@Drasgum As for someone that doesn't own a Darkglass pedal yet, what do you want then? Just curious. Am I missing out on something if I decided to own one of these then?
@@CharlesNotBronson I think it's more about the stereotypes that go with darkglass where it just has that obnoxious nolly tone . I have played their pedals before and found them lacking fine controls. I wish the eq controls were much more parametric. I also miss the attack and grunt switches. Tbh the distortion character is kinda an afterthought for me. Like it's meant to be blended I know but it just doesn't sound good on its own like an old school bass amp distortion. It just sounds like hair on top of the basses on higher drive settings. I myself like alot of low mid frequency in my bass but for the right frequencies you really want the eq to be parametric so you can finely dial it in. The darkglass eq controls are kinda generic imo.
Cant agree)) adam -ish models of pedal are realy cool stuff but people used to love sound of their old models . Now i have microtubes x7, i like their new adam and foton, but i also waited their new stuff based exactly on microtobes sounds, not only alpha - omega like foton, ot other sounds at all, like adam. This thing should be happend))
I have an X Ultra in the FX loop of an HX Stomp and that's an infinite amount of awesomeness right there. This pedal would potentially be even better, but there's no way I could justify the upgrade. It could still do all the same things. Use the darkglass as the heart and the Stomp for compression, additional EQ tweaks, tuning and the odd effect. What more could you ever need?
Maybe one solution could be a software upgrade to have the possibility to reroute one of the balanced outputs to be used as FX loop using a "Y" cable like the loops on the EBS Billy Sheehan drive.
I'm an intermediate bass player who just ordered this pedal over the new Ampeg SGT-DI. I can instantly recognize this pedal has WAY more options than I will know how to utilize. With that being said, and regardless of whether or not I'm taking a lesson, I get frustrated and play less when I can't dial in that awesome bass tone I hear on my favorite albums. I can hear a close representation of them all on the preset sounds the Infinity has to offer. I currently own the Vintage Deluxe v3 and Alpha Omicron pedals. I expect this will replace both of them, but maybe not. I'm not a professional player who has a gig every weekend and never will be. We'll see what happens.
I agree with the closing statement. There's nothing wrong with putting the pedals we all know and love into a convenient package, but it would be cool to see some new pedals brought to life physically like the M***F*** filter and the Chinchilla drive. On the same hand, I'd love to see the X7, harmonic booster and maybe an octaver on the E500 at some point (and some news about an exponet specific midi pedal 🤔).
I think this is the pedal I was waiting for. The Microtubes family is the focus of my heavy tone and this pedal allows me to replace the 4 pedals I know use. Thanks for the review, Patrick.
It honestly seems like a step-back from the Photon I bought earlier this year. Like, am I crazy, or is the Infinity almost the same pedal with some minor tweaks?
You figured it out... that's how they up sell their products. Start with something simple then add some stuff to it, then add some software-based modifications (which isn't expensive since they already have all the software from previous pedals).. that's the way to milk a cash-cow. I'm getting **** tired of this strategy. I'm very happy with the small Alpha Omicron pedal and was looking at ADAM when it first came out.. but still it's not flexible enough.. no send and return to hook into other pedals into the signal path. I guess that's what could be coming at some day. There's no real innovation now..
They don't have anything like this based on the Vintage Ultra, right? That would be what I want. As a non-metal guy, the Vintage Ultra is by far my favorite pedal of theirs. But I would love to see it expanded to have more functionality like this.
so the "vintage microtubes" side of this is the same gain circuit tone as the vintage deluxe. While the b3k is akin to the b7k and so forth, if I'm not mistaken. So you should have the option for both.
What I think is for over $600 it better be perfect… I would like to try it out but honestly my rig sounds amazing with just my compressor and ultra X… I just don’t think it can top it
I dont really get this product. Like you said, the exponent 500 was a step forward. Its still on my wishlist. But since release there isnt much talked about. The expression pedal / foot switch which kinda should come still isnt there. I love Darkglass but there whole product strategy is kinda confusing.
