It's not even a debate. United fans these days (especially some of these social media platforms) have some short-term memories. Some of the threads you see of Twitter are absolutely embarrassing. So one-sided. They wanna show every mistake from a 12yr career and just gloss over everything good he has done. These younger supporters (social media heads) act like Sir Alex's winning teams were filled with world-class players 1-11. Compared to the modern-day game, fans like Cam wouldn't put Bruce, Pallister, Wes Brown, Irwin, Butt, with Legend status. To say RVP is a legend just diminishes your whole argument. This video is clearly from a bias viewpoint. We've had our worst finishes since Sir Alex retired, during the Moyes, LVG and Mourinho era, we were embarrassing - do you know how much more embarrassing it could have been if he didn't save us and win us games. We we lucky we finished in the top 10 that to De Gea. It's funny how when a keeper just saves the ball, "he's doing his job" and the clean sheet record is largely down to the defence. However, you're not blaming that same defence for 5-0, 4-0, 7-3 defeats. Cmon Cam, you're supposed to be one of the more knowledgeable fans, I won't even mention your mispronounciation of some names. I can't argue with people who say it's probably time for a change, but the disrespect has been appalling.
After the world cup in 2018 when Ronaldo scored a hatty on his head he has never been the same. Thats 5 years ago. A kid born on that day would start in school this year. Decent servants but its time to go.
I think a lot to do with De Gea's downfall is the game changed right under his feet. Goalkeepers now have to be good with the ball and a lot of his confidence/form would've been impacted from that portion of the game.
Loooool at least van persie's clutch performances resulted in trophies unlike DDG, who does the opposite when it's crunch time, FA Cup final, Sevilla this season, west ham when we missed top 4, FA Cup semi vs Chelsea, UEL Final, Chelsea 18/19 last game, so many of the top of my head lol
Longevity has to count for legends. I do think there are levels to legends. Can't put De Gea in the same bracket as Charlton, but I think you can say without too much debate that he's a bigger legend than someone like Nani.
I think you can be more neutral than Loving or Hating him. I think he's at a lower level of legendary status but while i would've loved him to stay on for a season and help whoever we get in transition into the role if they're quite young, I think it's best he moves on. The timing is perfect. Unlike what his obsessives may say I don't think even his shotstopping cannot be replaced. People think that if we get a keeper who's much better on the ball, they'll automatically be a poor shotstopper (won't be surprised if that comes up somehow when a new guy comes in). Wish he'd get a better send off, though.
As much as I want him to go goal keepers make mistakes Van der Sar made mistakes the difference is we used to have reliable players like Rooney to erase them. We are so rubbish now mistakes are way more costly for us
9:19 I don't know why people say that a GK making saves is just "doing their job" when everyone on the team is doing their job. I guess we shouldn't celebrate when Rashford or Bruno scores for us because they're just doing their job, right?
It was just one of a few dumb things he mentioned. This is the thing, people start to act disingenuous when they want to prove a point or get their side of the argument across. De Gea has no doubt made "match winning saves." When outfield players "fail to do their job", a defender misplaces a pass, a striker misses a 1 v 1 and DDG is the only player that keeps us in games by keeping out the opposition time and time again. Not by making ordinary saves btw, we're talking worldies, with his hands or feet. When we're left asking"how did he save that. Let's not try rewrite history of DDG's United career.
Lmao this video was already against DDG before it even started. Cams wont call DDG a United legend (someone who has won everything domestically and some trophies in Europe, holds multiple club records) but will call Rashy a legend if it comes to it. When it comes to DDG he’s only a footballer but when its Rashy then its “come on people players aren’t robots dont be so harsh” we all see your bias. Pointless video, should have let someone objective do this video
Don’t be silly. Wenger won 3 premier leagues 5 fa cups and took Arsenal to their first ever champions league final. Revolutionized the English game. Don’t make such a poor comparison again fella.
