Why do Manchester United want Joshua Zirkzee?

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  • Опубликовано: 1 июл 2024
  • Welcome to The Athletic FC's RUclips channel, where best-in-class journalism meets video.
    Every transfer window, every team everywhere needs a new striker to bring in the goals. But why are Manchester United looking at Joshua Zirkzee from Bologna? Why is Dominic Calvert-Lewin attracting attention despite his injury issues? Why are Chelsea still looking for more players?
    Joe Devine, JJ Bull and Jon Mackenzie dig into The Athletic's DealSheet, your weekly guide to what is happening in the summer transfer window, to find out.
    Find more transfer analysis you can trust from David Ornstein and other journalists here in The Athletic's DealSheet:
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    Chapters:
    00:00 Intro
    01:14 Why do Man Utd want Zirkzee?
    09:12 Why is Dominic Calvert-Lewin attracting attention?
    16:53 Chelsea's Striker Search
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Комментарии • 129

  • @TheAthleticFC
    @TheAthleticFC  3 дня назад +18

    What striker should your club buy this season? 👇

    • @UnbiasedBayernFan
      @UnbiasedBayernFan 3 дня назад +1

      Not categorically a striker, but sell Sané or Coman and get Nico Williams for around 60m euros

    • @youngmoneylover6260
      @youngmoneylover6260 3 дня назад

      none, we have erling haaland

    • @legrange1977
      @legrange1977 3 дня назад +2

      ROOOOOOOONNEEEEEEEEEYYY

    • @willyum3920
      @willyum3920 3 дня назад +2

      ALL of them so noone else can have one

    • @-_-DatDude
      @-_-DatDude 3 дня назад +1

      We(Man Utd) should be going for experienced strikers who have low total shots per 90(under 3) and a high non-penalty goal scoring prowess. Someone like Dovbyk or Sørloth would fit the billing. Our wingers don't pass the ball enough.

  • @mahbluebird
    @mahbluebird 3 дня назад +237

    Joe Devine looks a little bit like if you made Pochettino really really British

  • @mojojojo6525
    @mojojojo6525 3 дня назад +130

    The trio is back
    More content please

  • @r4lfxd
    @r4lfxd 3 дня назад +38

    I am baffled by the Calvert-Lewin links. This season he has looked more fit for the Championship and he is made of glass.

    • @Ayah_Mia
      @Ayah_Mia 2 дня назад +1

      Newcastle under Howe is definitely at his level. Unless Newcastle hire a proper intercontinental well-known manager.

  • @InesVandehoof
    @InesVandehoof 3 дня назад +59

    Giroud and DCL should never be mentioned in the same sentence

  • @TurtleFPL
    @TurtleFPL 4 дня назад +40

    JJ's dignity shirt is just superb

  • @klnv6564
    @klnv6564 4 дня назад +61

    DCL goes for 30 lira if he's not English

    • @TheIrishFoley
      @TheIrishFoley 3 дня назад

      Wtf is lira

    • @willywonka7812
      @willywonka7812 3 дня назад +1

      A currency. Well, not that current​@@TheIrishFoley

    • @shishsuke
      @shishsuke 3 дня назад +1

      He would go for that amount if he was being transferred for any other reason than cooking the books lol

  • @stevenlongan5791
    @stevenlongan5791 3 дня назад +19

    Okay, Who else saw the "Points are bad" Euros graphic?! You can't flash that up and then not tell us how you got those scores! Where's the theme song?!

    • @donukb
      @donukb 3 дня назад +2

      You'll find daily Points Are Bad score updates on Joe's Twitter.

  • @pro-xinyang
    @pro-xinyang 4 дня назад +45

    Damn tifo ❤ back to back like _Drake_ 😂

    • @Frazzled02
      @Frazzled02 3 дня назад +9

      Back to Back? I like that record

    • @hilarytinomiti
      @hilarytinomiti 12 часов назад +1

      @@Frazzled02imma get back to that, for the record.

