A couple of things my fellow Cockney chums: 1) Sorry for being out for so long with no uploads. Stupidly I decided to move home a few weeks before Christmas, meaning my PC has been in a box for a while! Good news is I'm up and running again so hoping for more content shortly! 2) Auto HDR on Windows caused a few recording issues here - either its blown out in color or very dull looking. My bad for that, I will work on a fix. 3) We need to stop making excuses for games companies. Asobo royally screwed up and the review score reflects that, and that's coming from the biggest fan of theirs. It's pathetic on their part to release the game in this current state. More videos to follow and as always love your support and comments. Love Reggie xxx
After spending hours trying to configure my Turtle Beach Yoke which the software didn't recognise I finally took off from my home airport in Vancouver I flew over downtown Vancouver and I was met with 900ft trees in the middle of downtown bigger than the hirises the graphics were abysmal I tried London same thing again with cars driving under the bridges !!....its a joke so I asked for a refund and got it!...I'll stick with MS2020 thank you .
Finally, a RUclipsr who calls out this shit, I too am sick of these games released 2 years too early. And kudos for not being a white knight like all the other flight sim so called youtubers.
Appreciate it mate… I don’t like calling out other channels by name. They are more successful, bigger and simply better at editing than I am… but for sure they aren’t calling it like it is
@@g_pazzini You are very likely right. Too bad (meaning, my fault) for 'listening' to many of them and choosing to even pre-purchase a FlightSim which I even did not need in the first place... My bad, in fact. I got the Aviator version and managed to start it and try a simple flight only a couple of days ago. Reason (for no CTD and working past the initial setup process this time): unknown. I was expecting something awesome, while in fact I found an alpha release… But again, my bad.
I wonder what kind of game you expect when you think it's 2 years too early? Like, in it's current state, it's working pretty much as expected for me. Yes it has bugs like the weird career mode progression etc, but that's like balancing issues in a shooter game. The whole cloud streaming thing works pretty well by now. And what else is there that we should expect from a flight sim? Yes, the 737max behaves like a 737ng, but default aircraft in a flightsim usually don't behave like anything that exists in reality, so I'd consider that still a pretty good aircraft.
I did not buy for a few major reasons. The big one is it's mostly cloud based and I already did not like 2020 streaming in scenery. It took the 3 years to fix the premium deluxe aircraft in 2020 and if not for working title it would have never been fixed. The next reason was it was not big enough upgrade from 2020 which I already invested a lot into. I appreciate someone that is not a shill calling them out on the BS.
Appreciate it mate. All very fair points. Sadly I wanted to see some major big channels calling them out but I’ve not seen it yet. So we keep up the good fight and just keep it real here. Appreciate the comment, cheers 🍻
@@OperationDx1 love to hear it mate. These videos take a lot of my spare time up, many many hours to edit and get the footage (and of course okay that actual game!). You do sometimes wonder if it’s worth it, so when I read comments like this it really does mean the world to me. Appreciate your support so much.
@@cockneygamer I know exactly. I used to do the RUclips thing. I enjoyed it for a good long while. But it was sucking the life out of me and made gaming less fun. So I have a respect for those who do it and are honest.
Thanks for your honest and witty review. I might add that it is perhaps even worse on Xbox - at least on PC you have some options to tweak and workaround. Xbox - nada. And when trying to get settngs as desired it quickly starts degrading performance or crashes entirely. Controller setup has been almost completely changed/effed up from 2020 - why? Why no option to keep as was or an option to import them? Why do I need to go through all mappings manually to relearn to use new controller inputs? And why then, if I try to change even one single setting for the controller it crashes every single time? Not to mention the plethora of graphical errors present, entire airports missing all buildings (Copenhagen, my home town, and a rather large airport at that), huge chunks of surface graphics never loading properly, planes acting erratically or not at all, parts missing, canopies missing, instrumentation missing, instrumentation not responding when actually there, UI messed up, crashing or just not responding for "simple" users like myself, unreliable and erratic autopilot, non functioning simple controls in airplanes, I could go on an on. And on. I was really getting into flying this past year, even considering investing in proper gear. Not anymore. The huge disappointment and frustration of 2024 has turned me off flying to a degree where I really don't enjoy it at all, not even in 2020 where most things at least work most of the time. It has soured so much I regret even buying the Xbox X - I bought it to play MSFS in the first place - and as soon as I finish another game I play, my Gamepass Ultimate subscription will go as well. It is as if 2024 running on Xbox has lowest priority, an afterthought at best. It is precisely as you say, we are paying to beta test. I am on a superfast fiber connection with enough bandwidth for at least 10 households but even with all other equipment off my network entirely and the connection entirely dedicated to the Xbox it still does not work even halfway. Sorry, had to vent somewhere - there aren't many reviews or the like out there re. Xbox users of 2024.
Great points mate and yes, I’ve read a lot of Reddit posts saying how on Xbox it’s even worse. A real shame that because the console is capable of playing the game, but what they produced is just terrible all around. Thanks for commenting and sharing your story, cheers 🍻
MSFS 2020 is 4 years old already, but still has runway edge lights in the middle of taxiways at the entries of runways . It doesn't look right when we run over the lights to enter the runways .
The fact that when you do a career mission and your head is sticking out of the top of the plane and your passenger is hanging under the plane is a travesty for a billion dollar company to put this out just to make some cash by the end of the year. They basically are saying we have no respect for our customers and we will fix these issues when we get to it
True. Though I do place a little blame on the pre-order crowd. If we all waited to see what it was really like then that would have sent a better message. They have people's money now (not mine thankfully) so f**k em. It's a shame that the gaming industry has come to such a place but again... the pre ordering people allowed it to be this way.
Like someone said on Reddit, nobody asked for FS 2024. They could have gone for 2 or 3 more years to properly give it shape, all the while improving FS 2020. But Asobo needed their paycheck, and Microsoft needed a new shiny toy to put on the Game Pass shelf. It runs way worst than 2020 while not being that much of a graphical upgrade, and they totally butchered the game with those ridiculous AI voices. I mean, even something as low effort as recording voices wasn't in their plan... Heck, they could have asked John or Olivia from the marketing department to record them in exchange of a free cupcake, it would have been way better. Not mentionning the addition of helicopters and hot air balloons, which is a fun idea... But you do that when the heart of the game, the fixed wings aircrafts, is functionning decently. And of course, kudos for the dumbo at Asobo and/or Microsoft for going full streaming, in a day and age where storage is getting cheaper and cheaper.
Yeah I can't believe how bad the voices are. They just couldn't be bothered to spend $500 on voice actors. Fucking infuriating. Well that and everything else
2024 runs a lot better for me than 2020. Finally a smooth flying experience while in 2020 was always fighting with settings and still getting jittery experiences
Recording voices is "low effort" to you? All those languages, thousands of lines, each by many different actors etc. Remember, this isn't Call of Duty where you basically play through a movie. Imagine they had actually paid for that...we'd all be sitting here going "why in the f*ing world did they spend our money on voice actors???? Just give us some better planes, Jesus!"
@@josetjr109everything runs better on flat screen, man. It’s when you up the ante with triple screens, and most importantly, VR, that you see the issues with streaming. Think about it, streaming turns all of our top notch tech into an Xbox Series X, which means that they will run the assets at the lowest denominator of available tech. This sim was designed around the console. Heck, that interface, so you need to think hard about it? I can tell that they are streaming at lower resolution than available because VR is the way to tell. And 2020 is amazing at max settings in VR, while I can’t even stand looking at jagged cockpits, especially in non Asobo planes. They are years behind in cleaning this like of garbage up. You can’t get on a forum and tout your experience with this sim on a flat screen. Heck, my 3080 runs this sim quite well on flat screen on 1440P. No complaints there. But VR is the way to go, friend. Trust me on that.
They put out a game two years to soon. 2024 is not finished, and they overdid the hype. They did the usual by letting the player find the problems so they can fix it, which is a piss poor attitude towards their customers.
If MSFS2024 ever becomes playable, and I buy it, I will then take a MiG-29, paint it in the colors of Big Jet, climb aboard it and fly it towards the Microsoft Headquarters for the ultimate showdown for the ages (all in the video game, of course).
The real issue here isn't just the release date-it's that they simply don’t have a clue what they’re doing. Take a look at their choice of single-threading in 2020, which, in hindsight, was a poor decision. Now, they’ve finally switched to multi-threading, which is the right move, but then they made the whole thing cloud-based. On top of that, they’ve added so much stuff into the sim that simmers aren’t even asking for, and much of it is likely to cause further issues and bugs. This clearly shows they don’t understand what they’re doing. The game won’t meaningfully improve in two years with this approach-it needs a complete overhaul from a developer who knows how to create a high-performance simulation that runs as smoothly as butter. Asobo is a game company, not a sim company, and that’s where the problem lies. I don’t want game gimmicks in my simulator. I just want to fly and enjoy a realistic experience, free of bugs, hiccups, stutters, and crashes. They’ve missed the chance to make this a success because they clearly don’t understand what simming is all about. In my opinion, sims shouldn’t have “gameplay” at all. At the very least, they could have separated it-one version for those who want a gaming experience and another for those who want a pure, nonsense-free simulator. Cutting out unnecessary content would reduce bugs, minimize data load, and create a more reliable experience overall.
Why do people always say that when they find the one youtuber who says something negative?? I saw someone say the same thing on a negative review of Half Life Alyx. just a really dumb take.
@@Dreadpirateflappycuz in the age of shilling, negatively reviewing games usually means honestly, but in this case this isn’t the first one (jayz2cents) to give the devs of this game a kick in the butt they deserve. He’s right though there’s a ton of bugs in this game, even if it’s pretty and runs well. I haven’t heard anything of the sort of any Half Life game.
all assets are serverside? I know why they did that, it's so when the new game comes out, they can force your game to be unplayable instantly. You'll never have nostalgia again
@@biffhenderson1144 kinda sorta, but you can store it, and some data hoarders tend to keep them, then share them much later on (I used to be like that, never delete things and had a pile of drives from as far back as the 90s)
@@TheGadgetbadger I understand the world size issues, but they're locking everything behind servers. I also bet you that they haven't even attempted file size optimisation why are people so sure that it's a bad thing? because it's expensive to constantly have people download the same thing over and over again without local caching. So why do it? because they can say "it's too expensive to keep the servers running" when their next game comes out. This is easing us inch by inch into the idea of games as a service, and you own nothing
I'll give FS2024 one thing, for a "flight simulator", it sure does an awesome job of simulating giraffes and deer. The truth is MSFS2024 is an utter bug-ridden disgrace. From the disastrous launch, when they should have known about server loads, to the hundreds and hundreds of bugs in the program. Airports missing terminals, entire airports missing, airborne jetways, aircraft with wings missing, avatars hanging upside down out of flying aircraft, blurry terrain, CTDs etc etc. It's utterly pathetic. They rushed it out and they knew it wasn't ready. It's going to take at least a full year before it's even close to fixed, if ever. If you're wondering who the beta testers are, it's the people who bought this joke of a program. I got a refund as I won't reward their incompetence and I won't pay for the privilege of being a beta-tester.
You guys on Xbox because I’m on PC and it’s great for me. They fixed the floating jetways, everything looks sharp and clear and performance is smooth on ultra. With just flight traffic full ai traffic and beyondATC. To me it surpassed msfs20. I can finally flight anywhere with stupid stutters on arrival at heavy scenery and flight model is much better too.
