Unpacking Moral Orel | An Underappreciated Masterpiece
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Looking into the simultaneously hilarious and dark anatomy of the 2006 show Moral Orel.
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TABLE OF CONTENTS:
Intro: (0:00)
Season One: (5:20)
Season Two: (22:19)
Season Three: (48:03)
Conclusion: (1:13:45)
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Danzi: Wind Quintet Op 67 No 3 In E-Flat Major, 2 Andante Moderato
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The Forest and the Trees
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Winter Reflections
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Vivaldi - Credo: Crucifixus
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Smoother Mood
Windswept
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"it starts off rather innocent with orel getting addicted to crack" by far the weirdest sentence in this video.
Not "Orel impregnating the entire town's women with a baker's pouch"? Or smth close?
@@blessiemasancay4818 that's certainly a contender.
This is going to get deep
Weird....Why tho?
@@Remorsefullyhumble you're weird
"Your mom likes your dad?"
Jeez, that line hit me.
I thought it was kind of funny ngl
@@Lil_gremlin_ it was, but the delivery was like a punch
brutal man
it's kind of my fear if i ever miraculously get a partner that ill start to stop loving her or something which is kind of why i start to get scared when i don't like my crush as much as i used to
me too!! I had a similar one growing up: “your parents sleep in the same room?”
it hits hard
Carolyn Lawrence (the voice actor of orel and sandy cheeks)
Once stated; “There are moments where my heart broke for Orel while I was playing him, He touched me emotionally more than any character I’ve ever played.”
bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat, sandy cheeks from spongebob is orel!?!?!? mind blown
ow
That hurt my heart I never knew Orel was SANDY CHEEKS
@@LoRosa0224turn the other (sandy) cheek(s)
Cindy from Jimmy Neutron too
Even if clearly the show wasn’t meant to end that early, I’m still glad to see that by the end, after everything that possibly happened after that last confrontation, Orel got to break the cycle of abuse.
Hard agree. As much as I wanted it to continue, I like the ending
I always found it brilliant how the show starts with the horror trope of a Zombie take over, but a simple camping trip was the most terrifying thing that took place.
Damn.
Unfortunately, it is easier to deal with zombies then it is with someone you are supposed to have unconditional love like your parents.
Lol frfr
@@laurakiner3942you say that now
It gets realer and probably why that's more terrifying
Literally just realized that the reason Orel never got punished for any of the laws he broke (and people he literally killed) and instead Clay just got to take him home is because Clay is the fucking Mayor.
"Stinkin' dead end job..."
Took me a while to connect the dots, you'd think it was quite obvious but I'm also quite dumb
How much $ does clay make then, since he always seems to lack or just a cheapskate.
@@berniekatzroy Have you seen his study? He wastes every cent he can spend in booze and weapons
@@alucardsantradideus267 oh
I find it comical that with Orel's, the dads, the pastor and other mens stories were told it was just 'off the wall' but the plug had to be pulled when the WOMEN started to have more of a storyline with their trauma.
Also deeply fucking misogynistic
this is absolutely transcendental humor
the reality is the punchline of the fiction it's trying to warn us
Yup Alone really makes me hate AS because r@pe was totally fine to show when it was played off as a joke in season 1 but when they showed the very real aftermath and affects it has on the victims, it’s too much and gets the show pulled.
It’s genuinely psychotic that from adult swims perspective it’s more ok to joke about rape than it is to seriously talk about it
Its sad, but also wholesome that Orel has his family framed on the wall. Despite all the abuse and neglect he dealt with throughout his childhood, he still honors them with a photo. Even Block And Shapey get their pictures on the wall. Block, even though not biologically related, is still considered a brother to Orel. One could argue that it was Christine that hung it up, but I like thinking it was Orel since we don't see Christine's parents present.
I like to think shapy and vlocky got a happy ending too.
@@snowqueen51
Pretty sure they did^
In the photos, you see that Shapey is now a police man and Block is a firefighter. Both of those positions involve helping people and they seem to be happy
@@willieboi. police man….helping people….lmao
@@bubbles4897Jesus christ atleast try to be a little optimistic, not everything has to be the worst that it can be
@@bubbles4897poor little guy. Life is shit when you act like that. I would know
My favorite “ joke” from the series was the reverend praying for a woman to love forever, but instead of a wife he gets an adult daughter
He got everything he asked for 😂 minus the sin
He wanted a women, so he could have a family. He wanted the fun time inbetween, but fate gave him what he needed
Florence wanted to be with him but he rejected her :(
@@iluvpink1176 Florence was also cheating on her husband, trust me the show would have elaborated more on the story. No one in Morelton is clean or pure.
And he was just desperate for affection, and she offered it. Clay even shames him later for it XD "Must be some desperate sap, who feeds of the desperation of the women"
:’) it’s really sweet
It’s one of my favourite Orel scenes. That, all the best things start with F, Family, Friends, Faith and of course Fucking and sometimes we’re greedy and we want all the F things, when we aren’t happy with the F things we already have. Reverend could finslly have 3 of those things now. Family and Friends, his daughter and Faith.
I wouldn’t call Nurse Bendy delusional. She is coping via age regression. She knows the stuffed animals aren’t actually people, she is attached to them because they comfort her. She functions as an adult outside of her house, but clearly it takes a lot of emotional effort and she needs a way to de-stress and process in an environment she finds safe.
Also I love Mrs. Secondopinionson’s voice. I’m a trans man and I have a higher voice than I want. When I’m trying to make a good impression I deepen my voice via lowering my larynx, for the same reason she pinches her nose. Not all trans women have a high voice, estrogen actually has little to no effect on your vocal cords, so her voice would make sense in the context of an overstressed trans woman who doesn’t have the time or energy to voice train.
and when she finally finds and connects with her actual, living, breathing, biological child, she starts to heal and it makes me cry every time
That’s one of my favorite episodes in the series. It’s really cool to see her break through moment when she connects with Joe
@@rowan-priince1860 You're right that estrogen has little effect on the vocal cords, however testosterone does. Transwomen who have gone through a male puberty can compensate by using a falsetto register like countertenors do, but transmen may have more difficulty, lacking the scaffolding to produce the lower tone, unless hormone therapy can replicate a male puberty if taken soon enough.
Its a delusion all the same
The scene of clay saying I love you to the coach but still being unable to say it to HIM (by saying “I love you… Orel”) and the coach immediately losing any semblance of hope for clay in his eyes breaks me. Clay is a horrible disgusting person, but the coach was the one non-destructive force in his life and seeing clay’s acceptance of losing that as he enters his house with his wife he hates and kids he feels nothing for is really heartbreaking. It really is showing the karmic force of the show, saying clay was not worthy of this last little bit of happiness he had.
It was supposed to cont.
Had it not cancelled i do believe it was stated the parents would've ended up seperated with different people
Jesus dude, are you okay?
Dunno how you can see any of this show and blame individuals rather then the culture of rejecting yourself for 'religion'
@@whwhywhywhywhywhywhyThey are not mutually exclusive. You can acknowledge the unfair background someone came from, and still hold them accountable for their own actions. Clay is an adult.
@@bananasinfrench I agree with robert sapolsky when it comes to crime, punishment and free will.
also Clay is a clay figure, not an adult. The writers clearly wanted us to feel empathy for all the awful lives of their characters.
