Here is my cover of No Children for those interested. Soundcloud: on.soundcloud.com/tvVsA Google Drive: drive.google.com/file/d/130qk6UvaAXU2aWWEe4vioA-v39CuSjOD/view?usp=drivesdk
I always found it brilliant how the show starts with the horror trope of a Zombie take over, but a simple camping trip was the most terrifying thing that took place.
The fact that Reverand Putty of all people was one of the few people who grew and bettered himself as a person by the end of the show,was the real plot twist.
I always got the impression that doughys parents got married as teenagers just to avoid "the sin of premarital sex" and are only together for that reason
this seems more likely to me than being so madly in love that they neglect doughy. Plus it might be reflective of their inner immaturity. They have an immature view of sex and marriage which emotionally/mentally stunted them and even as parents theyre not able to fully mature and grow past high school maturity. And doughy pays the ultimate price. No one in moralton cares about any of it because theyre not having sex outside of marriage and thats all that really matters to anyone. I doubt anyone in moraton, as miserable as they all are, even envy their relationship because its so obvious that neither are playing with a full deck and aren't truly living up to the ideal nuclear family.
Think it’s pretty telling how when Doughy got hurt and went to his mom for help, she was actually about to help by finding a bandaid until his dad entered the room and her attention was fully focused elsewhere
brutal man it's kind of my fear if i ever miraculously get a partner that ill start to stop loving her or something which is kind of why i start to get scared when i don't like my crush as much as i used to
One thing - in the segregation episode, Orel doesn't burn down the rest of Moralton, it catches fire because the fire department refuses to put out the fire at the Figurelli house and it spreads. The adults blame Orel for the fire because segregating the Figurellis was his idea.
I can’t believe you forgot to mention during the camping trip with a drunk father, he simply utters “I hate you, dad.” Finally not just backtalking but accepting that he doesn’t blindly love his family anymore, in fact, the opposite, and he’s not afraid to say it. Also coach telling Orel that his dad did one good thing, make him, finally giving Orel his own internal self worth, not external from the church or his family.
I made some mistakes, but this is something I didn't actually forget. I probably should have said something myself, but instead I tried adding that clip in for full effect. For whatever reason, though, Content ID kept copyright claiming that part.
Honestly i feel like Morel still blindly loves his family He just isent blind to their actions, hes waking up and isent a Blissful child. But he still loves them, hes the kid of person who would learn to hate themself before others
Coach stop frame was probably one of the best characters in the show at least for that moment alone. He was able to give the young boy an understanding that honor isn't something that you're given or earned it's something that you need to find for yourself
The closure of Orel and Coach was so heartwarming. Not only did Coach finally cut off a toxic person, but Orel finally had a decent male figure in his life.
Its sad, but also wholesome that Orel has his family framed on the wall. Despite all the abuse and neglect he dealt with throughout his childhood, he still honors them with a photo. Even Block And Shapey get their pictures on the wall. Block, even though not biologically related, is still considered a brother to Orel. One could argue that it was Christine that hung it up, but I like thinking it was Orel since we don't see Christine's parents present.
@@snowqueen51 Pretty sure they did^ In the photos, you see that Shapey is now a police man and Block is a firefighter. Both of those positions involve helping people and they seem to be happy
Carolyn Lawrence (the voice actor of orel and sandy cheeks) Once stated; “There are moments where my heart broke for Orel while I was playing him, He touched me emotionally more than any character I’ve ever played.”
Literally just realized that the reason Orel never got punished for any of the laws he broke (and people he literally killed) and instead Clay just got to take him home is because Clay is the fucking Mayor.
He got everything he asked for 😂 minus the sin He wanted a women, so he could have a family. He wanted the fun time inbetween, but fate gave him what he needed
@@iluvpink1176 Florence was also cheating on her husband, trust me the show would have elaborated more on the story. No one in Morelton is clean or pure. And he was just desperate for affection, and she offered it. Clay even shames him later for it XD "Must be some desperate sap, who feeds of the desperation of the women"
It’s one of my favourite Orel scenes. That, all the best things start with F, Family, Friends, Faith and of course Fucking and sometimes we’re greedy and we want all the F things, when we aren’t happy with the F things we already have. Reverend could finslly have 3 of those things now. Family and Friends, his daughter and Faith.
Even if clearly the show wasn’t meant to end that early, I’m still glad to see that by the end, after everything that possibly happened after that last confrontation, Orel got to break the cycle of abuse.
Bartholomew being symbolic of the actual type of acceptance and love that Jesus preached for and being thourughly rejected by everyone in town except for Orel is just...so good
@@internationaltroller8242the book of Revelation deals with the end of the world and what happens after. Here’s a general, very simplistic overview of it in order: Natural and Supernatural disasters happen AntiChrist and demons rise Much of humanity bends the knee to said AntiChrist and demons New world order Angels and prophets would preach More natural and supernatural disasters Jesus returns with the heavenly host and destroys the AntiChrist and humanity’s militaries that aligned with him The devil is thrown into a prison hole for 1k years Jesus reigns as king over Earth for 1k years Devil comes back and lots of people follow him God defeats them and throws the devil into the lake of fire (hell 2.0) JUDGEMENT DAY FOR ALL HUMANS God remakes the universe so that evil would be no more and that He would always be physically present with humanity Again, this is a very simple overview of it. I suggest you read it if you haven’t yet.
@@internationaltroller8242 revelations is for when he gives up on us. Beside, Gods love and Jesus' love is different. Jesus was human, he was born, he lived, he worked, he married. His love for us is as a fellow man allowing him to also have empathy for us. God isn't human, his love is more like the love a person has for something they created. You can hold love for them or it, but it can be difficult to empathize with someone who doesn't feel pain or suffering.
My favorite part of the camping trip is when Orel looks up at clay and says “I hate you” he’s finally acknowledging the truth about his father and let’s himself feel his emotions instead of constantly denying them. I’m so glad he breaks away from the generational trauma and goes on to have a happy life
That scene was incredible and tragic at the same time because after oral says to his dad "I hate you"he lost all respect for him which is understandable considering clay shot his own son which could have killed him
@@animezilla4486 Right but it also is a huge thing because as a devout Christian Morel always held the belief of honoring and respecting his father and seeing his father as a pathetic vindictive destructive drunk and tries to twist his deplorable actions as possible to Orel.
Something I want to add is how the storylines themselves also represent Orel's loss of innocence. In the beginning, a lot of the episodes are super outlandish events that would probably be made up by a little kid. They're probably Orel exaggerating real events, hence the 0 consequences. Before Orel loses his innocence, the worst horror he can imagine is a zombie apocalypse. But by the camping trip, when he has lost all his innocence, the plots have become much more grounded in reality and Orel realizes that the worst horror is actually real life.
True. Maybe ptsd and he skewed his views a bit. But by the end he "grew up". So everything is crystal clear and aside from reprecussions we see its because his dad was mayor. And he pretty much has his family get away with anything
my absolute favorite bit from "nature" is when clay initially asks orel what happened, he responds "i got shot by you". notice how he words this sentence to make clay more passive and indirect in his actions, possibly even pinning the blame on himself for his dad shooting him. then later, clay asks orel if he killed the bear. completely fed up with his shit and his view of his father irreversibly changed, orel responds with the direct "no dad, you killed it." such a subtle thing but it kills me
not to sound rude, but how is it subtle? its not layered dialogue, clay literally says "orel, what have you done?" to which he responds "i got shot by you dad". like, yeah, he does shift the blame into himself, but thats after clay sets orel up to take the blame in the first place. especially since we have already been shown clays pov on blame and authority figures on the episode where principal fakey cheats on his wife with nurse bendy
i mean subtle as in it wasnt something i noticed on my first watch, maybe some people did. imo changing the way a character structures their sentences to show how they're developing is a subtle detail especially in comparison to everything else that happens in nature
I find it comical that with Orel's, the dads, the pastor and other mens stories were told it was just 'off the wall' but the plug had to be pulled when the WOMEN started to have more of a storyline with their trauma.
Yup Alone really makes me hate AS because r@pe was totally fine to show when it was played off as a joke in season 1 but when they showed the very real aftermath and affects it has on the victims, it’s too much and gets the show pulled.
The scene of clay saying I love you to the coach but still being unable to say it to HIM (by saying “I love you… Orel”) and the coach immediately losing any semblance of hope for clay in his eyes breaks me. Clay is a horrible disgusting person, but the coach was the one non-destructive force in his life and seeing clay’s acceptance of losing that as he enters his house with his wife he hates and kids he feels nothing for is really heartbreaking. It really is showing the karmic force of the show, saying clay was not worthy of this last little bit of happiness he had.
@@whwhywhywhywhywhywhyThey are not mutually exclusive. You can acknowledge the unfair background someone came from, and still hold them accountable for their own actions. Clay is an adult.
@@bananasinfrench I agree with robert sapolsky when it comes to crime, punishment and free will. also Clay is a clay figure, not an adult. The writers clearly wanted us to feel empathy for all the awful lives of their characters.
@@xijinping3317 at the very end of the last episode, you can see them as their jobs in picture frames, shapey as a police officer and block as a fireman
56:34 Nurse Bendy was raped by Joe's father the doctor when she was a little girl (12 because she's 24 and she says he's half as old as her) which is why she regresses. Her whole breakdown is behind that. This episode is really heavily based upon these women's trauma with femininity and motherhood
as a kid i always thought orel's dad was secretly the devil. the red velvet robe, the fact that everyone was either terrified of him or just outright listened to him without question.
other stuff that i feel go with this headcannon/interpretation: -Hes often lit in with red light or actual fire -his den/room/pit of hell is a dark place with open access to sinful things (weapons, alcohol, expensive or indulgent items like the velvet robe as you guys mentioned, forbidden knowledge if you consider the bookshelves or the """truths""" Clay teaches him, etc.) he constantly lives in a hell of his own making a job and lifestyle that he deeply resents, people that remind him of all the decisions he regrets made to forever think about and look at reminders of what he despises -dissapointed and was disowned/ distanced from an important paternal figure (ok thats prob reaching as far as the satan parallel but you get what i mean) -temps the pure offspring with sin and actions they both feel are wrong (tempts him with killing and using violence, instills a shitton of values that would make Orel just like him, etc.) and acts as a test of their faith and purity
One of my favorite moments in the show was when Shapey said to his mother "When I'm thirsty, it feels how I feel when I'm alone." It broke my heart. He was begging to be mothered the whole time.
I just realized: if Christina is Orel's counterpart, and she appears to be a loving partner, parent, and Christian at the end of the series like Orel, then she likely went thru a similar journey as him. Kinda interested in what her life was like.
I bet it was probably the exact same as what oral went through only with a few slight changes she never went on a hunting trip and what happened with her brother moving in with the puffington family apparently was a good thing because it meant that she still had a way to contact orel despite them being apart so they could reconnect once they had ditched the perspective horrible families. Not to mention let's not forget the end we see block and shape he became a fire chief and a police chief respectively for a couple of kids who had serious neurodivergent problems that is honestly heartwarming for all of the crappiness that their families had Christina orrell block and shapy all actually got a better life than what their parents had originally set them up for
I have a theory that Christina's life was, for the most part, Orel's life but instead, her abuse and revelations came from her mother and not her father. Perhaps her father was too overwhelmed with work and, growing up in a Christian household turned Jewish (Don't ask lol), I know from experience that it's always the mothers that are expected to tend to the daughters because daughters are "emotional", "unreasonable" and "overreactive". Therefore, I imagine Christina would be either brushed off or chastised when she'd have an opinion or call the town/her parents out. Maybe she got into mischief like Orel did at some point too and would get cleaning as a punishment, rather than spankings. Also, maybe, there was a parallel to the camping trip like a "Girl's night" or something under that umbrella of gender stereotypes where Christina had a similar experience with her mom. This is all speculation though, but I have thought about it quite a lot.
I'm glad you brought that up ☝ because I noticed when Bloberta went to switch the boys, both wanted to stay with her. It implies that Christina's mom was probably a worse mother to Blocky(?) than Bloberta was to Shapey.
@@alexandriahunt6058 that's something I never really thought of before but yeah clearly their family must have been horrible enough for both kids to decide that they want to stay with the puffingtons. That means that that mother must have been even less caring than bloberta
i understand that Clay is a huuuuge piece of work but hearing him crying, pleading, reaching out to the coach with "I love you" never fails to just shatter me.
Yeah, sympathetic villain stuff with him. You really hate everything you’ve seen them do but knowing all the stuff he went through and how truly sad that moment is. Knowing his whole story never justifies his so shitty actions but damn does it make moments like that hit so hard. So much feels there.
That's how toxic people do it. They can be huge monsters but they have the ability to tap into your sympathy. Plus I think he might have actually had real feeling for Coach so there is some genuine love in his speech.
It's amazing how they managed to portray someone so broken, with everything out in the air explaining how he got there, and yet maintained how he's irredeemable. Just like some people in real life, he's too far gone, beyond saving. And I don't think a show before or since has ever portrayed such a dark reality with such nuance.
1) You forgot to mention the scene after the credits of Season 3, Episode 13 where Orel packs up all his claymation gear and gifts it to Shapey & Block. 2) I found the ending to be surprisingly heartwarming. The final line is “every once in a while, a miracle happens” as we see Orel’s age progression; ending on a shot of Orel happily married to Christina and has a loving family.
@@drf6377 Not true. If you look at the pictures in the frames in the final shot. Shapey became a cop and Block a firefighter. I like to think that Orel stepped up to raise them in place of Clay and Bloberta. It's only head canon, however, I base it on Orel being the only one to ever show concerned with their well being through out the series. Also them moving onto jobs that help others seems very Orelesk in my opinion, suggesting his influence in their upbringing.
