How To Throw Your Life Away
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Behavioural prescriptions only work when they serve the interest of the people practising them, yet in today's day and age we hear a litany of "thou shalts", implying that by following them you are doing the right thing but what if the "right thing" is merely a path towards destruction?
I will not die for a government that hates me.
But really, soldiers are risking their lives for corporations.
A lot of Ukranian men also said that and then they were forced to die.
Govt >is< the kingpin corporation of its jurisdiction. And we the people are its stated enemy. That is the relationship we enjoy.
@@freddyperla7944 look we were all misguided youth. The military no matter how much glamoured it portrayed on the outside. It's a job like everything else and people tie so much into it. The amount guys I knew who re-upped because they couldn't financially afford to take the pay cut was astonishing to me. Its a racket for retention. The basic grunt doesn't care to much about the higher because he's in survival mood. He needs to meet his physical needs and some of his psychological needs as well which twisted in service is to a degree meet. It's a corporation, a gang like any other but damn are they good at trapped in their employees.
People even suffer the crab mentality to pull people back into the boiling water.
You spelled society wrong
Your reward for being a "real man" in the traditional sense, is to either perish on a battlefield or to lose everything in divorce court.
And that's what made you able to be free and sprwad this cowardice from the comfort of your room coward
I would rather be a fake man
"Real" man in our guy-no-centric soyciety means being a knee-taker husbandcel wallet or cannon fodder. They really see men as sub-human.
Most men are FINALLY getting the message.
Military enlistment & marriage rates are in sharp decline.
You are not disposable if you refuse to participate.
@@mckeeasdf "You are not disposable if you refuse to participate." That's a very valid idea. I've used it as a guide for my life. I've never been in the military, and never been married. As a result I'm still alive at age 59, and I'm finally independent and living comfortably.
War is old men having disagreements over greed and power and sending millions of young men to their deaths.
👏👏👏👏👍
"War is when the old and bitter trick the young and stupid into killing each other."
- Niko Bellic(2008)
@@classicslayer456 ah, you beat me to it!
Exactly
Bankers
I am now 68 years old, and I can tell you that anytime someone is telling you to "be a real man" and do "this thing" - it's always something that will benefit THEM. See if I'm wrong! 😅
exactly this is what the modern manosphere is all about. it's all just an elaborate seduction on men to control and manipulate.
Lol yup
It took you 68 years to realize that? Lol
@TheHypeIsMellow1995 strawman
..or it's something they wouldn't do themselves...
i am ukrainian and i fled ukraine. while my brothers, both russians and ukrainians are getting murdered at the front lines, women in ukraine are saying "it's summer, which european country should i visit on my vacation?" i am not dying as some worker drone for women.
based
It’s quite hilarious (sad in reality) how pro feminism your Slavic women have become in modern times due to western culture seeping in every corner of the world. Obviously when it’s war time, there’s not a single feminist anymore. Women and men are different obviously when bullets are being fired.
Good for you .
Undead Chronic said it best...vvomen have no tribe. While there men get yeeted in droves, they party with Chad while also calling coward the men who escape from the war
Based af. I'm not dying for some tribe's land when I'm not even a part of its future gene pool
A "real man" is a men who thinks for himself and doesn't follow blindly. A "real man" is a free man.
💯
then very few exist. if chicks gave inkwells a chance they would get married today
Guess I’m not a real man then because I need help and guidance.
@@neverbeganforme If you follow the crowd then you're not a real man just a utility for women.
@@neverbeganforme Accepting help and guidance is not the same thing as letting others tell you who you are and how you are obligated to live your life.
Tillman entered the military with the best of intentions and like many he became disillusioned with the reality on the ground. Retired Vet here who has seen it all.
100%
back then information was totally different... it was way harder to find out the truth
many believed the government does the right thing... and they would never lie to us.
@@Satori-AutomotiveI have learned over the last ten years is whatever they claim is the exact opposite of the truth. I honestly can’t stand almost everyone in government currently and most likely won’t change.
Thank you from a fellow vet
I'm just a vet that knew the game was rigged. The defense contractors got 20 years of free money off of us.
So that's nice.
@@Satori-Automotive This is a Western thing. Westerners trust their goverments, propably due to their high trust societies. Most of us outside of the West view the goverment as what it really is: A pimp who's bad at pimping.
Do what you like with your life. It's yours. It's much easier to be shamed than have to jump through society's hoops.
Yep you will always be a rascal or an outcast in most of society's eyes, the sooner you realize this the sooner you can unchain yourself from the contract of societal expectations
Shame is hard to bear as well. It would be nice to share with others and people interested instead of judging.
This. The only thing they can do is shame/ridicule you…..and they’re going to do that any way so you might as well live on your own terms
Work if you want, just do it off the books. Don't work for Judeo-banking system.
TRUTH; I'll be shamed, but I'll be shamed with all of my resources, health and sanity intact
Never wish to die for the ruling class
It's your duty as a man. People fought and died for lords and Kings since ancient times. Robin hood was first a soldier, Achilles was a soldier, all the Knights that everyone loves were noble, but also served their King. As a man it is your duty to fight for your country
Men of the past had reasons to defend their country. They had wives, girlfriends, houses, and families. Average men get sht on by both sides. WTF are we defending?
@@KristaldeauCityLightsyour existence,pride, freedom
@LunarWolf-H8 Maybe leaders should fight their own wars.
@@GandalftheWise "country"
Meanwhile: 🚣🏿♂️🚣🏿♂️🚣🏿♂️🚣🏿♂️ 🇬🇧
I think you have to respect the leader to even consider putting your own neck out. Fuck these sellouts, this honour talk is just ignorant trad nonsense at this point.
Unfortunately most women are also ignorant as fuck so yeah you do get some fake aura of status or honour for being in the service, from chicks and tradcuck men
Most men are FINALLY getting the message.
Military enlistment & marriage rates are in sharp decline.
You are not disposable if you refuse to participate.
