An important note about the footage shown from my animation at 4:25 in the video, that was my attempt at animating the Roy Mengot breakup theory. I wasn't as familiar with animating at the time and well, things didn't turn out so well.
I also want to point out that if a boiler explosion happened, we would have seen that in any of the boilers found in the aft end of the exposed areas on the bow section or in the debris field. All the boilers found in either location are intact so a boiler explosion is unlikely.
unless the boilers that exploded were in boiler room 3 or 4 which are not exposed. only 1s which are on the ocean floor and 2s which are in the bow section and exploded. the collapse of funnel 2 is supposedly why people think their was a boiler explosion and that was in 3 or 4s room.
This may be true, but I do still believe that the titanic broke underneath the 3rd funnel or just after it witch caused a small boiler explosion. My theory is also backed up by survivor testimonies.
@SaphireTheProtogen True, but they would have definitely still been hot. A rush of cold water against the hot steel of the boilers could crack them. Not sure if they would explode though, because as you said, they were already put out. All of the steam was vented at that time as well, right?
@SaphireTheProtogen yeah I figured I just wasn’t 100% sure. If the steam vents weren’t a thing, there would have been an explosion for sure, since the propellers came to a full stop and the steam had nowhere to go. But since there are the steam vents, an explosion is unlikely. I do agree with you about how the “sound of the boilers exploding” was most likely the ship breaking up under it’s own weight.
Surprisingly, nobody who was on the poop deck at the time (Thomas Patrick Dillon, Frank Prentice and possibly Charles Joughin) said anything about the sound that the ship made as is broke apart. The closest thing to that was Joughin's remark about hearing iron buckle while standing under the aft expansion joint at some point before heading aft.
@@Wolfric_Rogers hello I made a theory,about it ,although mine was lazily done in FlipaClip as I don’t have a professional software ,but it would be neat if u featured mine maybe on the next one ,thanks,Kit Kat107
The sparks are possible, they have to be under the very top deck to not be visible to anyone also to prove my point more is that heavy wires have a large number of volts going through them so when they break they COULD have sparks
most people are forgetting that the fourth funnel was actually a dummy funnel, and the last boiler room was under the third funnel. so, when the titanic broke apart boiler room #1 (which was the last one) would have been instantly swamped. thus, with no steam to power the ship it is unlikely that the power would remain on for very long after the breakup.
This is simultaneously true and false. The fourth funnel didn't vent steam from the boilers, this is true. It was used to vent steam from the kitchens and galleys, as well as being used as a chimney for the only actual fireplace on the ship. It was stated by several passengers, however, that some lights remained on during and even after the breakup. This likely signifies that someone had started the emergency dynamos under the fourth funnel (it's other use was as an air vent for the engine room), which could run on less steam than the ship's main engines and so likely did keep certain lights burning until the very end. There was also the oil lantern on the ship's mainmast that likely didn't go out until it was submerged. So certain lights, especially dim deck lights, staying on is actually probably accurate.
I still don't understand why those who came up with their own theory made some of the lights on the Titanic light up after it split apart, survivors claim that in the final seconds all the lights went out until the Titanic plunged into the sea
Testimonies of some still recalled having lights on after the break, those were the emergency dynamos, or lights, they would stay on for 30s or even a Minute
There was still residual pressure within the system as it doesn't all escape at once unlike compressed air and the dynamos would have retained some spin for a short period of time allowing for the lights to slowly dim off rather than going off all at once. In some rare instances modern systems have acted the same as the case was with the big quake in Japan back in 2011 where parts of the grid went out of synch then gradually flickered out and one can still find videos of this happening here on YT usually from around the Sendai area.
6:04 yes boi, there it is! Ok seriously now, it's incredible to see how many theories exist, most of them following the usual aft expansion joint top-down break theory though. It kinda just makes it feel that we are not even close to discover what really happened when the lights failed that night.
The more popular is that the submerged bow sinks first to the ocean floor, leaving the stern to float for several minutes longer. The forward stern was filled with water, causing it to rise again in the air until it completely sinks.
The giant engines would have INSTANTLY caused a weight inbalance, leaving the stern to be pulled down by the head. Not to mention the break caused many watertight seals and bulkheads to break and twist, leaving them open for water to enter.
@@amaritineenthusiast According to the sources of this theory, the air in the still unsubmerged aft compartments caused the ship to hold for 10-15 minutes like a plug until at some point it began to flood, also the rear half was in a vertical shape and this ensured the ship's frontal balance.
I think people come up with lots of theories when we got all evidence based on the wreck and the eye witnesses accounts , the double bottom pieces are interesting , they both ends are bend looks like they bent agains each other’s which could indicates that they failed first but was still attached slightly , the upper decks and side wall hull was still attached and started to bend heavily and then twisted and broke making the ship separate in half , which was visible by them , the funnels like James Cameron depicted after they fell cuz of the tilt they remained attached till the ship started to dive down pulling all the Davits which are all gone but the forward one in bow wreckage
@@therealspeedwagon1451 u talking about the movie ?? I believe it’s totally wrong , the break up location is located right in front or underneath the 3rd funnel since the bow wreck ain’t long enough to fit 3rd funnel , the angle is also wrong 😑, the movie made it looks like 75 degree 📜 which is way too much for the hull, his 2012 new theory it is close but based on the break line of the aft bow , the mangled twisted steel doesn’t show clean break , it looked like the titanic bent heavily before break up , which in pitch black night not so many saw that .
@@midokhalil1558 I thought the angle for the ship sinking was 45 degrees Then again, some theories claimed the break was at a shallower angle at 11 degrees...
@@jacobaldrich1534 the ship was sinking , the stress point kept changing or moving aft let’s say , it is possible she could have reached 45 and besides the eye witnesses accounts I always put them first , u see when they said it broke in two everyone said it is impossible and it turned out to be possible
3:55 “How do the funnels fall in opposite direction?” The answer for that is extremely simple, the speed of the break up somewhat pushed the 3rd funnel to collapse ahead of it, the funnel was stressed due to the break up anyway. The 4th funnel fell behind it and you already know why.
I honestly agree with the low angle breakup, in “Part-Time Explorer” 5:10 even though it doesn’t make sense for the whole superstructure to completely fail at such a low angle. It can be the only way for nobody to think the ship split in two at the time.
I think the reason people didn’t think it split was because it was so dark. It was a moonless night and the sea was so calm that you couldn’t see anything other than the stars, the lights of the ship, and the reflection of both in the water. Since the power went out only a few moments before the break-up, the survivors would also be subject to night blindness for a minute or two, and the ship would have broke by then. The people say that they heard a boiler explosion, but many people believe that they were only hearing the hull and superstructure fail and come apart. You do have a good point, but I also don’t think the structure would fail at that angle.
I believe the weight of the titanic on the back end is just far to great. The fact all that water is holding down the front and the back being lifted out of the water causes far too much weight displacement. I believe the low angle split happened just that, because it was a low angle split and just tore at the first sign of overload on the back.
@@elyisusking3603 I believe what most people saw was the outline of the ship breaking apart through the stars, since you’d be able to see the black mass that was the ship cover up stars as the stern fell down. I recommend you watch Ocean Liner Design’s video titled ‘What did Titanic’s Break Up Really Look Like?’, it shows pretty clearly what I mean if you didn’t understand what I said. Not a very easy thing to put into words lol
I'm bored so I did this: 00:00 Intro 00:05 Robert Ballard's Theory 1985 00:10 Return to The Titanic Theory 1987 00:15 Titanic James Cameron 1995 00:22 Three Section Break Theory 1998 00:25 Answers From The Abyss Theory 1999 00:42 The Last Mysteries Theory 2004 00:55 Park Stephenson 2005/2006 01:10 Roger Long Theory 2005/2006 01:36 Lost Documentary from 2006 01:49 Roy Mengot Theory 2008 02:03 Boiler Explosion Theory 02:20 Inside The Titanic Theory 2011/2012 02:36 News Direct Theory 2012 02:39 Titanic MiniSeries 2012 02:51 Banana Peel Theory 2012 03:07 OASOG Book Theory 2012 03:28 100 Year Mystery Solved 2013 03:47 Titanic Underwater Break Theory 03:50 THG Real-Time Theory 2016 04:03 Tornado Harry's Theory 04:20 Titanic Animations Theory 04:33 Titanic VR Theory 04:46 THG Final Plunge Theory 2020 04:59 OASOG Part-Time Explorer Theory 2021 05:35 RobloxianX's Theory 05:51 Bugger Filmes Theory 06:05 GamePlayerZ Theory 06:25 Mariner's Mirror Podcast Theory 06:32 Zig-Zag Theory 06:43 ShinGoji's Theory 07:11 Elrond Gasal's Theory 07:31 ADigimonFantastic's Theory 07:42 Jealouse Statement's Theory 08:06 CrusingWay's Theory 08:21 DeclanDude25's Theory 08:27 Montoya2022Gamer's Theory 08:49 Dr. Wacky's Theory 09:05 SpaceP1ckaxe's Theory 09:10 Cris Studios Extra's Theory
I believe the stern rose to about 30 degrees and it broke right in front of the 3rd funnel by about a foot. As the stern falls and hit the water, the funnels fall in opposite directions. The double bottom breaks, and the bow section takes a small bit of the stern superstructure off. The stern lists to port a bit, then the broken part of the stern tilts down, making the back go up. Then it goes down after settling for about 2 seconds. Edit: After a lot of research I revised my breakup theory. It is very similar to ADigimonFanatic.