The mountain goats "no children" is obviously a extremely depressing song of a awful relationship where no love remains, but one lyric "Our friends say it's darkest before the sun rises We're pretty sure they're all wrong" seems to imply that this couple agrees on one thing, and no one agrees with them. I always interpreted it as the couple is so similar that that they can't help but hate each other because they hate themselves, and can't bare to be stuck with themselves in a way. Sort of a twist on "opposites attract", and that fits in nicely with moral oral parents i think
I sort of agree. I interpret it to mean that the friends are trying to say their relationship may be bad, but just wait for the light at the end of the tunnel. Whereas the couple just thinks, "nah. As long as we're together, the tunnel has no end. We're stuck in the dark."
the whole album Tallahassee is a brutal listen. it paints a picture of hating your partner and yourself. i listened to it in a dingy motel during a blizzard, the sense of isolation that album gives is just crushing.
Something about Morels dog that really hit me was that his death is supposed to represent how the romans executed Jesus. He did nothing but spread love and even “cured the sick” (the girl in the wheelchair). His popularity and message of love made the adults (roman’s) angry because he posed a threat. Which is the exact reasons why Jesus in the bible was executed. So the same people who make their lives revolve around Jesus and being holy became the ones who killed him, metaphorically.
@@magicman3163 You do know that Jesus... was a jew, right? He didn't create Christianity. He was Jewish, he celebrated passover, his mother and father were Jewish.
@@grandempressvicky6387 he was like Martin Luther his group branched out from the original branch and modern Jews are different since they have new books like the Talmund that advocate that they are the master race and Goyim must be killed or raped
28:11 I remember as a kid our pastor told this to my sister after one of our cats died and it legitimately traumatized her pretty badly. Neither of us go to church anymore as adults.
@@MorriganReadsI am so sorry for what happened to you! As a christian I believe animals go to heaven to. There is a psalm that says God preserves everything (or something like that) which would include animals.
I understand you had a bad experience, but you shouldnt just abandon church. It helps us grow and stay sharp in the Lord! I personally think that animals go to heaven to, as a psalm says something along the lines of: God preserves everything. That would mean animals to right? I dont know.. but we will all find out someday. God bless you sir or ma'am. Jesus loves you and your sister very much!
the "Lust Guard 6001" joke is hilarious to me because it implies that there are 5999 other unseen attempts at developing the best way of dividing two beds
I wouldn’t call Nurse Bendy delusional. She is coping via age regression. She knows the stuffed animals aren’t actually people, she is attached to them because they comfort her. She functions as an adult outside of her house, but clearly it takes a lot of emotional effort and she needs a way to de-stress and process in an environment she finds safe.
Also I love Mrs. Secondopinionson’s voice. I’m a trans man and I have a higher voice than I want. When I’m trying to make a good impression I deepen my voice via lowering my larynx, for the same reason she pinches her nose. Not all trans women have a high voice, estrogen actually has little to no effect on your vocal cords, so her voice would make sense in the context of an overstressed trans woman who doesn’t have the time or energy to voice train.
@@rowan-priince1860 You're right that estrogen has little effect on the vocal cords, however testosterone does. Transwomen who have gone through a male puberty can compensate by using a falsetto register like countertenors do, but transmen may have more difficulty, lacking the scaffolding to produce the lower tone, unless hormone therapy can replicate a male puberty if taken soon enough.
1:12:08 that scene felt so real to me. You don’t have to be gay to understand what Oral’s father was feeling in that moment. The layers of complexity of a man who’s been shown to be uncaring and slowly falling apart, finally break and show how valuable he truly is. In his moment of need, he wanted an out. He wanted to move away from this life he never wanted. He saw coach stop frame as that perfect way out. But it was already too late. Frame was tired of waiting and getting moved to the side all the time. Tired of not getting a real answer from the man, and finally, once he did get it, it didn’t even feel that satisfying to him. He knew he was just emotional. He knew it was too late.
I honestly dont think clay is gay, maybe bi, but he mostly just looks for someone that adores him like his mother did, anyone who would put him in a pedestal and worthship him
42:24 "so hes the worst character and i hate him" this man said what we are ALL thinking. it doesnt matter if clay had a bad childhood (which was actually pretty good until he accidentally killed his mom). that is no excuse to get shit faced and SHOOT YOUR SON IN THE LEG.
He's horrible but there are reasons as to why he is horrible, namely his dad and Bloberta specifically which did a pretty good job making me feel somewhat sympathetic towards him
@@bigmannn2443Bloberta is responsible for her shitty life but she isn't, in my opinion, at fault for what happened to Clay. He was already broken because of what happened to his mom and his dad being abusive towards him. Her offering alcohol to him was just a trigger, he would try it eventually and probably become a horrible person eather way.
I think what really brought the show's writing together was how it could have leaned into easy cynicism and anti-religiousness but instead explores the positive effects Orel's earnestness and unbreakable conscience have on his community and how despite all the terrible things they are responsible for many of them start the process of healing and growing into better and more rounded people. The scene where Reverend Putty just sits in the pew and actually listens to Orel is extremely powerful imagery.
@@hipsterelephant2660in the south park episode “butters’ very own episode”, it has butters go into his dads study and learn a lesson about lying. its very moral orel aesc because butters’ dad looks almost identical to clay, and the study is similar as well. a lot of people speculate that moral orel is based off of it because the episode aired in 2001, and moral orel came out in 2005.
I didn’t even realize when watching the show that when boberta hit clay the that first time and said he needed her help, that he felt cared for not because she was helping him but because she hit him….
I kind of like the fact there's no resolution with Orel's family at the end. Sometimes you don't get everything in life wrapped up in a neat little bow. It shows that you don't need things that way either, that despite having a horrible childhood there's still hope to grow up better.
When Orel denied Clay the satisfaction of being proud of him for killing the bear was awesome. He didn't even want the pride of such a shitty person anymore, it became worthless in 1 night
this was probably my fav scene of she show. the way he stops to think about saying the truth and having tre approval of his father, something he longed for before the camping trip, just to realize he hates his father too much to even give him the smallest amount of satisfaction felt like a punch in the stomach. such a small kid having to mature so fast
The POV scene where Clay walks to his room in “Numb” is, I think, one of if not the most disturbing, bitter, and tragic scenes in television history, especially when he stops for a moment at a family picture. The nonexistent facade of a happy family that has now fully crumbled. You can’t help but feel sorry for everyone, including Clay. I saw a few episodes with my mom but she stopped watching because Clay reminded her too much of her dad, who thankfully got clean in his later years. It was also one of the last shows I watched with my Dad before he died, so it has kind of a soft spot for me.
Obviously Clay and Bloberta are evil pieces of shit but they’re all a victim of something and suffering silently in their own misery. It doesn’t excuse their actions but rather humanizes them into realistic characters
goddamn, to see your own parents or elders still grappling with the people who made such an impact on their childhood is so heartbreaking, i hope you guys remember the shared experience of this show as more of a positive and can both reflect on how to never repeat the literal sins of the father
In the episode alone, there is this heartbreaking scen with nurse bendy. She goes to clean something up and the bear falls on her behind. She gets really upset and starts sobbing "not you, you can't!" over and over. It's so awful because it implies quite heavily that she not only lost her children to her baby daddy, she was also being abused by him. In my opinion it recontextualises her scene with all of the men in the show. After trauma from abuse some people become hypersexual which would explain why she has relations with certain men despite disliking him. Although it being the reason the show got cancelled, I think that it's one of the best episodes. It's heartbreaking and brilliant
To me, that scene is the darkest in the entire show. It was such a raw moment and her sobbing over that teddy bear has stuck with me since I watched it.
I think this show is a great textbook example of "real horror disturbs the comfortable and comforts the disturbed." I've suffered through my own religious trauma from K-8, so it definitely speaks to me. I wish adult shows would be more actually adult in this sense these days. Btw, to all the trans women in the comments saying they relate to Ms. secondopinionson, you're all queens and beautiful as hell. love you
I could be wrong about this but do you notice that his dad's alcohol is like pinkish at the first season like juice and he drinks milk instead of liquor in one episode. Its like orel doesn't notice his alcoholic nature.
The ending scene of the final episode also has photos hung on the wall, them being: - A red haired firefighter, presumably Blocky, posing with pride. Next to that photo is of a blonde law enforcement officer also posing with pride, presumably Shapey. They're both in professions that require heavy discipline and maturity, something they never had as children. It's clear that the two have moved on and developed well some point in the future, but it also displays what they both live for. After Shapey being heavily neglected as a child and Blocky being abandoned by his family, they both presumably felt helpess and vulnerable as kids and what better way to help other vulnerable people than to enter professions that both exist for the sole purpose of rescuing and protecting others? - We also see a photo of Bloberta and Clay next to the cross. Despite all the trauma Orel was forced to endure by the hands of his parents, he still has enough love to display them in his house. We all know how good of a person he truly is, so it makes wonder if, despite them being... them, he hopes that one day they'll change and be loving parental figures even though we all know that they won't change
He broke the cycle of abuse by recognizing it very young and, likely, doing something about it. I imagine future seasons would have involved him escaping his family.
@@names_are_useless If you look on the walls of Oral’s house, you’ll notice he still has framed pictures of his family members, despite how much they’ve wronged him. Oral never “escaped”, because he still loves them. He just was able to see the flaws in their ways and never fell into temptation as they did, so he created the perfect Christian family he deserves with Christine
@@aaronlandry3934 The creator mentioned Orel was going to go through a Goth phase in Season 4 I believe, and distance himself from his family. It's clear Orel ended up with no ill-will towards Shapey or his Doppleganger. I noticed no pictures of his Father nor Mother.
I adore the “Buddha” segment as I see it as Orel realizing he can think for himself and be his own “god”. It’s one of the few times we see him at peace and it’s very similar to my own journey overcoming religious trauma
@@huguesdepayens807Although Buddhism is qualified as a religion, it’s really more of a lifestyle than anything. It’s the idea that the world is already perfect and that one must accept themselves as they are in order to find inner peace, something no one in Moralton has been able to achieve. Orel was attaching too much of his self-worth and spirituality to a physical building (the church), when in reality he doesn’t need to. Buddha wasn’t trying to convert Orel, just telling him that his relationship with God is whatever he wants it to be, and it’s not dependent on outside physical forces.
Holy crap… them acknowledging that faith is not the problem but those who distort it and use their religion to further their own biases and agendas is miles more grounded and respectful than a vast majority of shows that poke fun at religion today, and just raises the show even higher on my watch list.
I think this is really what elevates this series. It can be easy to dismiss it as "Christianity Bad" as was a popular view of the era, but a close analysis pokes holes in that assessment. Orel's faith - the genuine faith and connection he has with religion, even as the institutions around that are warped by people's biases - is a consistently good thing in his life. It's the people around him that interpret things however suits them and to entrench their own biases that is portrayed as really harmful. And we see genuine growth from him, much of which emerged from his devout belief, be stifled over and over by people who would bend that positive thing to their own values. The biggest example is when he gets an epiphany about the nature of the divine, and then his father beats it out of him until what is left is the church. But equally, how this religious town kills a dog that is the reincarnation of jesus for being too loving, and the like. It would be very, very easy for a show like this to be "Christianity is a terrible institution and god sucks." But it doesn't go for that low-hanging fruit, and takes a more nuanced take about religion instead.
I really noticed that from clips i watched on RUclips of this show. I was born and raised a Catholic and although I wasn't raised not to question anything, I do come from a broken family and appreciate Orel so much. I didn't realize how similar i was as a kid until the end of the show. I love the message the show gives and will always recommend it to all my friends. Religious or not.
@@areguapiri there comes a time where people grow to a certain age and question a lot of things they're told. Unless someone belongs to a family like Orel's (i hope it's really scarce nowadays) then they can leave whenever they want. My own brother is an atheist and still lives at home with the rest of us. We don't force him to do anything he doesn't want to and we have good relationships with him still. Trust me when I say that Christians and anyone who belongs to literally any other religion aren't mindless drones just following whatever their church leaders say. We have questioned, we have seen both sides of the argument, and we have decided. Our religion isn't abusing us and we're not being treated inhumanely by it. If you hate religion, then that's cool for you, but you don't have to say it's cruel and inhumane just because you don't believe.
never, never in media have I ever seen anyone ever address those feelings in sexual assault victims. Those taboo feelings of trying to desensitize and regain control of your experiences through almost convincing yourself you want it again. That's so raw and real and from an animated TV show.
As a CSA survivor, it's so fucking real. I used to think when I was younger that I wanted to marry my father because he was the only one who truly loved me. I'm honestly disgusted with myself and I wish I never thought those things
Fellow CSA victim here, and I'm also extremely thankful for it. It made me feel so heard and understood! It's also motivated me to write about my trauma more, in the form of a comic with characters dealing with their trauma. I want this shit to stop being "taboo" and have it be understood by others.
I hope you are not referring to Miss Sculptham's part of Alone. She intentionally got Mr. Creepler to "Attack" her. Any question is laid to doubt in an un-recorded third season script, shared by Dino.
In my opinion, In these times where it's still taboo This kind of taboo subjects can only be addressed in animation or books Because i bet they would project those uncomfortable feelings onto love action actresses in harmful ways
The bathtub of blood was pretty obviously the children surrounding the tub cutting themselves to fill with their own blood. They are the innocent children, with Doughy even passing out from the blood loss.
I love that this show creates a state to portray a " fake view of Christian values" at this state is literally right where I grew up and I can promise you that all of the values portrayed in the show or exactly what I would throw as a kid. Is peak irony I love it! 😂
@@Meromorphic I moved out of the"small town" I grew up in and now living in a metropolis city. I can promise you the way I start describing my town is " this racist town I grew up in" and then when I explained the situation, everyone agrees that it's racist as hell disguised as " Christian values"
@@jordanford9320I am a convert to Roman Catholic, and I find it disgusting what the hell some areas, particularly the south of America (I'm British) has warped the word of a loving lord. God wouldn't want you to be inherently hateful towards anything. He'd be angry at you for being needlessly horrible to someone who hurt you in the past. It's almost ironic.
