Thanks a bundle for taking the time to provide these insightful observations and comparative analysis! Certainly rooting for you and a very strong recovery and long term wellness to you!!!
For reimbursable drugs, China’s policy is centralized government procurement. The government first negotiates with the pharmaceutical companies to buy and deliver to the hospital at the lowest price, and for the companies, access to the government procurement catalogue means a steady stream of sales and revenue (albeit at a low unit price)
glad to see yr comment appear first! And even happier to.see yr comment is POSITIVE....which is saying alot coming fm Westerners. 😀 👍🥰 btw, it's good that some well-known people, such as yrself, are commenting. I used to enjoy watching yr reporting on 60 mins. Nowadays, 60 mins seems "less professional" , ESPECIALLY 60 MINS AUSTRALIA....which is Very BIASED and has distorted the news -like much of western msm. Sad.
Most local Chinese have to pay a much higher price for foreign import medicine. And most of the more advance medicine will cost 'an arm and a leg' as the profit margin is very high amount the importer which are mainly dominate by big companies.
The doctors will get the results through online digital system at the first time. They read your results on computer. At the same time, the departments of different tests informed you to collect the results as well. The hard copy of test results took by patiences, the reason is for keeping a physical document themselves. If they want to consult with different doctors in another hospital, they can bring these material to describe their current health conditions and previous healthcare suggestions with these tests results.
In China, for the extreme poor people, there are some governmental projects and finance provided specifically. They still are able to get medical care service. Though, the service level might be the corresponding basic treatment to their health issue. In terms of lower income families, they can live themselves by working hard but don’t a large amount of deposits. For normal sickness or diseases, it is not a big deal. But for severe disease such as cancer, it might bring a financial pressure to this family, though 90% cost is covered by societal insurance. Thus, their quality of life might decline.(I hope these situations will be better in the future.) In previous Covid 19 pandemic period in Wuhan, China, the government knew what will the financial influences mean to majority families. Thus, the gov released new policy about the government will pay for all the Covid 19 treatment costs. ,In terms of a developing country, finance is a big issue. BTW, it’s good to know people working hard to let things getting better.
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Hi Lee, That's just the experience I had, when I needed treatment in China for getting knocked off my motorcycle in China. The speed of getting things done, x-rays, physio, blood tests, all done same day. To be honest, I would prefer treatment in China than UK.
My dad had less tests than you did done in Canada and it took two weeks after being admitted to the hospital, they found out it was cancer he passed three weeks after the diagnosis came out while staff did nothing, the healthcare system here literally kills.
Hi Lee, a minor correction. Most Chinese hospitals do have the option to provide meals for hospitalized patients (patients need to pay extra money for the meal plan, unlike in HK or the UK, where as far as I understand the cost of the meals is included in the overall bill of hospitalization). Many hospitals also have canteens that are open to patients as well. There are also professional carers in Chinese hospitals (at least in big ones). The differences are that all these services are optional (e.g., you can opt out of the meal plan, and you can choose not to hire a carer, though in my experience, most families would hire one even if they have someone staying with the patient at the hospital). The carers in Chinese hospitals might not have a full working contract with the hospital and do not count formally as hospital staff. So, sometimes patients who need further care after releasing from the hospital can hire the same person to come and work as hourly carers at home.
Keep strong Lee, may Good bless you for a quick recovery and back to a strong healthy life making more beautiful videos mirroring the truth about China.
Having had some minor medical treatment in China, what you say is very much in line with my experience. I did financially help with cost of treatment of my niece’s daughter when she fell and broke her leg. So good to see her running around when I was next in China
I think this is one of the best comparisons I've heard over the healthcare system between China and the UK. Buddy, I wish you a speedy recovery and look forward to seeing you as always
@Richard Zhang I doubt you have ever experienced living in China but an arm chair typist. It just happens that I lived there for 5 years and all comments on healthcare are true and make totally sense.
So glad to see you so healthy and full of life. We love you Lee❤️ May you and Oli be blessed with many, many, many more years of Love and Perfect Health. ☮️💚🌻💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼💕💕💕💕💕💕
When you have tests done, in all hospitals of which i am aware in China,, all results are attached to your computer file, however you need to pick up a hard copy from the relevant department who performed the test, which is usually available after around 2.30 pm in the afternoon. Of course urgent tests can be completed rapidly as directed by the doctor.
It is very true that China is still developing. I believe that if we develop to the level of developed countries, everyone will be able to get treatment. Of course, I don’t want to develop into free treatment, because we cannot raise lazy people in China, but I still hope that everyone will work hard to improve their lives.
I don't think free healtcare and strong wellfare programs makes people lazy. it's only giving people opppertunity and possibilites to try new things. without economic restrains and fear of economic uncertainties, Human nature will floorish and humans like to work to be produktive, creative and be part of an community.
@@mip6435 You may be right! I don't want to argue about anything. I just see that everything that people in the West have is free, but young people seem to have no hope. I will think whether people lose motivation after living too easily.
I live in Melbourne, Australia and I had gone to the hospital for serveral times here. Right after I born my baby, they did a surgery on me because some part of my placenta didn't came out. But one month later, i got very heavy bleeding and was sent to the emergency. I lost 2L blood and almost lost my conscious, but they made me wait there for more than an hour because there was no surgeon available. After my second surgery, they said it should be fine now as they took another part of placenta out. But a few hours later, I told them I was bleeding again. At first, the nurse said it's not bleeding a lot, so I had to wait until I bled a lot to get the third surgery. When I woke up, I was in intensive care. The only thing I was glad was I was still alive. They said several experienced specialists attend my surgery and they took out another piece of placenta. After these three surgeries, I got a lot of blood transfer and stayed in hospital for a long time. That was very bad and horrible memory. BTW, this hospital is Australia's first and leading specialist hospital for the health and wellbeing of women and newborn. So I would rather prefer speed and experience.
well. since the scale of the population of Aus and CN are different, Chinese docs see more illness, I dont want to say they are more skilled, but they are experienced,
Well exactly, your experience shows that the so called first world healthcare system which is often regarded as first rate and second to none isn't living up to its reputation. Actually, more and more Singapore and Hong Kong are turning out to be on the rise as first rate healthcare and more attention should be paid to what they are doing to improve the healthcare they provide. Many of the issues could be as simple as wrinkling out systemic bottle necks.
The quality of healthcare for a country that has a GDP per capita of only 12'000$ is incredible, they have an unbelievable system. Great work China keep up the great work!
There is a type of hospitalization called "full care", which means that the hospital will fully take care of the patient after discussion, including food, clothing, cleaning, and so on, but this is a fee for the services of a health care provider, not a medical fee and means high costs as well, which are usually not covered by health insurance, so family care means less cost.
Anything that can bring medical cost down is great. I don't mind to buy my own food and hire someone to help if we can have a less expensive system here in the US. It's way too expensive. It's about 200$ every time I visit my primary doctor for small things like a bad cold for about 20 minutes.
My Previous landlord had lymphoma, she went to a local hospital and they scheduled her a second test in 6month LOL... and this happened in Virginia, 20 mins outside of Washington, D.C. and I've been working in Healthcare research field for the last few years, plus my personal hospital experience, just want to say that American Healthcare is completely a joke.
