Finding Faith in Moral Orel: A Short Retrospective
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- Опубликовано: 10 июл 2024
- Moral Orel is a show that is as unheard of as it is misinterpreted as many are quick to reduce it to a simple parody/satire of a certain section of America without taking a sufficiently deep look at what and why the message really is. I wanted to make this video not just to organize my personal take on the show's themes, but also to share it in a way that hopefully others find constructive.
It's a great show, and I don't recommend it to anybody.
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00:00 Intro
SEASON 1
02:33 The Lords Greatest Gift
05:14 God's Chef
07:47 Charity
10:28 Waste
13:19 The Blessed Union
15:45 Omnipresence
18:17 God-Fearing
20:57 Loyalty
23:40 Maturity
26:19 The Best Christmas Ever
SEASON 2
29:20 God's Image
31:57 Love
34:54 Satan
38:05 Elemental Orel
40:13 Offensiveness
43:29 God's Blunders
46:37 Pleasure
49:25 The Lord's Prayer
52:17 Holy Visage
54:56 Be Fruitful and Multiply
58:03 Praying
1:00:32 Repression
1:03:10 Turn the Other Cheek
1:05:49 Geniusis
1:07:18 Courtship
1:09:57 School Pageant
1:12:32 Presents for God
1:15:11 Orels' Movie Premiere
1:17:36 Nature (Pts. 1, 2)
SEASON 3
1:21:04 Numb
1:24:05 Grounded
1:27:16 Innocence
1:29:32 Alone
1:33:17 Trigger
1:35:39 Dumb
1:38:20 Help
1:40:39 Passing
1:43:16 Closeface
1:46:00 Sundays
1:48:26 Sacrifice
1:51:28 Nesting
1:53:57 Honor
1:56:28 Outro
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Music Used:
ToHo Bossa Nova - Shibyan Records
The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind OST - Jeremy Soule
The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion OST - Jeremy Soule
The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim OST - Jeremy Soule
HOME - Odyssey
The Sims OST - Marc Russo / Jerry Martin
Maplestory OST - Wizet
Maplestory 2 OST - Nexon
Volume Alpha - C418
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The dog was the second coming of Christ. When Orel “dies” and enters the empty church, he hears Bartholomew’s bark. It actually hit me harder than the “Love” episode.
Meaning Clay Puppington killed the second coming of christ 💀
@@blubox2424 technically the doc did.
then clay judas'd him
You also hear when Orel is deciding what to call Bartholomew, that under the barking, the dog is stumblingly trying to say "Jesus Christ." The adults of Moralton wanting to kill Bartholomew because his exuberant and unconditional love threatens to undermine their own structures and sense of authority is a very cutting parallel to the asceibed reasoning for the execution of Jesus.
@@blubox2424👁️🫦👁️
I have to say I love the “You’re nice!” boys. They’re adorable and wholesome.
I loved the "Nothing weird goin on here!" line by orel
How
@@thekivster because it was hilarious and wholesome
it was gay as hell
and i’m fucking here for it
"if the Lord were alive today he would absolutely have been bullied in middle school."
As an autistic person i immedeteatly recognized both shapey and orel as being on the spectrum in my own headcannon and i think theories based around that add alot to the psychological and societal meaning to the overall story. In considetation of the way they are neglected/abused especially within the religous space
I was just showing this to my gf, and she commented that Orel might have been on spectrum too.
It’s not a headcanon, they quite literally are autistic lol
Being on the spectrum I've also took notice of this, I remember way back then in my childhood with this show airing at the time.
I could relate to him in a way, I didn't receive a diagnosis until 2017 though so I wasn't even aware that autism was even a thing back in 2007 when I was age 8, my father allowed us to watch adult swim shows and allowed us to play M rated videogames; I played the first Assassin's Creed, Fable 2 and Army of Two to give an example.
@@ChrisJFilms Autism comes in a spectrum, the condition can most definitely be less noticeable in others; showing more subtly.
@@Im-BAD-at-satire he’s probably ADHD
As someone who grew up religiously (pun intended) watching the show that Morel Orel parodies, "Davey and Goliath", this show has always had a layer of extra meaning for me
Davey and Goliath was a bit before my time, but I absolutely still get songs from Veggietales stuck in my head to this day.
I think the creator has said its more of a parody of "Leave It To Beaver" than "Davey and Goliath" but the animation style is definitely reminiscent of the latter
@@viedogaems every time I see a water buffalo I have flashbacks
I wonder where this rumor started. Dino has said he never watched that
I’ve been trying to remember the name of that show! Thanks!
I don't completely agree with your take on the depiction of Nurse Bendy, Ms. Censordoll and the Teacher.