@@nirofx sorry not sure what that is? But they used to do a show every Sunday after the last game has been played and discuss all the weekend games. Haven’t seen the show since the league has started and they haven’t uploaded in a month. Wanted to no if it is finished or restarting later?
No way guy said Van perise is Legend and De Gea is not he won more trophies the reason people do not take this kind of RUclipsrs real with zero ball knowledge
@@kingtchala6832 and did you hear the part where i said "IF U WANNA PUT VAN PERSIE IN THERE EVEN" which CLEARLY means its a debatable name. comprehension is super key
It's not even a debate. United fans these days (especially some of these social media platforms) have some short-term memories. These younger supporters (social media heads) act like Sir Alex's winning teams were filled with world-class players 1-11. Money in football has changed the game beyonf comprehension. Sir Alex could win a league with Welbeck, Anderson and Cleverly playing loads of matches. Compared to the modern-day game, fans like Cam wouldn't put Bruce, Pallister, Wes Brown, Irwin, Butt, with Legend status, cos their names arent sexy enough or you never watched them. To say RVP is a legend just diminishes your whole argument. This video is clearly from a bias viewpoint. We've had our worst finishes since Sir Alex retired, during the Moyes, LVG and Mourinho era, we were embarrassing - do you know how much more embarrassing it could have been if he didn't save us and win us games. We we lucky we finished in the top 10 thanks to De Gea. It's funny how when a keeper just saves the ball, "he's doing his job" and the clean sheet record is largely down to the defence. However, you're not blaming that same defence for 5-0, 4-0, 7-3 defeats. Cmon Cam, you're supposed to be one of the more knowledgeable fans, I won't even mention your mispronounciation of some names. I can't argue with people who say it's probably time for a change, but the disrespect has been appalling.
“Cam wouldnt put”. How do you know what i would put? Irwin n bruce are definitely legends. Brown is not a legend. Nice servant. Ive never blamed DDG for the 7-0s lol. Please check my videos. Youre making your own things up and putting it on me. Ddg isnt a legend. Very forced “legend”.
It’s such a difficult question. On the one, there was a 4 - 5 year period or so where he single handedly kept us in contention for European spots, winning the Sir Matt Busby 4 times in that period and winning a 5th one a few years later. On the other hand, he’s never really been a leader nor does he have the trophy haul that other legends at the club have. He has also been as poor now as he has been good for us. I’m sitting on the fence, but if I had to pick one I’d probably say no. The legend title gets thrown around too often anyways. Fan favorite and cult hero for sure, but not a legend. Had he left a few years ago maybe he could’ve had that title, but he’s done the team as much harm as he has done good at this point.
DDG is a legend if you consider RVP and RVN a legend. He is not S tier but done enough to have that tag. CR7 is a legend but no longer in the elite class after the way he left in such bad terms.
@@Iffman1995 well I don’t consider RVP or RVN legends. And what does elite class even mean anyway? Are you tier listing legends? They either are or aren’t there’s no kind of but not really. I’d still say Ronaldo is a legend regardless of how it ended
When cr7 put a hattrick past de gea in the euro’s thats when i knew hes dusted. Even the spain camp knew it too. Always united to see things until its too late. Hes not a legend for me. He won a prem over ten years ago😂😂😂 that dont even count anymore. Its all about here and now.. and here and now hes deadwood hes actually a hinderance for the team rather than a rock for the team. Time to go son shine.
He holds the club record for most clean sheets. What are you on about. I know you guy get veiws(😂) with these edgy controversial bs opinions but don't do that in the name of club legend. Ddg is and always will be a club legend full stop. PS: I couldn't give two toss about trophies. He was here in our darkest time and kept us relevant and for that I will be forever grateful. Learn to show some respect
@@user-kf1nm1bw8r Bullshit. Ungrateful United fans as always. Yes, last couple of seasons were a bit dodgy, but he's a far better goalie than Onana could ever be.
