Building an UHPC Metal Lathe Part #4 - Casting and Unboxing...

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  • @bossofthemoss
    @bossofthemoss 3 года назад +4

    Nice. I've been wanting to build a large lathe out of concrete also. Your bed looks better and seems like a better design than others Ive seen. I appreciate your holes in the middle for letting the swarf fall through. I'm looking forward to seeing the completed machine.

  • @ContractCAD
    @ContractCAD 3 года назад +2

    That's some confidence in the strength of your wooden table :)
    Great job. Until I saw this I was dead set on resin concrete, now I'm reconsidering (again!)

    • @CHIPLOAD
      @CHIPLOAD  3 года назад +2

      I did a couple of smaller tests with resin when i filled my aluminium extrusions on the cnc machine i'm building. too much hassle IMHO mixing and also not really cheap in the amount i needed it. To me the biggest benefit about the UHPC is that it's an industry standardized component with an exact recipe to follow (and if you do so it's amazing stuff) which i got from a shop where people were answering ALL of my questions in the attached forum...

    • @anderslarsson7123
      @anderslarsson7123 3 года назад

      @@CHIPLOAD nice build! Where did you buy the concrete? What forum are you referring to? Thanks!

    • @CHIPLOAD
      @CHIPLOAD  3 года назад +2

      @@anderslarsson7123 thanks! please drop me an e-mail to the channels e-mail address and i can hook you up with all of the details.

    • @atiger4716
      @atiger4716 2 года назад

      Hello, wonderful channel! New subscriber here.
      I would like to have details on uhpc you're using, but I can't find you email to contact you.
      Thanks very much

  • @samuelt321
    @samuelt321 3 года назад +1

    Super nice results! Get my mind going about building machines for my self.

    • @CHIPLOAD
      @CHIPLOAD  3 года назад

      Thanks, yeah just try it :) If you need any help or information just get in touch anytime happy to assist to avoid mistakes we made...

  • @superkas
    @superkas 3 года назад +6

    Subbed man! Really love your approach, can't wait for more!

    • @CHIPLOAD
      @CHIPLOAD  3 года назад

      Thanks a lot!

    • @pdj26
      @pdj26 3 года назад

      Yes me too real excited to see how it goes

  • @hamiltonpianos
    @hamiltonpianos 3 года назад +1

    Great video! Looking forward to the rest of the build!👍😁

    • @CHIPLOAD
      @CHIPLOAD  3 года назад +1

      Thanks Adrian!

  • @RobertLopez66
    @RobertLopez66 3 года назад +1

    Awesome! Looking forward to the next vid.

  • @diegofloreani3723
    @diegofloreani3723 3 года назад +2

    My god, amazing i really want to watch the next, nice job

  • @ancient_hulk
    @ancient_hulk 3 года назад +2

    A new sub for you, looking forward to seeing how it all turns out.keep up the good work

  • @Paul-pl4vy
    @Paul-pl4vy 3 года назад

    Amazing work

  • @a-cnc-f
    @a-cnc-f 3 года назад

    Wonderful.
    I also make my own 5-axis CNC machine.
    I was thinking of replase all the frames to epoxy granite to increase the strength of the whole machine.
    However, I known about UHPC by watching this video.
    I would like to know the advantages and disadvantages of epoxy granite and UHPC.

    • @CHIPLOAD
      @CHIPLOAD  3 года назад +2

      I cannot much compare Epoxy with UHPC i just used it as it is an industrial standard and if you stick with the recipe you get excellent results. So i haven't had to do experiments with Epoxy to see if it would work as this stuff is quite expensive... Hope it helps, all the best with your project! Cheers.

    • @a-cnc-f
      @a-cnc-f 3 года назад

      @@CHIPLOAD Thank you for your reply.
      I will do my best to make my own machine.