I do agree that they fall on the classic characterizations of the tragic female character, but I think that for the time it was a very nuanced portrayal.
You yourself have said that s.a victims really liked the episode for its simpathetic depiction of the characters, and, to me, it does characterize them well and explains their behavior in a very good way by playing on their depictions in previous episodes.
Censordoll's control freak nature and obsession with controlling every single thing and everyone around her to an overzealous degree is a coping mechanism because of her trauma, since she lost control of her body at such a young age, this made her become manipulative, bitter and insecure.
Bendy internalised the opinions of everyone around her who considers her an idiot, even her brother Daniel thinks it, wich might imply some psychological abuse at home in her youth, and thus she regressed to the state she is.
She is not a confrontational person and all she wants is for people to accept and like her for who she is, so she goes along with what everyone says and does every thing they ask, including sex.
Later we find out that she was impregnated at a very young age, possibly 12, by a man who was probably in his 60s at the time, who groomed her with compliments, feeding on her insecurities and abandoning her after he did the deed. This influenced her lifestyle and behavior a lot, she might even have become a nurse hoping to get closer to him, wich obviously did not work out as she wanted.
It was implied in the episode were Doey fell in love with her that the teacher is just lonely, probably for the same reasons as Bloberta.
They are in fact very symilar, she used Doey in a symilar way and for symilar reasons as Bloberta did with Clay.
What makes her more tragic to me is that she probaly got too close to her aggressor because of Doey in that very same episode.
She is a lot more straight forward than the other two, but just as complex and saddening. There are women who are like her and who suffered the same thing unfortunately. The saddest thing is that if the show kept going she might have found happiness thanks to a jail guard who fell in love with her and accepted her surviving son as her own, as it was revealed that she actually had twins and aborted only one of them.
It's also sad to know that she did the abortion on her own cause the town might have judged her and ostricised her even more than she already is...
This a sad thing that happens in reality too, more than we like to admit.
what makes me like this episode even more is that it was made years before the "me too movement", wich is why it was seen as off putting and too much by the executives, wich shows their double standards.
It's fine to show rape in an adult show as long as it's for COMEDY, but when the writers point their fingers at you and make you feel shame for laughing at it in the previous episodes despite the obviously increasing realism in the series it's apparently too far.
I see this episode as a statement, they made jokes about this stuff on purpose to make us feel bad after seeing this episode and make us all reflect afterward.
Maybe I am seeing things that are not there, but it makes sense to me.
Alcoolism and toxic relationships were also jokes at first, only to make them realistic and make us think about the world and ourselves and our moral standards.
sorry for the long comment btw
After making the video I find myself second-guessing my own opinions from it. It just shows Moral Orel's strength as a show that it can depict things in a nuanced enough way that opinions on it can evolve.
After more thought, I believe the reason they took on the "overplayed" traumatic tropes for many female side characters was explicitly to make much-needed commentary on them
Also, no need to apologize; I love long comments.
@@viedogaems
oh, well thanks.
I am glad you liked my comment and I do agree with your opinion on the overplayed tropes and the plausible reason they used them in the show.
Moral Orel is amazing, it not only criticised the bigoted Hypocritical nature of biblethumpers, but also the state of modern adult comedy shows by using tropes of similar parodies of the time and turning them upside down in an unconfortably realistic way.
The creator of the show openly said that he wanted to do the opposite of what the Simpsons did, who from a sophisticated and nuanced adult comedy show that depicted very serious problems became nothing more than a crude parody of itself as the years went on.
Moral Orel did indeed do the opposite of the Simpsons.
Despite originaly looking like a crude parody of religion and people who believe in God, it became a show about true faith and how to find it even in the darkest of places...
It's a beautiful message and if only it came out today it would have blossomed to its fullest potential.
But I am kinda glad that it came out in the "wrong" time, cause it helped break the conforting edgy bubble of the spectators of those days, paving the way for more mature shows in the future.
Unfortunatelu, there are still people who think "edgy" is the same as "adult".
Wich is why more and more "adult comedies" are still utter garbage who tek from the worst stuff shows like the Simpson, Family Guy, American dad and newer shows like Rick and Morty introduced.
They could have seen stuff like Moral Orel and Bojack Horseman as things to be inspired by, but instead they chose the path of lowbrow humor (a thing that Moral Orel also made fun of with the fart "lost episode")
This whole comment hit the nail on the metaphorical head.
@@twocentsmiguel
thanks.
Sometimes I feel like I can't really debate stuff. (or maybe I am afraid of conflict)
But I guess I can be pretty good at it if I am talking about something I really like.
