Who does ever play Spain live in (big) band? Would love to hear what you think about the chord progression and if you find it a (s)pain in the ass or not. It probably also has to do a bit with the rather unfamiliar key it is in, as most jazzplayers (C-players) play with flats and there is a "flat jazz culture". Sounds Flat Earth Sociaty, but the Flat Jazz Society. Not to many sharps in the realbook if you're a C instrument, but saxophonists know better... (and stop playing when you put a key with flats in front of them)
Theres a big band chart of Spain but its a semitone lower than the 'native' key. Most of the challenge is the stupid key it puts alto in. Ok for Chick and Gary, not so much for Eric.. Eric uses that to his advantage though. Its more difficult to play this solo transcription in the big band key. The penultimate phrase is from the opening of Rite Of Spring. Nice video though!
So i just wrote a long document comparing Eric Marienthal's solo to Chick Corea's solo over spain and got a match, for a school task, and now this comes out like 9 days after handing it inn.
I assume you don't think I'm secretly your teacher, who publishes everything his/her students hand in...👀 all kidding aside, I know that feeling when you find something you could have used like just too late, but I think all the analysing you do yourself sticks way harder. What die you find out in similarities/differences between them? Would love to hear your conclusion
Eric Marienthal has stated multiple times that Chick Corea was one of his idols when he was growing up, so i wanted to look for similarities that could indicate that he was taking inspiration from Chick. What i ended up finding was that they were playing very differently from each other and that they had a few times where they were playing half-whole/whole-half and pentatonic scales. Not strong enough evidence to draw a solid conclusion sadly. Might have found more similarities if it was earlier in both of their careers.
@@dubara3425 Still cool to indeed come to this conclusion, which I kind of expected. Shows that you really can dig certain players, withouth necessarily copying some of their style. One of my main idols is Paul Desmond, which I transcribed so many solo's of and listen to a lot, but you probably couldn't tell from hearing me play. Sometimes the influences can be more abstract in terms of that Eric liked the way Chick approached music, with energy, adventure, his way of practising (which he said in a masterclass years ago when I was in college and he gave a workshop. He said watching Chick practising and his approach on it, even while practising classical works, was amazing to him)
Hi Sax Ton, there are video's on the way about transcribing and eartraining, so you might want to subscribe and put on the notifications if you haven't already. There is also a pretty recent video "Eartraining For People Who Can't Sing" where I give some tips around that. That's tip 5 I believe in that video. But stay tuned, that exact topic is coming soon!
i just discovered this version of spain like a week or two ago and i saw your old transcription like a couple days after... so the fact that you made a video on it now is just amazing timing for me. great analysis, you gave me a ton more appreciation for it and now i think its one of my favorite sax solos
Very cool! That's some good timing of both of us 😀It such a well crafted solo indeed, I have tons of respect for Eric. He can play funky, pop and through jazz changes all on a high level. He is such a good all rounder with an unique sound, imo
Who does ever play Spain live in (big) band? Would love to hear what you think about the chord progression and if you find it a (s)pain in the ass or not. It probably also has to do a bit with the rather unfamiliar key it is in, as most jazzplayers (C-players) play with flats and there is a "flat jazz culture". Sounds Flat Earth Sociaty, but the Flat Jazz Society. Not to many sharps in the realbook if you're a C instrument, but saxophonists know better... (and stop playing when you put a key with flats in front of them)
Theres a big band chart of Spain but its a semitone lower than the 'native' key. Most of the challenge is the stupid key it puts alto in. Ok for Chick and Gary, not so much for Eric.. Eric uses that to his advantage though. Its more difficult to play this solo transcription in the big band key.
The penultimate phrase is from the opening of Rite Of Spring.
Nice video though!
12:02 Rite of Spring makes an appearance! Great video
Haha, never heard it before like that, but now you pointed it this is out it's impossible to "unhear" 😂👌
Ah good one!
So i just wrote a long document comparing Eric Marienthal's solo to Chick Corea's solo over spain and got a match, for a school task, and now this comes out like 9 days after handing it inn.
I assume you don't think I'm secretly your teacher, who publishes everything his/her students hand in...👀 all kidding aside, I know that feeling when you find something you could have used like just too late, but I think all the analysing you do yourself sticks way harder. What die you find out in similarities/differences between them? Would love to hear your conclusion
Eric Marienthal has stated multiple times that Chick Corea was one of his idols when he was growing up, so i wanted to look for similarities that could indicate that he was taking inspiration from Chick. What i ended up finding was that they were playing very differently from each other and that they had a few times where they were playing half-whole/whole-half and pentatonic scales. Not strong enough evidence to draw a solid conclusion sadly. Might have found more similarities if it was earlier in both of their careers.
@@dubara3425 Still cool to indeed come to this conclusion, which I kind of expected. Shows that you really can dig certain players, withouth necessarily copying some of their style. One of my main idols is Paul Desmond, which I transcribed so many solo's of and listen to a lot, but you probably couldn't tell from hearing me play. Sometimes the influences can be more abstract in terms of that Eric liked the way Chick approached music, with energy, adventure, his way of practising (which he said in a masterclass years ago when I was in college and he gave a workshop. He said watching Chick practising and his approach on it, even while practising classical works, was amazing to him)
I think that is basicly my last paragraph in that document summed up quite neatly. Making your own style.
Fantastic analysis!
please more content like thie case study,learn alot from this..thanks #11 stay safe.
Really cool analysis! Would be cool if you could make a video on how to transcribe, especially chord progressions of tunes
Hi Sax Ton, there are video's on the way about transcribing and eartraining, so you might want to subscribe and put on the notifications if you haven't already. There is also a pretty recent video "Eartraining For People Who Can't Sing" where I give some tips around that. That's tip 5 I believe in that video. But stay tuned, that exact topic is coming soon!
Hi young saxophonist here. How do we know what scales fit with what chords?
4:48
Does anyone know the letter of all the notes?
Nesse vídeo o está usando a ligature Oleg ?
Hi there, I use just a standard ligature that came with the Retro Revival Eric Marienthal Model I'm playing here in this video
what software do you guys use to make the transcriptions look so nice?
I updated from Finale 2006 (first version of this transcription) to Finale 2010. Then I use the "handwritten fond" in there
@@SharpElevenMusic Awesome thanks!
Вы русский?)))На русском бы рассказали!)
Had to go to google translate to figure out the comment, so no, I'm not Russian :) . Belgian
i just discovered this version of spain like a week or two ago and i saw your old transcription like a couple days after... so the fact that you made a video on it now is just amazing timing for me. great analysis, you gave me a ton more appreciation for it and now i think its one of my favorite sax solos
Very cool! That's some good timing of both of us 😀It such a well crafted solo indeed, I have tons of respect for Eric. He can play funky, pop and through jazz changes all on a high level. He is such a good all rounder with an unique sound, imo
I love your stuff man, keep it up :)