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I used to buy Factor, but I found myself adding spices/seasoning to the food to make it edible. I understand the convenience of it, but when my own cooked meals taste better (and cost me less to buy the ingredients to prepare), I'm gonna stick to what tastes better. 🙂
I honestly love the custom lumber area but you forgot to build a fire department! 😆 As for a name for the new township it should probably be related to the new lumber company, so Lewis... something: Lewis Village, Lewisville, Lewis Mills, Lewis River, etc. I really enjoyed today's video. Also, sometime in the future when you're feeling particularly silly please name a future town Otisburg as a reference to Superman (1978).
Hey Phil, I would say that it actually makes sense for that soccer field to be lower than the grade. We have them everywhere where I live. They double as flood control. With the constant harvesting of trees, those hills won’t absorb as much water as they used to.
Thats actually a really good shout. I live in Canada, and after reading your comment I can think of a few pitches that are sunk. Never really thought about it before but that makes a lot of sense lol.
Yes I agree, and the soccer field needs high fencing, at least on the sides that have the soccer goals. Stray balls into the traffic is not a good thing. The field could also benefit from some lighting.
Except you're on a hill next to the river. They probably would just lead the water straight to the rivier instead. A small ditch on the edges of the treefarms would probably do the trick.
I agree, I was have said a few times that the city tours actually show you more of the before than the after, and it's not really interesting to see the before when it's just forest, especially as CPP does such an amazing job detailing. This was better, I think we don't need to see every before space if it was forest. I do like how it ended, that really gives an idea of how much it changes.
Man, this one looks fantastic. I really like the forestry surface, makes it feel like there's a dense carpet of pine needles or leaves on the ground beneath all the trees.
I work in forestry and it really is just like that. When you walk out into a cut (especially if it was an intentional tree farm) the ground is sometimes a couple inches deep with brown needles. It's amazingly soft and home to all sorts of interesting creepy-crawlies and mosses. It's sublime in the early morning with a fog in the rows.
Cole from Maine here. love what you did with the forestry industry! Being from Maine, logging is a huge industry here. In Maine, hunting, hiking and snowmobiling are big recreational past times, and often take place in the logging and timber lots that are currently not being cut. There are logging roads that go between the different wood lots for easy access for heavy equipment, and allow for the recreational activities. Would be cool to see this implemented, maybe with adding paths or dirt roads that break up the different trees of different ages, with the odd hunting cabin or camp ground. Often times abandoned and unused rail lines are used as hiking, hunting and snowmobile trails. Maybe an abandoned rail line could be added looking like it once ran through the area before the uses and industries changed. Just a thought to make the area look like it has a richer history and multiple uses. Also, my suggestion for the town name for the new industry area would be Lewiston. Lewis Lumber Company is expanding, and there's a city in Maine called Lewiston that used to be a big mill town, I think it would be a fitting name for Lewis Lumber Company and their new lumber mill and a fun nod to Lewiston Maine.
I think a perfect example of the logging roads I'm talking about would be north of Sebec Lake in Maine. Check out google maps. Definitely respecting the topography, branching out like fingers to reach the different wooded areas
Oregonian here. Our forestry companies actually have full time public liaison employees that can be called to see if a particular logging road is open to recreation and what type. In addition to off roading, horseback riding, mountain biking and gravel biking are really popular. All they ask in return is if you report anything that is against their policies. It gives the public a huge amount of recreational area that often connects into national forest and BLM land and gives the forestry company monitoring of remote areas.
Do not remove the surface! Trees take up a LOT of resources from the soil. As a matter of fact, most forest's soil are really poor in nutrients (hence why most dense forests have no grass). The soil turns more brown-ish and eventually, some sort of humus is manually added so it becomes more favourable for the industry And for the new district, what about "Lewis New Grounds"? Lastly, the tour is better! I appreciated it, really 😊 Edit for the people: goddamn it, I mean the first 10m of soil is very poor to sustain grass, not only due to the forest casting shadows, but for the trees stealing most of the nutrients for themselves
And that's especially true of the kinds of trees typically planted for forestry... e.g. fast-growing pines. Even where they're not blocking out all the light, nothing grows beneath them.
@@toddblankenship7164 yes, they are poor in soil nutrients, specially on the surface layers. About 10m down they become richer bevause the roots feed from there
Definitely liked this City Tour better! Thank you for taking our feedback and working on it. I just want to take a few mins to live in your city at the end of the episode. Keep bringing the intimacy (perfect word) and the zen, and you will totally get it dialed in. Build was fantastic too!
the way this guy builds cities is almost like a signature that you would write on a check. everybody can easily understand how it was done, but nobody can make it as pretty (or efficient) as he does.
On the soccer field, I would put a tall fence along the goal end that is at the roadway. This does two things, stops balls from landing on cars driving by, and stops kids from dashing in to the road to retrieve a ball when they ultimately miss the goal - don't ask how I know this...
Yes. That area doesn't feel finished. I'm not sure I like the surface covering the area past the soccer field either but I'm OK with it. Add some fencing for sure. Maybe a hotdog vendor and bathrooms. It's a little too plain and I would be shocked if there wasn't at least a little parking.
The fence isn't necessary. I live right next to a soccer field that has the goal line but up against a high frequency residential (though low density) road and has no fence. It has never been a problem. The fence would be expensive to maintain, and would limit access to the park grounds.
@@spamfilter32we have “backstop” style fencing for a lot of our fields. So it’s still fully accessible because the high fence is only directly behind the end of fields. It’s less expensive to maintain than hedges, and cuts the city rec departments liability insurance costs by more than enough to offset the cost of maintaining anyway.
@skyechimes658 the field near my home has no fence at all. But there is greenspace between the field and the road. Maybe 15-20 feet. So maybe that is considered enough buffer to keep kids from running out onto the street without being seen? I don't know, but there is another park I drive past occasionally that has 4 soccer fields and also no fence at all.
This looks awesome. Suggestion: the neighbourhood football pitch probably should have a fence behind the goal area to prevent balls being kicked onto the road and stop kids running out onto the road. Other sides probably don't need a fence.