I'm sorry but I conpeltley disagree with the view that moral orel started off as a show mocking religion, it had always been about not parodying religion but rather parodying those who misuse it, not just that but the shows beginning is so formulaic and "basic" in nature because they wanted to mind fuck people following the show as the show would slowly devolve into a crazy mess
Edit: Also the pilot episode was the Christmas episode adult swim didn't just sign the show cause it fit the "edgy and typical" adult swim stereotypes
It was slow at first, but season three really fucked it up tbh, least favorite season.
@@XSlimSxadyX While I would disagree with you, I see your point. The tight time co sytaints definitely gave it a rushed feel
@@Dave42069 I figured as much thanks for being respectful about it haha
Have you seen Davey and Goliath? Moral Orel straight from the get go was mocking that show and it’s all religion
Oh
I think you're onto something about Orel and Clay's relationships to pain, but you missed something crucial in the Clay's Bar Rant episode. A big reason for Clay's constant assault on everyone around him is as a product of his own relationship to pain as indicating his value. The other men almost fall right into his goals by hitting him, but their decision to instead just leave echoes his father's "You're not worth it."
Orel and Clay is weird, mainly because you’re expected to see that Clay beating Orel is his fucked-up version of him expressing he cares about his son, but there are also episodes where Clay explicitly does not want to beat Orel because he either didn’t do anything wrong or because he’s starting to like it.
Personally, I think Clay does care about Orel (even if he’s a horrible, horrible person), but he also knows under the surface that his seeing pain as care is not healthy. It’s part of why he’s so susceptible to everyone around him, including his wife. So he does wanna make sure that Orel doesn’t like the pain like he does.
Everyone's interpretation of this show is so different. I could watch Moral Orel analysis videos covering the entire series, and get something different and valuable out of each one.
This show has so much to say about white, evangelical, small town, Americans, and their implications of the rest of the country. We should all be talking about it more.
The bit where you talked about "good things happen to you if you're good" is something in Christian circles called prosperity doctrine. One of it's core tenants being of course that if you believe in god, and are Christian enough. Nothing bad will happen to you. This flies in the face of what the Bible actually says. Adversity is everywhere. And the world will not always accept you.
Really loving plenty of these moral orel analyses we r getting!
Same, i wish the creators would remake it but i understand
I’ve been mindlessly watching Moral Oral content but you broke this down to a T and I’m grateful to have came across your video. I’m definitely subscribing.
As a religious catholic I love this show. I related to a few things from it especially people using religion as a way to excuse their actions that are bad. I see this show as not mocking religion, but mocking the people in real life like the ones in morelton. I go to a catholic school with a religion teacher that made school hell for me and to other people. And I especially love the ending scene with older Orel because he got the ending he deserved and still kept his religion after all that he had to live thru and I find that very inspiring
Something I want to say about Orel, is something that’s a bit dark. But this show made me realize that my own father was abusive to me. This show ironically, led to the death of my own innocence as a kid. As there were a lot of cruel and unnecessary things my father often did that I never understood beyond the context of “me being a bad person who deserved punishment.” It was the point where I first realized that I was in a horrible situation that nobody should ever be in as a kid. And I sometimes wonder if the creators knew this show would have that effect on someone.
Apprently, Scott Adsit's (Clay's VA) sister is a devout Christian and made him quit the show bc she heard it was saying it was anti god and religion.
She apparently didn't watch it and made the decision purely based on what she was expected and told to feel rather than created her own perspective.
Which may be the most accurate real life depiction of something the characters of the show would do.
I’m still hoping this show comes back even though it’s been discontinued for years now
After watching the analysis, I’m astounded by both the quality and scarcity of people who have taken their thoughts to the comments! Excellent work!
I would also add that the lesson that Oral gets from Repression isn't so much about him, it's more about Clay's inability to take accountability-the mindset that he's a "good person" is directly linked to how his mother treated him and how he instilled his narcissism.
i can already tell this is gonna be one of those videos i watch like every six months
i’m back 1 month later
I was expecting a little more look at the theological symbolism in the show by the title, but this was really interesting! It's fun to see your perspective on each episode.
One thing in particular I've always taken from the final episode, though I'm unsure how intentional, is that it's somewhat of a tie in to the very first. Coach Stopframe's reasoning for why Orel should respect his father is that despite everything, his father made him. I've always taken this to be directly connected to the "Lord's Greatest Gift" being life and somewhat using Clay as a symbol for the Father and God of the Old Testament, with Orel being the Son. In a way this also connects to the ideas expressed in Nature, specifically the non-character ones. Not only did Orel see Clay for who he was, he also saw how heartless and cruel the nature that God created can be, and the fact that life feeds on life. "I'm sorry Mr. Bear, but my dad's a jerk!" and the final scene where he's eating bacon with the bird outside always stuck with me for some reason. Anyway, I digress.