Yes please keep watching Barrett and thinking in your mind how bad North America is, while they take money from the Chinese government to release only good information about China. Please, leave North America and go live there, while thousands will emigrate out of China to escape their authoritarian government, youd be better off living in a 6 square foot apartment. As a student of political science, it makes me sick watch shills like this garner sympathy from people who know no better.
@@ashleytrueman349 What??? First of all I didn't know that, second of all, this channel is composed of multiple creators, third of all, wtf does that have to do with the content he makes? Please shut your mouth.
The reason I like Lee's video is that his stories and opinions in the videos usually cover three sides, the good part, the bad part, and the neutral part. Unlike some vloggers in China who probably found the wealth code (saying something nice about China then get tons of views, likes and followers real quick), he's always staying modest in every video he made alone or with Oli. Information is truly valuable when it reflects facts in the real world, and that's why Barrett, the channel, stands out. All the best wishes to you, hope you recover real quick!
In China, you can also ask a caregiver to take care of you, but most Chinese think that only family care can make the patient feel more comfortable, so normally, patients will be taken care of by a family or a friend. And most hospitals provide food if you want. But most Chinese think the food hospital provides is not delicious or nutritious， so the family will provide food themselves...
Chinese people are some of the most health conscious people i know.. not just in China.. go to any parks or any open spaces in Asian cities from Singapore to Thailand you will see dozens of people doing their dancing routine or tai chi exercise.. they just don't want to be a burden to their family if you fall seriously ill.. you should have also mentioned Chinese traditional medicines that play a big part in supporting the modern medicines as we know it.. but i think not to far from now you could get an AI consultation at an instants.. pascal Coppens did a video on AI consultation a whilst back.. worth checking out..
Except for majority of ABC ChineseAmerican’s. Many of the senior citizens are overweight. From most of the pics they post on a Facebook, they eat too much and seldom exercise.
Thank you for putting out the video. Rest whenever you can and get fully recovered soon. I lived in the US and had few encounters with US hospitals. The costs of the treatments I had to deal with convinced me that the whole thing is an insurance scam.
There is always a chain effect. The more expensive hospitalization and doctor's fees will be the more the insurance fees so the more the insured have to pay. Unless the government can control the system well.
Great to see Lee making videos again and hope it continues, with more travelling soon. I've been to hospital 3 times in China. 1st time was with food poisoning and they put me in a bed straight away, at around 4.00a.m and put me on a drip and I was OK next day. Not that great ward, with mosquitoes and primitive toilet, but bearable. 2nd and 3rd time I went to a general hospital and saw a dr straight away, had blood tests and X Rays, with results within a few minutes, then went back to the dr, who gave me a prescription to get Chinese medicine-total time there about 45 minutes and cost about £3-both times.
Now everyone in China enjoys a medical insurance policy, including unemployed farmers, the elderly and children, who only need to pay 230 yuan to the local government every year to enjoy a 60%-80% reimbursement ratio.
In HK, public hospitals come with simple and basic meals when hospitalized, however, private hospitals don't include meals. they will have menu for you to order with extra cost.
I live in the U.S. and was a doctor in China before. That family physician/referral system in the U.S. is ridiculous and not efficient. I prefer to have my own test results. If the hospital owns your test results, you have to get tested again when go to a different hospital, which costs you more and wastes your time. I think Chinese people don't trust other people to take care of their family members. In general, Chinese doctors in a big city are much better than the doctors in the U.S. That's my perception.
Nice to see you! Thank you for sharing the medical treatment costs between UK and China. Put cost aside, please relax and work hard to enhance your health!
hi, Lee, glad to see you have a good recovery in China. in fact, the poorest people in China still have some medical insurrence, in rural areas it is called Xin Nong He; in cities, it is called Yi Lao Yi Xiao, you need to pay 100-500 yuan a year, and you could save 50%-70% percent of the money during the medical care.
Hope you are having speedy recovery. I think this has been my experience with australia health care system and china health care system as well. At the end of the day, ppl need to pay a bit more attention to their health.
Thank you Lee for bringing us another nice, informative and unbiased video on this interesting subject. I think you've done a good job in both introducing the UK health care system to us Chinese viewers, and summarizing the differences between the two health care systems. I hope that one day people in China can enjoy the same qualify of health care as in UK, free of charge and taking care of everything, but in light of the number of people being covered by the Chinese social insurance, that will mean a HUGE amount of money or financial burden, so I guess our economy still has a long way to go before we can achieve that.
Healthcare is not free in the UK whether you use the system or not you're paying for it through high taxation. The Chinese system is better where you can get 90% of the cost reimbursed.
So you are willing to pay 25% more tax out of your salary every month to exchange for completely free hospitalized service. But I am pretty much appreciated with the current system.
I'm in China. My monthly salary is 8000 yuan. So far, no one has asked me to pay taxes. I only need to pay the annual medical insurance, which is about 260 yuan. I went to a hospital for surgery, hernia surgery. I guess I should spend 3000 yuan, but I only spent 463 yuan because my medical insurance saved me 70%.
The UK's NHS has gone downhill rapidly. I have 3 relatives in the NHS, 2 pathologists and another I cannot reveal as there are only a few of them in the NHS and easily identified. In pathology, there's chronic understaffing. They are so stressed and pressured that you have to wonder if accurate diagnosis can be asked of them. 2-3mins per slide! It's crazy. It's unpaid overtime most of the time. The NHS pension system is so ridiculous that if you earn over limit, you actually start losing money! So they are resigning and working outside the grade. In fact, they are thinking of working as locums which will take the pressure off, but cost the NHS more. Apparently, it's the same in other specialities. It's so bad they have banned their offsprings from taking up a medical career.
Actually, Chinese doctors are probably more over worked, hence the low consultation and treatment fee (public hospitals being subsidized being another factor). This used to create a huge problem of Doctors "asking" for bribery and the cost of healthcare varying wildly based on the ethical standard of your physician. Although still overworked, the Chinese doctors are actually paid much better in the recent 10~20 years. Miraculously, the overall burden of cost of healthcare actually decreased at the same time.
What people don't realise is just how free the NHS compared to anywhere else. That's one of the reasons for the demand. The amount that the UK spends on the NHS is huge. There is no political appetite to change the system. It's nice to know that the treatment you get is free.
@@narendra62 I think the issue is that you don’t get it. Many people have paid privately because of the wait times. My gp wait time is 1 month for a consultation. In 1 month most issues will either be gone, or will have gotten a lot worse.
My auntie has breast cancer for 40 years. She's now 90 and has in good condition. she has till now had some soup made with wild mushrooms from Yunnan after surgery which held at her age of 52
When living in China, I visited three different hospitals over a course of many years in Guangzhou. I found the service and the cost to be amazing compared to America. I had spent thousands of dollars trying to get a simple diagnosis cured in America and one visit to a hospital in China they diagnosed it within a day and found that it was an allergic reaction to mushrooms that I ate on a daily basis. The one disappointment with the Chinese hospitals was the public restrooms had no soap or paper towels to dry your hands with. If there's any place that needed to be sanitary in my opinion it was the hospital. That being said I would choose most larger city hospitals in China over the local hospitals in America where I live now.