BINGO! RED PILL all the way
Become a benefits man, read Reverend Insanity
My brothers said the same.
Without any insults I have to ask: what then should men dedicate their lives too? Worldly pleasure and creature comfort? Sitting around on the Internets while bitter?
@@rumrunner8019 SIMP
"friendly" fire....
He got shot after he turned General Smedley calling out the fact he'd seen war was indeed a racket.
@@festuswilliams654 💯
Facts.
100%
General Smedley - "War is a racket."
💯 thanks for pointing that out
No one wins in these wars. The people that start these wars never fight within the war nor send their children into harms way.
The whole point of politics 👉 = get someone else to do it.
@@UTubeVidWatcher Well, there were Presidents Isenhower, Kennedy, George Bush, Sr., Teddy Roosevelt, Ulysses Grant, George Washington, Harry Truman, and perhaps a few more who actually saw military service.
That is anti-Semitic.
It took me 5 years in the army to figure out the government was lying to me about everything
What happened the day that it made you realize they were lying to you?
My great uncle Morris fought in North Africa in WWII. His unit was preparing for the invasion of Sicily and doing some training on a new mortar. One of the fuses was faulty and the round cooked off just as it left the tube, killing Morris instantly and injuring several of his men. The army did an investigation, found that an entire lot of some 5,000 fuses were faulty, and it turned out that they had been manufactured in Morris' home town of Rochester, NY about a mile from his family farm. Male disposability at it's most ironic.
@erikwade3668 yes not so glorious after all. Vietnam the casualties from accidents and friendly fire were huge
@@droppeddogs Glory is overrated.
@@erikwade3668yup. In this day and age it’s best to just be a “grey man” and live a comfortable life on your own terms than to seek glory and fame
My grandfather fought in the same campaign in Northern Africa. I never met him. He was from Boston and my grandmother was from Louisiana. They divorced in the 1950s and my grandmother came back to Louisiana to raise my mother.
“The greatest generation” and here in your example a display of extreme incompetence by the people making the fuses.
I can remember that the US Government and Army tried its best to suppress the fact that he died due to friendly fire
Because it was an inside job.
I was in desert storm. twice I was nearly shot by friendly fire. I was at the very front of the 1st ID ground force. I watched as my unit murdered Iraqi soldiers as they were surrendering. I yelled and screamed for them to stop but my radio was shut off by my commander. after that I came home and hated my job and ETS'd. for years I had nightmares about it for years.
@@BrunoBerryhoneybuns1370 they killed unarmed soldiers fr? Isn't that illegal?
@@jameslight4391 Laws are only applicable when enforced. In the real world, what is legal is whatever you can get away with.
@jameslight4391 there is enough ambiguity in the "laws of war." To do it in some circumstances. Like most things in the military
Fought in Afghanistan in 2010 as a Marine grunt, it was a very violent year. I’m Glad I didn’t die in that country for nothing.
Word. Of all the Vietnam war movies that came out in the 80s, my favorite was "Hamburger Hill". The sheer pointlessness of it all at the end was just heartbreaking
@@thadtuiol1717Great movie, there’s a scene in that movie where the brothers are doing a hand shake and saying “it’s don’t mean nothing , not a thang” sums up the whole tragedy of Vietnam war pretty well.
Me too. I am so disillusioned with this government. Sangin and Marjah were for nothing
SEMPER FI
THANKS FOR YOUR SERVICE
different times. back then we dont had the way of gathering information
at this time i thought to go into the german army after school
when i finished school in 2016 i was totally free from that thought. In 2014-2016 i did a ton of research and found out that the things are not like we are told.
So i can totally understand why back then people thought that fighting for the country (government) is a good thing. We simply believed they would not lie to us.
All that’s left is to fight for yourself as no one else will fight for you.
What's worse is how the system has integrated women into the military since the beginning of GWOT. Instead of being wives for military men, women in the military have become married to the system and boosted their financial/social status as a result. Most if not all women in the military tend to love it because most of what they do generally amounts to public speaking and administrative work and given all the time off they can get for having kids and a family, the road to the 20 year retirement is effectively easier for them to attain compared to single men like myself.
They also tend to sustain injuries more often which leads to them taking more time off and shifting their workload to men like myself, despite getting paid the same. In general, the military has become an organization that favors women and families, despite the majority of its members being single men.
You are mad that those women aren't JUST wives, instead of being in the military AND becoming wives and starting families? What's the problem?
@alexisc7565 I'm so impressed with how logically sound your argumentation is, not.
@@zacharymorris9917 I didn't make an argument, I asked a question. Keep up.
@@alexisc7565 yeah, duh. That was EXACTLY MY POINT. Try to keep up.
@zacharymorris9917 Your "point" was that I wasn't making an argument, that I was asking a question? Nice call, Captain Obvious lol
Don't fight for tiny hats.
If thats who I’m fighting against then I would enlist
Exactly
But oh how they danced
Convenient when everything you don't like can be branded as "tiny hats"
@@Urbanizegaming or as "antisemitism"...
I have found that most people giving you advice aren't giving it for your benefit, but for theirs.
When people give me advice I have two thoughts:
1. Are they credible?
2. Do they have my best interests at heart?
True, in fact, every action that someone takes is in their own benefit, and the only time you can trust with certainty is when an action is both in their benefit and in your benefit
That applies to advice and opinions expressed in RUclips videos, as well.
One of the most painful lessons I had was finding out my uncle gave me horrible advice on purpose, basically sabotaging my youth, to make sure his children were more successful than my dad's. Betrayal hurts.
@@jeremylewis5551Damn son. I’m curious about what advice he gave you
Imagine dying for a war and then a couple of years later the men that sent you to die agree to a peace deal and carry on with their lives. Your women move on to another man to look after them and forgot you ever existed. For the first time in history men are choosing themselves and you can no longer shame them into being a disposable tool.
Well said
Yup.
I have tea, books, sobriety, hobbies, and God. I've abandoned women and status.
