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  • Electric boiler installation along with a new pressurised hot water cylinder makes for a very good combination for the plumbing and heating within this house.
    i remove the existing oil fed combi boiler and plumbuing pipework, then alter the pipes and get toi use the presstool properly as i refit theis electric boiler and pressurised hot water cylinder
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  • @MJTiffPlumbing
    @MJTiffPlumbing  11 месяцев назад +12

    Complete installation of this electric boiler and pressurised hot water cylinder for a customer that’s been waiting a few months.
    Please get subscribed to the channel of you like my content….

    • @gregbenham5586
      @gregbenham5586 11 месяцев назад

      To Me, it's all a bit DIY looking.

    • @richardwalker6417
      @richardwalker6417 11 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@gregbenham5586bit harsh that, I think it looks pretty spot on tbh.

  • @onlyme972
    @onlyme972 Месяц назад +3

    Crazy expence when its more effective to install tankless instant heaters in the kitchen and bathroom. I have just installed a electric combi that has separate heaters for radiators and instant hot water.

  • @robinmacthebest
    @robinmacthebest 11 месяцев назад +5

    Mark I thought I would just say how much I love watching your channel. I have no experience of plumbing and no intention of taking it up as I am the wrong side of 50 now but I can clearly see how you could inspire many younger people to take on your profession. Keep up the great content. Robin

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 месяцев назад

      Thankyou Robin…. Very kind words and glad you like the channel

  • @donaldduncan6017
    @donaldduncan6017 11 месяцев назад +2

    You are a great thinker planner of projects with excellent outcomes!😊

  • @rubbersteve123
    @rubbersteve123 11 месяцев назад +1

    Your work is so neat, tidy and professional. A pleasure to watch. Thanks.

  • @robkiss5272
    @robkiss5272 11 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks Mark for your videos. Really enjoy watching them. You and PB are brilliant! Got a job in a coupe of days and contemplating on either soldering or press fit…. 🤔. It is under floor boards for relocating pipes and a new rad…looking at this I might use the press to save time. Thanks again for sharing your experience with us.

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks mate, glad you like our content…..
      I think I would go press for ease

  • @mdocko2285
    @mdocko2285 11 месяцев назад +4

    Wicked install Mark. Would be proud to look at that. Well done mate 👍🏼

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks mate, enjoyed doing it to be honest

  • @AaronM4275
    @AaronM4275 11 месяцев назад +1

    Fair play mark such tidy work 👏👏 pressfit is starting to prove itself now

  • @SmartPipePlumbing
    @SmartPipePlumbing 11 месяцев назад +1

    Great video pal, they have definitely improved electric boilers over the year

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 месяцев назад +1

      Cheers buddy….. yep I was very impressed to be honest…

  • @rick17aa
    @rick17aa 11 месяцев назад

    This is why I like the idea of the remes press tool with the angle jaw adaptors.

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 месяцев назад

      Yep angle jaws coming for the Novopress soon

  • @Lizzard-t
    @Lizzard-t 11 месяцев назад +2

    I can really see the benefits of press fit its clean and time saving, and yes you have to think ahead,but that comes with experience of using it .
    I would really like to have a go with it .
    One good thing I can see straight away is that you can make half a tee without having to press the whole lot ,thats something you cannot do with soldering.
    Electric boilers have come on leaps and bounds since the last time i fitted one which was over 12 years ago.
    Also it incorporates the cirulator and bypass as well.
    It's good that you had basically a clean canvas to mount everything out of the way.
    And another thing is that pre-plumbed cylinder worked a treat, never fitted one,i always fit the standard type unvented .
    Yet again another quality install, and a real insight into what we go through to provide customers with heat and hot water.
    Yours is the only channel i watch which is not full of click bait and stupity.
    Fantastic video as always.

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 месяцев назад

      Thanks buddy….. appriciate the kind words…. Yes it’s a very good system to be honest

  • @chrisholt2474
    @chrisholt2474 11 месяцев назад +4

    Hi Mark, getting to grips with the press fit, I think the job looks great with the pressed fittings, in that setting.
    As far as thinking ahead about what to press in what order, an element of that goes into it when soldering fittings too.
    You just get used to it and it becomes natural after a while, as we say, press, push and solder all have a place depending on the situation.
    I’m looking forward to the film on the cost of press fit fittings etc, have a great week and take care, regards, Chris. 👍👍👍

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 месяцев назад +2

      Thanks Chris….. yep I’m getting to grips with it a little now

  • @tonymurff5234
    @tonymurff5234 11 месяцев назад +3

    Brilliant install Mark, the electric boiler looks very nice,
    The press fit looks very nice and clean,
    Haven’t seen you do much soldering in awhile 😂
    👍👍🤜

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 месяцев назад +1

      Hahaha….. I was soldering a job on Friday….😉 won’t stop me doing that, that’s for sure.
      Each one has its place…. Will be a video on it very soo

  • @owsi2297
    @owsi2297 11 месяцев назад +2

    Great video mate👏

  • @charlieforde8886
    @charlieforde8886 11 месяцев назад

    Impressed with the work 👌

  • @englishdave9986
    @englishdave9986 11 месяцев назад

    That press system definitely makes the job look mint.