    • @amrmegahed4309
      @amrmegahed4309 2 года назад

      Hi dear..
      It is a great job
      And I want to build my lathe with UHPC
      But I wish you to let know the recipes for
      100 k.g ..I know that you have wrote them in the video but I think I got some missing stuff..so please tell me I appreciate your reply 🙏

    • @CHIPLOAD
      @CHIPLOAD  2 года назад +1

      @@amrmegahed4309 You can send me a mail to the channels E-Mail address and i can send you my calculator spreadsheet (see channel info for address) - happy to help out! Cheers

    • @amrmegahed4309
      @amrmegahed4309 2 года назад

      @@CHIPLOAD
      I can't find your email to send to you

  • @rameezsheikh7576
    @rameezsheikh7576 3 года назад

    Loved ! Ma'shaallah !
    Planning to make a milling machine With UHPC

  • @stevecarlisle3323
    @stevecarlisle3323 9 месяцев назад

    Interesting choice, as most know, concrete still retains some water after 100 years. The cast also shrinks significantly. Where are the design references that promote concrete versus epoxy type machine tool bases?

  • @WoutRikkerink
    @WoutRikkerink 3 года назад +1

    Very nice. Good to see progress again on this interesting build. What caused the green color on the concrete surface?

    • @CHIPLOAD
      @CHIPLOAD  3 года назад

      Thanks! I have absolutely no clue, the UHPC is gray, the grit/sand was red'ish, but it still keeps changing colors slightly until it cures completely. It will be painted anyways to seal it for oil/cooling/etc.

    • @WoutRikkerink
      @WoutRikkerink 3 года назад

      Ah I thought maybe it was some kind of mold release wax/oil. I've seen this color in more UHPC videos. Success, looking forward for the next update.

    • @germanconcretehead5669
      @germanconcretehead5669 3 года назад

      As far as I know, the blue coloration comes from the fly ash content in the cement and always occurs in the places where the concrete surface does not come into contact with air. But this is not uhpc specific. The color disappears immediately after demoulding and usually dissolves completely after a short time in the open air. Best regards

  • @techytools5668
    @techytools5668 3 года назад

    supper idea.brother when u going to upload next part. wating for it. plz uplpad soon

    • @CHIPLOAD
      @CHIPLOAD  3 года назад +1

      working on it - stay tuned! :)

  • @notDacian
    @notDacian 2 года назад +1

    Great work!! I also want to build a smallish CNC mill using epoxy granite, but looking at your video, i think concrete is a better alternative... Where did you buy the UHPC? and what did you pay for it?

    • @CHIPLOAD
      @CHIPLOAD  2 года назад

      Thanks a lot! I bought it online from a shop here in Germany they also have a great forum where you can ask questions and get decent answers. If you want you can drop me a message to the channels E-Mail address (see Channel -> About) and i'm happy to help with questions. I think i paid less than 200 EUR which included the bags of UHPC, the flux, the mold release agent as well as the different grain sizes (got them from the hardware store tho').

  • @ChristopherJones16
    @ChristopherJones16 2 года назад

    11:17 Ive seen this done too many times in Foundry DIY videos lol. They can never get the plastic bucket out of the concrete mix they made. I've seen some people learn from these mistakes and decided to wrap the plastic buckets with saran wrap and they would just burn it off later. Another person used a strip of tin to wrap around the buckets so the bucket could slide out of the tin and since the tin was simply wrapped around it and held together at the ends with tape they would just remove the tape and pop the tin off the sides of the concrete. Others have used cardboard tubes since theyre easier to destroy to get them out of their holes. This step of the process is ALWAYS overlooked but It only takes one time of not wrapping the plastic to learn not to make that mistake again haha. Getting those out are not fun and I could feel your pain from the other side of the monitor.

    • @CHIPLOAD
      @CHIPLOAD  2 года назад

      Yeah i put a lot of mold release agent onto them but i guess there is not much you can do due to a bit of shrinkage by the concrete anyways...

  • @MrZhefish
    @MrZhefish 3 года назад +1

    hi there! are you scraping or did you use precision ground stock for the rail bed? if pre ground material has been used; how did you ensure that both sides keep the same plane? i assume as it was drying on a wooden table, the 150 - 200kg of material could have bend it? did you notice any bulging of the sides of the MDF? :) so many questions and so long until this awesome stuff continues! gut ding will weile haben, grüsse aus spanien

    • @CHIPLOAD
      @CHIPLOAD  3 года назад +3

      hey and thanks! stock was just some cold rolled steel as it makes no sense to bring in any precision before casting this massive block (160kg UHPC + 30kg steel) with all the deformation of the mold due to bending or hardening (even tho' it's UHPC it will shrink to some extend obviously the steel still won't). it is slightly bend with a bow in the middle which was to be expected. bulging of the sides was close to nothing as we pre-calculated the forces (it's particle board not MDF). long story short we're currently building a large CNC machine in parallel to mill the entire bed before starting to either scape or fine-adjust the linear-rails. stay tuned and take care! cheers from germany! 👍

