Sony 35mm f1.8 vs Sigma 35mm f1.4 | Best 35mm Lens for Sony
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- Опубликовано: 24 авг 2024
- Sony 35mm f1.8 vs Sigma 35mm f1.4, which is the best 35mm Lens for Sony? It is a tough choice between these two.
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Totally agree with your breakdown, all depends what you're using 35mm for!
Sigma = better photos
Sony = better video
Yes that,s true and the Sony has also better build stabilization
Yea true im main photography but not interesting video is unfair
6:20 You missed focus on the Sony image on the right. Thats why you have green mush
Yeah I thought exactly the same when it first popped up but I'm not 100 percent. That could lead to worse Chromatic Abb for sure. Otherwise fantastic video and helped me to choose the Sony for my wedding videography. Cheers
he compared 2 pictures in different focal plane and he says we got green mushed down here onthe sony LOL
@@ekkanofiqandriyana7325 not sure what you meant but both are 35mm
Nice job comparing the two. I went with the Sony, size and weight have become a bigger factor for me. I find if it's too big and heavy, I'll leave gear at home and that just a waste on soo many levels. I also find people are more relaxed around smaller gear. So I've been scaling down my lens.
Don't know what gear you are using to record, but this is the sharpest content I have seen on RUclips thus far. Keep up the good work!
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i feel like its worth a mention that at f1.4, a running tracking shot is a little unfair. your depth of field is about 30% smaller, which is juuuust enough to keep things out of focus.
Exactly, the tracking shot should be done at the same aperture.
This guy deserves way more views.
I'm definitely getting the sigma. Better out of focus areas and a wider aperture for those juicy night shots in NYC.
Thanks, I own the Sigma and I see TONS of chromatic aberration, at least on high contrast images.
If the sony 1.8 has 2 tons of CA, then the Sigma 1.4 has 1 ton.
I went with Sigma at Xmas time because of the sale price and the firmware update that helps out the video AF and it's been great, but I still want the Sony for gimble work.
dude I really enjoy your videos! love the quality so much! thanks for this, I'm looking into these 2 lenses and you've helped a lot! :)
In my experience, the lens weight has a lot of say on its usability. F1.8 vs F1.4 is a stop difference but with the weight savings, I'd take the F1.8. I think the Sony is better. Thanks for doing the review
Hmm not a full stop yet
1.4 to 2 is a full stop
For me sharpness is king, everything else is character
Thanks for the test revealing that chromatic aberration on many of the compact Sony lenses. Chris Niccols complained about chromatic aberration and showed it clearly in his video review (one of the last at DPReview) of the Sony 24 2.8, 40 2.5, 50 2.5 G series. I didn't know it affected the whole lineup so badly. I really don't know which lenses to buy for Sony for video now. For best stabilisation and video autofocus, should be a Sony lens. Chromatic aberration is terrible though on almost all of them.
Happily my Sony 35mm f2.8 ZA is not too bad. The ZA 55mm 1.8 also seems not too bad in comparison. I'll miss the great physical controls on the lens though.
Somehow the skin color on Sigma video here somehow feels more natural. Sony looks yellowish slightly. What do you think Marc
Great video!! Loved how you go trough everything meticulously! I'll go with the Sony because of the size + quality!
Thank you so much! I'm glad you found it helpful 😊
@@MarcTaraz definitely, man! keep up the good work!
I am getting this focal length primarily for video. The smaller and lighter lens with better auto focus will definitely win for a gimbal set up.
Thanks for this video
Had both these lenses I kept the Sony. I may have had a bad copy of the sigma but in my case the Sony absolutely crushed the sigma for edge sharpness I had to stop the sigma down to 2.8 to even match the Sony wide open. I dont see the CA on mine even close to the level that you are getting on your Sony. I do agree on the bokeh the sigma is much better. Although on mine the bokeh was much more circular than the sigma from what I seen in your examples the size and weight of the Sony for what I would be using it for made the decision to go Sony a no brainer for me. Both are great lenses. If I was only using them for portraits I would choose the sigma but for everything else I would choose the Sony.