That’s an interesting theory. There are many different theories about how the Titanic broke up and it’s possible that we may never know exactly what happened. Do you have any evidence to support your theory?
When I was much younger I also thought the James Cameron theory 2012 was how it actually sank (In two pieces) but after all these years it comes to show how many possible ways she could have snapped. Cool video. 👍
Many of those are fantasy representations such as Brugger Filmes that I'd rather not call "theories" as they're more of an artistic view rather than a product of some sort of analysis.
Nice animation you used for it love that the lights have a deep orange/ red colour as claimed by people during the last ten fithteen minutes of the sinking
@@thegamingteen44mc5 he intentionally didn't put V-Break to avoid everyone talking about it, and because Aaron doesn't do anymore Titanic stuff, but doesn't work anyways.
I have no clue of how the breakup occured. But i think it was far less dramatic than what we have seen in movies, documentaries etc, since so few of the survivors claimed to have seen or noticed the break up.
its bc the ship’s steel could not support the excess amount of weight and at a certain point it broke up with the bow (never know it was in a relationship)
@@amtrakdude432 due to the fact that there were so many metal that materially stressed,most of the connections (top to bottom break is double hull, bottom to top is aft tower) broke (the double hull would likely break 10 seconds after the initial breakup itself while the aft tower breaks connection from the bow and falls 5 seconds later from the stern) and the bow sunk to the bottom The stern was pulled when the double hull was still attached which led it sinking likely a minute later, in 30 seconds or 2 whole minutes. If the connecting parts broke off immediately the stern would float more time,
Only cuz it was darker than dark ever has been. It was a moonless night, stars were barely blooming, only a few lights were on, and those that were on were very dim. It was very dramatic
I just randomly made up a theory. The keel fails in the same place as everyone says it did, the hull then fails as well, due to the stress from the unsupported weight, the ship breaks just behind the compass tower, the forward tower becomes unstable breaking off, the aft tower also breaks off, the ship then performs a top cant, causing the forward tower to seem to cave in. Due to the top cant, the forward tower is forced into the deck of back end of the bow, which crushes the compass tower, it somewhat weakens the back-end of the bow, which causes it to collapse upon impact with the sea floor. This also helps explain why we can't find any remains of the compass tower. The bow finally breaks off from the B deck, and it heads for the bottom. The Aft tower also broke off during the top cant. The fourth funnel fell as the stern settled back. The forward and aft tower float out of the water momentarily, they then sink. The stern gains a list to port as the Fourth funnel falls over to port. The ship then goes up to around a 70 degree angle, it then turns 180 degrees as it sinks beneath the waves. Some things may be somewhat stupid, but I literally just made up most of that in my head.
Aft tower should detach from the stern underwater.In the wreck that part is close to the stern.Which means it was last thing to detach from the stern.While Forwars tower is so far.The only way it could end up being there that it detached on surface.
Your mistake is revealed by "The keel fails in the same place as everyone says it did, the hull then fails as well, due to the stress from the unsupported weight". The hull failed first at an expansion joint. All ships of any substantial length are built with expansion joints to allow for slight movement in rough seas, otherwise ships would be breaking apart at an alarming rate. They also have weak spots where large open areas are built. The keel, by design, is the sturdiest part of the ship. It is it's backbone. No ship whose keel is compromised will last for very long. The weight of the unsupported stern section as it rose out of the water caused the expansion joint to have pressure put on it in a manner it was not designed to handle. Once the failure began there was no stopping it. The keel itself failed when it could no longer support both the unsupported stern and the combined weight of the now fully flooded bow section trying to drag the still buoyant stern down with it. Estimates are that the fully flooded bow section weighed somewhere in the neighborhood of 90,000 tons. More than the entire weight of the unflooded Titanic itself. Naturally, neither one of us was there to see it. That is why I prefer to use science, physics, and some knowledge of how ships of this size are constructed.
@@garygemmell3488 I'm not sure if this is implying a James Cameron style split, but the keel, while very sturdy and designed to not violently implode, is not meant to have the strength to pull essentially a third of an ocean liner while bent at such a sharp angle. I think the expansion joints went first, but the sudden bending of the hull due to loss of structure would cause a massive spike of weight (similar to how dropping something on a scale causes it to read much heavier initially), enough to crumple the keel or dramatically send parts of it into the ship. That would leave something like B deck pulling the stern down, which to me sounds a bit more reasonable.
@@3_Circles The only way to know for sure, short of actually being there at the time, would be to examine the both halves of the ship where the keel came apart. That will probably not happen in my lifetime. The exposed keel sections are buried in the silt and exposing them would be a herculean task. The keel is not made of one long section, but a series of smaller, reinforced sections riveted and\or welded together. When it snapped it probably did not do so cleanly. Steel is meant to flex and regain it's shape, but when it is stressed beyond it's breaking point it can take on some really weird shapes. Sometimes it will snap relatively cleanly, other times it will tear and leave jagged edges, and sometimes both will happen. The two things I believe happened is that the bow broke free when the hull rupture reached the keel and that the stern came back on an even keel and then went down. Exactly how it happened and how long it took is a matter of conjecture. I've never been one to come up with a theory and then try to make the facts fit the theory like so many of these "experts" try to do.
@@garygemmell3488 These theories came out because Roy Mengot, a historian, disproved James Cameron's theory and then made a theory of his own, which is the backbone of all these theories. Since Roy Mengot's theory does not perfectly align with eyewitnesses, these theories were formed to attempt to correct his theory.
here are some things that i spotted wrong in these theories 3:31 the ship can't do a straight breakup and also the string from the mast (Radio antennas) would break apart even the 3rd funnel cannot fall during the breakup 3:47 that's not possible the funnels are still on and even the lookout mast will go down if it's moving down into the ocean floor 3:51 going down that fast will quickly bring the mast down 4:03 the ship can't break that soft and the double bottom, the ship couldn't break up totally from the double bottom that slow (can't hold for that long) 0:05 the ship cannot break at such a high angle. most studies and scientists say that the ship would break at an angle of 25-30 0:11 it isn't physically possible for the ship to "twist" that's not how physics work 0:22 the breakup is too fast 0:44 the breakup is too fast and high 1:04 the sections can't break into so many of them 1:10 the ship can't just bend into the inside and despite with the double bottom the ship can't hold it for such a long time 1:39 the funnel can't break the ship imediataly (idk how to spell it) and the funnel it not that strong 2:03 that's not even possible the boilers shut their dampers and also the boilers are still underwater 2:21 the ship can't break at such a low angle 2:36 the ship can't bounce in the water and it will quickly bring the mast down 5:52 the ship can't break at such a low angle
Some things I want to say: 1. If you ask about the music, I won't reply because you're too lazy to read the top of the description. 2. Aaron1912's V-break is not here because he has stopped making Titanic content, let's just respect that and forget about the V-break. 3. If anyone knows about the lost 2006 documentary, please tell me! 4. I animated RobloxianX's theory. 5. Turn on the subtitles. 6. I'm not trash talking trash about these theories, I like most of them, but don't believe them.
Titanic honor and glory 2016 is my fav. It’s how I would believe it would have split. It even has a made up sound of what the split would’ve sounded like. Pretty horrifying.
Detailed explanation: 9° list port, evens outs, now there’s no list, second funnel falls, bottom fails but is barely connected, bottom up after the third funnel, third section snaps in front of the third funnel, the few connections at the bottom drag the stern slightly down, bow and middle go bye bye, final plunge.
It's really cool that you gathered up the animations, but some of them, like the ones from Brugger Filmes or News Direct were made for illustrative purposes much rather than analytic purposes, so there's pretty much no use in criticizing them. The rest of them do have some explaining to do when it comes to accuracy.
Personally my break up theory is that the bow and stern where simply in two different paths in life and sometimes people just separate, after that the only thing to decide was who was going to take the funnels, so they agreed to split them in the Atlantic Court.
Fun fact: titanic sinks one piece at year 1912 - 1985 because submarines doens't explore to see titanic wreck, and titanic survivors said titanic break in half.
Here is my theory of how the titanic split: -At 2:16, the lights went out due to malfunctioning wires and the ship went into darkness. The wooden deck then proceeds to bend and stress at 24°, the ship then lists at 8° to starboard then the upper decks start to separate and the lower decks start to mangle onto each other. Due the the immense stress, the ship then lists abruptly to 18° to starboard and then splits into two. The break zone was behind the third funnel. The stern lowers to an angle of 9°. The bow lists to 30° as it is heading for the ocean floor. The bow lifts the stern and then the stern detaches at 73°. The stern lowers to 61° at it detaches but rises up once again to 88° before sinking into the Atlantic Ocean. I don't have a special CGI to do that but I can show that in flipaclip.
