For everyone wanting to know how it works, they have a patent on file so you can take a look yourself. In reality, it's an asymmetric roller delayed blowback where the slide acts as the block that the roller "hides in", and the chamber block on the frame is the "locking" recess for the roller on a typical mp5/g3 roller system. The "roller" in the Maxim is a captured lever with a pair of camming surfaces (i.e. a round bit at one end) attached to the actual breech block. In the patent, I feel like it's almost a lever delayed blowback (FAMAS) since the slide is supposed to separate from the actual breechblock a little before the breechblock begins to reciprocate, but the real thing has the breechblock pinned in place. Either way, it redistributes the rearward energy laterally into the slide and chamber just like a roller delayed system. The two rods at the top of the "slide" are the recoil springs and guide rods so the single roller delay doesn't torque the frame out of whack. As Ian points out in a reply to a comment, this is actually unique and cool. The guy wasn't full of BS, unlike most of shot show.
@@trentmorrison6074 I replied with a .link, but youtube decided it didn't like links to google patents. Go figure. Google US patent US9879934. Look at Fig 7A, callout 98,100,108.
@@Strawberry92fs a comment from Arthur C. around here explains it in detail- it's a sort of asymmetrical roller-delayed thing- and says that the patents are available to see yourself, though the final design varies from it slightly. Seems they just didn't wanna do a teardown here.
Knowing Ian he'll find this one obscure 1890's one of a kind, hand made prototype found in Western Mozambique that uses the same action as SilencerCo's pistol. Just joking (maybe) Great content as always guys, can't wait for more SHOT oddities. Have a great day :)
They're like professors but with guns. Discussing their field, they will bring you to the end of your knowledge in about 3 sentences whether or not they're trying to be demeaning. They know wayy more than a healthy individual would ever hope to know about their expertise/field.
Frank Tervoort: Well, feel free to call the police when someone is breaking into your home in the middle of the night. I'll go with the option to protect myself so the pictures the coroner takes are of the perpetrator rather than me.
Shot one of these last year at a range in Maine. Total novice shooter so I can't offer any professional opinion, but it was quite pleasant to try out. The suppressor gets very hot quite quickly, but my situation was a bit different because when I rented it, the dude goes "Ok I'm gonna give you what I call the Robocop mag to use with this" and hands me a 33 round magazine lol.
River Styx Armory I don't think those guys truly understand how critical Alex was as a host. They need to fill that void with someone professional quick. Because now it's a toss up if I even watch one of their videos. Forgotten Weapons and InRange don't have that problem from me.
Oh well Ian, one for Forgotten weapons in ten years time! I so wanted Ian to go "That delayed blow back mechanism looks like a derivative of Hungarian gun X designed by obscure Finnish designer Y in 1913"!
Thankfully I think you're way off-mark. I can't see it in order to unsee it. The halo magnum has a ridiculously oversized trigger guard, if this did, then I wouldn't be able to unsee it.
I just want to thank you for actually getting the rep to talk about the firing mechanism of the pistol. Every other gun channel just was like OMG its an integrally suppressed pistol OMG and not talking about the very interesting action on the gun.
Ian this is where I think the industry might do a lot more of if they pass the hearring protection act. I'm curious as to what u guys think about integrally suppressed weapons....
havent even watched the entire video yet but i already know its better than all the others. thank you in range for great videos and quality i hope that you rise to the top of gun channels on youtube if your not already
I dont know about you guys but I got the feeling when the guy said "this is unique and not borrowed from somewhere else" at about 2:31 I instantly thought, Right Ian is going to smack that down with a brilliant reference to a forgotten weapon that he didn't know about. i could sense it from the minute he said "its unique" aha. Ian your wealth of knowledge puts you in great stead at these events. Karl too ;)
It looks like a weird sideways lever delay. See the cut on the left side of the barrel (try 1:44 for a good view)? There's a lever that matches up with it in the slide (also visible if you look closely at the slide as he holds it around 1:34). I also see what looks like a roller but the cut doesn't look rounded so I'm casting my vote for lever delay. Definitely super interesting.
That thing is sexy as hell. But looks aside, it is almost definitely a blowback gun with pneumatic springs. The two rods you see at the top are not pistons. They are locked in place, and you can see the guy unlocking them at 1:27. Therefore, there are springs inside the slide, captive around these rods. I think that there is a good chance that the springs are pneumatic. You can set the resistance of a pneumatic spring by increasing the initial pressure, and you can make a pneumatic spring very small, because it's not about the size of the container, it's about the air molecules trapped inside it. Very ingenious.