When you're comparing the portraits of your friend in the checkered shirt, I think the Sony image is significantly front-focused. You can tell because everything with green CA is behind the plane of focus, i.e. his whole torso! It's generally bad news when you can use LoCA as focus peaking :D
actually the full photo seems out of focus as he said. I did see some comments stating that sony 35 mm 1.8 FE has focusing problems..no who knows beyond all the marketing hype.
I really want both these lenses, but would feel silly having both a 35 1.4 and a 35 1.8, haha
It is nonsense to compare background blur and bokeh between f1.8 and f1.4 lens. And it is also stupid way to compare color fringing while the first one is on-focus and another one seems to be out-focus.
Strange that when comparing test shots,instead of adjust the shutter speed to compensate for sigmas 1.4, you adjusted iso.
I just cancelled my order for the Sigma because I actually need it for video and really glad you pointed out the video AF issues on the Sigma.
I think you explained it very well. I am going to buy the Sony 1.8 because I need it for using on a gimbal and its lighter, and the tracking is better. I do already have a G Master 35mm though, so it's a matter of being able to choose the right lens for the job. Thank you so much for doing a really good comparison.
Yes
The sony looks like a good choice but then that chromatic aberration kills me. I'll probably still switch from the sigma tho. As for my bokeh needs are met with other lenses
Hi! Which lenses meet your bokeh needs if I can ask??
@@carlota5499 55 1.8 - telephoto 200 2.8 - 85 1.8 (simple man)
Would have been good to see results from sigma after stopping down and comparing both at f/2.8
Thanks - I was deciding between Sony & Sigma mainly because of Sigma weight. Looks like I might just have to tough out the weight of lens.
this was such a huge help. I really want the sigma 35mm, but I also need it for video. So I actually think I'll sacrifice the creamy bokeh and get the Sony instead. Thanks so much for this.
Glad you found it helpful!
There is something about sigma's 35mm lenses. I owned a 35 1.4 on my canon, the first art lens and I miss it every damn day. It just renders the world in such an amazing way, there is nothing that compares, currently mostly shooting a 135mm GM... still miss my damn 35mm. I am sorta disappointed that they haven't managed this with more gear yet, altho I believe the 56mm 1.4 cuts it close but you have to get a good one which by itself is an issue.
I’ve never had a client judge me “100% based off of my gear” in 32 years of photography. Odd
It’s fluff talk 😂
I think if comparing you should have the sigma at 1.8 as well. So we. An see how they perform with the same settings, inherently we know that a lower f stop means “better” bokeh.
Thanks for the slomo focus comparison :)
You are most welcome!
I have the zeiss 35mm 1.4 and the zeiss 35mm 2.8. I have both because of the size/quality/convenience difference. Kinda want to sell both and get the 35mm 1.8. But like you said at the end of the video, I’m torn as to what to do.
Using an APS-C lens on a full frame camera with crop mode enabled may result in a loss of image quality.?
Is the chromatic aberration on the Sony so bad that I should not consider buying it? I shoot entirely video work, so can't just pop into lightroom to fix it. I have the Sony 35mm 2.8 (average lens), and new Sony 20mm 1.8 (which I love). I shoot video on the A7 III.
I wouldnt say it's bad enough to not buy it. The video AF is great
@@MarcTaraz Okay. I'll be ordering one then. Thanks!
Great work , with all details , keep up the good work..
Thanks for the video but I never understand why people will compare two lenses with different apertures and then compare photos from both lenses with both of them wide open. Why wouldn't you match the aperture to do a comparison? Your depth of field changes with different apertures so if you shoot one photo wider, then you're going to have blurriness in parts through no fault of the lens. Am I wrong about this?
While you're not wrong about this, no one is buying an f1.4 to never shoot at 1.4. As someone who would be considering the pros and cons, that's a real world advantage of a 1.4 lens.
@@MarcTaraz I literally didn't say that at all. You'd shoot at f1.4 when you want to shallow your depth of field or just need more light. I'm aware that people who buy lenses are guaranteed to use them wide open. My commentary was about your video comparing photos from different lenses without matching your fstop.