Bartholomew being symbolic of the actual type of acceptance and love that Jesus preached for and being thourughly rejected by everyone in town except for Orel is just...so good
Dude's never read revelations.
@@huguesdepayens807 God is just. Revelations is the end times.
I always got the impression that doughys parents got married as teenagers just to avoid "the sin of premarital sex" and are only together for that reason
this seems more likely to me than being so madly in love that they neglect doughy. Plus it might be reflective of their inner immaturity. They have an immature view of sex and marriage which emotionally/mentally stunted them and even as parents theyre not able to fully mature and grow past high school maturity. And doughy pays the ultimate price. No one in moralton cares about any of it because theyre not having sex outside of marriage and thats all that really matters to anyone. I doubt anyone in moraton, as miserable as they all are, even envy their relationship because its so obvious that neither are playing with a full deck and aren't truly living up to the ideal nuclear family.
yesssssss I THINK THIS TOO@@elleofhearts8471
@@elleofhearts8471 pretty sure that was pretty plainly stayed. Hell, his last name was Latchkey
I can’t believe you forgot to mention during the camping trip with a drunk father, he simply utters “I hate you, dad.” Finally not just backtalking but accepting that he doesn’t blindly love his family anymore, in fact, the opposite, and he’s not afraid to say it. Also coach telling Orel that his dad did one good thing, make him, finally giving Orel his own internal self worth, not external from the church or his family.
I made some mistakes, but this is something I didn't actually forget. I probably should have said something myself, but instead I tried adding that clip in for full effect. For whatever reason, though, Content ID kept copyright claiming that part.
Honestly i feel like Morel still blindly loves his family
He just isent blind to their actions, hes waking up and isent a Blissful child. But he still loves them, hes the kid of person who would learn to hate themself before others
This one stayed with me the most.
Coach stop frame was probably one of the best characters in the show at least for that moment alone. He was able to give the young boy an understanding that honor isn't something that you're given or earned it's something that you need to find for yourself
The closure of Orel and Coach was so heartwarming. Not only did Coach finally cut off a toxic person, but Orel finally had a decent male figure in his life.
I didn’t even realize when watching the show that when boberta hit clay the that first time and said he needed her help, that he felt cared for not because she was helping him but because she hit him….
That's probably because (if you've watched this entire show) Clay's father used to hit him and Clay used to take that as a form of affection.
You're right oh my
I can FEEL orels discomfort around his dad, it's too relatable.
Yeah, my father was also a horrible narcissistic alcoholic who beat me, so yeah, it's pretty relatable, sadly
@@hairlessgrizzly559I hope you’re having a good life and doing well
56:34 Nurse Bendy was raped by Joe's father the doctor when she was a little girl (12 because she's 24 and she says he's half as old as her) which is why she regresses. Her whole breakdown is behind that. This episode is really heavily based upon these women's trauma with femininity and motherhood
i resonate with *so* many of the women on the show, but especially Bendy..
@@colorblockpoprocks6973 Im so sorry about what happened to you, I really hope that you do better and get the justice you deserve
Glad that she got a good ending on the show
@@redjoker365 her and joe :)
IM SORRY (Slams hands on Table) FUCKING 12?!?!
My favorite part of the camping trip is when Orel looks up at clay and says “I hate you” he’s finally acknowledging the truth about his father and let’s himself feel his emotions instead of constantly denying them. I’m so glad he breaks away from the generational trauma and goes on to have a happy life
My favorite part was when he said “ITS MORAL TIME!” And started orelling the bad guys
@@yuriscynicism omg so true bestie
That scene was incredible and tragic at the same time because after oral says to his dad "I hate you"he lost all respect for him which is understandable considering clay shot his own son which could have killed him
@@animezilla4486 Right but it also is a huge thing because as a devout Christian Morel always held the belief of honoring and respecting his father and seeing his father as a pathetic vindictive destructive drunk and tries to twist his deplorable actions as possible to Orel.
Hate away sister, hate away
The best part about the camping trip is when clay struggles to take his belt off to spank oral, it shows how his drinking suffocates his ability to love even in his own vindictive way
The bathtub of blood was pretty obviously the children surrounding the tub cutting themselves to fill with their own blood. They are the innocent children, with Doughy even passing out from the blood loss.
something important to note about Nurse Bendy is she's a CSA survivor. That's also partly why she's so regressed. She was a *kid* when she had Joey
Wtf
@@highdefinition450 and he’s so old, it’s actually terrifying
@@Vinestaffsupport mhm.
It also makes the way she just dissociates when the men in town have sex with her so much more uncomfortable.
I went to check the wiki to see how old nurse bendy is and she is 24, Joe is 12. She gave birth when she was 12.
I feel sick.
The fact that Reverand Putty of all people was one of the few people who grew and bettered himself as a person by the end of the show,was the real plot twist.
Honestly your right
He was a misguided man, but started to wake up as the stiry went on
the only downside is the fact that he's racist
Totally agree
his character development reminds me of the ice king from adventure time like its literally the same thing
@@mistyglasses0.063 No.
42:24 "so hes the worst character and i hate him" this man said what we are ALL thinking. it doesnt matter if clay had a bad childhood (which was actually pretty good until he accidentally killed his mom). that is no excuse to get shit faced and SHOOT YOUR SON IN THE LEG.
He's horrible but there are reasons as to why he is horrible, namely his dad and Bloberta specifically which did a pretty good job making me feel somewhat sympathetic towards him
@@bigmannn2443Bloberta is responsible for her shitty life but she isn't, in my opinion, at fault for what happened to Clay. He was already broken because of what happened to his mom and his dad being abusive towards him. Her offering alcohol to him was just a trigger, he would try it eventually and probably become a horrible person eather way.
Don't forget, also blaming your son for your shooting him in the leg.
Clay is simultaneously a terrible person, but a brilliantly-written character
1) You forgot to mention the scene after the credits of Season 3, Episode 13 where Orel packs up all his claymation gear and gifts it to Shapey & Block.
2) I found the ending to be surprisingly heartwarming. The final line is “every once in a while, a miracle happens” as we see Orel’s age progression; ending on a shot of Orel happily married to Christina and has a loving family.
imagine Clay and Bloberta living together after Orel, Shapey, and Block moved out. the deafening, deadly silence.
God that is daunting
Sounds like heaven to me
Well originally before the show got cancelled bloberta was supposed to end up with officer papermouth
I don't think Shapey and Block are going anywhere :(
@@drf6377 Not true. If you look at the pictures in the frames in the final shot. Shapey became a cop and Block a firefighter. I like to think that Orel stepped up to raise them in place of Clay and Bloberta. It's only head canon, however, I base it on Orel being the only one to ever show concerned with their well being through out the series. Also them moving onto jobs that help others seems very Orelesk in my opinion, suggesting his influence in their upbringing.
1:11:24 ok the subtle humor of a *reverend* having an "I hate my boss" cup is simply next-level
true
Lmaooo
I always loved that
Also "reverend wins eating contest"
The sin of Gluttony 🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿
The finale really shows how much strength Orel really had. His life was miserable. But he eventually had a family that loved actually loved him. Definitely one of my favorite series finales I’ve seen. And I’m honestly glad it ended when it did. Before outsiders tried to mold it and change it into something it wasn’t. And it’s one of the show I hope never gets revived. Better to go out on a high
28:11 I remember as a kid our pastor told this to my sister after one of our cats died and it legitimately traumatized her pretty badly. Neither of us go to church anymore as adults.
