And isn't it incredible how, just a couple years ago, we were all saying "look at how amazing the trees look!" Incredible what a jump in world fidelity MSFS 2020 & 2024 represent.
This is probably the best comparison video ive seen so far between the two sims. The difference is huge and you've done a great job showing this in good detail
Cant want for you guys to experience our Zlin Norden in 2024. Its a bush pilots dream. This this weekend, tinkering with back country light cargo running, banner towing, making her super messy with multiple layers of dirt and mud. Draco will be stunning, and everything the community have asked for, but the Norden may very well be our proudest work yet.
Holy hell, I was psyched for MSFS 2020 and was blown away with it (the detail of my own neighborhood especially!). Cannot wait for this release, 3 days!
Great video, one of the better comparison videos I've seen. The difference the new trees make is insane! It looks so much more realistic now. I didn't try the alpha, can't wait to buy the sim next month and explore my own neighbourhood again, it's going to feel like a whole new experience all over again!
2020's vibrancy is like those super saturated HDR photos. It's very pretty at first but becomes obnoxious over time. So I'm very glad they're toning down the colors and the green a bit in favor or a look a little more natural. Really the one thing I prefer from X-Plane's look is the palettes and the haze for the same reason. I really wanna try out how the flight model has changed now.
2020's green-tinted dirt areas like the bluffs on the left @8:05 drove me up the wall. I especially notice it around my home area of the southern B.C. Interior, where the lower mountains are mostly brown save for s few scattered evergreens. In 2020, it all has a green hue probably due to the Bing maps imagery having a green wash to everything. This comparison gives me hope. Thanks!
How the heck do you have less than 200 subscribers?! I'm so excited for MSFS 2024, and I think that will be the reason I upgrade to a gaming PC. I hope you make more content like this. You have a great voice for these voice overs - it's clear to hear yet gentle to listen to. I can't wait to watch more of your content!
@@gregorydaggett7444 Ha. Thanks Gregory! I just started and hope to grow, but I’m not in this for the numbers. Just want to create what I enjoy and make some friends or a community in the process.
Bob Ross, that was such a joy to watch. 😂 You've given me a new place to explore as well. Really looking forward to 2024. Thanks! Subscribed. As for my controls, I currently have them setup through Spad next. I'm sure they will have an update for the new sim. Spad is sooo much better and I no longer have to worry about losing my bindings due to a mandatory sim update or some random cause, which is extremely annoying! 😬 Spad is worth it's weight in gold!!!
Hahaha I had to adjust a bit to his voice after hearing all the loud and clear ones, but I watched the whole video and I'm totally relaxed now, I knew his voice sounded familiar somehow 😆
Great video and comparison. I am also impressed with the water masking and colours of inland rivers and lakes. The no longer look like Caribbean blue and take on more of a muddier look
Don’t know if anyone commented yet, but you push the little “power” button on top right side of the tablet. That made it disappear. Then you’d click on the suction cup to bring it back. Now, you’ll know when the game comes out next month! I’m excited.
thats one of the best comparison videos I have seen, thanks for sharing. what are your system specs? I am curious how close mine will look to that lol.
I probably should add that to videos because it is a good question. I have been telling most of those that have asked, if your current setup is running 2020 well, especially in DX12, you shouldn’t have a problem at all. At time of recording I am running a 12th gen intel with 32 gb of ram with a 4090 and three screens. That’s overkill for sure. I’d be more focused on the CPU with this title than most.
I'm going to be petty. Please forgive me haha. I wish they'd added bushes and shrubs. The ground still looks really unrealistic, even more so with all of those pine trees and flat ground underneath. It's definitely a huge improvement but man small bushes, shrubs, and flowers would really make a huge difference. I'm sure it's too taxing for current gen systems. Great video. One of the best comparisons I've seen!
@@smck2753 I don’t think it’s petty to push the developers and ask for more. It benefits all of us. You are probably right though. It’s just a compromise on what is wanted vs what current tech will allow.
no, was simply disabled for the test version, afaik they only wanted to test the clouds and the servers and whatnot. It's all hearsay tho, take it with a grain of salt but leaving bushes out would be a very stupid decision overall.
Nice video! Could you please made a video or tell me if the roads and highways are flattened on msfs 2024? On msfs 2020 on mountain roads specially are not flattened, and looks like “falling” roads. Thanks!
@@felipeepilefelipe I’m sorry. I’d love to but the alpha/beta period passed and I don’t have access to it for now. I am hopeful that they offer another. From what I remember, the roads are still inaccurate for exact elevations. Remember, this is a “digital twin” of the world. There are limits to what it can do.