There is always a chain effect. The more expensive hospitalization and doctor's fees will be the more the insurance fees so the more the insured have to pay. Unless the government can control the system well.
It's not just China, I can't find any single country that has a health care system that is more expensive than in America. If you find the Chinese hospitals environment poor, you can go to the international medical centers. Most large hospitals have them, it will provide a similar good environment as in America. It's 2-3x more expensive, but still cheapter than in America.
China used to be too poor to afford toilet paper and sanitation products, but these days china is more wealthier and can afford these things. Of course if youre in the country side it will not always be there yet
In China, or at least in my city, everyone has a Social Security card that can be uesd in all public hospitals for payments covered by the system. Most big hospitals facilitate online booking of appointments, normal appointment or appiontment with an expert. Once made, a few hours of waiting in the hospital is expected. In big hospitals, almost everything is computerized. Test results not only come out very fast, but aslo can be accessed through both special terminal machines in the hospital and your mobile phones.
Had neck and shoulder pain for over a year now in Germany... finally managed to see a specialist... waited for 2 weeks for MRI appointment to rule out spine problems and then the doctor basically told me there is nothing wrong with me and I just need to endure the pain. If I could have done that myself without waking up in the middle of the night with stiff and sore neck, I wouldn't have gone to the doctor in the first place! I'm just waiting for COVID to end and China to ease travel restrictions so that I can go home and see a real doctor :(
@Naikomi bone structures misalignment causes many problems to human beings. The misplaced muscles and nerves, the bones may pinch some nerves or stressed group of muscles. Bone settings professionals or chiropractor may caused some short term discomfort or pain, but it certainly worthwhile to endure it for the longer term comfort of the body. Your brain does need some punches from the way you responded. It need some cleansing too, judging from your racist behaviour.
Many thanxs for another interesting video!! It was good to hear that surgery lies behind you. The way ahead with chemo- and radiotheraphy is what women will be offered in Germany after surgery, too. Your last two videos brought back lot’s of memories from 2002. I have 3 pieces of advise for you regarding your right arm. 1) We were told not to have the arm flat by our side when we lay down, but to always place a small cushion under the upper-arm to prevend the lymphe from storing and the arm from swelling. I have been using a small cushion for a number of years. 2) It’s good to train your arm daily to keep the lymphe flowing. Stretch your arm up as high as you can and make a fist - open the fist, close the fist and repeat a hundred times or more. This pumping movement is easy but effective. 3) Keep the fingers flexible and massage the acupuncture points in your hands. I have got two tiny qigong balls. I read that in China „hand toys“ (手把件shǒubǎjiàn) are very popular. I hope you might be able to find some suitable ones for you. 加油Jiāyóu! Greetings from Germany, Anna
Thanks for the video on comparing healthcare in China between UK. I live in US and my insurance does not cover dental, eye, ear, but do cover up to 90% of surgery and hospital stay. Even though I have Medicare and private insurances, I still have to pay out of pocket. I don't mine paying more tax like in UK & Canada to get free healthcare services. I believe US is run by the rich, of the rich and for the rich, not by the people, of the people, for the people. In short USA is not a democracy, it is a plutocracy.
There is always a chain effect. The more expensive hospitalization and doctor's fees will be the more the insurance fees so the more the insured have to pay. Unless the government can control the system well.
The cost of illness in China is high, but fortunately, the country’s centralized procurement has drastically reduced medical expenses. China has also universalized medical insurance, including rural areas, and only pays 300 RMB (50 US dollars) per year
@@loserking2631 1. Please provide your sources 2. Does the rise of the cost of insurance come with the rise of service? Is the increase of the cost of insurance go along with the increase of income in the region where you are referring to? I’m not trying to argue, nor am I saying you’re wrong, I believe the “rural healthcare” you’re referring to is the New Rural Cooperative Medical System (NRCMS), it has been implementing in rural china since 2003. The current Li Keqiang’s cabinet pushed that a patient can use his/her healthcare from his/her hometown in every city is china as he/she wishes in 2016.
My brother in Shanghai, when he was admitted, they served him food, may be has to book 1 day ahead. Otherwise, there is a shop selling all sorts of packed meals, cheap and delicious as I bought some home for dinner.
Currently in Canada, having some GI track related problems since January, and did tons of blood work tests and other related tests. Now is December, and I’m still waiting to see a gastroenterologist. The speed just drives me crazy as the symptoms never go away…
I would recommend Canadians to get a private health insurance that covers US care. You can drive to the US in a couple of hours, and the hospitals there would definitely not let you wait for a year.
Very informative, especially for someone who is living in the UK and eyeing China as a possible future place to live in. Looking forward to your return to full health, sir.
There is always a chain effect. The more expensive hospitalization and doctor's fees will be the more the insurance fees so the more the insured have to pay. Unless the government can control the system well.
I trust you are out of the woods now. You do look good. Take care. I did have a medical emergency when traveling in China some time back. You are correct. Medical services I received were fast, courteous, clearly explained and surprisingly inexpensive.
Here in US, we have to buy health insurance by law. Depending on your company work for. Big companies have better deal with insurance companies. For a couple ( two persons), cost around $400 to $1000 per month in average. Hospital bill is extremely high here in US, 10 days in ICU cost you at least $100,000.00 that is about $10,000 a day. Most hospital charge more than that though. Here doctors make too much though. A common doctor can make half million $ to one million $ per year easily.
My father had an accident at his 69 years old in China. He had stayed in ICU for more than 1 month and had a surgery because of hydrocephalus. The total cost (including hospital, ICU, surgery, medicine) was less than 120K rmb (US$20K). Because it's an accident and not covered by medical insurance in China. We had to split the cost with driver's auto insurance, and that's why I know the total cost.
There is always a chain effect. The more expensive hospitalization and doctor's fees will be the more the insurance fees so the more the insured have to pay. Unless the government can control the system well.
Another difference is that China's medical schools are all public schools (pretty much all higher education). The tuition fee for medical school is not different from other majors, it is very cheap and affordable. For example the tuition for Beijing University is less than US$1K a year + dorm fee of US$120 - 200, That's why many students from other developing countries are studying in China's medical schools (Tuition for international students is US$4.6K) . For a US doctor, he/she has to pay super high tuition for their 8 year education. The education cost can make the doctor's service very high
There are good and bad two sides of coin. I lived through both ( US and China). In US, the smartest people go to medical schools, that is opposite to China. Doctors, medical technology and medicines are top of the world, no doubt on this. But cost is skyrocketed. This is why people has to have medical insurance. Without it, one just cannot survive here in US. Also, doctor/hospital bills are way over stated usually. Say for a heart bypass surgery they may send you bill for total $350,000.00 but once go through Insurance company they will adjust the final agreeable cost in according with a market fair value and then they send a so-called “EOB” to both hospital and you. The adjusted cost actually maybe only $20,000.00 in this case. So, Insurence company pays that amount to the hospital and doctors. That’s it. You can imagine if one has no medical insurance in US how life would end up.
In 2020 with corvib19, a lot of elective surgeries, tests and procedures were canceled in Canadian hospitals. Now there's a hugh backlog. You need to wait a very long time. In China it's very fast. That's major difference now.
