I was shocked when I saw my friend hitting slope style 15ft gap jumps and huge drops on one of these. Super impressed. He also out climbed my enduro bike lol
If you were super impressed by that you should take a look at what a long travel slack hardtail is capable of. ...... and you wont pay as much and still get decent componentry.
For downhill gnar I love my Bronson. Not much worse up, just gear down and sit and spin. But the extra squish when you’re hitting big rocks at speed is nice.
love your work man !! cant wait to ride this i'm trying to make up my mind between the 5010 or new transition scout.... serious first world problems;) 5:35-hilarious!! so close
It's tough but thinking the 5010? perfect for some urban assault on the way to the trails;) the scout may be to close to my bronson? would love ride them both back to back
Awesome and helpful review. I might be getting my hands on one this month - I thought about wrapping it to protect it from the start and hearing you say that might be a good idea got me excited. Have you or anyone on here done that to a bike? I’m in the Seattle area. Thanks for a great video.
I'm trying to decide whether to get the new 5010 (I currently have a 2016 5010) OR a 2019 Bronson. I rode the 2019 Bronson today, I didnt really notice any climbing disadvantage to the 2016 5010, I did like the suspension, i could tell it would be great on 3+ ft drops but for average trial riding small bumps its not much difference. I didnt think it turned as well as my 5010, and my 5010 was certainly more snappier. I will be demoing a new 2021 5010, I wonder if it will win my heart over the Bronson and/or my current 5010 . Has anyone compared these 2 bikes (new 5010 and 2019 Bronson???)
J I just bought the Nomad N4 2020 , now I’m thinking I should have waited for the new 5010 , 😕 can it handle bike parks ? What’s your thoughts dude ? Great review 🤘🏿🤘🏿🤘🏿🤘🏿
Dude that looked like so much fun. You were spent at the end of that down!! Lol. That’s how it should be on that bike- outta breath from all the fun on the way down. Sometimes when I’m at a DH park my wife will call me and I’ll pick up or call her back when I get to the bottom and she’s like “why are you out of breath I thought it was all downhill.” Lmao. Yeeeeaaahhh, obviously she’s not a mtber.
MTB Savant I struggle with owning a bike like this. It’s super fun to ride and mess around on, but it’s slower than every bike I currently own. I usually equate speed and fun together. That’s why I haven’t whipped out the CC and purchased it yet. Maybe it’s time to get a bike that just puts a smile on my face. I mean it is the main reason why I started riding - to have fun!
Thanks for the video JC - Been waiting on this one. Would like to know how the bike handles the rough stuff compared to other 120 - 140mm travel bikes? Im considering moving to this from a V2 Bronson that is 150mm so im wondering how much (if any) capability for downhill rough trails I might loose.
Hey Rob. The new lower link VPP gives the bike a feeling of plushness that is not usually found on a 130 bike. I would say the limiting factor on this S build is the fox 34, if you spec it with a Pike or even w/ a 36 this thing would rip thru some tech. Comparing this to the V2 Bronson - it definitely climbs better due to having less travel and a steeper STA, but the Bronson does have that extra travel to get you out of trouble if things get out of hand. Hope this helps.
@@jctrails really helpful JC thanks so much. Do you think the added reach and wheelbase in comparison to the V2 Bronson helps make up for less travel on the steeper /rough stuff? I'm going to demo and I'm hoping it helps to compensate. Thanks again for the reply and for the review
Rob Gray the modern geo does give the 5010 a more capable feel, to a limit. Once the speed picks up the suspension can get overwhelmed in rougher sections so you may have to tap on the brakes or be more selective on your line choice.
@@jctrails Thanks JC - Looking at the geo difference in large (Bronson V2 vs 5010 V4), the 5010 is 30mm longer reach, 35mm longer wheel base. Just 0.3 steeper head tube, 3mm shorter chainstay, 3 degree steeper seat tube. So when paired with wide bars I think it might end up more composed at speed downhill - Might just have to pick some lines in the rough because of 20mm less travel. Anyway, hopefully will be demoing one in the next few weeks. Thanks again!