2:23 This confused me alot... My personal Question : How did the titanic breakup When Stern is flooding with bow? ,If it lifted up. The weight of stern can make bow split
I'm really not sure, I suppose they went for a low angle so that the breakup would be less noticeable and it would make sense for some people to have thought that the ship went down intact.
@@Wolfric_Rogers The boiler room 1 must been flooded and Overheat the eletricity and break ,I suppose boiler to stop working all but boiler 1 is still working with eletricity
I’d say James Cameron’s version of the sinking is what I imagined happened but a lot of these match up pretty good as well 1:38 would be my second best guess
But it is quite possible that it will not be found now. (it could have been deleted or hidden) (in the history for 1.11.2020 - 12/31/2022 I did not find it, but at the same time I found deleted / hidden videos).
my theory for how she broke apart was this: 2:15 am the lights go out, the ship starts snapping in half as the cracks run up along the side of the forward and aft towers, spltting her into sections, the stern drops while the bow plunges to the bottom like a rock, the stern settles but due to the third funnel collapsing it causes the forward tower to dislodge itself from the aft tower and stern section, the forward tower stays held together by the aft tower and stern, the stern of titanic then slowly starts to rise into the air as the two tower sections come apart from each other, the stern soon settles under the water for a short second before quickly going vertically and sinking to the bottom of the north atlantic, this may not be true but its a theory i made heh but great video wolfric :)
So, all the theories saying the bow went straight down are a bit far fetched. If that were the case, we would have found more boilers in the debris field. But since all the boilers are still in their seats, the bow could not have done that. At most, the bow could have been down at a 35 degree angle. The only boilers found on the sea floor are from the disintegrated boiler room 1 where the keel failed
Nah, the bow would have gone straight down because of how the water flowed around the front. Any objects still remaining on desks and shelves could have been shifted during impact at the bottom of the ocean or stayed relatively still due to buoyancy/inertia.
i think every underwater break ups were unlikely cuz i remember that some of the passengers stated that they witnessed the titanic splits into two and no one believes them until the wreck was found. unless they had a scuba or diving into the water while the ship splits.
One thing often forgotten is that initially many of the survivors testified that Titanic went down in one piece. Therefore the breaking up couldn't be very spectacular - likely happened underwater or at least partially underwater, because otherwise the witnesses would see it. If it went anything close to Cameron version no one would be confused.
In a way, yes. I believe that water was up to the engine room skylight when the breakup occurred, putting the whole break zone below the waterline. It accounts for a number of people seeing water get over the whole base of the third funnel before they saw the stern settle back or the ship just suddenly seem to disappear as the last lights went out. Frank Goldsmith: “By now, the ship was tilted way down in front, and when the ice water reached the back stack, something exploded. I started crying and my mother wrapped her arms around me and pulled me to her breast.” Edward Buley: “She went down as far as the after-funnel, and then there was a little roar, as though the engines had rushed forward, and she snapped in two, and the bow part went down and the after-part came up and staid up five minutes before it went down.” - Boat 10 Joseph Scarrott: “When the third funnel had nearly disappeared, I heard four explosions, which I took to be the bursting of the boilers. The ship was right up on end then. Suddenly, she broke in two between the third and fourth funnels. The after-part of the ship came down on the water in its normal position and seemed as if it was going to remain afloat, but it only remained a minute or two and then sank.” - Boat 14 Samuel Rule: “Just before she disappeared, there was a rumbling inside the ship like an earthquake. Then the stern settled back a bit, and she went down so slowly and quietly that there was no suction or commotion in the water at all. I think the noise we heard was that of the boilers and engines breaking away from their seatings and falling down through the forward bulkheads. At the time it occurred, the ship was standing nearly upright in the water, with her stern in the air and the forward part as far as the after-funnel underwater.” - Boat 15 Robert Daniel: “After the last row of lights went out, I noticed that the great hull lurched slightly, like any water-logged craft, and shortly afterward the bow began to settle slightly more on the starboard side, where the plates had been torn from the bow and where the gaping wound in the ship’s side must have been. Then she sank gradually until the four funnels had almost been hidden by the rushing waters, and a moment later, she went down without creating the great suction I expected she would make.” - In the water
@@Wolfric_Rogers Out of interest, how many accounts were their of the third funnel being partially submerged / water up to 4th funnel before split / disappearing?
Off the top of my head: 1. George Symons 2. John Poingdestre 3. Edward Buley 4. Frank Evans 5. Samuel Rule 6. William Nutbean 7. George Crowe 8. Frank Goldsmith 9. Thomas Ranger 10. Joseph Scarrott 11. Alfred White 12. Robert Daniel 13. Olaus Abelseth 14. Charles Lightoller (possibly) 15. Albert Horswill (possibly) 16. Jack Thayer (possibly) 17. Arthur Bright (possibly)
Yes, but Thomas Patrick Dillon said that fell aft when the stern was rising again and said that it bobbed up in the water and broke off. Nobody saw the fourth fall when the stern righted.
The 4th funnel was built very differently from the 3rd funnel. It was built much stronger and the guy wires were only their to help with Stability. None of the Titanic's funnels fell because of the guy wires snapping. The wires snapped because the funnels were falling. Even if the deckhouse formed, which I think it did due to Fred Scott's Testimony, it would snap nearly all guy wires but based on my research, due to its design and how well built it was (that the funnels probably fell partially submerged but based on my research, only 40%) it wouldn't fall. Their is also evidence of this on the wreck, if it fell, the deckhouse would have been crushed and mangled. However, it isn't, so that would help suggest that it fell late. The damage to the first class smoking room was probably caused by the implosion. Unless the stern crashed back into the water, then the 4th funnel falling would be quite unrealistic. I doubt it even fell at the surface. If it fell at the surface, it would end up further from the stern but it is quite near to the stern so it probably would have disintegrated during the descent. It was built quite strongly so it couldn't have fallen unless the stern crashed back. It would require less force than the mast so if it fell, the mast would have fallen. While the 4th funnel was fake, it was quite structurally stable. Plenty of survivors said it stood long after break. These include Jack Thayer, Ida Hippach, Edward Buley, George Crowe, Samuel Rule, George Symons, Frank Evans, Fredrick Hoyt, Thomas Dillon, Ruth Becker, Patrick Dillon, Thomas Ranger, and John Collins. If it falls during or after break, it dismisses countless survivors. For example, Jack Thayer literally said that he saw the fourth funnel in the water still standing as the stern rose up.Ida Hippach and Edward Buley said that they watched the remaining funnel for several minutes.Thomas Dillon said that the funnel didn't fall until the ship actually went down.George Crowe, when asked, said that it remained standing after the stern floated back.John Collins said it was still visible when the ship turned over and went down. The reason everyone says it did was because it was shown in several popular theories. While scources like OASAG are great scources in my opninion, they went with the funnel collapse in break as it is the general consensus of what happened. Apologies for any offense, no offense meant.
0:05 Breakup Robert Ballard (1985) 0:14 Return From the Titanic (1987) 0:18 James Cameron (1995) 0:23 Three section break (1998) 0:28 Titanic: Answers from the Abyss
With my experience of reading several books and barely understanding a thing because I was 5-6 years old I can remember that the Zig Zag theory has one piece of evidence, and it’s from an illustration of an eye witness account, and after doing some digging, I found out the Eye witness account even claimed the illustrations were false. Besides, this theory is mostly based on Air Pockets in the Bow Section, and since the bow was well underwater, I don’t think air pockets would’ve kept the thing afloat during the break. Yes I made this comment to argue with somebody, the entire Titanic Community is all about arguing.
Are you talking about the 'Jack Thayer' V-break sketch that was actually drawn by a Carpathia passenger? In terms of the zig-zag theory, a survivor did actually draw a zig-zag when she described the breakup, her name was Robertha Watt.
I dont know why i write this The stern reaches a 25 degrees angle while listing 7 degrees to stardboard, but it doesn’t break in half, due to the stress, the stern section loses angle, The stern bends down now at an angle of 23 degrees but it is not split, just bent down due to the great weight of the engines but the structure resists that weight for a while longer, the lights near the bending area turn off due to the damage, a double bottom piece near the breakup area is pressed against another piece of the double bottom causing its halves attached to each other to separate a little and break, bending downwards, due to the bending of the stern, the floors near the area of the break or bending press against each other causing them to break and weaken and even bending and being pushed by the other halves, thus weakening the decks or floors near the rupture so that when the bow hits the bottom, the hydrophobic force can collapse the decks near the rupture, one on top of the other, and then due to the splitting of the 2 double bottom pieces, that causes more water to enter an engine room where whatever gives power to the boat is and the water causes a short circuit that causes the power to go out, and after those events, the ship finally begins to depart and the structure gives up and breaks, it splits between the second and third chimney, the forward tower almost collapses but remains hooked to the stern but hanging and weakened due to its double bottom piece It glowed in the rupture, the third funnel collapses and the fourth remains normal.
The boiler explosion theory was the most realistic to be ever seen. Although her stern were to be a little bit more mangled. And the stern wouldnt just slip forward it would go backwards.
