As the previous person has asked. A list would be great for people wanting to Price out a build. It would also be great knowing that the list of parts will work since it came from an expert rotary builder. Thanks for the info! I'll be subscribing.
@@grimspyder0001yeah I’m the troll. I know more about these engines than you will ever know…. I actually build and race these motors. This hybrid has been put together over over 3 years and still isn’t going. Good luck with your dreams
Downdraft is what I am doing but the rx8 ida manifold is no longer made and racing beat no longer sells the adapter. Jdlmfg makes them but takes a long time to get it and out of stock constantly. (I have everything for the down draft setup took months to get it all tho)
it was already done multiple times; they never equalled let alone exceeded the best blueprinted OE Renesis engines, id addition to lacking the powerband width that Mazda designed into the multi-stage intake. That’s the key to the entire Renesis engine design and performance.
Do research on your own lmao, Kyle has a life. Pretty All the info is already on the internet via rx8 forums and comment sections of the many hybrid videos Kyle has made.
The only thing I don't like about this setup is that having 5 exhaust holes makes running a twin-scroll single or strictly parallel twin-turbo setup much harder. So maybe the center housing I'd also have as REW or otherwise plug the side exhaust there to make that viable.
Is there a reason we’re not really seeing these in RX’s? What are the complications stopping people from doing this to their standard renesis setups? I guess, is there some sort of lack of support or complexity I’m not understanding?
This is also what I keep coming back to. If this is such a “hot rod” setup… why aren’t RX-7 owners doing it? Why wouldn’t everyone want to go with this setup. Kind of like people realized the LS and K20/K24 engines are the ticket to easy power, this setup should have taken off likewise.
@@VictorMPRthe problem with this setup is that there is not enough back pressure for NA builds turbo yeah but the problem is it wouldn’t have great torque
@@thatcornfedrx8guy372 I think you are confused. The lack of back pressure should be a great benefit for N/A. Turbos have some inherent back pressure because there is obviously something in the way of the exhaust gases simply exiting the cylinders.
If thats true, then I wonder if you could get a tune set up via versatune? I assume it would need one, but at the same time since the difference is exhaust, maybe its not necessary🤔🤔
again, I’m challenging you directly; what is it going to cost to put this on a dyno in NA form and put an end to theory and talk to instead have actual results? I’m only asking you to live up to your own words and claim from Dec. 2022? I’ll at least credit you for backtracking in this video against my previous claims about the components and performance reality that can’t be ignored when moving a Renesis engine from the original no-overlap port timing design into now dumping all the port overlap timing into it that this modification creates. Kudo’s for that. Because a turbo will make up for a multitude of errors that can’t be easily overcome in NA form. .
From what I have seen recently, this motor would make less hp than the original with rx8 housings. GSLE housings on a normally aspirated rx8 engine just don't work. Would love you to present so dyno figures that show otherwise.
@camd7011 go check out the other videos. We have a dyno chart posted. Won a series with the build, moto Iq feature on the car and motor. We also know of a few others running and working fine. 💪 not sure why the internet says otherwise. Show me a dyno of one failing. Lol. Build whatever you want live the dream.
Thanks for the reply mate :) I've been unable to find a video of the hybrid naturally aspirated on a dyno, or any talk of dyno figures. I can see you have lots talking about turbo hybrid and the mazdatrix numbers, but nothing naturally aspirated. What numbers did you make naturally aspirated? Can you share a link to the discussion? Thanks.
In this configuration, why not just block off the REnesis side exhaust ports and just use the two Exhaust PPorts so you don't have to make a custome exhaust manifold. The REnesis exhaust ports sucked anyways.
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Its almost like you predicted Mazda doubling the price for a REW. Great stuff man. Looking forward to how this pans out.
This is my dream rebuild for my 8
As the previous person has asked. A list would be great for people wanting to Price out a build. It would also be great knowing that the list of parts will work since it came from an expert rotary builder.
Thanks for the info!
I'll be subscribing.
Don’t be lazy, google rx8 rebuild kits. Theres info all over the internet
@TheSKDKNG it's not lazy wanting Kyle's input on this....why are you here,just go to other internet resources
@@TheSKDKNG Troll 🧌 😂, Dumb one at that.
@@grimspyder0001yeah I’m the troll. I know more about these engines than you will ever know…. I actually build and race these motors. This hybrid has been put together over over 3 years and still isn’t going. Good luck with your dreams
@@TheSKDKNG Troll 🧌😂
The more rotors on the road is a good thing .
I love these informational videos!
