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If you have not found out yet. The covered slot on the front is for the optional SD card reader. If you dont need the DVD drive. The OS drive in a DVD adapter caddie, is the perfect place for the OS. Which leaves the two HDD, SSD and NVME slots available.
I just got one of these myself a few days ago, just like what you have here except it's a i5-8500 cpu. I plan to use it for Blue Iris and Homeseer, and maybe even as my plex server.
Awesome! They really are great for a home server. It would be awesome for Plex or Jellyfin since you can just throw as much storage as you need at it. :)
i bought mine at half the price of yours. it has 2 slot for nvme ssd and a 3rd slot for a M2 wifi card, the front is in plastic, so you can place the antenna there ;) and it's ridiculous noiseless, it's the cherry on the cake
It's actually pretty great what you get for the money with these. The very similar mini version of these (but without the expansion possibilities) are much more popular and cost pretty much the same or even more (!). I have found these with NVME drives already in them for pretty much the same as the minipc's with SATA SSD's or HD's... Next one I add to my homelab might be this!
Congrats on the 💯 video🙌. Nice pick up, I have something similar (Dell Precision T3600 Workstation) I would recommend getting a HBA card for storage expansion and the SFF can get quite warm inside, if you do decide to get a HBA card make sure it is in i.t mode👍. Keep up the awesome content dude.
Pairing with new Zotax RTX 3050 LP (Low Profile) is super good budget gaming A few days ago , I just purchased the same PC with an i7 8700 and 16GB of RAM for approximately $135, and a new Zotac RTX 3050 LP for around $150.
I bought one of these with an i5-6500 a couple of months ago to use as a dedicated Plex server. It lives under the TV in the living room and unless you get up right next to it, it's completely silent. I chose this over the mini because it could take the 8 TB media drive out of the older server. Since it's under the TV, I'm probably going to set it up for some retro gaming too.
I did something similar, got an EliteDesk and running Unraid on it largely for home theatre setup (Emby) they go pretty hard and its fun to mess around on
I recently got a G3 mini to run my docker lab and replace my dead NAS. 32Gb ram and i5-6500T are totally awesome for my needs. I will probably get another one for backups (currently using a macmini 2014 for those). I love how small and silent they are. I wish I could get a G4 for the extra nvme slot, but they are 100 bucks more expensive. And I kinda miss the 3.5" bays, but TBH SSDs are getting cheap, and it's probably time for me to manage my data hoarding issues
Just bought the G3 Mini 32GB Ram 1TB SSD hoped it would be fine for serverhosting (gameservers) Since i'm tired of paying monthly for a VM or dedicated root. Glad to hear it fits my needs and i can't wait for it to arrive. :) Good video
The 7th gen HP EliteDesk 800 SFF(including vPRO) used as a home server is not too bad, except you purchased Micron BX500 2.5 inch SSD, I know this model of SSD has some issue during a periods of use.
Great vid! Question for you as I have been toying with this idea for well over a year now. Any recommendations for any other SFF (Small Form Factor) OEM Prebuilt PCs other than the HP ProDesk and EliteDesk series? I have heard good things about Fujitsu and Leonovo Thinkcentres, but I am not sure if they can at least get two 3.5" HDDs into them like these systems can. I completely agree with you that these systems are likely the best when you consider 2 nvme m.2 slots, the PCIE slot availability, and that you could technically get three 3.5" HDDs into this thing if you ditch the optical (maybe even more if you 3D print an even more optimal drive-rack for 3.5" drives). Looking forward to your reply boss!