I think it's interesting there are a lot of theories about how the Titanic broke into pieces. My theory is that it partially broke while on the surface and completely broke on the way down to the ocean's floor. The reason I think that are because amongst the survivors, most people said the ship did not break before it sank while some people say that it did. Those who say it did where actually much closer to the ship. So if it was a partial break, it wouldn't have been visible from a long distance because it was dark. Also, the stern imploded as it sank. We know that because nearly every survivor said they heard an ear-shattering sound, several seconds after the stern went down. If the bow sank first and the stern stayed on the surface to fill with water before it sank, then it wouldn't have imploded. So I think the ship started to break and the weight of the bow pulled the stern down with it and then once at a certain depth, the stern imploded which caused the bow to detach completely as well as 2 other chunks of the ship to come apart as well (which is why there are 2 other huge chunks in the debris field).
Actually most people asked about the break up DID say it broke up. I think 20 people were directly asked if the ship broke in 2 and 16 of them said yes. So I think you may want to amend your statement that says amongst survivors most people said the ship did not break. It's actually the opposite.
5:52 i like how this one rushes the split with the funnel falling its really good my personal favorite is 0:16 tbh 2:42 was terrifying i hate the four section to three section break up theories
First when i knowed about titanic's tragedy the ship splitted like james cameron movie and when it split they we are sparks in the break up zone but now with this video i think sparks were fake i still confused of HOW THE HECK DOUBLE BOTTOM BREAKS IN ROYS THEORY
Regardless of how the breakup actually occurred, just imagine being on the ship when it did break apart? In minutes, you knew you were gonna be in the freezing water, and with all the boats gone, how slim your chances were at surviving long enough for the boats to return , that is, if they even would return. From what I understand, only a handful of people were actually saved from the water, out of the over 1,200 that entered after the ship went down. I can only imagine what must've been going through Captain Smiths' mind, knowing that as Captain, the welfare of those people was his responsibility, and knowing the ship was going to sink, and that most of them would die, and there was nothing he could do about it.
@@Pauly421what do you mean crashed it into a berg? The Titanic hitting an iceberg wasn’t on purpose, sure they knew of the ice warnings, but considering the fact the surface of the sea was so calm along with the fact there was a mirage that night so it looked like the sea was clear for miles..? Yeah, it was “totally” on purpose, a man who was entrusted with a ship, especially for the years of prior experiences he had, that’s why he was called the millionaires captain, because he was not only a safe captain, but well loved amongst passengers.
the thing with the theories that a funnel made a part collapse, is very unlikely cause survivors described that they heard a loud bang around 30 seconds after the ship got fully plunged into the water. evventually, investegators found out that the air in the stern got inploded. that means a part of the sterns decking maybe got loose and clinged off the stern part, so that means the funel that made the decking collapse can not be true
An important note about the footage shown from my animation at 4:25 in the video, that was my attempt at animating the Roy Mengot breakup theory. I wasn't as familiar with animating at the time and well, things didn't turn out so well.
Hi TA, sad to hear that you weren't satisfied with your animation, but I'm excited to see your new theory in 2023!
2022 ! titanIc
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Bro your animation is better than my entire existants
Yeah I noticed that too!
I also want to point out that if a boiler explosion happened, we would have seen that in any of the boilers found in the aft end of the exposed areas on the bow section or in the debris field. All the boilers found in either location are intact so a boiler explosion is unlikely.
unless the boilers that exploded were in boiler room 3 or 4 which are not exposed. only 1s which are on the ocean floor and 2s which are in the bow section and exploded. the collapse of funnel 2 is supposedly why people think their was a boiler explosion and that was in 3 or 4s room.
That or due to the boilers exploding in the small parts that would be left from the boiler had decomposed over time
This may be true, but I do still believe that the titanic broke underneath the 3rd funnel or just after it witch caused a small boiler explosion. My theory is also backed up by survivor testimonies.
@SaphireTheProtogen True, but they would have definitely still been hot. A rush of cold water against the hot steel of the boilers could crack them. Not sure if they would explode though, because as you said, they were already put out. All of the steam was vented at that time as well, right?
@SaphireTheProtogen yeah I figured I just wasn’t 100% sure. If the steam vents weren’t a thing, there would have been an explosion for sure, since the propellers came to a full stop and the steam had nowhere to go. But since there are the steam vents, an explosion is unlikely. I do agree with you about how the “sound of the boilers exploding” was most likely the ship breaking up under it’s own weight.
0:05 Robert Ballard (1985)
0:11 Return from the Titanic (1987)
0:16 James Cameron (1995)
0:22 Three Section Break (1998)
0:25 Titanic: Answers from the Abyss
0:42 Titanic: The Last Mysteries (2004)
0:55 Parks Stephenson (2006)
1:09 Roger Long (2006)
1:36 Lost Documentary (2006?)
1:49 Roy Mengot (2008)
2:03 Boiler Explosion
2:20 What sank the Titanic (2011)
2:20 Inside the Titanic (2012)
2:36 News Direct (2012)
2:39 Julian Fellowes (2012 Miniseries)
2:51 James Cameron (2012)
3:07 On a Sea of Glass (2012)
3:28 100 Year Mystery Solved (2013)
3:47 Underwater Break
3:51 Titanic: Honor & Glory (2016)
4:03 TornadoHarry
4:20 Titanic Animations
4:33 Titanic VR
4:46 Titanic: Honor & Glory (2020)
4:59 Part-Time Explorer (2021)
5:34 RobloxianX
5:50 Brugger Filmes
6:04 GamerPlayerZ
6:24 Mariner's Mirror Podcast
6:32 Zig-zag Break (My Theory)
6:42 ShinGoji
7:11 Elrond Gasal
7:31 ADigimonFanatic
7:42 Jealouse Statement
8:06 CrusingWay
8:21 DeclanDude25
8:26 Montoya2022Gamer
8:49 Dr. Wacky
9:05 SpaceP1ckaxe
9:09 Cris Studios Extra
Give this man more likes for timestaping the breakups edit:my wish came true
@@stockimage6174 Took me about 1 hour and 58 minutes to do this
I think a under water break is a good one
@@moonhidoraqueenofthemonste3268absolutely not survivors described seeing it break like James Cameron’s version
@@f4uawesome687proof?
2:46 literally i feld like the music break the titanic lmao
Don’t forget 1:04
ME TOO 😭💀🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@TITANICCREATORremember this one! 3:28 and his goood the music fits to!
I can't imagine how loud the moment was when the ship started breaking in two.
Yeah, several people described it like thunder.
@@Wolfric_Rogers or a freight train
@@sp1n4l_sn4p, yes, that is similar to Jack Thayer's description.
Surprisingly, nobody who was on the poop deck at the time (Thomas Patrick Dillon, Frank Prentice and possibly Charles Joughin) said anything about the sound that the ship made as is broke apart. The closest thing to that was Joughin's remark about hearing iron buckle while standing under the aft expansion joint at some point before heading aft.
@@Wolfric_Rogers ah, infact, it makes it more scariet to be honest.
Its funny how this video just got a v2 and shows my theory and not just days later i decided to update my theory again💀
As did Dr. Wacky...
Same
Well fuck.
MAKE A V3!!
@@jenniferphillips919 LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
@@Wolfric_Rogers hello I made a theory,about it ,although mine was lazily done in FlipaClip as I don’t have a professional software ,but it would be neat if u featured mine maybe on the next one ,thanks,Kit Kat107
The sparks are possible, they have to be under the very top deck to not be visible to anyone also to prove my point more is that heavy wires have a large number of volts going through them so when they break they COULD have sparks
2:44 What a perfect timing!
I didn’t know that it synced perfectly!
most people are forgetting that the fourth funnel was actually a dummy funnel, and the last boiler room was under the third funnel. so, when the titanic broke apart boiler room #1 (which was the last one) would have been instantly swamped. thus, with no steam to power the ship it is unlikely that the power would remain on for very long after the breakup.
Good point.
@jenniferphillips919 I know it had uses. I was just trying to prove a point
This is simultaneously true and false. The fourth funnel didn't vent steam from the boilers, this is true. It was used to vent steam from the kitchens and galleys, as well as being used as a chimney for the only actual fireplace on the ship.
It was stated by several passengers, however, that some lights remained on during and even after the breakup. This likely signifies that someone had started the emergency dynamos under the fourth funnel (it's other use was as an air vent for the engine room), which could run on less steam than the ship's main engines and so likely did keep certain lights burning until the very end.
There was also the oil lantern on the ship's mainmast that likely didn't go out until it was submerged.
So certain lights, especially dim deck lights, staying on is actually probably accurate.
I still don't understand why those who came up with their own theory made some of the lights on the Titanic light up after it split apart, survivors claim that in the final seconds all the lights went out until the Titanic plunged into the sea
Testimonies of some still recalled having lights on after the break, those were the emergency dynamos, or lights, they would stay on for 30s or even a Minute
There was still residual pressure within the system as it doesn't all escape at once unlike compressed air and the dynamos would have retained some spin for a short period of time allowing for the lights to slowly dim off rather than going off all at once. In some rare instances modern systems have acted the same as the case was with the big quake in Japan back in 2011 where parts of the grid went out of synch then gradually flickered out and one can still find videos of this happening here on YT usually from around the Sendai area.
imagine them thinking of a way to convince people the ship was powered to the end
they probably did it was just very faint
I know! Why would the lights be on after Titanic snapped in two?