@@bdigital101 what did you go for in the end? I'm trying to decide between the 2022 5010 and bronson, I had the 2016 bronson but its bee destroyed in a fire and I'm not sure on the mixed wheel version as I'm 5"4 qnd never rudden a 29er
Good to know it comes with the 10-52 , so you prefer the Pike over FOX? I have a 2019 RM Instinct BC edition and either thinking of a 2021 or upgrade my drivetrain to possibly AXS, i bought my bike as a leftover and got an AMAZING price, it was a good replacement for my 2018 Spectral AL-- Weight is 30.2 with Mavic XA carbon wheels and Race Face carbon bars weight, Stamp 11 pedals and bottle cage
@@brandoncollins3334 your stumpy will feel a touch more capable due the longer travel suspension. The 5010 does have more modern geo though that helps with steeper descents. The 5010 pedals better and has more of playful character. I would prefer to have the 5010 with a Pike fork.
The SB140 is more comparable to the bronson rather than the 5010. The SB140 is a lot longer than the 5010 and is more gravity oriented. I heard it feels bigger than the bronson even with the 10mm less in the rear.
@@mitchthewhite definitely haven't ridden either the 5010 or Bronson, but the SB140 is fun and poppy. Definitely seeing the gravity side, as it's easy to jump and catch some air. That SI suspension is nice, great climber.
@@jctrails Agree, their frames are a little heavier now a days. Let me ask you, is the wife angry with you? Your answer will tell me you have it in your stable now. Ha, ha...
i’m currently trying to choose between the bronson and the 5010 to replace my hightower lt (i’m 5’1” and want to switch to 27.5). which is your preference ? i currently live in southern utah so there’s a large variety of trails out here, plus resorts. i’ve only been riding for 2 years but i really want to improve on my riding. will the 150/160 on the bronson be too much ? thanks !
Sup dog, personally for you I would choose the 5010 because personally I find it better to be under biked than over biked even for big days at downhill parks.
I'll say this - I rode brianhead on a 150mm front and back bike and had zero problem on any of the big hits on the jump line, and on the double blacks I survived, but was beat the hell up with so much arm pump when I got done. For the trails in st george it's more than enough. Handled the big jumps and rock drop on the Barrels trail without a sweat.
JC TRAILS I’ve been mainly on my 29ers’ and use 2.4 to 2.6” tires but recently rode my 27.5 with 2.8” tires and it’s amazing how great they react on my loose and rocky So Cal trails. I don’t see myself going less than 2.6” tires ever again. Like you said,I’m not trying to KOM and just wanna have fun on my trails.
It’s been a while since you tested the 2019. How does the suspension redesign compare? Does it make much of a difference. I have the 2019 wondering if it’s worth an upgrade or not?
Sparks 701 all the new lower link VPP bikes have a more bottomless feel than their predecessors. The 19 felt lighter on it’s feet, but not as capable. If your looking for a longer and more capable bike then I would upgrade. The 19 is still an awesome bike.
Sweet video as always!! Just wondering, are you still using the evo ss with the hero 7 black when you use the gimbal? Wanting to upgrade to the hero 7 black but worried if I use it with my current evo ss the audio is going to be bad! Your audio sounds really great in this vid, no gimbal motor noise
Why do american's say "Shram"? I notice this in a lot in videos. Is it just because people got used to saying Shimano that they think Sram is pronounced Shram?
im 5'10 so stuck on getting a medium or large, my current stumpy is a large with a 455mm reach and feels a tad bit too big. The 5010 medium is 450mm reach so you think medium?
Hey John I like my bikes to feel a little bit big so the large 5010 actually felt perfect to me. Does the large Stumpy feel too big to you when pedaling?
@@jctrails yeah it definitely feels a tad bit to big, I am on the lighter side so its a lot harder to throw around in the air, i think im gonna get a medium. What do you think?
*My 65 yr old dad bought this and he assembled it by himself. He absolutely loves **Latest.Bike** . He did however order a bigger seat.*
Good review. The trail you were riding looked pretty spot on for a bike like the 5010 to truly shine.
I was shocked when I saw my friend hitting slope style 15ft gap jumps and huge drops on one of these. Super impressed. He also out climbed my enduro bike lol
Adriel Jose the bike will only help you oh so far. It’s all about the rider
If you were super impressed by that you should take a look at what a long travel slack hardtail is capable of. ...... and you wont pay as much and still get decent componentry.
Just picked up the new 5010 raspberry. Definitely spot on regarding the matte finish. Not the easiest to keep clean! Great review!!
As a road cyclist, watching you fly down that narrow dirt and rock path between all those trees makes me realize how skilled you and mtbers are!
And the community of mtbers is great. Awesome people
Come join us
I'd love to have one for dirt jump / flow trail days. Seems like it'd be a blast for that. Nice review!
For sure! The 5010 wants to be in the air!
User review is awesome - far more informative than the standard Pinkbike stuff
You've got to try out and give us a review of the new Transitions!