Stopping the 1.4 down to 1.8 is also an unfair comparison. Stopping down increases sharpness and would give advantage to the sigma. Shooting them both wide open is more fair I would say. To get more in depth review I would even say to test them also both stopped down at say 2.8 5.6 8 but either way to stop one lens down to 1.8 and leave the other wide open isnt really an apples to apples comparison.
Thanks for this video!!! I am between those 2 as well, 90% for video... do you see a major diffrence in bokeh in video? I have the a7siii as well....
Amazing comparison Marc! Sadly I don’t have the Sony body anymore! I think the Sony because of size, I’ve been declined in a couple of scenarios/locations because my lens was too big. 😐
Size Def plays a role in how uncomfortable/skeptical/intrusive people are/feel around a camera. No one ever seems to have a problem with a phone tho....
thanks for the video guys ! good job 👌
There’s something special about the sigma imo.
Omg I woke up asking if there’s a comparison btw the two. Thanks so much! I think I’m going with the Sony because I mainly do videos
Only thing missing dark light video testing
No BS! Straight down to it. Nice tutorial dude! very in depth and i dig the Star Wars T ;)
Aw thanks man! I try my best! I know what I look for in a lens and just want other people to be informed. I'm glad you're a nerd of culture as well 😉 may the force be with you
7:47 wow that's the shallowest thing I've heard for a while, but I totally believe you.
Would you recommend OVERALL the Sigma 56mm 1.4 or the Sony 35mm f1.8 for the Sony A6500 ? Thank you.
Both are great lenses! I'd say the 35mm 1.8 is probably the better investment in the long run since it is a full frame lens, so if you every uograde to full frame, it will still work, whereas the 56 is a crop lens.
Thanks for this big help buddy 🎥🤙🏼
Glad I could help!
Nice work...thx! You said for stills you would take the Sigma over the Sony as the focus is the same...would that hold true if you were photographing close action like someone skateboarding or kids running around, etc?
Both are going to perform pretty much identically in that regard. If I'm shooting action I'm usually not wide open, so the difference between the apertures is a non factor at that point. But both will perform on the same level for fast action photo
Nice video! Would you prefer the sony 35mm 1.8 - Sony 16-55mm 2.8 ?
I shoot full frame, so the 16-55 doesn't really have any use for me as a crop lens. Both are great, but very different. The 16-55 is more like a 24-70 full frame equovilant, so it really depends on what you want out of a lens. I personally prefer primes, so I would go with the 35mm 1.8
What do you think about shooting with them indoors daylight and artificial light at night indoors too?
Great review!
After owning the sony 35mm f1.8 for awhile now I'm definitely going to be selling the lens it's just not very sharp, yes it has a small form factor which is great but I've found the image quality to be actually very poor my sigma 35mm f1.4 is much much better even though the size and weight is not
Just earned yourself a sub... keep up the great work.
For cinematic shoot which lense you prefer wd sony a6400??
It's really a tough decision to make! Well which one will be better for Sony a6000?
Really depends on what you prioritize in a lens. Only you can decide that
@@MarcTaraz well I gravitate more towards the Sony because of light weight and better focusing system but then sigma is better with chromatic aberration and also it's f1.4!
Hey Marc, I wanted to ask how much of the aberation is reduced when you apply the chromatic aberation reduction in lightroom in the case of Sony?
Hi! Like most lenses with bad chromatic aberration, it gets rid of it a little bit, but when you then dial it in manually with the sliders you can practically erase it entirely.
@@MarcTaraz Alright, thanks! Keep it up, love your work!
did you redo white balance when changing lenses? that could be the green on the shirt
Great Video Bud!
That was a great compare, Marc. I noticed that you also had the Sony/Zeiss 35 f2.8 - I would have liked to hear your thoughts on the difference between the two Sony lenses.
Ideally, I wish that Sony had come out with a G or GM quality 35, either at F1.8 or at f1.4 . I would have snapped it up if it had been anything like their stellar 24 GM offering.