  • @user-vo6ee9cf6y
    @user-vo6ee9cf6y 11 месяцев назад +1

    Great video mark 👍🏻

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks mate…Glad you enjoyed it

  • @kylejames5121
    @kylejames5121 11 месяцев назад +1

    Great video mate nice install

  • @David-bl1bt
    @David-bl1bt 10 месяцев назад +1

    A lovely neat install 👍
    Working in an outbuilding makes life so much easier doesnt it!
    Regarding the pressfit access to that tee behind the cylinder....i have seen another video where they had an sngled adaptor tgat tit between the tool and the head to facilitate access to situations like these, it may be worth purchasing.
    Anyway, a good job and an interesting video to watch

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  10 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks buddy…. Yep angle jaws are now avalible 👍🏼👍🏼

  • @TheMaintenancePlumber
    @TheMaintenancePlumber 11 месяцев назад +1

    Nice install there looks good

  • @andrewoleary9704
    @andrewoleary9704 11 месяцев назад +3

    Installed many electric boilers. TBH I’ve been impressed. No flue…. No condense….easy sighting. Have yet to do a combi version tho

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 месяцев назад +1

      Yep I’m very impressed with it to be honest👌🏼

    • @nickbea3443
      @nickbea3443 11 месяцев назад

      How are they for scale in hard water areas?

  • @normanboyes4983
    @normanboyes4983 4 месяца назад +3

    Interesting video thank you for showing the install. A surprising choice by the customer particularly in view of the property (from what I can see) - I would guess that house has a heat loss of around 9 KW at - 2C, his bills are going to be eye watering unless he heats his house to around 10C.😉 There’s a place for electric boilers and high heat loss properties are not the place for them - well unless you are minted of course.

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  4 месяца назад +1

      Solar panels now in place on this job

    • @normanboyes4983
      @normanboyes4983 4 месяца назад +2

      @@MJTiffPlumbing Well, of course any contribution by solar generation on an annualised basis will reduce the annual electrical bill a bit but unless he owns a huge barn, not shown in the video, that he can deploy about forty panels on - it is not going to touch the sides in terms of meeting the heating demand.

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  4 месяца назад +1

      @@normanboyes4983 its made a great difference so far

  • @theroadtaken2665
    @theroadtaken2665 10 месяцев назад +2

    Great content, keep it coming. Have you fitted many electric boilers? What's been your best to work on?

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  10 месяцев назад +2

      Thanks buddy…. Should be fitting a few more soon so watch out😉

  • @SteveHit1
    @SteveHit1 11 месяцев назад

    A very interesting video - thanks.
    I think you did a neat job with the press fittings.
    That house must draw some electrical power now! Hopefully they have solar and battery!

  • @Sparko337
    @Sparko337 11 месяцев назад

    Nice to see you give press fit a fair chance, hate seeing plumbers disregard it because they aren’t open to new ways of working or investing in new tools. I see it in all trades and it’s not that the old ways don’t work, because they definitely do! But doesn’t mean you should be set in your ways and not move with the times.

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 месяцев назад

      Yep I just want to give an honest review and test of pressfit as I know it’s so expensive

  • @stuartcraigon2003
    @stuartcraigon2003 4 месяца назад +1

    Im not a plumber but heavily reserched press for a commercial project i was planning. Id suggest clipping before pressing. When you did the first press the pipe was flapping all over the place.
    Another recommendation is to use McDonald water storage for cylinders. Might not be cheap but they are all made to order and can be whatever you want with fittings wherever you want them. If likd this job youve got fixed pipes to hook on to you tell them where they are and theyll put the fittings on the cylinder where you need them.

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  4 месяца назад +2

      Cheers buddy will take a look👍🏼

    • @stuartcraigon2003
      @stuartcraigon2003 4 месяца назад

      @@MJTiffPlumbing I put one link in the Elison cylinder swap video, they do like for like on them and make them to fit the space.

  • @billysalter8734
    @billysalter8734 11 месяцев назад

    Hi nice job pal I got press fit but still I prefer soldered fittings as I think looks better and tighter joints but press is good when you got bit of water in pipe and so on 👍

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 месяцев назад +1

      I agree with you completely mate

  • @richardwalker6417
    @richardwalker6417 11 месяцев назад

    Enjoyed this, and must say the pressfit is doing well. That pipework once all done and in place is looking pretty sexy.
    Magaclense/magnaclean something a competent Diy'er can install? Looks reasonably straight forward.