@@jordanford9320 I dont think its fair to compare your ENTIRE small town to being racist, thats not fair, just like if i called your metropolis city a "overpopulated poop covered zoo that has too much crime"
i think it's because i didn't grow up in America, i live in the Philippines but I've never met christians irl except two of my teachers whose worst trait was just thinking being gay was a sin like this so it always confuses me when i see stuff and comments like this but it's disgusting when i think about people using God's word and lying about it for their own use. it's ironic because we're taught to have the utmost respect for Him and you have pos like the people mentioned doing the complete opposite of what they pretend they follow. ngl it really hurts to watch this video and read the comment section but it's not like i completely don't understand
A nice detail I like to point out is at the very end, Shapey and the other brother have individual photos on the wall showing that they both managed to hold successful careers. They too overcame their obstacles to become happy and functional.
What I love about this show is that this show doesn’t tell you what to believe. It doesn’t tell you to be Athiest or Christian or anything. It’s just telling you to pay attention to who is influencing your beliefs. Don’t blindly follow something or someone who is using your belief to control you. I’m not Christian due to my father using it to manipulate me but I do believe my own spirituality.
Also ending theme to never lose faith even if all hope is lost. But yeah ironically through all the bs morel kept his faith and religion. I wish the show continued. Would've loved to see a deus ex with reverned putty he was changing for the good. Also not enough of that old lady whom i felt always controlled clay who controlled the town. Very easily in the few episodes we see her she was able to have a firm grasp and mold clay like....clay lol.
Well, even as someone who is against religion as a global institution, I still think it’d be kinda cringe if you just, like…*told* people to be atheist. They’d never get away with that and have it be believable at all.
@@TerranPersoid725 true but a lot of less nuanced media can portray christianity as bad and harmful. i’ve seen a lot takes that basically go “christian cultures and communities hurt people therefore christianity is bad” but this show makes a distinction that christianity itself isn’t the problem, it’s the people who abuse it.
Never made the connection of Clay beating Orel as Clay viewing it as a way of caring for his son. That just makes it so much more messed up. The physical abuse in this show is so real and so hard to stomach
Someone mentioned that during the hunting trip where he struggles to get off his belt due to frustration, it shows that alcohol gets in the way of his messed up way to "express love"
@@voiceofthelegion578 unless i'm misremembering i think on a few occasions he has briefly hit shapey just to try and shoo him away and shapey just didn't really care. which makes it a little worse because orel clearly is the only one in the house who actually values clay's opinion and cares not to upset him as well. orel and clay mutually trying to involve themselves to maintain standards for each other's benefit is ironically what makes their relationship the most abusive and neglectful in the family.
great video overall but im a bit surprised that nurse bendy's rape was not analysed or mentionned at all even though it was hinted a lot of times i think it plays a huge part in how we understand this character
I like to think that it kind of represents the way that rape isn’t always talked about or shown by victims. Most victims of rape remain silent about it and do their best to proceed with a “normal” life and a lot of people never even find out. You can’t look at a person and be like “yup, they’ve been through something” so I think that’s sort of what happens with nurse bendy which is the complete opposite of the school teacher whom’s abuse was publicized and thoroughly talked about.
"The pain. Of you. Day in, day out, being there. With that face. Not knowing what to say. Not caring anymore. Not even knowing that you'll probably only care about her when it's finally too late. Forgetting about all those desperate- those desperate years you spent alone, your barren years when no woman would even consider resting her tired head on your shaky little shoulder. Stinking of belly semen. Why even wipe?"
"Thats my life! Over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over-" "Okay Clay, I think we get the point." " *NO, YOU DON'T!* aaaaaaaaaand over and over and over and over and over and over and over again!"
"Coach you like my dad the way my mom likes my dad. Don't you?" "Your mom likes you dad?" I'm sorry but that delivery was perfect and encapsulates the way Moral Orel can be both funny and super morose at the same time.
It's a perfect one-two punch of Orel learning about both his coach's relationship with his dad and a confirmation of how broken the relationship between his parents are.
That ending is honestly perfect, despite the amount of shit Orel was put through, he breaks the cycle and has a much happier life than he did as a child
having him become a good father also shows how sick clay was by comparison - trauma doesn't make you a bad person, it makes you hurt. bad people tend to get worse when they are hurt, but being hurt doesn't mean it's inevitable that you'll hurt others.
@@bumblerbree Nah, no one is born evil, we are born blank slates, and it's the environment we grow up in and the people we grow up around that influence us to become the people we are as adults. Clay could have been a good person, but the trauma he went through and how his father treated him after his mother died definitely played a hand in how he turned out. Clay also lacked the self awareness that Orel has, as Orel was able to become more self aware and acknowledge how fucked up everything was. But Orel also had a few people in his life who were genuinely good influences who were able to help him, that Clay did not have. Trauma definitely doesnt make you a bad person, that's not what im saying at all, but it's how that trauma was handled not just by Clay as an adult, but also by his parents/father after the trauma happened that twisted Clay into what he is now. The way his father treated him shaped many of Clay's integral views on love and how it's shown and reciprocated, which of course affected his relationships with his kids and the other adults around him.
I saw a lot of moral orel in highschool on adult swim . I never saw the episodes in order and never realized how deep it all was . I loved this thanks so much.
Using songs by The Mountain Goats was SUCH a good choice. No Children is just pure vitriol and hatred in song form, every word is acidic. What a great way to show Clay and Bloberta's relationship through song.
This was the moment I discovered the mountain goats and I've listened to them nearly every day in the 10 years since. The upbeat tempo of the music set against the lyrics about a loveless marriage that is on the way out the window.... Honestly couldn't think of a more fitting song to pop up in this show, but especially for the scene in which it was used
My favourite part is when bloberta tells us why she married clay and it turns out she just gaslit and emotionally manipulated him into marrying her, just after introducing him to alcohol. Portraying her as the instigator rather than the victim
The show did a pretty good job of portraying both Bloberta and Clay as both villain and victim. Bloberta was failing at her societal duty and therefore became manipulative and Machiavellian and a pretty damn neglectful mother, Clay is in an unhappy marriage but chooses to drink and abuse his child and is a deeply violent and abusive person, and eventually almost kills his own son, they’re both completely garbage people who know they’re garbage but don’t actually want to change
The toxic dynamic they share is also the product of a larger vicious cycle. Bloberta wouldn't have sabotaged clay if the local culture didnt place women's value and purpose into being a wife and mother and treat women who were one or neither as less than. Bloberta was more or less using a toxic version of self preservation to prevent herself from becoming a victim of unjust social isolation. The culture of moralton is eat or be eaten. The only way to live up to expectations and attain social approval is to be selfish and to prey on someone else for your survival /purposes, no matter how understandable or unnecessary they may be. Selfless people gain nothing but mockery and isolation. Thats what archaic social expectations push people to become and treat others like. In that sense religion is less relevant on the whole and is used more like a backdrop than as the forefront to every interaction. Though, archaic traditions can only live on if people keep them alive. If the people of moralton thought of people as more important than traditions, then the culture wouldn't have produced individuals who are willing to sacrifice others on an alter of conformity, fear of reprisal, and social acceptance, etc . A toxic culture normalizes, encourages, and produces toxic individuals, toxic actions, and toxic dynamics. And those things are necessary in order for the toxic culture to survive. Thats why its necessary for orel to break the cycle of toxicity that produced all the wrong he saw growing up in order to not become a victim of the predators or become the predator himself, like many of the townspeople of morelton have, and with his beliefs intact to boot. Thats even in the face of being shot by his alcoholic abusive father. And that takes a lot of strength to do. Many people in moralton were not able to do it and lives were ruined as a result. Which really testifies to orel's charector and the depths of his beliefs due to ultimately being abel to escape the fate of moralton's residents.
@@emilybarclay8831to add clay was spoiled by his mom and she died in a prank. Then his dad constantly hit him and he took that as love until one day he pushed him too far. The dad snapped and realized the opp of love isnt hate but indifference. Hence he left him alone. No more hitting nor anything. In a weird way Clay hitting Orel was his messed up way of showing love. And Not a stretch to say he didn't want to show love because he equated loving too much with dying.
One thing I'd like to mention is that after the show ended, Dino and the crew went outside the Adult Swim HQ to burn every puppet and prop until they were escorted off by the police. Leaving Orel and Putty as the only surviving puppets of the show, this might also include Mrs. Censordoll and that Bigfoot character from "Genuisis"also survived. There could be 2 Censordoll puppets as I found 2 on worthpoint (Also including Rev. Putty) Reverend Putty was, however, sold to an anime enthusiast where he remains in a cabinet next to a big tiddy anime girl, and Orel stayed with dino.
Honestly, as a trans woman I actually really enjoy Ms. Secondopinionson's voice. I actually find it really nice that despite having a voice that's not coded as feminine, her family just accepts her as a woman without question. And I honestly think the phonecall voice gag is cute and even kinda relatable. In certain social situations I find myself pitching up my voice too. And yeah, I can definitely see how Miss Secondopinionson's "masculine" voice and the phonecall bit can read as kind of tone deaf, especially by today's standards. But at the same time, she's still a well developed character who's a kind, nurturing soul to her little brother, and aside from Stephanie is one of the VERY few adults in Moralton who could be considered well adjusted. If she's canonically trans, she's one of the very few examples of trans representation in mainstream media that's done with any sort of taste and not as a punching bag.
As a cis gay male I most likely cannot relate to your struggle at all, but I always found it insulting to trans people when others will disparage deep voiced trans characters. I can't imagine how painful it must be to be a trans women with a deep voice, and every time you get a smidge of representation in anything, everyone is calling it "insensitive" and "hurtful" to potray trans people like that. That your deep voice is nothing more than an offensive joke, and that your existence as a trans person is invalid because you're not feminine enough. Maybe I'm completely off base here, but that's how I see it from the perspective on an outsider looking in.
I'm trans and honestly I was more bothered by the reaction of the video essay then the joke itself. It's real. It's a struggle. Everyone in the show is facing real problems and issues, sometimes comedic and sometimes very much not. Stuff like that shouldn't be off limits imo, and seeing a trans girl be 'right' in every way except their voice feels more humanizing and empathetic then making a trans character with no struggles to pass or appear feminine.
One thing I'm surprsed this great analysis didn't mention is how Clay's puppet in Orel's movie is meant to resemble a wolf and grows to have a more mortifying appearance as it progresses, resembling how we as the audience become more apparent of his "true nature" over time. Also the blue bird that followed Orel throughout the Nature episodes.
i think the blue bird is actually a crane! cranes are seen as a bad omen in some cultures essentially meaning be careful and death/destruction are ahead.. so its awfully ominous and awfully accurate for the ‘nature’ episodes
As a kid who grew up in a militant Christian environment this show was almost too real for me. One of the saddest parts is orel looking up at the sky saying I have faith in you and waiting for nothing
I really couldn't sit through this show when I was a kid, or even a teenager. Too real, too much trauma. Watching even this was difficult, and it took me a few days to finish it. I totally get this. Especially, like, I don't know if anyone else went through this post-9/11, but my entire family changed, so this show was such a gruesome reminder of that.
@@nempne kids today will never know. Even in the 90s going to church was almost compulsory. Everyone I knew made sure they were seen in church, or else face intense judgement.
Right there with you guys. It hits so close to home (bad 'church' mindset, alcoholism) that it was a painful watch for me at first but in the end it made me feel better knowing that a lot of people felt like I did, and that you can choose to put that stuff behind you.
Most of the men in my family were a part of the military, including my dad, and while I grew up in the early 2010s rather than the 90s, the Christian-conservative environment was still going strong and I didn’t know much life outside of it for years. Moral Orel is really comforting to me in that I relate to so much.
Love this video but something that doesn’t sit right with me is not addressing nurse Bendys trauma as it really is. She was raped as a child by dr secondopinionson and never allowed to see joe after his birth. She was thrown out basically by him and most likely by her parents before that. Her acting like a child at home isn’t her just enjoying acting young but heavily implied that it’s regression as a way for her to deal with the trauma of being raped by a man who cared for her but also only ever seen as the town harlot.
The best part about the camping trip is when clay struggles to take his belt off to spank oral, it shows how his drinking suffocates his ability to love even in his own vindictive way
My favorite part of this show is a really engaging narrative about deconstructing religion while still examining the importance of faith. Imo i think it actually embraces the lessons of christianity in a world of structural inequality and institutional corruption. It somehow acknowledges hypocrisy within the church without demeaning the beliefs it was founded on, and in a way that doesnt treat its audience like they are too dumb to understand the difference or too cynical to appreciate the nuance. Also every person i have showed this show to has hated it lol
as a christian always seeking out actually good christian movies and shows, these kinds are always the absolute best, it's not making fun of the actual religion, but, as you finally said, deconstructs the constructs of it all, and sends out an actual message.
Blobertas line at the end of Season Two ("He doesn't change, Orel. That's just his true nature coming out") has... legitimately horrifying implications for Clay as a person. That the things he does when he's drunk are things he wanted to do anyway? Horrifying.
i’m pretty sure the very essence of alone isn’t just that they’re all women that weren’t wed so they were cast aside. its that all these women have had their bodily autonomy taken away from them and how that plays into the every day problems they face. how they are seen as less than human and the tolls that takes on them. leading them to over correct and use extreme coping mechanisms.
@@user-fe8gx3ie5v they have autonomy in others ways but over their body it has been stripped from them. Nurse was raped as a child and has incredibly morally wrong relations as an adult with people with power over her. The teacher was raped. Rape quite literally is violating someone’s bodily autonomy. The old woman was forcibly sterilized.All of these show a lack of control over what has happened or is happening to their body.
@@sienna6580 Yes, but she's been working on overcoming it. That particular section of the video was implying they had none. Even with lingering mental issues, they are still able to function well enough to work and survive, even if their private lives are a mess.