@@BushBuddha-d2x thanks for your reply. I remember years ago, on FSX, there was an add-on, "Ultimate Terrain" for Europe and USA, that flattened the ground under the roads.
@@nunu1952 I will have to investigate if there is another beta or at release. Thanks for the suggestion. I spent a long time clicking all of the context sensitive spots on the EFB but never found it. Just assumed it was yet to be added.
9:07 this is music to my ears as I adore trim and hate badly implemented trim. DCS is another one where you just cant trim out the planes. I even went and halved the amount of trim you get for a key press in DCS and it still is either climbing or diving. This is due IMO to DCS changing the amount of lift change for the tiniest speed change to be a bit more than real life and even posted this on DCS forums to no avail. My theory on DCS as a whole is they make stuff a bit harder to force the player to never feel comfortable which is not what I want in a leisure flight sim like MSFS so I am very happy to hear you say trim is better in upcoming 2024. Like for example in DCS yrs back and still in old planes that have not been updated when you hit the brakes the plane acted like it was on an icy runway when its dry and summer out. Why...to make it harder and make players feel better at being a pilot LOL
Excellent video, thanks, and very helpful (keeping in mind that this is still alpha). You might consider turning up your mike a bit, as your commentary mostly dissolved under the engine hum. Still, good job.
I don't usually fly that low to the water, but isnt the artifacts actually gentle wind catching the top of swells and causing ripples in the water? I always thought the level of derail for altitude was always off for water. Lakes looked like huge sea swells when windy.
3:30 those anomalies kinda remind me of rough water surface (not very realistic looking, granted but the similarity is kind of there). just think of them as "unintended features" lol
What you are calling anomalies in the water - are you thinking of the bands/streaks of small ripples? Think those are supposed to be there - typical to see on flat water in sunny weather when wind puffs moves across the lake, looks somewhat natural to me. Edit: nevermind, guess you meant the reflections of the mountains, a lot of those was really bad.
With 2024 there is a noticeable stutter whenever you are closer to the ground and there's trees around. Is it just the recording or it's the way it really is? Frankly breaks the immersion a lot for me...
@@JP-hm1kt Not sure. Could be the recording possibly. I know that when I flew, it seemed to run smoother with zero pauses like those that plague 2020 and have for a while. Only time will tell after the full release. Immersion is broken for me more when my wife comes in the room and asks what I am doing. 😜
@BushBuddha-d2x It is really a microstutter, can you spot it in your video? Lucky you, my wife just passed away two months back after 20 years being together. Cherish every moment you spend together... :(
First off, I’m sorry for your loss. Sincerely. I joke about Mrs Buddha but she is the magneto that turns this prop, for sure. I certainly will, and do, cherish her. Yep. I notice it slightly. I may have settings cranked a little higher than I could and certainly more than 95% of people would. (4k upscaled 130% plus OBS and little navmap running on a 2nd monitor.)
@@jamesleicher It is making more efficient use of multi-threading, yes. That seems to explain the increase in visuals with the same or better performance.
I’m interested in how the flight models will be along with weather injection. That’s what’s always been lacking in 2020 never mind the AI traffic and idiotic ground equipment.
REQUEST: Can you fly in Lake Garda, Italy, particularly the cliff areas? One thing I'm hesitant about in MSFS2024 is that it will have the same low-quality areas as 2020. 2020 looks great in some areas, but at Lake Garda, and the Northern Mediterranean coast, it looks terrible and doesn't resemble the actual landscape almost at all.
@@kaio37k The alpha period ended and I don’t have the ability to fly in it until another test period or the full release. Is it a perfect rendition of our entire earth? No. If that is a strict requirement then you may be disappointed.
To me the visual fidelity of the Tech Alpha was a HUGE leap forward compared to MSFS 2020. I will also say the smoothness of 2024 in flight seems far superior to 2020.
Under graphics options it says render scaling. You can either scale up or down above your native resolution. It is a nice way to push your GPU (or give it some relief). Hope this helps.
No one seems to show off the city autogen and it doesn't seem like they improved it at all. In MS2020 there are tons of cities that have one single building texture repeated on all buildings in a city, so I really hope they add more autogen variation like they have with trees, otherwise trees won't help with immersion if every second building looks exactly the same...and hand picked photogrammetry cities will never cover over 99% of the earth.
Thanks for the input. I was frustrated with myself for forgetting to make sure that 2024 was set at the same time, but both default to the current day and the sun appeared to be close to the same position after reviewing the issue. Because of this, I felt it didn't require a reshoot. I think that the difference in lighting is mostly due to the way MSFS 2024 handles it vs 2020.
Too late now but someone should have found a "real life" video from a bushtrip, and then flown the same route using 2024 and 2020 to make comparison between real life and "video game" quality. Great video here tho.