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks buddy 👌🏼👍🏼👍🏼

  • @alimack5489
    @alimack5489 11 месяцев назад +2

    I’ve got customers who are paying £600+ a month on electric boilers 😅 love the work mate, but the customers a brave one doing it like that

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 месяцев назад +1

      Will be getting a monthly update on what it’s costing them….. it won’t be anywhere near that figure I can assure you. And it will be a lot less than there oil boiler was costing them

  • @russellbaldry5095
    @russellbaldry5095 10 месяцев назад +1

    I recently installed a EHC comet combination unit which is a combi and unvented cylinder in one. Its the size of a fridge/freezer but it works really well. Only issue we had was the main fuse needed upgrading to 200 amp as the draw of current was too high!

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  10 месяцев назад +1

      Sounds interesting that… will take a look

    • @acelectricalsecurity
      @acelectricalsecurity 8 месяцев назад

      That's not a domestic installation, you are in CT territory there, all domestic meters are rated at 100amp and that's not continuous use either

    • @triax7006
      @triax7006 6 месяцев назад

      Sounds like that would be 3 phase as they run more than 14.4KW & need 3 phase to achieve it & are used when a bath is supplied by it or when higher flow is needed for hot water. Also possibly when more radiators are needed & more than 14.4KW is needed which draws 63 amps at 230V.

  • @steveday7510
    @steveday7510 10 месяцев назад +1

    Steve the Sparky - New subscriber love your videos

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  10 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks buddy…. Welcome aboard

  • @pauls826
    @pauls826 10 месяцев назад +1

    I have the same problem with same press gun just ordered angled jaws for them also thst pipework I’d of turned the hep elbows to the left come out of them and joined it all there just looping round loads of flow restriction 👍 also buy some reducing tees saves putting reducers in 22 tees also put some tees with valves on for flushing way you’ve done it which is what most people do flushing all the crap through the boiler I put valves on tees at the bottom and turn boiler off and flush through just the heating 👍

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  10 месяцев назад +1

      I flush with the Magnaclean so it also runs through the boiler…. 100% system flush then, not missing out key parts like the boiler

    • @pauls826
      @pauls826 10 месяцев назад

      @@MJTiffPlumbing yeh get you if it’s a new install I just flush the pipework like tees on flow and return isolate boiler if it’s an old system I try and get diverter open don’t like doing it had a piece of shit stuff in a hex once £400 later I’m chaniging it 😂

  • @allencowe9446
    @allencowe9446 11 месяцев назад

    Great video again.
    Ive been using press fit for around 10 years. Only recently ive gone back to soldering now and again, recently 54mm heating piprwork for a hotel boiler house, but ive only soldered thete due to cost of the larger peess tool and jaws.
    Have a good week matey.

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 месяцев назад

      Thanks buddy….. yep I’m starting to get used to the press

  • @CelebDigest
    @CelebDigest 3 месяца назад

    Well explained

  • @sunnybeachwalks4k2022
    @sunnybeachwalks4k2022 10 месяцев назад +1

    Lovely
    Job

  • @joshmobbs2445
    @joshmobbs2445 11 месяцев назад

    Good practice to mark ur fittings

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 месяцев назад

      Yep that’s why I do👍🏼👍🏼

  • @deano-qj9tj
    @deano-qj9tj 10 месяцев назад +1

    Nice neat install, just wondering if you think there is any energy usage difference between using the boiler on a s plan as you done or using the boiler for heating only and using the immersion heaters for hot water

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  10 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks buddy…… to be honest I would say it’s cheaper to run it as an s plan

  • @garyredfern5303
    @garyredfern5303 11 месяцев назад

    Yes to the press. Looks really good. Would be interested to know how much energy that electric boiker uses compaired to there old oil or the equivalent in gas. 👍👍

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 месяцев назад

      Will be finding out soon 👍🏼👍🏼

  • @The_Dua
    @The_Dua 11 месяцев назад

    Can't wait to see the break down on costs for a job like this probably an extra £50 worth of fittings vs end feed. Less mess less effort i probably start using mine now.

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 месяцев назад

      Yep I can see the pros and cons of both solder and press

  • @painterman8863
    @painterman8863 11 месяцев назад +1

    Look Nice mate ,very neat.
    Press fit looks a bit cumbersome to me (I am not a plumber, leave to people who know👍)compared to solderimg.
    How do you know what joint has been done, Mark ?
    I would have to be putting a mark on it mate.
    Especially has I can't remember what I did 5 min ago😢😢.