You are talking about the current Chinese medical system which was processed after 1998. Before 1998, the medical system in China was far better than the current one. The Medical system of China before 1998 was similar to the UK's medical system. I was in the hospital in China in the 1970s. The hospital provided 5 meals a day and the nurses took care of everything for the patients. Family members were only allowed to visit the patients.
Hi, Lee, I am glad to know that everything went smoothly for you and I hope you are on the way to a speedy recovery. You take care and all the best....cheers
A rare but useful insight into the healthcare system in China to inform outsiders and compare with their system at home. I think it's very efficient and is an important factor because nobody wants any agonising long waiting time when they are unwell. The other point I like is that patients bears a small cost and that's sufficient deterrent to abuse and encourages responsible lifestyle. What I don't like is that the very poor without social insurance have been neglected when they need the most help.
Thank you, Lee. Very clear information. Just one thing, I think most Chinese hospitals provide meals at a small cost, which patients will need to book in the morning. The food will be delivered to the ward. In Chinese culture, eating your home food is also a mean of comforting and healing. So people would prefer to eat their home made meals. But hospital canteen food helps busy working people. Very sorry to hear about your health problem. Wish you all the best after your treatment and recover soon.😊
Hi, Lee.Thank you for the basic comparison and introduction to the medical situation in China and the UK. What you said is basically correct, but there is one small detail that needs to be corrected. For those who are not formally employed, such as farmers, they only have to pay a few hundred RMB per year to get a medical insurance from the government. This insurance is not available for minor illnesses, such as teeth. However, when treating major illnesses in the hospital in your city, i.e. those that are expensive, you receive a higher rate of reimbursement, which can vary from 60 to 90 per cent. So it is not objective to say that people who do not have a job cannot pay for their own medical treatment, they only have to pay a very low premium to receive a high percentage of reimbursement from the government for major illnesses. It's just that this insurance doesn't cover as much as those who pay for formal health insurance who work in a business, and it can only be used in the city of domicile. 你好，感谢你对中英的医疗情况做了基本的对比和介绍。你说的基本是对的，但是有一点小细节需要纠正。对于那些没有正式工作的人，比如农民，只需要每年支付几百人民币，就可以得到一份来自政府的医疗保险。这个保险在小病上不能用，比如牙齿。但是当在所在城市的医院治疗大病时，也就是治疗那些花费昂贵的疾病时，获得较高的报销比例，这个比例大概在百分之60到百分之90不等。所以说，没有工作的人没法需要自己出钱看病是不客观的，他们只需要支付很低的保险金，就可以获得一份来自政府的报销比例很高的大病保障。只是这个保险的覆盖范围，不像那些在企业工作的交正式医疗保险的人那么大，而且只能在户籍所在城市使用。
Lee看起来身体恢复的很好啊,明显的变化,祝健康! 感谢你分享的内容,相信会帮助到一些人
Wishing you a speedy recovery. YOU GOT THE POWER, LEE.
老李气色恢复的不错！继续加油早日康健！感谢老李介绍的英国医疗体系！
Thanks a bundle for taking the time to provide these insightful observations and comparative analysis!
Certainly rooting for you and a very strong recovery and long term wellness to you!!!
For reimbursable drugs, China’s policy is centralized government procurement. The government first negotiates with the pharmaceutical companies to buy and deliver to the hospital at the lowest price, and for the companies, access to the government procurement catalogue means a steady stream of sales and revenue (albeit at a low unit price)
Same as Canada. Of course US is a market economy
Canada does the same! I am SO THANKFUL.
glad to see yr comment appear first! And even happier to.see yr comment is POSITIVE....which is saying alot coming fm Westerners. 😀 👍🥰
btw, it's good that some well-known people, such as yrself, are commenting. I used to enjoy watching yr reporting on 60 mins. Nowadays, 60 mins seems "less professional" , ESPECIALLY 60 MINS AUSTRALIA....which is Very BIASED and has distorted the news -like much of western msm. Sad.
@@thetruthandnobs2 Well thanks for your comment, but I had to say that I'm not Wallace himself 😂
Most local Chinese have to pay a much higher price for foreign import medicine. And most of the more advance medicine will cost 'an arm and a leg' as the profit margin is very high amount the importer which are mainly dominate by big companies.
I am often impressed by Lee’s ability to explain something complicated in a logical ,clear way. very solid and easy to understanding.
見到你這樣精神真好了！希望你也好好休息早日痊癒就可以拍更好的視頻給我們看，我們都很喜歡你兩父子的記住不要太忙好好保重身體！祝你們生活愉快平安幸福😃💯❤️
The doctors will get the results through online digital system at the first time. They read your results on computer. At the same time, the departments of different tests informed you to collect the results as well. The hard copy of test results took by patiences, the reason is for keeping a physical document themselves. If they want to consult with different doctors in another hospital, they can bring these material to describe their current health conditions and previous healthcare suggestions with these tests results.
In China, for the extreme poor people, there are some governmental projects and finance provided specifically. They still are able to get medical care service. Though, the service level might be the corresponding basic treatment to their health issue.
In terms of lower income families, they can live themselves by working hard but don’t a large amount of deposits. For normal sickness or diseases, it is not a big deal. But for severe disease such as cancer, it might bring a financial pressure to this family, though 90% cost is covered by societal insurance. Thus, their quality of life might decline.(I hope these situations will be better in the future.) In previous Covid 19 pandemic period in Wuhan, China, the government knew what will the financial influences mean to majority families. Thus, the gov released new policy about the government will pay for all the Covid 19 treatment costs.
,In terms of a developing country, finance is a big issue. BTW, it’s good to know people working hard to let things getting better.
中国人写的英文果然更容易理解。。
@@maiyatang 哈哈，可能真的是思维问题
@@maiyatang 笑死了
That was really informative. Thanks lee. Looking good brother
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希望你在中国得到很好的治疗，祝你早日康复
Hi Lee, Its good to see that your energy level is up and you are recovering well. Here's wishing you get well soon
Hi Lee,
That's just the experience I had, when I needed treatment in China for getting knocked off my motorcycle in China.
The speed of getting things done, x-rays, physio, blood tests, all done same day.
To be honest, I would prefer treatment in China than UK.
That's why our system is way superior than UK, proud of China.
My dad had less tests than you did done in Canada and it took two weeks after being admitted to the hospital, they found out it was cancer he passed three weeks after the diagnosis came out while staff did nothing, the healthcare system here literally kills.
@@fattyacid1901 healthcare in Canada is honestly bad, same with us healthcare
@kamasutra poetic justice Why would you make healthcare profitable? It's healthcare ffs.
@Richard Zhang Never experienced this before, all the chinese doctors I met are very responsible and experienced.
Hi Lee, a minor correction. Most Chinese hospitals do have the option to provide meals for hospitalized patients (patients need to pay extra money for the meal plan, unlike in HK or the UK, where as far as I understand the cost of the meals is included in the overall bill of hospitalization). Many hospitals also have canteens that are open to patients as well. There are also professional carers in Chinese hospitals (at least in big ones). The differences are that all these services are optional (e.g., you can opt out of the meal plan, and you can choose not to hire a carer, though in my experience, most families would hire one even if they have someone staying with the patient at the hospital). The carers in Chinese hospitals might not have a full working contract with the hospital and do not count formally as hospital staff. So, sometimes patients who need further care after releasing from the hospital can hire the same person to come and work as hourly carers at home.