Awesome as always! I really love blending my DG pedals and I tend to layer my X7 with my b7k. So I’m not sure this one’s fir me if I can only use one circuit at a time
In the infinity there's no X preamp, because the x preamp is basically the b7k paralleled with compression, so, you could buy the infinity and either keep the b7k or the X7
@@rockereivanivan I like you, you’re an enabler 😂 my board does already have the ADAM and the photon and the design does look super sleek together. A third one would be 👌
Awesome demo, Patrick! 😎🤘🏻🎸 I personally like this preamp and I’m really intrigued by the vintage microtubes settings. Especially since I’m a huge fan of the vintage series from darkglass. I would definitely consider buying the darkglass infinity if I ever needed a new preamp pedal.
I bought an Alpha Omicron and a Hyper Luminal a few years back and it has done me well, so why do I always feel like the money is dropping out of my wallet when I watch these videos.
I'm struggling to translate settings from the darkglass B7U to the Infinity. I know that the infinity is based on the B3K and not the B7U, but I feel like I can't even get close to the tone I dialed in on the B7U...
I just picked one of these. Admittedly I have only played with it for a few minutes, but I cant seem to get drive to do anything at all. All of the presets are basically clean, and adding drive does nothing.
And what do i do with my ADAM? It haven't even arrive yet! I've ordered it because there haven't been any options to buy photon-esque pedal with microtubes x circuits! Baaaah! :'D
@@philipp_eotr I've bought it last week, shipment was said to take at least about 1.5 months, so I'm kinda stuck here in Darkglass-less Limbo of Waiting for Great-but-not-the-pedal-that-i-dreamed-of. I know ADAM is still worth the wait, but " Darkglass infinity™ " definitely gotten me by surprise with its release.
I got the Microtubes Infinity but I’m trying to get that Muse - Hysteria kinda fuzz sound, can that be achieved? Or can I just add like a fuzz before the Infinity as a Fuzz > Microtubes Infinity? Seems like the signal chain seems to be all self contained and no loop to add say a chorus or octave, or am I misunderstanding it?
Thanks for the review! As you said, there’s a steep learning curve. Have you found any resources to help in better understanding the pedal, as the manual is extremely brief? Got my Infinity yesterday, and I’m definitely overwhelmed.
My only complaint is that they didn't release this one at the same time as the Alpha Omega Photon. I got the Photon and it's tremendous. But I probably would have gotten this one instead if it was available at the time.
@@8Junio76 There's no chance I'd buy both. And it's hard for me to imagine the need for both. But with some tweaking, I think I've gotten the AOP to sound the way I'd want an MTI to sound anyway. :) There's definitely a learning curve for these because they have so many options.
Never change a winning team. If darkglass use the same housing over and over, the production cost lower and the infinity is cheaper than the other pedals. Cheaper on production. Not in sales. :-) Same with Katie Perry song progressions.
@@wolfram4321 Agree. That's true from their point of view. But for me as a potential buyer, that's boring) also checked their prices on thomann.. 600+ doesn't worth it for me personally. Still a good product though.
darkglass is saying in some parts the infinity supposedly also has the X circuit as well but there is no mention of this in manual and the fact you dont mention it either (and i know your review vids well you cover everything) only confirms what i thought there is no X circuit like they were claiming. despite the above i still think it sounds like a really great pedal from darkglass and im indeed thinking of buying. thanks for the great reviews pat!!
@@ileutur6863 perhaps... i went and purchased a microtubes X and got the infinity. i have stacked the infinity on some stuff with the X and WOW!!! FN SICK MAN!!! regardless the infinity is still badass
First of, thank you so much for this informative video. Can you please tell me how you would combine the microtubes infinity with other pedals? Would you put a flanger, chorus or octaver in front of the microtubes infinity?
Thank you for bringing up criticism. Good thing this "how often can we sell you the same thing over and over" is not more widespread. Or Line6 would bring out a separate new Helix for every new amp model. Jesus Christ.
Hey Patrick, just curious, do you run or mix your signals differently then compared to a few years ago? Just seems like I could hardly hear the dirty side of this, even when the pedals blend was set on the higher side. No judgement or putdown, just curiosity.
To be honest, I was expecting a bit more in this video. I know you could try it and show more of its qualities, not the similarities with the other two pedals in that range
It is a sponsored video and you are an endorser. So nobody expects a neutral opinion. So be honest about and don’t try to make excuses. Let us just watch as an advertisement and enjoy your playing.