By your logic Bryan Robson isn't a legend as he barely won anything during his time as the main man in the 80s apart from 2 FA Cups. By the time we won 2 EPL, he was washed. Robson was still considered a legend as he carried the club during its darkest era. Just like DDG carried the club during the club darkest era in the EPL. Record gk appearence, clean sheets, 4x player of the year. He played for 12 seasons as our no.1, the last key player since the SAF era. He done too much to not be called a club legend. If you call RVN a legend for just being a key man for EPL for one season (a title we won a bunch before he came) then DDG is easily a legend. If you say his bad end cancels all his highs to be a legend then I can I say that CR7 is not a legend of the club after the way he left in such a poor way. Not only as a player but also a person (unprofessional). DDG is a legend but not S tier like Charlton, Best, Scholes and so on. He is a tier beloew elite class of Man United legend.
This is Manchester United. A United legend is an exclusive club that de Gea is not privy to. Schmeichel and VDS are clear of him anyway, and we haven't even gotten to players like Cantona, Best, Rooney, Scholes
Personally, he isn't for me. He looked elite in an era where we have been really bad. Shot stopping keepers look good in bad teams, hence why you see a lot of relegation keepers top 5 in the save stats.
@@dib9412 He holds the Man United all time clean sheet record, he's a 5x PFA TOTY appearance maker, FIFPRO XI in 2018, 2x Golden Glove Winner and a 5x United player of the year winner. That doesn't come from the idea that "he looked elite when we've been really bad". It comes from when you've been elite. Listen, its time for DDG to go, and personally I think it should've been done when Dean Henderson was coming thru. But denying that there is a major wave of recency bias going on around his name is nonsense.
@maxabah7904 paul scholes was hardly on PFA team of the year so make of that what you will. De gea was an elite shot stopper but my point is cause of the type of keeper he is, his strength as a shot stopper stands out when our defence was poor or we used to concede a lot of shots. United fans used to praise his cause he used to be top 5 in the save stats but you hardly see top keepers in them stats. His shot stopping has declined since 2019, he has been making more mistakes. As a keeper his concentration level are poor and we all know how he struggles to command his area and set pieces. This aint recency bias for me, cause ive felt like this in the season when jose was sacked.
@@dib9412 The argument that he was in the top 5 save stats kinda helps his argument. Our defense was so shambolic yet he always kept us within the top 4 fights. Do you understand how insane that is for a GK to have that effect? And the szn in which Mourinho left, was the start of DDG's decline and I agree, he hasn't been at the level for a bit now. Maybe during 19/20 szn and the 21/22 szn he was good, but apart from that, he hasn't been at the level. And with set pieces, while it has always been a weakness, every GK has a weakness. Every GK before 2018 was god awful at sweeping and distribution bar Victor Valdes, Ter Stegen and Neuer, and only one before being Van Der Sar. And we praise him now as being one of the GOAT GKs, but Van der Sar was pushed out of Juve for Buffon due to his perceived "nonchalant" demeanor. He ended up playing at Fulham for 4 years. Putting that criteria of saying he should be elite at 4 of 5 areas of goalkeeping, when essentially 2 weren't essential to goalkeeping within world football is unfair. Yes, his shot stopping's declined, and he hasn't been at the level need for 4 years now, but from 2012-2018, bar Neuer, IMO, there wasn't a better GK on the planet, and I'd argue from 2016-2018, he was the best no exception. He hasn't always been this this bad at cross stopping, his ability has waned. Even his ball playing, when he arrived that was identified as one of his strengths. I genuinely believe those parts of his game has deteriorated due to a loss of confidence. And the PFA TOTY, playing in midfield it was harder to get in. Scholes got in twice. In comparison, Lampard only made it 3 times. It's harder to quantify how good you are and you fit you in to a team, especially as a midfielder, where there are different profiles, and the more slept on profiles in the English game like a deep lying playmaker will often get overshone by more dynamic players, like Gerrard. With GKs however, its different. Its about who has been the best GK, plain and simple. There's no worrying about fitting profiles where and all that. It's who's been the best GK in the league and for 5 szns, with 4 consecutively, it was without a doubt that De Gea was the best GK not only in the league but at least top 3 itw. Has he been poor over the last few years, yes. No one with a set of eyes should argue that. Saying that he shouldn't be in the top 5 save stats when he had to is disingenuous. He has been a great servant, and he needs to leave. In my books, maybe he's a legend on the level of Van Der Sar or Carrick
