Xiom Vega Pro's descedant the Vega X is the Tensor rubber with the best price to quality ratio right now. Performance is high end while price is low end.
@@halleberry123 Did a switch from Vega Pro 1.8 to Vega X 1.8 recently, and thinking I'm gonna switch back to Pro because X has been giving me some slips if I didn't engage the sponge. Pro I could brush the ball with microscopic levels of contact and it would connect and send crazy spin
Great video. Personally, I have an Andro Treiber CI off with Yasaka Rakza Z on backhand and Nittaku Fastarc G1 on the forehand. Found it to be a great combination, only issue so far is the weight.
Try Palio Ak47 rubbers guys. Red, yellow or blue. You will never want anything else. They are much cheaper but provide very good spin, speed and control. You can get 2-3 ak47 for the price of 1 mxp
Hey, it's a nice surprise that someone is mentioning that! I have been using Palio AK-47 Blue sponge (38°-40°) on both FH/BH for several years now. I got it from Aliexpress back when it was still operating in India. I use Sanwei Fextra 7 blade. The entire setup was dirt cheap (got 7ply blade+rubbers under 2.5k inr back in 2019). Ak47 rubbers are very durable and high performing rubbers and surprise me to this day. I have an aggressive game with lots of top-spin, looping and chops and AK47 rubbers perform wonderfully. I am currently looking for an upgrade to them which landed me on this video.
@@theBartSimpson you might want to try DHS neo hurricane 3 on FH. I am currently using this + AK47 red on BH with GKI arylate carbon blade. Works well for aggressive game. Bit sensitive for control but gets the job done.
Good review. I'm currently (finally) using Tenergy 05 red, and Dignics 05 black. I had been told I would probably have an issue with control but I have not found that to be the case at all. I had been using Andro Rasanter 53,42 which I liked (and still like).
Mxp is faster and amazing for blocking and driving but poor for looping. Mxp is also the heaviest rubber. T05 amazing for looping but difficult to control in passive shots due to high spin sensitivity. Rozena is very spin insensitive but feels quite dead compared to other rubbers. It takes away the joy of spinning and feeling the ball but it's great at negating others spin.
I feel like the yasaka rakza 7 and X are also extremely good alternatives to Tenergy 05. I have rakza 7 soft on my backhand and it is amazing, the X and Z are supposed to be great for forehand but I havenet tried them yet. I am a diehard Hurricane 3 user on my forehand, Chinese technique is just so much superior.
Those differences you mentioned is literally what makes T05 the rubber it is. That being said, I don't think everyone would like T05, but rather a more balanced or simply toned down rubber in some of the departments might suit some players better. For example, chopping was pretty horrible on Timo Boll ALC + T05 2mm. Whereas, Vega Pro is good to chop with, as well as all the other things, albeit less feeling. Also Vega Pro has a pretty unique arc on topspin. Vega Pro doesn't engage/lock the ball like T05 does, for that look into omega series, all omega V rubbers has that lock/engage type of feel on the ball (don't know about omega 7). I don't think vpro is factory boosted, but tibhar evolution series is heavily boosted, so it'll wear out in a couple months and you'll have a different rubber afterwards.
Having played multiple sheets of MXP, I can’t recommend it due to its short lifespan. Playing 2x a week, that rubber lasted up to 3 months before it loses its performance. Pros play with it because they get free sheets and won’t have this durability issue.
@@Waingro808 I love G1 exactly because lack of catapult effect. I learned my forehand technique with chinese tacky rubbers, so I prefer rubbers generating lineral power.
I used G-1 on the my backhand for 2 years now. I loved it. It does not have catapult effect. I used MXP and Tenergy 05/64 so I can attest to that. G-1 is very direct. Excellent blocking. It goes where you want to go. I mean, that's what you want for your backhand, right? control. The top sheet also stays sticky for a long long time. Very good for your budget. I left table tennis for six months and I restarted last week again, going to the club regularly. I am now trying Tenergy 05 fx and it is so easy to loop with it (compared to G1)! So I am going to stick with that for a while. So whichever rubber you want to choose depends on what kind of style you want to play with. Tenergy 05 is hard to control though.