@@user-fe8gx3ie5v That's the point. It's delving into the private part of the lives of women who have been violated in that way, showcasing the pain and coping mechanisms that women who either can't afford or don't want therapy use. Them being functioning adults is the cover for the pain they all feel having had their autonomy violated. They're not okay, despite how they present themselves in public. Most rape survivors are like this. That's most likely what the show was trying to convey
Clay might be a bastard but its really no wonder. He experienced very intense trauma at a young age with it later manifesting as a sexual kink as an adult. That and his father, quite literally gave up on him, causing him to interpret abuse/neglect as affection. This show is a psych majors wet dream
The writers did have plans for both Florence and Officer Papermouth. Florence was supposed to lose some weight and become more attractive and still flirts with Rev Putty. Putty at first wouldn’t be interested but eventually she wins him over and they develop a loving relationship. Bloberta would eventually start an affair with Papermouth and she would be genuinely happy for once. Miss Censordoll and Clay were to start having affair together and she secretly manipulates Clay in how Moralton is being run and eventually takes control. Censordoll essentially becomes the puppet master of the Town.
Having just watched Midnight Mass I can't help but draw a character line from Ms. Censordoll and Beverly Keene, especially if these were the plans they had for her character.
The line "Oh he doesn't change that's just his true nature showing up" is so interesting to me. We see later that she encourages Clay to drink bc her father drinks, and that she does think it's the only way to be authentic. She even says this line with endearment. And yet, you can see how if the tone had been different, if there had been any comfort after it, it could be seen as what it sounds like to oral, almost a warning or a threat. It is a very clever and relatable line. So easy to take out of context or tone and all of the interpretation are correct
As someone who saw the series premiere back in 2005, I honestly thought it was just a one off Adult Swim Christmas short. The network was chaotic like that. So when I found out it was a series and watched it, It didn't take the enjoyment out. This series played at 1 or 2 am so you are in a twilight stage of being either half awake or under the influence of something. So the out of order airing was the vibe.
Fun fact: The term for the state between awake and asleep is called Hypnogogic. Pointless fact I just wanted to tell you about the twilight state you mentioned.
43:10 I'm going off the context in this video, but this dialogue is actually kinda brilliant, as I'm assuming he's describing both his relationship to his wife and alcoholism in a double meaning, two things he believes should cater to him but also harm him, but only because of his own toxicity. if that makes sense
Can I just say I feel like there’s untapped analytical potential in the fact that when Orel covers his mouth after using the “wrong” prayer, Christine immediately uses her jacket to cover her already covered body and says “don’t look at me like that”.
The finale really shows how much strength Orel really had. His life was miserable. But he eventually had a family that loved actually loved him. Definitely one of my favorite series finales I’ve seen. And I’m honestly glad it ended when it did. Before outsiders tried to mold it and change it into something it wasn’t. And it’s one of the show I hope never gets revived. Better to go out on a high
Moral Orel is alongside Bojack horseman as one of those shows where I tell people, "it's one of the best written, most unique shows I've ever seen. Never watch it. it will depress you
I once read a comment on another RUclips video that was pretty close to this: "Moral Orel walked so BoJack Horseman could run". It sounds like both shows are quite often compared to one another.
I don’t know how or why, but this video has accidentally become my comfort video. I’ve seen it a million times, and I’ll watch it a million more. Great job.
Season 3 is twisted. The reveals of Clay and Bloberta’s pasts made these comedically over the top neglectful and nasty people much more realistic. It’s scary and depressing because it makes them completely believable.
If I may offer an alternative interpretation of the Figurelli segregation episode.... I think it speaks to the show's themes of how moral rigidity coupled with religious fundamentalism cause undue suffering even onto the ones who propagate it. The town was so willing to segregate the one minority family in town to appeal to some sense of traditionalist order that it inadvertently ends up backfiring by allowing the Figurellis to receive additional privileges in the town, while peoples' resentment of them continued to grow. People began to hate them for their perceived privileges, but it was the people who hated them that allowed those privileges to take root in the first place. Despite the town people suffering from the segregation they all collectively imposed on their minority population, they continue to do it and then act like it's the fault of the one family they're excluding. They are causing their own suffering by being segregationist bigots when they don't have to be.
Sort of like how Christians said Jews could only do the "dirty" jobs like moneylending and later finance (Goldman-Sachs practically inventing modern finance), and later other "dishonest" jobs like acting/entertainment (before movies really caught on, actors were viewed as trash; even Shakespeare's Globe Theatre was located in the red-light district), then whining about those fields having so many Jews.
This show does a wonderful job of portraying a innocent child’s perception of his terrible life slowly turning into the realization of what’s actually happening
Lol I worked on this show so many years ago. It's fun to look back and remember it, it's been a while since I've not really seen it since I worked on it.
"You can't compare you and her to Orel and his little Orelet." "Why cause were two girls and tolerance is only a pretend theme?" "No, because she never cared about you." DAMN, talk about a curve ball, never expected that dialogue.
42:24 Clay is not the worst character in the show. Maybe the worst person, but he’s definitely the most well written, which makes him the best character in the show.
There's a difference between "worst character" as in worst written and the most hatable. He is the most morally rerprehensible character in the show, therefore he is the worst character. Like how you would call someone you don't like "The worst" in real life. You can see the distinction very obviously in the Breaking Bad fandom. Skylar is far from the worst written character in the show, but that didn't stop people from hating her so much they sent her actress death and rape threats.
As a Christian myself, I appreciate this show’s existence because it tackled a topic that I myself have issues with. People misinterpreting the Bible for their own personal gain, and combining it with their own values.
Tbh it's a special type of art for everyone since most of the population is Christianity. I'm both christian and catholic and ngl this is a very special type of show that shows the deep dark side of religious folk Because it is a huge yikes. Since most church are like "beer is bad" "luxury clothes is a sin" "not giving donations to the church (aka money) is a sin" etc etc. The deeper it goes, the dark it is ya know.
@@Nyax50Lopez I don't think this shows the "darker side" of religion or church in general, as it's not really the church's fault. Some sick, messed up people just choose to use people faith in God for their own personal gain(be it financial or something else). Hopefully the church's you've went to repent and change their ways.
The dog calling himself “jesus” and showing unconditional love is supposed to rrepresent, Jesus Christ and his unconditional love for every man and woman who lives by dying for them and accepting them unconditionally despite their sins, the truth and core message message of Christianity .
If you look very closely at the pictures on the wall, you'll see a red haired fireman and a blonde policeman. Had the series not been canceled prematurely, there was going to be an episode focused on Shapey and Block, showing them both becoming a little better as they begin to bond and care for each other, and in those photos, you see despite their childhood, they grew up to be good adults
That dejected look in orel's eyes after the end of the camping trip never left my mind, even after years after I seen that episode. They show death, even while the poor boy keeps breathing
I remember seeing a few episodes on TV back in the day and I wanted to show my sister because i thought she'd find it funny but when we watched it was part two of Nature and we both sat there uncomfortable as hell at what was happening until my sister finally said "this is just depressing"
Here is my cover of No Children for those interested.
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Guy named time : 😨😨😨
this cover is amazing. i almost thought it was the original version when it played at the end bro amazing job
Oh shit
I always found it brilliant how the show starts with the horror trope of a Zombie take over, but a simple camping trip was the most terrifying thing that took place.
Damn.
Unfortunately, it is easier to deal with zombies then it is with someone you are supposed to have unconditional love like your parents.
Lol frfr
@@laurakiner3942you say that now
It gets realer and probably why that's more terrifying
The fact that Reverand Putty of all people was one of the few people who grew and bettered himself as a person by the end of the show,was the real plot twist.
Honestly your right
He was a misguided man, but started to wake up as the stiry went on
the only downside is the fact that he's racist
Totally agree
his character development reminds me of the ice king from adventure time like its literally the same thing
@@mistyglasses0.063 No.
I always got the impression that doughys parents got married as teenagers just to avoid "the sin of premarital sex" and are only together for that reason
this seems more likely to me than being so madly in love that they neglect doughy. Plus it might be reflective of their inner immaturity. They have an immature view of sex and marriage which emotionally/mentally stunted them and even as parents theyre not able to fully mature and grow past high school maturity. And doughy pays the ultimate price. No one in moralton cares about any of it because theyre not having sex outside of marriage and thats all that really matters to anyone. I doubt anyone in moraton, as miserable as they all are, even envy their relationship because its so obvious that neither are playing with a full deck and aren't truly living up to the ideal nuclear family.
yesssssss I THINK THIS TOO@@elleofhearts8471
@@elleofhearts8471 pretty sure that was pretty plainly stayed. Hell, his last name was Latchkey
@@Not_Always I loved the last names of the characters
Think it’s pretty telling how when Doughy got hurt and went to his mom for help, she was actually about to help by finding a bandaid until his dad entered the room and her attention was fully focused elsewhere
"Your mom likes your dad?"
Jeez, that line hit me.
I thought it was kind of funny ngl
@@s0prano_fairy it was, but the delivery was like a punch
brutal man
it's kind of my fear if i ever miraculously get a partner that ill start to stop loving her or something which is kind of why i start to get scared when i don't like my crush as much as i used to
me too!! I had a similar one growing up: “your parents sleep in the same room?”
it hits hard
One thing - in the segregation episode, Orel doesn't burn down the rest of Moralton, it catches fire because the fire department refuses to put out the fire at the Figurelli house and it spreads. The adults blame Orel for the fire because segregating the Figurellis was his idea.
Yup
And the only buildings that survived was a new house for the Figurelli’s and the church, lmao it quite literally blew up in their own faces
I can’t believe you forgot to mention during the camping trip with a drunk father, he simply utters “I hate you, dad.” Finally not just backtalking but accepting that he doesn’t blindly love his family anymore, in fact, the opposite, and he’s not afraid to say it. Also coach telling Orel that his dad did one good thing, make him, finally giving Orel his own internal self worth, not external from the church or his family.
I made some mistakes, but this is something I didn't actually forget. I probably should have said something myself, but instead I tried adding that clip in for full effect. For whatever reason, though, Content ID kept copyright claiming that part.
Honestly i feel like Morel still blindly loves his family
He just isent blind to their actions, hes waking up and isent a Blissful child. But he still loves them, hes the kid of person who would learn to hate themself before others
This one stayed with me the most.
Coach stop frame was probably one of the best characters in the show at least for that moment alone. He was able to give the young boy an understanding that honor isn't something that you're given or earned it's something that you need to find for yourself
The closure of Orel and Coach was so heartwarming. Not only did Coach finally cut off a toxic person, but Orel finally had a decent male figure in his life.
Its sad, but also wholesome that Orel has his family framed on the wall. Despite all the abuse and neglect he dealt with throughout his childhood, he still honors them with a photo. Even Block And Shapey get their pictures on the wall. Block, even though not biologically related, is still considered a brother to Orel. One could argue that it was Christine that hung it up, but I like thinking it was Orel since we don't see Christine's parents present.
I like to think shapy and vlocky got a happy ending too.
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Pretty sure they did^
In the photos, you see that Shapey is now a police man and Block is a firefighter. Both of those positions involve helping people and they seem to be happy
@@willieboi. police man….helping people….lmao
@@bubbles4897Jesus christ atleast try to be a little optimistic, not everything has to be the worst that it can be
@@bubbles4897poor little guy. Life is shit when you act like that. I would know
Carolyn Lawrence (the voice actor of orel and sandy cheeks)
Once stated; “There are moments where my heart broke for Orel while I was playing him, He touched me emotionally more than any character I’ve ever played.”
bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat, sandy cheeks from spongebob is orel!?!?!? mind blown
ow
That hurt my heart I never knew Orel was SANDY CHEEKS
@@LoRosa0224turn the other (sandy) cheek(s)
Cindy from Jimmy Neutron too
Literally just realized that the reason Orel never got punished for any of the laws he broke (and people he literally killed) and instead Clay just got to take him home is because Clay is the fucking Mayor.
"Stinkin' dead end job..."
Took me a while to connect the dots, you'd think it was quite obvious but I'm also quite dumb
How much $ does clay make then, since he always seems to lack or just a cheapskate.
@@berniekatzroy Have you seen his study? He wastes every cent he can spend in booze and weapons
@@alucardsantradideus267 oh
My favorite “ joke” from the series was the reverend praying for a woman to love forever, but instead of a wife he gets an adult daughter
He got everything he asked for 😂 minus the sin
He wanted a women, so he could have a family. He wanted the fun time inbetween, but fate gave him what he needed
Florence wanted to be with him but he rejected her :(
@@iluvpink1176 Florence was also cheating on her husband, trust me the show would have elaborated more on the story. No one in Morelton is clean or pure.
And he was just desperate for affection, and she offered it. Clay even shames him later for it XD "Must be some desperate sap, who feeds of the desperation of the women"
:’) it’s really sweet
It’s one of my favourite Orel scenes. That, all the best things start with F, Family, Friends, Faith and of course Fucking and sometimes we’re greedy and we want all the F things, when we aren’t happy with the F things we already have. Reverend could finslly have 3 of those things now. Family and Friends, his daughter and Faith.
Even if clearly the show wasn’t meant to end that early, I’m still glad to see that by the end, after everything that possibly happened after that last confrontation, Orel got to break the cycle of abuse.
Hard agree. As much as I wanted it to continue, I like the ending
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Bartholomew being symbolic of the actual type of acceptance and love that Jesus preached for and being thourughly rejected by everyone in town except for Orel is just...so good
Dude's never read revelations.
@@huguesdepayens807 God is just. Revelations is the end times.
@@officialLWH can you explain more?