  • @sanketkhandagale7828
    @sanketkhandagale7828 2 дня назад +4

    We want these type of content…. Not that corporate meeting type

  • @coleyboy1921
    @coleyboy1921 3 дня назад +2

    I think a Zirksee lineup would be crazy, Garnacho or Rashford left whoever is on form, bruno right where he's been consitently amazing, and mctominay crashing. That would be a lineup absolutely full of goals and VERY solid in defense.

  • @SkullSnax
    @SkullSnax 3 дня назад +14

    The bit that excites me about Zirkzee is he's the kind of striker United should have got last summer. They had a quite successful attacking unit based on Weghorst or Martial dropping in to receive the ball, making gaps in the backline and then Martinez/Shaw/Eriksen/Bruno playing "up, back and through" off Weghorst to Rashford. Weghorst and Martial averaged about 2 shots per 90 that season, while the players around them all got double or more each.
    Then Weghorst's loan ends, they go for Kane but he's too expensive, and instead of finding somebody (like Zirkzee) who can play a similar creative forward role, they get Hojlund who just wants to score goals. The whole balance of the frontline is off because everyone wants to run behind, nobody wants to drop and create space. It takes Hojlund about 6 months to figure out that positioning, but in those 6 months United finish bottom of their Champions League group, well out of the top 4 race and Rashford's confidence is obliterated.
    I said at the time, you either bet on Hojlund and rebuild the frontline for him, you get rid of Hojlund and find somebody more like Weghorst, or you be patient while Ten Hag coaches his striker to play a way he's not used to.
    Looks like they've gone for option C, but they're not making the same mistake in who they buy as a backup/alternative. Get somebody who fits the system better and United will score more goals than getting an elite striker who won't get any service.

    • @Sabu113
      @Sabu113 3 дня назад +1

      United bottomed out of CL because Onana was horrific. Hound got the goals then.

    • @paingainmayn
      @paingainmayn 2 дня назад

      The system you're talking about wasn't successful at all! United's goal difference was shocking last year as well. Something is fundamentally wrong with the attacking setup under Ten Hag.

    • @danecadette4714
      @danecadette4714 День назад

      Exactly. HOJLUND Scored goals in the group stage.​@@Sabu113

  • @spyculture
    @spyculture 3 дня назад +6

    I enjoyed the shoutout for Nándor Hidegkuti

  • @RoadsideRoamer
    @RoadsideRoamer 3 дня назад +3

    Tifo making Game Changer/Dropout references is the most joy I've felt in my entire life, probably.

  • @zanamandaza
    @zanamandaza 3 дня назад +17

    Zirkzee sounds a lot like Martial

    • @JamailvanWestering
      @JamailvanWestering 3 дня назад +11

      Unlike Martial, Zirkzee had to work harder to where he has gotten

    • @Mopark25
      @Mopark25 3 дня назад +1

      ​@@JamailvanWesteringWhat does that even mean?

    • @jiangpingchai24
      @jiangpingchai24 3 дня назад

      Rooney

  • @benvanderwall2946
    @benvanderwall2946 3 дня назад +6

    These strikers would be real Gamechangers 😉

    • @Chris-zs6fd
      @Chris-zs6fd 3 дня назад +2

      I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO NOTICED!!!

  • @declanfrew6958
    @declanfrew6958 3 дня назад +2

    I love watching these videos at bed time, Jon puts me to sleep (in the nicest way possible)

  • @DeanHenderson
    @DeanHenderson День назад

    About DCL, what no one mentions is that it was Duncan Ferguson playing a 4-4-2 that got him playing his best. Then when Ancelotti came in he gradually moved away from 4-4-2 and this coincided with his gradual drop off in form before the disastrous appointment of Rafa and the beginning of his injury problems (go figure). It is frustrating to me that Dyche loves a 4-4-2 but has been loathe to play it.