@@highaltitude787 i'm with you on that for sure... is FS24 100% bug free? no.. is it performing better than FS20 while looking better and also shipping with more features? Hell yea!
Perfect summary. It had all the right ingredients for an amazing soup, but Microsoft continually lace it with Sulphuric Acid at every turn. Got tired of it, moved back to X-Plane, not as pretty, but it works, stores the world locally, and flies far better. Disgusting work Asobo and Microsoft, absolutely no morals what so ever releasing such a total mess. I've said this on a few comments now, but, the reality here is Microsoft have pandered to the masses with a visual "Terrain Simulator", an entertainment product at best (though its hardly entertaining) where X-Plane delivers an actual "Flight Simulator", a tool to do a job, which it does very well indeed.
Thanks for that. I've been contemplating shifting from X-Plane to FS2024. I'm an Apple user, so that would have meant a significant cost either with a hardware change or Xbox Game Pass Ultimate subscription. Now I think I'll stay put and wait for MS to get their act together!
I flew FSX all the way into last year. I took a long hard look at both 2020 and XP and, based on the myriad of stories regarding the difficulty in installing 2020 and the requirement to be connected to the Internet at all times, I opted to try XP12. I downloaded the demo and it was a no-brainer. I installed the whole thing in 30 minute with no problem. Mapped my controllers in five minutes and went flying. Was totally impressed by the flying and the visuals. One single commercial transaction, no login. This is the difference between a large company with a portfolio of products across multiple platforms with integrated marketing and a small company devoted to a single dream. XP12 works as advertised.
It's not just Asobo. Game developers have been doing this for a while now. Put it on the market broken, take the money, let the gamers be the proof testers. It's not fair at all. They pushed to get this sim out on the market before the end of the year. Otherwise they would have had to change the name to FS2025. If I buy a brand new car I should be able to start it up and drive it away! That is not what happened with this sim, and I'm so glad I didn't run right out and buy it. I'm going to wait until mid 2025 before I buy it, and it damn well better be ALL fixed by then!
Yeah, true. We had to wait about a week until we could drive off in our...60-220€ car. With no real need for that car in that time anyways. And the car will run for 4 years, so really we should be refunded 1/(52*4)*220€ = 1€ as an aviators edition customer.
@@AndrePereira-tw5vsfor dedicated simmer’s that’s not a problem - they’ll just buy a 4TB ssd and call it good - at least make it optional, don’t have the space, stream it, if you do, store it.
Not sure it's a death kneel, for some reason these people think that everyone has broadband internet that is unlimited. How many peope actually download all those regions and cities and buy all those airplanes and globe hop? I find myself with a few planes and flying in my region and it doesn't take all that much space, but the upgraded base sim does and has grown enormously.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, they should have either pushed the launch back to 2025 and announced that the sim simply wasn't ready yet, or they should have marketed the game as early access. I had previously tried to give them the benefit of the doubt that maybe the studio was under pressure from higher ups in the company to push the sim out by a specific date, but honestly, your point about them possibly taking advantage of their customers and covertly using a buggy launch as free labor beta testing is... compelling.
I'm betting Microsoft was the ones who gave the ultimatum. They did the same with MSFS, launched when it wasn't ready, had a horrible launch overall, and 4 years later the same problems exist. Now look at 2024 with Microsoft being the publisher and who's name is on it... Over 2x more cost for the best package, horrible launch, same problems in 24 that still reside in 2020.... It was Microsoft who bent everyone (even asobo) over.
It almost always comes down to development cost. I'm sure the same thing that happened to KSP 2 happened here. Didn't use the same engineers from the previous project. Couldn't create working tech in time for the deadline. Budget went over thus requiring to ship to market to make back something before going broke.
This is now the standard release formula for most major game companies it seems (think CD Project Red with CyberPunk): 1. Use internal metric targets and investor goals to set release schedule, taking advantage of the holiday season and goodwill towards previous game. 2. Release game to meet schedule at any cost regardless of quality of the release. Great sales due to marketing hype and goodwill. 3. Top management apologies profusely for broken release and hopes to do better next time. 4. A patch released early in Dec to deal with low hanging fruit. No more patches until end of vacation season. 5. Upper management/executives get great salary hikes and end-of-year bonuses for releasing game on time as per market schedule & hitting sales targets. 6. Devs slogging thru next year to squash bugs, along with a healthy does of vitriol and harassment from community.
7. What's wrong with the above? Life is hard and running a business with pissy and lazy devz is nearly impossible. Money needs to be collected. Bugs should not be there, but they don't always jump out until it's in the wild. You can't have the incredible games we enjoy without major investors, and they deserve the quickest return possible.
Why do investors deserve the quickest return possible? Seems like they just want a 10% return on their money, wouldn't everybody. MSFS has been around for 40 years and the cessna had inoperative buttons and switches. The GPS for the planes didnt work until 3rd party took that issue on and still not sure it is fully functional as the counter part.
I've played a fair amount of flight sim 2024 and have only encountered a few small bugs, nothing that affected me in a major way, but this video is absolutely needed. Asobo need to be held accountable for what they put out, and this is exactly the kind of critical feedback they need to hear and listen to.
I get cruise ships merging into everything at any city with water enough for boats. Not sure if they patched it yet but almost immediately I was getting bugs. That said in nature scenes everything seems pretty put together.
Simmed MSFS2024 for about 20 hrs now. Couldn't make it past the middle of this video. Had experienced ONE crash, and once the engine sound didn't load so I was flying as if with engine off. That's it. MSFS-2024 maybe ain't perfect but it's PRETTY DARN CLOSE and it is the best sim created to this day. Respect to the developers for creating a phenomenal product. But sure, haters gonna find things here and there to hate about it. Go get a job at Microsoft and make it better.
One of my first experiences was a career mode deliver mission, to reposition a Cessna 172. After the hour and half long flight I arrive at the destination only to find no airstrip because it is a seaplanes only base, leaving me no choice but to abort the mission.
The fact MS could pull the plug on FS2020 tomorrow to get people over to 2024 makes me even more upset at the whole situation. I am back on 2020 and X-Plane now and if MS do more of their BS I will be back on XP12 exclusively even of it means loss of eye candy , I can still get satellite imagery streaming in XP12 if I want to and for free. I have been playing flight sims since 1999 when I was still a kid and I am happy to see them get back into the mainstream but what MS/Asobo have done/are doing really sucks.
It's "trust us" Microsoft 101. Remember Windows 10 being called the last Windows version you will ever own? Just recently got a message saying "We are stopping support for Windows 10 this year". And "You cannot upgrade to 11, because your 2 year old MB doesn't support some back door entry where we want your data". I'm starting to regret buying this sim already. Patches seem to make it worse each time. It's now unplayable
@@ArcanePath360 I am happy I switched to linux 3 years ago :) last thing I want is a bunch of telemetry and intrusive corporate stuff in my OS not to mention possible ad's NO THANKS.
@ Yes as well as most add ons ! The only add on I have not managed to get working is the Fenix due to the weird external app it uses that uses some seriously ancient windows libraries to work. Also I have never had FS2020 crash during a flight on Linux not once even with all my add ons like the PMDG 737 and 777.
I so much miss the days when games were released in boxes on CD/DVD. With a proper, thick manual / player guide. And yes, I understand that it would be almoast impossible with the size of modern games, but now you can just release a game, make the players the beta-testers who pay you their own money to test your game and eventually patch it for years.
As someone who has been looking to drop coin on a new pc build to run this game I greatly appreciate reviews like this. I’ll wait until the game is worth it before building.
You are most welcome mate. And for sure I will be doing a re-review/update video at some point. I usually like to give it a year to be fair to see where are. Appreciate the comment and Merry Christmas!
I really don't understand how they managed to mess it up so hard. It's basically just a fs2020 update, nothing more. It's the exact same game with a different menu and a career mode, but somehow they managed to bring a thousand time more bugs then improvements in their 100$ update
@lars667 I wouldn't call it a new sim entirely. It is still heavily based on fs2020 and they had corrected must of the bug in 2020. Now we get airport with terminal missing, trees and buildings on runways, taxi ways and parking, runways as narrow as a bike path, an ATC that barely work, a career mode with no other plane flying or on the ground and the list goes on. It's so broken that I feel more like an Alpha tester than anything else
Oh, there's another city ( 14:13 -- Tokyo? ) with a random 800-900 ft. tree. There are 3 of these mutant trees in Philadelphia. 🙄 I flew 2024 last night, first time in 2 weeks and it's just so damn frustrating.
I found a really cool bug tonight, if you press SHIFT-C at the right time while crashing into the ground you can walk around and you will hear the copilot talking to ATC (if you have AI handling your atc). Not only that, if you hit TAB to bring up the tablet you can see your plane is actually flying around while you are on the ground. If you hit SHIFT-C to try and get back in the plane it will say you have crashed etc, and it starts you back in the air as it normally does.
Totally agree to everything you've highlighted. MSFS 2024 is the ultimate when it comes to graphic reality, no questions there. BUT, for serious Flight Simmers (who use it as a simulator & not a game), it's a NO GO! The fun of Flight Simming is to start and reach you destination with all the realism in a flight and no bugs. Yes...once in a while there could be a system glitch, but 98% of the time you should be able to complete your "full" flight without any system based issues.....that is what the goal is isn't it? That is what serious simmers want to achieve. I very reluctantly gave up on MSFS (being a loyal MS Flight Simulator user since the early 2000's) after a lot of issues in MSFS 2020, and for the 1st time tried X-Plane. You can't compare the graphics, but I get 100% satisfaction of completing every flight without having to worry about the system crashing or hanging etc, etc, etc. Now hooked on to X-Plane for the consistency.
Spot on! 100% agree with everything covered. I'm a now-handicapped snowboarder/musician who can't do either of those things anymore. I'm just a guy in a hospital bed playing through an Xbox controller. I only like flying the little putt-putt planes that give you lead poisoning from their fuel. But yes, I am one of those newcomers that an accessible sim makes it easy for me to virtual sightsee. I don't need to pretend to go looking for things since the photo mode is a thing. I've been cracking out the photograph animal missions. (Those darn African Elephants are elusive.) (Honestly I would never have picked up the flight sim's if it wasn't for 2020 having satellite imagery. I can follow the highways through Minnesota that I know and see the landmarks, oh there's where those funky trees are, Yup, they're there. Oh, here's where the 3 radio broadcast towers are, yup. Those are there too. Let's fly over to my local Menards home improvement store, or the Super Target I am banned from being on property for skateboarding through on their grand opening. lol, Yup even the big target sign is there.) I haven't encountered as many horrible bugs as others have come across. So, I'd give a 4 / 10 stars currently as well. Flaps in career mode while my DHC Beaver is sitting idle on the taxiway >_< What The Heck! Actually 3/10, those should've been patched in week 1 after release, 2024 is all about the career mode. Also, Career mode first company = freight. That's your money maker.
This happens when another online player is flying a helicopter and the game does wrong model matching by showing you a plane instead of a helicopter. This also happens in fs2020.