No lol, casual always act like they know football, but ignore the facts when it comes to him, more times he's crumbled in high stakes situations that then impacted our seasons, all is forgotten tho when he has a game where he has 10 saves, and let's not forget he's mentality which is very backwards, doesn't act or move like a leader on the pitch, always blames others for mistakes, let's be honest he's not even had one taste of the abuse the likes of Harry Maguire and Phil Jones had when the situations were mainly caused by De gea himself, casuals are the real cancer at this club
Only a 16 year old will say de gea is a man united legend I'm old enough to remember van de saar you can say de gea is a man united great but not a legend man united is the third biggest club in the world people need to calm down
He is a Manchester United legend. However comparing him to VDS is unfair seeing as he's one of the greatest keepers of all time. You have to look at the situation he was in. On top of that he's been the single standout player for Manchester United, someone you could depend on. Yeah he wanted to leave for Real Madrid, but it didn't end up happening. And he ended the season as the 2015/16 golden glove winner with a shambolic defense.
I think his last couple of years really put a sour taste in the mouth. If he had left in 2018 when Madrid wanted him he'd have been a legend in way more people's eyes. Overall I'd give him the nod just.
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His a legend ffs
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It's not even a debate. United fans these days (especially some of these social media platforms) have some short-term memories.
Some of the threads you see of Twitter are absolutely embarrassing. So one-sided. They wanna show every mistake from a 12yr career and just gloss over everything good he has done. These younger supporters (social media heads) act like Sir Alex's winning teams were filled with world-class players 1-11.
Compared to the modern-day game, fans like Cam wouldn't put Bruce, Pallister, Wes Brown, Irwin, Butt, with Legend status. To say RVP is a legend just diminishes your whole argument. This video is clearly from a bias viewpoint.
We've had our worst finishes since Sir Alex retired, during the Moyes, LVG and Mourinho era, we were embarrassing - do you know how much more embarrassing it could have been if he didn't save us and win us games. We we lucky we finished in the top 10 that to De Gea.
It's funny how when a keeper just saves the ball, "he's doing his job" and the clean sheet record is largely down to the defence. However, you're not blaming that same defence for 5-0, 4-0, 7-3 defeats. Cmon Cam, you're supposed to be one of the more knowledgeable fans, I won't even mention your mispronounciation of some names.
I can't argue with people who say it's probably time for a change, but the disrespect has been appalling.
6 years as a below average keeper. stuck with a mega contract that you cant get rid of
Culture Cams, you never speak about Maguire in such terms despite him being objectively worse
Y’all need to comeback I need those STTV streams after each game week🙏🏾🙏🏾
To me personally, he is a legend, but yes can agree that his time has come near to the end 💯
After the world cup in 2018 when Ronaldo scored a hatty on his head he has never been the same. Thats 5 years ago. A kid born on that day would start in school this year. Decent servants but its time to go.
Hes a legend lite. He's only missing a CL winners medal to certify his legend status.
we cant win cl with weghorst
@@ubuk-5676 weve been nowhere near winning CL since ddg joined
@@manni192 yeah thats because of ddg lol you were playing with marcus rojo mate maguire
I think a lot to do with De Gea's downfall is the game changed right under his feet. Goalkeepers now have to be good with the ball and a lot of his confidence/form would've been impacted from that portion of the game.
How can you even be a footballer and not have ability with your feet?
@@usman645 no one gave a shit about a GKs tiki taka ability until Pep came along and ruined this beautiful game.
@@marcusrashford3451It wasn't Pep it was Neuer
@@usman645 Good thing goalkeepers mainly use their hands, then, huh....