Seconding this. Most new fields have fencing (or dense bushes like the asset's hedge) along any nearby roads. The trees would be fine for the residential loop as they are farther out, but the collector/arterial definitely should.
God bless the line tool - I remember Imperatur making vineyards before it came out and I think it sent him slightly mad. Also, very fitting that the soccer pitch is on Sheffield Street, given that Sheffield FC is the world's oldest football club.
I loved that city tour! I can’t wait to see it in one of your more urban builds. In fact, I’d love some footage of you just driving through downtown bend to see what it looks like from a resident’s perspective. All the work you do with detailing really stands out in the closer up views and showing a street level view gives me such a nice relaxing intimate feeling. Seriously, I think I could fall asleep to just a montage of street level footage from all of MC!
Please keep the surfaces! I live in Finland and the darker underbrush feels so much more realistic and correct when it comes to forests not only in general but also for forestry industry. The soccer field being sunken is pretty accurate too, especially for local neighborhoods - I see them around, they help divert rainwater from the streets.
I LOVE seeing clear cut blasts, that's why I wish you'd used them more, but I grew up in Illinois, and yeah, it's more realistic for a Wisconsin-ish state to push dirt around. It's flat where we are/were, and blasting is for bedrock and mountains. Hell, that's why we have basements in the north, but we don't get them in Texas. It's all dirt up there. That's why driving through Tennessee highways is so nuts, the amount of sheer rock walls is insane!
Perhaps Lewis Hills for the new town? A reference to the first development project that the Lewis family ever took on and a bit of suited to the hilly forests that they're developing now instead of tropical river fronts.
I really want to see you do a map like Arizona, with a bunch of mesas, canyons, washes, etc. So you can play with those dramatic landscaping edges, and not have to smooth everything!
Just not a lot of maps available, and the ones that are are very flat or just rolling hills, and mountains that nobody would build on. Need some good map makers from CS1 to come over and share maps, or they could improve the map making tools. I've made some maps I really liked in CS1 but it takes quite a few hours just doing detailing.
Wildland Firefighter here, gotta love your work and props to proper, environmentally conscious and sustainable forestry management practices for commercial agriculture and recreation! 🌲🔥🌵 P.s. I just got and ate my first two Factor meals this week and OMG they’re SO GOOOOD!!!!
It's honestly so gorgeous, Phil. It was just as satisfying watching you with the lumber farms! The different colors of the trees make such a beautiful pattern.
I love the story of this series so far! To go with the story I'd say a good name for the new district could be "Charles' Hollow" or "Charleswood" to give Chuckles some level of "ownership" of the area he helped create. Maybe later it'll be called "Chuckles' Folly"?
Man, these builds look better and better with every episode. The mods are getting to a point where the game is super malleable, allowing you to make things look absolutely outstanding. Love to see this level of customization finally exist in the game
Big big fan of the new city tour. Not just because of the "more intimate" approach, but also the lack of cuts. It was smoother and let us appreciate the space you created much more. That said, I do like how the older city tours contrast the nature of the change. So maybe there's a way to bring in both? The zoomed in views without jarring cuts, but still some overlays and cross fades to show old into new? Also, strong agree on keeping the surface for the tree farm.
Hey Phil! The tour was great! I also appreciate that we have a new big landmark that can serve as a point of reference to orient us around the city - similar to the way we knew where we were in Verde Beach in relation to the zoo, campus, amusement park, etc. Excellent build and love love LOVE how you brought the forestry district to life!
The new Township should be called something that pays tribute to the Lewis Lumber Co that takes up the majority of the area. Possibly something like Lewisville or Lewisburgh.
I enjoy all of your city tours, love the before and after shots. I think today's tour did a job showcasing the change without being as jarring as some previous tours. Another commenter mentioned this: The soccer field being at a lover grade could be a feature. In my area we have turned a lot of overflow (from retention/flood ponds) into soccer/football fields. Since they are for "hundred year" floods/flash storms they rarely have water so they are the perfect place for practice/neighborhood fields. Great video as always!
I'd say irl the fence around that football field would be a requirement, espacially at least behind the goal by the main-ish road, even fence taller than usual, or a net on top of standard fence, to stop balls from flying onto that road.
I would love to see a dedicated series of how you can do different styles of districts and zones for road layouts, zoning, and anything else. Such as industrial, city center, rural, planned developments, downtown, etc. something that covers “do things like this” without story or filler. Very tutorial-like.
Comments/Questions/Concerns: The line tool and forest age thing looks REALLY nice. Makes the whole industrial area look very neat while maintaining a bit of a natural look. The Cargo Rail thing is actually kinda genius, though. Someday you'll get railroads to work as intended first try! 34:33- bump in the rail line? -Fire Industry- You already know about this, so this is a gentle reminder before Myrtle takes her Park back. Remember you'll need both ground and air support for all those trees and industry buildings. Phil, are you ok? You took away all the lighting from the soccer field and the park. What happened to Safety Phil? Anyways, I think it would be natural that Lewis Lumber had a nod in the new zone's name. Maybe one of the family's first names? Also, I would think they might name a road after Chuckles as thanks for bringing this opportunity to them. Last concern- You did address a comment about the obstruction of James' view in the comments for the last video, but didn't fix it in this one. Too much on your mind? As always, a pleasure to watch you design and build according to a story. Thanks, CPP!
Gorgeous build. One small and unreasonable ask of the fame devs would be if some parks, e.g., soccer pitches, could be terrain conforming. Being from a hilly rural area, I’m used to parks conforming to the land. My childhood soccer games were played on pitches on a literal hillside - the teams would switch sides regularly in every match so everyone got a turn at the downhill slope advantage 🙂 would be a fun little thing to have for realism’s sake.
Hey Phil, great video! If I lived in Magnolia County, though, I would be protesting that paper mill like none other. I live a few hours from a town with one, and I hate going there because the whole town wreaks! It could be fun to work some protests into the lore.