I had a teacher at Catholic School tell this to a girl who’s dog had just died.
@@leannechambers4064I am so sorry for what happened to you! As a christian I believe animals go to heaven to. There is a psalm that says God preserves everything (or something like that) which would include animals.
I understand you had a bad experience, but you shouldnt just abandon church. It helps us grow and stay sharp in the Lord! I personally think that animals go to heaven to, as a psalm says something along the lines of: God preserves everything. That would mean animals to right? I dont know.. but we will all find out someday. God bless you sir or ma'am. Jesus loves you and your sister very much!
@@mariagil2170 I’m personally much happier now that I’ve permanently left the church.
@@mariagil2170 the reasons I don't go to church extend far beyond that one little incident, the main one being I disagree with what it teaches.
as a kid i always thought orel's dad was secretly the devil. the red velvet robe, the fact that everyone was either terrified of him or just outright listened to him without question.
Honestly I actually believe that- his hair line makes it look like horns as well
I thought this too, and now I'm shocked that was not the case. 😭
Glad I wasn't the only one
turns out he was just a politician after all
other stuff that i feel go with this headcannon/interpretation:
-Hes often lit in with red light or actual fire
-his den/room/pit of hell is a dark place with open access to sinful things (weapons, alcohol, expensive or indulgent items like the velvet robe as you guys mentioned, forbidden knowledge if you consider the bookshelves or the """truths""" Clay teaches him, etc.)
he constantly lives in a hell of his own making
a job and lifestyle that he deeply resents, people that remind him of all the decisions he regrets
made to forever think about and look at reminders of what he despises
-dissapointed and was disowned/ distanced from an important paternal figure (ok thats prob reaching as far as the satan parallel but you get what i mean)
-temps the pure offspring with sin and actions they both feel are wrong (tempts him with killing and using violence, instills a shitton of values that would make Orel just like him, etc.)
and acts as a test of their faith and purity
One thing - in the segregation episode, Orel doesn't burn down the rest of Moralton, it catches fire because the fire department refuses to put out the fire at the Figurelli house and it spreads. The adults blame Orel for the fire because segregating the Figurellis was his idea.
Yup
I think this show is a great textbook example of "real horror disturbs the comfortable and comforts the disturbed." I've suffered through my own religious trauma from K-8, so it definitely speaks to me. I wish adult shows would be more actually adult in this sense these days. Btw, to all the trans women in the comments saying they relate to Ms. secondopinionson, you're all queens and beautiful as hell. love you
you can't change your DNA. XX and XY are immutable, sex chromosomes can never, and will never, be changeable
She isn’t trans
It being pulled after Alone makes that saying hit even harder
Honestly, as a trans woman I actually really enjoy Ms. Secondopinionson's voice. I actually find it really nice that despite having a voice that's not coded as feminine, her family just accepts her as a woman without question. And I honestly think the phonecall voice gag is cute and even kinda relatable. In certain social situations I find myself pitching up my voice too.
And yeah, I can definitely see how Miss Secondopinionson's "masculine" voice and the phonecall bit can read as kind of tone deaf, especially by today's standards. But at the same time, she's still a well developed character who's a kind, nurturing soul to her little brother, and aside from Stephanie is one of the VERY few adults in Moralton who could be considered well adjusted. If she's canonically trans, she's one of the very few examples of trans representation in mainstream media that's done with any sort of taste and not as a punching bag.
As a cis gay male I most likely cannot relate to your struggle at all, but I always found it insulting to trans people when others will disparage deep voiced trans characters. I can't imagine how painful it must be to be a trans women with a deep voice, and every time you get a smidge of representation in anything, everyone is calling it "insensitive" and "hurtful" to potray trans people like that. That your deep voice is nothing more than an offensive joke, and that your existence as a trans person is invalid because you're not feminine enough.
Maybe I'm completely off base here, but that's how I see it from the perspective on an outsider looking in.
I'm trans and honestly I was more bothered by the reaction of the video essay then the joke itself. It's real. It's a struggle. Everyone in the show is facing real problems and issues, sometimes comedic and sometimes very much not. Stuff like that shouldn't be off limits imo, and seeing a trans girl be 'right' in every way except their voice feels more humanizing and empathetic then making a trans character with no struggles to pass or appear feminine.
Fr, I loved her voice it was just so iconic for me and memorable.
Honestly as a trans femme, kinda envious of it
As a woman, you're not a real woman
i’m sobbing over the gay people they were so cute “you’re nice 😘” “you’re nice 😘”
Right? My wife and I quote this to each other all the time. In fact I made some shirts celelbrating them. meromorphic.store
I knowwww 😭 and the fact Orel saw nothing wrong with them and just accepted them before Joe started being a dick
It was annoying as hell
@@mdtisthebest6249 ok
@@mdtisthebest6249 no bitches ? 🥺
Something about Morels dog that really hit me was that his death is supposed to represent how the romans executed Jesus. He did nothing but spread love and even “cured the sick” (the girl in the wheelchair). His popularity and message of love made the adults (roman’s) angry because he posed a threat. Which is the exact reasons why Jesus in the bible was executed. So the same people who make their lives revolve around Jesus and being holy became the ones who killed him, metaphorically.
The dog called himself Jesus. It couldn't be more on the nose
The town isn’t Jewish and they aren’t making the government kill the dog so I didn’t get the message
@@magicman3163 You do know that Jesus... was a jew, right? He didn't create Christianity. He was Jewish, he celebrated passover, his mother and father were Jewish.
@@grandempressvicky6387 he was like Martin Luther his group branched out from the original branch and modern Jews are different since they have new books like the Talmund that advocate that they are the master race and Goyim must be killed or raped
@@grandempressvicky6387 Don't use logic. It'll confuse and anger them.
I love that this show creates a state to portray a " fake view of Christian values" at this state is literally right where I grew up and I can promise you that all of the values portrayed in the show or exactly what I would throw as a kid. Is peak irony I love it! 😂
Yup. It's very close to the state I grew up in as well. I can concur.
@@Meromorphic I moved out of the"small town" I grew up in and now living in a metropolis city. I can promise you the way I start describing my town is " this racist town I grew up in" and then when I explained the situation, everyone agrees that it's racist as hell disguised as " Christian values"
@@jordanford9320I am a convert to Roman Catholic, and I find it disgusting what the hell some areas, particularly the south of America (I'm British) has warped the word of a loving lord. God wouldn't want you to be inherently hateful towards anything. He'd be angry at you for being needlessly horrible to someone who hurt you in the past. It's almost ironic.