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 месяцев назад +1

      I always press them as I go along…. Same as soldering, I’ve always done it as it goes in.
      Some fittings have a seal that only comes off when it’s been pressed

  • @b1h2u3p4
    @b1h2u3p4 11 месяцев назад +1

    Nice job

  • @johndevlin980
    @johndevlin980 11 месяцев назад +1

    I still get the feeling you are not sold on the press fit Mark, your face tells a different story 😀 Great video, lovely looking job pal

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 месяцев назад +1

      Yep…. I’m not 100% with it just yet….. don’t think I ever will be.

  • @tirvplumbing
    @tirvplumbing 11 месяцев назад +3

    Good install Mark 👍. Be interesting to see what the initial outlay and running costs are on that electric boiler. Could be a good one to pair up with renewables.
    Good to see the thought process involved in press, all being well I'll be there myself one day after college 😊

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 месяцев назад +5

      Thanks buddy…. This the whole set up fitted was around £4k….including me, sparky and all the materials….. will be waiting to see the running costs in real time

    • @EverydayLife621
      @EverydayLife621 10 месяцев назад

      @@MJTiffPlumbing It would be brilliant to have feedback on the running costs in winter : I have exactly the same dilemma for a house just near you (CV37) with only electric / kero 28 (with a 20 yr old boiler)

  • @joshmannix8173
    @joshmannix8173 11 месяцев назад +3

    Can you see yourself leaning towards it on future jobs? Are you worried about potentially not getting the job because of the cost of the fittings etc, lovely that prv btw 😎👍🏼

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 месяцев назад +5

      No that’s not even crossed my mind as the time it saves is a lot…. Will be doing a video on it very soon

  • @mehdimahmoudinasab9239
    @mehdimahmoudinasab9239 3 месяца назад +1

    Hi, it's a great job. Can you explain more about electric connection ( programmer,room thermostat) please

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  3 месяца назад +1

      That’s one for the sparkies on this job buddy

  • @richardsedorski1206
    @richardsedorski1206 11 месяцев назад

    Great vid running costs will be interesting has the customer got solar panels.👍👍👍😎😎😎

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 месяцев назад

      They will be going in tail end of the year

  • @patrickmurray2220
    @patrickmurray2220 11 месяцев назад +1

    Plus its just good fun to get the oul press gun out. It makes plumbing more fun i think anyway

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 месяцев назад +2

      I takes the skill away from soldering pipes I think…. But it is very easy

    • @patrickmurray2220
      @patrickmurray2220 11 месяцев назад +1

      I think the fittings look class as well

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 месяцев назад +1

      👍🏼

  • @robbo6767
    @robbo6767 11 месяцев назад

    Hi I think the press fittings do look good on a job like that but under a kitchen sink where room can be tight and a lot going on sometimes can look a bit messy so can see you not ditching the blowlamp just yet.
    as i was watching i was thinking do you need the electric boiler to heat the water would it have been better to use a direct cylinder as your using electric to heat water to heat the cylinder anyway? (please don't take as a criticism)

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 месяцев назад

      Yep I know what you mean…. Could of had Direct but as the boiler was going in anyway it made sense to do it this way👍🏼👍🏼

  • @michaeltyler3638
    @michaeltyler3638 11 месяцев назад +1

    What’s the hot flow rate like in the house with a 15mm cold feed Mark? Do they need to plan taking a bath?

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 месяцев назад +1

      12litres a minute at all outlets 👌🏼👌🏼👍🏼👍🏼

  • @michaelbolt4530
    @michaelbolt4530 11 месяцев назад

    Im trying to fathom the pipe schematic for that system, fascinating video

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 месяцев назад +1

      Fairly straight forward…. Pause it and you will work it out👍🏼👍🏼

  • @henryeadie7972
    @henryeadie7972 11 месяцев назад +1

    Do you have to lag all that pipework or does it only apply to new builds?

  • @dw_plumbheat
    @dw_plumbheat 11 месяцев назад

    Lovely job pal, is that your blow-lamp ive seen for sale on ebay?

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 месяцев назад

      Hahahahah…… press is the Next Big Ting apparently

  • @aquaengineering
    @aquaengineering 11 месяцев назад +1

    This position of the pressure gauge under the boiler will further create conditions for an air bubble, and its readings may not be correct. Otherwise, everything is very nice and neat.

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 месяцев назад +2

      It’s just a visual gauge to aid filling as said in the video buddy, there is a digital readout on the boiler (that won’t get air in😉)…… not that big an issue to be honest..

  • @danmcgrath3882
    @danmcgrath3882 10 месяцев назад +1

    Nice neat pipework, but why not just fit a direct cylinder with two immersions? Cheaper, and similar recovery time plus less complexity for the pipework and heating controls, and it means you always get full power for the heating even if the hot tank is calling for heat.