Hi Phil, with the soccer field there is definitely a few things you'd want to change. Either make it lower level as a flood basin (commonly seen in Nova Scotia) or you'll want to add high fencing behind the nets so there's less chance of a ball heading into traffic. If this was just a community field I'd keep the lights off but since the asset looks so polish with the lines I think the lights would be great for youth and rec leagues to use as well
@CityPlannerPlays. Paths. If you dont make a path from the park to the road along the hill, the neighborhood kids sure will. The same goes for the gorgeous forested hills. What makes this neighborhood standout is its integration into the forrest and it is a shame that no paths crisscross the forrest, nothing formal. Maybe you could use the forestry surface, to mark some trails.
Man I had a mental picture in my head of what you looked like based off of your voice and seeing the face to the voice was jarring just because of how different it was but you look great man I really love your content it’s soothing and satisfying keep up the great work man
For the city tours, you should have more scenes of the camera following cars, buses, and even pedestrians around to see how they intimately connect to your builds each episode.
This series is the thing that brings me the second most joy in my life. Right after hanging out with my boyfriend. I make him watch and he enjoys when things get on fire.
I love the inclusion of a sports facility in the Myrtle Park neighborhood, one suggestion is adding fencing/netting behind the goals to prevent balls, and by extension kids chasing them, from going into the street!
For the new "town", how about simply "The Wald", since it's mainly just the woods and I doubt it'd have a formal name. Beautiful city tour!!! Great job bringing the best of old and new tour styles together. I think you really hit the nail on the head with this one, and you'll continue to refine it even better as you go.
Honestly, maybe add some of the forestry surface texture to the surrounding forest, rather than remove it entirely, to really integrate the industry into its surroundings visually. And for a name suggestion, Woods Hill, just because it sounds similar to Woods Hole and I find that amusing
A large forestry area near my home town of Bathurst in Australia, was called Sunny Corner (Sunny Corner State Forest). I think given the area and the lovely terrain, that suits wonderfully. Sunny corner is also known for having good 4wheel drive tracks, so it adds a "tourism" aspect to the industry.
It looks like you took that comment in the previous video (the one asking for more context as to where in the city you are when you switch spots) to heart! I love seeing positive interactions and the acceptance of good criticism like you’ve shown here!
Hey Phil, as a brazilian, I must say that soccer fields have very specific grass which is really hard to take care of. I would suggest not stretching the same grass to the area around it. Also, if there was some fencing behind the goalkeepers, it would be more realistic as it avoids losing the ball and have someone run towards traffic to get back. The benches to watch are very realistic as well if you wanna keep it :D
Dear Mayor Chuckles, I notice that the plans for the riverbend road call for grading to create a valley at the point. I think it would be awesome if the grading leveled the river side, so drivers could get a nice view across the water. Thank you for your time.
MUCH easier way of moving the integrated stops: place where you want it and then, using the developer info debug bit that allows selecting of sub objects, you select the stop and use the _Transform_ so simply slide it away from the track edge. Easy peasy! I did that (without the transform) a few months back. You just never get cargo, unless it's on route from an actual cargo station to another/outside.
Looks great! There’s tree farms in Uruguay that “respect the topography” and follow contour lines. Makes for some pretty cool, fingerprint-like forests!
Idk what it is about your channel, but it’s always my go-to when I’m feeling physically rough. First time i found you was with OG Verde Beach when I was recovering from COVID. Now I’m recovering from a pretty bad injury and I’m thrilled to have so much to catch up on! Thank you for your videos!
Hey Phil! A name suggestion for the new neighborhood can be Riverbend Station, as the district is located adjacent to the biggest bend in the river, plus it has a sort of big station in it.
Lewis on the Wold, or Myrtuswald perhaps. In old English, Wald was the Saxon word for forest, and it often was changed to 'Wald' instead. The Lewis prefix is for the company of course, and Mytrus is a genus of plants, but also the origin of the name Myrtle.
Love the change with the city tour. When I first started watching your videos, when you got to the city tour section I was expecting more street-level views, like you'd experience if you were touring a city in person.
How about Woodsbend since the river wraps around much of the new forest district. Also, could you maybe do a foot path across the new mini park. It'd be a a more direct path across instead of a long walk around the bend and it kinda looks odd seeing the soccer field pend in by streets on three sides and then just open on the last.
Looks great, but you'll have to rework the railcrossing on the curved road in the custom cargo terminal. The train ist driving through the railway barrier!
I loved the tour, Im a soccer addict so I was also wondering if you would show if the sims actually go and play but oh well…it was still a very nice video. Very zen while still engaging. A good watch. Thanks for inviting me to hang out in your city.
Very nice! Maybe you can add an ecoduct over the river near the sharp bend for the animals to cross the river. And make the Forest more dense across the river.
Love the improvements for the trees. Here are a few names:: (1: Ravenwood - 2: Lewistown - 3: Sherwood - 4: Emberwood). For my builds as (Drakervon) in past cities I used Rvonwood. I was thinking Lewiston (town) because that was a TON of Trees. Sherwood is for the Trees = Money for the Fantasy of it al. Lastly Emberwood or (Mertlewood) to appease the Goddess of Forest and Fire. And please don't forget city services Fire Protection and Police within the New Tree Farms area. Great work as always. Love the videos. Keep up the wonderful work / play.
Definitely like the custom railyard! I think you should add some rail sections that simulate shunting/switching operations that would generally be present possibly add a building and spur rail section to house the switching locomotive. Not to mention there's probably a need for a little railway employee parking there too.
One way to prevent trains to get stuck on traffick, is to add one or two railways to rural areas, where trains can stop and wait for other train to pass. They are usually located in plases in middle of nowhere.
Where I live, the forestry lands are grants. So an example would be Wentworth grant. All it is is an unincorporated forest. Like Kings grant after chuckles who.worked to bring the Lewis forestry industry to the county.
We love this forestry field, it looks so great! I do like the surface as is, it makes it look well-tread by the extractors. Commented last video, so commenting until it's seen, but the boardwalk has no jetty!
For the new name, my suggestion is Little Amazon! Because here in Brazil, we have a very unsustainable way of harvesting trees and on MC you did it the right way, so it would be a good homage and a awareness message
What about Muskegon for the new Industry, named after Meuskegon, Michigan? Charles Hackley, the owner of the biggest logging operation there, was big on giving back to his city and making sure to donate wherever he could. I think it's a fitting name, given the location of Magnolia County.