  • @grandmastersreaction1267
    @grandmastersreaction1267 4 месяца назад

    Did you add mold release to the mold? Kind regards

  • @CatNolara
    @CatNolara 2 года назад

    Really cool
    I'm planning on building a CNC milling machine with components out of UHPC and I read that there's some shrinkage which can cause cracks when you cast in large steel parts. Did you have any issues on those long guide bars? This makes me hopeful that my plans might work though since yours is bigger than what I'm planning and it still worked pretty fine it seems.

    • @CHIPLOAD
      @CHIPLOAD  2 года назад

      Thanks! Haven't had any trouble with cracks at all but shrinkage caused some warping of the steel bars which I learned can be avoided by shorter anchoring bolts (like half the size I did or something). All the best for your build! 👍

  • @lucianovasco4654
    @lucianovasco4654 2 года назад

    Que coisa mais perfeita. Você poderia dizer se essa mistura é feita com cimento comum? Ou é epoxi? Agradeço muito se você puder passar a receita. Ah, parabéns.

    • @CHIPLOAD
      @CHIPLOAD  2 года назад

      Thank you! No it's not regular concrete but a special mix (no epoxy). It is called "NANODUR Compound 5941".

  • @ZURAD
    @ZURAD 3 года назад

    Very cool casting! Is this going to be open source? I design Open Source hardware and would love to help out or try making my own lathe similar to this.

    • @CHIPLOAD
      @CHIPLOAD  3 года назад +2

      Thanks! There are currently no plans or anything but we are happy to support any endeavours in building something similar. There is plently of things we have to solve in the next couple of steps so stay tuned and if you have any questions let us know! Cheers

    • @ZURAD
      @ZURAD 3 года назад

      @@CHIPLOAD Yeah I'll keep an eye on it. So you're not building based off of any plans? Do you have a Discord or anything like that where people can congregate?

    • @CHIPLOAD
      @CHIPLOAD  3 года назад +1

      We do have basic plans for calculations/parts but nothing that would as of a quality to open source it right now. Regarding Discord, no there is none right now but we have an oldskool channel E-Mail address if you want to follow up on anything...

    • @ZURAD
      @ZURAD 3 года назад

      @@CHIPLOAD I'd love to see what you have so far in the drawings or calculation department. Very interested in making my own lathe and surface plates. My email is info (at) zurad dot engineering.

  • @wladimirlopes5841
    @wladimirlopes5841 3 года назад

    Ficou sensacional.Despensou muita usinagem

  • @wladimirlopes5841
    @wladimirlopes5841 3 года назад

    Saudações do Brasil.você usou cimento comum com brita.

  • @wladimirlopes5841
    @wladimirlopes5841 3 года назад

    Ficou muito bom seu trabalho

  • @LordSaliss
    @LordSaliss 2 года назад

    Is there any specific advantage to using special concrete like this instead of a more typical epoxy-granite that would normally be used for a machine base (if not using real, full cast iron)?

    • @CHIPLOAD
      @CHIPLOAD  2 года назад +1

      Hey, i somewhere answered this in the comments: the main reason being i wanted something that works out of the box the UHPC stuff i used is an industry standard which (if you stick to it) works great. I did a few very basic experiments with self mixed epoxy granite sampled and haven't had comparable results but can't say much about epoxy granite. Eventually it was just easier this just was available and has been used in other CNC build videos on youtube. Cheers!

  • @melfjord
    @melfjord 2 года назад

    This is very interesting. I'am building a cnc mill from Epoxy granite, and seeing the Mpa for the UHPC can go up to 200 Mpa is very impressive. I just started working in a concrete firm mixing and testing concrete. The standard test for a cube is ranging from 30-60 Mpa after 28 days, depending on the mixture. i made samples of EG ranging from 8-16% epoxy in weight. Sand and gravel mixed aprox. 50/50.
    8% epoxy i got 49Mpa /1682 gram sample
    16% epoxy i got 56Mpa /1578 gram sample
    These EG samples are smaller then the standard concrete cube witch weight in around 2400 gram.
    So EG is stronger then normal concrete, But if UHPC goes upto 155-200Mpa and more stable with tempratures and easier to work with, iam starting to think UHPC is superior and waay cheaper...so will deffently try this for my cnc lathe project.