It's about damn time
Boxer the "work horse" from Animal Farm, worked until he could no longer work, then was shipped off to the glue factory.
Boxer quote "I will work harder!"
I read Animal Farm in the early 1980's. Now old, I still can't believe how so much of that book is relatable to current times.
And the death ofBoxer marked the start of the quick decline of the farm if memory serves...
Orwell had great perceptivity.
Thesedays Boxer is an ambitious hustler always on the grind still working harder, still believing effort maxxing is the solution to all his problems while someone above him actually calls the direction. Direction is the real power, not effort.
I earned 6 nfts for playing animal farm😅
When the motivational speaker's success solely comes from being a motivational speaker, he obviously got nothing to teach you.
Don't sacrifice for nothing.
Walk in truth.
Sacrifice for SOMEthing.
I went through the motions of being a "real man". I hoped to meet a "trad wife", but my experience with women (with which I was reasonably successful) soured me against the idea. These days, I live alone, and I have little contact with females. In my mind, a trad wife is a delusion that desperate men cling to to prevent themselves having to cope with the horrific reality of female nature. Also, if there is a trad woman out there, she would likely want a trad-chad.
You definitely are 100% spot on! Trad wives are basically a fairy tale for delusional men
There are no trad wives. There are only women that pretend to be trad in order to get money out of you.
Amen brother. Sadly for me I'm a lustful guy but the best thing that lets me get past their garbage personalities is that I stopped taking them seriously and treat them like children and it works lol
This "believe all women" is behind all this. I'm a false accused & I'm more that positive I'm hated, the treatment screams it. I've done nothing to have this happening. Just wanting best for all of us. Entitlements caused this. The law caused this.
Back in the day there were many good women who wanted nothing more than to be a trad wife.
In 2024 women like that are all but nonexistent.
On the positive side he didn't have to experience coming home to find his wife pregnant by someone else. RIP.
She did? Or do you mean as an example for Jody being a thing in the military?
LOL. BINGO
Sad it it's true.
I’m sure even if his wife wasn’t that smart of a woman she would have known she had it too good. He was not a regular service member. He had the height, the looks and the money. That was a cash cow, I’m sure once his enlistment was up he would resume his multi million dollar NFL career. in general, women are hypergamous, They cheat up, not down.
@@michaelbrennan4663 LOL. Looks? LOL. He looked like a big necked jerk.
I am actually thankful to people like Pat Tilman because they serve as a lesson to average men such as myself as to how utterly disposable we are, and how alot of our disposability we willingly walk into. His death was a tragedy but at least in some small part we lesser non alpha elite men can learn from his folly especially after the slap in the face to all the Afghanistan veterans that was the disgusting way we left that country that we wasted 20 years of blood and treasure on, just to enrich politicians and MIC special interests. And now with WW3 and a draft looming, how will the youth of today use these lessons?
Gwot era veteran here. Recently out of the army. I can assure you that the next war isn't going to be fought with our soldiers. The overwhelming majority of them don't even want to be in the military. The ones that do aren't the type that would be fighting..
@@gottroubletactical who will it be fought with?
@@shreksburgers most likely conscripts that didn't say no, and actually fall for the scare tactics.
@@shreksburgers They opened the southern border for a reason.....
Any time I hear dudes coping with their "manhood", it cringes me out so hard because all I can think of is how my father wanted me to be a MAN by the time I was 6.
Then in my teens he said too bad I couldn't join the military so that they could make me "a real Man" (asthma kept me out), and I tild him, "yeah, they'll make me a man or whatever, but they'll make me a killer first"...circa 1997
Men have always had to prove themselves while women have never had to do anything. This society can go to hell.
These are the same n0rm 1e$ that parrot "happy wife, happy life" and "gotta ask the boss". They just can't stop $1m ping.
Sounds like a typical boomer projecting his insecurities onto his son.
Many such cases.
Was he a "real" man? Sounds more like a simp to me.
Your dad was a walking talking cliche without an original thought in his head.
The same goes for working for companies. I've given my all for years only to be cut loose because "it's a numbers thing."
Both times I was let go from completely different companies, it was because I wasn't female.
So they keep female engineers, many who are out the door at 5pm, but the guys who put in long hours are out.
They only 'appreciate' you as long as you are doing what they need from you.
Bro damn dude what company ?
@@BEEETRUSIt can happen anywhere. It happened to my dad right before the great recession. Worked for 15 years. Was second in command. Got canned for making too much. Him and 3 other guys.
@@BEEETRUSmaybe some of the woman are just sleeping around, try and do the same? If not just identify as a transgender.
@@SoniaPabon-qm3jh another just bro advice lol
My grandfather served in WWII and came back with medical issues. He died after having three children, the eldest being my father.
The government did not help him with his medical issues, nor did they help his orphaned children, because their mother also died a few years earlier.
It was a fellow serviceman who looked after his children.
You might make friends in the military, but there are too many homeless Veterans to believe that the government will appreciate your service.
You can be a traditionalist, who believes in it and wants it. But realizes it's not the optimal way to live in the current world.
Problem is, tradition doesn't make sense without religion. So as a non religious guy myself it doesn't appeal to me.
so true
In the age of birth control, woman making their own money, Instagram and Dating apps, there is no such this as tradition anymore
The "real man" talking point has become more of a manipulation tactic and less of a talking point of actual moral integrity and wisdom
Not too long ago it was considered manly to drink beer and smoke cigarettes, now it is seen as feminine due to the hedonistic nature of these consumerism pursuits
@@hanzo7616it still makes sense if it’s practical, which it is. But like OP said, we simply don’t live in a world where traditionalism is possible anymore for the most part.
"The trouble with loyalty to a cause is that the cause will always betray you." - A Travelling Mercenary
Thanks. It reminds me of the words of wisdom uttered in the film "Fever Pitch," "Sure you love X, but does X _love you back_ ?" This question haunts me. A reminder whether what we worship or dedicate our lives to maintains a relationship of reciprocity. If not, move on!