This vs capability of tallboy 2020?
It depends what you want to do with the bike, but the Tallboy is probably better for most.
I’m all about those long travel 29 speed machines, but that looks like a fun bike!
Adam Davis it is! Super fun to hit the jumps with it.
Thank you! Best review out there!
Nice review man. Looks like a super fun bike
Thinking about the 5010 or the Ripley. In NJ we do a lot of rocky fire road accents followed by some super rocky tech downhills..
For downhill gnar I love my Bronson. Not much worse up, just gear down and sit and spin. But the extra squish when you’re hitting big rocks at speed is nice.
love your work man !! cant wait to ride this i'm trying to make up my mind between the 5010 or new transition scout.... serious first world problems;) 5:35-hilarious!! so close
rangi 007 that scout looks super fun too. I bet they have pretty similar riding characteristics.
I’m debating between the two also. Let us know what you’ve decided on
It's tough but thinking the 5010? perfect for some urban assault on the way to the trails;) the scout may be to close to my bronson? would love ride them both back to back
Love your videos! Feels like I'm riding with you and I'm just in my office screaming Whoooo Yeaaaaaa!
Christina Phongsavath 🤘I’m glad you are enjoying the vids!
Awesome review, thanks for sharing 🤙
Awesome and helpful review. I might be getting my hands on one this month - I thought about wrapping it to protect it from the start and hearing you say that might be a good idea got me excited. Have you or anyone on here done that to a bike? I’m in the Seattle area. Thanks for a great video.
I'm trying to decide whether to get the new 5010 (I currently have a 2016 5010) OR a 2019 Bronson. I rode the 2019 Bronson today, I didnt really notice any climbing disadvantage to the 2016 5010, I did like the suspension, i could tell it would be great on 3+ ft drops but for average trial riding small bumps its not much difference. I didnt think it turned as well as my 5010, and my 5010 was certainly more snappier. I will be demoing a new 2021 5010, I wonder if it will win my heart over the Bronson and/or my current 5010 . Has anyone compared these 2 bikes (new 5010 and 2019 Bronson???)
Hi, did you come up with a decision? If so which one? I just got my Bronson stolen and I can't decide between Bronson, Hightower and 5010
How does it climb in comparison to a Tall boy?
Which model you think would be a better climber than this 5010?
I was wondering the same. Unless you're just saying that any 29er is faster, which isn't a model thing, but a wheel size thing.
What size are the post mounts on the fork and rear triangle?
J I just bought the Nomad N4 2020 , now I’m thinking I should have waited for the new 5010 , 😕 can it handle bike parks ? What’s your thoughts dude ? Great review 🤘🏿🤘🏿🤘🏿🤘🏿
Dude that looked like so much fun. You were spent at the end of that down!! Lol. That’s how it should be on that bike- outta breath from all the fun on the way down. Sometimes when I’m at a DH park my wife will call me and I’ll pick up or call her back when I get to the bottom and she’s like “why are you out of breath I thought it was all downhill.” Lmao. Yeeeeaaahhh, obviously she’s not a mtber.
DADventureTV it’s a little more work to go fast on the 5010, but no effort to have fun on it!
How about bronson?
Do u think 150mm fork travel will take away the pop and playfulness of the bike?
It won’t take away from the poppiness. But it will make the steering a little slower.
@@jctrails make sense! 👍🏽
why you riding on Large frame if you just 5'10?
That bikes looks fun. A lot like this edit
MTB Savant I struggle with owning a bike like this. It’s super fun to ride and mess around on, but it’s slower than every bike I currently own. I usually equate speed and fun together. That’s why I haven’t whipped out the CC and purchased it yet. Maybe it’s time to get a bike that just puts a smile on my face. I mean it is the main reason why I started riding - to have fun!
Nice review~ my thoughts on the are the same on the Gloss finish being much nicer to keep clean 🧼 🤘🏼
Thanks brotha! I love the matte finishes but one ride thru mud and it never looks the same.
JC TRAILS Yeaa they are cool to look at 👀 while they are clean..
JC TRAILS hei mate, I’ve never had a matte finish - what’s the problem with mud?
Thanks for the video JC - Been waiting on this one. Would like to know how the bike handles the rough stuff compared to other 120 - 140mm travel bikes? Im considering moving to this from a V2 Bronson that is 150mm so im wondering how much (if any) capability for downhill rough trails I might loose.