  • @lukew6725
    @lukew6725 3 дня назад

    Loving the more frequent videos, keep it up! 👍

  • @Bleech606
    @Bleech606 3 дня назад +2

    "You can still sell them even though he will have played for Man United after that point" 😆

  • @Creees
    @Creees 3 дня назад +2

    Zirkzee gets more touches because Italian league has a different style. Theres more flow.
    Epl has become a bit boring and just passing between goalkeeper and defenders

  • @daireguiney464
    @daireguiney464 3 дня назад

    Joe's really looking great recently, fair play brother 👏

  • @jesusflores5952
    @jesusflores5952 3 дня назад

    what device do you guys use to show the players on the screen i would like to get one

  • @QUSAI1996_
    @QUSAI1996_ 3 дня назад +1

    Welcome back

  • @jeromeoprescod4722
    @jeromeoprescod4722 3 дня назад +1

    This was a frustrating watch normally i come away informed but i find myself disgreeing with bruno profile his best position is shadow stt or crashing the box u want bruno as high as possible and being the player to finish the action or to pass to the player to finish the action. Zirkee and bruno make perfect sense and u dont need move players 7:10 out of position. Think where bruno position was under ole and playing upfront with martial

  • @ivankut
    @ivankut День назад

    Would love to see a couple episodes where you just play whatever is on those video cassettes behind Joe.

  • @rulifaller8474
    @rulifaller8474 3 дня назад +3

    Zirkzee is a very interesting case. He has not been in the Dutch squad until now, and he was injured at the end of the Bologna season and I’ll during the Euros. Plus Koeman is obviously a conservative coach who would hesitate to play a player with a different profile like Zirkzee. But all the noise from the camp and the media is that he is making a great impression in training unlike some of the other bench players. So it would be really fun to see him in the next round.
    I am not sure that going to United would be a good decision for him or Ten Hag. Probably going to a top club in Italywould suit him more, obviously joining Motta at Juve would make sense. And if he does go to England, the United mess and Ten Hag staying power does not look great.

  • @TheOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
    @TheOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO 12 часов назад

    Hojlund got 10 goals with no service. Imagine if Rashford or Antony could actually get the ball to him.

  • @87frankson
    @87frankson День назад

    If Ten Hag can transform Zirkzee in a prolific striker like Tadic, it will be a huge succes. Hojlunds linkup play is bang average, poor. The other forwards of Man Utd also lack teamplay and vision, so I'm pretty excited.

  • @ne48largekid17
    @ne48largekid17 3 дня назад +1

    I like the idea of keeping a back 3 of shaw, Martinez and Maguire especially if it lets Martinez invert at times

    • @cameronjones8641
      @cameronjones8641 3 дня назад

      We don't have any obvious wing backs. Square pegs in round holes.

  • @erdnasiul87
    @erdnasiul87 День назад

    So... Man Utd wants an unproven goal scorer/striker that will make their best players change positions?
    Brillant

  • @user-uw3rs7zw7c
    @user-uw3rs7zw7c 3 дня назад

    Like the tactical analysis of Chelsea ✔️

  • @peppathebeast7490
    @peppathebeast7490 4 дня назад

    How are Chelsea's attacking recruitment plans affected by the change in their managerial approach?

  • @salah-eddineeltousy552
    @salah-eddineeltousy552 3 дня назад

    El Kaabi Olympiacos, scored 5 past Aston villa in two games, should surely get a big team

  • @5678hgvhjkjnbnm
    @5678hgvhjkjnbnm 2 дня назад

    Idk how you could work with Joe and actually do an effective days work....

  • @kingsleyewool3618
    @kingsleyewool3618 День назад

    We can do more of the 4-2-4 more often

  • @tjr2109
    @tjr2109 3 дня назад

    I have that t-shirt also. Dignity Luanne. We didn't all go to Gudger university.

  • @batuksri
    @batuksri 2 дня назад

    Good plan to sign Dutch players. They are out of Euro so will be well rested.

  • @damiandamico4715
    @damiandamico4715 3 дня назад

    The strikers Man United and Newcastle want this summer and the strikers that Chelsea want this week. They will be bored of them come January and want a new one.

  • @weechinjansonchua8061
    @weechinjansonchua8061 3 дня назад

    It’s like Alen Boksic and Davor Suker of Croatia.