Incredible build man. However, I feel like the lumber yard for the trains seems a bit too empty. I’d assume there would be some lighting and yard offices for employees. Just a thought. Keep it up.
This lumber industry looks just amazing. Could we get a fast forward of the tree cycle? Would need to be recorded out of normal simulation I guess, but could show a bit about the possibilities in CS2. Very much appreciated that you educate yourself outside the videos to include specific principles and strategies, and teach us in turn, how some of these things work - beyond your already existing knowledge and experience in city planning.
Maybe a fence around the soccer field, torwads the streets would help to prevent accidents and kids running onto the streets? Maybe even a higher fence behind the goal on the south side (directly at the street). Cars driving by and neighbours on the other side of the street would surely appreciate it, as well as parents of kids playing. Next, a small building with changing rooms, toilet/shower, lockers, storage for tools and a ride on mower could be added. The pitch looks too nice to be just a neighbourhood pitch that no one cares for.
As far as the new district of Briarwood Way, I'm making a bit of an old-school suggestion... McCord. Name comes from an old John Wayne movie about a former lumberjack turned gold prospector.
I like the forestry surface. It shows signs of human intervention compared to other non tree farm areas. If you have vehicles going there to care for and harvest the trees you would expect the ground to be different.
I really like "The Devil is in the Details" - it might be your best work yet! (also really like "Moving it with Q") The city tour was great! I love it when you get down into first-person view...it's such a stark difference in how the city looks vs. the usual top-down. Lebanon is a great place name for a lumber industry considering that "the cedars of Lebanon" have been famous since antiquity. I think that "Millwood" would be an obvious (punny) name for the new area, but maybe too boring? The lumber area could use more "access" roads both for added realism and...well...you know. Try running them between two differently sized sections that are far from existing roads. In Maine, the access roads will have tiny saplings on one side and mature pines on the other.
Awsome build yet again! First thing i thought about the football(soccer) field is that there needs to be atleast some kind of fence towards the main road to avoid some stray balls on the street
I would probably fence in the soccer field - I know that that wouldn't be a street that carries a ton of traffic, but I still think that there would be the danger of balls and players ending up in the middle of the road.
I've been thinking how an Industries DLC could look in CS2, and there is some great potential! Take Logging for example; would probably have the most simple raw material system; plant trees, grow trees, harvest logs. But then that produces slash which starts off as garbage in level 1, but at high levels it can be turned into Mulch to help the city's park maintenance. Then your first producer buildings are sawmills which turn the logs into Planed Timber, which can be used in the city and exported to make construction cheaper. But those buildings will produce and store Sawdust which would become rubbish, until a later level where it can be used to make Paper, and in conjunction with the Oil industry's Methanol to create Particle Board. Come time to make a Furniture Factory, it can combine Planed Timber and Goods (produced by regular industry) to make basic furniture. But upgrades could allow it to include Particle Board, Textiles and Leather from the Farming industry, and Metals from the Mining industries, to increase the types (and values) of Furniture items it can produce. And instead of increasing it's production with a slider, you can upgrade the building instead.
Also all the missed shots on the soccer fields will end up on Sheffield Street, you could either fence around the pitch or rename the street Soccerfield, or ball boulevard
Hey Planner! Here are some name suggestions for a small urban area based on those in my area. Hillsboro, Morrison, and Beach Grove. I am absolutely loving this series, and I know everyone else is too. Can't wait for more areas to pop up, either in Magnolia County or in a new series in Superior!
I'd suggest creating 2-3 pedestrian connections in the Myrtle Park expansion, between the horseshoe and the other wiggly road - it would improve soccer field access 😊
Magnolia County is thriving with all the new industry moving into the community. I look forward to the construction of the paper factory. And more Signature buildings in general.
It'd be really cool to see you build a suuuuper rural spread out town, more than anything you've done so far in the spirit of my hometown, Chatsworth or Tabernacle NJ, As for your rural town, call it Dover! Then you can have a Bend-Dover busline!
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@@Cheetos5524 factor is pretty great, especially when you have horriod ADHD which means forgetting to eat and you also hate cooking. Being able to quickly make a hearty meal is honestly amazing
I used to buy Factor, but I found myself adding spices/seasoning to the food to make it edible. I understand the convenience of it, but when my own cooked meals taste better (and cost me less to buy the ingredients to prepare), I'm gonna stick to what tastes better. 🙂
I honestly love the custom lumber area but you forgot to build a fire department! 😆 As for a name for the new township it should probably be related to the new lumber company, so Lewis... something: Lewis Village, Lewisville, Lewis Mills, Lewis River, etc. I really enjoyed today's video.
Also, sometime in the future when you're feeling particularly silly please name a future town Otisburg as a reference to Superman (1978).
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Hey Phil, I would say that it actually makes sense for that soccer field to be lower than the grade. We have them everywhere where I live. They double as flood control. With the constant harvesting of trees, those hills won’t absorb as much water as they used to.
Thats actually a really good shout. I live in Canada, and after reading your comment I can think of a few pitches that are sunk. Never really thought about it before but that makes a lot of sense lol.
💯 agreed!
@@Amm17ar yeah, all of our flood control overflow reservoirs are parks
Yes I agree, and the soccer field needs high fencing, at least on the sides that have the soccer goals. Stray balls into the traffic is not a good thing. The field could also benefit from some lighting.
Except you're on a hill next to the river. They probably would just lead the water straight to the rivier instead. A small ditch on the edges of the treefarms would probably do the trick.
I like the "more intimate" city tour. A mix of the old before and afters, and a bit of following citizens around using the city is nice!
I agree, I was have said a few times that the city tours actually show you more of the before than the after, and it's not really interesting to see the before when it's just forest, especially as CPP does such an amazing job detailing. This was better, I think we don't need to see every before space if it was forest. I do like how it ended, that really gives an idea of how much it changes.
Man, this one looks fantastic. I really like the forestry surface, makes it feel like there's a dense carpet of pine needles or leaves on the ground beneath all the trees.