6:04 yes boi, there it is!
Ok seriously now, it's incredible to see how many theories exist, most of them following the usual aft expansion joint top-down break theory though. It kinda just makes it feel that we are not even close to discover what really happened when the lights failed that night.
Nice! Your Theory is very cool!
“*buckle*” -Crunch Bandicoot 2022
Btw how yo make that sinking test
2:36
THE theory worse than arron1912's v break
@@walterhardwellwhite68419theories shouldn't be cool
3:03 ain't no way National Geographic is James cameron
The theory is made by Cameron
nat geo showcased HIS theory
The more popular is that the submerged bow sinks first to the ocean floor, leaving the stern to float for several minutes longer. The forward stern was filled with water, causing it to rise again in the air until it completely sinks.
I think the stern would’ve started to instantly drop forward due to the sheer weight of the triple expansion engines.
The giant engines would have INSTANTLY caused a weight inbalance, leaving the stern to be pulled down by the head. Not to mention the break caused many watertight seals and bulkheads to break and twist, leaving them open for water to enter.
@@amaritineenthusiast According to the sources of this theory, the air in the still unsubmerged aft compartments caused the ship to hold for 10-15 minutes like a plug until at some point it began to flood, also the rear half was in a vertical shape and this ensured the ship's frontal balance.
Didn't the weight of the boilers pull her down?
@@Williamslamaeiland boilers were ripped out.
I think people come up with lots of theories when we got all evidence based on the wreck and the eye witnesses accounts , the double bottom pieces are interesting , they both ends are bend looks like they bent agains each other’s which could indicates that they failed first but was still attached slightly , the upper decks and side wall hull was still attached and started to bend heavily and then twisted and broke making the ship separate in half , which was visible by them , the funnels like James Cameron depicted after they fell cuz of the tilt they remained attached till the ship started to dive down pulling all the Davits which are all gone but the forward one in bow wreckage
I for some reason want to go with James Cameron’s theory. To me that just seems like the most plausible. At least it’s better than Aaron1912
@@therealspeedwagon1451 u talking about the movie ?? I believe it’s totally wrong , the break up location is located right in front or underneath the 3rd funnel since the bow wreck ain’t long enough to fit 3rd funnel , the angle is also wrong 😑, the movie made it looks like 75 degree 📜 which is way too much for the hull, his 2012 new theory it is close but based on the break line of the aft bow , the mangled twisted steel doesn’t show clean break , it looked like the titanic bent heavily before break up , which in pitch black night not so many saw that .
@@midokhalil1558 I thought the angle for the ship sinking was 45 degrees
Then again, some theories claimed the break was at a shallower angle at 11 degrees...
@@jacobaldrich1534 the ship was sinking , the stress point kept changing or moving aft let’s say , it is possible she could have reached 45 and besides the eye witnesses accounts I always put them first , u see when they said it broke in two everyone said it is impossible and it turned out to be possible
@@therealspeedwagon1451 Which exactly. This at 1995 or the other at 2012?
3:55 “How do the funnels fall in opposite direction?”
The answer for that is extremely simple, the speed of the break up somewhat pushed the 3rd funnel to collapse ahead of it, the funnel was stressed due to the break up anyway.
The 4th funnel fell behind it and you already know why.
Oh actually nevermind, I thought you meant something else, you’re right
@@MB-us2rs, yeah, I meant that that somehow fell to different sides of the ship.
@@Wolfric_Rogers yeah what you said makes sense, the 3rd funnel fell on a *kinda* wierd direction
"Stressed due to the break up"
Hahaha
@@Heythebrodyboy its a stupid comment
I honestly agree with the low angle breakup, in “Part-Time Explorer” 5:10 even though it doesn’t make sense for the whole superstructure to completely fail at such a low angle. It can be the only way for nobody to think the ship split in two at the time.
I think the reason people didn’t think it split was because it was so dark. It was a moonless night and the sea was so calm that you couldn’t see anything other than the stars, the lights of the ship, and the reflection of both in the water. Since the power went out only a few moments before the break-up, the survivors would also be subject to night blindness for a minute or two, and the ship would have broke by then. The people say that they heard a boiler explosion, but many people believe that they were only hearing the hull and superstructure fail and come apart. You do have a good point, but I also don’t think the structure would fail at that angle.
I believe the weight of the titanic on the back end is just far to great. The fact all that water is holding down the front and the back being lifted out of the water causes far too much weight displacement. I believe the low angle split happened just that, because it was a low angle split and just tore at the first sign of overload on the back.
@@GenericOceanLinerHistorian but there was a lot of people who sworn to have seen the ship split in two, so the break up must be at least visible
@@elyisusking3603 I believe what most people saw was the outline of the ship breaking apart through the stars, since you’d be able to see the black mass that was the ship cover up stars as the stern fell down. I recommend you watch Ocean Liner Design’s video titled ‘What did Titanic’s Break Up Really Look Like?’, it shows pretty clearly what I mean if you didn’t understand what I said. Not a very easy thing to put into words lol
@theolympicclassdude5452 Charles Lightoller said the ship looked like just a giant black mass
I'm bored so I did this:
00:00 Intro
00:05 Robert Ballard's Theory 1985
00:10 Return to The Titanic Theory 1987
00:15 Titanic James Cameron 1995
00:22 Three Section Break Theory 1998
00:25 Answers From The Abyss Theory 1999
00:42 The Last Mysteries Theory 2004
00:55 Park Stephenson 2005/2006
01:10 Roger Long Theory 2005/2006
01:36 Lost Documentary from 2006
01:49 Roy Mengot Theory 2008
02:03 Boiler Explosion Theory
02:20 Inside The Titanic Theory 2011/2012
02:36 News Direct Theory 2012
02:39 Titanic MiniSeries 2012
02:51 Banana Peel Theory 2012
03:07 OASOG Book Theory 2012
03:28 100 Year Mystery Solved 2013
03:47 Titanic Underwater Break Theory
03:50 THG Real-Time Theory 2016
04:03 Tornado Harry's Theory
04:20 Titanic Animations Theory
04:33 Titanic VR Theory
04:46 THG Final Plunge Theory 2020
04:59 OASOG Part-Time Explorer Theory 2021
05:35 RobloxianX's Theory
05:51 Bugger Filmes Theory
06:05 GamePlayerZ Theory
06:25 Mariner's Mirror Podcast Theory
06:32 Zig-Zag Theory
06:43 ShinGoji's Theory
07:11 Elrond Gasal's Theory
07:31 ADigimonFantastic's Theory
07:42 Jealouse Statement's Theory
08:06 CrusingWay's Theory
08:21 DeclanDude25's Theory
08:27 Montoya2022Gamer's Theory
08:49 Dr. Wacky's Theory
09:05 SpaceP1ckaxe's Theory
09:10 Cris Studios Extra's Theory
Never realized how many were in this.
Lol
I believe the stern rose to about 30 degrees and it broke right in front of the 3rd funnel by about a foot. As the stern falls and hit the water, the funnels fall in opposite directions. The double bottom breaks, and the bow section takes a small bit of the stern superstructure off. The stern lists to port a bit, then the broken part of the stern tilts down, making the back go up. Then it goes down after settling for about 2 seconds.
Edit: After a lot of research I revised my breakup theory. It is very similar to ADigimonFanatic.
I belobe it was at 30 degrees, snapped behind the 3rd funnel, but also in front of the third funnel, resulting in three bits
Yup exactly which is why you find three parts of the ship
That’s an interesting theory. There are many different theories about how the Titanic broke up and it’s possible that we may never know exactly what happened. Do you have any evidence to support your theory?
The 4th funnel never fell
@@MatteoRamaccioni84then it should be intact on the wreck on the sea floor.
When I was much younger I also thought the James Cameron theory 2012 was how it actually sank (In two pieces) but after all these years it comes to show how many possible ways she could have snapped. Cool video. 👍
Thanks!
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@@SpongeJr3rd top can't
Many of those are fantasy representations such as Brugger Filmes that I'd rather not call "theories" as they're more of an artistic view rather than a product of some sort of analysis.
2:43 the song was perfectly timed
Yes
almost like a bomb
Yes
same with the parks stephenson one
Wow this is amazing! Keep up the good work.
I love your channel keep up the great stuff!!!
Thank you, I will! 😁
No worries mate 🙂
I think, that Titanic's Stern rose up by an medium angle. About 22 -26°. The stern settled back and went almost vertical down into the ocean.
Same!
Same, because I think that an survivor testimony said that the stern being almost vertical, it looked like an black thumb pointing to the night sky
Yes really correct
Showoffs
@Kaleb Carpenter however though it did break from the 2nd 3rd funnel so they werent correct (but thats what they used to think so yeah)
3:55 NO PEOPLE ON THE BOAT?