  • @HungryWinnebago
    @HungryWinnebago 3 дня назад

    Who does the camera work for these guys? They are always on point.

  • @simonhdfifa1685
    @simonhdfifa1685 3 дня назад

    The holy trio oh yeah baby

  • @benbobbb
    @benbobbb 3 дня назад

    I’m excited to talk about strikers… and transfers

  • @fugaziishime
    @fugaziishime 3 дня назад

    Marc Guiu is gonna be great for chelsea.

  • @zaidabrahams2005
    @zaidabrahams2005 2 дня назад

    Scared me with that intro sounding like United are linked with DCL

  • @Wedelinskyj
    @Wedelinskyj День назад

    Oh please Zirkzee don't go to Man U. As a dutch fan I can't see a talent like this go to waste.

  • @magnusandersen9669
    @magnusandersen9669 День назад

    Make a video about Ugarte to man utd pls

  • @pixelnoob1
    @pixelnoob1 3 дня назад +2

    Gamechanger reference on JJ's intro?

    • @pixelnoob1
      @pixelnoob1 3 дня назад

      And Jon's!! Love it

    • @benvanderwall2946
      @benvanderwall2946 3 дня назад +2

      It was all of them, Joe's was a Dropout reference too!

    • @pixelnoob1
      @pixelnoob1 3 дня назад +1

      ​@@benvanderwall2946 Niiice didn't notice the Brennan quote!

  • @tee_viii
    @tee_viii 3 дня назад

    Actually I believe the first false 9 was Mathiaas Sindelaar for Austria in the 1930s 😅😅

    • @jonbolton491
      @jonbolton491 2 дня назад

      He said modern. Still, you must be a football encyclopaedia.

  • @geordiedog1749
    @geordiedog1749 3 дня назад

    DC-L is a risk. But then if Eddie Howes magic works it could be one of those times I have to pretend I said something completely different.

  • @dY5FUNCT10N4L
    @dY5FUNCT10N4L 3 дня назад +1

    IT'S DIGNITY LOUANNE!!!

  • @jeromeoprescod4722
    @jeromeoprescod4722 3 дня назад

    The fact he didnt no totti game is a concern of creditable how old is this guy? 3:40

  • @LarryLoveSosa69
    @LarryLoveSosa69 3 дня назад

    Please bring back sensible transfers

  • @SkyFootballPlus
    @SkyFootballPlus 3 дня назад

    Joshua Zirkzee's playing style does not seem suitable for the premerleague. There, players are required to process faster and stronger

  • @LeDoomed
    @LeDoomed 3 дня назад

    Is there any news on where Ivan Toney is going?

    • @MS-sy8ls
      @MS-sy8ls 3 дня назад +1

      Bit of a gamble…

  • @hdtube7
    @hdtube7 3 дня назад

    When will sensible transfers be back

  • @brookwakie3406
    @brookwakie3406 18 часов назад

    Looks like they have learned their lesson making up stories about ETH Getting the sack and pushing for that outcome now they have to put disclaimers everytime 😂😂

  • @Mario10211
    @Mario10211 3 дня назад +1

    Chelsea need a stand-alone Podcast, please do it 💙

    • @v2huhroon
      @v2huhroon 3 дня назад

      The athletic has one! U don’t have to be subscribed to the athletic either it’s called straight outta cobham

    • @Mario10211
      @Mario10211 3 дня назад

      @@v2huhroon really! How can i hear it?

    • @elixir8417
      @elixir8417 3 дня назад

      @@Mario10211 basically anywhere that you listen to music e.g. Spotify

    • @v2huhroon
      @v2huhroon День назад

      @@Mario10211 its on the podcast app for iphone or spotify/ anwhere that has podcasts!

  • @paingainmayn
    @paingainmayn 2 дня назад

    Lol nobody is paying 30-40 mill for DCL.