Another thing that I've always thought was that Joe's outburst in "Orel's Movie Premier" was a way of responding to fans of the show that just saw the characters as completely flawed and/or the show as purely mocking religion and spirituality. A perfect lead up the deep humanization of the characters in Nature and Season 3.
Again, not sure how intentional these moments are, but stuff I've thought about. I could go on and on, and to fully remember all of the things I picked up I'd have to rewatch it and take notes haha. I've seen people speculate that even the whole thing with the eggs is intentionally using the Easter related idea of the egg representing the rebirth of Christ, relating to the whole "Life" vs "Death" and Censordoll calling Clay a hunter and herself a nester. Anyway... ramble over. Thanks for the video!
It’s strange with all the influx of content around the show to bring up all these weird hazy memories when I caught the show as a kid while never realizing how much there was to it.
After watching this vid I’m inspired to go do a full watch now that I’m old enough to GET it. It’s extremely compelling both when it’s just joking around, having heartwarming moments, or depicting the bleakness of it all.
Also I’m vibing with the inspired choice to include the Maplestory OST several times throughout
I would say I love misnomer named videos but honestly you gave this show as much attention as it deserves at near speed run pace. This is one of the most comprehensive and attentive video essays I’ve seen on the subject
Good Stuff man; I can't believe you could fit such a detailed retrospective in such a short time! You could have just made a two hour video that very many people would just have glossed over, instead you very cleverly found a way to get your point through in under half an hour (:
Insightful video! So many RUclips essays claiming to 'review' this show merely recap it. But you've given me a deeper appreciation of the series thanks to your giving it a proper intelligent analysis.
I thought the ending with Orel having a happy family and still believing in religion was a really interesting way to end the series, as someone who was never particularly religious, certainly never raised that way, and later denounced religion, it was interesting to see a perspective on it where, like another retrospective on the series here on RUclips said, the series was never about Orel learning to hate religion because it’s not a religious parody, Orel was never mad at God, it was always about the other people in the town that used their worship of God to handwave away their actions and their atrocities, thinking that if they just believed in God enough that somehow that would make it okay, they warped religion for their own selfish benefit, and as an Atheist, that message even touched me a little bit, seeing that Orel was able to find faith in something that many others in his situation surely would have assumed abandoned them, even though I could never believe that there’s one singular God being, the idea of “hate the sinner, be fine with the sin” in this specific circumstance rather than “hate the sin, love the sinner” is really interesting, something to think about anyways.
I think also (and this is tangentially related to my previous point) that the whole “lesson” that I just inferred is totally lost on anyone who follows the religion faithfully, they won’t understand that the criticisms are likely ABOUT THEM, if 99.9% of strongly religious people resemble what was shown in the show, at least to some degree, then most of these people will assume it might be about all those other people but it’s surely not about them and the people they know, and what’s funny is that that’s kind of the psychological side of the show, much like this hypothetical person on making up, the people of the town were ignorant to the way they warped religion, you can get any faithful Christian to admit that sure, some people from their faith do bad things, but when it comes to examples like in this show where they’re committing sins, where maybe it’s morally grey, or perhaps it’s even “endorsed” by the Bible (homophobia, for instance, and in that case, I use the word “endorsed” loosely), much like the people of the show, they handwave that away.
I love Moral Orel for so many reasons, and I loved hearing you talk about it!! I loved hearing your thoughts, and the video format was great! God I want this video to blow up, it needs wayyy more views and comments. Excited I found your content!!!
I think the real lesson of Morel Orel is that it’s not God or religion that make the world a better place because those principles along with politics and consumerism can be corrupted and often have negative influence on humanity more than good
but love, compassion, understanding, and trust between people that we become our best selves.
So in a way Orel’s journey was realizing that religion is not the solution to his broken life, it can’t save his family, it can’t save his friends, it can’t save his dog, and it can’t save his love for Christina. It’s Orel. It’s Orel who cares about his brother, it’s Orel who loves Bartholomew, it’s Orel who loves Christina, It’s Orel who befriends Stephanie, It’s Orel who saves the doctor, it’s Orel saves his father even after everything he did to his son, and it’s Orel who makes friends with his father’s lover .
Because he’s Orel and that’s just the way he is not what god tells him he is.