I do prefer the options available.
The food in some hospitals are pretty good and affordable . Even after my mother got out of the hospital we still went back to buy food there.
My mom purchased some meals after her cancer operation. Thanks God, she is pretty healthy.
@@xintian2299 oh hahahaha that made me laugh!
绝大多数都是亲人照顾，哪有都找护工的，怕不是在超一流的医院
Keep strong Lee, may Good bless you for a quick recovery and back to a strong healthy life making more beautiful videos mirroring the truth about China.
加油、早日康复！
Having had some minor medical treatment in China, what you say is very much in line with my experience. I did financially help with cost of treatment of my niece’s daughter when she fell and broke her leg. So good to see her running around when I was next in China
I think this is one of the best comparisons I've heard over the healthcare system between China and the UK. Buddy, I wish you a speedy recovery and look forward to seeing you as always
@Richard Zhang I doubt you have ever experienced living in China but an arm chair typist. It just happens that I lived there for 5 years and all comments on healthcare are true and make totally sense.
So glad to see you so healthy and full of life. We love you Lee❤️ May you and Oli be blessed with many, many, many more years of Love and Perfect Health.
☮️💚🌻💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼💕💕💕💕💕💕
When you have tests done, in all hospitals of which i am aware in China,, all results are attached to your computer file, however you need to pick up a hard copy from the relevant department who performed the test, which is usually available after around 2.30 pm in the afternoon. Of course urgent tests can be completed rapidly as directed by the doctor.
It is very true that China is still developing. I believe that if we develop to the level of developed countries, everyone will be able to get treatment. Of course, I don’t want to develop into free treatment, because we cannot raise lazy people in China, but I still hope that everyone will work hard to improve their lives.
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@@weizhang2834 戾气好重
I don't think free healtcare and strong wellfare programs makes people lazy. it's only giving people opppertunity and possibilites to try new things.
without economic restrains and fear of economic uncertainties, Human nature will floorish and humans like to work to be produktive, creative and be part of an community.
@@mip6435 You may be right! I don't want to argue about anything. I just see that everything that people in the West have is free, but young people seem to have no hope. I will think whether people lose motivation after living too easily.
@@Tom-mw9hm How about the US, the most richest and powerful country, why it is not universal Medical free?
香港也是和英國差不多，任何人都可以免費接受政府醫院治療。只是按病情嚴重程度分順序安排治療，較輕者等候治療時間就係比較久。但絕大部份香港人都買保險去私家醫院治療，1是不用等；2是可以選擇醫生；（政府醫院不可以選擇）3是可以選擇房間、床位。
感谢老李对英国医保的介绍。在中国除了城镇居民医保外，还有农村医疗保险。主要针对没有工作单位的农村人口。祝老李早日康复！
我记得好像叫新农合医保，每年大概100多元，可以有60%的费用费用报销额度吧
@@joshualiu4854 今年涨到600了.杨州
@@joshualiu4854 今年贵阳涨到900了，政府补贴580，自费320
I live in Melbourne, Australia and I had gone to the hospital for serveral times here. Right after I born my baby, they did a surgery on me because some part of my placenta didn't came out. But one month later, i got very heavy bleeding and was sent to the emergency. I lost 2L blood and almost lost my conscious, but they made me wait there for more than an hour because there was no surgeon available. After my second surgery, they said it should be fine now as they took another part of placenta out. But a few hours later, I told them I was bleeding again. At first, the nurse said it's not bleeding a lot, so I had to wait until I bled a lot to get the third surgery. When I woke up, I was in intensive care. The only thing I was glad was I was still alive. They said several experienced specialists attend my surgery and they took out another piece of placenta. After these three surgeries, I got a lot of blood transfer and stayed in hospital for a long time. That was very bad and horrible memory. BTW, this hospital is Australia's first and leading specialist hospital for the health and wellbeing of women and newborn. So I would rather prefer speed and experience.
well. since the scale of the population of Aus and CN are different, Chinese docs see more illness, I dont want to say they are more skilled, but they are experienced,
Well exactly, your experience shows that the so called first world healthcare system which is often regarded as first rate and second to none isn't living up to its reputation. Actually, more and more Singapore and Hong Kong are turning out to be on the rise as first rate healthcare and more attention should be paid to what they are doing to improve the healthcare they provide. Many of the issues could be as simple as wrinkling out systemic bottle necks.
Is that for free or u hv to pay?
在米国，医疗事故死亡率达到19%
I am so sorry to hear about your suffered.😟
Thank you for sharing your own experience and giving an objective comparison.
The quality of healthcare for a country that has a GDP per capita of only 12'000$ is incredible, they have an unbelievable system. Great work China keep up the great work!
There is a type of hospitalization called "full care", which means that the hospital will fully take care of the patient after discussion, including food, clothing, cleaning, and so on, but this is a fee for the services of a health care provider, not a medical fee and means high costs as well, which are usually not covered by health insurance, so family care means less cost.
正解
@AI Chopper 不然呢
@AI Chopper 这应该是属于服务费，不包含在医疗保险里的，视频中说的那需要自己掏钱的10%也属于服务费，比如挂号费，床位费，卫生费什么的。如果交给医院全权护理，相当于从医院雇一个人帮忙护理，这就需要额外支付了。是不包含在医疗保险里的
Anything that can bring medical cost down is great. I don't mind to buy my own food and hire someone to help if we can have a less expensive system here in the US. It's way too expensive. It's about 200$ every time I visit my primary doctor for small things like a bad cold for about 20 minutes.
There will be differences everywhere. Just be glad you are not in the US. And glad to see you doing well.
My Previous landlord had lymphoma, she went to a local hospital and they scheduled her a second test in 6month LOL... and this happened in Virginia, 20 mins outside of Washington, D.C. and I've been working in Healthcare research field for the last few years, plus my personal hospital experience, just want to say that American Healthcare is completely a joke.
Yes please keep watching Barrett and thinking in your mind how bad North America is, while they take money from the Chinese government to release only good information about China. Please, leave North America and go live there, while thousands will emigrate out of China to escape their authoritarian government, youd be better off living in a 6 square foot apartment. As a student of political science, it makes me sick watch shills like this garner sympathy from people who know no better.
@@Borgia5119 your comment shows the type of person you are. Able to criticise somebody who is going through cancer treatment? Sick individual.
@@Borgia5119 as a student of political political science would you call the US a democracy or a plutocracy?
@@ashleytrueman349 What??? First of all I didn't know that, second of all, this channel is composed of multiple creators, third of all, wtf does that have to do with the content he makes? Please shut your mouth.