@@rafalrazmus that is an issue, but OP was referencing parked static aircraft sitting 6 feet off the ground. I've seen it myself in missions with multiplayer turned off
I dunno.. I've had days and days of fun with it. And of course there is room for improvement, which will inevitably happen. I guess some people have a bad faith attitude and can't wait to take it down. The days of a sim or game being a static release it once in a perfect state are long gone. Something like MSFS 2024 is just too complex for that. Of course they could've waited a bit longer and maybe fix some more bugs and prepare for a better release experience, but all in all I think MSFS 2024 provides an awesome experience in general. I can only speak from my own experience of course, and I've been having a blast with it. My last low and slow flight in the gyrocopter over Corsica in VR has been nothing but an amzing experience that I won't forget. I don't think any other sim can give me anything close to that.
You sound young and inexperienced, accepting of the industry in it's current state and defending it out of ignorance ( the actual definition - not a slander). YOU are the target audience while we old f*ks can't die soon enough for them.
People are going off about it as if games still have only 100 lines of code and everyone runs them on the exact same system. This is a massive and complex game, not Pong, and there will be countless PCs running it, none of them identical. Yeah, there are bugs. Of course there are. But the moaning about them is just embarrassing. At this point, anyone who buys a live service game on launch and expects no issues is a fool. Take the risk if you want, but don't moan when there are launch issues. Or wait to see what people moan about and then make a purchase decision.
Great video ! 😁👍 Hope they fix ground textures and photogrammetry because is some areas looks like shit.,On the replay sometimes the wheels on most of the airliners looks like they will disintegrating.,hope they fix the contrails too !
Exceptional as always. I tried for a week and only achieved a 96% load so gave up. Glad you are back Reggie, I did wonder why you were silent, hope the new home is all you wanted. Have a great Christmas and new year.
New home is fabulous mate! I’ve discovered if you leave your crap in boxes it acts as a wardrobe in itself! Appreciate the comment and yes, the dreaded load times are a killer for many. Really hoping they can get this to where it needs to be over the coming months. Cheers 🍻
Having to fight the Sim at every turn just to try to experience a nominal smooth flight starting cold and dark and ending cold and dark is a shame. Your review is spot on. Now we wait on pins and needles for every patch, update, hoping it fixes even basic stuff that a beta would have uncovered.
I purchased the premium package before release, hoping the hype would pay off. On the second day after release, I couldn't load into an aircraft at all. I returned my purchase thru Steam. Wiped my hands of it. I'll continue to enjoy MSFS2020 and X-Plane until they get their act together. Even if 2024 gets working in 2025, server streamed assets are going to be a hard sell to a PC simmer like me.
Server streamed assets are no problem and are the only way you will get these sort of details.....providing their servers are up to it, which they clearly aren't....
I bought it and am very disappointed it was released before it was finished. Love career mode but for me it is riddled with problems with graphics and aircraft. Even your pictures show at 04:46 & 06:14 show parked aircraft at least 6 feet in the air. Agree with all you say just hope they sort it out.
I remember sitting at my PS4 in late 2020 after starting to play Cyberpunk 2077 wondering wtf was going on and just seeing a product that had so much hype just be soooooooo bad. Had the same experience last month sitting on my Xbox series X playing MSFS 2024. At least with Cyberpunk, it was a new IP and trying to do new things while MSFS 2024 had a prior version that was excellent and the fact that it can’t even get 2020 things right (such as the mouse issues that all of us on Series X have experienced if we use a mouse). I’d be a little more understanding if it was the new innovative things (like career mode) that were a little bugged at launch but it’s the whole entire deal that is bugged.
Yes brother I fell in love with flight sim on my series s, Got gamepass to try 2024 and I was dissapointed with the xbox performance and bugs. I got it for PC and i have had less problems I just cant wait for this one to be ironed out, Im loving the sim
I just got back into flight simming after a nearly a decade and resurrected my FS2004 install, fully loaded with quality addons and half decent scenery enhancements. It is to this day the smoothest performing flight sim platform ever. No gimmickry whatsoever, just purely designed with the pedigreed aviation enthusiast in mind, with tons of quality study level aftermarket aircraft addons. I am using a $10 desktop PC I got from the thrift store, slapped in a RAM upgrade, spent $200 or so on peripherals, and I am a happy recluse in oblivion to what is current in the flight sim world. Being out of touch has resolved the anxiety which I user to suffer from in my past flight simming experience and I find I am actually enjoying it this time around!
They make home flight sims look much better than the ones professionals train on - Your comment is why MS flight Simulator has become a shadow of it's former self - can we fly using only a controller? Wait for the next version :P
The lunch is rough, but they fixed all the issues already. I mean, I have very few hardly any issues flying in clear mode or any other mode now, so it got fixed way quicker than cyberpunk did.
Due to MSFS being cloud based is a primary reason I did not buy the sim/game. I have XP12, though it lacks the eye candy, does not have the issues MSFS does. XP12 could use some optimalization, over all it is a solid sim. XP12 is a sim while MSFS is a game, two different worlds and both have their place though I do hope XP12 improves the scenery.
Stumbled upon your channel for the first time today. At last an honest 2024 review. All the others youtubers tell half the story at best so as not to put all their free addons they get at risk!!!!
Real pilot here. I like and use MSFS 2020 but by far the best sim for real pilots is X-plane. Why? You can easily set up your weather exactly how you want it. You can create your own panel exactly how your plane is set up. You can drop your plane exactly anywhere you want to. Real pilots want to set up a scenario to practice, with the same equipment they will use in the air. Not being able to pick my own panel really ticks me off. Yes the graphics are much better on the MS version. That is about it.
I have yet to even see the flight to crash. On either my PC or Xbox and as far as the helicopter flipping upside down or passenger appearing outside, I have never seen that bug at all in several hundred hours of flying with the sim already.
i saw some lunatic say this about msfs 2024 "oh another person who just complains. Bet you also were the type that was complaining how long it's been taking to release it. 2020 wasn't that great in the beginning either. You expect a working product on day one. Gtfo"
I just tried it again today after leaving it for a couple of weeks due to the frustration. It seems to have improved after the latest patch. There's definitely a lot of bugs still, it really shouldn't have been released in that condition, or at least Asobo should've been more transparent and honest about its condition so buyers could be informed. But despite the UI bugs in VR, I still had a very smooth and enjoyable flight in career mode. I think there's hope for it yet 🙂🤞
WAB is one of my go to channels too. Excellent reviewer and whilst I don’t agree with absolutely everything he says, his honesty is what counts most. Appreciate the sub mate, you’re in good company!
I can get the graphics in FS2020 to look just as good as in FS2024 using the NVidia filters. So I will stick with FS2020 as its now stable and a joy to use.
Thank you, comments like this make the effort worthwhile! Honestly, when I started this channel two year back I always said to myself “imagine if I got 10k subs, wouldn’t that be crazy”. And I’m almost there…. Anything else is a bonus for me. Appreciate your support mate, cheers 🍻
The most shambolic thing is the extremely slow roll out of purchased stuff on the marketplace from 2020. I've heard from sources that the sim was all good to go, everything ported over to the new sim, everything was working fine, until a Massive game breaking bug was founded just days prior to the launch, which required everything be chucked off and started again. This restart process only begun, after we got our mits on the game. I understand a release is not possible in January due to everyone recuperating from Christmas, but a rollback to Feb/March was definitely required.
Welcome to our growing gang mate, appreciate your support. I’ve watched and read quite a lot of reviews and I started to wonder if it was just me with issues. Reading these comments has restored my faith in the gaming population. Cheers to you 🍻
VR is definitely smoother, but not being able to interact with the pop up EFB is pretty poor, they need to fix that as a priority (as not all planes have a built in EFB). I've also experienced very poor ground textures in mountains and other areas that looked so much better in 2020, seems to be a LOD issue that has not yet been addressed - either that or I've done something stupid in my settings thats not apparent.
Same I'm using pimax crystal and love it....currently on an around the whole world flight....left uphaven 4 days ago....currently in Iceland....next flight will be Reykjavik to northern Canada then south all the way to south America then on to Antarctica 😊👊
@@cockneygamer VR is very broken too with massive bugs that still go unfixed, performance is also worse than MSFS2020. If you read the official forums you'll find a lot of very annoyed VR users who feel let down by this release, me included.
Microsoft would probably be better off advertising all the faults as "easter eggs" for which you receive a prize for each one you report. If reported bugs were dollars, I could be a millionaire.
💯 mate. Everything what you said. FS24 is one big con job in its current form. Asobo/ MS did an excellent job in hoodwinking all the influencers in Las Vegas. Some simmers should get together and file a class action lawsuit in the US for defective product. That's the only way they will learn.
"Textures can't bothered to load" ... well yeah thats asset streaming for ya thanks to all the casual normies crying about larger install sizes in MSFS2020, now with 24 sure install is smaller but your fully dependent on cloud streaming.
Very kind of you to say mate. I always wanted a channel that gave honest reviews but had some banter thrown in along the way, especially when reviewing these simulator style games. Appreciate you commenting, cheers 🍻
I gotta admit, you got my hackles up attacking MSFS 2024 like that, but you discussed and proved each point masterfully. Well done! This review will never be outdated.
My msfs 20 is uninstalled. Only runnig 24 now. Sure the game needs lots of improvement but it's so far a much better game than it's predecessor. I don't give a damn shit about carrier mode. I play mostly general aviation vfr, helicopter. So no big issue for me. Some remarquable planes are included. The chinook, the beaver dhc-2, and some others. But i must complain about planes. I have the premium edition. Too many planes are bad quality, bugged or even unplayable. And i would like to play missions without the need of the carrier mode.
"I never beat my wife, so domestic violence is not a problem". Just stop it. M$F$ 2024 looks better than it's predecessor. It doesn't function better. It's a pile of shit wrapped in nice packaging.
Good honest review! nice one. I was sold on the largest version but managed to get it for 120 quid on a cheap key site but i have never been so mistaken on my choice of purchase since Star Citizen EA launch. I have faith that this will fix over time but in any case if we are being the testers then they should have sold it as an EA release with more realistic pricing.
How the hell can they expect me to pay full price when MS never paid me a single cent to beta test their 2020 version of the same sim? It's taken Asobo what, like 3+ years to finalize 2020? No thanks MS. I'll wait at least a year before I decide whether to buy 2024 or not. @10:05, wait a minute. Is this for real?
2020 still isn't complete. The 78 STILL doesn't have ground effect, still flies like trash, there are still random holes in the scenery... Basically the problems that are plaguing 2024 are still plaguing 2020... Which is comical that people are so staunch on defending 2024. Who thinks encrypting liveries is a good idea? Asobo / Microsoft realized they could charge playstation with extra steps (Xbox) users for liveries that are free on PC... I'm betting they want to make liveries payware (let's be real, asobo promising "once marketplace comes you can use liveries" is as trustworthy as their years of empty promises already)
IMO, the biggest issue with this sim, as with 2020 to a point, is that they're created by developers who are gamers, and not developers who are simmers!
We definitely need the option to download as much as the game as we need. I don't want to stream just to get the most recent scenery. I read a download the most recent. There are many ways to do this.
"unbelievably lazy" MY BROTHER IN CHRIST YOU HAVE HINDREDS OF AIRCRAFT, GRAPHICS BETTER THAN REAL LIFE AND THE WHOLE WORLD TO EXPLORE AND YOURE CALLING THEM LAZY?!? IM LUCKY TO EVEN GET A FLIGHT SIM WITH THE WHOLE WORLD, LET ALONE GOOD GRAPHICS. GOD
I think the major issue is the fact you have to stream everything like Netflix. I have a gig connection and the loading times are pathetic. Give me the option to install what I want on my pc, even if I want to use 2TB and more.