Hell even his father can’t turn him against his grandpa because Orel trusts and loves Arthur as his grandfather regardless of dogma and that is what defines him and the show as a whole. Its good people that make people good. Not religion nor god
There seems to be a rise of interest in this show in recent years
Btw this comment was originally posted on another well written moral orel oriented video a month prior
(I can send you a link to the video if you want)
Words can't describe how I felt during the course of the show
Although Season 1 may have felt a bit basic, linear and even repetitive sometimes
It was overall what I'd expected when going into this show for the first time(but I think you should rewatch it for reasons I'll get into later)
But Season 2 felt like an over haul/improvement and it did a great job with introducing and bringing back various characters whilst also giving them a chance to develop in various episodes throughout the show
And Season 3.....
NOW THAT'S A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT EXPERIENCE ALL TOGETHER
But it overall gives you a completely different perspective of the characters, especially when rewatching Season 1 and sometimes even Season 2 as well
But overall Moral orel is a breathtaking experience that I would recommend to those interested in the genre
i love how many new moral orel analysis videos i’m seeing 💘
I binge watched moral oral not even a week ago and I genuinely really enjoyed it. I love how many RUclipsrs are now covering this show.
This is a really, really good analysis, actually; really enjoyed the video!!! It’s so cool to see everyone else’s take on the show
I like to think bloberta does care for Orel, she cried after answering his question about marrying Clay so... Maybe she cares as much as a neglectful mom can
I’ve been loving all of the recent RUclips content about this show. It would be so awesome if enough people could convince Dino and adult swim to make more episodes or something. Just wishful thinking lol. Love this show and great video dude
I absolutely love these videos of looking into this show
Mad respect to you for going over every episode. Other videos ive seen on this show dont do that
This was very nice. I like to listen to stuff like this when I get ready and it was great!
Dude idk how u only have 17k subs cause literally this video is super good like I listened to it in one go good job especially making it a long video
Didn’t get into until a couple minutes in but the video so far is fucking awesome good shit man!
Thank you for using the Oblivion OST... This was a fantastic watch 😍
a nearly 2 hour long moral orel video? HELL YES! excited to finish!
This is probably the best video on moral orle it says every thi g that needs to be said while not being a 24 part video
what a short talk about morel orel
dude, this video is great! i really enjoyed listening to all the points you make, and it's made even more impressive by how small your channel is!
i forgot i commented! ive come back to rewatch and this video hold ups great!
this is by far one of my favorite analyses of moral orel! i really enjoyed the 5-10 second clips before each episode analysis, it really brought me back to when i was watching the show myself. something you added that not many others has is the shows take on the concept that “if jesus were alive today, he would have been crucified the same way”. this is something i’ve always had in the back of my mind while watching and i’m glad you brought it to light! i don’t usually leave comments but i thought i would share my appreciation, hope you’re doing well!!
Blue Eyes White Jesus was always my favorite Yu-Go-Oh card.
Cannot believe you only have 600 subs awesome video 👍🏻
Looking at the end credits for some, the one for close face in general is very wholesome, as it ends with Orel and Christina dancing together.
That opening line hooked me in immediately
I literally dont even watch this show but I still watch your videos cause they're amazing. Thanks.
😵
I needed this video
At timestamp 45:23-29, you say that the Old Testament account of Abraham’s attempted sacrifice of Isaac [Genesis 22:1-14] is “ the last we hear of Abraham in either book [the Old Testament, or the New Testament]” - from which, you conclude that his failure at God’s test means “the story’s over” for Abraham from then on.
At the risk of being called a too-too-questioning “god-tard” like Orel’s pal Timothy, may I point out that Genesis 22:1-13 *_isn’t_* “the last we hear of Abraham in either book”? Have you forgotten about Abraham’s numerous _subsequent_ actions and experiences?
From this point on (starting with Genesis 22:15 and extending got three whole chapters after that), Abraham …
… /a/ gets yet _another_ angel visit before leaving the scene of the incident (Genesis 22:15-19: this is _after_ the just-previous one where a previous angel had told him to stop trying to kill Isaac),
… /b/ gets news of numerous new additions to his brother’s family (Genesis 22:20-24),
… /c/ has his wife Sarah die (stated to be at age 127, for what that’s worth) , and therefore quickly goes through some real-estate negotiations to buy a gravesite ASAP (Genesis 23:1-20), then …
… /d/ successfully arranges - through some rather more complicated negotiations - a marriage (for his son Isaac) to a woman in another territory: whom, , apparently, neither of them had ever met (Genesis 24:1-67), …
… /e/ himself takes another wife (his third, it so happens) and has six children with her (Genesis 25:1-2), … and only then, finally …
… /f/ himself dies at age 175. (Genesis 25:7-11).