Im numb... Just put all the DG pedals in one box. Like HX stomp.. I wanna be positive it looks like they just keep crappin out new-er-ish pedals that have "SUPER COOL NEW FEATURES" , which are rehashed pedals combined together. Oh, plus IRs.. Ok. Im Oprah... You get a mooer ge200 , YOU get a mooer ge200... Im cheap, i use it, i like it.. Props for saying what i was thinking. They need to move on and start making bigger steps than this...
Love the constructive criticism! We definitely need more of that in general when reviewing gear
God I hate bass
Another great video with awesome playing. I like your honesty with calling out darkglass to do more.
Dont get me wrong but i am a little bored with darkglass doing the same thing in different ways over and over, they really need something new.
I wouldnt say they need it when their business model clearly is very successful.
@Drasgum As for someone that doesn't own a Darkglass pedal yet, what do you want then? Just curious. Am I missing out on something if I decided to own one of these then?
@@CharlesNotBronson I think it's more about the stereotypes that go with darkglass where it just has that obnoxious nolly tone . I have played their pedals before and found them lacking fine controls. I wish the eq controls were much more parametric. I also miss the attack and grunt switches. Tbh the distortion character is kinda an afterthought for me. Like it's meant to be blended I know but it just doesn't sound good on its own like an old school bass amp distortion. It just sounds like hair on top of the basses on higher drive settings. I myself like alot of low mid frequency in my bass but for the right frequencies you really want the eq to be parametric so you can finely dial it in. The darkglass eq controls are kinda generic imo.
Cant agree)) adam -ish models of pedal are realy cool stuff but people used to love sound of their old models . Now i have microtubes x7, i like their new adam and foton, but i also waited their new stuff based exactly on microtobes sounds, not only alpha - omega like foton, ot other sounds at all, like adam. This thing should be happend))
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This and an HX Stomp with an expression pedal and midi mouse might be what I use for my studio rig from now on. This is beautiful
I have an X Ultra in the FX loop of an HX Stomp and that's an infinite amount of awesomeness right there. This pedal would potentially be even better, but there's no way I could justify the upgrade. It could still do all the same things. Use the darkglass as the heart and the Stomp for compression, additional EQ tweaks, tuning and the odd effect. What more could you ever need?
totally agree on the effects loop! it would be a great addition to the line
Maybe one solution could be a software upgrade to have the possibility to reroute one of the balanced outputs to be used as FX loop using a "Y" cable like the loops on the EBS Billy Sheehan drive.
I'm an intermediate bass player who just ordered this pedal over the new Ampeg SGT-DI. I can instantly recognize this pedal has WAY more options than I will know how to utilize. With that being said, and regardless of whether or not I'm taking a lesson, I get frustrated and play less when I can't dial in that awesome bass tone I hear on my favorite albums. I can hear a close representation of them all on the preset sounds the Infinity has to offer. I currently own the Vintage Deluxe v3 and Alpha Omicron pedals. I expect this will replace both of them, but maybe not. I'm not a professional player who has a gig every weekend and never will be. We'll see what happens.
I agree with the closing statement. There's nothing wrong with putting the pedals we all know and love into a convenient package, but it would be cool to see some new pedals brought to life physically like the M***F*** filter and the Chinchilla drive.
On the same hand, I'd love to see the X7, harmonic booster and maybe an octaver on the E500 at some point (and some news about an exponet specific midi pedal 🤔).
I’ve had mine for about a year and I still have a lot to learn about this pedal
I think this is the pedal I was waiting for. The Microtubes family is the focus of my heavy tone and this pedal allows me to replace the 4 pedals I know use. Thanks for the review, Patrick.
It honestly seems like a step-back from the Photon I bought earlier this year. Like, am I crazy, or is the Infinity almost the same pedal with some minor tweaks?
I just got the Photon and this is basically a copy of that but just with the X thing instead of AO
You figured it out... that's how they up sell their products. Start with something simple then add some stuff to it, then add some software-based modifications (which isn't expensive since they already have all the software from previous pedals).. that's the way to milk a cash-cow. I'm getting **** tired of this strategy. I'm very happy with the small Alpha Omicron pedal and was looking at ADAM when it first came out.. but still it's not flexible enough.. no send and return to hook into other pedals into the signal path. I guess that's what could be coming at some day. There's no real innovation now..
They don't have anything like this based on the Vintage Ultra, right? That would be what I want. As a non-metal guy, the Vintage Ultra is by far my favorite pedal of theirs. But I would love to see it expanded to have more functionality like this.
so the "vintage microtubes" side of this is the same gain circuit tone as the vintage deluxe. While the b3k is akin to the b7k and so forth, if I'm not mistaken. So you should have the option for both.