@@ivanfojan8859 Yes I am aware of that, but you forgot FS always let you install the area you wish to fly in. Me personally I would just install Florida and stream anything else..
I cannot disagree with him at all he is absolutely correct. I dropped $199 for the aviator edition. and I was expecting the starting point would be at the pinnacle of FS2020 and then go forward from there. sadly we got otherwise. I still think they were trying to meet their launch deadline as opposed to having a polished product. anyway good review. I'm already all in, with the amount of money I paid for the SIM. So all I can do is hopefully the product will get better overtime.
15:00 sound - I would agree in cockpit, sounds are good, but outside, hearing planes flying over, in drone view, sounds are still weird rumbly messes. Weird ambient reverb and delay applied to everything that's more than 200ft away, everything sounds super rumbly, planes don't sound much like planes, they don't even bother to add the sounds of planes in the distance flying around like from real life recordings, to bring atmosphere, call of duty does a better job at that, the doppler effect sucks, propeller planes sound like rattling metal when you get more than 300 meters away... Its not good
Haha, loved the excellent commentary. This tuber is king of snarky simile for sure. Subbed. I'm sitting on v2020 until the mess gets sorted. Gotta master this sim with the new VR goggles first, anyway.
This is weirdly pretty comparable to the release of Overwatch 2. Overwatch released in 2016, had many updates which started to slow down dramatically in 2019 after suddenly they announced OW2. They claimed they would add more maps, a PvE story mode, and a ton more stuff so people bought the idea. But instead of continuing to add stuff to the first game before it released they just completely stopped with updates for 3 years before OW2 then released in 2022, with literally nothing that was promised, it’s essentially just a free version of OW1 clearly released just to please the publisher and make more money since the first game had been out for a while. This is literally the same case, why not just add all this new stuff to the 2020 version? They don’t actually add that much here to warrant the new release. Instead they were probably forced to rush the release for profits lol.
I must say, the park in North Bergen, NJ looks stunning! You flew right over my house at 11:24 😂 Unfortunately, I bought the PD Steelbook edittion from Best Buy, and like an excited kid on x-mas morning, I stupidly opened the box, before watching RUclips reviews. Oh well, I'll wait a year or so before I bother installing it. Thanks for the honest review and score. As someone who loves this hobby since I was a teen, played every version since Bruce Artwick produced SubLogic FS, I couldn't agree more with your assessment.
I’m on the Aviator edition so fear not, there is plenty of us! And yes, you’re spot on, game can just look mind blowing at times. The potential is all there. But man alive is it a mess right now. Thanks for commenting mate, appreciate it.
The fact that at 6:13 several parked aircraft are hovering a couple of metres off the ground kinda drives home how much of a mess this is at the moment...
FS2020 plus PMDG 737 or Fenix 320 plus GSX plus a set of handcrafted airports with proper GSX profiles plus FSLTL is the closest you can get to experiencing flying a jetliner on a (reasonably powerful) PC. Enough said.
I am thinking of getting into flight simulation. As it stands right now, I would not touch MSFS 2024 with a ten-foot pole. I would probably go with X Plane 12 and/or MSFS 2020.
Whatever you do, make sure you try it! It’s genuinely a fantastic hobby within a hobby. XPlane was great but for my money msfs2020 is probably the best start right now.
@@peterlazuric5641 I think that's a wise choice. FS24 has potential, it will be a good sim eventually, but I definitely wouldn't recommend it as your first simulator in its present state.
XPlane if you want flight physics and proper aircraft handling. Ms2020 if you want eye candy. 2020 has okay flight physics (better than fsx) but nowhere near realistic enough to compete with XPlane. Myself and a couple of my friends (all pilots) love MSFS but the aircraft handling and the AI scenery generation make it comical. Hangars which house a single Cessna tall enough to put a 747. Lights and signs on taxiways. Floating lights at some airports (street lights. Not even airport lights). If you want a 'first sim' experience, go Microsoft. If you want realism without the eye candy, go xplane. Keep in mind though, if you have MSFS, Microsoft can pull the plug when they want as it's live service. XPlane is one you will have forever
@@raymarshall6721 Thank for your reply and I have been hearing the same thing you said from others. I would prefer the realism of X Plane 12. The Airfoil Cessna 172 ng digital is one nice sim to learn I think.
I'm from Scotland born and bred, but half my blood is cockney as my dad was born and bred in Bethnal Green. Love your video. Brilliant. Couldn't have said it better myself. Please, please send this to Asobo, Microsoft AND Inibuilds. Subscribed.
I am an old X plane veteran who is getting tired of playing X plane 12, so I thought about diving into the world of MSFS. But after this video I might stay with my game... I also started gliding so for me the physics simulation is a top priority and X plane is doing a better job I believe.
100% correct & agree with your conclusions. I’ve been with XP11&12 for a good few years but was looking forward to 2024 so much. + it was my main Xmas present. I’m writing this comment on the 8th of Jan after 7 days of trying to get this sim operating to an acceptable level. Yesterday was the first time I managed to complete any flight using default aircraft (Citation Longitude). After flight 1 in the UK (with bugs) I tried another from Las Vegas to Grand Canyon in the belief that these 2 airports, on MS home turf & popular locations, would be a good test. What a joke! Taxying out I found a very steep hill in the taxyway at the end of the 01 runways - so steep my aircraft nearly slid down the hill !! GA aircraft parked to the right of the taxyway were on a 30 degree slope! Then at Grand Canyon there were deer/moose running around the GA parking area - what!!! So today I’m weighing up whether to abandon 2024 ??? Such a shame & waste of money. I’m not prepared to be an unpaid Beta Tester. This product is so bad it should be withdrawn from sale immediately & free access to 2020 given to 2024 customers. MS2024 is not fit for purpose! QED.
I elected to not purchase the pre-order and wait and see, my concern was the permanent online streaming requirement , I recall saying after yet another one of their SU fails early in the year how I suspect is they dont sort this server issue out for 2024 it will be the biggest launch fail in PC gaming, and it tears me up knowing I was right on the money... I am enjoying 2020 and plan to continue indefinitely, if by some miracle its all dandy in 12 months I may jump in but its unlikely fixable in my opinion..
Don't get too comfy with 2020. Don't forget Microsoft can pull the plug today. Once they pull the plug, you can't even launch it because "live service". Not enough people were vocal enough with 2020 being live service online only to keep Microsoft in line. Now that the Xbox kids gave them validation, 2024 is even more dependent.
Microsoft did the right thing releasing MS24 as it was. They figure only sim flyers around the world could find the bugs and issues that need to be fixed. Flight Simulator 2024, being so complex and sophisticated, will be perfected over time.
What's so different I got a refund the difference Is very small it seems no lessons have been learned from 2020 . My updated scenery is the same in 2020.
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A couple of things my fellow Cockney chums:
1) Sorry for being out for so long with no uploads. Stupidly I decided to move home a few weeks before Christmas, meaning my PC has been in a box for a while! Good news is I'm up and running again so hoping for more content shortly!
2) Auto HDR on Windows caused a few recording issues here - either its blown out in color or very dull looking. My bad for that, I will work on a fix.
3) We need to stop making excuses for games companies. Asobo royally screwed up and the review score reflects that, and that's coming from the biggest fan of theirs. It's pathetic on their part to release the game in this current state.
More videos to follow and as always love your support and comments. Love Reggie xxx
Thanks. Fair and funny. ;)
After spending hours trying to configure my Turtle Beach Yoke which the software didn't recognise I finally took off from my home airport in Vancouver I flew over downtown Vancouver and I was met with 900ft trees in the middle of downtown bigger than the hirises the graphics were abysmal I tried London same thing again with cars driving under the bridges !!....its a joke so I asked for a refund and got it!...I'll stick with MS2020 thank you .
Is that comment only applicable to people with London accents ?
@@stonkez8452 full disclosure, I’m actually born and bred Essex (Southend to be exact!).
3 - absolutely!
Finally, a RUclipsr who calls out this shit, I too am sick of these games released 2 years too early. And kudos for not being a white knight like all the other flight sim so called youtubers.
Appreciate it mate… I don’t like calling out other channels by name. They are more successful, bigger and simply better at editing than I am… but for sure they aren’t calling it like it is
@@cockneygamer There's more than a few, unfortunately. I won't call out any, they already know who they are 😉
those white knight youtubers were entertained by microsobo before the release launch. that’s why they don’t critisize it.
@@g_pazzini You are very likely right. Too bad (meaning, my fault) for 'listening' to many of them and choosing to even pre-purchase a FlightSim which I even did not need in the first place... My bad, in fact. I got the Aviator version and managed to start it and try a simple flight only a couple of days ago. Reason (for no CTD and working past the initial setup process this time): unknown. I was expecting something awesome, while in fact I found an alpha release… But again, my bad.
I wonder what kind of game you expect when you think it's 2 years too early? Like, in it's current state, it's working pretty much as expected for me. Yes it has bugs like the weird career mode progression etc, but that's like balancing issues in a shooter game. The whole cloud streaming thing works pretty well by now. And what else is there that we should expect from a flight sim? Yes, the 737max behaves like a 737ng, but default aircraft in a flightsim usually don't behave like anything that exists in reality, so I'd consider that still a pretty good aircraft.
I did not buy for a few major reasons. The big one is it's mostly cloud based and I already did not like 2020 streaming in scenery. It took the 3 years to fix the premium deluxe aircraft in 2020 and if not for working title it would have never been fixed. The next reason was it was not big enough upgrade from 2020 which I already invested a lot into.
I appreciate someone that is not a shill calling them out on the BS.
Appreciate it mate. All very fair points.
Sadly I wanted to see some major big channels calling them out but I’ve not seen it yet. So we keep up the good fight and just keep it real here.
Appreciate the comment, cheers 🍻
@@cockneygamer It's why I like your channel. I've been subbed for a good while now and honestly you are one of my favorites on game reviews.
@@OperationDx1 love to hear it mate. These videos take a lot of my spare time up, many many hours to edit and get the footage (and of course okay that actual game!). You do sometimes wonder if it’s worth it, so when I read comments like this it really does mean the world to me. Appreciate your support so much.
@@cockneygamer I know exactly. I used to do the RUclips thing. I enjoyed it for a good long while. But it was sucking the life out of me and made gaming less fun. So I have a respect for those who do it and are honest.
They all want to "maintain access"
Thanks for your honest and witty review. I might add that it is perhaps even worse on Xbox - at least on PC you have some options to tweak and workaround. Xbox - nada. And when trying to get settngs as desired it quickly starts degrading performance or crashes entirely. Controller setup has been almost completely changed/effed up from 2020 - why? Why no option to keep as was or an option to import them? Why do I need to go through all mappings manually to relearn to use new controller inputs? And why then, if I try to change even one single setting for the controller it crashes every single time? Not to mention the plethora of graphical errors present, entire airports missing all buildings (Copenhagen, my home town, and a rather large airport at that), huge chunks of surface graphics never loading properly, planes acting erratically or not at all, parts missing, canopies missing, instrumentation missing, instrumentation not responding when actually there, UI messed up, crashing or just not responding for "simple" users like myself, unreliable and erratic autopilot, non functioning simple controls in airplanes, I could go on an on. And on. I was really getting into flying this past year, even considering investing in proper gear. Not anymore. The huge disappointment and frustration of 2024 has turned me off flying to a degree where I really don't enjoy it at all, not even in 2020 where most things at least work most of the time. It has soured so much I regret even buying the Xbox X - I bought it to play MSFS in the first place - and as soon as I finish another game I play, my Gamepass Ultimate subscription will go as well. It is as if 2024 running on Xbox has lowest priority, an afterthought at best. It is precisely as you say, we are paying to beta test. I am on a superfast fiber connection with enough bandwidth for at least 10 households but even with all other equipment off my network entirely and the connection entirely dedicated to the Xbox it still does not work even halfway. Sorry, had to vent somewhere - there aren't many reviews or the like out there re. Xbox users of 2024.