Hey Rob. The new lower link VPP gives the bike a feeling of plushness that is not usually found on a 130 bike. I would say the limiting factor on this S build is the fox 34, if you spec it with a Pike or even w/ a 36 this thing would rip thru some tech. Comparing this to the V2 Bronson - it definitely climbs better due to having less travel and a steeper STA, but the Bronson does have that extra travel to get you out of trouble if things get out of hand. Hope this helps.
@@jctrails really helpful JC thanks so much. Do you think the added reach and wheelbase in comparison to the V2 Bronson helps make up for less travel on the steeper /rough stuff? I'm going to demo and I'm hoping it helps to compensate. Thanks again for the reply and for the review
Rob Gray the modern geo does give the 5010 a more capable feel, to a limit. Once the speed picks up the suspension can get overwhelmed in rougher sections so you may have to tap on the brakes or be more selective on your line choice.
@@jctrails Thanks JC - Looking at the geo difference in large (Bronson V2 vs 5010 V4), the 5010 is 30mm longer reach, 35mm longer wheel base. Just 0.3 steeper head tube, 3mm shorter chainstay, 3 degree steeper seat tube. So when paired with wide bars I think it might end up more composed at speed downhill - Might just have to pick some lines in the rough because of 20mm less travel. Anyway, hopefully will be demoing one in the next few weeks. Thanks again!
@@bdigital101 what did you go for in the end? I'm trying to decide between the 2022 5010 and bronson, I had the 2016 bronson but its bee destroyed in a fire and I'm not sure on the mixed wheel version as I'm 5"4 qnd never rudden a 29er
nice review, that trail looks familiar
where was the test ride done?
Andrew Locke pine hills
What was the DH trail?
@@jctrails Thanks JC, i'll have to hit that place up at some time, about an hour from where I live.
Good to know it comes with the 10-52 , so you prefer the Pike over FOX? I have a 2019 RM Instinct BC edition and either thinking of a 2021 or upgrade my drivetrain to possibly AXS, i bought my bike as a leftover and got an AMAZING price, it was a good replacement for my 2018 Spectral AL-- Weight is 30.2 with Mavic XA carbon wheels and Race Face carbon bars weight, Stamp 11 pedals and bottle cage
I know this is an old review but 5010 vs stumpjumper?
The regular stumpy or Evo?
@@jctrails the regular stumpy. My everyday is 2019 stumpy with fox factory 36 and FF dpx2 27.5 bike. Been looking at the new 5010.
@@brandoncollins3334 your stumpy will feel a touch more capable due the longer travel suspension. The 5010 does have more modern geo though that helps with steeper descents. The 5010 pedals better and has more of playful character. I would prefer to have the 5010 with a Pike fork.
@@jctrails perfect thanks for the response. Love the channel been follower for couple years.
@@brandoncollins3334 thanks for watching 🤟
Very nice review.. How about some stats on the truck?
Great review 👍, curious how it compares to a Yeti SB140. In the market for a fun bike, definitely playful and poppy is the focus.
The SB140 is more comparable to the bronson rather than the 5010. The SB140 is a lot longer than the 5010 and is more gravity oriented. I heard it feels bigger than the bronson even with the 10mm less in the rear.
@@mitchthewhite definitely haven't ridden either the 5010 or Bronson, but the SB140 is fun and poppy. Definitely seeing the gravity side, as it's easy to jump and catch some air. That SI suspension is nice, great climber.
Is it a better climber than the tallboy?
Fun review! You were cooking on that DH section. Did you buy this or just renting it?
Just a demo. The old lady would kill me if I purchased another bike 🔪.
@@jctrails sell the spesh!
I was just going to ask this Rob...
@@jctrails Ha ha, she knows how you are...
Peter T. Phan let’s make a deal 🤝
From where you get it plz tell me I also want to buy
bikebarnracing.com
damn bruh, what a trail! looks fun. 🤙🏿
Looks super nice aesthetically, it weighs more than my Ripmo v2, I was surprised.
Travel the Narrow Trail SC frames are super beefy and the spec is a little heavy, but the 5010 does feel light on the trail.
@@jctrails Agree, their frames are a little heavier now a days. Let me ask you, is the wife angry with you? Your answer will tell me you have it in your stable now. Ha, ha...
Trying to save up for one of these.
i’m currently trying to choose between the bronson and the 5010 to replace my hightower lt (i’m 5’1” and want to switch to 27.5). which is your preference ? i currently live in southern utah so there’s a large variety of trails out here, plus resorts. i’ve only been riding for 2 years but i really want to improve on my riding. will the 150/160 on the bronson be too much ? thanks !