@@internationaltroller8242the book of Revelation deals with the end of the world and what happens after. Here’s a general, very simplistic overview of it in order:
Natural and Supernatural disasters happen
AntiChrist and demons rise
Much of humanity bends the knee to said AntiChrist and demons
New world order
Angels and prophets would preach
More natural and supernatural disasters
Jesus returns with the heavenly host and destroys the AntiChrist and humanity’s militaries that aligned with him
The devil is thrown into a prison hole for 1k years
Jesus reigns as king over Earth for 1k years
Devil comes back and lots of people follow him
God defeats them and throws the devil into the lake of fire (hell 2.0)
JUDGEMENT DAY FOR ALL HUMANS
God remakes the universe so that evil would be no more and that He would always be physically present with humanity
Again, this is a very simple overview of it. I suggest you read it if you haven’t yet.
@@internationaltroller8242 revelations is for when he gives up on us. Beside, Gods love and Jesus' love is different. Jesus was human, he was born, he lived, he worked, he married. His love for us is as a fellow man allowing him to also have empathy for us. God isn't human, his love is more like the love a person has for something they created. You can hold love for them or it, but it can be difficult to empathize with someone who doesn't feel pain or suffering.
My favorite part of the camping trip is when Orel looks up at clay and says “I hate you” he’s finally acknowledging the truth about his father and let’s himself feel his emotions instead of constantly denying them. I’m so glad he breaks away from the generational trauma and goes on to have a happy life
My favorite part was when he said “ITS MORAL TIME!” And started orelling the bad guys
@@yuriscynicism omg so true bestie
That scene was incredible and tragic at the same time because after oral says to his dad "I hate you"he lost all respect for him which is understandable considering clay shot his own son which could have killed him
@@animezilla4486 Right but it also is a huge thing because as a devout Christian Morel always held the belief of honoring and respecting his father and seeing his father as a pathetic vindictive destructive drunk and tries to twist his deplorable actions as possible to Orel.
Hate away sister, hate away
Something I want to add is how the storylines themselves also represent Orel's loss of innocence. In the beginning, a lot of the episodes are super outlandish events that would probably be made up by a little kid. They're probably Orel exaggerating real events, hence the 0 consequences. Before Orel loses his innocence, the worst horror he can imagine is a zombie apocalypse. But by the camping trip, when he has lost all his innocence, the plots have become much more grounded in reality and Orel realizes that the worst horror is actually real life.
True.
Maybe ptsd and he skewed his views a bit. But by the end he "grew up". So everything is crystal clear and aside from reprecussions we see its because his dad was mayor. And he pretty much has his family get away with anything
That’s funny because I used to watch this show when I was a young kid and stayed up too late. I actually forgot about it until now
my absolute favorite bit from "nature" is when clay initially asks orel what happened, he responds "i got shot by you". notice how he words this sentence to make clay more passive and indirect in his actions, possibly even pinning the blame on himself for his dad shooting him. then later, clay asks orel if he killed the bear. completely fed up with his shit and his view of his father irreversibly changed, orel responds with the direct "no dad, you killed it." such a subtle thing but it kills me
did it kill you.. or did you get killed by it
And that added element of Orel trapping Clay into taking credit for killing the bear, and therefore admitting he also shot Orel.
Brilliant use of passive vs active voice
not to sound rude, but how is it subtle?
its not layered dialogue, clay literally says "orel, what have you done?" to which he responds "i got shot by you dad". like, yeah, he does shift the blame into himself, but thats after clay sets orel up to take the blame in the first place. especially since we have already been shown clays pov on blame and authority figures on the episode where principal fakey cheats on his wife with nurse bendy
i mean subtle as in it wasnt something i noticed on my first watch, maybe some people did. imo changing the way a character structures their sentences to show how they're developing is a subtle detail especially in comparison to everything else that happens in nature
I find it comical that with Orel's, the dads, the pastor and other mens stories were told it was just 'off the wall' but the plug had to be pulled when the WOMEN started to have more of a storyline with their trauma.
Also deeply fucking misogynistic
this is absolutely transcendental humor
the reality is the punchline of the fiction it's trying to warn us
Yup Alone really makes me hate AS because r@pe was totally fine to show when it was played off as a joke in season 1 but when they showed the very real aftermath and affects it has on the victims, it’s too much and gets the show pulled.
fuck Mike Lazzo for canceling this show
That sort of reminds me of the cancellation of MDE Presents: World Peace. When things get real, AS pulls the plug. At least we have Smiling Friends.
something important to note about Nurse Bendy is she's a CSA survivor. That's also partly why she's so regressed. She was a *kid* when she had Joey
Wtf
@@highdefinition450 and he’s so old, it’s actually terrifying
@@Vineshsien mhm.
It also makes the way she just dissociates when the men in town have sex with her so much more uncomfortable.
I went to check the wiki to see how old nurse bendy is and she is 24, Joe is 12. She gave birth when she was 12.
I feel sick.
"it starts off rather innocent with orel getting addicted to crack" by far the weirdest sentence in this video.
Not "Orel impregnating the entire town's women with a baker's pouch"? Or smth close?
@@blessiemasancay4818 that's certainly a contender.
This is going to get deep
Weird....Why tho?
@@Remorsefullyhumble you're weird
1:11:24 ok the subtle humor of a *reverend* having an "I hate my boss" cup is simply next-level
true
Lmaooo
I always loved that
Also "reverend wins eating contest"
The sin of Gluttony 🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿
The scene of clay saying I love you to the coach but still being unable to say it to HIM (by saying “I love you… Orel”) and the coach immediately losing any semblance of hope for clay in his eyes breaks me. Clay is a horrible disgusting person, but the coach was the one non-destructive force in his life and seeing clay’s acceptance of losing that as he enters his house with his wife he hates and kids he feels nothing for is really heartbreaking. It really is showing the karmic force of the show, saying clay was not worthy of this last little bit of happiness he had.
It was supposed to cont.
Had it not cancelled i do believe it was stated the parents would've ended up seperated with different people
Jesus dude, are you okay?
Dunno how you can see any of this show and blame individuals rather then the culture of rejecting yourself for 'religion'
@@whwhywhywhywhywhywhyThey are not mutually exclusive. You can acknowledge the unfair background someone came from, and still hold them accountable for their own actions. Clay is an adult.
@@bananasinfrench I agree with robert sapolsky when it comes to crime, punishment and free will.
also Clay is a clay figure, not an adult. The writers clearly wanted us to feel empathy for all the awful lives of their characters.
The fact that his brothers grew up to hold careers and have stable lives makes me happy. ❤
Me too, Rachael Ross. Me too. 😊
Where did you see this
@@xijinping3317 at the very end of the last episode, you can see them as their jobs in picture frames, shapey as a police officer and block as a fireman
I thought I was the only one that notice!!
thats very nice and heartwarming tho
56:34 Nurse Bendy was raped by Joe's father the doctor when she was a little girl (12 because she's 24 and she says he's half as old as her) which is why she regresses. Her whole breakdown is behind that. This episode is really heavily based upon these women's trauma with femininity and motherhood
i resonate with *so* many of the women on the show, but especially Bendy..
@@colorblockpoprocks6973 Im so sorry about what happened to you, I really hope that you do better and get the justice you deserve
Glad that she got a good ending on the show
@@redjoker365 her and joe :)
IM SORRY (Slams hands on Table) FUCKING 12?!?!
as a kid i always thought orel's dad was secretly the devil. the red velvet robe, the fact that everyone was either terrified of him or just outright listened to him without question.
Honestly I actually believe that- his hair line makes it look like horns as well
I thought this too, and now I'm shocked that was not the case. 😭
Glad I wasn't the only one
turns out he was just a politician after all
other stuff that i feel go with this headcannon/interpretation:
-Hes often lit in with red light or actual fire
-his den/room/pit of hell is a dark place with open access to sinful things (weapons, alcohol, expensive or indulgent items like the velvet robe as you guys mentioned, forbidden knowledge if you consider the bookshelves or the """truths""" Clay teaches him, etc.)
he constantly lives in a hell of his own making
a job and lifestyle that he deeply resents, people that remind him of all the decisions he regrets
made to forever think about and look at reminders of what he despises
-dissapointed and was disowned/ distanced from an important paternal figure (ok thats prob reaching as far as the satan parallel but you get what i mean)
-temps the pure offspring with sin and actions they both feel are wrong (tempts him with killing and using violence, instills a shitton of values that would make Orel just like him, etc.)
and acts as a test of their faith and purity
I can FEEL orels discomfort around his dad, it's too relatable.
Yeah, my father was also a horrible narcissistic alcoholic who beat me, so yeah, it's pretty relatable, sadly
@@hairlessgrizzly559I hope you’re having a good life and doing well
Hope your okay
One of my favorite moments in the show was when Shapey said to his mother "When I'm thirsty, it feels how I feel when I'm alone." It broke my heart. He was begging to be mothered the whole time.
RIGHT
If I remember correctly I think that was the only full sentence he said in the show
I just realized: if Christina is Orel's counterpart, and she appears to be a loving partner, parent, and Christian at the end of the series like Orel, then she likely went thru a similar journey as him.
Kinda interested in what her life was like.
I bet it was probably the exact same as what oral went through only with a few slight changes she never went on a hunting trip and what happened with her brother moving in with the puffington family apparently was a good thing because it meant that she still had a way to contact orel despite them being apart so they could reconnect once they had ditched the perspective horrible families. Not to mention let's not forget the end we see block and shape he became a fire chief and a police chief respectively for a couple of kids who had serious neurodivergent problems that is honestly heartwarming for all of the crappiness that their families had Christina orrell block and shapy all actually got a better life than what their parents had originally set them up for
I have a theory that Christina's life was, for the most part, Orel's life but instead, her abuse and revelations came from her mother and not her father. Perhaps her father was too overwhelmed with work and, growing up in a Christian household turned Jewish (Don't ask lol), I know from experience that it's always the mothers that are expected to tend to the daughters because daughters are "emotional", "unreasonable" and "overreactive". Therefore, I imagine Christina would be either brushed off or chastised when she'd have an opinion or call the town/her parents out. Maybe she got into mischief like Orel did at some point too and would get cleaning as a punishment, rather than spankings.
Also, maybe, there was a parallel to the camping trip like a "Girl's night" or something under that umbrella of gender stereotypes where Christina had a similar experience with her mom.
This is all speculation though, but I have thought about it quite a lot.
Moral oral?
Nah. Christian christina
I'm glad you brought that up ☝ because I noticed when Bloberta went to switch the boys, both wanted to stay with her. It implies that Christina's mom was probably a worse mother to Blocky(?) than Bloberta was to Shapey.
@@alexandriahunt6058 that's something I never really thought of before but yeah clearly their family must have been horrible enough for both kids to decide that they want to stay with the puffingtons. That means that that mother must have been even less caring than bloberta
i understand that Clay is a huuuuge piece of work but hearing him crying, pleading, reaching out to the coach with "I love you" never fails to just shatter me.
Yeah, sympathetic villain stuff with him. You really hate everything you’ve seen them do but knowing all the stuff he went through and how truly sad that moment is. Knowing his whole story never justifies his so shitty actions but damn does it make moments like that hit so hard. So much feels there.
That's how toxic people do it. They can be huge monsters but they have the ability to tap into your sympathy. Plus I think he might have actually had real feeling for Coach so there is some genuine love in his speech.
I don't buy it. I never bought it.
It's amazing how they managed to portray someone so broken, with everything out in the air explaining how he got there, and yet maintained how he's irredeemable. Just like some people in real life, he's too far gone, beyond saving. And I don't think a show before or since has ever portrayed such a dark reality with such nuance.
I could feel bad for him
At the same time,all I could think was,wow... This man is truly pathetic,isn't he
1) You forgot to mention the scene after the credits of Season 3, Episode 13 where Orel packs up all his claymation gear and gifts it to Shapey & Block.
2) I found the ending to be surprisingly heartwarming. The final line is “every once in a while, a miracle happens” as we see Orel’s age progression; ending on a shot of Orel happily married to Christina and has a loving family.
imagine Clay and Bloberta living together after Orel, Shapey, and Block moved out. the deafening, deadly silence.
God that is daunting
Sounds like heaven to me
Well originally before the show got cancelled bloberta was supposed to end up with officer papermouth
I don't think Shapey and Block are going anywhere :(
@@drf6377 Not true. If you look at the pictures in the frames in the final shot. Shapey became a cop and Block a firefighter. I like to think that Orel stepped up to raise them in place of Clay and Bloberta. It's only head canon, however, I base it on Orel being the only one to ever show concerned with their well being through out the series. Also them moving onto jobs that help others seems very Orelesk in my opinion, suggesting his influence in their upbringing.
The mountain goats "no children" is obviously a extremely depressing song of a awful relationship where no love remains, but one lyric "Our friends say it's darkest before the sun rises
We're pretty sure they're all wrong" seems to imply that this couple agrees on one thing, and no one agrees with them. I always interpreted it as the couple is so similar that that they can't help but hate each other because they hate themselves, and can't bare to be stuck with themselves in a way. Sort of a twist on "opposites attract", and that fits in nicely with moral oral parents i think
I sort of agree. I interpret it to mean that the friends are trying to say their relationship may be bad, but just wait for the light at the end of the tunnel. Whereas the couple just thinks, "nah. As long as we're together, the tunnel has no end. We're stuck in the dark."
I like “I hope I cut myself shaving tomorrow, I hope it bleeds all day long”
This
Misery loves company
the whole album Tallahassee is a brutal listen. it paints a picture of hating your partner and yourself. i listened to it in a dingy motel during a blizzard, the sense of isolation that album gives is just crushing.
Something about Morels dog that really hit me was that his death is supposed to represent how the romans executed Jesus. He did nothing but spread love and even “cured the sick” (the girl in the wheelchair). His popularity and message of love made the adults (roman’s) angry because he posed a threat. Which is the exact reasons why Jesus in the bible was executed. So the same people who make their lives revolve around Jesus and being holy became the ones who killed him, metaphorically.
The dog called himself Jesus. It couldn't be more on the nose
The town isn’t Jewish and they aren’t making the government kill the dog so I didn’t get the message
@@magicman3163 You do know that Jesus... was a jew, right? He didn't create Christianity. He was Jewish, he celebrated passover, his mother and father were Jewish.