This.
I must admit, I don't like it at all
Totally agree I love it as well
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I work in forestry and it really is just like that. When you walk out into a cut (especially if it was an intentional tree farm) the ground is sometimes a couple inches deep with brown needles. It's amazingly soft and home to all sorts of interesting creepy-crawlies and mosses. It's sublime in the early morning with a fog in the rows.
Magnolia County: Forest Fires are very common here
Phil: WE NEED MORE TREES!!!
@@CityPlannerPlays He can't keep getting away with this!! 😭
Cole from Maine here. love what you did with the forestry industry! Being from Maine, logging is a huge industry here. In Maine, hunting, hiking and snowmobiling are big recreational past times, and often take place in the logging and timber lots that are currently not being cut. There are logging roads that go between the different wood lots for easy access for heavy equipment, and allow for the recreational activities. Would be cool to see this implemented, maybe with adding paths or dirt roads that break up the different trees of different ages, with the odd hunting cabin or camp ground. Often times abandoned and unused rail lines are used as hiking, hunting and snowmobile trails. Maybe an abandoned rail line could be added looking like it once ran through the area before the uses and industries changed. Just a thought to make the area look like it has a richer history and multiple uses.
Also, my suggestion for the town name for the new industry area would be Lewiston. Lewis Lumber Company is expanding, and there's a city in Maine called Lewiston that used to be a big mill town, I think it would be a fitting name for Lewis Lumber Company and their new lumber mill and a fun nod to Lewiston Maine.
I think a perfect example of the logging roads I'm talking about would be north of Sebec Lake in Maine. Check out google maps. Definitely respecting the topography, branching out like fingers to reach the different wooded areas
I see this (logging roads, etc) all the time in post 10's videos. Maine is certainly a gorgeous place!
Oregonian here. Our forestry companies actually have full time public liaison employees that can be called to see if a particular logging road is open to recreation and what type. In addition to off roading, horseback riding, mountain biking and gravel biking are really popular. All they ask in return is if you report anything that is against their policies. It gives the public a huge amount of recreational area that often connects into national forest and BLM land and gives the forestry company monitoring of remote areas.
Do not remove the surface!
Trees take up a LOT of resources from the soil. As a matter of fact, most forest's soil are really poor in nutrients (hence why most dense forests have no grass). The soil turns more brown-ish and eventually, some sort of humus is manually added so it becomes more favourable for the industry
And for the new district, what about "Lewis New Grounds"?
Lastly, the tour is better! I appreciated it, really 😊
Edit for the people: goddamn it, I mean the first 10m of soil is very poor to sustain grass, not only due to the forest casting shadows, but for the trees stealing most of the nutrients for themselves
I thought dense forests typically don't have much grass is because the trees steal all the sunlight. Leaving the forest floor mostly in the shade
@@BlarghMeow It's a combination of both things, although the lack of light is probably the primary reason.
And that's especially true of the kinds of trees typically planted for forestry... e.g. fast-growing pines. Even where they're not blocking out all the light, nothing grows beneath them.
forests are not poor in soil nutrients its a dense bed of decomposing organic matter lol and grass doesn't grow because sunlight and competition
@@toddblankenship7164 yes, they are poor in soil nutrients, specially on the surface layers. About 10m down they become richer bevause the roots feed from there
Definitely liked this City Tour better! Thank you for taking our feedback and working on it.
I just want to take a few mins to live in your city at the end of the episode. Keep bringing the intimacy (perfect word) and the zen, and you will totally get it dialed in.
Build was fantastic too!
the way this guy builds cities is almost like a signature that you would write on a check. everybody can easily understand how it was done, but nobody can make it as pretty (or efficient) as he does.
Two dollars twenty could give him a run for his money
On the soccer field, I would put a tall fence along the goal end that is at the roadway. This does two things, stops balls from landing on cars driving by, and stops kids from dashing in to the road to retrieve a ball when they ultimately miss the goal - don't ask how I know this...
Yes. That area doesn't feel finished. I'm not sure I like the surface covering the area past the soccer field either but I'm OK with it. Add some fencing for sure. Maybe a hotdog vendor and bathrooms. It's a little too plain and I would be shocked if there wasn't at least a little parking.
The fence isn't necessary. I live right next to a soccer field that has the goal line but up against a high frequency residential (though low density) road and has no fence. It has never been a problem. The fence would be expensive to maintain, and would limit access to the park grounds.
@@spamfilter32we have “backstop” style fencing for a lot of our fields. So it’s still fully accessible because the high fence is only directly behind the end of fields. It’s less expensive to maintain than hedges, and cuts the city rec departments liability insurance costs by more than enough to offset the cost of maintaining anyway.
@skyechimes658 the field near my home has no fence at all. But there is greenspace between the field and the road. Maybe 15-20 feet. So maybe that is considered enough buffer to keep kids from running out onto the street without being seen? I don't know, but there is another park I drive past occasionally that has 4 soccer fields and also no fence at all.
This looks awesome. Suggestion: the neighbourhood football pitch probably should have a fence behind the goal area to prevent balls being kicked onto the road and stop kids running out onto the road. Other sides probably don't need a fence.
Seconding this. Most new fields have fencing (or dense bushes like the asset's hedge) along any nearby roads. The trees would be fine for the residential loop as they are farther out, but the collector/arterial definitely should.
God bless the line tool - I remember Imperatur making vineyards before it came out and I think it sent him slightly mad.
Also, very fitting that the soccer pitch is on Sheffield Street, given that Sheffield FC is the world's oldest football club.
I loved that city tour! I can’t wait to see it in one of your more urban builds. In fact, I’d love some footage of you just driving through downtown bend to see what it looks like from a resident’s perspective. All the work you do with detailing really stands out in the closer up views and showing a street level view gives me such a nice relaxing intimate feeling. Seriously, I think I could fall asleep to just a montage of street level footage from all of MC!
Please keep the surfaces! I live in Finland and the darker underbrush feels so much more realistic and correct when it comes to forests not only in general but also for forestry industry.
The soccer field being sunken is pretty accurate too, especially for local neighborhoods - I see them around, they help divert rainwater from the streets.