All this can be calculated to have taken, in-narrative, about four decades - since the narrative had previously established that Abraham was ten years older than Sarah (Genesis 21:5) and her death at 127 had been _after_ Isaac’s near-death: making Abraham 137 years old at the time she died (give or take a few months, because we don’t know anybody’s birthday), and therefore making him no older than that age (in-narrative) when he tried to kill his son. So we’re talking about at least 38 years which, in-narrative, were hardly blanks. Please tell me why you summarize this as “the story [of Abraham]’s over,” and what conclusion you would have drawn instead from knowing that it wasn’t.
my source was a random tumblr post
probably should've double-checked that
Appreciate the fact-checking, though.
@@viedogaems In the interests of further fact-checking: I trust that you won't mind if I point out a similarly large inexactitude (to put it gently) in your statement at timestamp 48:23-48:28 that’ “ of course the word ‘discipline’ itself is derived from an instrument is derived from an instrument used to whip one’s own back.”
As you will easily see from facts and sources gathered at the link below, the name of that notorious instrument (christened the “disciplina” by those who instituted its use) does in fact derive from a previous (in fact, the earliest) meaning of the word: which (at first, in its long-ago Latin origins.)simply meant rom "instruction” - till, over generations, the meaning gradually shifted and shaded (the mouths of those who tortured to teach, or who were therefore tortured to make them learn) from “instruction,” to “punishment with the goal of motivating someone to comply with instruction,” to "punishment" itself. (If you think about it, this is the same semantic evolution - or devolution - that we see in the today in the English-language colloquialism "to teach someone a lesson"!)
In other words, thename of that torture-tool (used to this day by certain religious orders) was not the earliest earliest use of the word, use of the word, but in fact was one of its latest uses (historically speaking). See got yourself, through the word’s actual previous long history, aming sources cited here:
www.bing.com/search?q=Origin+and+derivation+of the+word+discipline&form=APIPH1&PC=APPL
@@KateGladstone bro I appreciate the academic rigor but you could be a bit more decipherable with your language
Bruh, this is a 8 paragraph essay on how the channel is incorrect in the comment section. Although I agree.
tl; dr
Thr oblivion music just makes everything you say in this serious video sound like NPC dialog in my head when you play it.
the darkest show ever made
If 1:59:08 is a Short Retrospective, I'd like to see the Long Retrospective now.
Nice vid I really liked ur insights
SHORT?! MY MAN, THIS IS A 2 HOUR VIDEO! And I like it a lot :)
A “short” retrospective. That’s a joke I really love you for making this thank you
" A short retrospective" Is longer than 110 minutes. A.K.A., longer than most films.
Bro there’s a chapter every two minutes😭😭😭
No worries if you don't do this often. I'm newly subscribed and here for the ride.
your description of the viewers of the show is totally true.
I have been watching so many videos about this show
“A short retrospective” **two hours long**
1:13:08
the thumbnail is just a zoomed in screenshot of moral orel but it still forced me to click. why is this effective?
This video was amazing
I like the way said "Alone." lol
ah yes a short analysis on moral orel just 2 hours long thats very short
I love how you say blobertas name
It is incredible for me as a devout Christian to dissect Moral Orel. Every episode has a theme that can be related to both history and theology. The history is the line of truth about the hypocrisy the Church and mainly church-goers have throughout history. It’s the failure of the people, not the faith, that leads to misinterpretation and outright dishonesty of the scriptures. You can actually use the Bible correctly to teach good sermons. For instance: A very minor episode had Orel praying, but he learned about Buddhist meditation and it allowed him to be more calm and focused on his communing with God. He was told it wasn’t a good thing, but in truth, prayer is a very open ended concept. It’s the personal connection with God that matters. Being on your knees with hands together isn’t mandatory. Oreo had a better communication with God than he every had because he was willing to try a different way of praying to Him.
This series has never been to attack faith, it’s to attack the hypocrisy. This is clear in the final scene where we see Orel kept his faith and was a happy husband and father.
You can derive meaning from every episode that relates to actual Biblical theology and even the different philosophies of great Christians throughout history. You just have to dig deep into both the show and the Bible to find them.
For me what really sells this show more than anything else is something the show's creator said he wanted to do. Echo the reality of the early Simpsons.
One of the more memorable episodes of The Simpsons for me was one where Bart was being informed he was going to get held back. And he goes all out studying his hardest to try to pass exams so he wouldn't be held back. Afraid of how he'd be bullied relentlessly for it and the stigma of failing the third grade would get him.