@@jordanford9320 I dont think its fair to compare your ENTIRE small town to being racist, thats not fair, just like if i called your metropolis city a "overpopulated poop covered zoo that has too much crime"
i think it's because i didn't grow up in America, i live in the Philippines but I've never met christians irl except two of my teachers whose worst trait was just thinking being gay was a sin like this so it always confuses me when i see stuff and comments like this but it's disgusting when i think about people using God's word and lying about it for their own use. it's ironic because we're taught to have the utmost respect for Him and you have pos like the people mentioned doing the complete opposite of what they pretend they follow.
ngl it really hurts to watch this video and read the comment section but it's not like i completely don't understand
I kind of like the fact there's no resolution with Orel's family at the end. Sometimes you don't get everything in life wrapped up in a neat little bow. It shows that you don't need things that way either, that despite having a horrible childhood there's still hope to grow up better.
i understand that Clay is a huuuuge piece of work but hearing him crying, pleading, reaching out to the coach with "I love you" never fails to just shatter me.
Yeah, sympathetic villain stuff with him. You really hate everything you’ve seen them do but knowing all the stuff he went through and how truly sad that moment is. Knowing his whole story never justifies his so shitty actions but damn does it make moments like that hit so hard. So much feels there.
That's how toxic people do it. They can be huge monsters but they have the ability to tap into your sympathy. Plus I think he might have actually had real feeling for Coach so there is some genuine love in his speech.
I don't buy it. I never bought it.
It's amazing how they managed to portray someone so broken, with everything out in the air explaining how he got there, and yet maintained how he's irredeemable. Just like some people in real life, he's too far gone, beyond saving. And I don't think a show before or since has ever portrayed such a dark reality with such nuance.
I could feel bad for him
At the same time,all I could think was,wow... This man is truly pathetic,isn't he
6:39
Fun fact!
Orel’s abusive/toxic family was actually inspired by Butter’s abusive/toxic family (from South Park)!
Damn I was thinking this was like butters version of the story.
Like orels parents look so similar to Butters
Source on that?
@@odnill like what season and what episode
Yeah... I noticed the similarities
@@hipsterelephant2660in the south park episode “butters’ very own episode”, it has butters go into his dads study and learn a lesson about lying. its very moral orel aesc because butters’ dad looks almost identical to clay, and the study is similar as well.
a lot of people speculate that moral orel is based off of it because the episode aired in 2001, and moral orel came out in 2005.
I adore the “Buddha” segment as I see it as Orel realizing he can think for himself and be his own “god”. It’s one of the few times we see him at peace and it’s very similar to my own journey overcoming religious trauma
By replacing one religion with another?
@@huguesdepayens807Although Buddhism is qualified as a religion, it’s really more of a lifestyle than anything. It’s the idea that the world is already perfect and that one must accept themselves as they are in order to find inner peace, something no one in Moralton has been able to achieve. Orel was attaching too much of his self-worth and spirituality to a physical building (the church), when in reality he doesn’t need to. Buddha wasn’t trying to convert Orel, just telling him that his relationship with God is whatever he wants it to be, and it’s not dependent on outside physical forces.
great video overall but im a bit surprised that nurse bendy's rape was not analysed or mentionned at all even though it was hinted a lot of times
i think it plays a huge part in how we understand this character
I like to think that it kind of represents the way that rape isn’t always talked about or shown by victims. Most victims of rape remain silent about it and do their best to proceed with a “normal” life and a lot of people never even find out. You can’t look at a person and be like “yup, they’ve been through something” so I think that’s sort of what happens with nurse bendy which is the complete opposite of the school teacher whom’s abuse was publicized and thoroughly talked about.
The fact that his brothers grew up to hold careers and have stable lives makes me happy. ❤
Me too, Rachael Ross. Me too. 😊
Where did you see this
@@xijinping3317 at the very end of the last episode, you can see them as their jobs in picture frames, shapey as a police officer and block as a fireman
I thought I was the only one that notice!!
thats very nice and heartwarming tho
Something I want to add is how the storylines themselves also represent Orel's loss of innocence. In the beginning, a lot of the episodes are super outlandish events that would probably be made up by a little kid. They're probably Orel exaggerating real events, hence the 0 consequences. Before Orel loses his innocence, the worst horror he can imagine is a zombie apocalypse. But by the camping trip, when he has lost all his innocence, the plots have become much more grounded in reality and Orel realizes that the worst horror is actually real life.
True.
Maybe ptsd and he skewed his views a bit. But by the end he "grew up". So everything is crystal clear and aside from reprecussions we see its because his dad was mayor. And he pretty much has his family get away with anything
That’s funny because I used to watch this show when I was a young kid and stayed up too late. I actually forgot about it until now
that part where his mom tells him his dog won't go to heaven hit me so unbelievably hard because I've had that moment before and i obviously didn't take it easily. I've had more of my dogs die than i can count and the question of whether or not they go to heaven constantly hurt. i believe they do go to heaven but it makes me want to cry thinking about it
this show is honestly so unbelievably depressing
The kind of show you wish had a longer run but don’t feel too beat up about it. Truly a masterpiece.
my absolute favorite bit from "nature" is when clay initially asks orel what happened, he responds "i got shot by you". notice how he words this sentence to make clay more passive and indirect in his actions, possibly even pinning the blame on himself for his dad shooting him. then later, clay asks orel if he killed the bear. completely fed up with his shit and his view of his father irreversibly changed, orel responds with the direct "no dad, you killed it." such a subtle thing but it kills me
did it kill you.. or did you get killed by it
And that added element of Orel trapping Clay into taking credit for killing the bear, and therefore admitting he also shot Orel.
Brilliant use of passive vs active voice
not to sound rude, but how is it subtle?
its not layered dialogue, clay literally says "orel, what have you done?" to which he responds "i got shot by you dad". like, yeah, he does shift the blame into himself, but thats after clay sets orel up to take the blame in the first place. especially since we have already been shown clays pov on blame and authority figures on the episode where principal fakey cheats on his wife with nurse bendy
i mean subtle as in it wasnt something i noticed on my first watch, maybe some people did. imo changing the way a character structures their sentences to show how they're developing is a subtle detail especially in comparison to everything else that happens in nature
I just realized: if Christina is Orel's counterpart, and she appears to be a loving partner, parent, and Christian at the end of the series like Orel, then she likely went thru a similar journey as him.
Kinda interested in what her life was like.
I bet it was probably the exact same as what oral went through only with a few slight changes she never went on a hunting trip and what happened with her brother moving in with the puffington family apparently was a good thing because it meant that she still had a way to contact orel despite them being apart so they could reconnect once they had ditched the perspective horrible families. Not to mention let's not forget the end we see block and shape he became a fire chief and a police chief respectively for a couple of kids who had serious neurodivergent problems that is honestly heartwarming for all of the crappiness that their families had Christina orrell block and shapy all actually got a better life than what their parents had originally set them up for
I have a theory that Christina's life was, for the most part, Orel's life but instead, her abuse and revelations came from her mother and not her father. Perhaps her father was too overwhelmed with work and, growing up in a Christian household turned Jewish (Don't ask lol), I know from experience that it's always the mothers that are expected to tend to the daughters because daughters are "emotional", "unreasonable" and "overreactive". Therefore, I imagine Christina would be either brushed off or chastised when she'd have an opinion or call the town/her parents out. Maybe she got into mischief like Orel did at some point too and would get cleaning as a punishment, rather than spankings.
Also, maybe, there was a parallel to the camping trip like a "Girl's night" or something under that umbrella of gender stereotypes where Christina had a similar experience with her mom.
This is all speculation though, but I have thought about it quite a lot.