I think the EL-S is the closest to the Tenergy 05 (in speed, spin, trajectory and feeling) in the Evolution family. Nowadays tons of rubbers offer similar or even better performance than the T05. You can choose nearly any of the rubbers around 40$ and you are just fine. Some are spinnier, some are easier to use, some are faster, your choice. Most likely you will adjust to it anyway.
@@Waingro808 I would strongly argue that. Professionals and youth players in my club have to change them in roughly the same cycle. Some rubbers wear out faster, but most of them not really.
Life span of EL-S is pretty good and better then MXP. However the weakness of EL-S is that the sponge bottoms out when hitting hard. Shouldn’t be much of a problem for backhands, but a no for my forehand. T05 or MXP does not have this bottoming out issue.
The Vega Pro follow up Vega X has an awesome darability. The modern topsheet is great and even after 150h playtime its still pretty spinny. If you buy 2 per year the costs are still lower than buyin 1 T05
played the tenergy for years, than the mxp, but to be honest, the most powerfull rubber without tuning that ive ever played is the rasanter r53 by andro.
I found Rozena to be too bouncy. Bad control for me. I prefer Dignics 05 on my backhand and Hurricane 3 on my forehand. Viscaria ALC. I'm gonna try regular Tenergy 05 on my other Viscaria though and see if I like it better than Hurricane 3.
Well I think there is no identical twin for tenergy 0.5 in all aspects, but it's a fact that there are several good rubbers (like an option) there on the market depending on the player. As the mentioned mx-p that I've tried and I liked a lot. I also like: Victas v 15 extra, gewo nexxus and evolution mx-d. All these are fine for me,but I still have tenergies 0.5 on both forehand and backhand in my paddle. 😂😂😂 But when I'll need to buy new rubbers I'll change... I'll have to choose among the rubbers I mentioned above because tenergy is too expensive nowadays (I think 😭)
What about Andro Rubbers in comparison? I am using MXP currently and looking to shift to something with similar power but something that gives more control and spin.
Hurricane 3 neo isn't really an alternative to 05 it's a completely different kind of rubber generally requiring a slightly different technique to use. It has advantages over tenergy 05 in different ways
Tenergy 05 much too bouncy for my liking and way too difficult to make short chops. Vega pro i absolutely hated at first, but after brake in super good. Very grippy, not too fast, good short game very controllable. FH rubber. Backhand vega europe. On viscaria. I finally found my perfect setup. After long search with lots of bats and rubbers.
Yeah, i thought so too. G1 FH, vega pro BH. Good, but eventually changed to vega pro FH and vega euro BH. On viscaria. Perfect combination for me.vega pro is just a bit easier to engage than g1 in my opinion, with little higher and shorter arc. And vega europe is, of course, a lot softer but very grippy and linear. I think, vega pro and europe come with little booster effect and just need a little "brake-in" to really shine. They will last long.
Hi Kush, I landed here because I was looking for tenergy 05 alternatives. I currently have a 10 year old Jonyer H FL blade with Yasaka Mark V rubber. I plan on using the same blade and wanted to use Tenergy 05, but was not sure if this would be a right fit and wanted to look for alternatives. your video helped a lot. I currently plan on mxp for both sides ( though i feel like I need more power on backend side ). what do you think about this. TIA
Well Butterfly is just unreasonable expensive .... I really don't like that brand at all especially as most of the Rubbers aren't even that good for non professional players ... Only Butterfly Rubber which was "good" in my opinion was the Sriver fx, everything else (for me) was crap. I could try the Dignigs a while ago and yeah that thing was great but the price wasn't anywhere near good at all. I got myself one of the Rasanter Rubbers, they are incredibly good (sadly also very expensive) also you can see how good those are at creating spin when you watch Adam Bobrow who is using them.
It's more like its a sport that can be done with low,medium or high budget. I bought a Timo Boll Spirit Alc that was 130 and then I bought the rubbers which one of them was 90 us dollars which is a Dignics o9c and the other one was a Tenergy o5 which was 75 dollars. just to make myself clear, I'm not saying that that you have to get the most pricey u can get your equipment depending on what you are looking for and your budget.