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  10 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks mate….. customer wanted this set up as it’s doing a full heating system aswell so made sense

    • @triax7006
      @triax7006 6 месяцев назад

      The electric will heat the water faster & feed the cylinder & it's pressurised meaning you gain efficiency as the higher the pressure the more heat per KW of electricity (higher pressure = higher temperature). Also no problems with the immersion heater elements going - albeit it means the coil in the electric boiler doing more work & could fail faster. Also as the heating side of the boiler would not be used in the summer it means it would be wasted, whereas as as it is it will be supplying hot water even in summer.

  • @jackgadsden456
    @jackgadsden456 11 месяцев назад +1

    Hi mark ,
    Have you not see the jaws that you press with the jaws on the gun ?

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 месяцев назад +1

      Angle jaws….. yep, they are on order

    • @jackgadsden456
      @jackgadsden456 11 месяцев назад

      @@MJTiffPlumbing can’t wait to see them in action ! 👍🏻

  • @glyndavies591
    @glyndavies591 11 месяцев назад +2

    Tidy job again Mark will be interesting to see if the electric boiler is cheaper than oil has the property got solar panels

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 месяцев назад +2

      Oh it will be mate…. That’s for sure!!!!

  • @MrAbe8
    @MrAbe8 6 месяцев назад

    What’s the prices for something like this.?

  • @lukejackson5747
    @lukejackson5747 3 месяца назад +1

    Would have been miles better putting an up to date low kw oil boiler back in if the infrastructure was already there. Statistically miles cheaper than electric with or without solar pv (which doesnt give you much contribution in the winter months) oil is great if set up properly and not slung in, add in some pipe stats on the return so it doesn’t produce unnecessary heat and they can be so efficient, bizarre to change to electric in the current climate with costs of eleccy.

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  3 месяца назад +1

      Customer is over the moon now he has Solar running it…..

  • @user-dw1ts4xu9p
    @user-dw1ts4xu9p 2 месяца назад

    Once it pressed can you twist it round

  • @peterharper3317
    @peterharper3317 10 месяцев назад +1

    Did they need a 3 phase upgrade for the boiler

  • @sammyb99
    @sammyb99 10 месяцев назад +1

    Brymec for fittings buddy they make and supply them cuts out middle man we use them all time

  • @killerbean9911
    @killerbean9911 11 месяцев назад +2

    I can see you're still not 100% convinced on the press but I'm glad you're being honest about it as always nice little installed that, I've been told you can't have a 15mm cold feed feeding a unvented cylinder, is that true? (not got g3 so no idea myself)

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 месяцев назад +3

      MI say you can on this….. also it’s not feeding balanced cold

    • @killerbean9911
      @killerbean9911 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@MJTiffPlumbing Yeah no problem, just I requested one be installed once and the guy told me that he couldn't unless it was 25mm mdpe and 22mm feed into the cylinder I was confused as hell :P Cheers man, great video as always

  • @gsdevme
    @gsdevme 11 месяцев назад +3

    Odd he didn't go heat pump here though right? would of been alot cheaper to run then an electric combi

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 месяцев назад

      It’s not an electric combi…. It’s heat only👍🏼
      Solar going in in the future

  • @geoffcarlton4047
    @geoffcarlton4047 11 месяцев назад

    How quickly do you get a hot flow from the tap? Seems like a long way to travel.

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 месяцев назад +1

      About 5seconds at the kitchen tap…….. not an issue at all

  • @jkplumbs
    @jkplumbs 11 месяцев назад +1

    Who do you register the unvented cylinder through? Because it's not gas or oil heat source you can't register it through gas safe or oftec. Which governing body do you use?... kind regards John....

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 месяцев назад +1

      NAPIT and I can sign it off as I have my G3 Unvented…… otherwise just get a local building inspector out and they can do it if your not part of a governing body👍🏼👍🏼

    • @martinwright7093
      @martinwright7093 11 месяцев назад

      I don’t know a way of doing it. Building control aren’t interested in my area, I’m GasSafe registered but that’s no good, not NAPIT registered so basically if can’t be done but ultimately, who cares…

  • @kamsubhani8565
    @kamsubhani8565 11 месяцев назад

    Great video. Just curious which boiler cost more to run, Electric or Gas. Im assuming electric because of the cost per unit or Kwh.

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 месяцев назад

      I would assume electric aswell…. However this customer does not have gas in and was using oil

    • @tomplumb7754
      @tomplumb7754 11 месяцев назад

      A well setup condensing oil boiler when you look at cost per KWh and efficiency.
      Direct electricity is great when used directly!