Moral oral?
Nah. Christian christina
I'm glad you brought that up ☝ because I noticed when Bloberta went to switch the boys, both wanted to stay with her. It implies that Christina's mom was probably a worse mother to Blocky(?) than Bloberta was to Shapey.
@@alexandriahunt6058 that's something I never really thought of before but yeah clearly their family must have been horrible enough for both kids to decide that they want to stay with the puffingtons. That means that that mother must have been even less caring than bloberta
I just found this show today through a video talking about the banned episode ''Alone'' and it shook me so I had to look into this show more. And now I'm even more shaken. This really is masterpiece and I wonder why more people aren't talking about it. The shows story scares me but then the moments of hope feel even more special. I have no words to descibe how I feel after watching this. I watched the whole thing in one go and couldn't stop. This was a very well put together video. Though when talking about the episode ''Alone'' I think it would've been worthy to mention that the nurses segment also showed how she was a victim of SA at probably a very young age as well. Otherwise excellent video!
43:10 I'm going off the context in this video, but this dialogue is actually kinda brilliant, as I'm assuming he's describing both his relationship to his wife and alcoholism in a double meaning, two things he believes should cater to him but also harm him, but only because of his own toxicity. if that makes sense
"Coach you like my dad the way my mom likes my dad. Don't you?"
"Your mom likes you dad?"
I'm sorry but that delivery was perfect and encapsulates the way Moral Orel can be both funny and super morose at the same time.
lots of that in Home Movies too.
@@platonicbuu7454 Eh, Home Movies isn't as effed up.
It's a perfect one-two punch of Orel learning about both his coach's relationship with his dad and a confirmation of how broken the relationship between his parents are.
No because I was completely zoned into how heart breaking the video had gotten and how dark it was and that threw me so off guard 😂
I’m so happy Oral doesn’t continue the cycle of abuse and raises a nice family in the end.
That makes me happy.
He broke the cycle of abuse by recognizing it very young and, likely, doing something about it. I imagine future seasons would have involved him escaping his family.
me too, cried so hard at that part
same
@@names_are_useless If you look on the walls of Oral’s house, you’ll notice he still has framed pictures of his family members, despite how much they’ve wronged him. Oral never “escaped”, because he still loves them. He just was able to see the flaws in their ways and never fell into temptation as they did, so he created the perfect Christian family he deserves with Christine
@@aaronlandry3934 The creator mentioned Orel was going to go through a Goth phase in Season 4 I believe, and distance himself from his family. It's clear Orel ended up with no ill-will towards Shapey or his Doppleganger. I noticed no pictures of his Father nor Mother.
The Joe and Nurse Bendy plot-line legit makes me cry in happy tears, it’s so cathartic to see a HAPPY relationship in this show.
33:54 That was smooth as hell man, good job scripting that!
As a kid who grew up in a militant Christian environment this show was almost too real for me. One of the saddest parts is orel looking up at the sky saying I have faith in you and waiting for nothing
I really couldn't sit through this show when I was a kid, or even a teenager. Too real, too much trauma. Watching even this was difficult, and it took me a few days to finish it. I totally get this. Especially, like, I don't know if anyone else went through this post-9/11, but my entire family changed, so this show was such a gruesome reminder of that.
@@nempne kids today will never know. Even in the 90s going to church was almost compulsory. Everyone I knew made sure they were seen in church, or else face intense judgement.
Right there with you guys. It hits so close to home (bad 'church' mindset, alcoholism) that it was a painful watch for me at first but in the end it made me feel better knowing that a lot of people felt like I did, and that you can choose to put that stuff behind you.
Most of the men in my family were a part of the military, including my dad, and while I grew up in the early 2010s rather than the 90s, the Christian-conservative environment was still going strong and I didn’t know much life outside of it for years. Moral Orel is really comforting to me in that I relate to so much.
I related to this show... alot
It made me call a mental health hotline after finishing season 3
Holy crap… them acknowledging that faith is not the problem but those who distort it and use their religion to further their own biases and agendas is miles more grounded and respectful than a vast majority of shows that poke fun at religion today, and just raises the show even higher on my watch list.
Yeah absolutely, I'm happy others can feel that..
I think this is really what elevates this series.
It can be easy to dismiss it as "Christianity Bad" as was a popular view of the era, but a close analysis pokes holes in that assessment. Orel's faith - the genuine faith and connection he has with religion, even as the institutions around that are warped by people's biases - is a consistently good thing in his life. It's the people around him that interpret things however suits them and to entrench their own biases that is portrayed as really harmful. And we see genuine growth from him, much of which emerged from his devout belief, be stifled over and over by people who would bend that positive thing to their own values.
The biggest example is when he gets an epiphany about the nature of the divine, and then his father beats it out of him until what is left is the church. But equally, how this religious town kills a dog that is the reincarnation of jesus for being too loving, and the like.
It would be very, very easy for a show like this to be "Christianity is a terrible institution and god sucks." But it doesn't go for that low-hanging fruit, and takes a more nuanced take about religion instead.
I really noticed that from clips i watched on RUclips of this show. I was born and raised a Catholic and although I wasn't raised not to question anything, I do come from a broken family and appreciate Orel so much. I didn't realize how similar i was as a kid until the end of the show. I love the message the show gives and will always recommend it to all my friends. Religious or not.
Faith IS the problem. Telling millions of people all over the world that something that is blatantly false and made up is true is cruel and inhumane.
@@areguapiri there comes a time where people grow to a certain age and question a lot of things they're told. Unless someone belongs to a family like Orel's (i hope it's really scarce nowadays) then they can leave whenever they want. My own brother is an atheist and still lives at home with the rest of us. We don't force him to do anything he doesn't want to and we have good relationships with him still. Trust me when I say that Christians and anyone who belongs to literally any other religion aren't mindless drones just following whatever their church leaders say. We have questioned, we have seen both sides of the argument, and we have decided. Our religion isn't abusing us and we're not being treated inhumanely by it. If you hate religion, then that's cool for you, but you don't have to say it's cruel and inhumane just because you don't believe.
This video made me contemplate my childhood and my relationship to my own parents, how they've raised me and how they've affected me as an adult, made me think "I guess I've been quite lucky, all things considered" and made a call to my dad on father's day and tell him I love him, which is something I usually never do. Thank you for this video.
This is easily one of most well constructed video essays on the entirety of the platform! Congrats man
the "Lust Guard 6001" joke is hilarious to me because it implies that there are 5999 other unseen attempts at developing the best way of dividing two beds
Wouldn't it be 6000
@@SentientIrisu nah we saw 6000 during the show
@@waldornprime5567 you are correct
@@SentientIrisu note the "unseen"
Wait what if there was more than 6001
Idk maybe clay got more techniques than geopliticians fighting over disputes
I think the episode with Bartholomew is my favorite. He literally healed a girl and they killed him for spreading too much love. He was literally Jesus and they killed him, just like the Bible says will happen, oof. Wrong will become right and right will become wrong.
It's insane how symbolic the episode is. At first Bartholemew seems just like a cartoon dog, but, as we go on, we see that he is literally the stand in for Jesus. However, like you said, the townspeople killed him because he was spreading too much love for the other people to compete with. It's the most hypocritical thing I have heard of a church doing, irl or in fiction.