Be well.
I really wanted to join the military when I was younger, pre-911. I was really desperate for any sort of comradery and path forward and thought I maybe could get that in the military. But it's not the same military my grandfather was in. Its not the same country he fought for. Young men have nothing to defend so they're not defending it.
There is always the Reserve or National Guard. I was Air National Guard for 26 years.
I understand active duty can be too much commitment for many, but don't throw out the entire thing without looking deeper. 2/3 of the military are either Reserve or Guard.
@@tailgunner2 the point of his comment was more like "this world isnt worth fighting for" not "im scared/nervous of being in the military"" not trying to be rude
@@lordmike9331Substitute the word "world" for "Anti-family, Anti-community & anti-human corporate cesspool" and re-word your entire comment as saying "Your a sniveling coward for not joining a corrupt institution that consists of paid mercenaries with mental problems from dysfunctional families and absentee father figures." I guess you want to support an institution that is more about making arms dealers and banks rich and serves as a substitute parent for emotionally broken adult children.
@lordmike9331 Understood.
My point is, at an individual level, we all should chip in. We have the world's most powerful all volunteer military. We really should take advantage of that to keep it that way.
Isn't there like a trans tribal general in the US military now?
Served for 6 years. Do not join unless you want to fight for banks.
And Israel
Traditionalism and feminism are two sides of the same gynocentric coin.
No difference between modern whamen and traditional one. Same goal, different strategies
That's why also many men need to stop falling for the "real man" talking point
If you as a man feel the need to always prove your masculinity in others, especially to women, I don't care what physique you got, how much money you got or your talking style, but by your very nature you are still a BETA male and I barely even like using that word
Any man who can trascend their ego and self contain it in my opinion is a healthier module of masculinity to emulate than the Superman way of being
Both want you in chains. Tradkukz just want you in a longer chain and lie about it while the FemiNaistz don't lie and want short leash. You can't be a trad man in a society were such laws and culture does not back it
@@thisoldgoat3927 Tradkukz want you in a long leash, Feminist want you on a short leash and for you to serve vvomen till you can give no more and expect nothing...for service is your reward
How do you figure?
It took me about 50 years, 20 of those years as a marine, and almost 20 more as a civilian with DOD to finally understand that we are not fighting the good fight. We are a nation led by sociopathic corporate executives, self-serving weak minded politicians, and mindless bureaucrats. American exceptionalism is a myth. American brutality is reality. When you finally see things for how they really are, it is devastating. I fought for a political and corporate elite class that hates me. Now, they just come out and call us "extremists", the greatest danger to this country. It's so insanely insidious. It hurts to see that other people can't perceive what is happening, what is being done to them?
11:30 "to be honest, these days you'll be lucky to give a damn about yourself" that hit a little too close to home.
You’re not a “real” man if you don’t look like the guy in the thumbnail
That would be their surface level reaction, and don't expect anyone to think or reflect on their reactions to any extent. They don't see you as a real man, so treat them like the false people that they are
Well, I'm still alive.
10:18 I’ve seen it, too, here in the United States: the Ukrainian women are living lives of carefreeness, not the least bit concerned with their prior lives. They’re just “having fun” and keeping an eye out for someone new to feed off.
Do yall want those women to walk around with their head covered, crying and wailing in the streets every day? I'm confused lol
Women everywhere are like that. As Schopenhauer says: "The fundamental flaw in the female character is that it lacks the sense of *justice*."
At least that chad had a reason to fight for and someone to come back to, for most of us, there is no reason in risking our lives for a society that hates us, better stay home and play videogames.
Damn
Spot on! 🏆
Is chad top 10%?
At this juncture, every military death appears to have been for nothing.
Ten years ago, I never would have written this.
Yep, as best as I can tell, the last truly defensive war was the war of 1812. That's quite a long time ago
@michaelbelmonte3717 it started as an offensive war to take canada
Based
There are McDonalds in Vietnam. Probably a Disney theme park too.
@@michaelbelmonte3717American Civil War?? WWII??
I graduated from high school when the towers came down and I was seriously thinking of joining the military. The army recruiters were aggressively after me even going so far to visit me at my job and call my home. My mom talked me out and I'm so grateful I listened to her. Love the "don't pull a Pat Tillman" saying!
It is possible to make no mistakes and still lose.
I usually find it cringe to do quotes but this one always resonated with me.
If Tilman had survived the war and made it home his government masters would have told him he wasn't going to get another job because he wasn't DEI.
Another spot taken by a white woman...
cope. He was a tall chad, they would make him ceo
@@basedmanlett He was 5 ft 11.
Medals don't mean squash when your dead!
They don’t mean anything when you’re alive and leave the military. Nobody cares.
'medals' lol
Older Millennials do remember Pat Tillman. I joined the military around that time.
Do you recommend the younger millenials and gen Z'ers not to join the modern day joke of the US military?
@@offthedeepend3996 It's a tough call.
Today's Marine Corps look nothing like the Marine Corps I joined in the early 2000s.
Wokeness and DEI has really destroyed the will of patriotic people to join, not to mention the people already in the military.
If you absolutely have no better options, then, maybe.
@@Jaxxon123 I train heavily in martial arts, with true authentic Shaolin practitioners who really know their stuff. And I feel like I was trained into a martial mindset for more effectively from them than I ever could have gotten from the modern US military.
They trained my mind to be mentally prepared for combat with the right intent, and not just my body.
@@offthedeepend3996 Awesome. The Marine Corps also has a pretty good Martial Arts program. (MCMAP)
We're the only branch, (that I know of) that has a dedicated program.
Pat Tillman is someone I hold in high regard. I don’t know him, but from what I read, yes, he was successful and handsome. He has his values, and he had the stones to stand up for them.
He was (as we all are) limited to the information he had at that time, and at that point in time.