And in the end, despite all his hard work, he failed. And that moment always stuck with me. With him crying his eyes out saying that he really tried to his teacher. And his teacher recognizing this wasn't just a case of him half assing it as the class delinquent like usual and giving it some recognition. But... he still failed. He was still going to be held back. Sometimes things don't work out, no matter how hard you try. Sometimes, you pay. And sometimes a kid gets hurt and is crying his eyes out as the illusion of invincibility and "everything will work out in the end" is finally shattered for them in that single simple moment. Or lessons like "You can do anything you apply yourself to" are shown to be false. Kind of like that moment in "The Joy Luck Club" where the mother points out that the daughter can't just quit being a chess prodigy and pick it back up months later. That practice did matter and you can't achieve things just because you feel like it.
Morel Orel was full of those moments for me. The hunting trip, obviously being the chief among them. Or just how Orel realizes his father is a mean drunk and wonders why anyone would ever love him. Or even just the fallout in the finale of Clay declaring his love and how flat it falls. No big reconciliation or moving on to a happy ending.
And because of that, it makes the other moments stand out more. Like for me the bit with the Reverend and his daughter.
"I hope it goes better than it did for me."
"You can't compare what you went through with Orel and his little Orellette."
"Why, because we're two girls and acceptance is just an act?"
"No, because she never cared about you."
Those moments of love and humanity that stand out even more and have more significance than it would in a general "everything works out" story.
It's great that Moral Orel, despite being one of the darkest shows to air on television, ultimately contextualized that darkness by giving enough hope here and there to avoid coming across as pessimistic; If everything was grimdark all the time, it would lose that extra bit of relatability that grounded its events in a way that people could connect to. It's impossible to see yourself in a situation so devoid of happiness and thus, easy to distance yourself from the events of the show. But having that extra bit of realism is what made the show feel so personal to so many people. Because the real world is a really messed up place, but it's also full of beauty and happiness as well.
Hey, you also taught yourself to read at a young age? I taught myself to read around 4 years old, from Sesame Street and picture books. My mom, my school, and everyone else thought I was the weird one. Fortunately, I had teachers that understood, and encouraged me, unlike poor Orel.
I wonder who clay would've been without bloberta. We never see him as an adult before drinking and before her. Could he have come out okay??
I think as long as he stays in Moralton or a town like Moralton, he was probably doomed from the start.
It makes me curious as to Clay's relationship with Stopframe. It is seemingly the only somewhat positive relationship in his life, as the sexual aspect of their relationship is only vaguely aluded to and not overtly shown. That being said, I don't think Daniel would've been as persistent or caught feels if they weren't engaged in something physical. Clay's sexuality isn't explored much, but its safe to assume he is a closeted bisexual man.
Going back to the relationships that only hurt him, I suppose besides the sexual outlet the relationship had - there is also Daniel encouraging the alcoholism (maybe priming him for being more open to sex) and of course manipulating the situation with Bloberta to birth Shapey. Clearly Shapey adds lots of grief to Clay's life but he is very slow to put all the pieces together. Not sure if that revelation made him more into Daniel or what - as that suffering and toxic behavior may seem appealing. "Like wow, this guy must love me alot to go through all this shit to cause me grief - I'm loving this attention!"
I wish that aspect had a tiny bit more time, as that was one of the crux issues with the Puppington family and exploring the psyches of Bloberta and Daniel would've been interesting. Hell, Shapey should've had his own episode at least.
Anyways, despite the foundation for their relationship, Daniel seems to wake up after seeing Clay 'cheat' with Censordoll and simutanousely realize how deeply infactuated he was, slowly becoming disllusioned with Clay as the episode progressed. I think his and Orel's relationship would've been great to see more of - with Clay seething in the background or something..
@@viedogaems I find it amazing how in fiction, people will analyze & accept how one's society affects them, while always *excusing* the same things in real life. The difference being we dismiss the real life effects, &/or blame them on some fringe minority influence, or say that these things can't be helped.
While analyzing how that's what's wrong with these fictional characters.
The examples are endless. But I've yet to find One Other Human being who doesn't flee from looking at life the way they analyze these fictions in utter terror. It doesn't matter if a person thinks of their Core Beliefs _as_ beliefs, social pressures etc. They *all go into* Fight or Flight mode whenever a single aspect of them are questioned & defend All Aspects Of their core beliefs in nothing but defensive mannerisms.
Exactly like Clay (& everyone else in Moralton).
This is fire
I love your voice sm
Love these retrospectives!