另一个区别是医疗系统的效率。 我和我母亲几乎同时得了鼻窦炎。在北京的母亲再一周内见专科医生、做完了CT和核磁的诊断。然后回家吃药，两三周就好了。 我在加拿大，等CT 检查的waiting list 已经拍到6个月后，要见specialist需要等待15到18个月。 基本上，要有大病就直接被拖死了
很多人死后排上队了
很客观的评价了，按照中国医院的病人流转率和流量来说，如果和英国一样的话，需要同步配套无数个高标准酒店＋养老院....还是那句话，任何一个小小的需求或者改变如果乘以十四亿的话那就是一个巨大的变化了^_^
Thanks for the info. All the best with everything. You guys are legends.
Good to see you well Lee.
What a splendid and clear explanation!
The reason I like Lee's video is that his stories and opinions in the videos usually cover three sides, the good part, the bad part, and the neutral part. Unlike some vloggers in China who probably found the wealth code (saying something nice about China then get tons of views, likes and followers real quick), he's always staying modest in every video he made alone or with Oli. Information is truly valuable when it reflects facts in the real world, and that's why Barrett, the channel, stands out. All the best wishes to you, hope you recover real quick!
In China, you can also ask a caregiver to take care of you, but most Chinese think that only family care can make the patient feel more comfortable, so normally, patients will be taken care of by a family or a friend. And most hospitals provide food if you want. But most Chinese think the food hospital provides is not delicious or nutritious， so the family will provide food themselves...
Nowadays it's actually quite common for a family to hire private caregivers to take care of a sick family member.
Food in Chinese hospitals is good and cheap.
@@jzvr5842 病人有时会想吃一些大补的，医院不一定会有，比如鲫鱼豆腐汤啊，甲鱼汤啊，大补
介绍的十分详细，很感谢你将中国真正的讯息传递给英国或欧美人。也希望他们能认识到一个真正的中国，以免受当地政治媒体的误导。
Chinese people are some of the most health conscious people i know.. not just in China.. go to any parks or any open spaces in Asian cities from Singapore to Thailand you will see dozens of people doing their dancing routine or tai chi exercise.. they just don't want to be a burden to their family if you fall seriously ill.. you should have also mentioned Chinese traditional medicines that play a big part in supporting the modern medicines as we know it.. but i think not to far from now you could get an AI consultation at an instants.. pascal Coppens did a video on AI consultation a whilst back.. worth checking out..
Agree..
Except for majority of ABC ChineseAmerican’s. Many of the senior citizens are overweight. From most of the pics they post on a Facebook, they eat too much and seldom exercise.
smoking rates are very high though, about half of Chinese men smoke
Thank you for putting out the video. Rest whenever you can and get fully recovered soon. I lived in the US and had few encounters with US hospitals. The costs of the treatments I had to deal with convinced me that the whole thing is an insurance scam.
There is always a chain effect. The more expensive hospitalization and doctor's fees will be the more the insurance fees so the more the insured have to pay. Unless the government can control the system well.
Hi Lee ! I wish you a speedy recovery and like your video.Thanks
Lovely to see you back here!💪👍💕
Great to see Lee making videos again and hope it continues, with more travelling soon. I've been to hospital 3 times in China. 1st time was with food poisoning and they put me in a bed straight away, at around 4.00a.m and put me on a drip and I was OK next day. Not that great ward, with mosquitoes and primitive toilet, but bearable. 2nd and 3rd time I went to a general hospital and saw a dr straight away, had blood tests and X Rays, with results within a few minutes, then went back to the dr, who gave me a prescription to get Chinese medicine-total time there about 45 minutes and cost about £3-both times.
If you in UK you can only go to A&E like GP will ignore you as always
中国政府向来对外国人比对国民好，国民据腿没钱治疗他们装作看不见，真他妈恶心
@@菜中文-f6k 有些住在穷乡僻壤的贫苦农民新政策接受不到位，中国对低保户和五保户都有普通医疗保险和大病险报销，而且现在普遍农民都有新农合报销。不过有一些极端的比如失孤高龄老人不知道信息、某些特困农村村干部普惠政策不及时等情况也是有可能发生。“锯腿”这种事件怎么可能没有后续解决？社会事件有很多被报道出来都有后续的，只是媒体不报道罢了，因为没有流量，不吸引人眼球。外国人在中国看病如果没有工作参加保险也是全款自费的。不过引进一些“洋垃圾留学生”确实恶心。
@@菜中文-f6k 被害妄想症吗？没去过中国还是没去过医院
@@菜中文-f6k 外国人看病还得自费呢？农村地区看病是比较难，视频里也说了，因为医疗资源都集中在大城市。但是现在农村都有新农合医保了。去真正的贫困地区看看就知道，毕竟是发展中国家，还有很多边远山区没有脱贫，有些小乡村的老人生病了都不知道低保可以报销。
Now everyone in China enjoys a medical insurance policy, including unemployed farmers, the elderly and children, who only need to pay 230 yuan to the local government every year to enjoy a 60%-80% reimbursement ratio.
In HK, public hospitals come with simple and basic meals when hospitalized, however, private hospitals don't include meals. they will have menu for you to order with extra cost.
We love you Dear Lee. All the best wishes for you! Hugs
Thank you for the invaluable info. The info would definitely helps thousands of people. Get well soon & take care.
I live in the U.S. and was a doctor in China before. That family physician/referral system in the U.S. is ridiculous and not efficient. I prefer to have my own test results. If the hospital owns your test results, you have to get tested again when go to a different hospital, which costs you more and wastes your time. I think Chinese people don't trust other people to take care of their family members. In general, Chinese doctors in a big city are much better than the doctors in the U.S. That's my perception.
美国公立医院医疗事故率19%，我身边认识的人就发生两起了
great to see you back and fair points on both system.
Like your honest and truthful stories. Wish you a healthy recover!
Nice to see you! Thank you for sharing the medical treatment costs between UK and China.
Put cost aside, please relax and work hard to enhance your health!
hi, Lee, glad to see you have a good recovery in China. in fact, the poorest people in China still have some medical insurrence, in rural areas it is called Xin Nong He; in cities, it is called Yi Lao Yi Xiao, you need to pay 100-500 yuan a year, and you could save 50%-70% percent of the money during the medical care.
Lee 大叔，你康复的非常好，祝你早日康复，拍更多正面正能量的视频，让更多外国朋友可以了解我们中国，而不是西方媒体抹黑造假的那样，谢谢😁
Hope you are having speedy recovery. I think this has been my experience with australia health care system and china health care system as well. At the end of the day, ppl need to pay a bit more attention to their health.
Thank you for the comparison!
Thank you Lee for bringing us another nice, informative and unbiased video on this interesting subject. I think you've done a good job in both introducing the UK health care system to us Chinese viewers, and summarizing the differences between the two health care systems. I hope that one day people in China can enjoy the same qualify of health care as in UK, free of charge and taking care of everything, but in light of the number of people being covered by the Chinese social insurance, that will mean a HUGE amount of money or financial burden, so I guess our economy still has a long way to go before we can achieve that.
Don’t forget you pay your income tax every month. That is your money
Healthcare is not free in the UK whether you use the system or not you're paying for it through high taxation. The Chinese system is better where you can get 90% of the cost reimbursed.
So you are willing to pay 25% more tax out of your salary every month to exchange for completely free hospitalized service. But I am pretty much appreciated with the current system.