Great points mate and yes, I’ve read a lot of Reddit posts saying how on Xbox it’s even worse. A real shame that because the console is capable of playing the game, but what they produced is just terrible all around. Thanks for commenting and sharing your story, cheers 🍻
Go off brother we love it we need more people highlighting how buggy the game is.
14:14 - Damn! That huge tree by the river... is that Yggdrasil?
One at 1:18 too, lol
Way too common. There's like 5 in Tokyo alone. Any largish city has at least one.
@@theMedicatedCitizen Same one at a different time of day.
Must be a Pandora add-on 😂
Will be amazing in about 2 years
Which is where I'll come in.
They will release MSFS-2028 before this junk is fixed! Do not forget what this is all about, M$$$$$$$$$$$$$$!!!
X-Plane starting to look a bit better...
MSFS 2020 is 4 years old already, but still has runway edge lights in the middle of taxiways at the entries of runways . It doesn't look right when we run over the lights to enter the runways .
Like nuclear fusion is 30 years away? 😂
The fact that when you do a career mission and your head is sticking out of the top of the plane and your passenger is hanging under the plane is a travesty for a billion dollar company to put this out just to make some cash by the end of the year. They basically are saying we have no respect for our customers and we will fix these issues when we get to it
I've had the exact same issue with my head sticking out the roof and a passenger head for a landing gear
@@Mat0305 Passenger head for a landing gear, Spirit?
True. Though I do place a little blame on the pre-order crowd. If we all waited to see what it was really like then that would have sent a better message. They have people's money now (not mine thankfully) so f**k em.
It's a shame that the gaming industry has come to such a place but again... the pre ordering people allowed it to be this way.
Microsoft spent more on reviews, bot comments, and promo events than the actual development of this sim 😂.
Sadly accurate, the marketing budget exceed the development budget.
@@robainscough do you have any numbers to substantiate this claim?
@macclesfieldman are you asleep?
@@macclesfieldman Yes I do, but it seems YT removed my post because it had a link to those "numbers".
@@truth1011985 no. I just want proof of a claim on the internet. Quite simple tbh
Like someone said on Reddit, nobody asked for FS 2024. They could have gone for 2 or 3 more years to properly give it shape, all the while improving FS 2020.
But Asobo needed their paycheck, and Microsoft needed a new shiny toy to put on the Game Pass shelf.
It runs way worst than 2020 while not being that much of a graphical upgrade, and they totally butchered the game with those ridiculous AI voices.
I mean, even something as low effort as recording voices wasn't in their plan... Heck, they could have asked John or Olivia from the marketing department to record them in exchange of a free cupcake, it would have been way better.
Not mentionning the addition of helicopters and hot air balloons, which is a fun idea... But you do that when the heart of the game, the fixed wings aircrafts, is functionning decently.
And of course, kudos for the dumbo at Asobo and/or Microsoft for going full streaming, in a day and age where storage is getting cheaper and cheaper.
Yeah I can't believe how bad the voices are. They just couldn't be bothered to spend $500 on voice actors. Fucking infuriating. Well that and everything else
Helicopters were already implemented in 2020, they are nothing new for 2024. There's even a 3rd party hot air balloon on the marketplace.
2024 runs a lot better for me than 2020. Finally a smooth flying experience while in 2020 was always fighting with settings and still getting jittery experiences
Recording voices is "low effort" to you? All those languages, thousands of lines, each by many different actors etc. Remember, this isn't Call of Duty where you basically play through a movie. Imagine they had actually paid for that...we'd all be sitting here going "why in the f*ing world did they spend our money on voice actors???? Just give us some better planes, Jesus!"
@@josetjr109everything runs better on flat screen, man. It’s when you up the ante with triple screens, and most importantly, VR, that you see the issues with streaming. Think about it, streaming turns all of our top notch tech into an Xbox Series X, which means that they will run the assets at the lowest denominator of available tech. This sim was designed around the console. Heck, that interface, so you need to think hard about it? I can tell that they are streaming at lower resolution than available because VR is the way to tell. And 2020 is amazing at max settings in VR, while I can’t even stand looking at jagged cockpits, especially in non Asobo planes. They are years behind in cleaning this like of garbage up. You can’t get on a forum and tout your experience with this sim on a flat screen. Heck, my 3080 runs this sim quite well on flat screen on 1440P. No complaints there. But VR is the way to go, friend. Trust me on that.
They put out a game two years to soon. 2024 is not finished, and they overdid the hype. They did the usual by letting the player find the problems so they can fix it, which is a piss poor attitude towards their customers.
If MSFS2024 ever becomes playable, and I buy it, I will then take a MiG-29, paint it in the colors of Big Jet, climb aboard it and fly it towards the Microsoft Headquarters for the ultimate showdown for the ages (all in the video game, of course).
It’s disappointing because some of the bugs are game breaking. It will be fixed and it’s on Game-pass so it’s not the end of the world.
The real issue here isn't just the release date-it's that they simply don’t have a clue what they’re doing. Take a look at their choice of single-threading in 2020, which, in hindsight, was a poor decision. Now, they’ve finally switched to multi-threading, which is the right move, but then they made the whole thing cloud-based. On top of that, they’ve added so much stuff into the sim that simmers aren’t even asking for, and much of it is likely to cause further issues and bugs. This clearly shows they don’t understand what they’re doing. The game won’t meaningfully improve in two years with this approach-it needs a complete overhaul from a developer who knows how to create a high-performance simulation that runs as smoothly as butter.
Asobo is a game company, not a sim company, and that’s where the problem lies. I don’t want game gimmicks in my simulator. I just want to fly and enjoy a realistic experience, free of bugs, hiccups, stutters, and crashes. They’ve missed the chance to make this a success because they clearly don’t understand what simming is all about.
In my opinion, sims shouldn’t have “gameplay” at all. At the very least, they could have separated it-one version for those who want a gaming experience and another for those who want a pure, nonsense-free simulator. Cutting out unnecessary content would reduce bugs, minimize data load, and create a more reliable experience overall.
Good on you mate! First you tuber with a proper pair that sums up exactly how it is. Bloody well done!
Too kind mate, treating people like adults is all that we want right? If only game developers could see that! Cheers 🍻
Why do people always say that when they find the one youtuber who says something negative??
I saw someone say the same thing on a negative review of Half Life Alyx. just a really dumb take.
@@Dreadpirateflappycuz in the age of shilling, negatively reviewing games usually means honestly, but in this case this isn’t the first one (jayz2cents) to give the devs of this game a kick in the butt they deserve. He’s right though there’s a ton of bugs in this game, even if it’s pretty and runs well. I haven’t heard anything of the sort of any Half Life game.
@@Dreadpirateflappy Yes - agreed... Dumb indeed... No doubt a console guy. I wonder if this guy bought FS2020 on Day One. Lol.
all assets are serverside? I know why they did that, it's so when the new game comes out, they can force your game to be unplayable instantly. You'll never have nostalgia again
hey goat
Not unlike buying a game on DVD and as soon as you shove it in, the entire game needs to download from the server to "get the latest patches".
@@biffhenderson1144 kinda sorta, but you can store it, and some data hoarders tend to keep them, then share them much later on (I used to be like that, never delete things and had a pile of drives from as far back as the 90s)
They did it because the download would be three petabytes
@@TheGadgetbadger I understand the world size issues, but they're locking everything behind servers. I also bet you that they haven't even attempted file size optimisation
why are people so sure that it's a bad thing? because it's expensive to constantly have people download the same thing over and over again without local caching. So why do it? because they can say "it's too expensive to keep the servers running" when their next game comes out. This is easing us inch by inch into the idea of games as a service, and you own nothing
I'll give FS2024 one thing, for a "flight simulator", it sure does an awesome job of simulating giraffes and deer. The truth is MSFS2024 is an utter bug-ridden disgrace. From the disastrous launch, when they should have known about server loads, to the hundreds and hundreds of bugs in the program. Airports missing terminals, entire airports missing, airborne jetways, aircraft with wings missing, avatars hanging upside down out of flying aircraft, blurry terrain, CTDs etc etc. It's utterly pathetic. They rushed it out and they knew it wasn't ready. It's going to take at least a full year before it's even close to fixed, if ever. If you're wondering who the beta testers are, it's the people who bought this joke of a program. I got a refund as I won't reward their incompetence and I won't pay for the privilege of being a beta-tester.
Lol! There are Heathen flowers on a stupid hill in England, the guy was in awe, he should leave this simulation hobby..
You guys on Xbox because I’m on PC and it’s great for me. They fixed the floating jetways, everything looks sharp and clear and performance is smooth on ultra. With just flight traffic full ai traffic and beyondATC. To me it surpassed msfs20. I can finally flight anywhere with stupid stutters on arrival at heavy scenery and flight model is much better too.
@@highaltitude787Oh….PC still has its problems.
@@johnjacobsen4003msfs 2024 absolutely perfect for me. Buy a new pc ya nonce 😂😂
@@highaltitude787 i'm with you on that for sure... is FS24 100% bug free? no.. is it performing better than FS20 while looking better and also shipping with more features? Hell yea!
14:15 glad to see we still have Avatar sized trees being generated
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Lol seen that in Vancouver bc 🤣 and thats what came to mind avatar
"More cock-ups than a Riley Reid compilation" had me in tears 🤣
Another fellow man of culture!
Perfect summary. It had all the right ingredients for an amazing soup, but Microsoft continually lace it with Sulphuric Acid at every turn. Got tired of it, moved back to X-Plane, not as pretty, but it works, stores the world locally, and flies far better. Disgusting work Asobo and Microsoft, absolutely no morals what so ever releasing such a total mess. I've said this on a few comments now, but, the reality here is Microsoft have pandered to the masses with a visual "Terrain Simulator", an entertainment product at best (though its hardly entertaining) where X-Plane delivers an actual "Flight Simulator", a tool to do a job, which it does very well indeed.
Thanks for that. I've been contemplating shifting from X-Plane to FS2024. I'm an Apple user, so that would have meant a significant cost either with a hardware change or Xbox Game Pass Ultimate subscription. Now I think I'll stay put and wait for MS to get their act together!
I flew FSX all the way into last year. I took a long hard look at both 2020 and XP and, based on the myriad of stories regarding the difficulty in installing 2020 and the requirement to be connected to the Internet at all times, I opted to try XP12. I downloaded the demo and it was a no-brainer. I installed the whole thing in 30 minute with no problem. Mapped my controllers in five minutes and went flying. Was totally impressed by the flying and the visuals. One single commercial transaction, no login. This is the difference between a large company with a portfolio of products across multiple platforms with integrated marketing and a small company devoted to a single dream. XP12 works as advertised.
