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SHOT 2017: Maxim-9 Integrally Suppressed Pistol
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- Опубликовано: 15 янв 2017
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Well, against all expectations, we found something really cool and exciting at SHOT Show 2017 Range Day! It's SilencerCo's "Maxim-9", an integrally suppressed new pistol design. It was built from the ground up to be suppressed, using a fixed barrel and delayed blowback system (they won't let us see the exact delaying mechanism, although we suspect it is roller-delayed).
The Maxim-9 is quiet (hearing safe with all +P and +P+ loads in the long version; hearing safe with subsonic loads in the short version), fast-shooting, and generally really excellent. We can see this being a great piece for home defense, competition, and police carry - almost anything, really. We are pretty excited to get our hands on a couple production models to tinker with!
"This gun's mechanism is unlike anything else." *Ian pops out of background* "Oh really?"
Our lord and savior Gun Jesus
For everyone wanting to know how it works, they have a patent on file so you can take a look yourself.
In reality, it's an asymmetric roller delayed blowback where the slide acts as the block that the roller "hides in", and the chamber block on the frame is the "locking" recess for the roller on a typical mp5/g3 roller system. The "roller" in the Maxim is a captured lever with a pair of camming surfaces (i.e. a round bit at one end) attached to the actual breech block. In the patent, I feel like it's almost a lever delayed blowback (FAMAS) since the slide is supposed to separate from the actual breechblock a little before the breechblock begins to reciprocate, but the real thing has the breechblock pinned in place. Either way, it redistributes the rearward energy laterally into the slide and chamber just like a roller delayed system.
The two rods at the top of the "slide" are the recoil springs and guide rods so the single roller delay doesn't torque the frame out of whack.
As Ian points out in a reply to a comment, this is actually unique and cool. The guy wasn't full of BS, unlike most of shot show.
Underappreciated comment! Thanks for the Info!
Not even i understand it? Is there a link to the patent?
@@trentmorrison6074 I replied with a .link, but youtube decided it didn't like links to google patents. Go figure. Google US patent US9879934.
Look at Fig 7A, callout 98,100,108.
The hero we need.
Thank you .
I wouldn't want Ian challenging any of my assertions.. It would be a good indication my assertions are wrong.
InvaderVin that did come to mind, as well as the Walther quip at the end by karl
Patrick O'leary Why does Karl not like Walther?
EisenKreig he likes his CCP
InvaderVin yeah, I really wouldn't want to be "interrogated" by either Ian or Karl.
They're like professors but with guns. Discussing their field, they will bring you to the end of your knowledge in about 3 sentences whether or not they're trying to be demeaning. They know wayy more than a healthy individual would ever hope to know about their expertise/field.
Knowing Ian he'll find this one obscure 1890's one of a kind, hand made prototype found in Western Mozambique that uses the same action as SilencerCo's pistol. Just joking (maybe) Great content as always guys, can't wait for more SHOT oddities. Have a great day :)
> Western Mozambique
I giggled.
That fires a 6.225 mm bullet
"I'm not going to go into that level of detail"............Gun Jesus raises his hand and locusts descend upon him
Like what? You won't explain the basic operating principles of your gun? Roller Dellay? Flapper Delay? rotating bolt delay?
@@Strawberry92fs a comment from Arthur C. around here explains it in detail- it's a sort of asymmetrical roller-delayed thing- and says that the patents are available to see yourself, though the final design varies from it slightly. Seems they just didn't wanna do a teardown here.
Looks like a sci-fi pistol. Pretty cool.
Multipass.
James King She knows it's a multipass!
Looks like the 10mm pistol from Fallout 4
the dominator from psycho pass to be specific
Frank Tervoort: Well, feel free to call the police when someone is breaking into your home in the middle of the night. I'll go with the option to protect myself so the pictures the coroner takes are of the perpetrator rather than me.
I bet after disassembly, Ian figures out what they borrowed the delayed blowback design from.
Or just search up the patent.
"It has a Walther aesthetic, but it feels like a good gun"
Wise guy Karl over there with the zingers
I need this in 10mm, then I need a nuclear war and a vault suit.
The downside is that, unless you only use really light loads, you would need a much bigger suppressor.
the supressor is as big as you want it to be, you could keep stacking them on eachother like lego until it was as big as a rifle
@@TonyTylerDraws, you should tell 2020 they should have bought it.