It is definitely not pneumatic. There have been experiments with pneumatic systems in small arms (primarily submachine guns), and they never work well. This pistol is delayed blowback. ~Ian
InRangeTV Well, there's no other explanation that matches up to the dude's claims, though. Every possible locking and delaying mechanism has been explored already. I am, of course, basing my speculation entirely upon the assumption that the mechanism is indeed unique.
my guess is the two rods are attached to a moving baffle. gas pressure holds the baffle forward until pressure drops off and then uses a Beretta bobcat style recoil spring design. seems cool
Comparing it to a Welrod doesn't do it justice. What was key to the Welrod was the frugality of its design; frugality is all but nonexistent on the Maxim-9. If this pistol was designed as a bolt-action pistol then yes, it should be compared to the Welrod, but this isn't, so it makes no sense to compare it design-wise.
this looks like it uses gas from the silencer section to unlock the gun. its probably a gas trap unlock delayed blowback system. i am guessing this based on those 2 rods that connect through above the barrel. It makes perfect sense, you have a silencer built into the gun therefore you have a gas trap built in.
For me it looks like the two pins above the barrel go into a mechanism that locks them against the frame during high pressure in the barrel, could be as simple as a "gas piston" on top of the barrel, working against a spring that holds the locking hooks back. Just my idea after seeing the slide up close oh, at the end i could see that the pins are more likely to be guides that work with the recoil springs inside the slide and that the notches simply lock into the frame to stop the slide flying of. So the locking under pressure has to be to do with the square protusion on the left, but will work similarly.
PB silenced pistols 6П9 also have the recoil spring put in the back (grip), it's simple blowback though Not seeing much, but could the front of the recoil springs guide also act like a delaying piston (similar to the HK P7)
6:24 you see that little downwards angle at the end of the slide and on the lip above the grip? I can see my purlicue accidentally getting snagged in that. The thought hurts.
My theory about the delaying mechanism. On the left side of the slide there is a hook that goes into a recess on the body of the gun, right next to the chamber. There is also a recess on the receiver in which it can travel. This has to have something to do with the delaying mechanism.
In a year or two I may consider using this as my home defense, things that go bump in the night pistol. I will have to wait and see what happens with the law, the reliability, and the price.
my guess is the delayed blow back mechanism is that op rod running over the top of the barrel that might connected to a piston-like feature in the suppressor housing
A test of the original maxim silencer pre WWI on the 03 Springfield said it made the 03 much more pleasant to shoot. This pistol also looks like it would be very pleasant.
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"This gun's mechanism is unlike anything else." *Ian pops out of background* "Oh really?"
Our lord and savior Gun Jesus
For everyone wanting to know how it works, they have a patent on file so you can take a look yourself.
In reality, it's an asymmetric roller delayed blowback where the slide acts as the block that the roller "hides in", and the chamber block on the frame is the "locking" recess for the roller on a typical mp5/g3 roller system. The "roller" in the Maxim is a captured lever with a pair of camming surfaces (i.e. a round bit at one end) attached to the actual breech block. In the patent, I feel like it's almost a lever delayed blowback (FAMAS) since the slide is supposed to separate from the actual breechblock a little before the breechblock begins to reciprocate, but the real thing has the breechblock pinned in place. Either way, it redistributes the rearward energy laterally into the slide and chamber just like a roller delayed system.
The two rods at the top of the "slide" are the recoil springs and guide rods so the single roller delay doesn't torque the frame out of whack.
As Ian points out in a reply to a comment, this is actually unique and cool. The guy wasn't full of BS, unlike most of shot show.
Underappreciated comment! Thanks for the Info!
Not even i understand it? Is there a link to the patent?
@@trentmorrison6074 I replied with a .link, but youtube decided it didn't like links to google patents. Go figure. Google US patent US9879934.
Look at Fig 7A, callout 98,100,108.
The hero we need.
Thank you .
"I'm not going to go into that level of detail"............Gun Jesus raises his hand and locusts descend upon him
Like what? You won't explain the basic operating principles of your gun? Roller Dellay? Flapper Delay? rotating bolt delay?
@@Strawberry92fs a comment from Arthur C. around here explains it in detail- it's a sort of asymmetrical roller-delayed thing- and says that the patents are available to see yourself, though the final design varies from it slightly. Seems they just didn't wanna do a teardown here.