@@hokeekeng2166 I mean, kind of... My budget is med high so like I said haha. I have to buy new rubbers every 4 months and remember that you also have to get shoes to comfortable aswell Its gets kinda expensive depending of what you want and your budget. 😅
@@hokeekeng2166 honestly, paying for even a 20 dollar rubber once a year and 200 or so on a blade is already decntly expensive. More expensive than buying soccer or basket ball shoes to be honest. Keeping in mind that most competitive players need to spend 50-120 on a rubber a every 3-6 months as they train everyday
@@Lynx-yq3sb ;) Most importantly is to get the right and suitable ones. Due to the nature of the Balls (Plastic non jumping ones) Technology keep changing and rubber and racket makers are coming out with new designs. So it is rather hard to not keep changing for the next 3-4 years if you are regularly playing and comfort and good skill u are aiming for. Nothing about budget but the Ball and Technology changing let alone age and physic of a person.
Xiom Vega Pro's descedant the Vega X is the Tensor rubber with the best price to quality ratio right now. Performance is high end while price is low end.
I am using Vega X FH and Vega Europe BH currently in 2.0 and 1.8 thickness. I'm thinking to go for X max and Europe 2.0 next time.
I think, the Pro is the better choice. Vega x is good but pro is more stable.
Vega rubbers tend to let the ball slip off.
@@halleberry123 Did a switch from Vega Pro 1.8 to Vega X 1.8 recently, and thinking I'm gonna switch back to Pro because X has been giving me some slips if I didn't engage the sponge. Pro I could brush the ball with microscopic levels of contact and it would connect and send crazy spin
@@romanzapata5511 I find that pro is better on forehand and Vega X is better for my backhand
Simple and dense video again with loads of information, thank you!
Great video. Personally, I have an Andro Treiber CI off with Yasaka Rakza Z on backhand and Nittaku Fastarc G1 on the forehand. Found it to be a great combination, only issue so far is the weight.
Try Palio Ak47 rubbers guys. Red, yellow or blue. You will never want anything else. They are much cheaper but provide very good spin, speed and control.
You can get 2-3 ak47 for the price of 1 mxp
Hi Shreyas,
Where did u get Palio rubbers in India?
Hey, it's a nice surprise that someone is mentioning that!
I have been using Palio AK-47 Blue sponge (38°-40°) on both FH/BH for several years now.
I got it from Aliexpress back when it was still operating in India.
I use Sanwei Fextra 7 blade.
The entire setup was dirt cheap (got 7ply blade+rubbers under 2.5k inr back in 2019).
Ak47 rubbers are very durable and high performing rubbers and surprise me to this day.
I have an aggressive game with lots of top-spin, looping and chops and AK47 rubbers perform wonderfully.
I am currently looking for an upgrade to them which landed me on this video.
@@theBartSimpson you might want to try DHS neo hurricane 3 on FH.
I am currently using this + AK47 red on BH with GKI arylate carbon blade. Works well for aggressive game. Bit sensitive for control but gets the job done.
@@doctordhiraj currently you don't since govt. Banned Aliexpress. You need to import it through intermediate PO box. Too much hassle.
Hi! Can you do a similar video about Dignics 05?
Good review. I'm currently (finally) using Tenergy 05 red, and Dignics 05 black. I had been told I would probably have an issue with control but I have not found that to be the case at all. I had been using Andro Rasanter 53,42 which I liked (and still like).
Mxp is faster and amazing for blocking and driving but poor for looping. Mxp is also the heaviest rubber. T05 amazing for looping but difficult to control in passive shots due to high spin sensitivity. Rozena is very spin insensitive but feels quite dead compared to other rubbers. It takes away the joy of spinning and feeling the ball but it's great at negating others spin.
THANKYOU FOR SHARE THIS VIDEO❤
I feel like the yasaka rakza 7 and X are also extremely good alternatives to Tenergy 05. I have rakza 7 soft on my backhand and it is amazing, the X and Z are supposed to be great for forehand but I havenet tried them yet. I am a diehard Hurricane 3 user on my forehand, Chinese technique is just so much superior.
Those differences you mentioned is literally what makes T05 the rubber it is. That being said, I don't think everyone would like T05, but rather a more balanced or simply toned down rubber in some of the departments might suit some players better. For example, chopping was pretty horrible on Timo Boll ALC + T05 2mm. Whereas, Vega Pro is good to chop with, as well as all the other things, albeit less feeling. Also Vega Pro has a pretty unique arc on topspin. Vega Pro doesn't engage/lock the ball like T05 does, for that look into omega series, all omega V rubbers has that lock/engage type of feel on the ball (don't know about omega 7). I don't think vpro is factory boosted, but tibhar evolution series is heavily boosted, so it'll wear out in a couple months and you'll have a different rubber afterwards.