@@grandempressvicky6387 he was like Martin Luther his group branched out from the original branch and modern Jews are different since they have new books like the Talmund that advocate that they are the master race and Goyim must be killed or raped
@@grandempressvicky6387 Don't use logic. It'll confuse and anger them.
28:11 I remember as a kid our pastor told this to my sister after one of our cats died and it legitimately traumatized her pretty badly. Neither of us go to church anymore as adults.
I had a teacher at Catholic School tell this to a girl who’s dog had just died.
@@MorriganReadsI am so sorry for what happened to you! As a christian I believe animals go to heaven to. There is a psalm that says God preserves everything (or something like that) which would include animals.
I understand you had a bad experience, but you shouldnt just abandon church. It helps us grow and stay sharp in the Lord! I personally think that animals go to heaven to, as a psalm says something along the lines of: God preserves everything. That would mean animals to right? I dont know.. but we will all find out someday. God bless you sir or ma'am. Jesus loves you and your sister very much!
@@mariagil2170 I’m personally much happier now that I’ve permanently left the church.
@@mariagil2170 the reasons I don't go to church extend far beyond that one little incident, the main one being I disagree with what it teaches.
the "Lust Guard 6001" joke is hilarious to me because it implies that there are 5999 other unseen attempts at developing the best way of dividing two beds
Wouldn't it be 6000
@@yuarentlucky nah we saw 6000 during the show
@@waldornprime5567 you are correct
@@yuarentlucky note the "unseen"
Wait what if there was more than 6001
Idk maybe clay got more techniques than geopliticians fighting over disputes
I wouldn’t call Nurse Bendy delusional. She is coping via age regression. She knows the stuffed animals aren’t actually people, she is attached to them because they comfort her. She functions as an adult outside of her house, but clearly it takes a lot of emotional effort and she needs a way to de-stress and process in an environment she finds safe.
Also I love Mrs. Secondopinionson’s voice. I’m a trans man and I have a higher voice than I want. When I’m trying to make a good impression I deepen my voice via lowering my larynx, for the same reason she pinches her nose. Not all trans women have a high voice, estrogen actually has little to no effect on your vocal cords, so her voice would make sense in the context of an overstressed trans woman who doesn’t have the time or energy to voice train.
and when she finally finds and connects with her actual, living, breathing, biological child, she starts to heal and it makes me cry every time
That’s one of my favorite episodes in the series. It’s really cool to see her break through moment when she connects with Joe
@@rowan-priince1860 You're right that estrogen has little effect on the vocal cords, however testosterone does. Transwomen who have gone through a male puberty can compensate by using a falsetto register like countertenors do, but transmen may have more difficulty, lacking the scaffolding to produce the lower tone, unless hormone therapy can replicate a male puberty if taken soon enough.
Its a delusion all the same
1:12:08 that scene felt so real to me. You don’t have to be gay to understand what Oral’s father was feeling in that moment. The layers of complexity of a man who’s been shown to be uncaring and slowly falling apart, finally break and show how valuable he truly is. In his moment of need, he wanted an out. He wanted to move away from this life he never wanted. He saw coach stop frame as that perfect way out. But it was already too late. Frame was tired of waiting and getting moved to the side all the time. Tired of not getting a real answer from the man, and finally, once he did get it, it didn’t even feel that satisfying to him. He knew he was just emotional. He knew it was too late.
I honestly dont think clay is gay, maybe bi, but he mostly just looks for someone that adores him like his mother did, anyone who would put him in a pedestal and worthship him
42:24 "so hes the worst character and i hate him" this man said what we are ALL thinking. it doesnt matter if clay had a bad childhood (which was actually pretty good until he accidentally killed his mom). that is no excuse to get shit faced and SHOOT YOUR SON IN THE LEG.
He's horrible but there are reasons as to why he is horrible, namely his dad and Bloberta specifically which did a pretty good job making me feel somewhat sympathetic towards him
@@bigmannn2443Bloberta is responsible for her shitty life but she isn't, in my opinion, at fault for what happened to Clay. He was already broken because of what happened to his mom and his dad being abusive towards him. Her offering alcohol to him was just a trigger, he would try it eventually and probably become a horrible person eather way.
Don't forget, also blaming your son for your shooting him in the leg.
Clay is simultaneously a terrible person, but a brilliantly-written character
Clay is horrible yes, but he’s not a bad character because he’s written so well
I think what really brought the show's writing together was how it could have leaned into easy cynicism and anti-religiousness but instead explores the positive effects Orel's earnestness and unbreakable conscience have on his community and how despite all the terrible things they are responsible for many of them start the process of healing and growing into better and more rounded people.
The scene where Reverend Putty just sits in the pew and actually listens to Orel is extremely powerful imagery.
Good take
@Deniselee28 This has “Shut the hell your mouth” energy
@Deniselee28 what does this mean?
@Deniselee28 you… having a forever stroke?
@Deniselee28 it’s not clever, just an observation
6:39
Fun fact!
Orel’s abusive/toxic family was actually inspired by Butter’s abusive/toxic family (from South Park)!
Damn I was thinking this was like butters version of the story.
Like orels parents look so similar to Butters
Source on that?
@@odnill like what season and what episode
Yeah... I noticed the similarities
@@hipsterelephant2660in the south park episode “butters’ very own episode”, it has butters go into his dads study and learn a lesson about lying. its very moral orel aesc because butters’ dad looks almost identical to clay, and the study is similar as well.
a lot of people speculate that moral orel is based off of it because the episode aired in 2001, and moral orel came out in 2005.
I didn’t even realize when watching the show that when boberta hit clay the that first time and said he needed her help, that he felt cared for not because she was helping him but because she hit him….
That's probably because (if you've watched this entire show) Clay's father used to hit him and Clay used to take that as a form of affection.
You're right oh my
I kind of like the fact there's no resolution with Orel's family at the end. Sometimes you don't get everything in life wrapped up in a neat little bow. It shows that you don't need things that way either, that despite having a horrible childhood there's still hope to grow up better.
When Orel denied Clay the satisfaction of being proud of him for killing the bear was awesome. He didn't even want the pride of such a shitty person anymore, it became worthless in 1 night
this was probably my fav scene of she show. the way he stops to think about saying the truth and having tre approval of his father, something he longed for before the camping trip, just to realize he hates his father too much to even give him the smallest amount of satisfaction felt like a punch in the stomach. such a small kid having to mature so fast
The POV scene where Clay walks to his room in “Numb” is, I think, one of if not the most disturbing, bitter, and tragic scenes in television history, especially when he stops for a moment at a family picture. The nonexistent facade of a happy family that has now fully crumbled. You can’t help but feel sorry for everyone, including Clay.
I saw a few episodes with my mom but she stopped watching because Clay reminded her too much of her dad, who thankfully got clean in his later years. It was also one of the last shows I watched with my Dad before he died, so it has kind of a soft spot for me.
Obviously Clay and Bloberta are evil pieces of shit but they’re all a victim of something and suffering silently in their own misery. It doesn’t excuse their actions but rather humanizes them into realistic characters
goddamn, to see your own parents or elders still grappling with the people who made such an impact on their childhood is so heartbreaking, i hope you guys remember the shared experience of this show as more of a positive and can both reflect on how to never repeat the literal sins of the father
In the episode alone, there is this heartbreaking scen with nurse bendy. She goes to clean something up and the bear falls on her behind. She gets really upset and starts sobbing "not you, you can't!" over and over. It's so awful because it implies quite heavily that she not only lost her children to her baby daddy, she was also being abused by him. In my opinion it recontextualises her scene with all of the men in the show. After trauma from abuse some people become hypersexual which would explain why she has relations with certain men despite disliking him. Although it being the reason the show got cancelled, I think that it's one of the best episodes. It's heartbreaking and brilliant
To me, that scene is the darkest in the entire show. It was such a raw moment and her sobbing over that teddy bear has stuck with me since I watched it.
That’s honestly one of the most harrowing moments I’ve ever seen on TV
well given nurse bendy canonically is 24, Joe is 12, she was 100% raped as a child and forced to have a baby
I think this show is a great textbook example of "real horror disturbs the comfortable and comforts the disturbed." I've suffered through my own religious trauma from K-8, so it definitely speaks to me. I wish adult shows would be more actually adult in this sense these days. Btw, to all the trans women in the comments saying they relate to Ms. secondopinionson, you're all queens and beautiful as hell. love you
you can't change your DNA. XX and XY are immutable, sex chromosomes can never, and will never, be changeable
She isn’t trans
It being pulled after Alone makes that saying hit even harder
I could be wrong about this but do you notice that his dad's alcohol is like pinkish at the first season like juice and he drinks milk instead of liquor in one episode. Its like orel doesn't notice his alcoholic nature.
The ending scene of the final episode also has photos hung on the wall, them being:
- A red haired firefighter, presumably Blocky, posing with pride. Next to that photo is of a blonde law enforcement officer also posing with pride, presumably Shapey. They're both in professions that require heavy discipline and maturity, something they never had as children. It's clear that the two have moved on and developed well some point in the future, but it also displays what they both live for. After Shapey being heavily neglected as a child and Blocky being abandoned by his family, they both presumably felt helpess and vulnerable as kids and what better way to help other vulnerable people than to enter professions that both exist for the sole purpose of rescuing and protecting others?
- We also see a photo of Bloberta and Clay next to the cross. Despite all the trauma Orel was forced to endure by the hands of his parents, he still has enough love to display them in his house. We all know how good of a person he truly is, so it makes wonder if, despite them being... them, he hopes that one day they'll change and be loving parental figures even though we all know that they won't change
I’m so happy Oral doesn’t continue the cycle of abuse and raises a nice family in the end.
That makes me happy.
He broke the cycle of abuse by recognizing it very young and, likely, doing something about it. I imagine future seasons would have involved him escaping his family.
me too, cried so hard at that part
same
@@names_are_useless If you look on the walls of Oral’s house, you’ll notice he still has framed pictures of his family members, despite how much they’ve wronged him. Oral never “escaped”, because he still loves them. He just was able to see the flaws in their ways and never fell into temptation as they did, so he created the perfect Christian family he deserves with Christine
@@aaronlandry3934 The creator mentioned Orel was going to go through a Goth phase in Season 4 I believe, and distance himself from his family. It's clear Orel ended up with no ill-will towards Shapey or his Doppleganger. I noticed no pictures of his Father nor Mother.
I adore the “Buddha” segment as I see it as Orel realizing he can think for himself and be his own “god”. It’s one of the few times we see him at peace and it’s very similar to my own journey overcoming religious trauma
By replacing one religion with another?
@@huguesdepayens807Although Buddhism is qualified as a religion, it’s really more of a lifestyle than anything. It’s the idea that the world is already perfect and that one must accept themselves as they are in order to find inner peace, something no one in Moralton has been able to achieve. Orel was attaching too much of his self-worth and spirituality to a physical building (the church), when in reality he doesn’t need to. Buddha wasn’t trying to convert Orel, just telling him that his relationship with God is whatever he wants it to be, and it’s not dependent on outside physical forces.
Holy crap… them acknowledging that faith is not the problem but those who distort it and use their religion to further their own biases and agendas is miles more grounded and respectful than a vast majority of shows that poke fun at religion today, and just raises the show even higher on my watch list.
Yeah absolutely, I'm happy others can feel that..
I think this is really what elevates this series.
It can be easy to dismiss it as "Christianity Bad" as was a popular view of the era, but a close analysis pokes holes in that assessment. Orel's faith - the genuine faith and connection he has with religion, even as the institutions around that are warped by people's biases - is a consistently good thing in his life. It's the people around him that interpret things however suits them and to entrench their own biases that is portrayed as really harmful. And we see genuine growth from him, much of which emerged from his devout belief, be stifled over and over by people who would bend that positive thing to their own values.
The biggest example is when he gets an epiphany about the nature of the divine, and then his father beats it out of him until what is left is the church. But equally, how this religious town kills a dog that is the reincarnation of jesus for being too loving, and the like.
It would be very, very easy for a show like this to be "Christianity is a terrible institution and god sucks." But it doesn't go for that low-hanging fruit, and takes a more nuanced take about religion instead.
I really noticed that from clips i watched on RUclips of this show. I was born and raised a Catholic and although I wasn't raised not to question anything, I do come from a broken family and appreciate Orel so much. I didn't realize how similar i was as a kid until the end of the show. I love the message the show gives and will always recommend it to all my friends. Religious or not.
Faith IS the problem. Telling millions of people all over the world that something that is blatantly false and made up is true is cruel and inhumane.
@@areguapiri there comes a time where people grow to a certain age and question a lot of things they're told. Unless someone belongs to a family like Orel's (i hope it's really scarce nowadays) then they can leave whenever they want. My own brother is an atheist and still lives at home with the rest of us. We don't force him to do anything he doesn't want to and we have good relationships with him still. Trust me when I say that Christians and anyone who belongs to literally any other religion aren't mindless drones just following whatever their church leaders say. We have questioned, we have seen both sides of the argument, and we have decided. Our religion isn't abusing us and we're not being treated inhumanely by it. If you hate religion, then that's cool for you, but you don't have to say it's cruel and inhumane just because you don't believe.
never, never in media have I ever seen anyone ever address those feelings in sexual assault victims. Those taboo feelings of trying to desensitize and regain control of your experiences through almost convincing yourself you want it again. That's so raw and real and from an animated TV show.
As a CSA survivor, it's so fucking real. I used to think when I was younger that I wanted to marry my father because he was the only one who truly loved me. I'm honestly disgusted with myself and I wish I never thought those things
Fellow CSA victim here, and I'm also extremely thankful for it. It made me feel so heard and understood! It's also motivated me to write about my trauma more, in the form of a comic with characters dealing with their trauma. I want this shit to stop being "taboo" and have it be understood by others.
I hope you are not referring to Miss Sculptham's part of Alone. She intentionally got Mr. Creepler to "Attack" her. Any question is laid to doubt in an un-recorded third season script, shared by Dino.