Would love to see you review the zoom b6!
I need this NOW
Parallel processing, three different drives, artist presets, 🤘
What I think is for over $600 it better be perfect… I would like to try it out but honestly my rig sounds amazing with just my compressor and ultra X… I just don’t think it can top it
Hi Patrick,
Does Microtubues Infinity has hi pass and low pass options like on Microtubes X7? Those were really important to me.
what be difference between this and the X series
Also having the B3k and VMT distortions, and the new "vintage x" kind of thing. It's all in a single box
I dont really get this product. Like you said, the exponent 500 was a step forward. Its still on my wishlist. But since release there isnt much talked about. The expression pedal / foot switch which kinda should come still isnt there. I love Darkglass but there whole product strategy is kinda confusing.
Fancy showing us what clean bass sounds through this? Unpopular opinion, Not a fan of driven bass, love a really clear, clean tone.
Awesome as always! I really love blending my DG pedals and I tend to layer my X7 with my b7k. So I’m not sure this one’s fir me if I can only use one circuit at a time
In the infinity there's no X preamp, because the x preamp is basically the b7k paralleled with compression, so, you could buy the infinity and either keep the b7k or the X7
@@rockereivanivan I like you, you’re an enabler 😂 my board does already have the ADAM and the photon and the design does look super sleek together. A third one would be 👌
Is there another show me what you bass in the works or nah
When is the next show me what you bass? Miss that series!
Yay! 😀😀😀😀 I was SOOOOO hoping they would do this version. Nice job Patrick as usual! - Brent, VT
Awesome demo, Patrick! 😎🤘🏻🎸 I personally like this preamp and I’m really intrigued by the vintage microtubes settings. Especially since I’m a huge fan of the vintage series from darkglass. I would definitely consider buying the darkglass infinity if I ever needed a new preamp pedal.
What do the last 2 multi band settings do?
Where I put the FX like delay and reverb??? After Cab??? 🤔🤔🤔 and the FX post Drive??? Before the comp? 🤔🤔🤔
This is a preamp first and foremost, so it probably goes before anything else on your board.
I bought an Alpha Omicron and a Hyper Luminal a few years back and it has done me well, so why do I always feel like the money is dropping out of my wallet when I watch these videos.
I'm struggling to translate settings from the darkglass B7U to the Infinity. I know that the infinity is based on the B3K and not the B7U, but I feel like I can't even get close to the tone I dialed in on the B7U...
yep, another identical pedal, great job Darkglass
Question Patrick: I have the Alpha Omega Photon. Should I get this?
I just picked one of these. Admittedly I have only played with it for a few minutes, but I cant seem to get drive to do anything at all. All of the presets are basically clean, and adding drive does nothing.
What do i do with my photon now? 😂
And what do i do with my ADAM?
It haven't even arrive yet! I've ordered it because there haven't been any options to buy photon-esque pedal with microtubes x circuits!
Baaaah! :'D
@@КрутойНекит-ч4е oh no! When did you buy it. Does delivery take so long? 😅
@@philipp_eotr I've bought it last week, shipment was said to take at least about 1.5 months, so I'm kinda stuck here in Darkglass-less Limbo of Waiting for Great-but-not-the-pedal-that-i-dreamed-of.
I know ADAM is still worth the wait, but " Darkglass infinity™ " definitely gotten me by surprise with its release.
@@КрутойНекит-ч4е Could you maybe either return it to the shop or sell it as new?
Finally!! This is the pedal I've been waiting since the ADAM was released.
I'M BUYING ONE FROM SWEET WATER TOMORROW...
I got the Microtubes Infinity but I’m trying to get that Muse - Hysteria kinda fuzz sound, can that be achieved? Or can I just add like a fuzz before the Infinity as a Fuzz > Microtubes Infinity? Seems like the signal chain seems to be all self contained and no loop to add say a chorus or octave, or am I misunderstanding it?
Thanks for the review!
As you said, there’s a steep learning curve. Have you found any resources to help in better understanding the pedal, as the manual is extremely brief? Got my Infinity yesterday, and I’m definitely overwhelmed.
According to the settings you are using in this video, the Infinity doesn't provide a high gain tone, right?