You know, it's pretty incredible that, on top of making an incredibly good, useful, and quiet pistol, they made it look unbelievably cool.
Shot one of these last year at a range in Maine. Total novice shooter so I can't offer any professional opinion, but it was quite pleasant to try out. The suppressor gets very hot quite quickly, but my situation was a bit different because when I rented it, the dude goes "Ok I'm gonna give you what I call the Robocop mag to use with this" and hands me a 33 round magazine lol.
Hey, a SHOT show video where someone's asking the _right_ questions.
Oh well Ian, one for Forgotten weapons in ten years time!
I so wanted Ian to go "That delayed blow back mechanism looks like a derivative of Hungarian gun X designed by obscure Finnish designer Y in 1913"!
It's the Halo Magnum. You'll never unsee it now
No its the Halo Magnum SOCOM from odst but in 9mm :)
Thankfully I think you're way off-mark. I can't see it in order to unsee it. The halo magnum has a ridiculously oversized trigger guard, if this did, then I wouldn't be able to unsee it.
I personally think it looks like aborderlands repeater kinda from bl1
I saw the magsec 4 from perfect dark
Looks more like robocop's gun to me.
You guys are the only Shot show coverage I watch.
Yeah you get spammed by all these other gun channels making too much videos about boring shit.
Fergesslich Cough TFBTV Cough
Cough cough :^)
EisenKreig Patric seemed completely uninterested by the Maxim, and I learned more in 2 minutes from Ian's questions than Patric's whole video.
River Styx Armory I don't think those guys truly understand how critical Alex was as a host. They need to fill that void with someone professional quick. Because now it's a toss up if I even watch one of their videos. Forgotten Weapons and InRange don't have that problem from me.
prepare to see this in every sci-fi movie for the next decade lol
"Enforcement mode: Lethal Eliminator. Please aim carefully and eliminate the target."
Perfect dark, Magsec-9. God I feel old
-4*
Ian: “so do you consider the delaying mechanism to be proprietary?” Guy: “yes” Ian internally: *we’ll see about that*
"The tyranny of the right-handed oppressor strikes again!"
Thank you for using a lav mic! There has been terrible audio on other channels. You the guys rule!
+Jared Walsh We just got it in time for the show. So far it has been great! ~Karl
Looks like something out of Blade Runner or Ghost in the Shell
"We got much better accuracy than we had intended"
A pistol isn't really meant as a long range firearm after all
I just want to thank you for actually getting the rep to talk about the firing mechanism of the pistol. Every other gun channel just was like OMG its an integrally suppressed pistol OMG and not talking about the very interesting action on the gun.
I love the unintentional condescension.
"One pistol that's actually interesting"
"It's got a Walther aesthetic, but it feels like a good gun."
Ahahahahaha
yeah, I want one.
and way to go Ian for challenging him on the "like nothing else" and to the rep for a goo honest answer.
so stoked to watch ur shot show stuff
A dream come true. Thanks to everyone who made this happen.
I didn't know SilencerCo made staplers
Statusinator That was the sound file I swore Ian was playing too!
havent even watched the entire video yet but i already know its better than all the others. thank you in range for great videos and quality i hope that you rise to the top of gun channels on youtube if your not already
When you get Ian excited both at a schoolboy level and Technical level you have all the hallmarks of an interesting gun
For those Psycho-Pass fans that want a real Dominator
Man of culture, are you?
This is what I was looking for.
the future is here
That thing would incinerate my wicked self
Nah. Not flashy, and a dominator is loud by design.
I'm excited about you guys getting excited over something at shotshow!
Good to see something that really stands out at shot
Lol I been watching a lot of shot show coverage, you guys are definitely my fav.
That's just about the most futuristic pistol I've ever seen.
I was taken by surprise at just how silent that was,very impressive.
Good job guys.
Great Shot Show coverage!
I've been wondering about this pistol for a while now, thanks for the video
this gun is gonna be in soo many movies and video games. its awesome.
It's Just Milk I Swear The media one year from now: It's a ghost gun!!! Look out for the magazine-clip!!!
+dgott7726 Magic clip-azine goes on a rampage! Hide your wives and your children!
When
Looks like a gun of the future, I can see design going that way.
Usually even supressed firearms sound quite loud on video, that's freaking whisper quiet
6:14 Somewhere in Germany, Wulf-Heinz Pflaumer's head has just burst into flames, and he has no idea why.