Hey! I actually havent tested out the 35 2.8, I tested out the Sony/zeiss 35 1.4!
compare with the Samyang 1.4!
Thanks for this video ! I'll go with the Sigma :)
Nice comparison. But your comparing F1.4 to F1.8 on the passport image. Obviously the F1.8 Sony is sharper.
1.4 would be sharper no?
Wonderful review ❤️
Thank you so much! I'm glad you enjoyed!
Nice review.. When using a Sigma lens, does the camera battery run out quickly? because when I use a lens adapter for Nikon to Sony, I have problems with the battery draining quickly even though the camera is not turned on.
I've had 0 issues with this
Hey dude.... which lens is best for videography performance with alpha m4 ?????
Well now there is the newer version of the sigma, as well as the Sony 35mm 1.4 GM. All of them will perform great on the a7IV, I am personally using the GM version, and with the a7IV's focus breathing compensation, it's a great combination
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Would you go for the sony 35 or sigma 24-70? Tried both but still cant decide... also loved the sharpness of the sigma but yea is big which is not much of a problem but still worried about the CA on the 35 😣 idk!!
I think those are two very different lenses at different price points. That comes down to what YOU want out of a lens and what you're using it for
You people are crazy , one mentor says that sigma 35 mm 1.4 is great and another person says that sony 1.8 is good, is it easy to change lense after buying it, just coz you compare lense, some people wanted to satisfy the lens dealers, just for their individual benifits , I don't believe , it depends on the camera man how he is handling. Sorry this is my individual opinion, not to hurt anybody, coz I bought Sigma 1.4, I feel it is doing good job to me.
This is the video ive been searching for . but marc can you tell me which lens i should go for as im still not sure which to choose? im currently shooting weddings , portraits and streets on the weekend.
Oof that tough one. They are both so good. I think if you're just doing photo and not video, I'd go with the Sigma 1.4. You'll look more professional to your wedding and portrait clients, and that shallower depth of field is just so creamy. It really comes down to what you value. If you value that small size and weight and amazing video AF, the Sony 1.8 is the way to go. If you don't mind the weight and love that 1.4, the Sigma is the way to go.
@@MarcTaraz Hey Marc , I don't really feel much about the size and the weight . I actually prefer the Sigma over the Sony in build as it's more sturdy I think . But what if I have to shoot a few videos .. will the Sigma at least be reliable on a few occasions . I'm asking you this because you have used this lens for the testing and I would like to know if it will perform at least 50% of the video performance of the Sony ?
Oh yea. Its good enough for most scenarios. It's just faster tracking movement that the Sony is vastly superior. But if your shooting video without any crazy motion or movement, you'll be fine
@@MarcTaraz thank you so much Marc 🙌 going with the Sigma
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I HATE WEIGHT. I HATE SIZE. With a mirrorless camera, the size and weight does matter a lot. I would thus never buy the key zooms for such a small mirrorless camera.
My 55 mm is used most; so is the 28 2.8 Sony lens and the 18 mm 2.8 Samyang lens. However the 85 mm 1.4 usually stays home in 95% of all cases. I love the monster for its great quality, but I hate the volume and weight. I typically choose one lens, I mount it and shoot most of the day with that lens. Seldom I switch. I adapt to the lens, not the opposite. With my A7RIV I then have a pocket camera look, when travelling and visiting.
62 M pixel allows for cropping; prime lenses too. 2.8 is OK because of IBIS.
Of course this is valid for my private way of life, travelling with a family where all members are impatient. The 85 mm is reserved exclusively for portrait shots in my studio. But I regret this investment. I just keep it, because I have it.
GREAT VIDEO THANK YOU FINALLY
The Sigma has great optical quality as shown in the video (just not so much for video recording). BUT it's just too heavy for street photography and you draw too much attention. The Sony 35 is just disappointing in terms of optical performance given the chromatic aberration
What would you use for street photography?