There's a theory that Bartholomew actually is Jesus reborn into a dog. Which adds a whole other layer to the episode in my opinion.
@@Loopimay A theory? It seems pretty textual to me. Or at least v, v obvious subtext
@@Loopimay "A theory". Sure... Like Clay being an alcoholic is a theory.
Makes me think of Dostoevsky's "Grand Inquisitor" story in The Brothers Karamazov-- one of my favorite stories and worth checking out.
This was a really well made video, I put it on to play in the background but ended up ditching my game and watching this instead.
Thanks so much! That's such a kind compliment
I don’t know how or why, but this video has accidentally become my comfort video. I’ve seen it a million times, and I’ll watch it a million more. Great job.
The mountain goats "no children" is obviously a extremely depressing song of a awful relationship where no love remains, but one lyric "Our friends say it's darkest before the sun rises
We're pretty sure they're all wrong" seems to imply that this couple agrees on one thing, and no one agrees with them. I always interpreted it as the couple is so similar that that they can't help but hate each other because they hate themselves, and can't bare to be stuck with themselves in a way. Sort of a twist on "opposites attract", and that fits in nicely with moral oral parents i think
I sort of agree. I interpret it to mean that the friends are trying to say their relationship may be bad, but just wait for the light at the end of the tunnel. Whereas the couple just thinks, "nah. As long as we're together, the tunnel has no end. We're stuck in the dark."
I like “I hope I cut myself shaving tomorrow, I hope it bleeds all day long”
This
Misery loves company
the whole album Tallahassee is a brutal listen. it paints a picture of hating your partner and yourself. i listened to it in a dingy motel during a blizzard, the sense of isolation that album gives is just crushing.
I can’t believe you didn’t talk about Clay’s monologue
THERES ALWAYS SO MUCH MORE PAPER THAN THERE ARE WEIGHTS.
“If it wasn’t for your beer goggles you’d get some work done”
“HOW DARE YOU!? I don’t drink beer…”
You start off in life as a little baby, with no paperwork, but do we appreciate it all us little babies? no we cry...
"The pain. Of you. Day in, day out, being there. With that face. Not knowing what to say. Not caring anymore. Not even knowing that you'll probably only care about her when it's finally too late. Forgetting about all those desperate- those desperate years you spent alone, your barren years when no woman would even consider resting her tired head on your shaky little shoulder. Stinking of belly semen. Why even wipe?"
"Thats my life! Over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over-"
"Okay Clay, I think we get the point."
" *NO, YOU DON'T!* aaaaaaaaaand over and over and over and over and over and over and over again!"
@@jtlego1 well howdy reverend!
20:33 this scene always broke my heart. Like wishing i was there to help poor Orel.
Growing up with Adult Swim, getting high and staying up late to catch stuff like this when everyone else was fast asleep. It felt like an alternate dimension where things actually made sense. Love you AS!
I think what really brought the show's writing together was how it could have leaned into easy cynicism and anti-religiousness but instead explores the positive effects Orel's earnestness and unbreakable conscience have on his community and how despite all the terrible things they are responsible for many of them start the process of healing and growing into better and more rounded people.
The scene where Reverend Putty just sits in the pew and actually listens to Orel is extremely powerful imagery.
Good take
@Deniselee28 This has “Shut the hell your mouth” energy
@Deniselee28 what does this mean?
@Deniselee28 you… having a forever stroke?
@Deniselee28 it’s not clever, just an observation
One of my favorite moments in the show was when Shapey said to his mother "When I'm thirsty, it feels how I feel when I'm alone." It broke my heart. He was begging to be mothered the whole time.
RIGHT
I was one of those weird teens around the time Moral Orel season 3 came out and, somehow, managed to catch it and watch all of it right after its cancelation. To this day I think it's one of the most striking and best told animated series ever made (barring things that didn't age well) and remember thinking what a shame it was that so few people knew or thought about it. I'm so glad it has finally found its audience.
Man I was so pleasantly surprised when they used not just one, but THREE Mountain Goats songs in this show.
One of my all time favorite bands and the creators of Moral Orel used each song perfectly.
That ending is honestly perfect, despite the amount of shit Orel was put through, he breaks the cycle and has a much happier life than he did as a child
having him become a good father also shows how sick clay was by comparison - trauma doesn't make you a bad person, it makes you hurt. bad people tend to get worse when they are hurt, but being hurt doesn't mean it's inevitable that you'll hurt others.
Also good to know Shapey and his doppelganger seem to have found rewarding jobs in the future too, as evidenced within the photos at the end.
@@bumblerbree Damn bro that strikes deep lol
I wouldn’t mind seeing how Orel broke the cycle in the end. Sad that CN canceled the show in the end.
@@bumblerbree Nah, no one is born evil, we are born blank slates, and it's the environment we grow up in and the people we grow up around that influence us to become the people we are as adults. Clay could have been a good person, but the trauma he went through and how his father treated him after his mother died definitely played a hand in how he turned out. Clay also lacked the self awareness that Orel has, as Orel was able to become more self aware and acknowledge how fucked up everything was. But Orel also had a few people in his life who were genuinely good influences who were able to help him, that Clay did not have.
Trauma definitely doesnt make you a bad person, that's not what im saying at all, but it's how that trauma was handled not just by Clay as an adult, but also by his parents/father after the trauma happened that twisted Clay into what he is now. The way his father treated him shaped many of Clay's integral views on love and how it's shown and reciprocated, which of course affected his relationships with his kids and the other adults around him.
When Orel denied Clay the satisfaction of being proud of him for killing the bear was awesome. He didn't even want the pride of such a shitty person anymore, it became worthless in 1 night
this was probably my fav scene of she show. the way he stops to think about saying the truth and having tre approval of his father, something he longed for before the camping trip, just to realize he hates his father too much to even give him the smallest amount of satisfaction felt like a punch in the stomach. such a small kid having to mature so fast
Ah, the nostalgia for this show is high for me.
When i was a child, id secretly stay up till 11 because Falcon Beach would play (cant seem to find that show for the life of me. Its a weird peice of lost media i think because only a season is availble on DVD and otherwise not uploaded ANYWHERE. Free or pay) anyway, at 1030, this show would play and i simply fell in love with the art and dry humor.
Also, does anyone remember Rick and Steve the Happiest Gay Couple Alive? That show was gold.
It would be so cool if a youtuber went through those old shows
Ooh definitely going to check out Rick and Steve! Thanks for the tip
@Meromorphic It would be really nifty if you made a video about the show.
The entire episode with Bartholomew was such a perfect mirroring of the story of Jesus that its AMAZING
Jesus was hated by the Jewish leaders at the time because he was more followed, and they disliked him swaying people to, what they thought was blasphemy.
In the end, the people who truly felt they believed in God crucified him, trying to prove that he was some sort of fake messiah.
I swear. I've never even seen the show and i think that's bonkers that they pulled that off.