Yes, it is insulting (beyond) to me that we pulled out of there as fast and as sloppily as we did, that is undeniably true. He didn’t know that was going to happen. Did any of us?
I lost my nephew due to stress (you know what) a bit after he came home from the war. It haunted him, and I pray for both of them.
In my opinion, the matter in this video is not really about Tillman. It’s about social issues that are more deeply rooted. To be fair, I think the author did say that, though.
Pat Tillman was murdered because he was going to talk about all the poppys that US forces were guarding. He was writing letters home saying he was going to go public when he got back. No problem, he just wont make it back says the higher ups. After all, you couldnt have him going around to all the news outlets, talking bad about W's wars, after they made him out to be Captain America. His position was opened up on. He was wounded, but alive. It was at that point that one of his team mates walked up to him and put a 3 round burst of 556 in his forehead. This wasnt friendly fire, this was murder. I followed the incident closely when it happened. I believe their was at least one doctor who did an honest autopsy and that's why we know what killed him.
I came to the same conclusion in my own investigation of Pat Tillman. Unfortunately Pat Tillman started out very naive giving up his NFL career after 9/11 to join the military only to discover how truly corrupt our government and military industrial complex truly is. Pat Tillman was quite an interesting man and his death was not only a tragedy but a murder coverup.
Keep smoking
Drug dealing is big over there. That's how they fund their men. Jihads don't work for free. Also, Israelis smoke opium. Probably more than anyone over there. The Arabs are the narcos. Over there.
@@ugiswrong😅
@@ugiswrongfed
I feel like he flew too close to the sun. In his mind, he could have the looks, wife, kids, family, career money… AND become a war hero who defended his country from terrorist organizations.
He had already accomplished 6 of the most rewarding things there are in life, but he couldn’t sleep easy at night until he got the 7th.
Having (submitting to) a "wife" under guy-no-centric law is rewarding?
He was like a noob Elden Ring player...too greedy.
@@masterblaster1502Why does Stardusk and people in the comments tout Pat having a wife as some great thing? Hasn’t Stardusk spent a decade trying to explain to men that marriage is unfulfilling?
Having a lifelong partner is great, it's only when things fall apart that it turns. That won't happen if you're always her best option socially, financially, physically, etc, so that's not too hard, right? @@JamesMichaelLuc
@masterblaster1502 it is to God.
One of my formative experiences was going to high school with a girl whose father perished in Iraq. Her mother had since re-married and had two more children which were her half-siblings. I was overwhelmed with sympathy for him and thought about him frequently. Surely he hadn't signed up planning to fall in some backwater hellhole. I wondered if his passing was quick and unexpected or if he writhed in agony for a time. If it wasn't sudden, did he wonder what his family were doing at that very moment? He was thinking of them surely but maybe their thoughts were elsewhere. Did he know as he was losing his life that some other man would come along and take over as head of his house? What did he think about some other guy producing more children with his widow than he had and that that guy would inherit whatever meager benefits his wife was paid for his having fallen in action?
For me I decided that whatever course my life may take and however much of a success or failure I am I'm not going to take that path at the very least.
Poor young men fighting for rich old men.
We call them "Levitic Bankers".
@@WeeG-bwc77Irrespective of ethnicity, all politicians think the same.
I’ve seen a lot of Ukrainian women around Texas lately…
You're lucky. Around where I live it's just a bunch of African illegal immigrants. 😎
Low hanging fruit brah
He didnt have everything...He lacked the most important thing you can have in life...Common sense!!!!
That and the instinct for self preservation.
Those selfless traits are noble they just have no place in a modern society run by psychopaths like Jeffrey Epstein or Harvey wienstien. I have a pat Tillman shirt because the idea is still noble. It's just from a by gone era. BTW they confiscated his journal because he soured on those bs wars
Thank you !
He was self-ending. He just didn't want to do it himself.
Ignorant statement. This man was fundamentally a hero. He did not have the same information available to us and naturally gravitated towards doing the "right" thing
The church I grew up in hit that time when the older generation died off. Going to all those funerals, I couldn't help but notice that married men were remembered for their sacrifices to the country and their family, and their utter devotion to their wives.
Definitely these men were individuals with dreams and ambitions, some of which were realized but mostly not. At the end of the day, it didn't sit right with me that the lives of the manliest of men were boiled down to how useful they were to society and the women around them.
Did these men appear happy and fulfilled? Yes, I thought so, but I wondered.
My best friend's brother died at 46, never married, no kids (like me) and he was sadly a self-destructive drunk. He had numerous friends like me who loved him and who he influenced positively. He lived life on his own terms and was remembered for his talent as a musician and being a great guy who had demons.
So ordinary ppl like us will be remembered by others for what we did for them, maybe some individual talent, and how we uplifted them. But I do not care to be remembered for how thoroughly I sacrificed my life for other ppl or some cynical, corrupt old f--k in government.
RIP Tillman, he deserved better and it was within his grasp Let his legacy be the warning to others that extreme altruism to society and the expectations of others is not virtue.
He didn't die in vain, especially if you do know the deeper truth. He became disillusioned with how he was being used for recruiting propaganda and that his eyes were completely open to the false pretenses for the entire war. He wasn't just hit by friendly fire, he was murdered for the potential damage he could do as an anti-war protestor.
It's for this tremendous sacrifice that he retains his heroic status. Pat Tillman and his brother Kevin are men who were true to their principles. Going back thousands of years there's even the cautionary tale of Achilles. There will always be an Odysseus sent by an Agamemnon to goad you into fighting to defend your pride. So few men ever get to fight a just war against a worthy opponent. Maybe Hannibal versus Scipio was just a legend.
Naw, Pat Tillman was a white night SIMP.
I did see someone on YT make an analysis about Hannibal and iirc, in sum, Hannibal wasn't anything special and made some very trivial mistakes too. You could probably find it by 'was hannibal a good general' or something along those lines.
@brendan........Book ......Where Men Seek Glory , The Pat Tillman Story .
Hm.