Knowing Ian he'll find this one obscure 1890's one of a kind, hand made prototype found in Western Mozambique that uses the same action as SilencerCo's pistol. Just joking (maybe) Great content as always guys, can't wait for more SHOT oddities. Have a great day :)
> Western Mozambique
I giggled.
That fires a 6.225 mm bullet
I wouldn't want Ian challenging any of my assertions.. It would be a good indication my assertions are wrong.
InvaderVin that did come to mind, as well as the Walther quip at the end by karl
Patrick O'leary Why does Karl not like Walther?
EisenKreig he likes his CCP
InvaderVin yeah, I really wouldn't want to be "interrogated" by either Ian or Karl.
They're like professors but with guns. Discussing their field, they will bring you to the end of your knowledge in about 3 sentences whether or not they're trying to be demeaning. They know wayy more than a healthy individual would ever hope to know about their expertise/field.
Looks like a sci-fi pistol. Pretty cool.
Multipass.
James King She knows it's a multipass!
Looks like the 10mm pistol from Fallout 4
the dominator from psycho pass to be specific
Frank Tervoort: Well, feel free to call the police when someone is breaking into your home in the middle of the night. I'll go with the option to protect myself so the pictures the coroner takes are of the perpetrator rather than me.
I need this in 10mm, then I need a nuclear war and a vault suit.
The downside is that, unless you only use really light loads, you would need a much bigger suppressor.
the supressor is as big as you want it to be, you could keep stacking them on eachother like lego until it was as big as a rifle
@@TonyTylerDraws, you should tell 2020 they should have bought it.
"It has a Walther aesthetic, but it feels like a good gun"
Wise guy Karl over there with the zingers
I bet after disassembly, Ian figures out what they borrowed the delayed blowback design from.
Or just search up the patent.
You know, it's pretty incredible that, on top of making an incredibly good, useful, and quiet pistol, they made it look unbelievably cool.
Hey, a SHOT show video where someone's asking the _right_ questions.
Shot one of these last year at a range in Maine. Total novice shooter so I can't offer any professional opinion, but it was quite pleasant to try out. The suppressor gets very hot quite quickly, but my situation was a bit different because when I rented it, the dude goes "Ok I'm gonna give you what I call the Robocop mag to use with this" and hands me a 33 round magazine lol.
You guys are the only Shot show coverage I watch.
Yeah you get spammed by all these other gun channels making too much videos about boring shit.
Fergesslich Cough TFBTV Cough
Cough cough :^)
EisenKreig Patric seemed completely uninterested by the Maxim, and I learned more in 2 minutes from Ian's questions than Patric's whole video.
River Styx Armory I don't think those guys truly understand how critical Alex was as a host. They need to fill that void with someone professional quick. Because now it's a toss up if I even watch one of their videos. Forgotten Weapons and InRange don't have that problem from me.
Oh well Ian, one for Forgotten weapons in ten years time!
I so wanted Ian to go "That delayed blow back mechanism looks like a derivative of Hungarian gun X designed by obscure Finnish designer Y in 1913"!
"Enforcement mode: Lethal Eliminator. Please aim carefully and eliminate the target."
Thank you for using a lav mic! There has been terrible audio on other channels. You the guys rule!
+Jared Walsh We just got it in time for the show. So far it has been great! ~Karl
prepare to see this in every sci-fi movie for the next decade lol
It's the Halo Magnum. You'll never unsee it now
No its the Halo Magnum SOCOM from odst but in 9mm :)
Thankfully I think you're way off-mark. I can't see it in order to unsee it. The halo magnum has a ridiculously oversized trigger guard, if this did, then I wouldn't be able to unsee it.
I personally think it looks like aborderlands repeater kinda from bl1
I saw the magsec 4 from perfect dark
Looks more like robocop's gun to me.
I just want to thank you for actually getting the rep to talk about the firing mechanism of the pistol. Every other gun channel just was like OMG its an integrally suppressed pistol OMG and not talking about the very interesting action on the gun.
Ian: “so do you consider the delaying mechanism to be proprietary?” Guy: “yes” Ian internally: *we’ll see about that*
"We got much better accuracy than we had intended"
A pistol isn't really meant as a long range firearm after all
Perfect dark, Magsec-9. God I feel old
-4*
Looks like something out of Blade Runner or Ghost in the Shell
"The tyranny of the right-handed oppressor strikes again!"
I love the unintentional condescension.