Bro, you're acting like he's a goalkeeper from the 80s. It has nothing to do with that.
You’re waffling he’s a legend
He’s not
To consider Van Persie a legend but not De Gea is craazy😭🤣.
Ill say icon for RVP.
Loooool at least van persie's clutch performances resulted in trophies unlike DDG, who does the opposite when it's crunch time, FA Cup final, Sevilla this season, west ham when we missed top 4, FA Cup semi vs Chelsea, UEL Final, Chelsea 18/19 last game, so many of the top of my head lol
@@jkinsanity4205 but still to consider van Persie who was only good for ONE SEASON a legend over de Gea is crazy talk bruv.
Longevity has to count for legends. I do think there are levels to legends. Can't put De Gea in the same bracket as Charlton, but I think you can say without too much debate that he's a bigger legend than someone like Nani.
@@BlackChrishi I agree with this.
I think you can be more neutral than Loving or Hating him. I think he's at a lower level of legendary status but while i would've loved him to stay on for a season and help whoever we get in transition into the role if they're quite young, I think it's best he moves on. The timing is perfect. Unlike what his obsessives may say I don't think even his shotstopping cannot be replaced. People think that if we get a keeper who's much better on the ball, they'll automatically be a poor shotstopper (won't be surprised if that comes up somehow when a new guy comes in). Wish he'd get a better send off, though.
Nah the worst deal was giving Sancho 350k a week
But he's a baller, and he's drippy. Cam probably don't care
Maguire easily the worst
As much as I want him to go goal keepers make mistakes Van der Sar made mistakes the difference is we used to have reliable players like Rooney to erase them. We are so rubbish now mistakes are way more costly for us
that 375k a week fraud been making 15 mistakes per game.. even having prime R9 wont erase that fraud's shit shows week in week out
9:19 I don't know why people say that a GK making saves is just "doing their job" when everyone on the team is doing their job. I guess we shouldn't celebrate when Rashford or Bruno scores for us because they're just doing their job, right?
You can celebrate. But not every bruno and rashford goal is SAVING or The REASON united win.
You can celebrate. But not every bruno and rashford goal is SAVING or The REASON united win.
@@CultureCamsexactly hence why bruno is overrated also because whenever we NEED that goal it never comes 😂
It was just one of a few dumb things he mentioned.
This is the thing, people start to act disingenuous when they want to prove a point or get their side of the argument across. De Gea has no doubt made "match winning saves." When outfield players "fail to do their job", a defender misplaces a pass, a striker misses a 1 v 1 and DDG is the only player that keeps us in games by keeping out the opposition time and time again.
Not by making ordinary saves btw, we're talking worldies, with his hands or feet. When we're left asking"how did he save that. Let's not try rewrite history of DDG's United career.
@@kingtchala6832 harsh reality.
Lmao this video was already against DDG before it even started. Cams wont call DDG a United legend (someone who has won everything domestically and some trophies in Europe, holds multiple club records) but will call Rashy a legend if it comes to it. When it comes to DDG he’s only a footballer but when its Rashy then its “come on people players aren’t robots dont be so harsh” we all see your bias. Pointless video, should have let someone objective do this video
No rashy isnt a legend. U cant just put words in my mouth😂
De Gea has the Wenger effect over him. The later half of his time doesn’t sit well
Don’t be silly. Wenger won 3 premier leagues 5 fa cups and took Arsenal to their first ever champions league final. Revolutionized the English game. Don’t make such a poor comparison again fella.
Has the show finished?
on fonem?
@@nirofx sorry not sure what that is? But they used to do a show every Sunday after the last game has been played and discuss all the weekend games. Haven’t seen the show since the league has started and they haven’t uploaded in a month. Wanted to no if it is finished or restarting later?
@@rizwanhussain5196they took the show to DR sports now Robbie must have offered some dough 😂
Absolutely not imo but he's served as best he could and has been world class at times.
Good servant, cult hero at best.
i agree with you cams there is levels to Legends 🤝 we can't lower legend standard/criteria.