Pay Tillman was a bit late for getting Redpilled. He was naive of the WORLD.
We all were
@@ezemdianosike5277 I was already jaded with the world as a teen in the 90's. Probably because my older brother was shot and killed just being at a party. He was 23, I was 6. It's what set fourth my questioning of life itself, especially since no one sat me down and attempted to explain the finality of it all.
Then just a few years later, I vividly remember footage from the Rwandan war that either CBS or ABC news showed of a solider blowing the head off a child trying to get up off the ground while the kid was at his feet.
I'm watching this and realizing it was nothing to him. Just another day at the office. Added to the fact they showed the chaos in the streets with people's severed heads on spikes. Those images were seared in my mind.
@@timbo7873They showed this on the news???
Pat Tillman had it all, but he saw no meaning to all of that seeing a higher calling in serving his country as it gave him meaning to his life and as a man. If your poor and have nothing and no one and still see something else as giving you meaning or you have it all and wwant6 meaning still, then why should we punish men for wanting meaning?
@@timbo7873I guess the 90s isn’t what it was all cracked up to be.
The successful people, the people for whom the current arrangement and system works for, they just want you to be a useful little tool that doesn't kick up a fuss, that doesn't complain, and quietly turns your cog wheels to keep the whole thing running. It's not at all worth it. The approval of these people shouldn't matter.
Brought this up with vets and motorcycle people. They didn’t want to talk about this AT ALL.
I was about to turn 34 when Sept 11 happened. I remember the story of Pat. I admired him at the time. I remember hearing about him enlisting and the like and just said "Wow" and there was a part of me that did indeed wish I could be a "man like him" there was a nod of respect. I remeber hearing offhand that he was killed "in action" over there, blip on the news. No one cared at that point......and then seeing the end....the retreat from Afganistan. I think that was the point when I just quit being capital letter "P" patriotic at that point. Hearing this now from SM, its sad. Just so sad......and we still see the manosphere doubling down on everything on women, sex, gettin' some, the gym, being a boss, living a high lifestyle. Being able to do anything and everything except being yourself. Finding yourself. A large swath of the manopshere, and I was follwoing it ever since the late 1990's with the likes of Martian Bachelor, and DeepWaterWeb......and its just a reaction to feminism and still......at its base...doing stuff to get "women to like you". Great video Sandman
Sandman is a pussy. The MANOSPHERE is right & necessary. RED PILL all the way. Everything else you said is right. God bless!
Patt Tillman was speaking out against the war once there and they ended him because he was someone that had a voice because of his status that's what I heard and read about back in the day, take it with a grain of salt
Not completely outside the realm of possibility.
Best channel on RUclips for the thinking man.
And for the thinking apes
regrettably...
@@user-tb7ml8kz7hYou don't like Stardusk?
No sir common sense says don’t be cannonfodder
sadly yes
The manosphere nowadays reminds me of a nascar, covered in corporate sponsors, going in infinite closed circles, and getting absolutely nowhere.
Almost everyone in the manosphere has reneged on what they stand for in some way and/or becomes outed as a grifter seeing it as a business first, men second. The message is necessary, but those spreading it often have ill intentions or simply spout what they want men to hear to get views and money.
Ironically, whatever thinking ape spoke about manosphere creators, also applies to himself, but I imagine he “excludes” himself from it mentally as a projection (to protect himself from uncomfortable emotions as a defense mechanism to justify what he’s doing, to protect his brain/ego from realizing he’s in the very same manosphere he’s criticizing, and would therefore have to self reflect that he could also be apart of the problem or hold conflicting beliefs.)
For example, when he mentioned that “no one will give a shit about you” at around the 13:45 mark, that’s a projection about how he feels, and also means that he truly doesn’t care about you the viewer as well if that’s how he feels if you think about it. It’s a slip of his mind so to speak.
I would never die for such anti-White system.
Is that what you think they die for? Is that why you think they signed up? They signed up because they wanted a job and to be paid. They signed for fun, adventure, brotherhood and a better future. Goodluck finding that being a waiter at Olive Garden.
@@gravelpit5680 Yeah but the waiter at olive garden is till alive.
@@gravelpit5680 This.
@gravelpit5680 tell me you haven't served in the military without telling me.
@@georged5420 are 99% of OIF vets... bunch of sad logic kids in this video comment section
BlackPigeonSpeaks did a similar video. Agree with you both. Don't fight for this broken system, or die for those that hate you. Your own government hates you more than any foreign "enemy".
Half the gubmint are open dual-citizens to Israel.
"Don't pull a Pat Tilman." - words to live by!
men love to work and rich or poor to have no inner meaning as a man rich or poor means an unhappy life unfulfilled with disappointment.
One of the best pieces of advice upon training for my 1st deployment from a superior was
"Uncle Sam is gonna get his, its your job to get yours."
So what'd ya get, zogbot?
@@Jericho396 Yeah, I wanna know too. Did you get some booty after your deployment? Did you get some combat experience?
What'd you get, boy?
@@Jericho396 *zogbot.*
Well thats a first. Tell yah what since i don't believe you're genuinely interested in what i got ill offer you and anyone else who likes* your comment this.
When our next great depression is fully underway anarchy and bandits roam the streets in gangs dont look to any of us combat vets for help.
Well be too busy working alongside the willing and physically able other men defending what good is left in our country.
Hm.
As a medical professional and a former SOF guy i will say this for all men and especially young men. The human brain is not fully developed until you are about 25 years old. The last part of the brain to develop is the part that engages in impulsive behavior and decisions involving risk taking.
I joined the military after 9/11. I was "HOT" about what happened that day. I ended up serving in US Special Operations. I lost over 20 friends and was ultimately shot twice and nearly bled out due to a severed femoral artery and vein from a gun shot wound.
I've also taken about 11 history/world History/US History classes in college (straight A's) and i've done a LOT of my own personal study after leaving the military over a decade ago.
