt action rifle.
IDF next 🙏
Korea is a conscription country. South Korea is also conscripting to counter North Korea's 1 million troops, but now it has replaced its professional military departments, such as artillery/tank, with professional soldiers. Of course, all special forces are professional soldiers. The part that needs conscription is soldiers such as infantry and administrative/driver. This is the current situation.
시발 내년에 입대해야하는데 이런게 알고리즘으로 뜨네 ㅋㅋ
군캉스 부럽누...
@@egggge4351 ㅈㄹㄴ
고생하시고 다치지마소 군대에서 다치면 누구보다 서러우니.
@@egggge4351 군캉스 ㅇㅈㄹ
@@egggge4351 개나쁜놈 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Holy shit how did u get all the info 😳 very accurate and objective.
뭔 내용인지 모르지만 일단 한국 나와서 자랑스럽네요.(당신은 한국인을 발견했습니다)
очень верно подмечено товарищ
Hi I'm from Vietnam. Nice to meet you and chat with you. My job is in the marble industry, I hope to share your help. Thanks very much
we have talked china,japan,vietnam,now korea, next is republic of china(taiwan) ?
To add up, all front-line(GOP) units are equipped with k2c1 and optics. And right after my service was over, I believe that all combats units are now given k2c1. All other back-up or reserves receive original k2 which I used during my service and didn't like that much. K15 machine guns will be given till 2022.
maybe they should conscript women too
Israel proved it, just ask them for advice.
That is sadly completely impossible in south korean culture, not only because of the neo-confucian conservative thinking that is probably the strongest in Korea out of the region but also because women vote too and conscription is unpopular, as was stated.
Or help the women get the population on track
don't worry wartime, every one gonna wanna volunteer... otherwise they are cannon fodder in event for another busan perimeter styled Blitzkrieg rush...
No, they will not.
Lovely video. Could you have a video on force ratio and space defence?
분대장과 부분대장이 K2C1, 나머지 분대원들이 K3, K201 을 사용하는 최전방 육군 개인화기 시스템을 잘 설명해주는 영상이네요. (GOP출신들은 공감할듯) K3가 문제있는 총이라는 지적도 놀랍네요.
The explain of the video that the squad leader and the assistant squad leader use K2C1 and the rest of the squad use K3 and K201 at the front-line Army is very accurate. K3 is truly bad machine gun.^^
한국분이다!! 반갑습니다 kctc갈뻔했지만...안가게된 1인입니다
Seems like Korean army needs to have a lot of new weaponry for ground troops... their tanks and mobile artillery are looking good though
@@MusicIsLegal Korea has focused heavily on artillery for many centuries. It's kind of our tradition.
There is a well-known joke-nickname for MoD (Ministry of Defense) in Korea. People in Navy (including Marines) and Air Force call it "Ministry of Army-fense" because the land army takes all the good things. In the same manner, People in Army call it "Ministry of Artill-fense" because the artillery units get high priority.
Culture and conscription seem to lead to less delegation and more centralization in South Korean military units, so I’m not surprised that they don’t split into fire teams. I think he said the MG troop carries his own ammunition, but unless he’s woefully under supplied, that’s not likely. The boxes will be spread around the squad.
If Putin cannot get his forces to properly use the old Soviet tactics, it would be interesting to see if the Kim’s could do so. Hopefully, we won’t find out in either case.
Don't know how anyone could come to the conclusion that declining birthrates are due to inequality in the workplace, I mean, I'm from a country that have a pretty flat structure, where it's pretty normal to go get a friendly beer with your boss outside work and I'm all for it, however when looking throughout history, when women were practically only allowed to be secretaries and nurses this problem didn't exist, so it's likely something else, cost of living is a decent alternative, I would also argue having kids have been put down in priorities of what is taught to kids is important, you don't tell them to have a family, you tell them to get an education so they can get a career and then profit and freedom and green pastures.
I’d argue that the issue of women being paid less (mostly due to them taking lower-paying jobs) wasn’t nearly as much of an issue in the past, when the cost of living was low enough that a single working person could easily support a family of five. But with higher costs of living, it now takes two wages to live decently, and women earning less is a more pronounced issue.
There’s also the fact that birth rates consistently go down as living standards increase pretty much everywhere.
@@obiwankenobi4252 Among rich families who can afford only having one person work, they tend to only have 1-2 children. Neither does the wagegap (even taking the most extreme examples) make a big difference. It would at best be like if one of the parties involved got a promotion. It wouldn't fix it. People in poor countries also tend to have a lot of children and in fact poor people in general do as well. It largely seems to be an issue of what society have deemed important. We see a similar problem in some countries such as mine with regards to nobody wanting to get a job such as carpentry or bricklayers since it's believed that is for stupid people and they need to get a long education. It's a self made problem.
@@six2make4 I mean, yeah it’s a self-made problem, but one which is strictly linked with a nation’s level of development. Higher cost to raise a family means that people raise smaller families, hence fewer kids.
@@obiwankenobi4252 Yea, but higher living cost also typically mean higher wages. But the problem is that people fresh out of school are less likely to start a family because they can't afford to... YET. How this affects birth rate, well not quite sure there's research on this aspect. But presumably families just start later rather than not at all, but that's just speculation.