No air nothingness only
How. 👄
00:11 WAS THAT THE BREAKUP THEORY OF '87?
Fnaf will always be a meme
Lol
Fnaf will always be a meme if it has 1987
nice, all the theories look awesome. thanks for including mine btw!
2:08 Penguins of Madagascar reference
Actually, a Madagascar Christmas special.
@@Wolfric_Rogers it premiered with a Madagascar movie that I have
kaboom? yes rico KABOOM
Also just one more thing, you did a really great job on the vid!
6:42 There we go, with my Brand new model!
The Music fits the video and I like it 😛
Also there are more theories than the V1 video
Wow I cannot believe you made
Nice animation you used for it love that the lights have a deep orange/ red colour as claimed by people during the last ten fithteen minutes of the sinking
Ah yes, another one with even more theories ! This is a lot more better than the old one.
I mean, the only theory missing is the least plausible out of all of them (aarons v breaks)
@@thegamingteen44mc5 he intentionally didn't put V-Break to avoid everyone talking about it, and because Aaron doesn't do anymore Titanic stuff, but doesn't work anyways.
It aint complete without aarons theory doe xd
I dont support his theory
I have no clue of how the breakup occured. But i think it was far less dramatic than what we have seen in movies, documentaries etc, since so few of the survivors claimed to have seen or noticed the break up.
its bc the ship’s steel could not support the excess amount of weight and at a certain point it broke up with the bow (never know it was in a relationship)
@@amtrakdude432 due to the fact that there were so many metal that materially stressed,most of the connections (top to bottom break is double hull, bottom to top is aft tower) broke (the double hull would likely break 10 seconds after the initial breakup itself while the aft tower breaks connection from the bow and falls 5 seconds later from the stern) and the bow sunk to the bottom
The stern was pulled when the double hull was still attached which led it sinking likely a minute later, in 30 seconds or 2 whole minutes.
If the connecting parts broke off immediately the stern would float more time,
not exactly there bud.
Only cuz it was darker than dark ever has been. It was a moonless night, stars were barely blooming, only a few lights were on, and those that were on were very dim. It was very dramatic
I am pretty sure only one survivor said it was how it was in movies, I honestly believe that it broke when fully submerged or it v split.
2:41, "minseries"... 😰💀
It's just a small error, besides i didn't notice that.
2:42 i love how the music synced with the flickering lights
And the music was like a bomb that split the titanic in half.
Nice music, I love it!😊❤
2:20 POV: Your on a Lifeboat watching The Titanic sink
if this were really the case, then it would be easy to understand why the survivors did not mention the breakup.
@@TRealAragornTTE as much as I agree, you can see more lifeboats further in the background, no way they didn't notice the breakup
I just randomly made up a theory. The keel fails in the same place as everyone says it did, the hull then fails as well, due to the stress from the unsupported weight, the ship breaks just behind the compass tower, the forward tower becomes unstable breaking off, the aft tower also breaks off, the ship then performs a top cant, causing the forward tower to seem to cave in. Due to the top cant, the forward tower is forced into the deck of back end of the bow, which crushes the compass tower, it somewhat weakens the back-end of the bow, which causes it to collapse upon impact with the sea floor. This also helps explain why we can't find any remains of the compass tower. The bow finally breaks off from the B deck, and it heads for the bottom. The Aft tower also broke off during the top cant. The fourth funnel fell as the stern settled back. The forward and aft tower float out of the water momentarily, they then sink. The stern gains a list to port as the Fourth funnel falls over to port. The ship then goes up to around a 70 degree angle, it then turns 180 degrees as it sinks beneath the waves. Some things may be somewhat stupid, but I literally just made up most of that in my head.
Aft tower should detach from the stern underwater.In the wreck that part is close to the stern.Which means it was last thing to detach from the stern.While Forwars tower is so far.The only way it could end up being there that it detached on surface.
Your mistake is revealed by "The keel fails in the same place as everyone says it did, the hull then fails as well, due to the stress from the unsupported weight". The hull failed first at an expansion joint. All ships of any substantial length are built with expansion joints to allow for slight movement in rough seas, otherwise ships would be breaking apart at an alarming rate. They also have weak spots where large open areas are built. The keel, by design, is the sturdiest part of the ship. It is it's backbone. No ship whose keel is compromised will last for very long. The weight of the unsupported stern section as it rose out of the water caused the expansion joint to have pressure put on it in a manner it was not designed to handle. Once the failure began there was no stopping it. The keel itself failed when it could no longer support both the unsupported stern and the combined weight of the now fully flooded bow section trying to drag the still buoyant stern down with it. Estimates are that the fully flooded bow section weighed somewhere in the neighborhood of 90,000 tons. More than the entire weight of the unflooded Titanic itself.
Naturally, neither one of us was there to see it. That is why I prefer to use science, physics, and some knowledge of how ships of this size are constructed.
@@garygemmell3488 I'm not sure if this is implying a James Cameron style split, but the keel, while very sturdy and designed to not violently implode, is not meant to have the strength to pull essentially a third of an ocean liner while bent at such a sharp angle. I think the expansion joints went first, but the sudden bending of the hull due to loss of structure would cause a massive spike of weight (similar to how dropping something on a scale causes it to read much heavier initially), enough to crumple the keel or dramatically send parts of it into the ship. That would leave something like B deck pulling the stern down, which to me sounds a bit more reasonable.
@@3_Circles The only way to know for sure, short of actually being there at the time, would be to examine the both halves of the ship where the keel came apart. That will probably not happen in my lifetime. The exposed keel sections are buried in the silt and exposing them would be a herculean task. The keel is not made of one long section, but a series of smaller, reinforced sections riveted and\or welded together. When it snapped it probably did not do so cleanly. Steel is meant to flex and regain it's shape, but when it is stressed beyond it's breaking point it can take on some really weird shapes. Sometimes it will snap relatively cleanly, other times it will tear and leave jagged edges, and sometimes both will happen.
The two things I believe happened is that the bow broke free when the hull rupture reached the keel and that the stern came back on an even keel and then went down. Exactly how it happened and how long it took is a matter of conjecture. I've never been one to come up with a theory and then try to make the facts fit the theory like so many of these "experts" try to do.
@@garygemmell3488 These theories came out because Roy Mengot, a historian, disproved James Cameron's theory and then made a theory of his own, which is the backbone of all these theories. Since Roy Mengot's theory does not perfectly align with eyewitnesses, these theories were formed to attempt to correct his theory.
here are some things that i spotted wrong in these theories
3:31 the ship can't do a straight breakup and also the string from the mast (Radio antennas) would break apart even the 3rd funnel cannot fall during the breakup
3:47 that's not possible the funnels are still on and even the lookout mast will go down if it's moving down into the ocean floor
3:51 going down that fast will quickly bring the mast down
4:03 the ship can't break that soft and the double bottom, the ship couldn't break up totally from the double bottom that slow (can't hold for that long)
0:05 the ship cannot break at such a high angle. most studies and scientists say that the ship would break at an angle of 25-30
0:11 it isn't physically possible for the ship to "twist" that's not how physics work
0:22 the breakup is too fast
0:44 the breakup is too fast and high
1:04 the sections can't break into so many of them
1:10 the ship can't just bend into the inside and despite with the double bottom the ship can't hold it for such a long time
1:39 the funnel can't break the ship imediataly (idk how to spell it) and the funnel it not that strong
2:03 that's not even possible the boilers shut their dampers and also the boilers are still underwater
2:21 the ship can't break at such a low angle
2:36 the ship can't bounce in the water and it will quickly bring the mast down
5:52 the ship can't break at such a low angle
1:26 the fourth funnel stays on just like in real life and in the new Titanic Honor and Glory real time sinking video
Is nobody going to talk about how at 1:27, part of the Titanic just dissapears?
I think it's meant to be the tower sections disintegrating.
At 1:37 I think I know what the breakup theory is…
I think it’s the “S.O.S. Vessel in distress!” Theory
Correct, I found that out a few weeks ago, although the animation seems to be older than the documentary.
Yea
Some things I want to say:
1. If you ask about the music, I won't reply because you're too lazy to read the top of the description.
2. Aaron1912's V-break is not here because he has stopped making Titanic content, let's just respect that and forget about the V-break.
3. If anyone knows about the lost 2006 documentary, please tell me!
4. I animated RobloxianX's theory.
5. Turn on the subtitles.
6. I'm not trash talking trash about these theories, I like most of them, but don't believe them.
Where did you find the underwater break
I NEED TO KNO
@@Damon_Drawings, News Direct.
how do you make your own theory?
@@79sunayana you do research then you animateyour theory
6:33 this dont looks the v-break?
Ok.
3:15 It might be the electrical components and connections around the ship .those electrical wires might have slightly exploded.
The sparks would still not be very visible
My theory is there was too much stress on the superstructure and with the third funnel falling it just destroyed whatever was holding it together
a few of the theories depicting the Titanic breaking up into multiple parts : MMMMMMMMMMM WET COOKIE TITANIC
6:43 I didn’t know shin godzilla made a theory about titanic
(Maybe he was there…)
It wasn't an iceberg.……
@@Xavier-u8m6d lol
0:20 my answer: cables snapping and metal twisting and warping
1:09 pov you split the Titanic (or any other ship) under water in floating sandbox:
Titanic honor and glory 2016 is my fav. It’s how I would believe it would have split. It even has a made up sound of what the split would’ve sounded like. Pretty horrifying.