Feel the same about Butterfly Rozana in its blocking characters.
Very helpful. I'm playing the MXP at the moment but wan't to try something else but similar. Seems the Vega Pro is a good candidate.
I have a Yasaka Raksa 7 on Matsushita Pro Defender blade (Old Model) and this feel good to chop & attack.
Having played multiple sheets of MXP, I can’t recommend it due to its short lifespan. Playing 2x a week, that rubber lasted up to 3 months before it loses its performance. Pros play with it because they get free sheets and won’t have this durability issue.
So what you recommend as per your experience sir? Thanks in advance!
Nice.
Have you tried nittaku fastarc g-1 ?
Not included in the list because it doesn’t have the catapult effect which is a strong selling point of tenergy
@@kushbaveja Correct, G1 has zero catapult, so not really a substitute. But it does have a high throw angle when you hit into the sponge though.
@@Waingro808 I love G1 exactly because lack of catapult effect. I learned my forehand technique with chinese tacky rubbers, so I prefer rubbers generating lineral power.
I used G-1 on the my backhand for 2 years now. I loved it. It does not have catapult effect. I used MXP and Tenergy 05/64 so I can attest to that. G-1 is very direct. Excellent blocking. It goes where you want to go. I mean, that's what you want for your backhand, right? control. The top sheet also stays sticky for a long long time. Very good for your budget. I left table tennis for six months and I restarted last week again, going to the club regularly. I am now trying Tenergy 05 fx and it is so easy to loop with it (compared to G1)! So I am going to stick with that for a while. So whichever rubber you want to choose depends on what kind of style you want to play with. Tenergy 05 is hard to control though.
I really like this vid, thanks !
I think the EL-S is the closest to the Tenergy 05 (in speed, spin, trajectory and feeling) in the Evolution family. Nowadays tons of rubbers offer similar or even better performance than the T05. You can choose nearly any of the rubbers around 40$ and you are just fine. Some are spinnier, some are easier to use, some are faster, your choice. Most likely you will adjust to it anyway.
T05 lasts twice as long as any German rubber, so price is basically the same.
@@Waingro808 I would strongly argue that. Professionals and youth players in my club have to change them in roughly the same cycle. Some rubbers wear out faster, but most of them not really.
Life span of EL-S is pretty good and better then MXP. However the weakness of EL-S is that the sponge bottoms out when hitting hard. Shouldn’t be much of a problem for backhands, but a no for my forehand. T05 or MXP does not have this bottoming out issue.
Andro Hexer powergrip is really good too...
Andro R-45 has a nice kick at the end it drops hard...I replaced the Hexer with it..
Vega Pro is decent, but the topsheet is not durable at all. T05 topsheet keeps its grip at least 4x longer, so factor that into the price.
I have the opposite experience. Vega Pro lasts longer for me.
The Vega Pro follow up Vega X has an awesome darability. The modern topsheet is great and even after 150h playtime its still pretty spinny. If you buy 2 per year the costs are still lower than buyin 1 T05
played the tenergy for years, than the mxp, but to be honest, the most powerfull rubber without tuning that ive ever played is the rasanter r53 by andro.
I think Rasanter R48 is the safest intermediate choice for both forehand and backhand.
I found Rozena to be too bouncy. Bad control for me. I prefer Dignics 05 on my backhand and Hurricane 3 on my forehand. Viscaria ALC. I'm gonna try regular Tenergy 05 on my other Viscaria though and see if I like it better than Hurricane 3.
Well I think there is no identical twin for tenergy 0.5 in all aspects, but it's a fact that there are several good rubbers (like an option) there on the market depending on the player. As the mentioned mx-p that I've tried and I liked a lot. I also like: Victas v 15 extra, gewo nexxus and evolution mx-d. All these are fine for me,but I still have tenergies 0.5 on both forehand and backhand in my paddle. 😂😂😂
But when I'll need to buy new rubbers I'll change... I'll have to choose among the rubbers I mentioned above because tenergy is too expensive nowadays (I think 😭)
Yeah I agree
What about Andro Rubbers in comparison? I am using MXP currently and looking to shift to something with similar power but something that gives more control and spin.