My favorite part was when orel said "its moral time" and moraled everyone to moralblivion
Yeah, this doesn't get talked about enough. He was definitely the moraliest of the orels
Morbiorelos
Jokes aside that's basically what happened in 'Turn the Other Cheek' lol
truly one of the morals of all time
Moralbius 2, electric bibleoo
My favourite part is when bloberta tells us why she married clay and it turns out she just gaslit and emotionally manipulated him into marrying her, just after introducing him to alcohol. Portraying her as the instigator rather than the victim
The show did a pretty good job of portraying both Bloberta and Clay as both villain and victim. Bloberta was failing at her societal duty and therefore became manipulative and Machiavellian and a pretty damn neglectful mother, Clay is in an unhappy marriage but chooses to drink and abuse his child and is a deeply violent and abusive person, and eventually almost kills his own son, they’re both completely garbage people who know they’re garbage but don’t actually want to change
The toxic dynamic they share is also the product of a larger vicious cycle. Bloberta wouldn't have sabotaged clay if the local culture didnt place women's value and purpose into being a wife and mother and treat women who were one or neither as less than.
Bloberta was more or less using a toxic version of self preservation to prevent herself from becoming a victim of unjust social isolation. The culture of moralton is eat or be eaten. The only way to live up to expectations and attain social approval is to be selfish and to prey on someone else for your survival /purposes, no matter how understandable or unnecessary they may be.
Selfless people gain nothing but mockery and isolation.
Thats what archaic social expectations push people to become and treat others like. In that sense religion is less relevant on the whole and is used more like a backdrop than as the forefront to every interaction. Though, archaic traditions can only live on if people keep them alive. If the people of moralton thought of people as more important than traditions, then the culture wouldn't have produced individuals who are willing to sacrifice others on an alter of conformity, fear of reprisal, and social acceptance, etc .
A toxic culture normalizes, encourages, and produces toxic individuals, toxic actions, and toxic dynamics. And those things are necessary in order for the toxic culture to survive. Thats why its necessary for orel to break the cycle of toxicity that produced all the wrong he saw growing up in order to not become a victim of the predators or become the predator himself, like many of the townspeople of morelton have, and with his beliefs intact to boot. Thats even in the face of being shot by his alcoholic abusive father. And that takes a lot of strength to do.
Many people in moralton were not able to do it and lives were ruined as a result. Which really testifies to orel's charector and the depths of his beliefs due to ultimately being abel to escape the fate of moralton's residents.
@@emilybarclay8831to add clay was spoiled by his mom and she died in a prank. Then his dad constantly hit him and he took that as love until one day he pushed him too far. The dad snapped and realized the opp of love isnt hate but indifference. Hence he left him alone. No more hitting nor anything.
In a weird way Clay hitting Orel was his messed up way of showing love.
And
Not a stretch to say he didn't want to show love because he equated loving too much with dying.
You made me start watching the show before the intro of this video even endet. I love this show with all my heart now and having finished it made this video so much more enjoyable. So glad I gave it a try but I’ll still never forgive you for the emotional trauma that show caused me lol
One of the best series reviews I've ever seen. Morel Orel is possibly the most artistically deep pieces of television, period.
What I love about this show is that this show doesn’t tell you what to believe. It doesn’t tell you to be Athiest or Christian or anything. It’s just telling you to pay attention to who is influencing your beliefs. Don’t blindly follow something or someone who is using your belief to control you.
I’m not Christian due to my father using it to manipulate me but I do believe my own spirituality.
Also ending theme to never lose faith even if all hope is lost.
But yeah ironically through all the bs morel kept his faith and religion.
I wish the show continued. Would've loved to see a deus ex with reverned putty he was changing for the good. Also not enough of that old lady whom i felt always controlled clay who controlled the town. Very easily in the few episodes we see her she was able to have a firm grasp and mold clay like....clay lol.
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Well, even as someone who is against religion as a global institution, I still think it’d be kinda cringe if you just, like…*told* people to be atheist. They’d never get away with that and have it be believable at all.
@@loganshillington9812 true but a lot of less nuanced media can portray christianity as bad and harmful. i’ve seen a lot takes that basically go “christian cultures and communities hurt people therefore christianity is bad” but this show makes a distinction that christianity itself isn’t the problem, it’s the people who abuse it.
@@fumothfan9 Yuuka spitting fax
"Well I don't remember that. So that means it's not my fault." Holy shit, all my childhood trauma right there. They knew exactly what that line was. Geez that just hit a little hard. I'm glad I didn't know about this show at the time, I was probably a little too literal to understand. But learn more about it now that I'm older gives a better appreciation.
My stepfather used the same excuse, and "believe that if it makes you feel better" about his verbal and sexual abuse throughout my childhood. It's heartbreaking, I'm sorry you got the same lines.
I love how the preacher has a "I hate my boss" mug 8:45
Just finished watching it and holy crap i missed out on such a good show as a teen. It's nice to know there's articles talking about it, and the show is still being talked about.
Idk why but “crack is a gateway… to slang” is one of the funniest things I’ve heard in a while
"slang?"
"Yes"
What makes it funnier is that ‘Slang’ is literally slang for ‘short language’. Does that mean Clay’s done crack?
That stop motion within stop motion episode... I don't think I ever laughed harder.
Joe is fucking hilarious regardless of his psychopathy. Easily one of my fav characters.
"We need to raise your dead grandfather from the dead"
"Ok"
Funniest was probably either the segregation one or the missing link one
Great analysis of this show! I never heard of this adult swim series before. Wonderful work!
To answer your question at the end, although you might not see this. I watched the entire perspective due to absolutely loving your message and the show as well as the parallels it has had in my own life growing up in a religious household. What I find interesting about watching perspectives especially about Moral Orel is that the tone of voice used with some of the scenes makes me feel saddened by the reality that the scenes and commentary highlight aspects of life that actually happen that seem so comedic but are really quite damaging. As you said, shows like this are so heavily real it hurts and reminds me of the pain. However, I think the you were close but not on target with the last scene of the show. It is showing that acceptance is the only route, like with adventure time basically pushing every plot point they wanted to do in later seasons it seemed into one mash up episode, sped up. Moral Orel showed the cycle of abuse did not start with religion nor will it end by revoking good honest values as mentioned by pushing toward a "goth Orel" who would likely revoke the churches even most good values then end up finding god in acceptance of freewill. Realising that god is only to blame for passing free will onto us, similar to how every episode had a bible lesson to teach, free will is probably the biggest one in the bible.
Sorry to drag this on so long, but I know that some people hurt when watching this show because of their own experiences with Christian parents or figures. The reality is whether you believe in the bible or not we all have freewill and choose to make certain decisions for better or worse of ourselves or those around us. I truly think after how sad the story was, it had to give the viewers hope in the knowledge that truth, wisdom, and acceptance will set you free from your pain and allow you to begin a new.
Buuuuut I don't think about it that much, have a good day everyone 😛😄
1:12:08 that scene felt so real to me. You don’t have to be gay to understand what Oral’s father was feeling in that moment. The layers of complexity of a man who’s been shown to be uncaring and slowly falling apart, finally break and show how valuable he truly is. In his moment of need, he wanted an out. He wanted to move away from this life he never wanted. He saw coach stop frame as that perfect way out. But it was already too late. Frame was tired of waiting and getting moved to the side all the time. Tired of not getting a real answer from the man, and finally, once he did get it, it didn’t even feel that satisfying to him. He knew he was just emotional. He knew it was too late.