Nice video! I wonder if you could make videos about South American, African, and Southeast Asian militaries
365k is small?
Damn. Britain is a joke with 70k troops and 1 division.
South Korea is in a tough spot rn but it’s North Korea and china nearby
its small for a country with conscription. UK has volunteers.
S.Korea has 3 million reserves too.
Awsome news montage
Well at least they have an army. The Bundeswehr here in germany is joke compared to the korean army. It is called the "worst army of europe". Planes are not flying, rifles are not shooting. And we do not have spare parts for our outdated tanks. Yes we have the Leopard 2 A5, but the german government likes to sell them to other countries while buying old Leopards from the Nethrelands in return.
Fertility rates are at 0,3%. I know the south korean fertility rate is even lower. But if war would break out tomorrow, germany would be overruned within two weeks. In south korea the living costs are rising and people can barely sustain a familiy. It is the same in germany. In Japan nearly every second young man is virgin now. Germany is going the same way as japan.
As a man you can not sustain a family so no woman has interest in you. A man in the 50s could pay for his 7 children and his wife on his own. He had a house and a car. Today you are lucky when you can pay your rent as a man even without a house or a car. Family and children are not even an option with such low wages in germany.
And a lot of young men are ignored completely by young women in germany, because they do not earn enough. So yeah, defenetly no new young men for the army.
The idea of Germany buying old german tanks from The Netherlands is both funny and sad
exactly
If it's bad in Germany, how worse you think it would be in Japan lmao
I though german army is better than Roka during my entire my service
As a Korean, I would say that it is your luck to have a geopolitical position that does not need such a strong military.. Germany is surrounded by many friendly neighbors bound to the EU system and Russia is faraway from Berlin by now. If Russia attacks you, Poland, France, Italy, Spain, and many other European allies will not hesitate to help Germany. And I can't find any serious threat except for Russia that can militaristically invade Germany now. So, in my opinion, there's no reason for Germany to waste money to the military.
In South Korea, the situation is the opposite. We are surrounded by unreliable, if not hostile, countries. North Korea is our primary enemy with nukes in its hands, China wants to grab the entire Korean peninsula into its sphere of influence, and even Japan has not-so-good relationship with us in recent days. Every single country in the Asia-pacific region is annually increasing defense budget with a notable rate. If I were you, I would rather choose to have a weak military in a safe geopolitics than to have a strong military but being surrounded by bigger and hostile neighbors.
Thanks 😊
For lack of Conscription, there is simple answer for it
Just conscript women too
We do have some shitty problem for that. Gender stuff in Korea is most serious and senstive things. We've already tried that and trying it till now but the feminist are arging so badly that even the government tured their face.
Whoa so strange seeing Channel News Asia at the very start
Gender inequality is definitely not one of the reasons for a low birth rate.
Umm...🤔🤔 that's right, but our country is very inequality for man...because ours president and politiicians of the ruling party are feminist like New Zealand... moreover they stir up conflict between men and women. So, many people are fighting each other about gender issue... I hope ASAP the regime changes. The presidential election of the Republic of Korea will take place next year. Please pray for our country....
Everybody gangsta til they find out about the news that north korean spies were actually commanded to create gender inequality issues to decrease birthrates by Kim
I'm from Kctc. The North Korean soldiers in the video.
The kctc is a South Korean military, but it speaks North Korean.
We use North Korean tactics.
I think the quality of this video is very good.
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여자들도 군대 가고~ 그리고 젊은이들 잘 살게 해줘서 출산율 올리고, 사회 문제임.
очень верно подмечено
I feel 8 is the magic number that most military units at the squad level can use.
They should change their mandatory military service to take all able bodied citizens like Israel, not just male citizens. This would somewhat solve their problem. Plus I've a feeling it would solve another problem, less number of women would put plastic inside them or fight on behalf of BTS on twitter.
yep, it's all fun and games until another country invades you
한국인으로서 얘기하겠습니다. 당신의말에 대한 의견 이거와 똒같습니다. 미국에서도 모병제가아닌 징병제를 하라는것과
Since their most likely opponent is tech deficient, tech can be a huge force mul
SK just has to keep the fuel in the south and away from NK and any NK invasion will be a invasion by feet after the first two weeks. at which time, they will have complete mobility advantage.
The PLA intervention must be considered through
It is quite strange to me that the South Koreans hate conscription, I understand some of the logic but with a country like North Korea on your border why would you protest?
No one in history likes conscription during peace time
Piss poor service experiences trickling down the generations and as with any population's opinion of conscription/draft: egoism.
conscription, no matter the country is always unpopular, during war-times it's often somewhat accepted as a necessity for the army to bolster their numbers, but during peacetime acceptance falls gradually, both on the politics and on the civilian sides until it is so low that it gets gradually reduced until the addition of conscripts become dubious value to the army
From what I hear alot of people view it as a waste of time in their prime. Their plans for their occupation or education gets placed on hold.
However, the issues the South Korean military have still pales in comparison to North Korea's.
North Korea was only really an existential threat before the 80s. They were still dangerous after that, but the spectre of a large-scale invasion Korean War-style had long gone. I think it is more a nuisance than an life-or-death threat to today's South Korean.
It's amazing that it takes nine minutes to say what the change is. It should have been in the first ten seconds of the video.