"One pistol that's actually interesting"
"It's got a Walther aesthetic, but it feels like a good gun."
Ahahahahaha
When you get Ian excited both at a schoolboy level and Technical level you have all the hallmarks of an interesting gun
I didn't know SilencerCo made staplers
Statusinator That was the sound file I swore Ian was playing too!
yeah, I want one.
and way to go Ian for challenging him on the "like nothing else" and to the rep for a goo honest answer.
Usually even supressed firearms sound quite loud on video, that's freaking whisper quiet
A dream come true. Thanks to everyone who made this happen.
Ian this is where I think the industry might do a lot more of if they pass the hearring protection act. I'm curious as to what u guys think about integrally suppressed weapons....
For those Psycho-Pass fans that want a real Dominator
Man of culture, are you?
This is what I was looking for.
That thing would incinerate my wicked self
Nah. Not flashy, and a dominator is loud by design.
_what colour?_
Good to see something that really stands out at shot
havent even watched the entire video yet but i already know its better than all the others. thank you in range for great videos and quality i hope that you rise to the top of gun channels on youtube if your not already
That's just about the most futuristic pistol I've ever seen.
I'm excited about you guys getting excited over something at shotshow!
I dont know about you guys but I got the feeling when the guy said "this is unique and not borrowed from somewhere else" at about 2:31 I instantly thought, Right Ian is going to smack that down with a brilliant reference to a forgotten weapon that he didn't know about.
i could sense it from the minute he said "its unique" aha. Ian your wealth of knowledge puts you in great stead at these events. Karl too ;)
I was taken by surprise at just how silent that was,very impressive.
Good job guys.
It looks like a weird sideways lever delay. See the cut on the left side of the barrel (try 1:44 for a good view)? There's a lever that matches up with it in the slide (also visible if you look closely at the slide as he holds it around 1:34). I also see what looks like a roller but the cut doesn't look rounded so I'm casting my vote for lever delay. Definitely super interesting.
But does it take Glawk mags?
Yes, it does. Ha!
InRangeTV But does it take Glockazines???
In half a second?
Does it blast the neighborhood into another dimension when it malfunctions?
guys, of course it does. this is clearly just one of those compact "ghost guns"
Salesman: like nothing else
knowledgeable people : lists all the similar things.
Looks like a gun of the future, I can see design going that way.
6:14 Somewhere in Germany, Wulf-Heinz Pflaumer's head has just burst into flames, and he has no idea why.
Just guns like this make me think "How screwed would people be if someone went back in time with modern guns"
Ian cracks me up! I feel like he already has it figured out. lol
That thing is sexy as hell. But looks aside, it is almost definitely a blowback gun with pneumatic springs. The two rods you see at the top are not pistons. They are locked in place, and you can see the guy unlocking them at 1:27. Therefore, there are springs inside the slide, captive around these rods. I think that there is a good chance that the springs are pneumatic. You can set the resistance of a pneumatic spring by increasing the initial pressure, and you can make a pneumatic spring very small, because it's not about the size of the container, it's about the air molecules trapped inside it. Very ingenious.
It is definitely not pneumatic. There have been experiments with pneumatic systems in small arms (primarily submachine guns), and they never work well. This pistol is delayed blowback. ~Ian
InRangeTV Well, there's no other explanation that matches up to the dude's claims, though. Every possible locking and delaying mechanism has been explored already. I am, of course, basing my speculation entirely upon the assumption that the mechanism is indeed unique.
my guess is the two rods are attached to a moving baffle. gas pressure holds the baffle forward until pressure drops off and then uses a Beretta bobcat style recoil spring design. seems cool
These are going to be seen in every futuristic/scifi movie and tv show for the next 20 years....
so stoked to watch ur shot show stuff
That's actually a really cool design, I hope its reliable though. Can't wait for an in depth review from Ian in 50 years, when it has been forgotten.
So it's like a modern welrod that looks more like a normal handgun and less like a pipe. Also a bit louder.
It's also semi auto. ~Ian
Comparing it to a Welrod doesn't do it justice. What was key to the Welrod was the frugality of its design; frugality is all but nonexistent on the Maxim-9. If this pistol was designed as a bolt-action pistol then yes, it should be compared to the Welrod, but this isn't, so it makes no sense to compare it design-wise.
honestly nothing like a welrod in any way
this looks like it uses gas from the silencer section to unlock the gun. its probably a gas trap unlock delayed blowback system. i am guessing this based on those 2 rods that connect through above the barrel. It makes perfect sense, you have a silencer built into the gun therefore you have a gas trap built in.