Nice trees in MSFS 2024 so far, but what about the tropics? like the Maldives for example, in MSFS 2020 they still use European trees, not a coconut palm in sight, even with 3rd party software the base islands lack proper indigenous trees. I see all the tech alpha RUclipsrs, have all concentrated on videos showing off the western world, such as Canada, or the grand canyon etc, maybe due to deliberate Asobo limitations on the tech alpha where they could fly. But what is India like, or the far east, or south america? Will proper rain forest trees be represented, along with other species in their proper geo locations? MSFS 2020 trees are awful, even after countless updates they look terrible. Asobo are notorious for ignoring the communities requests, just look at their lack of a basic Flyby camera or Tower view camera despite countless requests, they never listen to the community, just pretend they do. Whilst this new sim looks better, its not a major leap forward as many are pretending. As for scratches in the perspex cockpit windows, MSFS 2020 has that also with many of its own aircraft and addon aircraft, so that's not a graphical upgrade. Enjoyed the comparison and cheers for the upload.
It is unbelievable how much better 2024 looks against 2020 even without photogrammetry and grass.... 2024 has much better lightings trees... 2020 is too greenish
@@Trip_on_the_Sky i have both, and i don't see much diference... just the trees mate , color and reflexions a little bit better and terrain a little bit better but nothing😮on physics the trees effect moving with wind is kind the same of msfs2020 , cars on the road still a little bit stupid too like ghost.. when landing on the water the waves looks exactly the same just like playstation 3 ... it's not a big upgrade yet, for me this is like copy paste and add this and that.. i believe will get better with time but not impress yet in my rtx 4090. ive seen better graphics on terrain, water , trees but considering its a flight game is pretty okay but not mind blowing yet .. not in default for sure even in ultra high. i hope will make diference when new updates comes in 👌
@@nunosantos2015 that you can't have real life...sorry. For a game like this that gives you the whole world faithfully recreated to fly in it is pretty incredible, I don't know if you've seen the presentations they've done on the new physics and aerodynamics and the more than 4 thousand points of interaction compared to the few in 2020. The terrain graphics have improved embarrassingly. They have a more scientific approach now with aircraft physics, using calculations and numbers. You listed a lot of improvements yourself only you discredited them by saying it was little while in fact the work is really a lot. Again you can't have a world detailed down to the color of the couch in your house, we should be grateful for what msfs2024 offer that no simulator has ever offered. It also weighs 28 gb compared to the current 128...I really could stand here and list all the improvements we've been told about all these months but everyone has different standards, maybe you're not satisfied, I am, that's okay. All good 🙌
You can set the bandwidth you want. Playing with 20mb/s looks fine. Also, the vast majority of people have unlimited internet now. So its literally a non-factor.
How can you really say fs2020 is the best piece of software visually? It's not that great, some places look amazing, but most places look okay, and many places horrible. If it weren't for clouds and lighting, it would be nothing.
Your audio is distant and raspy (sibilance) and poppy, bordering on unintelligible. whatever clever filter you are running, don't. 2024 looks pretty good but the water reflections are screen space which makes them wrong a lot of the time. Not sure why they do that, doing it right shouldn't be that demanding even without raytracing
Audio has been fixed since (in the subsequent video). There was no “clever filter”, just a cheap mic. It was paid for magically, through your positivity, so thank you.
Given this is two separate sims running a half hour apart on one PC (I’m just a guy with the same equipment you probably have), I’m pretty pleased how close they were.
@@gstrdms Did anyone think it’s the full version? Did you? The “Tech Alpha, or “beta” as it was labeled by Microsoft when I clicked it to start it, performed better than 2020, looks better, loads quicker and installs lighter. If you conclude that’s clickbait, so be it.
@@BushBuddha-d2x Yes, it's misleading to people who were not involved in the Alpha test or were not aware. It's worth adding to the title to clarify that it isn't a direct comparison between full release versions. The alpha is lacking MANY features that will be available on launch that would make an even starker contrast in this type of comparison. Flora and fauna will be added as well as improved sat imagery. It's unfair to paint this as simply a 2020 vs 2024 comparison.
using this simulated world just for msfs is a true waste of potential... imagine a cross game world where there are boats simulators, train simulators, heck even forza horizon. they should even use this world to replace bing maps...
Who said anything about this only being for msfs. Youre just making up wild assumptions. Jorg has said it was Microsoft who wanted to make the digital twin. And they get to benefit off it for their project. So yes, its highly correlated to Microsoft at large. Not Asobo.
MSFS might impress the armatures because yes it does look good, but , it fails year after year in the fact there are no warm air currents rising and no cold air currents falling . There is no turbulence from mountains from the push on the wind side to the down draughts in the Lee side. MSFS is child's kids game and nothing more .