I honestly dont think clay is gay, maybe bi, but he mostly just looks for someone that adores him like his mother did, anyone who would put him in a pedestal and worthship him
never, never in media have I ever seen anyone ever address those feelings in sexual assault victims. Those taboo feelings of trying to desensitize and regain control of your experiences through almost convincing yourself you want it again. That's so raw and real and from an animated TV show.
As a CSA survivor, it's so fucking real. I used to think when I was younger that I wanted to marry my father because he was the only one who truly loved me. I'm honestly disgusted with myself and I wish I never thought those things
Fellow CSA victim here, and I'm also extremely thankful for it. It made me feel so heard and understood! It's also motivated me to write about my trauma more, in the form of a comic with characters dealing with their trauma. I want this shit to stop being "taboo" and have it be understood by others.
I hope you are not referring to Miss Sculptham's part of Alone. She intentionally got Mr. Creepler to "Attack" her. Any question is laid to doubt in an un-recorded third season script, shared by Dino.
@@doublepinger Bendy
In my opinion,
In these times where it's still taboo
This kind of taboo subjects can only be addressed in animation or books
Because i bet they would project those uncomfortable feelings onto love action actresses in harmful ways
I have always loved "No Children" but i never knew it was in such an impactful show. I think I love it even more
Never made the connection of Clay beating Orel as Clay viewing it as a way of caring for his son. That just makes it so much more messed up. The physical abuse in this show is so real and so hard to stomach
Someone mentioned that during the hunting trip where he struggles to get off his belt due to frustration, it shows that alcohol gets in the way of his messed up way to "express love"
Also the fact that he doesn't bother to beat shapy or his wife. Orel really is the only one he "cares" for in the family...
@@voiceofthelegion578 unless i'm misremembering i think on a few occasions he has briefly hit shapey just to try and shoo him away and shapey just didn't really care. which makes it a little worse because orel clearly is the only one in the house who actually values clay's opinion and cares not to upset him as well.
orel and clay mutually trying to involve themselves to maintain standards for each other's benefit is ironically what makes their relationship the most abusive and neglectful in the family.
Love this video but something that doesn’t sit right with me is not addressing nurse Bendys trauma as it really is. She was raped as a child by dr secondopinionson and never allowed to see joe after his birth. She was thrown out basically by him and most likely by her parents before that. Her acting like a child at home isn’t her just enjoying acting young but heavily implied that it’s regression as a way for her to deal with the trauma of being raped by a man who cared for her but also only ever seen as the town harlot.
This is (basically) what I was trying to say, but probably didn't articulate well.
I think they probably would've gotten a chance to explore it if they hadn't gotten cancelled
@@otakucouture They would've I think that's part of why they got canceled, I really wanted to see how they'd have handled the women's traumas
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He raped Bendy then avoided prison by becoming a transsexual. Kind of like Bruce Jenner.
I love that you started this video with my favorite show The Simpsons, to transition into talking about another show I love & one of the most brilliant shows ever created, Moral Orel. Wonderful video!
Circa [42:35] I always wondered during Clay's big rant about if the flies on Clay's face are supposed to be a nod to Satan and Hell.
This show is definitely how I first got exposed to the Mountain Goats
i’m pretty sure the very essence of alone isn’t just that they’re all women that weren’t wed so they were cast aside. its that all these women have had their bodily autonomy taken away from them and how that plays into the every day problems they face. how they are seen as less than human and the tolls that takes on them. leading them to over correct and use extreme coping mechanisms.
I agree. In fact, I agree so much that I said so in the video. 😅
They're adults. They have autonomy, even in that ridiculous town. The nurse was able to find her purpose, and so did the librarian, in a sick way.
@@user-fe8gx3ie5v they have autonomy in others ways but over their body it has been stripped from them. Nurse was raped as a child and has incredibly morally wrong relations as an adult with people with power over her. The teacher was raped. Rape quite literally is violating someone’s bodily autonomy. The old woman was forcibly sterilized.All of these show a lack of control over what has happened or is happening to their body.
@@sienna6580 Yes, but she's been working on overcoming it. That particular section of the video was implying they had none. Even with lingering mental issues, they are still able to function well enough to work and survive, even if their private lives are a mess.
@@user-fe8gx3ie5v That's the point. It's delving into the private part of the lives of women who have been violated in that way, showcasing the pain and coping mechanisms that women who either can't afford or don't want therapy use. Them being functioning adults is the cover for the pain they all feel having had their autonomy violated. They're not okay, despite how they present themselves in public. Most rape survivors are like this. That's most likely what the show was trying to convey
My favorite part of this show is a really engaging narrative about deconstructing religion while still examining the importance of faith. Imo i think it actually embraces the lessons of christianity in a world of structural inequality and institutional corruption. It somehow acknowledges hypocrisy within the church without demeaning the beliefs it was founded on, and in a way that doesnt treat its audience like they are too dumb to understand the difference or too cynical to appreciate the nuance. Also every person i have showed this show to has hated it lol
Well said!
Yes! I love that in the end, Orel still believes in god. Faith is not wrong, but the misuse of it is
The first sentence is everything I wanted to say but couldn’t find the words. I completely agree with everything
@@sandiegoretcon1292 Exactly!
as a christian always seeking out actually good christian movies and shows, these kinds are always the absolute best, it's not making fun of the actual religion, but, as you finally said, deconstructs the constructs of it all, and sends out an actual message.
Another wholesome thing missed in that final scene; Orel's brother became a police officer, so it can be assumed that he's a functioning member of society, and wasn't left behind by everyone around him.
This is a show that I saw glimpses of as a child and remember thinking something felt off. Never revisited it, but thank you for this essay. A great story telling you’ve reshared with me
Lol I worked on this show so many years ago. It's fun to look back and remember it, it's been a while since I've not really seen it since I worked on it.
That's so freaking cool! If you don't mind me asking, what was your role?
@@Meromorphic Yeah I was an effects artist on it.
@@conveniencestorediet well my hat off to you guys. The art was fantastic. I'm glad you got some enjoyment from my little vid.
That's awesome
@@conveniencestorediet This show deserved more seasons!!!
The POV scene where Clay walks to his room in “Numb” is, I think, one of if not the most disturbing, bitter, and tragic scenes in television history, especially when he stops for a moment at a family picture. The nonexistent facade of a happy family that has now fully crumbled. You can’t help but feel sorry for everyone, including Clay.
I saw a few episodes with my mom but she stopped watching because Clay reminded her too much of her dad, who thankfully got clean in his later years. It was also one of the last shows I watched with my Dad before he died, so it has kind of a soft spot for me.
Obviously Clay and Bloberta are evil pieces of shit but they’re all a victim of something and suffering silently in their own misery. It doesn’t excuse their actions but rather humanizes them into realistic characters
goddamn, to see your own parents or elders still grappling with the people who made such an impact on their childhood is so heartbreaking, i hope you guys remember the shared experience of this show as more of a positive and can both reflect on how to never repeat the literal sins of the father
The show is pure genius! Thank you, for such an extensive deep dive
wow, what an amazing show! i'd never heard of it before but i'm glad i did now. this was such a well put together video and now imma see where i can find the whole show.
I could be wrong about this but do you notice that his dad's alcohol is like pinkish at the first season like juice and he drinks milk instead of liquor in one episode. Its like orel doesn't notice his alcoholic nature.