@@doublepinger Bendy
In my opinion,
In these times where it's still taboo
This kind of taboo subjects can only be addressed in animation or books
Because i bet they would project those uncomfortable feelings onto love action actresses in harmful ways
The bathtub of blood was pretty obviously the children surrounding the tub cutting themselves to fill with their own blood. They are the innocent children, with Doughy even passing out from the blood loss.
I came in the comments to look for someone to mention this 😭 like those kids are on the brink of death 😭
I love that this show creates a state to portray a " fake view of Christian values" at this state is literally right where I grew up and I can promise you that all of the values portrayed in the show or exactly what I would throw as a kid. Is peak irony I love it! 😂
Yup. It's very close to the state I grew up in as well. I can concur.
@@Meromorphic I moved out of the"small town" I grew up in and now living in a metropolis city. I can promise you the way I start describing my town is " this racist town I grew up in" and then when I explained the situation, everyone agrees that it's racist as hell disguised as " Christian values"
@@jordanford9320I am a convert to Roman Catholic, and I find it disgusting what the hell some areas, particularly the south of America (I'm British) has warped the word of a loving lord. God wouldn't want you to be inherently hateful towards anything. He'd be angry at you for being needlessly horrible to someone who hurt you in the past. It's almost ironic.
@@jordanford9320 I dont think its fair to compare your ENTIRE small town to being racist, thats not fair, just like if i called your metropolis city a "overpopulated poop covered zoo that has too much crime"
i think it's because i didn't grow up in America, i live in the Philippines but I've never met christians irl except two of my teachers whose worst trait was just thinking being gay was a sin like this so it always confuses me when i see stuff and comments like this but it's disgusting when i think about people using God's word and lying about it for their own use. it's ironic because we're taught to have the utmost respect for Him and you have pos like the people mentioned doing the complete opposite of what they pretend they follow.
ngl it really hurts to watch this video and read the comment section but it's not like i completely don't understand
A nice detail I like to point out is at the very end, Shapey and the other brother have individual photos on the wall showing that they both managed to hold successful careers. They too overcame their obstacles to become happy and functional.
What I love about this show is that this show doesn’t tell you what to believe. It doesn’t tell you to be Athiest or Christian or anything. It’s just telling you to pay attention to who is influencing your beliefs. Don’t blindly follow something or someone who is using your belief to control you.
I’m not Christian due to my father using it to manipulate me but I do believe my own spirituality.
Also ending theme to never lose faith even if all hope is lost.
But yeah ironically through all the bs morel kept his faith and religion.
I wish the show continued. Would've loved to see a deus ex with reverned putty he was changing for the good. Also not enough of that old lady whom i felt always controlled clay who controlled the town. Very easily in the few episodes we see her she was able to have a firm grasp and mold clay like....clay lol.
Well, even as someone who is against religion as a global institution, I still think it’d be kinda cringe if you just, like…*told* people to be atheist. They’d never get away with that and have it be believable at all.
@@TerranPersoid725 true but a lot of less nuanced media can portray christianity as bad and harmful. i’ve seen a lot takes that basically go “christian cultures and communities hurt people therefore christianity is bad” but this show makes a distinction that christianity itself isn’t the problem, it’s the people who abuse it.
@@fumothfan9 Yuuka spitting fax
Never made the connection of Clay beating Orel as Clay viewing it as a way of caring for his son. That just makes it so much more messed up. The physical abuse in this show is so real and so hard to stomach
Someone mentioned that during the hunting trip where he struggles to get off his belt due to frustration, it shows that alcohol gets in the way of his messed up way to "express love"
Also the fact that he doesn't bother to beat shapy or his wife. Orel really is the only one he "cares" for in the family...
@@voiceofthelegion578 unless i'm misremembering i think on a few occasions he has briefly hit shapey just to try and shoo him away and shapey just didn't really care. which makes it a little worse because orel clearly is the only one in the house who actually values clay's opinion and cares not to upset him as well.
orel and clay mutually trying to involve themselves to maintain standards for each other's benefit is ironically what makes their relationship the most abusive and neglectful in the family.
great video overall but im a bit surprised that nurse bendy's rape was not analysed or mentionned at all even though it was hinted a lot of times
i think it plays a huge part in how we understand this character
I like to think that it kind of represents the way that rape isn’t always talked about or shown by victims. Most victims of rape remain silent about it and do their best to proceed with a “normal” life and a lot of people never even find out. You can’t look at a person and be like “yup, they’ve been through something” so I think that’s sort of what happens with nurse bendy which is the complete opposite of the school teacher whom’s abuse was publicized and thoroughly talked about.
I can’t believe you didn’t talk about Clay’s monologue
THERES ALWAYS SO MUCH MORE PAPER THAN THERE ARE WEIGHTS.
“If it wasn’t for your beer goggles you’d get some work done”
“HOW DARE YOU!? I don’t drink beer…”
You start off in life as a little baby, with no paperwork, but do we appreciate it all us little babies? no we cry...
"The pain. Of you. Day in, day out, being there. With that face. Not knowing what to say. Not caring anymore. Not even knowing that you'll probably only care about her when it's finally too late. Forgetting about all those desperate- those desperate years you spent alone, your barren years when no woman would even consider resting her tired head on your shaky little shoulder. Stinking of belly semen. Why even wipe?"
"Thats my life! Over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over-"
"Okay Clay, I think we get the point."
" *NO, YOU DON'T!* aaaaaaaaaand over and over and over and over and over and over and over again!"
@@jtlego1 well howdy reverend!
"Coach you like my dad the way my mom likes my dad. Don't you?"
"Your mom likes you dad?"
I'm sorry but that delivery was perfect and encapsulates the way Moral Orel can be both funny and super morose at the same time.
lots of that in Home Movies too.
@@platonicbuu7454 Eh, Home Movies isn't as effed up.
It's a perfect one-two punch of Orel learning about both his coach's relationship with his dad and a confirmation of how broken the relationship between his parents are.
No because I was completely zoned into how heart breaking the video had gotten and how dark it was and that threw me so off guard 😂
That stop motion within stop motion episode... I don't think I ever laughed harder.
Joe is fucking hilarious regardless of his psychopathy. Easily one of my fav characters.
"We need to raise your dead grandfather from the dead"
"Ok"
Funniest was probably either the segregation one or the missing link one
The Joe and Nurse Bendy plot-line legit makes me cry in happy tears, it’s so cathartic to see a HAPPY relationship in this show.
Idk why but “crack is a gateway… to slang” is one of the funniest things I’ve heard in a while
"slang?"
"Yes"
What makes it funnier is that ‘Slang’ is literally slang for ‘short language’. Does that mean Clay’s done crack?
That ending is honestly perfect, despite the amount of shit Orel was put through, he breaks the cycle and has a much happier life than he did as a child
having him become a good father also shows how sick clay was by comparison - trauma doesn't make you a bad person, it makes you hurt. bad people tend to get worse when they are hurt, but being hurt doesn't mean it's inevitable that you'll hurt others.
Also good to know Shapey and his doppelganger seem to have found rewarding jobs in the future too, as evidenced within the photos at the end.
@@bumblerbree Damn bro that strikes deep lol
I wouldn’t mind seeing how Orel broke the cycle in the end. Sad that CN canceled the show in the end.
@@bumblerbree Nah, no one is born evil, we are born blank slates, and it's the environment we grow up in and the people we grow up around that influence us to become the people we are as adults. Clay could have been a good person, but the trauma he went through and how his father treated him after his mother died definitely played a hand in how he turned out. Clay also lacked the self awareness that Orel has, as Orel was able to become more self aware and acknowledge how fucked up everything was. But Orel also had a few people in his life who were genuinely good influences who were able to help him, that Clay did not have.
Trauma definitely doesnt make you a bad person, that's not what im saying at all, but it's how that trauma was handled not just by Clay as an adult, but also by his parents/father after the trauma happened that twisted Clay into what he is now. The way his father treated him shaped many of Clay's integral views on love and how it's shown and reciprocated, which of course affected his relationships with his kids and the other adults around him.
I saw a lot of moral orel in highschool on adult swim . I never saw the episodes in order and never realized how deep it all was . I loved this thanks so much.
Glad you enjoyed it! Definitely recommend the show as well!
It really looks like it's from the same creators of Robot Chicken
Using songs by The Mountain Goats was SUCH a good choice. No Children is just pure vitriol and hatred in song form, every word is acidic. What a great way to show Clay and Bloberta's relationship through song.
I had no idea The Mountain Goats were related to Moral Orel-
They play quite a few of their songs through the series
The Mountain Goats are great
This was the moment I discovered the mountain goats and I've listened to them nearly every day in the 10 years since. The upbeat tempo of the music set against the lyrics about a loveless marriage that is on the way out the window....
Honestly couldn't think of a more fitting song to pop up in this show, but especially for the scene in which it was used
My favourite part is when bloberta tells us why she married clay and it turns out she just gaslit and emotionally manipulated him into marrying her, just after introducing him to alcohol. Portraying her as the instigator rather than the victim
The show did a pretty good job of portraying both Bloberta and Clay as both villain and victim. Bloberta was failing at her societal duty and therefore became manipulative and Machiavellian and a pretty damn neglectful mother, Clay is in an unhappy marriage but chooses to drink and abuse his child and is a deeply violent and abusive person, and eventually almost kills his own son, they’re both completely garbage people who know they’re garbage but don’t actually want to change
The toxic dynamic they share is also the product of a larger vicious cycle. Bloberta wouldn't have sabotaged clay if the local culture didnt place women's value and purpose into being a wife and mother and treat women who were one or neither as less than.
Bloberta was more or less using a toxic version of self preservation to prevent herself from becoming a victim of unjust social isolation. The culture of moralton is eat or be eaten. The only way to live up to expectations and attain social approval is to be selfish and to prey on someone else for your survival /purposes, no matter how understandable or unnecessary they may be.
Selfless people gain nothing but mockery and isolation.
Thats what archaic social expectations push people to become and treat others like. In that sense religion is less relevant on the whole and is used more like a backdrop than as the forefront to every interaction. Though, archaic traditions can only live on if people keep them alive. If the people of moralton thought of people as more important than traditions, then the culture wouldn't have produced individuals who are willing to sacrifice others on an alter of conformity, fear of reprisal, and social acceptance, etc .
A toxic culture normalizes, encourages, and produces toxic individuals, toxic actions, and toxic dynamics. And those things are necessary in order for the toxic culture to survive. Thats why its necessary for orel to break the cycle of toxicity that produced all the wrong he saw growing up in order to not become a victim of the predators or become the predator himself, like many of the townspeople of morelton have, and with his beliefs intact to boot. Thats even in the face of being shot by his alcoholic abusive father. And that takes a lot of strength to do.
Many people in moralton were not able to do it and lives were ruined as a result. Which really testifies to orel's charector and the depths of his beliefs due to ultimately being abel to escape the fate of moralton's residents.
@@emilybarclay8831to add clay was spoiled by his mom and she died in a prank. Then his dad constantly hit him and he took that as love until one day he pushed him too far. The dad snapped and realized the opp of love isnt hate but indifference. Hence he left him alone. No more hitting nor anything.
In a weird way Clay hitting Orel was his messed up way of showing love.
And
Not a stretch to say he didn't want to show love because he equated loving too much with dying.
One thing I'd like to mention is that after the show ended, Dino and the crew went outside the Adult Swim HQ to burn every puppet and prop until they were escorted off by the police. Leaving Orel and Putty as the only surviving puppets of the show, this might also include Mrs. Censordoll and that Bigfoot character from "Genuisis"also survived. There could be 2 Censordoll puppets as I found 2 on worthpoint (Also including Rev. Putty)
Reverend Putty was, however, sold to an anime enthusiast where he remains in a cabinet next to a big tiddy anime girl, and Orel stayed with dino.
Did you get this off Reddit?
@@PLASTIPON I think so
oh good for rev
Putty finally got the woman he’d been praying for.
Symbolic in a way tbh
Honestly, as a trans woman I actually really enjoy Ms. Secondopinionson's voice. I actually find it really nice that despite having a voice that's not coded as feminine, her family just accepts her as a woman without question. And I honestly think the phonecall voice gag is cute and even kinda relatable. In certain social situations I find myself pitching up my voice too.
And yeah, I can definitely see how Miss Secondopinionson's "masculine" voice and the phonecall bit can read as kind of tone deaf, especially by today's standards. But at the same time, she's still a well developed character who's a kind, nurturing soul to her little brother, and aside from Stephanie is one of the VERY few adults in Moralton who could be considered well adjusted. If she's canonically trans, she's one of the very few examples of trans representation in mainstream media that's done with any sort of taste and not as a punching bag.
As a cis gay male I most likely cannot relate to your struggle at all, but I always found it insulting to trans people when others will disparage deep voiced trans characters. I can't imagine how painful it must be to be a trans women with a deep voice, and every time you get a smidge of representation in anything, everyone is calling it "insensitive" and "hurtful" to potray trans people like that. That your deep voice is nothing more than an offensive joke, and that your existence as a trans person is invalid because you're not feminine enough.
Maybe I'm completely off base here, but that's how I see it from the perspective on an outsider looking in.
I'm trans and honestly I was more bothered by the reaction of the video essay then the joke itself. It's real. It's a struggle. Everyone in the show is facing real problems and issues, sometimes comedic and sometimes very much not. Stuff like that shouldn't be off limits imo, and seeing a trans girl be 'right' in every way except their voice feels more humanizing and empathetic then making a trans character with no struggles to pass or appear feminine.
Fr, I loved her voice it was just so iconic for me and memorable.
Honestly as a trans femme, kinda envious of it
As a woman, you're not a real woman
One thing I'm surprsed this great analysis didn't mention is how Clay's puppet in Orel's movie is meant to resemble a wolf and grows to have a more mortifying appearance as it progresses, resembling how we as the audience become more apparent of his "true nature" over time. Also the blue bird that followed Orel throughout the Nature episodes.