Glad you enjoyed it. Yeah the Thinkcentres are great but only have the one storage option most of the time of a single Nvme drive. Not bad of you just get a decent sized drive though
I've got 2 spare 3.5 inch drives, and very limited physical space so these old PCs would get me thrown out of my apartment. Would you go zimaboard and Sata to 3.5 inch drives (found a 3d printed rack for the two drives). I want to learn from building a NAS for those two drives, and I want to run home assistant, as well as test out something like nextcloud
A Zimaboard and the two drives would work just fine, you could also look into a raspberry pi with a case that supports the drives as well and could work out cheaper
Can the raspberry pi do sata to those 3.5 inch drives? I looked and didn’t find any way to do this that wasn’t through usb? I considered that option before and only afterwards started looking at the Zina
@@erbartlett By default it can't but you can get expansion boards or cases that can, for example the Argon NAS case - argon40.com/products/argon-eon-pi-nas
@@Techdox i guess i also thought that usb wasn’t going to be as reliable as something like sata? And I’ve read things like omv or unpaid had trouble with stuff over usb? I was basically looking for the smallest / simplest setup to be able to fiddle with these different tools. Then, if i liked it, and didn’t find the setup / maintenance too painful I’d probably build a much bigger 6 or 8 drive array in a much more powerful setup. Love the video btw!
I'm thinking of getting the same model but with the i5-7500. How many internal hard drives can you attach? So there's 1 slot for NVMe, and does it have 4 SATA ports? Thanks
@@Techdox… for more SATA ports, try a PCIe -> SATA adapter. Also, I have seen ‘WiFi’ port to SATA adaptors. There is a RUclips video on ‘what else a WiFi port is good for’. Of course, PSU may be a limit. The G4 model has room for two 3.5” drives and two 2.5” drives and the optical, yet only has three SATA ports. But it does have the dual NVMe ports!
@@jj-icejoe6642 … sorry for the delay, may be too late… These adapters are available in one two three and four SATA port configurations. ALIexpress and Banggood are two decent places to find them. Amazon also has some Of course, you also need the power connections
This model tray CAN accept 2 x 3.5” drives, no need to remove anything. You may or may not need the double SATA power splitter, mine came with the machine … I have one exactly like this one. Dual 12TB 3.5” HDD Dual NVMe (one 512GB for boot, one 512GB for cache for the two HDD’s) 2.5” 512GB SATA for misc mass storage.. just because 64GB RAM because… well just because… Added the optional front-mount SD card reader. Soon I will swap out the CPU cooler for a Noctua, but this requires case surgery. Great machine.
@@Techdox i asked this Questionen cause i already have 3,5 Inch HDDs Here. I trought i saw an annoucement that declares 2 free Slots for 3,5 Inch. 2,5 are good enough, but 3,5" are Impossible?
they usually are very reliable and very power efficient, this for exemple is a 80plus platinum and i think it's 280w so for this usage it will be a 20% to 30%.
Although I like your video and believe that you've done a really good coverage, I think you've spent too much to get a pc like this. For this price you could have built a pc from scratch with better specs.
Hey, glad you liked the video. I appreciate your feedback but I don’t think I could have gotten what I have any cheaper compared to building it here in New Zealand. Ex lease PCs like this a pretty damn cheap compared to other second hand sold PCs like this, I would be interested in seeing this built cheaper though
@Techdox Is the $300 NZD price tag including the SSDs you bought? Because I just bought the same model, but used on ebay for $50 USD (about $85 NZD). A quick look around confirms that the average price for them near me is less than $100 USD ($165 NZD)
@@jamesdavis1917… one’s location is VERY dependent on what is available . Just because “average price NEAR ME” is less than $100, Mr Techdox may not be so lucky on “average price NEAR HIM”. And shipping to HIS location may be (will be) exhorbitant. Example, I picked up a ‘bare-bones’ G3 SFF for $45 shipped, then just two weeks ago lucked out on a ‘bare-bones’ G4 SFF for the same $45. I have also picked up a lot of four ‘bare-bones’ G3 65w USFF for $40 shipped (all four). ‘Local’ supply is everything.
You'd be kind of hard pressed to make an sff PC build for the price, mini itx motherboards, sff psus and cases generally cost quite a bit more than standard microatx or ATX sized hardware with the same featureset
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Just drop this here, and kind of a random place in hopes that I could get your attention. Not sure if you remember me but I just dropped you another DM on Twitter about some stuff we had been working on. Please let me know. Happy to support your channel in anyway I can, all the best.