I feel like the ship kinda bended in the hull since it was steel and steel wasn’t strong as iron and so it might have split like that?
3:47 Ok, now this is the most exaggerated theory i've seen
3:59 the 3rd funnel has no front support,so it fell
Umm... ok?
@@Nobody-dz3gj I meant to put it somewhere else,sorry
Alright, np.
@@Nobody-dz3gj it’s good
Detailed explanation: 9° list port, evens outs, now there’s no list, second funnel falls, bottom fails but is barely connected, bottom up after the third funnel, third section snaps in front of the third funnel, the few connections at the bottom drag the stern slightly down, bow and middle go bye bye, final plunge.
It's really cool that you gathered up the animations, but some of them, like the ones from Brugger Filmes or News Direct were made for illustrative purposes much rather than analytic purposes, so there's pretty much no use in criticizing them. The rest of them do have some explaining to do when it comes to accuracy.
I hope you understand that I'm not trying to talk trash about these theories.
@@Wolfric_Rogers Ikr this!
Fun fact:ShinGoji what is the most electricity Breakup, because it showed a lot of sparkles when it started to break. Except boiler explosion.
Personally my break up theory is that the bow and stern where simply in two different paths in life and sometimes people just separate, after that the only thing to decide was who was going to take the funnels, so they agreed to split them in the Atlantic Court.
Fun fact: titanic sinks one piece at year 1912 - 1985 because submarines doens't explore to see titanic wreck, and titanic survivors said titanic break in half.
Titanic :answers from the abyss 0:35
Here is my theory of how the titanic split:
-At 2:16, the lights went out due to malfunctioning wires and the ship went into darkness. The wooden deck then proceeds to bend and stress at 24°, the ship then lists at 8° to starboard then the upper decks start to separate and the lower decks start to mangle onto each other. Due the the immense stress, the ship then lists abruptly to 18° to starboard and then splits into two. The break zone was behind the third funnel. The stern lowers to an angle of 9°. The bow lists to 30° as it is heading for the ocean floor. The bow lifts the stern and then the stern detaches at 73°. The stern lowers to 61° at it detaches but rises up once again to 88° before sinking into the Atlantic Ocean.
I don't have a special CGI to do that but I can show that in flipaclip.
Show it then!
2:23 This confused me alot...
My personal Question : How did the titanic breakup When Stern is flooding with bow? ,If it lifted up. The weight of stern can make bow split
I'm really not sure, I suppose they went for a low angle so that the breakup would be less noticeable and it would make sense for some people to have thought that the ship went down intact.
@@Wolfric_Rogers The boiler room 1 must been flooded and Overheat the eletricity and break ,I suppose boiler to stop working all but boiler 1 is still working with eletricity
Just so you know, boiler room 1 was never active during the entire voyage.
@@Wolfric_Rogers . ,But i thought that boiler room 1 WAS Supposed to support the eletricity... And keep the titanic light up...
Well, only the boiler rooms forward were active, I suppose the single-ended boilers weren't sufficient enough.
Interesting choice of music there. Pokemon Platinum is one of my favorite games of all time.
I’d say James Cameron’s version of the sinking is what I imagined happened but a lot of these match up pretty good as well 1:38 would be my second best guess
The james cameron angle is to extreme
1:38 is so unrealistic 💀
How would anyone have seen the breakup.
6:11 the titanic bow was go ready to go underwater with the song "perfect timing"
I can say the following: a more complete animation of 2006 exists (I watched it in November - December 2020) (approximately 1 minute 50 seconds).
But it is quite possible that it will not be found now. (it could have been deleted or hidden) (in the history for 1.11.2020 - 12/31/2022 I did not find it, but at the same time I found deleted / hidden videos).
my theory for how she broke apart was this: 2:15 am the lights go out, the ship starts snapping in half as the cracks run up along the side of the forward and aft towers, spltting her into sections, the stern drops while the bow plunges to the bottom like a rock, the stern settles but due to the third funnel collapsing it causes the forward tower to dislodge itself from the aft tower and stern section, the forward tower stays held together by the aft tower and stern, the stern of titanic then slowly starts to rise into the air as the two tower sections come apart from each other, the stern soon settles under the water for a short second before quickly going vertically and sinking to the bottom of the north atlantic, this may not be true but its a theory i made heh but great video wolfric :)
0:27, Subs: "This is just creepy"
Especially with this music…
3:47 where did you got this animation? I cant find it
Edit: nvm its in ShinGoji's channel
So, all the theories saying the bow went straight down are a bit far fetched. If that were the case, we would have found more boilers in the debris field. But since all the boilers are still in their seats, the bow could not have done that. At most, the bow could have been down at a 35 degree angle. The only boilers found on the sea floor are from the disintegrated boiler room 1 where the keel failed
There are even items on shelfs inside the bow
And if it went straigt down they would have fallen over due to gravity
Nah, the bow would have gone straight down because of how the water flowed around the front. Any objects still remaining on desks and shelves could have been shifted during impact at the bottom of the ocean or stayed relatively still due to buoyancy/inertia.
i think every underwater break ups were unlikely cuz i remember that some of the passengers stated that they witnessed the titanic splits into two and no one believes them until the wreck was found. unless they had a scuba or diving into the water while the ship splits.
6:28 THE FUNNEL
I like how the subtitles are literally your running commentary
The thing im still surprised=
The time for how long the titanic's emergency dynamos and generators lasted
They wouldn't have lasted more than a minute.
@@Wolfric_Rogers at least they lasted 30 seconds
One thing often forgotten is that initially many of the survivors testified that Titanic went down in one piece. Therefore the breaking up couldn't be very spectacular - likely happened underwater or at least partially underwater, because otherwise the witnesses would see it. If it went anything close to Cameron version no one would be confused.
In a way, yes. I believe that water was up to the engine room skylight when the breakup occurred, putting the whole break zone below the waterline.
It accounts for a number of people seeing water get over the whole base of the third funnel before they saw the stern settle back or the ship just suddenly seem to disappear as the last lights went out.
Frank Goldsmith: “By now, the ship was tilted way down in front, and when the ice water reached the back stack, something exploded. I started crying and my mother wrapped her arms around me and pulled me to her breast.”
Edward Buley: “She went down as far as the after-funnel, and then there was a little roar, as though the engines had rushed forward, and she snapped in two, and the bow part went down and the after-part came up and staid up five minutes before it went down.” - Boat 10
Joseph Scarrott: “When the third funnel had nearly disappeared, I heard four explosions, which I took to be the bursting of the boilers. The ship was right up on end then. Suddenly, she broke in two between the third and fourth funnels. The after-part of the ship came down on the water in its normal position and seemed as if it was going to remain afloat, but it only remained a minute or two and then sank.” - Boat 14
Samuel Rule: “Just before she disappeared, there was a rumbling inside the ship like an earthquake. Then the stern settled back a bit, and she went down so slowly and quietly that there was no suction or commotion in the water at all. I think the noise we heard was that of the boilers and engines breaking away from their seatings and falling down through the forward bulkheads. At the time it occurred, the ship was standing nearly upright in the water, with her stern in the air and the forward part as far as the after-funnel underwater.” - Boat 15
Robert Daniel: “After the last row of lights went out, I noticed that the great hull lurched slightly, like any water-logged craft, and shortly afterward the bow began to settle slightly more on the starboard side, where the plates had been torn from the bow and where the gaping wound in the ship’s side must have been. Then she sank gradually until the four funnels had almost been hidden by the rushing waters, and a moment later, she went down without creating the great suction I expected she would make.” - In the water
@@Wolfric_Rogers Out of interest, how many accounts were their of the third funnel being partially submerged / water up to 4th funnel before split / disappearing?
Off the top of my head:
1. George Symons
2. John Poingdestre
3. Edward Buley
4. Frank Evans
5. Samuel Rule
6. William Nutbean
7. George Crowe
8. Frank Goldsmith
9. Thomas Ranger
10. Joseph Scarrott
11. Alfred White
12. Robert Daniel
13. Olaus Abelseth
14. Charles Lightoller (possibly)
15. Albert Horswill (possibly)
16. Jack Thayer (possibly)
17. Arthur Bright (possibly)
Love how parks Stephenson theory is actually in time with the music😂
The boiler explosion and the 2012 miniseries do aswell
@@stuiep1983 yea
@@stuiep1983 and the 4th funnel falling in titanic animation's theory
in parttime explorer yes someone did see the 4th funnel fall. i dont remember there name but it went something like this "I saw her Aft funnel fall."
Yes, but Thomas Patrick Dillon said that fell aft when the stern was rising again and said that it bobbed up in the water and broke off.
Nobody saw the fourth fall when the stern righted.