Sounds like you are uninformed about what the sim is capable of. They do have thermals that bounce off the mountains and rise simulated in MSFS. Asobo even showcased how it works in one of the developer Q&A. You can even turn on the visual representation to visualize it.
@@ryanwright3965 I was just thinking this. Saying in my mind........didn't I just see a button to visually display thermals this morning while playing with the weather settings??? 🤣
OK, so 2024 and I’ve noticed this in every video 2024’s colors looked very bleached. They do not look real. There is more color to the world than these very bright sand type colors. There’s a lot of good things in 2024 but I think there’s a lot of good things in 2020. I think they’re both equal in their own right. The only thing that’s different in 2024 is the engine that they are using for the simulator. Other than that, I don’t really see anything that would convince me to switch my Sims at the moment. 2020 in my opinion has finally come into its own. The amount of money I have spent and the add-ons and everything that I have for 2020 at this point is not worth me switching over to 2024. Now I’m not saying that won’t happen in the future but as of right now, I’m happy with 2020 and it’s running smooth. I get great frame rates and it runs excellent in VR
i wouldn't call them bleached, especially that it lacks the green hue that 2020 has, that makes images look dirty in both orthos, and just the sim itself, still, if you already own and are happy with 2020, the only reason id switch to 2024 is if you want the improved flight model, or the new planes, load times, or don't have 2020, otherwise, 2020 will remain a good option regardless
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"All the trees look like broccoli in 2020"
I couldn't agree more! 😂
Exactly what I was going to say. Finally, the trees will match the region.
@RustyPNW "But But But, why are they not focusing on the flying?! It's a flight simulator! I just want planes and a black void!"
And isn't it incredible how, just a couple years ago, we were all saying "look at how amazing the trees look!" Incredible what a jump in world fidelity MSFS 2020 & 2024 represent.
This is probably the best comparison video ive seen so far between the two sims. The difference is huge and you've done a great job showing this in good detail
@@rickb1428 Thank you and thanks for watching! I tried to do it justice. I think the majority of us are going to be very impressed with 2024.
Cant want for you guys to experience our Zlin Norden in 2024. Its a bush pilots dream. This this weekend, tinkering with back country light cargo running, banner towing, making her super messy with multiple layers of dirt and mud. Draco will be stunning, and everything the community have asked for, but the Norden may very well be our proudest work yet.
Excited is an understatement! GotFriends has always nailed bush flying and I can't wait to get our hands on it.
Can’t wait! Just put money down on the real black and gray Norden that’s going into the sim. :)
Holy hell, I was psyched for MSFS 2020 and was blown away with it (the detail of my own neighborhood especially!). Cannot wait for this release, 3 days!
Love the new vegetation and colors
Great video, one of the better comparison videos I've seen. The difference the new trees make is insane! It looks so much more realistic now. I didn't try the alpha, can't wait to buy the sim next month and explore my own neighbourhood again, it's going to feel like a whole new experience all over again!
@@kevinbrook7033 The detail in residential areas is much better. It isn’t perfect, but it’s a huge improvement.
The new visuals are truly an amazing fantastic upgrade.
2020's vibrancy is like those super saturated HDR photos. It's very pretty at first but becomes obnoxious over time. So I'm very glad they're toning down the colors and the green a bit in favor or a look a little more natural. Really the one thing I prefer from X-Plane's look is the palettes and the haze for the same reason. I really wanna try out how the flight model has changed now.
2020's green-tinted dirt areas like the bluffs on the left @8:05 drove me up the wall. I especially notice it around my home area of the southern B.C. Interior, where the lower mountains are mostly brown save for s few scattered evergreens. In 2020, it all has a green hue probably due to the Bing maps imagery having a green wash to everything.
This comparison gives me hope. Thanks!
How the heck do you have less than 200 subscribers?! I'm so excited for MSFS 2024, and I think that will be the reason I upgrade to a gaming PC. I hope you make more content like this. You have a great voice for these voice overs - it's clear to hear yet gentle to listen to. I can't wait to watch more of your content!
@@gregorydaggett7444 Ha. Thanks Gregory! I just started and hope to grow, but I’m not in this for the numbers. Just want to create what I enjoy and make some friends or a community in the process.
Well done! Looking forward to more content from you in the future!
Bob Ross, that was such a joy to watch. 😂
You've given me a new place to explore as well. Really looking forward to 2024. Thanks! Subscribed.
As for my controls, I currently have them setup through Spad next. I'm sure they will have an update for the new sim.
Spad is sooo much better and I no longer have to worry about losing my bindings due to a mandatory sim update or some random cause, which is extremely annoying! 😬 Spad is worth it's weight in gold!!!