If you have not found out yet. The covered slot on the front is for the optional SD card reader. If you dont need the DVD drive. The OS drive in a DVD adapter caddie, is the perfect place for the OS. Which leaves the two HDD, SSD and NVME slots available.
I just got one of these myself a few days ago, just like what you have here except it's a i5-8500 cpu. I plan to use it for Blue Iris and Homeseer, and maybe even as my plex server.
Awesome! They really are great for a home server. It would be awesome for Plex or Jellyfin since you can just throw as much storage as you need at it. :)
i bought mine at half the price of yours.
it has 2 slot for nvme ssd
and a 3rd slot for a M2 wifi card, the front is in plastic, so you can place the antenna there ;)
and it's ridiculous noiseless, it's the cherry on the cake
@@ZZZ-z9n3n nice! Sounds like a good grab then
It's actually pretty great what you get for the money with these. The very similar mini version of these (but without the expansion possibilities) are much more popular and cost pretty much the same or even more (!). I have found these with NVME drives already in them for pretty much the same as the minipc's with SATA SSD's or HD's...
Next one I add to my homelab might be this!
Congrats on the 💯 video🙌.
Nice pick up, I have something similar (Dell Precision T3600 Workstation) I would recommend getting a HBA card for storage expansion and the SFF can get quite warm inside, if you do decide to get a HBA card make sure it is in i.t mode👍. Keep up the awesome content dude.
Good call, I’ll have a look into storage expansions. Yeah I’ll keep an eye on the heat but at the moment it seems pretty good 😊
Pairing with new Zotax RTX 3050 LP (Low Profile) is super good budget gaming
A few days ago , I just purchased the same PC with an i7 8700 and 16GB of RAM for approximately $135,
and a new Zotac RTX 3050 LP for around $150.
Just got one of these for SGD 130, i7 7700. Sweet deal. Will be building homeserver, cctv-ftp, and local minecraft server for my kids.
That’s awesome, that’s a great price as well
I bought one of these with an i5-6500 a couple of months ago to use as a dedicated Plex server. It lives under the TV in the living room and unless you get up right next to it, it's completely silent. I chose this over the mini because it could take the 8 TB media drive out of the older server.
Since it's under the TV, I'm probably going to set it up for some retro gaming too.
I did exactly the same haha
Greetings from Venezuela
I did something similar, got an EliteDesk and running Unraid on it largely for home theatre setup (Emby) they go pretty hard and its fun to mess around on
I must of been living under a rock to not have seen Unraid before! I'm going to have a play around with it :)
Just picked one up! Hoping to do the same
I recently got a G3 mini to run my docker lab and replace my dead NAS. 32Gb ram and i5-6500T are totally awesome for my needs. I will probably get another one for backups (currently using a macmini 2014 for those). I love how small and silent they are. I wish I could get a G4 for the extra nvme slot, but they are 100 bucks more expensive. And I kinda miss the 3.5" bays, but TBH SSDs are getting cheap, and it's probably time for me to manage my data hoarding issues
Loving your channel.. youll be getting used to me commenting now on your videos
Very good Video and explanation! Thanks a lot for the effort!
Glad you enjoyed the video
Congrats on 100 videos!
Thanks!
Cool man❤ appreciate u shared I was also getting started selfhosting my simple site
Best of luck!
Just bought the G3 Mini 32GB Ram 1TB SSD hoped it would be fine for serverhosting (gameservers) Since i'm tired of paying monthly for a VM or dedicated root.
Glad to hear it fits my needs and i can't wait for it to arrive. :) Good video
Awesome! All the best with your selfhosting, feel free to jump into the discord if you ever need a hand or have questions etc
@@Techdox Thank you, i'll definetely check the discord out later! :D
@@Techdox Hey, i can't seem to find the discord anywhere either i'm blind or there is no link. :D
@@akentrus785 here ya go discord.com/invite/8mX2KRxDw8
You have beautiful hands. Well done on the video.
😂😂😂
Sweet. Love it.
The 7th gen HP EliteDesk 800 SFF(including vPRO) used as a home server is not too bad, except you purchased Micron BX500 2.5 inch SSD, I know this model of SSD has some issue during a periods of use.