I'm in China. My monthly salary is 8000 yuan. So far, no one has asked me to pay taxes. I only need to pay the annual medical insurance, which is about 260 yuan. I went to a hospital for surgery, hernia surgery. I guess I should spend 3000 yuan, but I only spent 463 yuan because my medical insurance saved me 70%.
Amazing comparison! Thank you Lee, I wish you can speedy recover! Best wishes to you and your son!
说的很中肯，祝你身体健康，早点好起来❤️❤️❤️👍👍👍
Very helpful 👍👍👍
The UK's NHS has gone downhill rapidly. I have 3 relatives in the NHS, 2 pathologists and another I cannot reveal as there are only a few of them in the NHS and easily identified. In pathology, there's chronic understaffing. They are so stressed and pressured that you have to wonder if accurate diagnosis can be asked of them. 2-3mins per slide! It's crazy. It's unpaid overtime most of the time. The NHS pension system is so ridiculous that if you earn over limit, you actually start losing money! So they are resigning and working outside the grade. In fact, they are thinking of working as locums which will take the pressure off, but cost the NHS more. Apparently, it's the same in other specialities. It's so bad they have banned their offsprings from taking up a medical career.
Actually, Chinese doctors are probably more over worked, hence the low consultation and treatment fee (public hospitals being subsidized being another factor). This used to create a huge problem of Doctors "asking" for bribery and the cost of healthcare varying wildly based on the ethical standard of your physician. Although still overworked, the Chinese doctors are actually paid much better in the recent 10~20 years. Miraculously, the overall burden of cost of healthcare actually decreased at the same time.
What people don't realise is just how free the NHS compared to anywhere else. That's one of the reasons for the demand. The amount that the UK spends on the NHS is huge. There is no political appetite to change the system. It's nice to know that the treatment you get is free.
@@narendra62 I think the issue is that you don’t get it. Many people have paid privately because of the wait times. My gp wait time is 1 month for a consultation. In 1 month most issues will either be gone, or will have gotten a lot worse.
My auntie has breast cancer for 40 years. She's now 90 and has in good condition. she has till now had some soup made with wild mushrooms from Yunnan after surgery which held at her age of 52
very insightful explanation. thanks barett and hope a speedy recovery.
Our very best wishes to you for the new year.
When living in China, I visited three different hospitals over a course of many years in Guangzhou. I found the service and the cost to be amazing compared to America. I had spent thousands of dollars trying to get a simple diagnosis cured in America and one visit to a hospital in China they diagnosed it within a day and found that it was an allergic reaction to mushrooms that I ate on a daily basis. The one disappointment with the Chinese hospitals was the public restrooms had no soap or paper towels to dry your hands with. If there's any place that needed to be sanitary in my opinion it was the hospital. That being said I would choose most larger city hospitals in China over the local hospitals in America where I live now.
There is always a chain effect. The more expensive hospitalization and doctor's fees will be the more the insurance fees so the more the insured have to pay. Unless the government can control the system well.
It's not just China, I can't find any single country that has a health care system that is more expensive than in America. If you find the Chinese hospitals environment poor, you can go to the international medical centers. Most large hospitals have them, it will provide a similar good environment as in America. It's 2-3x more expensive, but still cheapter than in America.
China used to be too poor to afford toilet paper and sanitation products, but these days china is more wealthier and can afford these things. Of course if youre in the country side it will not always be there yet
In China, or at least in my city, everyone has a Social Security card that can be uesd in all public hospitals for payments covered by the system.
Most big hospitals facilitate online booking of appointments, normal appointment or appiontment with an expert. Once made, a few hours of waiting in the hospital is expected.
In big hospitals, almost everything is computerized. Test results not only come out very fast, but aslo can be accessed through both special terminal machines in the hospital and your mobile phones.
Amazing video. Keep up the good work. Support
Glad to learn that your treatment went well, amigo.
Had neck and shoulder pain for over a year now in Germany... finally managed to see a specialist... waited for 2 weeks for MRI appointment to rule out spine problems and then the doctor basically told me there is nothing wrong with me and I just need to endure the pain. If I could have done that myself without waking up in the middle of the night with stiff and sore neck, I wouldn't have gone to the doctor in the first place! I'm just waiting for COVID to end and China to ease travel restrictions so that I can go home and see a real doctor :(
Try consulting a chiropractor. To set your body bones structure. It may just be a minor issue that causes major discomfort.
@Naikomi bone structures misalignment causes many problems to human beings. The misplaced muscles and nerves, the bones may pinch some nerves or stressed group of muscles. Bone settings professionals or chiropractor may caused some short term discomfort or pain, but it certainly worthwhile to endure it for the longer term comfort of the body.
Your brain does need some punches from the way you responded. It need some cleansing too, judging from your racist behaviour.
Many thanxs for another interesting video!! It was good to hear that surgery lies behind you. The way ahead with chemo- and radiotheraphy is what women will be offered in Germany after surgery, too. Your last two videos brought back lot’s of memories from 2002. I have 3 pieces of advise for you regarding your right arm.
1) We were told not to have the arm flat by our side when we lay down, but to always place a small cushion under the upper-arm to prevend the lymphe from storing and the arm from swelling. I have been using a small cushion for a number of years.
2) It’s good to train your arm daily to keep the lymphe flowing. Stretch your arm up as high as you can and make a fist - open the fist, close the fist and repeat a hundred times or more. This pumping movement is easy but effective.
3) Keep the fingers flexible and massage the acupuncture points in your hands. I have got two tiny qigong balls. I read that in China „hand toys“ (手把件shǒubǎjiàn) are very popular. I hope you might be able to find some suitable ones for you.
加油Jiāyóu! Greetings from Germany, Anna
Thanks for clearing that up.
Thanks for those information!
Good luck with your treatment!
Thanks for the video on comparing healthcare in China between UK. I live in US and my insurance does not cover dental, eye, ear, but do cover up to 90% of surgery and hospital stay. Even though I have Medicare and private insurances, I still have to pay out of pocket. I don't mine paying more tax like in UK & Canada to get free healthcare services. I believe US is run by the rich, of the rich and for the rich, not by the people, of the people, for the people. In short USA is not a democracy, it is a plutocracy.
There is always a chain effect. The more expensive hospitalization and doctor's fees will be the more the insurance fees so the more the insured have to pay. Unless the government can control the system well.
Thank you for the details and hope you get well soon.
U did a great job on a cost & system analysis comparison,,,
祝你早日康复
The cost of illness in China is high, but fortunately, the country’s centralized procurement has drastically reduced medical expenses. China has also universalized medical insurance, including rural areas, and only pays 300 RMB (50 US dollars) per year
Yes thank to the current cabinet since 2013
If the cost of healthcare in China is high then cost of usa must have left the solar system by now 😂
@@ramenfit5983 Rural medical insurance did not start in 2013. It used to cost only dozens of yuan, but now the price is rising every year.
@@loserking2631 1. Please provide your sources 2. Does the rise of the cost of insurance come with the rise of service? Is the increase of the cost of insurance go along with the increase of income in the region where you are referring to? I’m not trying to argue, nor am I saying you’re wrong, I believe the “rural healthcare” you’re referring to is the New Rural Cooperative Medical System (NRCMS), it has been implementing in rural china since 2003. The current Li Keqiang’s cabinet pushed that a patient can use his/her healthcare from his/her hometown in every city is china as he/she wishes in 2016.