Hahaha I had to adjust a bit to his voice after hearing all the loud and clear ones, but I watched the whole video and I'm totally relaxed now, I knew his voice sounded familiar somehow 😆
The 'happy little trees' now look much better! 😂
I like the details with the trees and ground in MSFS2024. On the colours, I always find it more a matter of taste rather than anything else.
Great video and comparison. I am also impressed with the water masking and colours of inland rivers and lakes. The no longer look like Caribbean blue and take on more of a muddier look
Don’t know if anyone commented yet, but you push the little “power” button on top right side of the tablet. That made it disappear. Then you’d click on the suction cup to bring it back. Now, you’ll know when the game comes out next month! I’m excited.
thats one of the best comparison videos I have seen, thanks for sharing. what are your system specs? I am curious how close mine will look to that lol.
I probably should add that to videos because it is a good question. I have been telling most of those that have asked, if your current setup is running 2020 well, especially in DX12, you shouldn’t have a problem at all. At time of recording I am running a 12th gen intel with 32 gb of ram with a 4090 and three screens. That’s overkill for sure. I’d be more focused on the CPU with this title than most.
I'm going to be petty. Please forgive me haha. I wish they'd added bushes and shrubs. The ground still looks really unrealistic, even more so with all of those pine trees and flat ground underneath. It's definitely a huge improvement but man small bushes, shrubs, and flowers would really make a huge difference. I'm sure it's too taxing for current gen systems. Great video. One of the best comparisons I've seen!
@@smck2753 I don’t think it’s petty to push the developers and ask for more. It benefits all of us. You are probably right though. It’s just a compromise on what is wanted vs what current tech will allow.
Guess what. in the full version there will be bushes shrubs grass and rocks and fauna on the ground, they just removed it in the alpha preview.
no, was simply disabled for the test version, afaik they only wanted to test the clouds and the servers and whatnot. It's all hearsay tho, take it with a grain of salt but leaving bushes out would be a very stupid decision overall.
@@trainsofnorway9664 That sounds like an excuse.
@@FordHoard it isnt, the goal of the alpha was not to test the shrubery, thus they removed it
Nice video! Could you please made a video or tell me if the roads and highways are flattened on msfs 2024? On msfs 2020 on mountain roads specially are not flattened, and looks like “falling” roads. Thanks!
@@felipeepilefelipe I’m sorry. I’d love to but the alpha/beta period passed and I don’t have access to it for now. I am hopeful that they offer another. From what I remember, the roads are still inaccurate for exact elevations. Remember, this is a “digital twin” of the world. There are limits to what it can do.
@@BushBuddha-d2x thanks for your reply. I remember years ago, on FSX, there was an add-on, "Ultimate Terrain" for Europe and USA, that flattened the ground under the roads.
Great comparison video. Looking forward to more Videos from both sims
You can hide the tablet by clicking the "on" button from the tablet. It's one on the small buttons on the right side.
@@nunu1952 I will have to investigate if there is another beta or at release. Thanks for the suggestion. I spent a long time clicking all of the context sensitive spots on the EFB but never found it. Just assumed it was yet to be added.
Those cliff sides in 2024 ❤
Best comparison i've seen.
Your channel is designed for 2024. I love the improvements to the world and can't wait to get out there and experience it!
You sold me that Game pretty well! 😄
Water reflection in Comanche 4 (2001) looked more real. Besides screen-space water reflection, MSFS-2024 graphic is great!
3:08 the messed up bridges seems to be an intractable problem even in MSFS 2024
To remove tablet it is one of the small buttons on the right side of the tablet
Great work! Thanks!
Thanx great video. Earned my sub. Look forward to your channel and 2024.
9:07 this is music to my ears as I adore trim and hate badly implemented trim. DCS is another one where you just cant trim out the planes. I even went and halved the amount of trim you get for a key press in DCS and it still is either climbing or diving. This is due IMO to DCS changing the amount of lift change for the tiniest speed change to be a bit more than real life and even posted this on DCS forums to no avail. My theory on DCS as a whole is they make stuff a bit harder to force the player to never feel comfortable which is not what I want in a leisure flight sim like MSFS so I am very happy to hear you say trim is better in upcoming 2024. Like for example in DCS yrs back and still in old planes that have not been updated when you hit the brakes the plane acted like it was on an icy runway when its dry and summer out. Why...to make it harder and make players feel better at being a pilot LOL
Great demo, thanks!
Looks stunning and the MSFS 2024 footage is from an alpha version of the game so the final game will probably look even better
I've really enjoyed FS2020 since it came out. However, the green tint to the roads has always bothered me.
@@davidgiles9751 I agree David. It looks like that will be better for 2024.