Morel Orel is the greatest show on Adult Swim, thanks for covering this absolute coming of age masterpiece.
i recently watched the entirety of moral orel because i thought it was gonna be another silly adult comedy to pirate on youtube, but i've been so pleasantly surprised by the actual running plot of this show, especially considering its cancellation and all. i wanted to say that the thing i've found to love about this show is that its not a statement against religion, its a statement against humanity and people who use "religion" as an justification for intolerance and wrong doings. moral orel isn't saying "religion is bad" its saying "people are bad", it speaks on generational trauma, the pressures of maintaining a nuclear family, and the mental downfall caused by peoples focus on the social ideal of living the american dream.
anyways, great video! you have a very nice voice :] gg
"a short retrospective"
Literally as long as sitting down and watching half the series, lul
Other examples are
Stephanie makes Putty good father and man
Nurse Bendy makes Joe into a good son and kid
Shapey and Block become good brothers
And (if they hadn’t cancelled the show early) Officer Papermouth would have made Bloberta a better wife, mother, and person than Clay ever could.
And in the episode Trust it’s Arthur who becomes the father to Orel that Clay never was and ever will be.
Because love and trust makes us family
I love long retrospective’s 20mins just isn’t enough 9-10hrs is way over enough I really love them
2:00:00 hrs is short to me lmao 🤣
It naw I’m watching this now ❤
really hope you had talked about abstinence and the script of the lost episodes as well
Sometimes it's okay for an episode to just be funny. Also, you can't just dismiss the religious aspect of this show, it remains important throughout but the way it's important changes.
40:19 I think this was less of Beforel Orel being planned in the works, but more due the later planning of Arthur later coming into the series after season the show hadn't had been cancelled
This show needs a revive
I just finished listening to the audiobook version of "A Child Called It". Orel reminds me of Dave sometimes. Just...less gruesome and not so happy ending.
Is that the Champions of Norath Title screen playing in the background
I honestly appreciate the lack of pandering at the end of the video. You know what they say, I won't use the moral oral phrase but I will say if you can't best a quote in a situation, then use the best one you know. Robin's words hold so much weight to them as we found out how much he was suffering. I always loved this show when I was young and watching it on adult swim (I'm 34 as of this post today) as a teenager and loved it but didn't get the dijection part....yet.. With the slow killing of Orals heart and innocent nature into trying to be stamped out by adulthood (no one really gives a shit about how you feel about or percept life as a mostly human experience that causes you to numb and reject life of you or others), with it slowly trying to tear Oral down. It is amazing in encapsulating some of the worst parts of us as people with out making you feel judged, lol but yes depressing. Also one of the best ways a song ever being used in the feature of The Mountain Goats "No Children " and besides my own life I can only imagine the two parental figures of Oral being scorned and hollow in the wake of midlife existentialism and nihilism. And this is why I don't have friends anymore haha.
Hii, this video was rad
Two hours is far too short, I need a longer retrospective 😡😡😡
I was wondering why your voice sounded so familiar your the /vt/ anon who sang some stuff. Crazy shit didn't think I'd be watching stuff from this channel after I left /vt/. You put out amazing shit dude.
When I was growing up this show was called DAVEY and GOLANTH.
"Short" is doing some fucking legwork in your title there buddy
Your theory at the beginning about why the characters and writing were so low brow (being that they were trying to weed out those who werent committed to watching or w/e) has already been debunked, as the creator of the show outright said he was inspired by the simpsons and the flanderization that the characters went through in that show, going from being the most "real" american family on tv, to being sanitized and dumbed down to a few characteristics each with nothing important to say in the show anymore. He said he wanted to do the opposite of what happened to the simpsons, so starting off with the characters being dumbed down and then slowly making them more "real" across the series.
if this is the short version. how long will the long version be?
I think young Mr puffington is neurodivergent like me. that if you don't explain things to precisely and properly and exactly through scientific and logical means you will always leave confusion and an opportunity for misinterpretation because you did not give a direct understanding or logical response for the inquest given. All throughout my life this has gotten me in a lot of trouble with a lot of people because most people just don't like to tell the freaking truth they don't like to be honest and when you push them for it because you simply can't understand why they're trying to lie it breaks them and they lose themselves because they realize that no matter how hard they try to throw up their emotional and psychological defensive Shields you're not going to be swayed or deterred by them you're just going to keep barreling through and hammering at them until either you get the answer or they run away. For the most part I've only ever experienced people getting so flustered and pissed off and angry with me that they start screaming at me what the actual answer is because they're just too tired to try and lie or run away. Orel on the other hand everybody just runs away from him. It wasn't until the hunting trip that young Mr puffington finally had his dad break down and maybe didn't give him the answer he wanted but definitely gave him the answers he needed
little weird seeing orals father casually carry a luger
1:56:42 which episode uses unoffical models? Genuinely curious as i've never seen it before
If you have a link to it at all please send me it ^ ^
I believe those were from the post-credits shorts made by Orel himself.
53:46 the Skyrim background music😂
I also realized there's Skyrim music in the video
You think railways didn't predate housing developments? Or bridges and major highways aren't put where they are out for other reasons?