Never rely on just one review. ruclips.net/video/MHAfp7cpWTU/видео.html
Can I get Alpha Omega tones with this? I just “discovered” Karnivool
My only complaint is that they didn't release this one at the same time as the Alpha Omega Photon. I got the Photon and it's tremendous. But I probably would have gotten this one instead if it was available at the time.
That’s why they were not released at the same time, so you have to buy both.
@@8Junio76 There's no chance I'd buy both. And it's hard for me to imagine the need for both. But with some tweaking, I think I've gotten the AOP to sound the way I'd want an MTI to sound anyway. :) There's definitely a learning curve for these because they have so many options.
that opening riff... i need the tabs.....
Great product but kind of boring that they release pretty much the same things over and over again
Never change a winning team. If darkglass use the same housing over and over, the production cost lower and the infinity is cheaper than the other pedals. Cheaper on production. Not in sales. :-) Same with Katie Perry song progressions.
@@wolfram4321 Agree. That's true from their point of view. But for me as a potential buyer, that's boring) also checked their prices on thomann.. 600+ doesn't worth it for me personally. Still a good product though.
darkglass is saying in some parts the infinity supposedly also has the X circuit as well but there is no mention of this in manual and the fact you dont mention it either (and i know your review vids well you cover everything) only confirms what i thought there is no X circuit like they were claiming. despite the above i still think it sounds like a really great pedal from darkglass and im indeed thinking of buying. thanks for the great reviews pat!!
From what I understand the X circuit is not a separate drive. Its just the B3k with compression and parallel distortion
@@ileutur6863 perhaps... i went and purchased a microtubes X and got the infinity. i have stacked the infinity on some stuff with the X and WOW!!! FN SICK MAN!!! regardless the infinity is still badass
First of, thank you so much for this informative video.
Can you please tell me how you would combine the microtubes infinity with other pedals? Would you put a flanger, chorus or octaver in front of the microtubes infinity?
I love that maroon T-40.
Thank you for bringing up criticism.
Good thing this "how often can we sell you the same thing over and over" is not more widespread. Or Line6 would bring out a separate new Helix for every new amp model. Jesus Christ.
Nice
Hey Patrick, just curious, do you run or mix your signals differently then compared to a few years ago? Just seems like I could hardly hear the dirty side of this, even when the pedals blend was set on the higher side. No judgement or putdown, just curiosity.
Well Patrick, it's official, you've got a spammer.
Am I the only one that gets annoyed that I have to provide my own power cord for a $600 electrical product?
For some people it might be extra and just end up in the back of one's closet, next to your unused SATA-cables from 2009. :D iPhone does the same.
I’ve been commenting in darkglass videos/forums for years asking them to add an fx loop. But they don’t give a damn. Lmao. Is all good Though.
lol where is the X they talk about in that ??
Distortions mode 4 and 5 are the b3k and vmt circuits with a crossover split engaged, I think
@@codyhansonbass yes, it work like the X, but i don't think it is the X drive lol. I never get the same disorded tone with a B7k compare to a X
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New sub here! Thanks to this preview
NUB or noob?
@@jw112mail New sub kkkk 😂
How come no hair on your head?
People need to start using Spectors, Dingwalls, etc. No Darkglass users play these fender crap slabs....
To be honest, I was expecting a bit more in this video. I know you could try it and show more of its qualities, not the similarities with the other two pedals in that range
All sounds like stuff you can achieve with plugins so, unless you need this on stage live...
It is a sponsored video and you are an endorser. So nobody expects a neutral opinion. So be honest about and don’t try to make excuses. Let us just watch as an advertisement and enjoy your playing.
touchscreen sliders? no thanks. That's just a failure point for a live gigging pedal.
I feel like this just replaced my pedalboard.
Hi Patrick. Would you know? if you cycle through the pre loaded presets that the volume is balanced between them all? Many thanks Paul
Im numb...
Just put all the DG pedals in one box. Like HX stomp..
I wanna be positive it looks like they just keep crappin out new-er-ish pedals that have "SUPER COOL NEW FEATURES" , which are rehashed pedals combined together. Oh, plus IRs..
Ok. Im Oprah...
You get a mooer ge200 , YOU get a mooer ge200...
Im cheap, i use it, i like it..
Props for saying what i was thinking. They need to move on and start making bigger steps than this...