Do not make impulsive decisions based on emotion. Do not join the military, especially as a member of "combat arms" or in any specialty where you'd be out on a boat or submarine for long periods of time.
Most people get out after their initial enlistment because they get a 1st person view of the military and realize what it's ultimately about. You are a PAWN for very, very, very unsavory people. You could say "Wicked People" and that would be accurate as well. You don't have to take my word for it... watch the Shawn Ryan Show here on you tube and you'll get the same line of thinking.. from him and a lot of other vets.
While learning to fly an aircraft or becoming a Delta Operator might seem like a "Dream" to some... the reality is... it's not what it's cracked up to be.
You will suffer physically and emotionally. Your body and mind will likely be broken beyond repair. Your family will suffer and will likely break.
If you think you are the "exception" you are Dead Wrong.
So you could find out the hard way if you wish.... but hopefully someone will read this and decide to work hard as a civilian and make a life by doing it that way. Do not idolize soldiers and other military personnel. Hollywood GLORIFIES it for a reason. They are all working together to PREY ON YOUNG MEN. I grew up with Stallone and Schwarzenegger films... Chuck Norris... Bruce Lee.... Bruce Willis ... Mel Gibson.. etc etc etc.
Do Not Be Fooled.
Getting shot... losing friends.... having your family fall apart... being emotionally fucked up for life..... having a fucked up back.. shoulders.. knees.. neck... or getting seriously wounded in combat or training, what have you... it's not worth it.
Learn from other peoples experiences and mistakes... their stories.. take them to heart. Don't sacrifice yourself for an evil cause.
If you look at what America stands for right now... WOKE ideology... do you really want to be at the "Tip of the Spear" to spread that around the world ? I fucking hope not. Sure there are things you LOVE about America.. We all have that to some extent in our hearts and minds.. but you need to take the time to think about this country and how fucked up it is... how we fled Vietnam... and more recently, Afghanistan... really think on it. What did we gain? What did we lose? What did we cause? Europe has been flooded with muslims who do not respect Europeans... the people.. their culture etc.. and have historically gone to war against them. America has been flooded with people who don't share our values or culture or identity or pride in our heritage. Western Culture is BEING REPLACED. When you focus on foreign wars .... you lose site of your own country and all of its problems. You don't see them before it's too late.
Look at how bad the inflation is here... look at how easily we were sucked into this 20 plus year GWOT. The Patriot Act... losing our personal privacy because of our emotions after an event that was probably orchestrated by our own government to distract from trillions of dollars that had gone missing and to initiate the war machine for profit and power Without End against foreign fighters at first but now a machine to label its own citizens as enemies of the "government".... when our country used to be FOR THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE. Law Enforcement used to SERVE AND PROTECT.... Now it seems to largely serve its own purpose and the purpose of the "government" not the PEOPLE.
I'd say get into a good profession and don't rule out the Trades. Get good at a trade and start your own business. Getting into a trade is quicker than going though 4-6 or more years of college.. you'll have less debt.. get to work sooner... and you'll be paid well. Save... invest.
My fear is that we'll have a Military in the USA filled with illegal immigrants who have no allegiance to the nation and its people, rather they are beholden to the government giving them a pay check and commanding them to do whatever the whims of the government are.
So it's a damned if you do, damned if you don't when it comes to REAL AMERICANS joining the military.
We're in a really perilous situation presently.
Wise words.
Make the effort to read this everyone
muh 25-year-old brain is not fully accepted in the life sciences. there is the Woozle effect going on hard.
@@badgerattoadhall Look it up dipshit.
the ones who brag the most about honor, sacrifice, and hard work are too often the one's who tend to exploit it, and use virtue as a mask for tyranny, it's never one side over another, just those looking for the opportunity whoever they are wherever it is
Pat Chadman's amazing life resulted in him having an optimism bias which resulted in him making the naive mistake of joining the corrupt military of an evil nation, ruining his heaven on earth.
that's right, he believed in the just world fallacy
BINGO! He was a white night simp
Chadman😄
@@friend-like-me So not only did he physically resemble Flint from G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero, but he even saw the world through innocent rose tinted lenses similarly to how a hero from a kids cartoon would see the world.
I will not fight for woke socialism.
Ahhh, can you define ‘woke’ ? Apparently no one on the right is intelligent enough to know what they’re against.
Ironically what you call woke socialism is a symptom of unchecked, corrupt, syndicalist capitalism
I wouldn't even fight for non woke socialism. If controlling and arrogant elitists think they're so much better than me and know what's best for society, then I'd sit one out and let the paternalistic "experts" do their own fighting.
All honesty the overall topic of this video is the only thing keeping me alive and I’m grateful that Stardusk even continues to make content like this. Mar. 2017 was my acceptance of this knowledge being shared and knowing I can be the man I want. I can’t even listen to the phrase “a real man does” without burning with anger. Due to that fact as mentioned is this video men in Ukraine have been slaughtered and for what reason. All I want to be is a man who goes his own way. Who gives a shit if anyone approves. Internet guru or not. May the gods be with you Stardusk. Thank you for all you do.
Pat Tillman's story always made me think of Johnny Rico from the film startship troopers, except Johnny survived the war in the film.
His story reminds me of "The Cole Train" from Gears of War.
I remember this story and I also read that his death was no accident.
@Jabbaro Book Where Men Seek Glory - The Pat Tillman Story . Good read !.
@@bengunn3698 Thanks.
How can they tell us that "We should act like men" when they don't even know the definition of what a man is?
Not only was the war in Afghanistan a complete waste of money and life, but it made the Taliban even stronger and more well-armed than they were before. In 2001 There was the Northern Alliance, and now just some token underground resistance movement among some of the Tajiks and Uzbeks around the Panjshir Valley. The Taliban has modern Blackhawk Helicopters, night visions uniforms, M4 rifles, Humvees, etc all left behind by our forces, and the United States Taxpayer (most likely you and me) paid for it without ever having the option to vote on it or not.