I LOVE seeing clear cut blasts, that's why I wish you'd used them more, but I grew up in Illinois, and yeah, it's more realistic for a Wisconsin-ish state to push dirt around. It's flat where we are/were, and blasting is for bedrock and mountains. Hell, that's why we have basements in the north, but we don't get them in Texas. It's all dirt up there. That's why driving through Tennessee highways is so nuts, the amount of sheer rock walls is insane!
Perhaps Lewis Hills for the new town? A reference to the first development project that the Lewis family ever took on and a bit of suited to the hilly forests that they're developing now instead of tropical river fronts.
I really want to see you do a map like Arizona, with a bunch of mesas, canyons, washes, etc. So you can play with those dramatic landscaping edges, and not have to smooth everything!
Just not a lot of maps available, and the ones that are are very flat or just rolling hills, and mountains that nobody would build on. Need some good map makers from CS1 to come over and share maps, or they could improve the map making tools. I've made some maps I really liked in CS1 but it takes quite a few hours just doing detailing.
Transport fever 2 has these!
I like the new city tour! Makes it feel more personal. As a side note, I love the “helicopter view” (track and zoom) on the train!
Wildland Firefighter here, gotta love your work and props to proper, environmentally conscious and sustainable forestry management practices for commercial agriculture and recreation! 🌲🔥🌵
P.s. I just got and ate my first two Factor meals this week and OMG they’re SO GOOOOD!!!!
It's honestly so gorgeous, Phil. It was just as satisfying watching you with the lumber farms! The different colors of the trees make such a beautiful pattern.
New CPP video, day is already better!
Hope you like this one!
I love the story of this series so far! To go with the story I'd say a good name for the new district could be "Charles' Hollow" or "Charleswood" to give Chuckles some level of "ownership" of the area he helped create. Maybe later it'll be called "Chuckles' Folly"?
Man, these builds look better and better with every episode. The mods are getting to a point where the game is super malleable, allowing you to make things look absolutely outstanding. Love to see this level of customization finally exist in the game
Big big fan of the new city tour. Not just because of the "more intimate" approach, but also the lack of cuts. It was smoother and let us appreciate the space you created much more. That said, I do like how the older city tours contrast the nature of the change. So maybe there's a way to bring in both? The zoomed in views without jarring cuts, but still some overlays and cross fades to show old into new?
Also, strong agree on keeping the surface for the tree farm.
Hey Phil! The tour was great! I also appreciate that we have a new big landmark that can serve as a point of reference to orient us around the city - similar to the way we knew where we were in Verde Beach in relation to the zoo, campus, amusement park, etc. Excellent build and love love LOVE how you brought the forestry district to life!
The new Township should be called something that pays tribute to the Lewis Lumber Co that takes up the majority of the area. Possibly something like Lewisville or Lewisburgh.
The tour was lovely! Lots of ground level views that complement all the building in the rest of the episode.
I enjoy all of your city tours, love the before and after shots. I think today's tour did a job showcasing the change without being as jarring as some previous tours.
Another commenter mentioned this: The soccer field being at a lover grade could be a feature.
In my area we have turned a lot of overflow (from retention/flood ponds) into soccer/football fields.
Since they are for "hundred year" floods/flash storms they rarely have water so they are the perfect place for practice/neighborhood fields.
Great video as always!
This may be the only RUclips channel where I've watched every single video lol
Same
I'd say irl the fence around that football field would be a requirement, espacially at least behind the goal by the main-ish road, even fence taller than usual, or a net on top of standard fence, to stop balls from flying onto that road.
I would love to see a dedicated series of how you can do different styles of districts and zones for road layouts, zoning, and anything else. Such as industrial, city center, rural, planned developments, downtown, etc. something that covers “do things like this” without story or filler. Very tutorial-like.
Comments/Questions/Concerns:
The line tool and forest age thing looks REALLY nice. Makes the whole industrial area look very neat while maintaining a bit of a natural look. The Cargo Rail thing is actually kinda genius, though. Someday you'll get railroads to work as intended first try!
34:33- bump in the rail line?
-Fire Industry- You already know about this, so this is a gentle reminder before Myrtle takes her Park back. Remember you'll need both ground and air support for all those trees and industry buildings.
Phil, are you ok? You took away all the lighting from the soccer field and the park. What happened to Safety Phil?
Anyways, I think it would be natural that Lewis Lumber had a nod in the new zone's name. Maybe one of the family's first names? Also, I would think they might name a road after Chuckles as thanks for bringing this opportunity to them.
Last concern- You did address a comment about the obstruction of James' view in the comments for the last video, but didn't fix it in this one. Too much on your mind?
As always, a pleasure to watch you design and build according to a story. Thanks, CPP!
Gorgeous build. One small and unreasonable ask of the fame devs would be if some parks, e.g., soccer pitches, could be terrain conforming. Being from a hilly rural area, I’m used to parks conforming to the land. My childhood soccer games were played on pitches on a literal hillside - the teams would switch sides regularly in every match so everyone got a turn at the downhill slope advantage 🙂 would be a fun little thing to have for realism’s sake.
Hey Phil, great video! If I lived in Magnolia County, though, I would be protesting that paper mill like none other. I live a few hours from a town with one, and I hate going there because the whole town wreaks! It could be fun to work some protests into the lore.
Tour was excellent love the brake up with the car and train trips. The build as whole is beautiful! One of my favorites so far.
Hi Phil, with the soccer field there is definitely a few things you'd want to change. Either make it lower level as a flood basin (commonly seen in Nova Scotia) or you'll want to add high fencing behind the nets so there's less chance of a ball heading into traffic. If this was just a community field I'd keep the lights off but since the asset looks so polish with the lines I think the lights would be great for youth and rec leagues to use as well
@CityPlannerPlays. Paths. If you dont make a path from the park to the road along the hill, the neighborhood kids sure will. The same goes for the gorgeous forested hills. What makes this neighborhood standout is its integration into the forrest and it is a shame that no paths crisscross the forrest, nothing formal. Maybe you could use the forestry surface, to mark some trails.