You know it's an interesting gun when Ian is actually exited about it.
For me it looks like the two pins above the barrel go into a mechanism that locks them against the frame during high pressure in the barrel, could be as simple as a "gas piston" on top of the barrel, working against a spring that holds the locking hooks back.
Just my idea after seeing the slide up close
oh, at the end i could see that the pins are more likely to be guides that work with the recoil springs inside the slide and that the notches simply lock into the frame to stop the slide flying of.
So the locking under pressure has to be to do with the square protusion on the left, but will work similarly.
I wonder how compact this could be without the suppressor
"Not gonna go to that level of detail with you..." Dear Mr, do you know to whom are you speaking there? :D
Looks like a quiet version of Robocop 's gun which is awesome
Great Shot Show coverage!
As a Home protection gun, this aces it.
This pistol is awesome. It looks like the Mandalorian Blaster Pistol from The Clone Wars.
PB silenced pistols 6П9 also have the recoil spring put in the back (grip), it's simple blowback though
Not seeing much, but could the front of the recoil springs guide also act like a delaying piston (similar to the HK P7)
Lol I been watching a lot of shot show coverage, you guys are definitely my fav.
Very nice! So once one of you guys inevitably buys one can we expect a disassembly/analysis video of that super top secret delayed blowback system?
Hearing safe with +P+ is no joke.
6:24 you see that little downwards angle at the end of the slide and on the lip above the grip? I can see my purlicue accidentally getting snagged in that. The thought hurts.
Darn, someone already upgraded it to this!
So this is the other gun they were excited about when they were interviewing the Hudson H9 designers.
Yep. The Maxim-9 looks to be awesome. We would have loved to deep dive into it with them as well but they weren't very interested in doing so. ~Karl
InRangeTV by the way that was an awesome interview with H9 couple. I listended to both while making dinner.
Gun Jesus once again spitting the cold, hard, firearm truth
The future is here lads! Really makes you think.
Damn that pistol looks amazing
any news at on the deserttech mdr at shot show or is it completely vaporware by now?
The show floor has not opened yet; we have only been to range day - and DeserTech was not there. ~Ian
I've been wondering about this pistol for a while now, thanks for the video
My theory about the delaying mechanism. On the left side of the slide there is a hook that goes into a recess on the body of the gun, right next to the chamber. There is also a recess on the receiver in which it can travel. This has to have something to do with the delaying mechanism.
I think I saw something about this gun maybe last year, looks familiar. That's some futuristic stuff.
Ya I remember they announced the gun at last years shot show.
It looks like something out of RoboCop, but it really works. Awesome!
That is a really nice looking gun on top of its function.
This reminds me of the Chinese Type 64 and 67 pistols. They're simple blow back. I'm really curious about the delayed blow back.😎
In a year or two I may consider using this as my home defense, things that go bump in the night pistol. I will have to wait and see what happens with the law, the reliability, and the price.
I'm dying to know what you were able to discern about the mechanism by looking at it and what sort of history is behind it.
Can't wait for the Mud Test on this one!!!
2:01 is that the roller block mechanism or just a generic firing pin block lift?
I want this with a hand stop under the barrel, I hope it hits the market under a grand
If they pass the Hearing Protection Act this year, these guys will be first to market...they will CLEAN UP!
Dam this is the beginning of the Lawgiver !
This is straight out of the video game console with how quiet it is
Anime is real now. Thanks SilencerCo.
you guys crack my stuff up.
We took an Arcade Light Gun and thought, can we make it into a real gun boy?
wow that is quite! I'm very impressed. In fact that's so quite for the price they should consider military contracts.
After seeing this I really want one.
1:23 Field reporter Ian asking the tough questions viewers want to know. More details @11
Moral of the video is if you challenge gun Jesus he's gonna call you on it.
my guess is the delayed blow back mechanism is that op rod running over the top of the barrel that might connected to a piston-like feature in the suppressor housing
A test of the original maxim silencer pre WWI on the 03 Springfield said it made the 03 much more pleasant to shoot. This pistol also looks like it would be very pleasant.
and so it begins.
Videogames are gonna have a fucking field day with this thing.
"Tyranny of the right handed oppressor strikes again! " AMEN! Preach it Gun Jesus!
Finally some exciting news out of shot show. MSRP is decent too
"Tyranny of the right handed oppressor strikes again" lol