@@rickyspanish2046 在中国随便检查一下就2000人民币你说高不高、在看下收入平均月收入收入5000、都快高出银河系了
Good to see you again !
Wishing you a speedy recovery! Thoughts and prayers!
You sir, are looking good. So happy to see that.
Speedy recovery, Lee! Hope you're back to your normal self and start making traveling again.
My brother in Shanghai, when he was admitted, they served him food, may be has to book 1 day ahead. Otherwise, there is a shop selling all sorts of packed meals, cheap and delicious as I bought some home for dinner.
Currently in Canada, having some GI track related problems since January, and did tons of blood work tests and other related tests. Now is December, and I’m still waiting to see a gastroenterologist. The speed just drives me crazy as the symptoms never go away…
I would recommend Canadians to get a private health insurance that covers US care. You can drive to the US in a couple of hours, and the hospitals there would definitely not let you wait for a year.
Very informative, especially for someone who is living in the UK and eyeing China as a possible future place to live in. Looking forward to your return to full health, sir.
Thank you very much...
Conclusion, anyone who experienced USA health care system would have zero complaint to the Chinese sys.
There is always a chain effect. The more expensive hospitalization and doctor's fees will be the more the insurance fees so the more the insured have to pay. Unless the government can control the system well.
Thanks for another informative video, Lee. Also, glad to see you are recovering well too.
I trust you are out of the woods now. You do look good. Take care. I did have a medical emergency when traveling in China some time back. You are correct. Medical services I received were fast, courteous, clearly explained and surprisingly inexpensive.
I didn't expect you to talk for that long so, yeah, good sign you're recovering well 👍🏼👏🏼
True to the bits Very fair and detailed
hey, Lee, you look great ! All the best.
Glad to see you are getting better. The video is really informative. Thanks for the hard work thanks again
深切的問候，永遠的支持，愿您健康長寿
Totally agree with you. In china, too many many people, and still many issues. but get better and better.
Here in US, we have to buy health insurance by law. Depending on your company work for. Big companies have better deal with insurance companies. For a couple ( two persons), cost around $400 to $1000 per month in average. Hospital bill is extremely high here in US, 10 days in ICU cost you at least $100,000.00 that is about $10,000 a day. Most hospital charge more than that though. Here doctors make too much though. A common doctor can make half million $ to one million $ per year easily.
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My father had an accident at his 69 years old in China. He had stayed in ICU for more than 1 month and had a surgery because of hydrocephalus. The total cost (including hospital, ICU, surgery, medicine) was less than 120K rmb (US$20K). Because it's an accident and not covered by medical insurance in China. We had to split the cost with driver's auto insurance, and that's why I know the total cost.
There is always a chain effect. The more expensive hospitalization and doctor's fees will be the more the insurance fees so the more the insured have to pay. Unless the government can control the system well.
Another difference is that China's medical schools are all public schools (pretty much all higher education). The tuition fee for medical school is not different from other majors, it is very cheap and affordable. For example the tuition for Beijing University is less than US$1K a year + dorm fee of US$120 - 200, That's why many students from other developing countries are studying in China's medical schools (Tuition for international students is US$4.6K) . For a US doctor, he/she has to pay super high tuition for their 8 year education. The education cost can make the doctor's service very high
There are good and bad two sides of coin. I lived through both ( US and China). In US, the smartest people go to medical schools, that is opposite to China. Doctors, medical technology and medicines are top of the world, no doubt on this. But cost is skyrocketed. This is why people has to have medical insurance. Without it, one just cannot survive here in US. Also, doctor/hospital bills are way over stated usually. Say for a heart bypass surgery they may send you bill for total $350,000.00 but once go through Insurance company they will adjust the final agreeable cost in according with a market fair value and then they send a so-called “EOB” to both hospital and you. The adjusted cost actually maybe only $20,000.00 in this case. So, Insurence company pays that amount to the hospital and doctors. That’s it. You can imagine if one has no medical insurance in US how life would end up.
In 2020 with corvib19, a lot of elective surgeries, tests and procedures were canceled in Canadian hospitals. Now there's a hugh backlog. You need to wait a very long time. In China it's very fast. That's major difference now.
Happy new year to you both Lee , hope you doing well , cheers Mike
That’s true to both systems as my own experiences. Very informative.
You are talking about the current Chinese medical system which was processed after 1998. Before 1998, the medical system in China was far better than the current one. The Medical system of China before 1998 was similar to the UK's medical system. I was in the hospital in China in the 1970s. The hospital provided 5 meals a day and the nurses took care of everything for the patients. Family members were only allowed to visit the patients.
很高兴看到你恢复地很棒，看起来您的气色很好。
Hi, Lee, I am glad to know that everything went smoothly for you and I hope you are on the way to a speedy recovery. You take care and all the best....cheers
All the best to you my friend, I hope your recovering well. Thanks for this interesting information.
A rare but useful insight into the healthcare system in China to inform outsiders and compare with their system at home. I think it's very efficient and is an important factor because nobody wants any agonising long waiting time when they are unwell. The other point I like is that patients bears a small cost and that's sufficient deterrent to abuse and encourages responsible lifestyle. What I don't like is that the very poor without social insurance have been neglected when they need the most help.
Thank you, Lee. Very clear information. Just one thing, I think most Chinese hospitals provide meals at a small cost, which patients will need to book in the morning. The food will be delivered to the ward. In Chinese culture, eating your home food is also a mean of comforting and healing. So people would prefer to eat their home made meals. But hospital canteen food helps busy working people. Very sorry to hear about your health problem. Wish you all the best after your treatment and recover soon.😊
Hi, Lee.Thank you for the basic comparison and introduction to the medical situation in China and the UK. What you said is basically correct, but there is one small detail that needs to be corrected. For those who are not formally employed, such as farmers, they only have to pay a few hundred RMB per year to get a medical insurance from the government. This insurance is not available for minor illnesses, such as teeth. However, when treating major illnesses in the hospital in your city, i.e. those that are expensive, you receive a higher rate of reimbursement, which can vary from 60 to 90 per cent. So it is not objective to say that people who do not have a job cannot pay for their own medical treatment, they only have to pay a very low premium to receive a high percentage of reimbursement from the government for major illnesses. It's just that this insurance doesn't cover as much as those who pay for formal health insurance who work in a business, and it can only be used in the city of domicile.
你好，感谢你对中英的医疗情况做了基本的对比和介绍。你说的基本是对的，但是有一点小细节需要纠正。对于那些没有正式工作的人，比如农民，只需要每年支付几百人民币，就可以得到一份来自政府的医疗保险。这个保险在小病上不能用，比如牙齿。但是当在所在城市的医院治疗大病时，也就是治疗那些花费昂贵的疾病时，获得较高的报销比例，这个比例大概在百分之60到百分之90不等。所以说，没有工作的人没法需要自己出钱看病是不客观的，他们只需要支付很低的保险金，就可以获得一份来自政府的报销比例很高的大病保障。只是这个保险的覆盖范围，不像那些在企业工作的交正式医疗保险的人那么大，而且只能在户籍所在城市使用。