Man I had a mental picture in my head of what you looked like based off of your voice and seeing the face to the voice was jarring just because of how different it was but you look great man I really love your content it’s soothing and satisfying keep up the great work man
For the city tours, you should have more scenes of the camera following cars, buses, and even pedestrians around to see how they intimately connect to your builds each episode.
I dont know what i look forward to most with Phils videos, the building or the fantastic imaginary backstory created!
This series is the thing that brings me the second most joy in my life. Right after hanging out with my boyfriend. I make him watch and he enjoys when things get on fire.
I love the inclusion of a sports facility in the Myrtle Park neighborhood, one suggestion is adding fencing/netting behind the goals to prevent balls, and by extension kids chasing them, from going into the street!
For the new "town", how about simply "The Wald", since it's mainly just the woods and I doubt it'd have a formal name.
Beautiful city tour!!! Great job bringing the best of old and new tour styles together. I think you really hit the nail on the head with this one, and you'll continue to refine it even better as you go.
Honestly, maybe add some of the forestry surface texture to the surrounding forest, rather than remove it entirely, to really integrate the industry into its surroundings visually.
And for a name suggestion, Woods Hill, just because it sounds similar to Woods Hole and I find that amusing
Having a city tour to music sung by the Chipmunks would have been so very fitting after an episode about a forestry industry. 🐿️
A large forestry area near my home town of Bathurst in Australia, was called Sunny Corner (Sunny Corner State Forest). I think given the area and the lovely terrain, that suits wonderfully. Sunny corner is also known for having good 4wheel drive tracks, so it adds a "tourism" aspect to the industry.
It looks like you took that comment in the previous video (the one asking for more context as to where in the city you are when you switch spots) to heart! I love seeing positive interactions and the acceptance of good criticism like you’ve shown here!
Hey Phil, as a brazilian, I must say that soccer fields have very specific grass which is really hard to take care of. I would suggest not stretching the same grass to the area around it. Also, if there was some fencing behind the goalkeepers, it would be more realistic as it avoids losing the ball and have someone run towards traffic to get back. The benches to watch are very realistic as well if you wanna keep it :D
Dear Mayor Chuckles, I notice that the plans for the riverbend road call for grading to create a valley at the point. I think it would be awesome if the grading leveled the river side, so drivers could get a nice view across the water. Thank you for your time.
MUCH easier way of moving the integrated stops: place where you want it and then, using the developer info debug bit that allows selecting of sub objects, you select the stop and use the _Transform_ so simply slide it away from the track edge. Easy peasy! I did that (without the transform) a few months back. You just never get cargo, unless it's on route from an actual cargo station to another/outside.
Love the new tour style. Getting in close to see the details at the individual sim level is always fun.
Looks great! There’s tree farms in Uruguay that “respect the topography” and follow contour lines. Makes for some pretty cool, fingerprint-like forests!
Idk what it is about your channel, but it’s always my go-to when I’m feeling physically rough. First time i found you was with OG Verde Beach when I was recovering from COVID. Now I’m recovering from a pretty bad injury and I’m thrilled to have so much to catch up on! Thank you for your videos!
Hey Phil! A name suggestion for the new neighborhood can be Riverbend Station, as the district is located adjacent to the biggest bend in the river, plus it has a sort of big station in it.
Easily one of my favorite builds that you have ever done! city tour was fantastic!
Lewis on the Wold, or Myrtuswald perhaps. In old English, Wald was the Saxon word for forest, and it often was changed to 'Wald' instead. The Lewis prefix is for the company of course, and Mytrus is a genus of plants, but also the origin of the name Myrtle.
My dad's been working at the local paper mill for over 30 years, so I'm stoked to see a mill in Magnolia County! 🏭
The next episode, which has the mill, is my favorite in the whole series. I hope you like it!
Love the change with the city tour. When I first started watching your videos, when you got to the city tour section I was expecting more street-level views, like you'd experience if you were touring a city in person.
2:18 Dang, thats a Midwestern meal. Looks amazing.
man when you brought up that CS1 lumber industry you really see how much better CS2 looks.
Great build, Phil. Loved the new city tour style! So smooth and fluid and intimate. Really allowed me to unwind and appreciate all your hard work.
How about Woodsbend since the river wraps around much of the new forest district. Also, could you maybe do a foot path across the new mini park. It'd be a a more direct path across instead of a long walk around the bend and it kinda looks odd seeing the soccer field pend in by streets on three sides and then just open on the last.
I like the idea of Forrest Hill. Nice and simple, similar idea
Oooohhh i dig that, and lower the soccer field as well, adding seats too, cool idea
Maybe Lewis Bend
I love seeing how far he has come from Bluffside Crossing I remember watching those for a while and now look at how far he has come
love how you were nerding out in this video my guy...can feel the renewed fire and passion in your energy
Looks great, but you'll have to rework the railcrossing on the curved road in the custom cargo terminal. The train ist driving through the railway barrier!
I loved the tour, Im a soccer addict so I was also wondering if you would show if the sims actually go and play but oh well…it was still a very nice video. Very zen while still engaging. A good watch.
Thanks for inviting me to hang out in your city.
Very nice!
Maybe you can add an ecoduct over the river near the sharp bend for the animals to cross the river. And make the Forest more dense across the river.
Love the improvements for the trees. Here are a few names:: (1: Ravenwood - 2: Lewistown - 3: Sherwood - 4: Emberwood). For my builds as (Drakervon) in past cities I used Rvonwood. I was thinking Lewiston (town) because that was a TON of Trees. Sherwood is for the Trees = Money for the Fantasy of it al. Lastly Emberwood or (Mertlewood) to appease the Goddess of Forest and Fire. And please don't forget city services Fire Protection and Police within the New Tree Farms area. Great work as always. Love the videos. Keep up the wonderful work / play.
You could call the area Verdant Town since it’s pretty verdant lol I love this series
I genuinely love seeing new episodes in this series! They're always exciting to see!
Definitely like the custom railyard! I think you should add some rail sections that simulate shunting/switching operations that would generally be present possibly add a building and spur rail section to house the switching locomotive. Not to mention there's probably a need for a little railway employee parking there too.