No way guy said Van perise is Legend and De Gea is not he won more trophies the reason people do not take this kind of RUclipsrs real with zero ball knowledge
Is that how you define legends? 😂. Trickling trophies over a 12 year span. Fair enough😭
That RVP line should render the rest if Cam's argument as void tbh.
Let's call Nani, Wellbeck, Berbatov and Anderson legends if RVP is one.
@@kingtchala6832 U think they had the sole impact Rvp did yeah loooooooool
@@kingtchala6832 and did you hear the part where i said "IF U WANNA PUT VAN PERSIE IN THERE EVEN" which CLEARLY means its a debatable name. comprehension is super key
Bale would have been the best player to ever play for united after Ronaldo put some respect on his name
So can I unsub from this channel now that STTV is on Dr Sports?
It's not even a debate. United fans these days (especially some of these social media platforms) have some short-term memories. These younger supporters (social media heads) act like Sir Alex's winning teams were filled with world-class players 1-11. Money in football has changed the game beyonf comprehension. Sir Alex could win a league with Welbeck, Anderson and Cleverly playing loads of matches.
Compared to the modern-day game, fans like Cam wouldn't put Bruce, Pallister, Wes Brown, Irwin, Butt, with Legend status, cos their names arent sexy enough or you never watched them. To say RVP is a legend just diminishes your whole argument. This video is clearly from a bias viewpoint.
We've had our worst finishes since Sir Alex retired, during the Moyes, LVG and Mourinho era, we were embarrassing - do you know how much more embarrassing it could have been if he didn't save us and win us games. We we lucky we finished in the top 10 thanks to De Gea.
It's funny how when a keeper just saves the ball, "he's doing his job" and the clean sheet record is largely down to the defence. However, you're not blaming that same defence for 5-0, 4-0, 7-3 defeats. Cmon Cam, you're supposed to be one of the more knowledgeable fans, I won't even mention your mispronounciation of some names.
I can't argue with people who say it's probably time for a change, but the disrespect has been appalling.
“Cam wouldnt put”. How do you know what i would put? Irwin n bruce are definitely legends. Brown is not a legend. Nice servant. Ive never blamed DDG for the 7-0s lol. Please check my videos. Youre making your own things up and putting it on me.
Ddg isnt a legend. Very forced “legend”.
De Gea is Utds best goalie ever till Onana comes
No he isn't
No player in this current utd team will ever be a legend until they win the PL or CL
You would probably say Marcus rashford is a Man Utd legend.won’t take your opinion seriously in the slightest
No.
Van persie is a legend lmaooooo
It’s such a difficult question. On the one, there was a 4 - 5 year period or so where he single handedly kept us in contention for European spots, winning the Sir Matt Busby 4 times in that period and winning a 5th one a few years later. On the other hand, he’s never really been a leader nor does he have the trophy haul that other legends at the club have. He has also been as poor now as he has been good for us.
I’m sitting on the fence, but if I had to pick one I’d probably say no. The legend title gets thrown around too often anyways. Fan favorite and cult hero for sure, but not a legend. Had he left a few years ago maybe he could’ve had that title, but he’s done the team as much harm as he has done good at this point.
DDG is a legend if you consider RVP and RVN a legend. He is not S tier but done enough to have that tag. CR7 is a legend but no longer in the elite class after the way he left in such bad terms.
@@Iffman1995 well I don’t consider RVP or RVN legends. And what does elite class even mean anyway? Are you tier listing legends? They either are or aren’t there’s no kind of but not really. I’d still say Ronaldo is a legend regardless of how it ended
Lol guess you’re not preeing ETH anymore cams 😅
Is Ruud Van Nistelrooy a United legend Cams?
Yes
No
The mount ting is a piss take but thank god ETH woke up on ddg and all the ddg fans are finally done 🎉
When cr7 put a hattrick past de gea in the euro’s thats when i knew hes dusted. Even the spain camp knew it too. Always united to see things until its too late. Hes not a legend for me. He won a prem over ten years ago😂😂😂 that dont even count anymore. Its all about here and now.. and here and now hes deadwood hes actually a hinderance for the team rather than a rock for the team. Time to go son shine.