The 4th funnel was built very differently from the 3rd funnel. It was built much stronger and the guy wires were only their to help with Stability. None of the Titanic's funnels fell because of the guy wires snapping. The wires snapped because the funnels were falling. Even if the deckhouse formed, which I think it did due to Fred Scott's Testimony, it would snap nearly all guy wires but based on my research, due to its design and how well built it was (that the funnels probably fell partially submerged but based on my research, only 40%) it wouldn't fall. Their is also evidence of this on the wreck, if it fell, the deckhouse would have been crushed and mangled. However, it isn't, so that would help suggest that it fell late. The damage to the first class smoking room was probably caused by the implosion. Unless the stern crashed back into the water, then the 4th funnel falling would be quite unrealistic. I doubt it even fell at the surface. If it fell at the surface, it would end up further from the stern but it is quite near to the stern so it probably would have disintegrated during the descent. It was built quite strongly so it couldn't have fallen unless the stern crashed back. It would require less force than the mast so if it fell, the mast would have fallen. While the 4th funnel was fake, it was quite structurally stable.
Plenty of survivors said it stood long after break. These include Jack Thayer, Ida Hippach, Edward Buley, George Crowe, Samuel Rule, George Symons, Frank Evans, Fredrick Hoyt, Thomas Dillon, Ruth Becker, Patrick Dillon, Thomas Ranger, and John Collins. If it falls during or after break, it dismisses countless survivors. For example, Jack Thayer literally said that he saw the fourth funnel in the water still standing as the stern rose up.Ida Hippach and Edward Buley said that they watched the remaining funnel for several minutes.Thomas Dillon said that the funnel didn't fall until the ship actually went down.George Crowe, when asked, said that it remained standing after the stern floated back.John Collins said it was still visible when the ship turned over and went down. The reason everyone says it did was because it was shown in several popular theories. While scources like OASAG are great scources in my opninion, they went with the funnel collapse in break as it is the general consensus of what happened. Apologies for any offense, no offense meant.
I believe Titanic Honor And glory (2016) and James Cameron’s (2012) theories are the most accurate to the titanic sinking.
Is this a joke? There not💀
0:05 Breakup Robert Ballard (1985)
0:14 Return From the Titanic (1987)
0:18 James Cameron (1995)
0:23 Three section break (1998)
0:28 Titanic: Answers from the Abyss
Good music
What’s the song name used in this? I need to know
Description
We may never know exactly how she broke, but any theory than the infamous Aaron1912 V-break is plausible
Bruh
aaron1912 v-break was not included in this vid
@Totallynotsomeblackiconguybutmynameisnothingthheje good grammer
@@ghosty3034grammar*
I did not know there were so many theories about the titanic but this was a great video 👍 btw can you add my titanic theory into a video?
With my experience of reading several books and barely understanding a thing because I was 5-6 years old
I can remember that the Zig Zag theory has one piece of evidence, and it’s from an illustration of an eye witness account, and after doing some digging, I found out the Eye witness account even claimed the illustrations were false.
Besides, this theory is mostly based on Air Pockets in the Bow Section, and since the bow was well underwater, I don’t think air pockets would’ve kept the thing afloat during the break.
Yes I made this comment to argue with somebody, the entire Titanic Community is all about arguing.
Are you talking about the 'Jack Thayer' V-break sketch that was actually drawn by a Carpathia passenger?
In terms of the zig-zag theory, a survivor did actually draw a zig-zag when she described the breakup, her name was Robertha Watt.
@@Wolfric_Rogers get 20 eyewitnesses to an incident and you'll get 20 accounts of what happened
I dont know why i write this
The stern reaches a 25 degrees angle while listing 7 degrees to stardboard, but it doesn’t break in half, due to the stress, the stern section loses angle, The stern bends down now at an angle of 23 degrees but it is not split, just bent down due to the great weight of the engines but the structure resists that weight for a while longer, the lights near the bending area turn off due to the damage, a double bottom piece near the breakup area is pressed against another piece of the double bottom causing its halves attached to each other to separate a little and break, bending downwards, due to the bending of the stern, the floors near the area of the break or bending press against each other causing them to break and weaken and even bending and being pushed by the other halves, thus weakening the decks or floors near the rupture so that when the bow hits the bottom, the hydrophobic force can collapse the decks near the rupture, one on top of the other, and then due to the splitting of the 2 double bottom pieces, that causes more water to enter an engine room where whatever gives power to the boat is and the water causes a short circuit that causes the power to go out, and after those events, the ship finally begins to depart and the structure gives up and breaks, it splits between the second and third chimney, the forward tower almost collapses but remains hooked to the stern but hanging and weakened due to its double bottom piece It glowed in the rupture, the third funnel collapses and the fourth remains normal.
The boiler explosion theory was the most realistic to be ever seen. Although her stern were to be a little bit more mangled. And the stern wouldnt just slip forward it would go backwards.
It's not actually. Titanic's boilers are intact on the wreck.
@@HugoGHA There couldve been some left open.
I think is you looks at some of the boilers they look Bent inward or deformed But idk
People heard shit go boom that night several times
@@johndetheshape3095 they were probably hearing the steel beams snapping within the ship
@@johndetheshape3095they likely implode but we didn't find every boiler of Room No. 1 so it is not impossible.
Thanks for putting brugger films
5:50-6:03
7:16 finally its elrond gasals turn
bro fr?
9:05
Anyone read the subtitle at that time..?
I think it's interesting there are a lot of theories about how the Titanic broke into pieces. My theory is that it partially broke while on the surface and completely broke on the way down to the ocean's floor. The reason I think that are because amongst the survivors, most people said the ship did not break before it sank while some people say that it did. Those who say it did where actually much closer to the ship. So if it was a partial break, it wouldn't have been visible from a long distance because it was dark. Also, the stern imploded as it sank. We know that because nearly every survivor said they heard an ear-shattering sound, several seconds after the stern went down. If the bow sank first and the stern stayed on the surface to fill with water before it sank, then it wouldn't have imploded. So I think the ship started to break and the weight of the bow pulled the stern down with it and then once at a certain depth, the stern imploded which caused the bow to detach completely as well as 2 other chunks of the ship to come apart as well (which is why there are 2 other huge chunks in the debris field).
Actually most people asked about the break up DID say it broke up. I think 20 people were directly asked if the ship broke in 2 and 16 of them said yes. So I think you may want to amend your statement that says amongst survivors most people said the ship did not break. It's actually the opposite.
that would explain why there were some lights on after the breakup...
well actually there r three parts of the ship at the ocean floor because when the third funnel collapsed it pulled down a chunk of the stern
5:52 i like how this one rushes the split with the funnel falling its really good my personal favorite is 0:16 tbh 2:42 was terrifying i hate the four section to three section break up theories
First when i knowed about titanic's tragedy the ship splitted like james cameron movie and when it split they we are sparks in the break up zone but now with this video i think sparks were fake i still confused of HOW THE HECK DOUBLE BOTTOM BREAKS IN ROYS THEORY
The song was Giratina Battle - Pokemon Plantinum.
Alright, there’s no way the bow would explode in the zigzag theory 6:32
Nice video!
Regardless of how the breakup actually occurred, just imagine being on the ship when it did break apart? In minutes, you knew you were gonna be in the freezing water, and with all the boats gone, how slim your chances were at surviving long enough for the boats to return , that is, if they even would return.
From what I understand, only a handful of people were actually saved from the water, out of the over 1,200 that entered after the ship went down.
I can only imagine what must've been going through Captain Smiths' mind, knowing that as Captain, the welfare of those people was his responsibility, and knowing the ship was going to sink, and that most of them would die, and there was nothing he could do about it.
It would be terrible knowing that so many of those who relied on you to keep them safe were about to die...
Well he should have thought about that before he crashed his ship into a massive iceberg.
@@Pauly421what do you mean crashed it into a berg? The Titanic hitting an iceberg wasn’t on purpose, sure they knew of the ice warnings, but considering the fact the surface of the sea was so calm along with the fact there was a mirage that night so it looked like the sea was clear for miles..? Yeah, it was “totally” on purpose, a man who was entrusted with a ship, especially for the years of prior experiences he had, that’s why he was called the millionaires captain, because he was not only a safe captain, but well loved amongst passengers.
So basically, nobody knows how physics works lmao
yooo is that you I love your videos
@@JackBright8899 Thanks!
@@NQProductions no problem
Fnaf Tuber Reacts To Titanic Video!? (Pls Tell Me The Theory You Think Is The Most Accurate?)
0:55 perfect timing (chef’s kiss) edit:perfect timing with the music
Also 3:51 is perfect timing with the music
And 6:10 & 2:41.
1:36 we must know what document this is and who made it!
Well idk
God dammit
So any uptades?
Nope :(
Kinda sad no?
5:52 The water and ship physics are pretty cool
Nice video Keep it up
A titanic video with the battle theme of my favorite Pokémon? *instant like*
the thing with the theories that a funnel made a part collapse, is very unlikely cause survivors described that they heard a loud bang around 30 seconds after the ship got fully plunged into the water. evventually, investegators found out that the air in the stern got inploded. that means a part of the sterns decking maybe got loose and clinged off the stern part, so that means the funel that made the decking collapse can not be true