  • @JDHIB
    @JDHIB 5 месяцев назад +1

    Hi mate just wondering how comes you skip the parts of you installing the pipe work. I know it's more time consuming but not everyone can learn on site so just wondering if you do and keep them separate or what's the deal is really

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  5 месяцев назад +2

      Just the way I filmed this job, some jobs I show more like the latest house renovation one

    • @JDHIB
      @JDHIB 5 месяцев назад

      @@MJTiffPlumbing okay cheers ill have a look thank you💯👑

  • @CoolMusicToMyEars
    @CoolMusicToMyEars 5 месяцев назад

    Electric boiler is good if you have solar PV & go Off-Grid with batteries, I was told by Octopus 🐙 Energy if you have a smart meter you can save by Not using electricity on peak times, as they have a hot water tank they can charge that up Off-peak times👍I know Victron Energy make nice reliable Solar PV systems

  • @dereksimpson4778
    @dereksimpson4778 10 месяцев назад +1

    hows the running costs for the electric bioler i believe they are very expensive to run, had any feedback from the customer ? Nice video though well explained

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  10 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks mate, they have said it’s a lot cheaper than the oil fired combi boiler they had in

    • @dereksimpson4778
      @dereksimpson4778 10 месяцев назад

      @@MJTiffPlumbing right ok but i guess compared to gas they are more expensive, thanks for the reply

  • @MHandP
    @MHandP 10 месяцев назад

    Looks like this cylinders coil return is before the heating return. The coil return should be the last T back to the boiler

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  10 месяцев назад +1

      It’s a pre-plumbed cylinder mate…👍🏼

  • @Paulo-fr3xm
    @Paulo-fr3xm 7 месяцев назад

    hi buddy, just dropped on your video, i am at the point where my old gas boiler has pretty much died. The gas main is being renewed in the st. I am thinking about having it disconnected, save on a gas standing charge. To fit an electric boiler, but don't know much about these. Any thoughts??

    • @triax7006
      @triax7006 6 месяцев назад

      I am in the same position. Gas boiler finally packed up & thinking of an electric combi & as I only have 5 radiators & no need for a bath as a shower can be supplied via the combi with the option of an electric shower fitted as well it seems ditching gas would be apt. They do cost more to run, however no need for servicing as regards to the gas & if the gas was ditched saving on the standard charge as you also pointed out. The only downside would be no heat or hot water if there was a power cut, not been an issue but it is nice to have the alternative just in case but not a deal breaker.

    • @grimawormtongue2014
      @grimawormtongue2014 2 месяца назад

      Hi, did you get the electric boiler? And did you get your gas disconnected?

    • @Paulo-fr3xm
      @Paulo-fr3xm 2 месяца назад

      @@grimawormtongue2014 hi, well long story really, they stopped replacing the gas main in the st and disappeared and not been back since. No information, typical shit utility company. Done a lot of research and a conversation with a trade friend. But the numbers just didn't stack up TBH. Boilers were around the same money but electric was 2 years warranty and the A rated gas boiler was 10 year warranty, so no brainer really. Had a whole system revamp in the end. Best move, lovely and warm and saving around £40 a month with the new gas system.

  • @ImHowardMoonsir1
    @ImHowardMoonsir1 11 месяцев назад

    What was the performance of those radiators once heated up vs a gas boiler?

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 месяцев назад

      To be honest, they were slightly better than the oil fired combi that was in

    • @tomplumb7754
      @tomplumb7754 11 месяцев назад

      Itll be the same. A kw is a kw wherever it comes from. The difference is how its produced and at what cost. More interesting is why indirectly heat HW with electricity when directly heating the water has no loss across the boiler HEX and the HW coil.
      Im sorry to say not much thought has gone into this.

    • @migsteele
      @migsteele 8 месяцев назад

      @@tomplumb7754you can heat the hot water on night time electricity which is cheaper with certain tariffs.
      So having a heat only electric boiler will actually help as they will save on the hot water.
      I live in an electric only property and we use a heat battery, charged on cheap night time rates (I use octopus go) and we spend about £7-8 per month for all hot water.
      All direct electric.
      For heating we use air conditioning.

  • @adrianhoneybill8591
    @adrianhoneybill8591 11 месяцев назад +1

    Be useful to hear about the running costs over a 12 month period.

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 месяцев назад

      Yer hopefully I will be able to find out

  • @neo_265
    @neo_265 11 месяцев назад +1

    Rented a house with an electric boiler......very expensive to run and it didnt modulate......it's just full on or off. A properly specced air source heat pump is the way to go if you want electric heating, on milder days they can cost 5 times less than an standard electric boiler. Only problem is they are mega expensive at the moment and lots of negative press due to cowboy installations.

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 месяцев назад

      This boiler is going to be so much cheaper to run than what they had….. been in a week or so now and customer loves it

    • @neo_265
      @neo_265 11 месяцев назад

      @@MJTiffPlumbing wait until winter when the heating costs then £30 - £40 per day to run.