That was the funniest review I've watched in a long time. You've turned this shambolic mess into pure comedy. You've got a new follower.
Welcome to our growing gang! Really appreciate your support, glad the video hit the mark. Merry Christmas!
Bugs can be fixed, but the low footprint streaming issue is a real problem for me as I can't get a connection over 30Mbps
I got 200Mbps and it still doesent load the textures Right….
It's not just Asobo. Game developers have been doing this for a while now. Put it on the market broken, take the money, let the gamers be the proof testers. It's not fair at all. They pushed to get this sim out on the market before the end of the year. Otherwise they would have had to change the name to FS2025. If I buy a brand new car I should be able to start it up and drive it away! That is not what happened with this sim, and I'm so glad I didn't run right out and buy it. I'm going to wait until mid 2025 before I buy it, and it damn well better be ALL fixed by then!
Yeah, true. We had to wait about a week until we could drive off in our...60-220€ car. With no real need for that car in that time anyways. And the car will run for 4 years, so really we should be refunded 1/(52*4)*220€ = 1€ as an aviators edition customer.
‘Cloud based’ is the death knell of this sim.
Do you want to have 1.5 terabytes on your PC? I don't think so.
@@AndrePereira-tw5vsfor dedicated simmer’s that’s not a problem - they’ll just buy a 4TB ssd and call it good - at least make it optional, don’t have the space, stream it, if you do, store it.
Not sure it's a death kneel, for some reason these people think that everyone has broadband internet that is unlimited. How many peope actually download all those regions and cities and buy all those airplanes and globe hop? I find myself with a few planes and flying in my region and it doesn't take all that much space, but the upgraded base sim does and has grown enormously.
@@RealMrStoofus I think he meant 1.5 Petabytes and he's wrong, the world data is 2 Petabytes.....good luck with getting that much storage....
@@AndrePereira-tw5vs Petabytes, not Terabytes mate....
I've said it before and I'll say it again, they should have either pushed the launch back to 2025 and announced that the sim simply wasn't ready yet, or they should have marketed the game as early access. I had previously tried to give them the benefit of the doubt that maybe the studio was under pressure from higher ups in the company to push the sim out by a specific date, but honestly, your point about them possibly taking advantage of their customers and covertly using a buggy launch as free labor beta testing is... compelling.
I'm betting Microsoft was the ones who gave the ultimatum. They did the same with MSFS, launched when it wasn't ready, had a horrible launch overall, and 4 years later the same problems exist. Now look at 2024 with Microsoft being the publisher and who's name is on it... Over 2x more cost for the best package, horrible launch, same problems in 24 that still reside in 2020.... It was Microsoft who bent everyone (even asobo) over.
It almost always comes down to development cost. I'm sure the same thing that happened to KSP 2 happened here. Didn't use the same engineers from the previous project. Couldn't create working tech in time for the deadline. Budget went over thus requiring to ship to market to make back something before going broke.
This is why Rockstar has such a good reputation and make more money in the long term, they don't release games until they are fully sorted.
This is now the standard release formula for most major game companies it seems (think CD Project Red with CyberPunk):
1. Use internal metric targets and investor goals to set release schedule, taking advantage of the holiday season and goodwill towards previous game.
2. Release game to meet schedule at any cost regardless of quality of the release. Great sales due to marketing hype and goodwill.
3. Top management apologies profusely for broken release and hopes to do better next time.
4. A patch released early in Dec to deal with low hanging fruit. No more patches until end of vacation season.
5. Upper management/executives get great salary hikes and end-of-year bonuses for releasing game on time as per market schedule & hitting sales targets.
6. Devs slogging thru next year to squash bugs, along with a healthy does of vitriol and harassment from community.
7. What's wrong with the above? Life is hard and running a business with pissy and lazy devz is nearly impossible. Money needs to be collected. Bugs should not be there, but they don't always jump out until it's in the wild. You can't have the incredible games we enjoy without major investors, and they deserve the quickest return possible.
Why do investors deserve the quickest return possible? Seems like they just want a 10% return on their money, wouldn't everybody. MSFS has been around for 40 years and the cessna had inoperative buttons and switches. The GPS for the planes didnt work until 3rd party took that issue on and still not sure it is fully functional as the counter part.
GTA 6 will be the real test. If RockStar pulls this BS, the gaming industry is doomed.
@@microdesigns2000short term greed over long term profit and success. That’s the problem you plonk.
@@snarkywombat155 you must be pretty young if you must name-call to win an argument. Expecting a return on time is responsible, not greedy.
I've played a fair amount of flight sim 2024 and have only encountered a few small bugs, nothing that affected me in a major way, but this video is absolutely needed. Asobo need to be held accountable for what they put out, and this is exactly the kind of critical feedback they need to hear and listen to.
Amen
I get cruise ships merging into everything at any city with water enough for boats. Not sure if they patched it yet but almost immediately I was getting bugs. That said in nature scenes everything seems pretty put together.
That commentary was very well written and delivered. I'll be waiting this one out until it's better. Thanks.
Simmed MSFS2024 for about 20 hrs now. Couldn't make it past the middle of this video. Had experienced ONE crash, and once the engine sound didn't load so I was flying as if with engine off. That's it.
MSFS-2024 maybe ain't perfect but it's PRETTY DARN CLOSE and it is the best sim created to this day. Respect to the developers for creating a phenomenal product. But sure, haters gonna find things here and there to hate about it.
Go get a job at Microsoft and make it better.
Considering the endless bugs that persist I'm not jumping in, I'll let the fanboys sort it out first at their expense, thanks for exposing this scam
One of my first experiences was a career mode deliver mission, to reposition a Cessna 172. After the hour and half long flight I arrive at the destination only to find no airstrip because it is a seaplanes only base, leaving me no choice but to abort the mission.
FS24 is currently not worth the effort. So frustrating!
For me its worth every dollar I spend on Premium Deluxe. I have alot of fun in career mode and would buy again.
The fact MS could pull the plug on FS2020 tomorrow to get people over to 2024 makes me even more upset at the whole situation. I am back on 2020 and X-Plane now and if MS do more of their BS I will be back on XP12 exclusively even of it means loss of eye candy , I can still get satellite imagery streaming in XP12 if I want to and for free. I have been playing flight sims since 1999 when I was still a kid and I am happy to see them get back into the mainstream but what MS/Asobo have done/are doing really sucks.
It's "trust us" Microsoft 101. Remember Windows 10 being called the last Windows version you will ever own? Just recently got a message saying "We are stopping support for Windows 10 this year". And "You cannot upgrade to 11, because your 2 year old MB doesn't support some back door entry where we want your data".
I'm starting to regret buying this sim already. Patches seem to make it worse each time. It's now unplayable
@@ArcanePath360 I am happy I switched to linux 3 years ago :) last thing I want is a bunch of telemetry and intrusive corporate stuff in my OS not to mention possible ad's NO THANKS.
@@XavierLignieres Can you run MSFS2020 on Linux?
@ Yes as well as most add ons ! The only add on I have not managed to get working is the Fenix due to the weird external app it uses that uses some seriously ancient windows libraries to work. Also I have never had FS2020 crash during a flight on Linux not once even with all my add ons like the PMDG 737 and 777.
@@ArcanePath360 Technically they weren't wrong. They're upfront about Win 11 being *their* OS on your metal.
I so much miss the days when games were released in boxes on CD/DVD. With a proper, thick manual / player guide. And yes, I understand that it would be almoast impossible with the size of modern games, but now you can just release a game, make the players the beta-testers who pay you their own money to test your game and eventually patch it for years.
You know, I actually wanted to do a video on games manuals in general. Just the nostalgia behind them. What a time.
Your honesty is to be applauded, but that was the funniest review I have seen in ages. Thanks and well done!
You are most welcome mate, glad it hit the right note for you. And Merry Christmas!
14:20 Is that tree on the right bigger than the skyscrapers? lol.
Yeah there are other places that have them.
@@b1lleman Thats global warming for you.
well spotted 🏆
As someone who has been looking to drop coin on a new pc build to run this game I greatly appreciate reviews like this. I’ll wait until the game is worth it before building.
You are most welcome mate. And for sure I will be doing a re-review/update video at some point. I usually like to give it a year to be fair to see where are. Appreciate the comment and Merry Christmas!
I really don't understand how they managed to mess it up so hard. It's basically just a fs2020 update, nothing more. It's the exact same game with a different menu and a career mode, but somehow they managed to bring a thousand time more bugs then improvements in their 100$ update
They fundamentally changed the flight dynamics and ground simulation, this is a new sim at the core.
@lars667 I wouldn't call it a new sim entirely. It is still heavily based on fs2020 and they had corrected must of the bug in 2020. Now we get airport with terminal missing, trees and buildings on runways, taxi ways and parking, runways as narrow as a bike path, an ATC that barely work, a career mode with no other plane flying or on the ground and the list goes on. It's so broken that I feel more like an Alpha tester than anything else
We get it, your dense.....you wouldn't get it.
@@davewills148if you’re going to call someone ‘dense’ at least learn the difference between your and you’re. 😂
@@ianrivaldosmith No need, you obviously understand ''DENSE'' well enough.
Oh, there's another city ( 14:13 -- Tokyo? ) with a random 800-900 ft. tree. There are 3 of these mutant trees in Philadelphia. 🙄 I flew 2024 last night, first time in 2 weeks and it's just so damn frustrating.
I found a really cool bug tonight, if you press SHIFT-C at the right time while crashing into the ground you can walk around and you will hear the copilot talking to ATC (if you have AI handling your atc). Not only that, if you hit TAB to bring up the tablet you can see your plane is actually flying around while you are on the ground. If you hit SHIFT-C to try and get back in the plane it will say you have crashed etc, and it starts you back in the air as it normally does.
If you press ctl-alt-delete you can stop MSFS when it crashes,
Totally agree to everything you've highlighted. MSFS 2024 is the ultimate when it comes to graphic reality, no questions there. BUT, for serious Flight Simmers (who use it as a simulator & not a game), it's a NO GO! The fun of Flight Simming is to start and reach you destination with all the realism in a flight and no bugs.
Yes...once in a while there could be a system glitch, but 98% of the time you should be able to complete your "full" flight without any system based issues.....that is what the goal is isn't it? That is what serious simmers want to achieve.
I very reluctantly gave up on MSFS (being a loyal MS Flight Simulator user since the early 2000's) after a lot of issues in MSFS 2020, and for the 1st time tried X-Plane. You can't compare the graphics, but I get 100% satisfaction of completing every flight without having to worry about the system crashing or hanging etc, etc, etc. Now hooked on to X-Plane for the consistency.
Spot on! 100% agree with everything covered.
I'm a now-handicapped snowboarder/musician who can't do either of those things anymore. I'm just a guy in a hospital bed playing through an Xbox controller. I only like flying the little putt-putt planes that give you lead poisoning from their fuel. But yes, I am one of those newcomers that an accessible sim makes it easy for me to virtual sightsee. I don't need to pretend to go looking for things since the photo mode is a thing. I've been cracking out the photograph animal missions. (Those darn African Elephants are elusive.)