    • @CHIPLOAD
      @CHIPLOAD  2 года назад

      Thank you! Yeah I think UHPC can outperform epoxy granite and it's an industry standard so easy to work with. It all depends on whether or not you can source it. Have had many people in the US unable to find a supplier.

    • @grandmastersreaction1267
      @grandmastersreaction1267 8 месяцев назад

      ⁠@@CHIPLOAD are you in Europe? Where did you source your UHPC from?

  • @sto2779
    @sto2779 3 года назад

    What is your thoughts about UHPC vs Epoxy granite? Seems like everyone knows about EG and says EG is better, but after doing some googling it seems UHPC is just as good as EG. I can't find anyone claiming that UHPC would provide a much better CNC machine bed than EG in terms of longevity, repeatability and accuracy.

    • @CHIPLOAD
      @CHIPLOAD  3 года назад

      I don't have much expirience with Epoxy i have seen people build solid machines with it. The more important driver of my decision was that i don't have to experiment with Epoxy as the UHPC is an industrial standard if you stick with the recipe you will get splendid results and i have seen people build machines with it as well. Hope it helps, all the best! Cheers.

  • @garfield2742
    @garfield2742 3 года назад

    woaaa.

  • @builderc7445
    @builderc7445 3 года назад

    does the UHPC mix have preblended Fibers in them?

    • @CHIPLOAD
      @CHIPLOAD  3 года назад

      No it doesn't, it seems there is no benefit of reinforced fibers at all for this UHPC stuff

  • @wesaderty
    @wesaderty Год назад

    Does this concrete have any kind of shrinkage after curing? any chance of it contracting after some time and eventually warping the guides?

    • @CHIPLOAD
      @CHIPLOAD  Год назад +1

      Let's say it has notable less shrinkage than regular concrete but it's there. You have to machine the steel surfaces after curing. Once it is cured completely I couldn't measure any more deformation...

    • @wesaderty
      @wesaderty Год назад

      @@CHIPLOAD Hello friend, it's me again. I'm trying to find a national supplier for this Nanodur premix, but I'm not succeeding. So, I tried to find out more about this premix, and on their website it says to be a composition of 59% Nanodur cement (which I believe is a good quality cement) and 41% 0.25mm stone powder. With this information, wouldn't it be possible to build a similar premix? Because cement is very cheap and the stone dust was just buying a 60 mesh hand held. What do you think?

    • @wesaderty
      @wesaderty Год назад

      another question: What would be this flux that you add? would it be the PCE superplasticizer or Shrinkage reducer or both combined?

    • @CHIPLOAD
      @CHIPLOAD  Год назад

      I wouldn't try to mix the stuff myself I don't think it is regular cement, where are you located at?

    • @CHIPLOAD
      @CHIPLOAD  Год назад

      From what I could find out you're right it is PCE as a flux. I don't think there is an additive to prevent shrinkage (the water you add will dry eventually and this is probably the main part about shrinking but just my guess)

  • @Rick-ts2md
    @Rick-ts2md Год назад

    Hallo Freund! Können Sie mir sagen, ob dieses Produkt hier in Deutschland erhältlich ist? Ich würde gerne wissen, ob es so gut ist wie Epoxidgranit und ob keine Aushärtung erforderlich ist. denn nach dem, was ich im Video gesehen habe, haben Sie es am nächsten Tag nach dem Füllen der Form entformt.

    • @CHIPLOAD
      @CHIPLOAD  Год назад

      Hi, ja gibt es in Deutschland, bitte einfach eine E-Mail an die Adresse des Kanals schicken für weitere Details. Es muss aushärten, allerdings kann man es in der Regel nach früher entformen um es besser zu belüften. Einen direkten Vergleich zu Epoxidgranit kann ich nicht ziehen aber UHPC stammt aus der Industrie und ist entsprechend reproduzierbar bei sachgemäßer Anwendung. Viel Erfolg!

  • @wladimirlopes5841
    @wladimirlopes5841 3 года назад

    Ganhou um inscrito

  • @wladimirlopes5841
    @wladimirlopes5841 3 года назад

    Qual material você usou.Foi areia, cimento e pedra ?