To each thier own. I fought in an infantry unit. I should have been careful what I wished for, but I have no regrets. I wanted to be tested in one of the true arenas. Most men understand this deep down. I no longer have that question in the back of my mind.
"Our enemies kill themselves."
I don’t have regrets; The veteran benefits are worth the hassle, though experiences vary among vets. After high school, I didn’t have many prospects either.
However, "War is a Racket" by Smedley Butler is a worthwhile read for those considering military service. Having served in the GWOT myself, it's important to note.
That s**cides among active duty members and veterans resulting from the GWOT now exceed combat deaths. This highlights a significant reality, especially considering the GWOT isn't distant history.
Dude they FAR exceed combat deaths. like 120,000+ of those compared to like 6,000 combat deaths. It's insane....
Any bar bar shout out is a win.
Thank you sir, for respecting our forefathers.
Stardusk is one of our forefathers.
@@thisoldgoat3927I was literally about to say the same thing 😂
They don't know Stardusk's history 😅
What happened to Barbarosa?
Their early conversations were gold
I was 21 years old when 9/11 occurred. I am so thankful I didn't fall for the hype and enlist during the war hysteria.
I shudder to think I could have ended up injured or worse in some hellhole on the other side of the globe. Or, if I came back only to end up a PTSD riddled broken shell of a person with no help from the VA.
@@megacide84 good man
Thank you for your service in keeping us younger men in check. Your decades of wisdom really shine through in videos like these.
It really is a tough world for men right now, but in many ways there are far more options that just didn't exist before. We just need to keep seeing the glass half full side of things to keep going.
Cheers, thinking ape!
I got out of the infantry in 2021; you, and spetznas made a lot of content that helped me come to that decision. Thank you.
Spetznas ?
@@BEEETRUS He was a content creator who worked with reforming violent criminals his whole life and made content about the kind of beliefs that keep men trapped in the machine.
@@punchosaurus7015how did he come up with his name? Spetznaz
Is he still active?
@@Me-eb3wv sadly he's dead now star dusk made a video about him
I just listened to the audio of Estar Vilars..a Manipulated Man. This was perfect timing as a lot of whats said in her book correlates with a lot of what you say. You, Barbarosa, and Groundworks to the metaphysical were a major part of my current mindset. I was one of those like Tillman although I joined in June2001 and in bootvaml we weren't told about 9.11 until we graduated. Just wanted to say glad you're still around and actually giving solid knowledge.
@@mustaphakamara2806 On RUclips I was listening to the audio book. It's a couple of hours. Yet it's extremely entertaining and informative. Thanks for the info I'll definitely look into that one also.
Clearly, he watched 👀 Rambo too many times. 😳
Standing on one's principals is vital to maintaining personal integrity. I respect Pat Tillman for his choices. I would not have made the same choices he did, knowing what I know now, and many men are with me on that.
I remember him. Much like the veterans of WWII who died to save Europe from Hitler, and I do hate to say this, died for nothing. I was an American soldier in Iraq in 2004 so, it really pains me to admit this. Men were not hated in 2004, or at least the internet wasn't filled with hated - filled women as it is now. I despise Biden for helping the war in Ukraine to continue. Without American interference, that war would have been over in 6 months, as it should have been.
I learned this myself. I stopped living through people I see. " It's still YOUR life" never forget that.
Most traditionalists are larping like the pick-up artists. Don't fall for it. Tell them that you are not interested in relationships or children, and watch how upset they get. Watch them show you how happy they really are.
Tradcons get upset just as quickly as blue haired feminists.
Yes. Do not die for a gov/system that hates you.
Pointless;
I agree.
Great take.
I will not die for pissrael man
Pat Tillman may have died for nothing, but he was an inspiration to me and to lots of young men in America. Great video ❤
Patriotism is Stockholm syndrome
BINGO! Pride is a sin. Patriotism is against GOD!
No, we love our country, but we hate the government.
@@grim9488 sorry, i can’t hear you over the sound of my FREEDOM 🦅🦅🦅
I am a medically discharged (mental health) veteran (Australian Army) of 23 years service.
I agree with you entirely.
Don’t fight wars started by politicians. (good men sent to war by lesser men)
Absolutely superb video, thankyou so much.
Getting men to understand they have a choice and don't have to be a disposable provider anymore is so important and you put it in such a blunt and clear way.
They should share this in schools
Every male in my family has served. I will be the last, telling my son not to bother. What did we get for our service? Not the same country my father served let alone my grandfather.
it's exactly the same country.
@@cyberpunkalphamaleNo. Everything’s changed
And of course there are those who say they've found out he was actually executed because he was saying that he was going to blow the whistle on the corruption and lies going where he was stationed. So he not only discovered that he joined based on lies, but was executed for threatening to expose the lies.
@@Oldhogleg 💯
I didn't get along well with my father growing up. However, he taught me to think for yourself. He was drafted to Viet Nam, and always told me what a waste of life it was--so many of his buddies thrown away over there. I would hang out with my friends and I had another friend whose dad told me the exact same thing. The lesson stuck all my life. Be careful with any authority figure--they all want you to work for free to enrich them. Its just that with fancy marketing.
All lives only have one promise, an end. What it is filled with between point A & B is largely inconsequential.
Momento mori
Pat did not come back home. I am one person who is thankful to come back changed for the better. I feel the ambitions of my family left to me and choose who i want to be.
I continue my life with these thoughts in the back of my mind. Heroes like him are watching and wanting me to continue to do what I believe is right.
Pat, you did not die for nothing. You stood for something, and that gives me the strength to fight for what I believe in.
The story of this guy opened my eyes many years ago.
And now both parties are talking about a draft (the GOP actually passed a draft for males only in their latest defense bill; at least the left is talking about drafting females as well) so they’ll be sending more young men against their will to perish for nothing. The fact that a draft is even being discussed is acknowledgment of a failure on the U.S.’s part. And I especially have a problem with them drafting young men with the enmity that average men are treated with in this society.