(Honestly I would never have picked up the flight sim's if it wasn't for 2020 having satellite imagery. I can follow the highways through Minnesota that I know and see the landmarks, oh there's where those funky trees are, Yup, they're there. Oh, here's where the 3 radio broadcast towers are, yup. Those are there too. Let's fly over to my local Menards home improvement store, or the Super Target I am banned from being on property for skateboarding through on their grand opening. lol, Yup even the big target sign is there.)
I haven't encountered as many horrible bugs as others have come across. So, I'd give a 4 / 10 stars currently as well. Flaps in career mode while my DHC Beaver is sitting idle on the taxiway >_< What The Heck! Actually 3/10, those should've been patched in week 1 after release, 2024 is all about the career mode. Also, Career mode first company = freight. That's your money maker.
Yeah the thing that gets me is as an employee in career they don't put enough fuel in the plane to make long trips !!!
When I saw that traffic Cesna levitating on the parking spot at 6:10, it is then that I start to laugh 😁🤣
I saw that - during the part where he was heaping praise on this bag of shit trying to be fair (which he was, to his credit).
This happens when another online player is flying a helicopter and the game does wrong model matching by showing you a plane instead of a helicopter. This also happens in fs2020.
@@rafalrazmus that is an issue, but OP was referencing parked static aircraft sitting 6 feet off the ground. I've seen it myself in missions with multiplayer turned off
Haha yes, I always try and be as balanced as humanely possible, but not the best footage to pick in my praise section 😂
@@kazzercise yes true, I saw many like this especially in crowded and big airport but also in small sometimes
I learned my lesson with 2020. I’ll jump sims in about 2 years. You know when 2024 is ready.
I dunno.. I've had days and days of fun with it. And of course there is room for improvement, which will inevitably happen. I guess some people have a bad faith attitude and can't wait to take it down. The days of a sim or game being a static release it once in a perfect state are long gone. Something like MSFS 2024 is just too complex for that. Of course they could've waited a bit longer and maybe fix some more bugs and prepare for a better release experience, but all in all I think MSFS 2024 provides an awesome experience in general.
I can only speak from my own experience of course, and I've been having a blast with it. My last low and slow flight in the gyrocopter over Corsica in VR has been nothing but an amzing experience that I won't forget. I don't think any other sim can give me anything close to that.
You sound young and inexperienced, accepting of the industry in it's current state and defending it out of ignorance ( the actual definition - not a slander). YOU are the target audience while we old f*ks can't die soon enough for them.
People are going off about it as if games still have only 100 lines of code and everyone runs them on the exact same system. This is a massive and complex game, not Pong, and there will be countless PCs running it, none of them identical. Yeah, there are bugs. Of course there are. But the moaning about them is just embarrassing. At this point, anyone who buys a live service game on launch and expects no issues is a fool. Take the risk if you want, but don't moan when there are launch issues. Or wait to see what people moan about and then make a purchase decision.
Great video ! 😁👍 Hope they fix ground textures and photogrammetry because is some areas looks like shit.,On the replay sometimes the wheels on most of the airliners looks like they will disintegrating.,hope they fix the contrails too !
Exceptional as always. I tried for a week and only achieved a 96% load so gave up. Glad you are back Reggie, I did wonder why you were silent, hope the new home is all you wanted. Have a great Christmas and new year.
New home is fabulous mate! I’ve discovered if you leave your crap in boxes it acts as a wardrobe in itself!
Appreciate the comment and yes, the dreaded load times are a killer for many. Really hoping they can get this to where it needs to be over the coming months.
Cheers 🍻
Having to fight the Sim at every turn just to try to experience a nominal smooth flight starting cold and dark and ending cold and dark is a shame. Your review is spot on. Now we wait on pins and needles for every patch, update, hoping it fixes even basic stuff that a beta would have uncovered.
I purchased the premium package before release, hoping the hype would pay off. On the second day after release, I couldn't load into an aircraft at all. I returned my purchase thru Steam. Wiped my hands of it. I'll continue to enjoy MSFS2020 and X-Plane until they get their act together. Even if 2024 gets working in 2025, server streamed assets are going to be a hard sell to a PC simmer like me.
Server streamed assets are no problem and are the only way you will get these sort of details.....providing their servers are up to it, which they clearly aren't....
I bought it and am very disappointed it was released before it was finished. Love career mode but for me it is riddled with problems with graphics and aircraft. Even your pictures show at 04:46 & 06:14 show parked aircraft at least 6 feet in the air. Agree with all you say just hope they sort it out.
I remember sitting at my PS4 in late 2020 after starting to play Cyberpunk 2077 wondering wtf was going on and just seeing a product that had so much hype just be soooooooo bad. Had the same experience last month sitting on my Xbox series X playing MSFS 2024. At least with Cyberpunk, it was a new IP and trying to do new things while MSFS 2024 had a prior version that was excellent and the fact that it can’t even get 2020 things right (such as the mouse issues that all of us on Series X have experienced if we use a mouse). I’d be a little more understanding if it was the new innovative things (like career mode) that were a little bugged at launch but it’s the whole entire deal that is bugged.
Yes brother I fell in love with flight sim on my series s, Got gamepass to try 2024 and I was dissapointed with the xbox performance and bugs. I got it for PC and i have had less problems I just cant wait for this one to be ironed out, Im loving the sim
I just got back into flight simming after a nearly a decade and resurrected my FS2004 install, fully loaded with quality addons and half decent scenery enhancements. It is to this day the smoothest performing flight sim platform ever. No gimmickry whatsoever, just purely designed with the pedigreed aviation enthusiast in mind, with tons of quality study level aftermarket aircraft addons.
I am using a $10 desktop PC I got from the thrift store, slapped in a RAM upgrade, spent $200 or so on peripherals, and I am a happy recluse in oblivion to what is current in the flight sim world. Being out of touch has resolved the anxiety which I user to suffer from in my past flight simming experience and I find I am actually enjoying it this time around!
They make home flight sims look much better than the ones professionals train on - Your comment is why MS flight Simulator has become a shadow of it's former self - can we fly using only a controller? Wait for the next version :P
So if servers go offline no more sim? So you don't even have the game on your pc ?
And do you know why.......i DO.......GO ON ASK?
The lunch is rough, but they fixed all the issues already. I mean, I have very few hardly any issues flying in clear mode or any other mode now, so it got fixed way quicker than cyberpunk did.
Just found this channel and I love it, the humour is diamond
Love to hear that mate, welcome to our growing gang!
Can he do a Michael Caine cockney? He will hit 1 mio. subs in no time!
Haha, that would be impressive but alas no, I can’t do that I’m afraid!
Due to MSFS being cloud based is a primary reason I did not buy the sim/game. I have XP12, though it lacks the eye candy, does not have the issues MSFS does. XP12 could use some optimalization, over all it is a solid sim. XP12 is a sim while MSFS is a game, two different worlds and both have their place though I do hope XP12 improves the scenery.
Stumbled upon your channel for the first time today. At last an honest 2024 review. All the others youtubers tell half the story at best so as not to put all their free addons they get at risk!!!!
Glad the algorithm found you mate, appreciate your kind comment! Cheers 🍻
Real pilot here. I like and use MSFS 2020 but by far the best sim for real pilots is X-plane. Why? You can easily set up your weather exactly how you want it. You can create your own panel exactly how your plane is set up. You can drop your plane exactly anywhere you want to. Real pilots want to set up a scenario to practice, with the same equipment they will use in the air. Not being able to pick my own panel really ticks me off. Yes the graphics are much better on the MS version. That is about it.
Americans will watch this and think this is literally what every single one of us sound like, and I love that XD 7:33
I have yet to even see the flight to crash. On either my PC or Xbox and as far as the helicopter flipping upside down or passenger appearing outside, I have never seen that bug at all in several hundred hours of flying with the sim already.
i saw some lunatic say this about msfs 2024 "oh another person who just complains. Bet you also were the type that was complaining how long it's been taking to release it. 2020 wasn't that great in the beginning either. You expect a working product on day one. Gtfo"
Holy smokes that final score. Great review
I just tried it again today after leaving it for a couple of weeks due to the frustration. It seems to have improved after the latest patch. There's definitely a lot of bugs still, it really shouldn't have been released in that condition, or at least Asobo should've been more transparent and honest about its condition so buyers could be informed. But despite the UI bugs in VR, I still had a very smooth and enjoyable flight in career mode.
I think there's hope for it yet 🙂🤞
Good to see an honest reviewer. Usually only go to WAB for my honest reviews. Subbed :)
WAB is one of my go to channels too. Excellent reviewer and whilst I don’t agree with absolutely everything he says, his honesty is what counts most.
Appreciate the sub mate, you’re in good company!
I can get the graphics in FS2020 to look just as good as in FS2024 using the NVidia filters.
So I will stick with FS2020 as its now stable and a joy to use.
Absolute bollocks ! You've obviously not played 2024.
@@brin57
So who rattled your cage then?
Calm down, calm down.
@@johnhammond6423 You did with your ridiculous claim.
You simply cant....so stop coping ;)
@@brin57
Well don't worry, mummy make it all better.
Why dont you have more views and subscribers? This is quality content, great entertainment 😅
Thank you, comments like this make the effort worthwhile! Honestly, when I started this channel two year back I always said to myself “imagine if I got 10k subs, wouldn’t that be crazy”. And I’m almost there…. Anything else is a bonus for me. Appreciate your support mate, cheers 🍻
Nice humour, subbed
if it wasnt on game pass i wouldnt be playing.
The most shambolic thing is the extremely slow roll out of purchased stuff on the marketplace from 2020. I've heard from sources that the sim was all good to go, everything ported over to the new sim, everything was working fine, until a Massive game breaking bug was founded just days prior to the launch, which required everything be chucked off and started again. This restart process only begun, after we got our mits on the game.
I understand a release is not possible in January due to everyone recuperating from Christmas, but a rollback to Feb/March was definitely required.
Welcome to “Flight Citizen”
At least it's released, unlike Store Citizen will ever be.
At last an honest (& funny) review that I can get behind. Thanks, subscribed. 👍
Welcome to our growing gang mate, appreciate your support. I’ve watched and read quite a lot of reviews and I started to wonder if it was just me with issues. Reading these comments has restored my faith in the gaming population. Cheers to you 🍻
I love 2024. The smoothness in VR is all I wanted and outside of career mode i haven't had any of the bugs showcased here
Really appreciate you sharing this mate as I never touched the VR aspect of the game, so good for others to see your comment. Cheers to you mate 🍻
VR is definitely smoother, but not being able to interact with the pop up EFB is pretty poor, they need to fix that as a priority (as not all planes have a built in EFB). I've also experienced very poor ground textures in mountains and other areas that looked so much better in 2020, seems to be a LOD issue that has not yet been addressed - either that or I've done something stupid in my settings thats not apparent.
Same I'm using pimax crystal and love it....currently on an around the whole world flight....left uphaven 4 days ago....currently in Iceland....next flight will be Reykjavik to northern Canada then south all the way to south America then on to Antarctica 😊👊
@@cockneygamer VR is very broken too with massive bugs that still go unfixed, performance is also worse than MSFS2020. If you read the official forums you'll find a lot of very annoyed VR users who feel let down by this release, me included.
@@gflo2781 have you downloaded auto fps? it manages the lod's on the fly
Microsoft would probably be better off advertising all the faults as "easter eggs" for which you receive a prize for each one you report. If reported bugs were dollars, I could be a millionaire.