If I’m being honest I think Edwin Van de Saar is overrated
😂
He holds the club record for most clean sheets. What are you on about. I know you guy get veiws(😂) with these edgy controversial bs opinions but don't do that in the name of club legend. Ddg is and always will be a club legend full stop.
PS: I couldn't give two toss about trophies. He was here in our darkest time and kept us relevant and for that I will be forever grateful.
Learn to show some respect
you are deluded, hes the reason why we lost a lot of finals, done more harm than good
@@user-kf1nm1bw8r Bullshit. Ungrateful United fans as always. Yes, last couple of seasons were a bit dodgy, but he's a far better goalie than Onana could ever be.
The definition of agenda
By your logic Bryan Robson isn't a legend as he barely won anything during his time as the main man in the 80s apart from 2 FA Cups. By the time we won 2 EPL, he was washed. Robson was still considered a legend as he carried the club during its darkest era. Just like DDG carried the club during the club darkest era in the EPL. Record gk appearence, clean sheets, 4x player of the year. He played for 12 seasons as our no.1, the last key player since the SAF era. He done too much to not be called a club legend. If you call RVN a legend for just being a key man for EPL for one season (a title we won a bunch before he came) then DDG is easily a legend.
If you say his bad end cancels all his highs to be a legend then I can I say that CR7 is not a legend of the club after the way he left in such a poor way. Not only as a player but also a person (unprofessional). DDG is a legend but not S tier like Charlton, Best, Scholes and so on. He is a tier beloew elite class of Man United legend.
No i wont lol. So do you think ddg is a legend. Yes or no. Simple question asked
@@CultureCams Yes
Maguire is the worst contract ever
Why have I never heard this De Glued nickname 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
He has another one as well De Error
van persie is not a MU legend
And he won de gea Only league Title
This is Manchester United. A United legend is an exclusive club that de Gea is not privy to. Schmeichel and VDS are clear of him anyway, and we haven't even gotten to players like Cantona, Best, Rooney, Scholes
Is Ruud a legend
No question he’s a legend but he needs to be moved on now
Based on uniteds standards he isn't
Personally, he isn't for me. He looked elite in an era where we have been really bad. Shot stopping keepers look good in bad teams, hence why you see a lot of relegation keepers top 5 in the save stats.
Y'all suffer heavily from recency bias my god😭🤣🤣🤣
@@liyakhanyanonkondlo523 any other points u wanna make or just "recency bias"?
@@dib9412 He holds the Man United all time clean sheet record, he's a 5x PFA TOTY appearance maker, FIFPRO XI in 2018, 2x Golden Glove Winner and a 5x United player of the year winner. That doesn't come from the idea that "he looked elite when we've been really bad". It comes from when you've been elite. Listen, its time for DDG to go, and personally I think it should've been done when Dean Henderson was coming thru. But denying that there is a major wave of recency bias going on around his name is nonsense.
@maxabah7904 paul scholes was hardly on PFA team of the year so make of that what you will.
De gea was an elite shot stopper but my point is cause of the type of keeper he is, his strength as a shot stopper stands out when our defence was poor or we used to concede a lot of shots. United fans used to praise his cause he used to be top 5 in the save stats but you hardly see top keepers in them stats.
His shot stopping has declined since 2019, he has been making more mistakes.
As a keeper his concentration level are poor and we all know how he struggles to command his area and set pieces.
This aint recency bias for me, cause ive felt like this in the season when jose was sacked.
@@dib9412 The argument that he was in the top 5 save stats kinda helps his argument. Our defense was so shambolic yet he always kept us within the top 4 fights. Do you understand how insane that is for a GK to have that effect? And the szn in which Mourinho left, was the start of DDG's decline and I agree, he hasn't been at the level for a bit now. Maybe during 19/20 szn and the 21/22 szn he was good, but apart from that, he hasn't been at the level.