This is a great catch. I didn't even notice that!
i think the blue bird is actually a crane! cranes are seen as a bad omen in some cultures essentially meaning be careful and death/destruction are ahead.. so its awfully ominous and awfully accurate for the ‘nature’ episodes
I think Orel is repressing in that episode. Clay is onviously a wolf,.vut he calls him a puppy who.is.good
As a kid who grew up in a militant Christian environment this show was almost too real for me. One of the saddest parts is orel looking up at the sky saying I have faith in you and waiting for nothing
I really couldn't sit through this show when I was a kid, or even a teenager. Too real, too much trauma. Watching even this was difficult, and it took me a few days to finish it. I totally get this. Especially, like, I don't know if anyone else went through this post-9/11, but my entire family changed, so this show was such a gruesome reminder of that.
@@nempne kids today will never know. Even in the 90s going to church was almost compulsory. Everyone I knew made sure they were seen in church, or else face intense judgement.
Right there with you guys. It hits so close to home (bad 'church' mindset, alcoholism) that it was a painful watch for me at first but in the end it made me feel better knowing that a lot of people felt like I did, and that you can choose to put that stuff behind you.
Most of the men in my family were a part of the military, including my dad, and while I grew up in the early 2010s rather than the 90s, the Christian-conservative environment was still going strong and I didn’t know much life outside of it for years. Moral Orel is really comforting to me in that I relate to so much.
I related to this show... alot
It made me call a mental health hotline after finishing season 3
Love this video but something that doesn’t sit right with me is not addressing nurse Bendys trauma as it really is. She was raped as a child by dr secondopinionson and never allowed to see joe after his birth. She was thrown out basically by him and most likely by her parents before that. Her acting like a child at home isn’t her just enjoying acting young but heavily implied that it’s regression as a way for her to deal with the trauma of being raped by a man who cared for her but also only ever seen as the town harlot.
This is (basically) what I was trying to say, but probably didn't articulate well.
I think they probably would've gotten a chance to explore it if they hadn't gotten cancelled
@@otakucouture They would've I think that's part of why they got canceled, I really wanted to see how they'd have handled the women's traumas
@@otakucouture pnk
He raped Bendy then avoided prison by becoming a transsexual. Kind of like Bruce Jenner.
I love how the preacher has a "I hate my boss" mug 8:45
"When you're 'normal'... you have the luxury of not being pleasant."
omg this is a truth that hits like a truck.
You misspelled freight train 😂👌
@@donovanulrich348 and you just misspelled meteorite
The best part about the camping trip is when clay struggles to take his belt off to spank oral, it shows how his drinking suffocates his ability to love even in his own vindictive way
That’s an amazing observation thank you
My favorite part of this show is a really engaging narrative about deconstructing religion while still examining the importance of faith. Imo i think it actually embraces the lessons of christianity in a world of structural inequality and institutional corruption. It somehow acknowledges hypocrisy within the church without demeaning the beliefs it was founded on, and in a way that doesnt treat its audience like they are too dumb to understand the difference or too cynical to appreciate the nuance. Also every person i have showed this show to has hated it lol
Well said!
Yes! I love that in the end, Orel still believes in god. Faith is not wrong, but the misuse of it is
The first sentence is everything I wanted to say but couldn’t find the words. I completely agree with everything
@@sandiegoretcon1292 Exactly!
as a christian always seeking out actually good christian movies and shows, these kinds are always the absolute best, it's not making fun of the actual religion, but, as you finally said, deconstructs the constructs of it all, and sends out an actual message.
Blobertas line at the end of Season Two ("He doesn't change, Orel. That's just his true nature coming out") has... legitimately horrifying implications for Clay as a person. That the things he does when he's drunk are things he wanted to do anyway? Horrifying.
i’m pretty sure the very essence of alone isn’t just that they’re all women that weren’t wed so they were cast aside. its that all these women have had their bodily autonomy taken away from them and how that plays into the every day problems they face. how they are seen as less than human and the tolls that takes on them. leading them to over correct and use extreme coping mechanisms.
I agree. In fact, I agree so much that I said so in the video. 😅
They're adults. They have autonomy, even in that ridiculous town. The nurse was able to find her purpose, and so did the librarian, in a sick way.
@@user-fe8gx3ie5v they have autonomy in others ways but over their body it has been stripped from them. Nurse was raped as a child and has incredibly morally wrong relations as an adult with people with power over her. The teacher was raped. Rape quite literally is violating someone’s bodily autonomy. The old woman was forcibly sterilized.All of these show a lack of control over what has happened or is happening to their body.
@@sienna6580 Yes, but she's been working on overcoming it. That particular section of the video was implying they had none. Even with lingering mental issues, they are still able to function well enough to work and survive, even if their private lives are a mess.
@@user-fe8gx3ie5v That's the point. It's delving into the private part of the lives of women who have been violated in that way, showcasing the pain and coping mechanisms that women who either can't afford or don't want therapy use. Them being functioning adults is the cover for the pain they all feel having had their autonomy violated. They're not okay, despite how they present themselves in public. Most rape survivors are like this. That's most likely what the show was trying to convey
Clay might be a bastard but its really no wonder. He experienced very intense trauma at a young age with it later manifesting as a sexual kink as an adult. That and his father, quite literally gave up on him, causing him to interpret abuse/neglect as affection.
This show is a psych majors wet dream
As a psych major, don’t kink shame me. 😂
The writers did have plans for both Florence and Officer Papermouth. Florence was supposed to lose some weight and become more attractive and still flirts with Rev Putty. Putty at first wouldn’t be interested but eventually she wins him over and they develop a loving relationship. Bloberta would eventually start an affair with Papermouth and she would be genuinely happy for once. Miss Censordoll and Clay were to start having affair together and she secretly manipulates Clay in how Moralton is being run and eventually takes control. Censordoll essentially becomes the puppet master of the Town.
Having just watched Midnight Mass I can't help but draw a character line from Ms. Censordoll and Beverly Keene, especially if these were the plans they had for her character.
The kind of show you wish had a longer run but don’t feel too beat up about it. Truly a masterpiece.
The line "Oh he doesn't change that's just his true nature showing up" is so interesting to me. We see later that she encourages Clay to drink bc her father drinks, and that she does think it's the only way to be authentic. She even says this line with endearment. And yet, you can see how if the tone had been different, if there had been any comfort after it, it could be seen as what it sounds like to oral, almost a warning or a threat. It is a very clever and relatable line. So easy to take out of context or tone and all of the interpretation are correct
As someone who saw the series premiere back in 2005, I honestly thought it was just a one off Adult Swim Christmas short. The network was chaotic like that. So when I found out it was a series and watched it, It didn't take the enjoyment out. This series played at 1 or 2 am so you are in a twilight stage of being either half awake or under the influence of something. So the out of order airing was the vibe.
Fun fact: The term for the state between awake and asleep is called Hypnogogic. Pointless fact I just wanted to tell you about the twilight state you mentioned.
@@ScurvySeamate homies dropping cool knowledge on us! cant wait to randomly bring up this in some random convos
@@ScurvySeamate and that made me remember the hypnogogic archives
@@abnormal9613 SAME HERE!
@@kerosan138 Ill sue you okay?
I actually think this show could be remade or continued again today with how everything is in this world now compared to way back when
I think that's part of the reason behind its resurgent popularity. It speaks so strongly to the state of America today
@@Meromorphic and the rest of the world
Agreed,however the creator has stated theres no intent on carrying on the story. It's a shame but at least we still have what we've got
bruh, things have been the same since the show came out.
43:10 I'm going off the context in this video, but this dialogue is actually kinda brilliant, as I'm assuming he's describing both his relationship to his wife and alcoholism in a double meaning, two things he believes should cater to him but also harm him, but only because of his own toxicity. if that makes sense
Can I just say I feel like there’s untapped analytical potential in the fact that when Orel covers his mouth after using the “wrong” prayer, Christine immediately uses her jacket to cover her already covered body and says “don’t look at me like that”.
Yes. That was amazing. Even though I didn't process it with full understanding, somehow you just got how perfect and funny it was.
That scene is beautiful. It’s made like they’re discovering sex, but they’re literally just praying
Oh crap is stereotypes about Muslim women
That part broke my heart
The finale really shows how much strength Orel really had. His life was miserable. But he eventually had a family that loved actually loved him. Definitely one of my favorite series finales I’ve seen. And I’m honestly glad it ended when it did. Before outsiders tried to mold it and change it into something it wasn’t. And it’s one of the show I hope never gets revived. Better to go out on a high
Moral Orel is alongside Bojack horseman as one of those shows where I tell people, "it's one of the best written, most unique shows I've ever seen. Never watch it. it will depress you
I once read a comment on another RUclips video that was pretty close to this: "Moral Orel walked so BoJack Horseman could run". It sounds like both shows are quite often compared to one another.
I don’t know how or why, but this video has accidentally become my comfort video. I’ve seen it a million times, and I’ll watch it a million more. Great job.
Season 3 is twisted. The reveals of Clay and Bloberta’s pasts made these comedically over the top neglectful and nasty people much more realistic. It’s scary and depressing because it makes them completely believable.
i’m sobbing over the gay people they were so cute “you’re nice 😘” “you’re nice 😘”
Right? My wife and I quote this to each other all the time. In fact I made some shirts celelbrating them. meromorphic.store
I knowwww 😭 and the fact Orel saw nothing wrong with them and just accepted them before Joe started being a dick
It was annoying as hell
@@mdtisthebest6249 ok
@@mdtisthebest6249 no bitches ? 🥺
If I may offer an alternative interpretation of the Figurelli segregation episode....
I think it speaks to the show's themes of how moral rigidity coupled with religious fundamentalism cause undue suffering even onto the ones who propagate it.
The town was so willing to segregate the one minority family in town to appeal to some sense of traditionalist order that it inadvertently ends up backfiring by allowing the Figurellis to receive additional privileges in the town, while peoples' resentment of them continued to grow. People began to hate them for their perceived privileges, but it was the people who hated them that allowed those privileges to take root in the first place. Despite the town people suffering from the segregation they all collectively imposed on their minority population, they continue to do it and then act like it's the fault of the one family they're excluding. They are causing their own suffering by being segregationist bigots when they don't have to be.
That sounds a lot like how christians made Jews only allowed to have jobs that handled in money, and then blaming them for controlling the banks
Ong true!
Gotta love dramatic irony
‘Don’t be racist or you’ll suffer’ isn’t the take
Sort of like how Christians said Jews could only do the "dirty" jobs like moneylending and later finance (Goldman-Sachs practically inventing modern finance), and later other "dishonest" jobs like acting/entertainment (before movies really caught on, actors were viewed as trash; even Shakespeare's Globe Theatre was located in the red-light district), then whining about those fields having so many Jews.
33:54 That was smooth as hell man, good job scripting that!
This show does a wonderful job of portraying a innocent child’s perception of his terrible life slowly turning into the realization of what’s actually happening
Lol I worked on this show so many years ago. It's fun to look back and remember it, it's been a while since I've not really seen it since I worked on it.
That's so freaking cool! If you don't mind me asking, what was your role?
@@Meromorphic Yeah I was an effects artist on it.
@@conveniencestorediet well my hat off to you guys. The art was fantastic. I'm glad you got some enjoyment from my little vid.
That's awesome
@@conveniencestorediet This show deserved more seasons!!!
"You can't compare you and her to Orel and his little Orelet."
"Why cause were two girls and tolerance is only a pretend theme?"
"No, because she never cared about you."
DAMN, talk about a curve ball, never expected that dialogue.
42:24 Clay is not the worst character in the show. Maybe the worst person, but he’s definitely the most well written, which makes him the best character in the show.
There's a difference between "worst character" as in worst written and the most hatable. He is the most morally rerprehensible character in the show, therefore he is the worst character. Like how you would call someone you don't like "The worst" in real life.
You can see the distinction very obviously in the Breaking Bad fandom. Skylar is far from the worst written character in the show, but that didn't stop people from hating her so much they sent her actress death and rape threats.
As a Christian myself, I appreciate this show’s existence because it tackled a topic that I myself have issues with. People misinterpreting the Bible for their own personal gain, and combining it with their own values.
Tbh it's a special type of art for everyone since most of the population is Christianity. I'm both christian and catholic and ngl this is a very special type of show that shows the deep dark side of religious folk Because it is a huge yikes. Since most church are like "beer is bad" "luxury clothes is a sin" "not giving donations to the church (aka money) is a sin" etc etc.
The deeper it goes, the dark it is ya know.
@@Nyax50Lopez I don't think this shows the "darker side" of religion or church in general, as it's not really the church's fault. Some sick, messed up people just choose to use people faith in God for their own personal gain(be it financial or something else). Hopefully the church's you've went to repent and change their ways.
This show is evil and propaganda for satan. If you do not see that you have no connection with God.
@@sol-gs2ny It's a very dangerous game to ignore that religion might have (and in fact, definitely does have) a darker side.
The dog calling himself “jesus” and showing unconditional love is supposed to rrepresent, Jesus Christ and his unconditional love for every man and woman who lives by dying for them and accepting them unconditionally despite their sins, the truth and core message message of Christianity .
If you look very closely at the pictures on the wall, you'll see a red haired fireman and a blonde policeman. Had the series not been canceled prematurely, there was going to be an episode focused on Shapey and Block, showing them both becoming a little better as they begin to bond and care for each other, and in those photos, you see despite their childhood, they grew up to be good adults
That dejected look in orel's eyes after the end of the camping trip never left my mind, even after years after I seen that episode. They show death, even while the poor boy keeps breathing
I remember seeing a few episodes on TV back in the day and I wanted to show my sister because i thought she'd find it funny but when we watched it was part two of Nature and we both sat there uncomfortable as hell at what was happening until my sister finally said "this is just depressing"