Excellent video, thanks, and very helpful (keeping in mind that this is still alpha). You might consider turning up your mike a bit, as your commentary mostly dissolved under the engine hum. Still, good job.
@@ricksole7255 Appreciate the suggestion. I’ll do that!
I don't usually fly that low to the water, but isnt the artifacts actually gentle wind catching the top of swells and causing ripples in the water? I always thought the level of derail for altitude was always off for water. Lakes looked like huge sea swells when windy.
3:30 those anomalies kinda remind me of rough water surface (not very realistic looking, granted but the similarity is kind of there). just think of them as "unintended features" lol
you can remove the tablet. its a very small clickspot about where the volume buttons would probably be on a tablet.
@@Crais-nq7xl Not sure how I missed that but thanks for the specifics!
we all had a great journey with 2020 but now the new age has arrived
What are you talking about?
amazing video, tks!
I couldn't figure out why you sound familiar. You sound like Mason Quinn from a reaction channel called "Badd Medicine".
What you are calling anomalies in the water - are you thinking of the bands/streaks of small ripples? Think those are supposed to be there - typical to see on flat water in sunny weather when wind puffs moves across the lake, looks somewhat natural to me. Edit: nevermind, guess you meant the reflections of the mountains, a lot of those was really bad.
I heard there was a button on the right side of the tablet to turn it off.
@@freddyfpv7422 Couldn’t find it. Most do. Hoping it is added or I just missed it.
They rid that mold green like color from the terrain…. finally
it's been a long time since i watched a video by an account with a mere 12 subscribers.
@@STERNWAERTS Ha. Well, it’s an honor and appreciated. Just getting started and I hope to earn more.
With 2024 there is a noticeable stutter whenever you are closer to the ground and there's trees around. Is it just the recording or it's the way it really is? Frankly breaks the immersion a lot for me...
@@JP-hm1kt Not sure. Could be the recording possibly. I know that when I flew, it seemed to run smoother with zero pauses like those that plague 2020 and have for a while. Only time will tell after the full release. Immersion is broken for me more when my wife comes in the room and asks what I am doing. 😜
@BushBuddha-d2x It is really a microstutter, can you spot it in your video? Lucky you, my wife just passed away two months back after 20 years being together. Cherish every moment you spend together... :(
First off, I’m sorry for your loss. Sincerely. I joke about Mrs Buddha but she is the magneto that turns this prop, for sure. I certainly will, and do, cherish her.
Yep. I notice it slightly. I may have settings cranked a little higher than I could and certainly more than 95% of people would. (4k upscaled 130% plus OBS and little navmap running on a 2nd monitor.)
@@BushBuddha-d2x Understood, thanks for the info!
Why your aircraft is twitching so much in 2024 tech alpha? Couldn't set up the flight stick?
Looks like a decent upgrade, but doesn't '24 seem blurry?
@@mrmangosir I think that may be the lighting combined with the more realistic windshield.
Is it running multi core now?
@@jamesleicher It is making more efficient use of multi-threading, yes. That seems to explain the increase in visuals with the same or better performance.
@@BushBuddha-d2x cheers
I’m interested in how the flight models will be along with weather injection. That’s what’s always been lacking in 2020 never mind the AI traffic and idiotic ground equipment.
REQUEST: Can you fly in Lake Garda, Italy, particularly the cliff areas?
One thing I'm hesitant about in MSFS2024 is that it will have the same low-quality areas as 2020. 2020 looks great in some areas, but at Lake Garda, and the Northern Mediterranean coast, it looks terrible and doesn't resemble the actual landscape almost at all.
@@kaio37k The alpha period ended and I don’t have the ability to fly in it until another test period or the full release.
Is it a perfect rendition of our entire earth? No. If that is a strict requirement then you may be disappointed.
I think you can use the tablet by pressing "Tab" in keyboard
To me the visual fidelity of the Tech Alpha was a HUGE leap forward compared to MSFS 2020. I will also say the smoothness of 2024 in flight seems far superior to 2020.
I'm ready to move to msfs24 and never look back
Great visuals. Microphone too close.
When you say upscaled, what do you mean, how do you "upscale"?
Under graphics options it says render scaling. You can either scale up or down above your native resolution. It is a nice way to push your GPU (or give it some relief). Hope this helps.
Ah, OK, that's great, thanks. Enjoyed the video BTW.
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No one seems to show off the city autogen and it doesn't seem like they improved it at all. In MS2020 there are tons of cities that have one single building texture repeated on all buildings in a city, so I really hope they add more autogen variation like they have with trees, otherwise trees won't help with immersion if every second building looks exactly the same...and hand picked photogrammetry cities will never cover over 99% of the earth.