My favourite Sony lens is the 35mm f2.8 ZA. It's small, discreet and has gorgeous film-like rendering. Just like the old 35mm film days, there's quite a bit of vignetting (doesn't bother me, corners should be darker, most of the time, attention should be on inner two-thirds of the frame anyway.@@Jgheiler
Hii, is it worthy to buy used 85mm 1.4 DG HSM lens for 555$ usd? Please reply
It would be interesting to see the sony agains the batis40 mm
I still can’t decide 😖
Great Video Bro 👍🏾
Autofocus it is for me. Doesn't matter if there's a better background blur or other clean optic attributes if the shot is completely unusable.
Looking to purchase one of these two options. Leaning towards the Sigma though the size of the Sony does draw me as well. I am curious to know when you did this review with the firmware update that came out that addressed the AF performance. Cheers for any feedback
This test happened months after the firmware update. Even tho the sigma has improved because of that update, the Sony is still more reliable in video af.
@@MarcTaraz which would you recommend for shooting a music video or a vlog at home?
I love my sigma for situations where you don't need the fastest autofocus. For vlogging I'd reccomend something wider, like the 20mm, but I've shot most of my RUclips talking head videos with the sigma 35mm
I'm a portrait photographer, and youtuber but photography pays me more lol, so i'll be grabbing the Sigma. The 2/3 stop of light, and better bokeh are winners for me. I have the Sigma 30mm for APS-C now and it's incredible. Thanks for the video man.
Glad you found it helpful! Means a lot to me ☺️❤️
sigma 35mm 1.4 dg dn or sony 35mm 1.8 ?
Nice video, even though the Sigma is on sale today at B&H for $599 i think i'm going to get the Sony. Wedding Videographer
The reason you think sony is better than sigma at af, its because you have used f1.4 on sigma and thats a lot smaller focus range
она на 1,8 тоже медленно работает . У меня такой объектив
amazing review
Glad you exposed sony how bad it was in few aspect, it felt not sharp and clear rather blur.
It's so hard to find a great 35mm lens for sony full-frame. I feel all of them other than the Sony 35mm 1.4 GM have their disavantages. I would love a smooth bookeh and very fast AF, but without spending a premium GM price on the lens... seems like that doesn't exist jn the 35mm category for sony though...
For the 50mm-ish lenses I bought the sony zeiss 55mm and to me it feels that is the best deal I could imagine.
Don't find anything like that in the 35mm category though 🙈
I'm duplicating my comment above, but you are asking the question as @Jgheiler (which 35mm lens for Sony). My favourite Sony lens is the 35mm f2.8 ZA. It's small, discreet and has gorgeous film-like rendering. Just like the old 35mm film days, there's quite a bit of vignetting (doesn't bother me, corners should be darker, most of the time, attention should be on inner two-thirds of the frame anyway.
@@AlecKinnear thanks for the comment. What about the autofocus speed of that lens? Is it decent for videography? And the bokeh? I know it has less because of f2.8 but still for the farer out background...?
I find the bokeh marvellous. The architecture of the lens is Sonnar which is a classic 93 year old lens design for rangefinders (Zeiss Contax, Nikon). The Sonnar design had to be abandoned during the SLR period as it leaves very little distance between the rear element and the (analog) film or (digital) sensor. The lenses can be small and very good. The Sonnar design offers good contrast, low flare and minimal chromatic aberration. Sonnar's "weak point" is less technical accuracy, also known as lens character. I have some very precise modern optics (Nikon Z, Sigma Art) and frankly I prefer the Sonnar look.
A specific example of the difference between modern clinical glass and traditional designs I could mention is the Sigma Art 135mm f1.8 vs Canon L 135mm f2. The Canon has the Sonnar brightness and character and the Sigma Art looks sterile in comparison. I still shoot a Sigma Art 135mm f1.8 (on Nikon now) for sports, but if I were shooting portraits, I'd far rather have glass like Canon L (no Canon cameras to mount it on for many years now). If money were no object, I'd switch the Sigma Art in f mount for the new Nikon Plena except I wouldn't be able to shoot the Plena on my D5 or D850 (only on the Z9).