💯 mate. Everything what you said. FS24 is one big con job in its current form. Asobo/ MS did an excellent job in hoodwinking all the influencers in Las Vegas. Some simmers should get together and file a class action lawsuit in the US for defective product. That's the only way they will learn.
Smart thinking.
"Textures can't bothered to load" ... well yeah thats asset streaming for ya thanks to all the casual normies crying about larger install sizes in MSFS2020, now with 24 sure install is smaller but your fully dependent on cloud streaming.
Forget the content, you are hilarious my friend 🤣🤣
Very kind of you to say mate. I always wanted a channel that gave honest reviews but had some banter thrown in along the way, especially when reviewing these simulator style games. Appreciate you commenting, cheers 🍻
I gotta admit, you got my hackles up attacking MSFS 2024 like that, but you discussed and proved each point masterfully. Well done! This review will never be outdated.
Cheers to you mate, appreciate you commenting and glad it landed the right points. 🍻
My msfs 20 is uninstalled. Only runnig 24 now. Sure the game needs lots of improvement but it's so far a much better game than it's predecessor.
I don't give a damn shit about carrier mode. I play mostly general aviation vfr, helicopter. So no big issue for me. Some remarquable planes are included. The chinook, the beaver dhc-2, and some others.
But i must complain about planes. I have the premium edition. Too many planes are bad quality, bugged or even unplayable. And i would like to play missions without the need of the carrier mode.
"I never beat my wife, so domestic violence is not a problem". Just stop it. M$F$ 2024 looks better than it's predecessor. It doesn't function better. It's a pile of shit wrapped in nice packaging.
Good honest review! nice one. I was sold on the largest version but managed to get it for 120 quid on a cheap key site but i have never been so mistaken on my choice of purchase since Star Citizen EA launch. I have faith that this will fix over time but in any case if we are being the testers then they should have sold it as an EA release with more realistic pricing.
How the hell can they expect me to pay full price when MS never paid me a single cent to beta test their 2020 version of the same sim? It's taken Asobo what, like 3+ years to finalize 2020? No thanks MS. I'll wait at least a year before I decide whether to buy 2024 or not. @10:05, wait a minute. Is this for real?
2020 still isn't complete. The 78 STILL doesn't have ground effect, still flies like trash, there are still random holes in the scenery... Basically the problems that are plaguing 2024 are still plaguing 2020... Which is comical that people are so staunch on defending 2024. Who thinks encrypting liveries is a good idea? Asobo / Microsoft realized they could charge playstation with extra steps (Xbox) users for liveries that are free on PC... I'm betting they want to make liveries payware (let's be real, asobo promising "once marketplace comes you can use liveries" is as trustworthy as their years of empty promises already)
@@raymarshall6721 All great points. Even more reason why I'm holding back even considering buying 2024.
IMO, the biggest issue with this sim, as with 2020 to a point, is that they're created by developers who are gamers, and not developers who are simmers!
We definitely need the option to download as much as the game as we need. I don't want to stream just to get the most recent scenery. I read a download the most recent. There are many ways to do this.
10:45 that dance move is called 'the gandalf'
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It looks gorgeous. I’m an old school MS Flight Sim head. So wait a year to pick up it sounds like?
Keep telling it like it is, Reggie! Cant believe how unbelievably lazy corporations are getting nowadays.
"unbelievably lazy"
MY BROTHER IN CHRIST YOU HAVE HINDREDS OF AIRCRAFT, GRAPHICS BETTER THAN REAL LIFE AND THE WHOLE WORLD TO EXPLORE AND YOURE CALLING THEM LAZY?!? IM LUCKY TO EVEN GET A FLIGHT SIM WITH THE WHOLE WORLD, LET ALONE GOOD GRAPHICS. GOD
I think the major issue is the fact you have to stream everything like Netflix. I have a gig connection and the loading times are pathetic. Give me the option to install what I want on my pc, even if I want to use 2TB and more.
The world data is 2 PETABYTES....good luck with getting that storage, lol
@@ivanfojan8859 Yes I am aware of that, but you forgot FS always let you install the area you wish to fly in. Me personally I would just install Florida and stream anything else..
@@ivanfojan8859 No need for the whole world, even the planes are streamed, I mean that is literally idiotic
MSFS 2020 still has a lot of the very same bugs there on 2024, so forget it ever being a good game!
I cannot disagree with him at all he is absolutely correct. I dropped $199 for the aviator edition. and I was expecting the starting point would be at the pinnacle of FS2020 and then go forward from there. sadly we got otherwise. I still think they were trying to meet their launch deadline as opposed to having a polished product. anyway good review. I'm already all in, with the amount of money I paid for the SIM. So all I can do is hopefully the product will get better overtime.
15:00 sound - I would agree in cockpit, sounds are good, but outside, hearing planes flying over, in drone view, sounds are still weird rumbly messes.
Weird ambient reverb and delay applied to everything that's more than 200ft away, everything sounds super rumbly, planes don't sound much like planes, they don't even bother to add the sounds of planes in the distance flying around like from real life recordings, to bring atmosphere, call of duty does a better job at that, the doppler effect sucks, propeller planes sound like rattling metal when you get more than 300 meters away... Its not good
Haha, loved the excellent commentary. This tuber is king of snarky simile for sure. Subbed. I'm sitting on v2020 until the mess gets sorted. Gotta master this sim with the new VR goggles first, anyway.
Very kind of you to say mate, appreciate your comment! Cheers 🍻
This is weirdly pretty comparable to the release of Overwatch 2. Overwatch released in 2016, had many updates which started to slow down dramatically in 2019 after suddenly they announced OW2. They claimed they would add more maps, a PvE story mode, and a ton more stuff so people bought the idea. But instead of continuing to add stuff to the first game before it released they just completely stopped with updates for 3 years before OW2 then released in 2022, with literally nothing that was promised, it’s essentially just a free version of OW1 clearly released just to please the publisher and make more money since the first game had been out for a while. This is literally the same case, why not just add all this new stuff to the 2020 version? They don’t actually add that much here to warrant the new release. Instead they were probably forced to rush the release for profits lol.
I must say, the park in North Bergen, NJ looks stunning!
You flew right over my house at 11:24 😂
Unfortunately, I bought the PD Steelbook edittion from Best Buy, and like an excited kid on x-mas morning, I stupidly opened the box, before watching RUclips reviews. Oh well, I'll wait a year or so before I bother installing it.
Thanks for the honest review and score. As someone who loves this hobby since I was a teen, played every version since Bruce Artwick produced SubLogic FS, I couldn't agree more with your assessment.
I’m on the Aviator edition so fear not, there is plenty of us! And yes, you’re spot on, game can just look mind blowing at times. The potential is all there. But man alive is it a mess right now.
Thanks for commenting mate, appreciate it.
@@cockneygamer Almost went that route myself (aviator edition) 😅
It could be worse - it could be CIG with star citizen
The fact that at 6:13 several parked aircraft are hovering a couple of metres off the ground kinda drives home how much of a mess this is at the moment...
FS2020 plus PMDG 737 or Fenix 320 plus GSX plus a set of handcrafted airports with proper GSX profiles plus FSLTL is the closest you can get to experiencing flying a jetliner on a (reasonably powerful) PC. Enough said.
I am thinking of getting into flight simulation. As it stands right now, I would not touch MSFS 2024 with a ten-foot pole. I would probably go with X Plane 12 and/or MSFS 2020.
Whatever you do, make sure you try it! It’s genuinely a fantastic hobby within a hobby. XPlane was great but for my money msfs2020 is probably the best start right now.
@@cockneygamer Thank you for your reply it was greatly appreciated.
@@peterlazuric5641 I think that's a wise choice. FS24 has potential, it will be a good sim eventually, but I definitely wouldn't recommend it as your first simulator in its present state.
XPlane if you want flight physics and proper aircraft handling. Ms2020 if you want eye candy. 2020 has okay flight physics (better than fsx) but nowhere near realistic enough to compete with XPlane. Myself and a couple of my friends (all pilots) love MSFS but the aircraft handling and the AI scenery generation make it comical. Hangars which house a single Cessna tall enough to put a 747. Lights and signs on taxiways. Floating lights at some airports (street lights. Not even airport lights). If you want a 'first sim' experience, go Microsoft. If you want realism without the eye candy, go xplane. Keep in mind though, if you have MSFS, Microsoft can pull the plug when they want as it's live service. XPlane is one you will have forever
@@raymarshall6721 Thank for your reply and I have been hearing the same thing you said from others. I would prefer the realism of X Plane 12. The Airfoil Cessna 172 ng digital is one nice sim to learn I think.
I'm from Scotland born and bred, but half my blood is cockney as my dad was born and bred in Bethnal Green. Love your video. Brilliant. Couldn't have said it better myself. Please, please send this to Asobo, Microsoft AND Inibuilds. Subscribed.
I am an old X plane veteran who is getting tired of playing X plane 12, so I thought about diving into the world of MSFS. But after this video I might stay with my game...
I also started gliding so for me the physics simulation is a top priority and X plane is doing a better job I believe.
100% correct & agree with your conclusions. I’ve been with XP11&12 for a good few years but was looking forward to 2024 so much. + it was my main Xmas present. I’m writing this comment on the 8th of Jan after 7 days of trying to get this sim operating to an acceptable level. Yesterday was the first time I managed to complete any flight using default aircraft (Citation Longitude). After flight 1 in the UK (with bugs) I tried another from Las Vegas to Grand Canyon in the belief that these 2 airports, on MS home turf & popular locations, would be a good test. What a joke! Taxying out I found a very steep hill in the taxyway at the end of the 01 runways - so steep my aircraft nearly slid down the hill !! GA aircraft parked to the right of the taxyway were on a 30 degree slope! Then at Grand Canyon there were deer/moose running around the GA parking area - what!!!
So today I’m weighing up whether to abandon 2024 ??? Such a shame & waste of money. I’m not prepared to be an unpaid Beta Tester. This product is so bad it should be withdrawn from sale immediately & free access to 2020 given to 2024 customers.
MS2024 is not fit for purpose! QED.
I appreciate your humour and honesty Reggie, i'm subbing !
Too kind, appreciate your support mate! Cheers 🍻
I elected to not purchase the pre-order and wait and see, my concern was the permanent online streaming requirement , I recall saying after yet another one of their SU fails early in the year how I suspect is they dont sort this server issue out for 2024 it will be the biggest launch fail in PC gaming, and it tears me up knowing I was right on the money... I am enjoying 2020 and plan to continue indefinitely, if by some miracle its all dandy in 12 months I may jump in but its unlikely fixable in my opinion..
Don't get too comfy with 2020. Don't forget Microsoft can pull the plug today. Once they pull the plug, you can't even launch it because "live service".
Not enough people were vocal enough with 2020 being live service online only to keep Microsoft in line. Now that the Xbox kids gave them validation, 2024 is even more dependent.
Can you play this with just the PS5 controller?
Microsoft did the right thing releasing MS24 as it was. They figure only sim flyers around the world could find the bugs and issues that need to be fixed. Flight Simulator 2024, being so complex and sophisticated, will be perfected over time.
What's so different I got a refund the difference Is very small it seems no lessons have been learned from 2020 .
My updated scenery is the same in 2020.
Of course they know about the bugs. They probably were pressed by Microsoft to put into the market ASAP. It may be fixed later, like MSFS2020 was