No one shows it because it’s using older autogenerate for the alpha test, but that’s not a bad thing, the alpha does not represent the final product.
@@zeljkothegreekserb I don’t know to many bush pilots that fly in cities often.
Why couldn't we just reduce saturation on 2020?
Om msfs 2024 looks much better. But you shouldve used same time of day. Or is it the same? Is it such an upgrade?
Thanks for the input. I was frustrated with myself for forgetting to make sure that 2024 was set at the same time, but both default to the current day and the sun appeared to be close to the same position after reviewing the issue. Because of this, I felt it didn't require a reshoot. I think that the difference in lighting is mostly due to the way MSFS 2024 handles it vs 2020.
They are two different seasons
3:08 quick turn away, turn away....!
So they didn't fix ground textures? Shit still looks cooked
Simulator 2024 sucks up to 180 Mb/s of internet bandwidth while in flight - peak rate equivalent to 81GB of data per hour
I heard. Fortunately, I am not limited on bandwidth.
Too late now but someone should have found a "real life" video from a bushtrip, and then flown the same route using 2024 and 2020 to make comparison between real life and "video game" quality. Great video here tho.
Nice trees in MSFS 2024 so far, but what about the tropics? like the Maldives for example, in MSFS 2020 they still use European trees, not a coconut palm in sight, even with 3rd party software the base islands lack proper indigenous trees. I see all the tech alpha RUclipsrs, have all concentrated on videos showing off the western world, such as Canada, or the grand canyon etc, maybe due to deliberate Asobo limitations on the tech alpha where they could fly. But what is India like, or the far east, or south america? Will proper rain forest trees be represented, along with other species in their proper geo locations? MSFS 2020 trees are awful, even after countless updates they look terrible. Asobo are notorious for ignoring the communities requests, just look at their lack of a basic Flyby camera or Tower view camera despite countless requests, they never listen to the community, just pretend they do. Whilst this new sim looks better, its not a major leap forward as many are pretending. As for scratches in the perspex cockpit windows, MSFS 2020 has that also with many of its own aircraft and addon aircraft, so that's not a graphical upgrade. Enjoyed the comparison and cheers for the upload.
They have different biomes with different tree models now.
@@turkoman859 I hope there will be, but we will have to wait and see, cheers anyway for your reply.
great video buddha
I prefer 2020 graphics
Bear in mind photogeommetry is disabled on this technical test, so are many other graphical options.
It is unbelievable how much better 2024 looks against 2020 even without photogrammetry and grass.... 2024 has much better lightings trees... 2020 is too greenish
@@milansabojunior agreed. 1000%
i don't see much difference, only with the trees the rest is pretty much the same
😂😂 wtf, put on some sunglasses
@@Trip_on_the_Sky i have both, and i don't see much diference... just the trees mate , color and reflexions a little bit better and terrain a little bit better but nothing😮on physics the trees effect moving with wind is kind the same of msfs2020 , cars on the road still a little bit stupid too like ghost.. when landing on the water the waves looks exactly the same just like playstation 3 ... it's not a big upgrade yet, for me this is like copy paste and add this and that.. i believe will get better with time but not impress yet in my rtx 4090. ive seen better graphics on terrain, water , trees but considering its a flight game is pretty okay but not mind blowing yet .. not in default for sure even in ultra high. i hope will make diference when new updates comes in 👌
@@nunosantos2015 that you can't have real life...sorry. For a game like this that gives you the whole world faithfully recreated to fly in it is pretty incredible, I don't know if you've seen the presentations they've done on the new physics and aerodynamics and the more than 4 thousand points of interaction compared to the few in 2020. The terrain graphics have improved embarrassingly. They have a more scientific approach now with aircraft physics, using calculations and numbers. You listed a lot of improvements yourself only you discredited them by saying it was little while in fact the work is really a lot. Again you can't have a world detailed down to the color of the couch in your house, we should be grateful for what msfs2024 offer that no simulator has ever offered. It also weighs 28 gb compared to the current 128...I really could stand here and list all the improvements we've been told about all these months but everyone has different standards, maybe you're not satisfied, I am, that's okay. All good 🙌
@@nunosantos2015 The trees in MSFS2020 are 2D and don't have wind physics. What do you mean it's kind of the same?
I dont like the new light its more cinematic but not realistic
MSFS 2020 compared to a tech alpha.
Gr8 video. I'm struggling to hear your voice clearly, though.
It will be improved in the future. It's a learning process.
@@BushBuddha-d2x Good luck, my friend. Just trying to offer some friendly, constructive advice.
@@brett22bt and it is sincerely appreciated.