And with set pieces, while it has always been a weakness, every GK has a weakness. Every GK before 2018 was god awful at sweeping and distribution bar Victor Valdes, Ter Stegen and Neuer, and only one before being Van Der Sar. And we praise him now as being one of the GOAT GKs, but Van der Sar was pushed out of Juve for Buffon due to his perceived "nonchalant" demeanor. He ended up playing at Fulham for 4 years. Putting that criteria of saying he should be elite at 4 of 5 areas of goalkeeping, when essentially 2 weren't essential to goalkeeping within world football is unfair.
Yes, his shot stopping's declined, and he hasn't been at the level need for 4 years now, but from 2012-2018, bar Neuer, IMO, there wasn't a better GK on the planet, and I'd argue from 2016-2018, he was the best no exception. He hasn't always been this this bad at cross stopping, his ability has waned. Even his ball playing, when he arrived that was identified as one of his strengths. I genuinely believe those parts of his game has deteriorated due to a loss of confidence.
And the PFA TOTY, playing in midfield it was harder to get in. Scholes got in twice. In comparison, Lampard only made it 3 times. It's harder to quantify how good you are and you fit you in to a team, especially as a midfielder, where there are different profiles, and the more slept on profiles in the English game like a deep lying playmaker will often get overshone by more dynamic players, like Gerrard. With GKs however, its different. Its about who has been the best GK, plain and simple. There's no worrying about fitting profiles where and all that. It's who's been the best GK in the league and for 5 szns, with 4 consecutively, it was without a doubt that De Gea was the best GK not only in the league but at least top 3 itw.
Has he been poor over the last few years, yes. No one with a set of eyes should argue that. Saying that he shouldn't be in the top 5 save stats when he had to is disingenuous. He has been a great servant, and he needs to leave. In my books, maybe he's a legend on the level of Van Der Sar or Carrick
No lol, casual always act like they know football, but ignore the facts when it comes to him, more times he's crumbled in high stakes situations that then impacted our seasons, all is forgotten tho when he has a game where he has 10 saves, and let's not forget he's mentality which is very backwards, doesn't act or move like a leader on the pitch, always blames others for mistakes, let's be honest he's not even had one taste of the abuse the likes of Harry Maguire and Phil Jones had when the situations were mainly caused by De gea himself, casuals are the real cancer at this club
he isnt.. never was and never will be, the worst gk in our history.
NOPEE! The last time we won a title he was sitting bench
I don’t rate De Gea either but this isn’t true lol
@@obi2349His minutes were split that season. Obv I exaggerated with the bench thing,
@@skavrosp1 so you just lied.
Only a 16 year old will say de gea is a man united legend I'm old enough to remember van de saar you can say de gea is a man united great but not a legend man united is the third biggest club in the world people need to calm down
He is a Manchester United legend. However comparing him to VDS is unfair seeing as he's one of the greatest keepers of all time. You have to look at the situation he was in. On top of that he's been the single standout player for Manchester United, someone you could depend on. Yeah he wanted to leave for Real Madrid, but it didn't end up happening. And he ended the season as the 2015/16 golden glove winner with a shambolic defense.
I just think they are better than him
He's not a legend he's been terrible for 5yrs and the teams worst player for 3
Spot on
His worst 3 years have been with Maguire here so that’s a lie off rip
@@marcus8030 I'd rather have maguire stay and degea leave
@@fuhadakindele9294 That’s because Maguire ain’t playing
Legend gets thrown out too easily lmao
That brudda has been ass apart for couple if seasons
I think his last couple of years really put a sour taste in the mouth.
If he had left in 2018 when Madrid wanted him he'd have been a legend in way more people's eyes. Overall I'd give him the nod just.
Nah 6 bad seasons 6 good ones not a legend
@@user-fe7xw6tw7b 6 bad ones is a stretch, only 3 of them have been truly bad, and one of them was his first year at the club