Thanks for answering my question from last vid much appreciated
Downdraft is what I am doing but the rx8 ida manifold is no longer made and racing beat no longer sells the adapter. Jdlmfg makes them but takes a long time to get it and out of stock constantly. (I have everything for the down draft setup took months to get it all tho)
it was already done multiple times; they never equalled let alone exceeded the best blueprinted OE Renesis engines, id addition to lacking the powerband width that Mazda designed into the multi-stage intake. That’s the key to the entire Renesis engine design and performance.
It might not perform as good but I'm ok with a power drop with how much better the ida setup looks
It might not perform as good but I'm ok with a power drop with how much better the ida setup looks
For Hotrod builds im curious about putting a weber ida carburetor on this setup, simple and fun 😅🎉
Not me doing my happy dance😂🎉
I'm thinking about doing this....can you give a list of parts needed to buy, for this hybrid
Do research on your own lmao, Kyle has a life. Pretty All the info is already on the internet via rx8 forums and comment sections of the many hybrid videos Kyle has made.
@Vipurs please don't comment if you have nothing good to say...let Kyle decide if he wants to put a list up
@@Vipursthe forums are a shit show and not worth looking at
Hybrids have been built for 20 years now. You only need glse housing and new apex seals. List done
Lmao ^^^this idk why people are so confused about hybrids. It’s a combo of factory parts.
The only thing I don't like about this setup is that having 5 exhaust holes makes running a twin-scroll single or strictly parallel twin-turbo setup much harder. So maybe the center housing I'd also have as REW or otherwise plug the side exhaust there to make that viable.
Any plans on semi p-porting this hybrid to see NA benefits?
Hoping this build is going into an 8
How would this be with a turbo? I always wanted to try a turbo and the wast gate on the rx8 end plates and the turbo hooked up to the gsl-se housings.
When are we going to see thing running with a turbo on it?
Would this run good on a IDA set up?
Is there a reason we’re not really seeing these in RX’s? What are the complications stopping people from doing this to their standard renesis setups? I guess, is there some sort of lack of support or complexity I’m not understanding?
This is also what I keep coming back to. If this is such a “hot rod” setup… why aren’t RX-7 owners doing it? Why wouldn’t everyone want to go with this setup. Kind of like people realized the LS and K20/K24 engines are the ticket to easy power, this setup should have taken off likewise.
@@VictorMPRthe problem with this setup is that there is not enough back pressure for NA builds turbo yeah but the problem is it wouldn’t have great torque
@@thatcornfedrx8guy372 I think you are confused. The lack of back pressure should be a great benefit for N/A. Turbos have some inherent back pressure because there is obviously something in the way of the exhaust gases simply exiting the cylinders.
Where are you going to get a exhaust manifold?
Kyle was selling the flange to make a custom manifold… not sure if he still does. So yes, it would need to be custom made.
With standard intake can you run the factory ecu
If thats true, then I wonder if you could get a tune set up via versatune? I assume it would need one, but at the same time since the difference is exhaust, maybe its not necessary🤔🤔
again, I’m challenging you directly; what is it going to cost to put this on a dyno in NA form and put an end to theory and talk to instead have actual results? I’m only asking you to live up to your own words and claim from Dec. 2022?
I’ll at least credit you for backtracking in this video against my previous claims about the components and performance reality that can’t be ignored when moving a Renesis engine from the original no-overlap port timing design into now dumping all the port overlap timing into it that this modification creates. Kudo’s for that.
Because a turbo will make up for a multitude of errors that can’t be easily overcome in NA form.
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From what I have seen recently, this motor would make less hp than the original with rx8 housings. GSLE housings on a normally aspirated rx8 engine just don't work. Would love you to present so dyno figures that show otherwise.
@camd7011 go check out the other videos. We have a dyno chart posted. Won a series with the build, moto Iq feature on the car and motor. We also know of a few others running and working fine. 💪 not sure why the internet says otherwise. Show me a dyno of one failing. Lol. Build whatever you want live the dream.
Thanks for the reply mate :) I've been unable to find a video of the hybrid naturally aspirated on a dyno, or any talk of dyno figures. I can see you have lots talking about turbo hybrid and the mazdatrix numbers, but nothing naturally aspirated. What numbers did you make naturally aspirated? Can you share a link to the discussion? Thanks.
@@KyleMohanRacing Show us one in general.
In this configuration, why not just block off the REnesis side exhaust ports and just use the two Exhaust PPorts so you don't have to make a custome exhaust manifold. The REnesis exhaust ports sucked anyways.