  • @sersarsor
    @sersarsor День назад

    this is such a bad transfer choice, as an arsenal fan i hope man utd get him

  • @barrygreene007
    @barrygreene007 11 часов назад

    Mark Goldbridge has it out for these hipsters 😂

  • @TheDukeWin
    @TheDukeWin 2 дня назад

    United playing a back 3, mark my words

  • @lambert8915
    @lambert8915 3 дня назад

    Van Nistlerooy 🎉

  • @EvieWillNotDie
    @EvieWillNotDie 3 дня назад

    "many fine journalists" they exist?

  • @Nimreitz
    @Nimreitz 16 часов назад

    Read your copy of Inverting the Pyramid again, Joe! Sindelar was the first false 9!

  • @ImmortalMachine
    @ImmortalMachine 14 часов назад

    Lets buy a striker who doesn't score goals. What?

  • @C0WB0Yv
    @C0WB0Yv 3 дня назад

    Why get rid of Martial to buy the English version of him.. Calvert Lewin is a waste of time.

  • @ondank
    @ondank 3 дня назад

    Chelsea want a striker? So nothing has changed in a decade then?

  • @MS-sy8ls
    @MS-sy8ls 3 дня назад

    DCL is injury prone and bang average

  • @harryt2322
    @harryt2322 3 дня назад

    DCL can barely stay fit for 10 games a season, never mind hit 10 league goals

  • @walterdacruz9567
    @walterdacruz9567 3 дня назад

    So. Man United wants a striker who does everything well but doesn't score goals. 😂 Buy a winger then.

  • @mura6093
    @mura6093 3 дня назад

    Points are bad !!!

  • @moojito3223
    @moojito3223 3 дня назад +1

    JJ's laptop half hanging off the desk is stressing me out.

    • @_surreal99
      @_surreal99 3 дня назад +2

      'Half' is an exaggeration

  • @Birdy8441
    @Birdy8441 День назад

    Are we selling

  • @sld1776
    @sld1776 3 дня назад +2

    United: why have one forward who doesn't score when you can have two?

    • @cameronjones8641
      @cameronjones8641 3 дня назад +3

      😂😂😂👌🏼 To be fair I think if any striker had Garnacho and Rashford either side, they wouldn't score much either. They are utterly selfish, barely pass to him and 9 times out of 10 dribble into nothing or shoot. At one point last year, Antony had passed to Hojland twice in 5.5 hours of football together😂. Hojland actually scored highet than his XG.

    • @Mopark25
      @Mopark25 3 дня назад +2

      Hojlund scores plenty, he's just had no service and needed time to settle into the league.

  • @oscarmalaakgosi2665
    @oscarmalaakgosi2665 3 дня назад

    Arsenal?

  • @user-nd3ks4mi7b
    @user-nd3ks4mi7b 3 дня назад

    Did Jon just say that Bruno Fernandes isnt a box crasher? Did he start watching him last season? If anything, Zirkzee will bring Bruno's output back to pre 21-22 levels.

  • @trevie7622
    @trevie7622 2 дня назад

    DCL is just terrible. I really don't know what these folks are on about

  • @kanameitsuki8130
    @kanameitsuki8130 2 дня назад

    Phenomenal way to end a podcast.

  • @eddowling1937
    @eddowling1937 День назад

    Last thing United need is a striker who drops deep who doesn’t score that much 🙈

  • @sherradgordon
    @sherradgordon 3 дня назад

    Mason Mount needs company and I medical care room

  • @ne48largekid17
    @ne48largekid17 3 дня назад

    XG per 90 is useless… if I play one PL game and score a goal I have the best xg per 90 in the league

    • @jamito200
      @jamito200 3 дня назад

      No you don’t mate. And what would you prefer - total xG? That would not take into account total minutes played

    • @RL-
      @RL- 2 дня назад

      Not really. If it takes you 18 shots to score that goal, you have the worst average in the league.

  • @francisgift2491
    @francisgift2491 3 дня назад

    I know somethings 😂😂😂

  • @nyashamambo787
    @nyashamambo787 22 часа назад

    Zirkzee is a Rooney

  • @Doodoofart725
    @Doodoofart725 3 дня назад +1

    I dont care, Euros are happening

  • @seanbayard2012
    @seanbayard2012 3 дня назад

    Is this sensible transfers replacement 🫠