    • @CHIPLOAD
      @CHIPLOAD  3 года назад

      I used a compound called UHPC (Ultra High Performance Concrete) which is a special cement where you have to add sand, gravel, water and flux in a given ratio. If you want more details i can provide them via E-Mail (just drop me a message to the E-Mail address in the channel info) - happy to support!

    • @wladimirlopes5841
      @wladimirlopes5841 3 года назад

      @@CHIPLOAD obrigado pela explicação.Vou construir uma pequena frezadora.

  • @paulprobusjr.7597
    @paulprobusjr.7597 2 года назад

    Anyone know where to find UHPC stateside? I can't find anything when googling it outside of reference material, magazine articles and commercial mixers. I'm considering trying a non-shrink "precision" grout (not the grout used for tiles, but used for building machine pads to anchor machines to) that is about 1/2 the strength of UHPC but readily available locally.

    • @CHIPLOAD
      @CHIPLOAD  2 года назад +1

      I've been asked this many times too and it seems to be really hard to find a source in the states. If i couldn't source it i would probably revert to an epoxy granite mix instead of using concrete that's not made for this purpose (at least many machines have been build this way successfully). Besides the low shrinkage of UHPC the more important factor to take into consideration is the increased tensile strength which is close to aluminium if mixed and applied correctly. Good luck with your search!

    • @paulprobusjr.7597
      @paulprobusjr.7597 2 года назад

      @@CHIPLOAD Thanks. I was directing this question to my stateside compatriots who I am sure are also following along your build. The problem with epoxy granite mix is that I cannot find a commercially available (to the average person) product and I do not trust those "homemade recipes" I have come across on web searches, because none have undergone any kind of standardized testing. An open source epoxy granite recipe that has been tested and shown to be repeatable would be ideal, but I have not found such an animal.

    • @CHIPLOAD
      @CHIPLOAD  2 года назад +1

      @@paulprobusjr.7597 I got a few people from the states messaging me on instagram and said they will let me know once they find a source, so if you want you can drop me an E-Mail (to the channel's E-Mail address) or DM me on IG and i will let you know once someone got a source.

    • @paulprobusjr.7597
      @paulprobusjr.7597 2 года назад

      @@CHIPLOAD Will do, thanks!👍

  • @archeriran
    @archeriran 3 года назад

    is FLUX same as FLUP ? (Polycarboxylatether (PCE)) ?

    • @CHIPLOAD
      @CHIPLOAD  3 года назад

      yes, i think so FLUP is Polycarboxylatether(PCE) or what do you mean with "FLUX"?

    • @avadharayati4615
      @avadharayati4615 3 года назад

      @@CHIPLOAD in your video you wrote """flux"""

    • @CHIPLOAD
      @CHIPLOAD  3 года назад

      @@avadharayati4615 yes, it is part of the UHPC manufacturer recipe to make sure it is self-compacting and flows inside the mold

  • @secondpartdiycncandautomat8433
    @secondpartdiycncandautomat8433 3 года назад

    how much dosage to make uhpc sir??

    • @CHIPLOAD
      @CHIPLOAD  3 года назад

      hey, you mean the ratio between the components? i created a spreadsheet for that, send me an email to the channel's email address and i can provide it to you.

  • @mrmakinist
    @mrmakinist 3 года назад

    l wait four eyes part 5

    • @CHIPLOAD
      @CHIPLOAD  3 года назад

      We are working on it, stay tuned!

  • @sdemirel75
    @sdemirel75 2 года назад

    What is the content of flux?

    • @CHIPLOAD
      @CHIPLOAD  2 года назад +1

      Polycarboxylate ether (PCE) from what the manual reads.

    • @sdemirel75
      @sdemirel75 2 года назад

      @@CHIPLOAD thank you

  • @dustup2249
    @dustup2249 Год назад

    Fail.

  •  3 года назад +2

    Another instant sub! Love the way that build starts... Hardly waiting for follow ups!
    Oh, and expect email to ask for more informations 😜
    @heavy_mad_things another serious builder there 😍

    • @CHIPLOAD
      @CHIPLOAD  3 года назад +1

      thanks! happy to provide whatever you need

  • @crapisnice
    @crapisnice 3 года назад +1

    you could adapt the mixer for vacuum mixing with a cover and a vacuum pump screwed , this increases the strength (less concrete needed) and durability reprap.org/forum/read.php?1,884820,884820#msg-884820