Bro wasted half the screen space with that weird 'side-by-side'
@@theyshouldhavenevergivenme5439 Bro. I could have cut the screens down but then someone would have moaned about it. It’s just geometry…bro.
I stopped caring about 2024 when I heard the amount of d/l per hour. It's ridiculous.
You can set the bandwidth you want. Playing with 20mb/s looks fine. Also, the vast majority of people have unlimited internet now. So its literally a non-factor.
@@FrostbitexP it's a factor is you have anyone else using the Internet
How can you really say fs2020 is the best piece of software visually?
It's not that great, some places look amazing, but most places look okay, and many places horrible.
If it weren't for clouds and lighting, it would be nothing.
@@althepsyphros3314 Sounds like this is an “agree to disagree” situation.
Your audio is distant and raspy (sibilance) and poppy, bordering on unintelligible. whatever clever filter you are running, don't.
2024 looks pretty good but the water reflections are screen space which makes them wrong a lot of the time. Not sure why they do that, doing it right shouldn't be that demanding even without raytracing
Audio has been fixed since (in the subsequent video). There was no “clever filter”, just a cheap mic. It was paid for magically, through your positivity, so thank you.
should have done side by side,split screen AND exactly the same angles...
Given this is two separate sims running a half hour apart on one PC (I’m just a guy with the same equipment you probably have), I’m pretty pleased how close they were.
@@BushBuddha-d2x Oh,ok"
still the annoying mirror like water
MSFS2024 seems more artificial
TECH ALPHA - not full version. Don't clickbait.
@@gstrdms Did anyone think it’s the full version? Did you?
The “Tech Alpha, or “beta” as it was labeled by Microsoft when I clicked it to start it, performed better than 2020, looks better, loads quicker and installs lighter. If you conclude that’s clickbait, so be it.
@@BushBuddha-d2x Yes, it's misleading to people who were not involved in the Alpha test or were not aware. It's worth adding to the title to clarify that it isn't a direct comparison between full release versions.
The alpha is lacking MANY features that will be available on launch that would make an even starker contrast in this type of comparison. Flora and fauna will be added as well as improved sat imagery. It's unfair to paint this as simply a 2020 vs 2024 comparison.
Fs2020 Win
using this simulated world just for msfs is a true waste of potential... imagine a cross game world where there are boats simulators, train simulators, heck even forza horizon. they should even use this world to replace bing maps...
Who said anything about this only being for msfs. Youre just making up wild assumptions. Jorg has said it was Microsoft who wanted to make the digital twin. And they get to benefit off it for their project. So yes, its highly correlated to Microsoft at large. Not Asobo.
MSFS might impress the armatures because yes it does look good, but , it fails year after year in the fact there are no warm air currents rising and no cold air currents falling . There is no turbulence from mountains from the push on the wind side to the down draughts in the Lee side. MSFS is child's kids game and nothing more .
I've literally used both thermals and ridge lift in MSFS to fly the gliders and it works pretty well. Maybe you have your settings wrong?
Yeah man all that stuff was in msfs2020.
It would be good to know the spec of your computer...
Sounds like you are uninformed about what the sim is capable of. They do have thermals that bounce off the mountains and rise simulated in MSFS. Asobo even showcased how it works in one of the developer Q&A. You can even turn on the visual representation to visualize it.
@@ryanwright3965 I was just thinking this. Saying in my mind........didn't I just see a button to visually display thermals this morning while playing with the weather settings??? 🤣
OK, so 2024 and I’ve noticed this in every video 2024’s colors looked very bleached. They do not look real. There is more color to the world than these very bright sand type colors. There’s a lot of good things in 2024 but I think there’s a lot of good things in 2020. I think they’re both equal in their own right. The only thing that’s different in 2024 is the engine that they are using for the simulator. Other than that, I don’t really see anything that would convince me to switch my Sims at the moment. 2020 in my opinion has finally come into its own. The amount of money I have spent and the add-ons and everything that I have for 2020 at this point is not worth me switching over to 2024. Now I’m not saying that won’t happen in the future but as of right now, I’m happy with 2020 and it’s running smooth. I get great frame rates and it runs excellent in VR
And you do you, but keep in mind, they have greatly improved just about everything, and almost all addons transfer over to 2024.
i wouldn't call them bleached, especially that it lacks the green hue that 2020 has, that makes images look dirty in both orthos, and just the sim itself, still, if you already own and are happy with 2020, the only reason id switch to 2024 is if you want the improved flight model, or the new planes, load times, or don't have 2020, otherwise, 2020 will remain a good option regardless
2020 seems better in some places 24 looks a bit cartoonish
@@alexsp7086 Hmmm. Given the saturation levels of 20 that’s exactly how I would describe it. I guess it is a subjective thing.