  • @fiercefix
    @fiercefix 10 месяцев назад +1

    7 k a year electrical bill here we come. Unless they have some other plan . This is like using a petrol generator to top up an electric vehicle battery. Insanity! Nice pipework & quick at it.

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  10 месяцев назад +1

      You will be MASSIVELY surprised when I do an update video as to what they are using 😉👍🏼

  • @reliabill87
    @reliabill87 4 месяца назад +1

    Can you not show how you wired up the hewting system? That would be the mosy important part

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  3 месяца назад +1

      The cylinder was pre wired and the sparkies did all the other work…..

  • @SuperWayneyb
    @SuperWayneyb 11 месяцев назад +1

    🤘😎🤘

  • @ads7468
    @ads7468 10 месяцев назад +1

    Can i ask electric boiler with immersion water tank or gas boiler efficiency?

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  10 месяцев назад +2

      So many things to take into account to be honest mate

  • @MrBridles
    @MrBridles 9 месяцев назад +1

    Are you going to do a follow up?

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  9 месяцев назад +1

      In what way?

    • @MrBridles
      @MrBridles 9 месяцев назад

      @@MJTiffPlumbing on how it runs is it cheap, can you tie it into solar panels?

  • @peterharper3317
    @peterharper3317 10 месяцев назад +1

    What happens if a press fit leaks

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  10 месяцев назад +1

      Same as if a soldered joint leaks

  • @Magdalene777
    @Magdalene777 4 месяца назад +1

    What is the operating cost of the boiler vs individual electric resistance heaters?

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  Месяц назад +2

      That’s a whole other video

    • @Magdalene777
      @Magdalene777 Месяц назад

      @@MJTiffPlumbing do you have a video for that?

  • @ismaelpedro1938
    @ismaelpedro1938 11 месяцев назад

    Why do u need by-pass next to the tank?

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 месяцев назад +1

      Was preplumbed into the cylinder

    • @MHandP
      @MHandP 10 месяцев назад

      To protect the zone valves and pump, if zone valves shut and pumps pumping into closed valves will nacker them. Bypass opens an open circuit to get rid of pressure behind valves

  • @Macrobish
    @Macrobish 11 месяцев назад +6

    Sorry, don’t like press fit. Never used it but I don’t like the look of it or the idea of squeezing the thing together - seems dodgy! How do you disassemble? I’d rather use push fit to save time

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 месяцев назад +13

      Give it a try before saying you don’t like it….
      I was dead against it 12 months ago but I’m using it to show you all what it’s like

  • @CoolMusicToMyEars
    @CoolMusicToMyEars 5 месяцев назад

    Crimping is OK But maybe a nightmare to remove ? especially in a narrow space, the other thing you NEED is power to charge batteries for that crimper, so No electric on site back to compression or Yorkshire fittings, I'm not a plumber by trade, although plumb in a kitchen bathroom >25 years ago, my trade is aerospace - defence hardware verification qualification engineer, electronics mechanical hardware, inpressed with the electric boiler, will the pipes be lagged as an outside unit from main house?

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  4 месяца назад

      Charge the batteries and it’s not an issue…. They last ages

  • @user-ju1zd5dt2g
    @user-ju1zd5dt2g 11 месяцев назад +1

    The noise the press fit gun makes would drive me mad.
    Mark the potable water expansion vessel does not pressurise the system or force any water out, it’s role is take up the expansion of the water when it is heated, as the system is sealed the expanding water needs to go somewhere

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 месяцев назад +1

      I know that buddy…… that’s why it’s called an expansion vessel👍🏼👍🏼…..
      Sometimes when your filming you get the odd word mixed up…..

  • @multiworx
    @multiworx 11 месяцев назад +1

    I swear i have just watched an upload from Petrol Ped about living with an Audi RS3, and you were sat in front of him about 12mins into it?

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 месяцев назад +2

      Indeed you would……. 😉😉
      If you listen to there Podcast you will hear a bit more about me aswell😉…… You will be surprised who I know😝

  • @jasonbrooksbank
    @jasonbrooksbank 11 месяцев назад +1

    You have stopped marking your fitting up. What's the difference in cost.

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 месяцев назад +2

      Nope…. Still marking them, may miss the odd one.
      Will be doing a video about time and costs very soon

  • @carltaylor621
    @carltaylor621 11 месяцев назад

    No expansion vessel or prv on heating circuit

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 месяцев назад +3

      If you listen and watch the video you will hear that the expansion vessel and PRV is in the boiler……

  • @staciesims9339
    @staciesims9339 11 месяцев назад +1

    The best thing you can do with a firebird boiler is rip it out, horrendous things , there is some value in the burner though

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 месяцев назад +2

      Exactly what happened

    • @staciesims9339
      @staciesims9339 11 месяцев назад +1

      Love your work btw always pride in your work

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 месяцев назад +2

      Thanks mate, appriciate that👍🏼👍🏼

  • @pauladriandavies3840
    @pauladriandavies3840 11 месяцев назад +4

    Push fit are ok but and are for amateurs , Then when the ceiling comes in your insurance company will not pay out .I have been using press fit for 30 years having been introduced to it in Germany.I have used this up to 105 mm . Do your due diligence. And you will not set anyone’s house on fire using a gas torch.( Paul ,Paramount plumbing )59years in the trade all over the World on multi million jobs.
    G

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 месяцев назад +2

      👍🏼👍🏼

    • @delboy6384
      @delboy6384 11 месяцев назад

      Push fit for amateurs?
      I will show what an amateur is.