Vega Pro is a great option for that
@@kushbaveja what about rasanter ?
Best alternative when it comes to arc and touch : DHS H3 Neo tuned in domestic quality and Nittaku Fastarc G1. At least for me.
Hurricane 3 neo isn't really an alternative to 05 it's a completely different kind of rubber generally requiring a slightly different technique to use. It has advantages over tenergy 05 in different ways
Lol h3 neo altẻnates for T05 😂 you high?
Tenergy 05 much too bouncy for my liking and way too difficult to make short chops. Vega pro i absolutely hated at first, but after brake in super good. Very grippy, not too fast, good short game very controllable. FH rubber. Backhand vega europe. On viscaria. I finally found my perfect setup. After long search with lots of bats and rubbers.
G1 is also a good choice 👍
Yeah, i thought so too. G1 FH, vega pro BH. Good, but eventually changed to vega pro FH and vega euro BH. On viscaria. Perfect combination for me.vega pro is just a bit easier to engage than g1 in my opinion, with little higher and shorter arc. And vega europe is, of course, a lot softer but very grippy and linear. I think, vega pro and europe come with little booster effect and just need a little "brake-in" to really shine. They will last long.
Dignics05 is the one that you need though 😉
Good video 😊
Thanks for the visit
Hi Kush,
I landed here because I was looking for tenergy 05 alternatives. I currently have a 10 year old Jonyer H FL blade with Yasaka Mark V rubber. I plan on using the same blade and wanted to use Tenergy 05, but was not sure if this would be a right fit and wanted to look for alternatives. your video helped a lot.
I currently plan on mxp for both sides ( though i feel like I need more power on backend side ). what do you think about this. TIA
Btw mxp lasts like 6 months playing 3 times a week.
@@JohnDoe-ie8cy what are my other options in this case ?
Vega Pro - T05
Vega Europe - T64
2x Good Price!😉🤘
I thought t64 is more equivalent to vega asia than vega europe
Nice Video but Audio is much to quiet
It is 99% player's ability and 1% equipment.
Well Butterfly is just unreasonable expensive .... I really don't like that brand at all especially as most of the Rubbers aren't even that good for non professional players ...
Only Butterfly Rubber which was "good" in my opinion was the Sriver fx, everything else (for me) was crap. I could try the Dignigs a while ago and yeah that thing was great but the price wasn't anywhere near good at all.
I got myself one of the Rasanter Rubbers, they are incredibly good (sadly also very expensive) also you can see how good those are at creating spin when you watch Adam Bobrow who is using them.
What about yasaka rakza z?
Rakza Z is a sticky hybrid rubber so the way you would use it is slightly different to Tenergy and I wouldn’t call it an alternative to Tenergy 05
put it this way vega pro>tenergy
Nothing is quicker than tenergy 05.
It is quite fast!
does that mean table tennis is a cheap sport?
It's more like its a sport that can be done with low,medium or high budget. I bought a Timo Boll Spirit Alc that was 130 and then I bought the rubbers which one of them was 90 us dollars which is a Dignics o9c and the other one was a Tenergy o5 which was 75 dollars. just to make myself clear, I'm not saying that that you have to get the most pricey u can get your equipment depending on what you are looking for and your budget.
@@Lynx-yq3sb then used for 1 year. in summary, it is just a cheap sport.
@@hokeekeng2166 I mean, kind of... My budget is med high so like I said haha. I have to buy new rubbers every 4 months and remember that you also have to get shoes to comfortable aswell Its gets kinda expensive depending of what you want and your budget. 😅
@@hokeekeng2166 honestly, paying for even a 20 dollar rubber once a year and 200 or so on a blade is already decntly expensive. More expensive than buying soccer or basket ball shoes to be honest. Keeping in mind that most competitive players need to spend 50-120 on a rubber a every 3-6 months as they train everyday
@@Lynx-yq3sb ;) Most importantly is to get the right and suitable ones. Due to the nature of the Balls (Plastic non jumping ones) Technology keep changing and rubber and racket makers are coming out with new designs. So it is rather hard to not keep changing for the next 3-4 years if you are regularly playing and comfort and good skill u are aiming for. Nothing about budget but the Ball and Technology changing let alone age and physic of a person.
hi Kush Baveja, do you an email? I would like to talk with you.
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