You raise a solid point around the cheaper SSD, I’m relying more and more on this server so I need to look at a better long term ssd
hello fellow kiwi doing homelab lol, thanks for the trade me link
You’re welcome :)
I love my G3 SFF….. Perfect for home office.
Es bueno saber que no soy el único que lo uso con docker y Plex 😅
Getting one with an i3 8100 today for the dual nvme slots for 100 bucks today :)
I got that machine with i3 8100, 16gb ram and 256gb nvme for 99€ :) and added a 1TB NVME, M.2 WLAN/bluetooth card and a RTX A2000 6gb i got for 200€.
What a beast!
Great vid! Question for you as I have been toying with this idea for well over a year now.
Any recommendations for any other SFF (Small Form Factor) OEM Prebuilt PCs other than the HP ProDesk and EliteDesk series? I have heard good things about Fujitsu and Leonovo Thinkcentres, but I am not sure if they can at least get two 3.5" HDDs into them like these systems can.
I completely agree with you that these systems are likely the best when you consider 2 nvme m.2 slots, the PCIE slot availability, and that you could technically get three 3.5" HDDs into this thing if you ditch the optical (maybe even more if you 3D print an even more optimal drive-rack for 3.5" drives).
Looking forward to your reply boss!
Glad you enjoyed it. Yeah the Thinkcentres are great but only have the one storage option most of the time of a single Nvme drive. Not bad of you just get a decent sized drive though
@@Techdox Thanks for the reply! Do you have any other suggestions for models to look into?
The Dell Optiplex is also a good option if you can get it for a good price
You can snag an adapter to turn that cd drive into another sata ssd!
I really need to do this, MORE STORAGE :D
Have you measured how much electricity it consumes? It would be interesting to know how much it consumes in idle.
No, I don't have anything to monitor the consumption. Would be handy though
Have you ever use a killawatt to find out how much power it's using. I'm looking for the same exact thing.
No I haven’t, would be interesting to know the usage though
That’s a sd card slot blank on the front.
I was thinking that! Thanks for the confirmation :)
Can you fit 2 x 3.5 HDD in it?
Looked like one pci-e slot free for the card for bit speedier lan?
Great suggestion, going to upgrade the RAM this weekend to 64GB then will look at other expansion options :D
how much is the power consumption?
Good question, I have yet to test
@@Techdox can u test idle power draw?
@@MrBeneek I need to get a reader for it, one day I will get around to checking this haha
I loved the review, but maybe could it be possible to do some outdoor tests?
Hey, glad you enjoyed it. What do you mean by outdoor tests?
@@Techdox wrong video lol, I was also watching a flashlight review video 😅
But I also loved your video haha
@@feahnorl hahahaha! That’s okay 😂
I've got 2 spare 3.5 inch drives, and very limited physical space so these old PCs would get me thrown out of my apartment. Would you go zimaboard and Sata to 3.5 inch drives (found a 3d printed rack for the two drives). I want to learn from building a NAS for those two drives, and I want to run home assistant, as well as test out something like nextcloud
A Zimaboard and the two drives would work just fine, you could also look into a raspberry pi with a case that supports the drives as well and could work out cheaper
Can the raspberry pi do sata to those 3.5 inch drives? I looked and didn’t find any way to do this that wasn’t through usb?
I considered that option before and only afterwards started looking at the Zina
@@erbartlett By default it can't but you can get expansion boards or cases that can, for example the Argon NAS case - argon40.com/products/argon-eon-pi-nas
@@Techdox i guess i also thought that usb wasn’t going to be as reliable as something like sata? And I’ve read things like omv or unpaid had trouble with stuff over usb? I was basically looking for the smallest / simplest setup to be able to fiddle with these different tools. Then, if i liked it, and didn’t find the setup / maintenance too painful I’d probably build a much bigger 6 or 8 drive array in a much more powerful setup. Love the video btw!