    • @pauladriandavies3840
      @pauladriandavies3840 11 месяцев назад

      @@MJTiffPlumbing Great install Marky Mark. Looks great and good to see you are getting used to it.
      I have a major heating refurb on a school starting on the 24th. All in carbon steel and using pressfit. As no naked flames or sparks .

  • @kevinisaac9139
    @kevinisaac9139 10 месяцев назад +2

    great job mark but I have to disagree saying the electric boiler will be cheaper to run than the oil electric is far more expensive than oil to run if he had replaced that with a new oil boiler a lot cheaper I am an oil engineer and I have fitted these boilers min 10 kw to feed them he will have big ills I know they modulate when they come up to temp and use less kw but because electricity is so expensive I think he will regret having it we have had oil for over 30 yrs and is cheaper than my electric bill to run

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  10 месяцев назад +2

      Thanks mate…
      Time will tell, he’s monitoring it and at the moment a month in and it’s saving him money so far…… I will keep an eye on it

    • @kevinisaac9139
      @kevinisaac9139 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@MJTiffPlumbing ok Mark thanks for getting back

  • @user-dw1ts4xu9p
    @user-dw1ts4xu9p 2 месяца назад

    Expensive machine

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  2 месяца назад

      Now coupled up with solar so it’s working well for him

  • @migsteele
    @migsteele 8 месяцев назад +1

    If it wasn’t for the cost of electricity vs gas, these boilers would be everywhere. They’re simple, cheap, don’t have to worry about explosive gases or venting off exhaust.
    Maybe with solar and batteries this might be a better solution than a heat pump…
    Of course a heat pump would be more efficient, but given an electric boiler is 1/10th the cost, better to put that extra in solar and batteries and offset your usage with cheap night time electricity.

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  8 месяцев назад +1

      Solar going in to this job very soon😉

    • @triax7006
      @triax7006 6 месяцев назад

      Kind of makes a mockery of the CO2 debate doesn't it? If climate change was an actual issue then they would make gas the same price as electric & people would ditch all gas supply from their homes especially as electric is 100% efficient with regard to heating & yet they are burning gas to generate electricity.

  • @johnnyfandango1625
    @johnnyfandango1625 10 месяцев назад +2

    An electric setup will not usually save money unless you have a PV and battery setup. One Litre of oil at say 60 pence per L gives 10KWh of heat. One kWh of electric gives 1 kWh of heat at say 40 pence. The oil setup will be say 90 % efficient where the electric is 100% efficient. The electric setup will cost significantly more to run. Time will tell.

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  10 месяцев назад +1

      Indeed it will…. A month in and it’s saving him money so it’s working for him

  • @gasrite.
    @gasrite. 11 месяцев назад +1

    Bet it was a nightmare lagging all that pipe work

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 месяцев назад +2

      Tricky is how I like to say it….🤣🤣

    • @gasrite.
      @gasrite. 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@MJTiffPlumbing 😂🤣😂

  • @paulhughes8724
    @paulhughes8724 10 месяцев назад +1

    More like wait until all the orings start leaking😊

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  10 месяцев назад +1

      Tried and tested over the last 20years….. not really an issue

    • @paulhughes8724
      @paulhughes8724 10 месяцев назад

      @@MJTiffPlumbing Yeah of course they have

  • @Saminavloginuk
    @Saminavloginuk 2 месяца назад +1

    Same problem my home no hot witer no heating

  • @Jeff-bg7pt
    @Jeff-bg7pt 11 месяцев назад +2

    Two 5' old told me the very same 😅

  • @nickcollins7568
    @nickcollins7568 11 месяцев назад +1

    A good job that cylinder was empty or you would have been sweating

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 месяцев назад +2

      Exactly my point buddy 👍🏼👍🏼

  • @bernieclark7143
    @bernieclark7143 11 месяцев назад

    Press fit or push fit you are relying on an o'ring that will perish over time, I used to work for a leak detection company and I have seen several leaks due to failed o'rings,

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 месяцев назад +1

      “Several leaks”……. That’s amazing considering that press has been out for 20 plus years….. just goes to show how good it is👍🏼👍🏼