Sup dog, personally for you I would choose the 5010 because personally I find it better to be under biked than over biked even for big days at downhill parks.
I'll say this - I rode brianhead on a 150mm front and back bike and had zero problem on any of the big hits on the jump line, and on the double blacks I survived, but was beat the hell up with so much arm pump when I got done. For the trails in st george it's more than enough. Handled the big jumps and rock drop on the Barrels trail without a sweat.
That trai looked like soo much fun
Thanks for the review. One question, will it clear 27.5 x 2.8” tires on i40 rims or perhaps SC i36mm rims?
I’m not sure, but I think that would be a tight fit.
JC TRAILS I’ve been mainly on my 29ers’ and use 2.4 to 2.6” tires but recently rode my 27.5 with 2.8” tires and it’s amazing how great they react on my loose and rocky So Cal trails. I don’t see myself going less than 2.6” tires ever again. Like you said,I’m not trying to KOM and just wanna have fun on my trails.
Fit couple in the Philippines I think the 2.6 would fit
My Mach 6 weighs 29.1 with the heavy tires.
Nice carving bike.
Brian Vaughn sure is!
awesome video. what trail system is this?
Do you ever plan to review an Occam?
Just ordered mine and switching from my v3
Is it a lot better ? I know where the have a medium V3 for new for sale
It’s been a while since you tested the 2019. How does the suspension redesign compare? Does it make much of a difference. I have the 2019 wondering if it’s worth an upgrade or not?
Sparks 701 all the new lower link VPP bikes have a more bottomless feel than their predecessors. The 19 felt lighter on it’s feet, but not as capable. If your looking for a longer and more capable bike then I would upgrade. The 19 is still an awesome bike.
Its def. not worth it upgrading a 1 year old bike
Shark fin! BOOST! 🤘😃🤘
J K wheee!
nice video man, I'm waiting for my 5010 to arrive. Do you ride it in the high or low settings? whats the advantage if both? Thanks
Sweet video as always!! Just wondering, are you still using the evo ss with the hero 7 black when you use the gimbal? Wanting to upgrade to the hero 7 black but worried if I use it with my current evo ss the audio is going to be bad! Your audio sounds really great in this vid, no gimbal motor noise
Discover with Dave I’m using the hero 7 with the karma grip
JC - would you add this to a Hightower ? Or hardtail ?
Sham Rock Probably add a hardtail.
That bike looks fun. What trail did you test it on?
These trails look fun, where is this??
Pinehills in Plymouth mass
O my huhu my dream bike
Damn you were flying
Cheap-O MTB it’s special effects.
It’s a good one ☝️
Great review! Covered all aspects. Where are these trails? Names?
Trails are in Pine Hills in Plymouth MA I think
5010...still the bike on order. 8 weeks and counting.
Hi where did you order? Got mine from mikes bikes, they said maybe november
Yob jalandoni local bike shop
nice clip 🤙
Thanks 🤘
Nice review. When you said, if you are looking for stability on descends and fastest. Can you share with me examples of other bikes. Thanks
cAPitaN cERrO well 1st bike that comes to mind my Stumpy Evo. Super long and slack. Others - new Enduro, Megatower, SB 150 etc...
Why do american's say "Shram"? I notice this in a lot in videos. Is it just because people got used to saying Shimano that they think Sram is pronounced Shram?
Sharam
im 5'10 so stuck on getting a medium or large, my current stumpy is a large with a 455mm reach and feels a tad bit too big. The 5010 medium is 450mm reach so you think medium?
Hey John I like my bikes to feel a little bit big so the large 5010 actually felt perfect to me. Does the large Stumpy feel too big to you when pedaling?
@@jctrails yeah it definitely feels a tad bit to big, I am on the lighter side so its a lot harder to throw around in the air, i think im gonna get a medium. What do you think?
4:48 *traveling hyper speed*
You can tell this isn’t the fastest bike
It's not abt the bike.. Its the rider skills that matters..
Usian potika lol you didn’t get the joke
Trace it's roots back to my Blur TRC
I got way too many new bikes to buy now.
Steven Sweet haha! N+4 or 8
I’m sad My purple 5010 is now outdated 😂
Matt F the purple monster is still a rad bike!
JC TRAILS Yeah man, definitely still love it. Took it to Vietnam last weekend!
When they make it in a 29er, I'll buy one.
They do.
Meh, I'll stick to my 650b hardtail for the mountain bmx experience.