Yeah in this case, I think you can't go wrong with a Zimaboard, they are just a bit pricey for the specs
@@erbartlett
Sorry, how many HDD 3.5" can you put inside the case?? 2 in the superior bay ?? maybe 3 ??
I think 2 would be fine from what I can see
I'm thinking of getting the same model but with the i5-7500. How many internal hard drives can you attach? So there's 1 slot for NVMe, and does it have 4 SATA ports? Thanks
Two SATA ports, well three if you disconnect the DVD drive, but really only room for two SSDs and the NVMe
@@Techdox… for more SATA ports, try a PCIe -> SATA adapter. Also, I have seen ‘WiFi’ port to SATA adaptors.
There is a RUclips video on ‘what else a WiFi port is good for’.
Of course, PSU may be a limit.
The G4 model has room for two 3.5” drives and two 2.5” drives and the optical, yet only has three SATA ports.
But it does have the dual NVMe ports!
@@ernestgalvan9037 Dual NVME ?
@@jj-icejoe6642 … sorry for the delay, may be too late…
These adapters are available in one two three and four SATA port configurations.
ALIexpress and Banggood are two decent places to find them.
Amazon also has some
Of course, you also need the power connections
Do you think you can fit 2 x 3.5 inch HDD's in that top tray?
Yeah I think if you swap the dvd tray out for a HDD enclosure
This model tray CAN accept 2 x 3.5” drives, no need to remove anything. You may or may not need the double SATA power splitter, mine came with the machine …
I have one exactly like this one.
Dual 12TB 3.5” HDD
Dual NVMe (one 512GB for boot, one 512GB for cache for the two HDD’s)
2.5” 512GB SATA for misc mass storage.. just because
64GB RAM because… well just because…
Added the optional front-mount SD card reader.
Soon I will swap out the CPU cooler for a Noctua, but this requires case surgery.
Great machine.
@@ernestgalvan9037 Thanks that's great. I'm looking for a small (ish) basic PC to replace my old clunky Truenas. Sounds like a viable option.
Do you know if it possible to install 2 3,5 inch HDD on this board?
I wouldn’t say so, the 2.5s were just good enough
@@Techdox i asked this Questionen cause i already have 3,5 Inch HDDs Here. I trought i saw an annoucement that declares 2 free Slots for 3,5 Inch. 2,5 are good enough, but 3,5" are Impossible?
Huge drawback with these is the proprietary PSU though.
That’s a really valid point, I’m not sure what the price would be for a new one, or the process to even get it!
they usually are very reliable and very power efficient, this for exemple is a 80plus platinum and i think it's 280w so for this usage it will be a 20% to 30%.
what can be on a home server?
Pretty much everything I cover in this channel :)
it can take i5 9500
Yep. I think i7 9700 also
Although I like your video and believe that you've done a really good coverage, I think you've spent too much to get a pc like this. For this price you could have built a pc from scratch with better specs.
Hey, glad you liked the video. I appreciate your feedback but I don’t think I could have gotten what I have any cheaper compared to building it here in New Zealand.
Ex lease PCs like this a pretty damn cheap compared to other second hand sold PCs like this, I would be interested in seeing this built cheaper though
@Techdox Is the $300 NZD price tag including the SSDs you bought? Because I just bought the same model, but used on ebay for $50 USD (about $85 NZD). A quick look around confirms that the average price for them near me is less than $100 USD ($165 NZD)
@@jamesdavis1917… one’s location is VERY dependent on what is available . Just because “average price NEAR ME” is less than $100, Mr Techdox may not be so lucky on “average price NEAR HIM”. And shipping to HIS location may be (will be) exhorbitant.
Example, I picked up a ‘bare-bones’ G3 SFF for $45 shipped, then just two weeks ago lucked out on a ‘bare-bones’ G4 SFF for the same $45.
I have also picked up a lot of four ‘bare-bones’ G3 65w USFF for $40 shipped (all four).
‘Local’ supply is everything.
You'd be kind of hard pressed to make an sff PC build for the price, mini itx motherboards, sff psus and cases generally cost quite a bit more than standard microatx or ATX sized hardware with the same featureset