Damn that pistol looks amazing
I am freaking in LOVE!
I wonder how compact this could be without the suppressor
Just guns like this make me think "How screwed would people be if someone went back in time with modern guns"
That is freaking cool.
That's actually a really cool design, I hope its reliable though. Can't wait for an in depth review from Ian in 50 years, when it has been forgotten.
These are going to be seen in every futuristic/scifi movie and tv show for the next 20 years....
You know it's an interesting gun when Ian is actually exited about it.
The future is here lads! Really makes you think.
you guys crack my stuff up.
That is a really nice looking gun on top of its function.
As a Home protection gun, this aces it.
and so it begins.
After seeing this I really want one.
Ian cracks me up! I feel like he already has it figured out. lol
I dont know about you guys but I got the feeling when the guy said "this is unique and not borrowed from somewhere else" at about 2:31 I instantly thought, Right Ian is going to smack that down with a brilliant reference to a forgotten weapon that he didn't know about.
i could sense it from the minute he said "its unique" aha. Ian your wealth of knowledge puts you in great stead at these events. Karl too ;)
my guess is the two rods are attached to a moving baffle. gas pressure holds the baffle forward until pressure drops off and then uses a Beretta bobcat style recoil spring design. seems cool
that is awesome!
Man, you guys are brutal.
For me it looks like the two pins above the barrel go into a mechanism that locks them against the frame during high pressure in the barrel, could be as simple as a "gas piston" on top of the barrel, working against a spring that holds the locking hooks back.
Just my idea after seeing the slide up close
oh, at the end i could see that the pins are more likely to be guides that work with the recoil springs inside the slide and that the notches simply lock into the frame to stop the slide flying of.
So the locking under pressure has to be to do with the square protusion on the left, but will work similarly.
It looks like something out of RoboCop, but it really works. Awesome!
Very cool.
Gun Jesus once again spitting the cold, hard, firearm truth
Hearing safe with +P+ is no joke.
Cool gun
Ian this is where I think the industry might do a lot more of if they pass the hearring protection act. I'm curious as to what u guys think about integrally suppressed weapons....
Darn, someone already upgraded it to this!
Salesman: like nothing else
knowledgeable people : lists all the similar things.
This pistol is awesome. It looks like the Mandalorian Blaster Pistol from The Clone Wars.
badass
Reminds me the Dominator from Psycho Pass.
I want this with a hand stop under the barrel, I hope it hits the market under a grand
Very cool. It'll be interesting to see what the action actually is.
Looks like a quiet version of Robocop 's gun which is awesome
wow that is quite! I'm very impressed. In fact that's so quite for the price they should consider military contracts.
Pretty interesting
Ayy can't wait for more SHOT Show stuff. By the way, you should see if you can't find a Jorge Pizano there. I made the presentation for his product.
I LOVE IT!)
That's cool.
Really awesome looking gun. I hope they'll sell a lot. :)
If they pass the Hearing Protection Act this year, these guys will be first to market...they will CLEAN UP!
You know it’s gotta be good, cuz later in a Q&A he says he uses this for his bedside pistol.
Now that is quite cool :)
Dam this is the beginning of the Lawgiver !
When I saw the thumbnail I thought this was going to be some sci-fi halo lookalike gun. Now I find myself wanting one REALLY badly
Anime is real now. Thanks SilencerCo.
Very nice! So once one of you guys inevitably buys one can we expect a disassembly/analysis video of that super top secret delayed blowback system?
I think I saw something about this gun maybe last year, looks familiar. That's some futuristic stuff.
Ya I remember they announced the gun at last years shot show.
Finally some exciting news out of shot show. MSRP is decent too
This with a red dot sight would be amazing! I hope a few get sent to New Zealand so I at least have a chance to get one...
A test of the original maxim silencer pre WWI on the 03 Springfield said it made the 03 much more pleasant to shoot. This pistol also looks like it would be very pleasant.
I’d even buy it without the suppressors, that operating mechanism is awesome on its own.
My theory about the delaying mechanism. On the left side of the slide there is a hook that goes into a recess on the body of the gun, right next to the chamber. There is also a recess on the receiver in which it can travel. This has to have something to do with the delaying mechanism.
Dear mother of God I need this right now!
This is straight out of the video game console with how quiet it is
I had thought an IWI X95 was going to be my next purchase... this video may change that.