43.4109543, -80.3762213 some coordinates of a railyard that serves an industrial area for an example
One way to prevent trains to get stuck on traffick, is to add one or two railways to rural areas, where trains can stop and wait for other train to pass. They are usually located in plases in middle of nowhere.
Loved the music in this one. Didn’t expect to jam out so hard during the city tour
Where I live, the forestry lands are grants. So an example would be Wentworth grant. All it is is an unincorporated forest. Like Kings grant after chuckles who.worked to bring the Lewis forestry industry to the county.
Amazing build. Love the look of the forest industry as is. The surface texture adds realism.
Love the new city tour style! The old one was satisfying as well, but this one definitely adds that level of intimacy you were going for, for sure o7
We love this forestry field, it looks so great! I do like the surface as is, it makes it look well-tread by the extractors. Commented last video, so commenting until it's seen, but the boardwalk has no jetty!
In my local area, large areas like soccer fields are usually built in a water basin area to help with flood control.
Your railway game and suburb game are both improving. Great job with the custom forestry areas, too. They came out nice.
For the new name, my suggestion is Little Amazon! Because here in Brazil, we have a very unsustainable way of harvesting trees and on MC you did it the right way, so it would be a good homage and a awareness message
What about Muskegon for the new Industry, named after Meuskegon, Michigan? Charles Hackley, the owner of the biggest logging operation there, was big on giving back to his city and making sure to donate wherever he could. I think it's a fitting name, given the location of Magnolia County.
Incredible build man. However, I feel like the lumber yard for the trains seems a bit too empty. I’d assume there would be some lighting and yard offices for employees. Just a thought. Keep it up.
This lumber industry looks just amazing. Could we get a fast forward of the tree cycle? Would need to be recorded out of normal simulation I guess, but could show a bit about the possibilities in CS2.
Very much appreciated that you educate yourself outside the videos to include specific principles and strategies, and teach us in turn, how some of these things work - beyond your already existing knowledge and experience in city planning.
Maybe a fence around the soccer field, torwads the streets would help to prevent accidents and kids running onto the streets? Maybe even a higher fence behind the goal on the south side (directly at the street). Cars driving by and neighbours on the other side of the street would surely appreciate it, as well as parents of kids playing.
Next, a small building with changing rooms, toilet/shower, lockers, storage for tools and a ride on mower could be added. The pitch looks too nice to be just a neighbourhood pitch that no one cares for.
As far as the new district of Briarwood Way, I'm making a bit of an old-school suggestion... McCord. Name comes from an old John Wayne movie about a former lumberjack turned gold prospector.
I like the forestry surface. It shows signs of human intervention compared to other non tree farm areas. If you have vehicles going there to care for and harvest the trees you would expect the ground to be different.
I really like "The Devil is in the Details" - it might be your best work yet! (also really like "Moving it with Q") The city tour was great! I love it when you get down into first-person view...it's such a stark difference in how the city looks vs. the usual top-down.
Lebanon is a great place name for a lumber industry considering that "the cedars of Lebanon" have been famous since antiquity. I think that "Millwood" would be an obvious (punny) name for the new area, but maybe too boring? The lumber area could use more "access" roads both for added realism and...well...you know. Try running them between two differently sized sections that are far from existing roads. In Maine, the access roads will have tiny saplings on one side and mature pines on the other.
Awsome build yet again!
First thing i thought about the football(soccer) field is that there needs to be atleast some kind of fence towards the main road to avoid some stray balls on the street
I would probably fence in the soccer field - I know that that wouldn't be a street that carries a ton of traffic, but I still think that there would be the danger of balls and players ending up in the middle of the road.
I've been thinking how an Industries DLC could look in CS2, and there is some great potential! Take Logging for example; would probably have the most simple raw material system; plant trees, grow trees, harvest logs. But then that produces slash which starts off as garbage in level 1, but at high levels it can be turned into Mulch to help the city's park maintenance. Then your first producer buildings are sawmills which turn the logs into Planed Timber, which can be used in the city and exported to make construction cheaper. But those buildings will produce and store Sawdust which would become rubbish, until a later level where it can be used to make Paper, and in conjunction with the Oil industry's Methanol to create Particle Board.
Come time to make a Furniture Factory, it can combine Planed Timber and Goods (produced by regular industry) to make basic furniture. But upgrades could allow it to include Particle Board, Textiles and Leather from the Farming industry, and Metals from the Mining industries, to increase the types (and values) of Furniture items it can produce. And instead of increasing it's production with a slider, you can upgrade the building instead.
Particle Board furniture could also help citizens who can't afford hardwood furniture, thus extending its market
Hi Phil! As I understand, forestry trees are planted following the topography of the ground, not necessarily following straight lines.
Nice build! Maybe the train station could get some buildings for workers, tools, maintenance facilities, parking lots for the trucks and cars.
Also all the missed shots on the soccer fields will end up on Sheffield Street, you could either fence around the pitch or rename the street Soccerfield, or ball boulevard
Hey Planner! Here are some name suggestions for a small urban area based on those in my area. Hillsboro, Morrison, and Beach Grove. I am absolutely loving this series, and I know everyone else is too. Can't wait for more areas to pop up, either in Magnolia County or in a new series in Superior!
This is probably my favorite video in this series. Don't forget about fire coverage though!
The dense forest looks amazing, you really do need to add that to more areas of the map!
Really love the little quick addition to myrtle park and the forest industry but I think he forgot about fire safety😂
When I saw Briarwood Way, I instantly thought of Firewood Way. But this probably would be extremely hard to swallow for the survivors of the big fire.
I'd suggest creating 2-3 pedestrian connections in the Myrtle Park expansion, between the horseshoe and the other wiggly road - it would improve soccer field access 😊
Magnolia County is thriving with all the new industry moving into the community.
I look forward to the construction of the paper factory. And more Signature buildings in general.
It'd be really cool to see you build a suuuuper rural spread out town, more than anything you've done so far in the spirit of my hometown, Chatsworth or Tabernacle NJ,
As for your rural town, call it Dover! Then you can have a Bend-Dover busline!