Returning to your question about the 35mm f2.9 ZA, the bokeh is great. When I was without any Sony cameras for seven years, I kept this lens for the day when I might shoot a Sony body again (ZV-E1, which is a pocket version of the A7S III brought me back).@@embodiedauthenticity
Why does 1.8 bokeh look better than 1.4
@6:00 photo comparison.. u didn't nail the focus on the Sony 1.8 so it's not fair to compare the sharpness with those images.. still I know that the Sigma is sharper than Sony 1.8 😁
As a pro photographer if you care more about how your lenses look than you are probably in it for the wrong reasons.
so now in 2021 the sony costs 550€ and the sigma 790€ (german prices) the price difference is way bigger now. Im a hobby photographer and i dont planning on making videos. maybe someday a bit but for now i dont want to make videos. so what would you pick now for photography since the price diference is now round about 250€? but i think i did my choice allready. good video and good comparison ;) it helped me a lot!
Dang thats a massive price difference over there! In the US the 1.8 is 700 and the 1.4 is 800....
Anyway. Again I think it comes down em what you want out of a lens. Do want a smaller lighter setup, or do you want a bigger setup with shallower depth of field! Only you can decide that.
I already own the sony 35 f1.8 and quite enjoy using it. However, Sigma recently released a 35 f1.2, I recently considering getting either the sigma 35 f.14 or f1.2. Which one would you recommend?
Honestly, I'd reccomend the 1.4. Better af than the 1.2, lighter, similar bokeh, half the price, and surprisingly transmits more light onto the sensor, making the 1.2 kind of pointless in my opinion. The 1.2 is also a bit longer than 35mm, about 38mm, and if it's going to be that close to 40mm, I'd get the sigma 40mm 1.4 if you have the money because it performs better than both of them.
i have the sigma art 35mm 1.2 and the AF is wayyyyyy better then the 1.4 for photo and video. idk why marc would tell you different maybe he got a bad copy? the bokeh is much smoother and the 1.2 is much sharper. only downside like marc mention is that its closer to a 37-38mm lens. You’ll get use to the weight dont stress it. hope that helps!
Agree I have both of them right now and the 1.4 is just slower and less sharp as well... the 1.2 feels way more superior !
Great video
Thank you!
So will this sigma 35mm stay 35mm on a a600p
No, because that's an apsc sized sensor. It would be a 1.5x crop, with the look of a 52ish mm lens. I highly reccomend you go to the mmcalc website and you can see the focal range and aputure equivalents 😊
Ok questi video, allora sigma e più nitido per foto, sony e meglio su vari fattori e la stabilizzazione e importante nei video non credo che fare solo due foto nel 2024 conti.. Come lavoro quindi un aspetto generale vince su tutto su sony per me, cmq complimenti per il video! ( non e una critica verso di te e solo ub ragionamento di chi guarda tutti questi video da creatori diversi) 😊
Love it!
Is Sigma 35mm f1.4 possible for vlogging ? pls reply..
Would not reccomend for vlogging, it's not wide enough
@@MarcTaraz Danke,, Which lens is very nice video Quality for vlogging on the Sony a7 iii ?
The Sony 20mm 1.8
can you tell how is the af in video with the new firmware on the sigma? i have the sigma 105 mm f1.4 sony and the sigma 20 mm f1.4 sony and with new firmware its totally a super better performace on video af like sony native ones i can say. but i want to know is happening the same with the 35 mm becouse i want to add to my kit the 35 to have the perfect trio sigmas
This video was all filmed and tested with the newest firmware on the sigma. If you watch the video AF tests you can see how it performs
Marc Taraz Steiner thank i watch it and is good not bad! Is it reliable in low light or does not lock focus sometimes?
In my own use over the past 2 years I've found it is pretty reliable in low light
Marc Taraz Steiner thanks again 🦾🦾🦾
As wedding pg I use the sigma
Sigma all the way!
5:40 - no dif with sharpness? Two different pictures. Two completely different quality. So what are you talking about?
RUclips compression softens it up, I'd check the raws and pixel peep
Why did you fumble on the blue shirt, sigma is in focus while to sony is not. Hard to evaluate considering that
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