The RIGHT Way to Improvise with CHORD TONES for Better Solos

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  • @JohnHorneGuitar
    @JohnHorneGuitar 4 года назад +142

    Just purchased. I love this approach and is in fact how I finally started to teach myself to make the changes after years of people telling me to play scales. Obviously, I love more advanced concepts too but as you point out if you can't make clear musical statements with the chord tones, none of the rest adds much to the music. Looking forward to working through the etudes!

    • @markgriskey
      @markgriskey 3 года назад +4

      "There will never be another Ewe" the sheep herder's lament ... pun courtesy of Ladd McIntosh

    • @musamor75
      @musamor75 3 года назад +1

      @@markgriskey That's a beauty! Well done old chap.

    • @bencmcintoshjr8480
      @bencmcintoshjr8480 3 года назад

      Eb Chart for Tenderly

    • @norakat
      @norakat 9 месяцев назад

      For major diatonic chords - every note of the scale is actually a chord tone.

  • @CaptainSunFlare
    @CaptainSunFlare 4 года назад +289

    The editing is a solid A+

    • @miker7808
      @miker7808 4 года назад +17

      I think A# would be more appropriate. lol

    • @arcioko2142
      @arcioko2142 4 года назад +2

      @@miker7808 A## its better

    • @b3llydrum
      @b3llydrum 3 года назад

      Yeah it's

    • @RussianSpy4632
      @RussianSpy4632 2 года назад +1

      My parents say it's average, I'm not asian or racist but I feel like it ;(

  • @Alekseyyyyyy
    @Alekseyyyyyy 3 года назад +60

    As a non-jazz intermediate guitar player I am finding these lessons extremely useful. Thank you!

  • @FacePomagranate
    @FacePomagranate 4 года назад +399

    That "cringe" note at the start was pretty awesome, not going to lie.

  • @HerroVincey
    @HerroVincey 3 года назад +24

    This is knowledge EVERY musician needs to learn. Solid lesson Jeff, 15 minutes has provided foundation for a VAST amount of material to study and work on.

  • @fran6b
    @fran6b 4 года назад +102

    I mean, to call ourselves a self-taught in these days, one mustn't watch to much of RUclips, cause if so, you better say you are formed at the RUclips Academy. Learning from people like Rick Beato, Nahre Sol, David Bruce, and our great Jeff Schneider, just to name a very few, is on another level in terms of free, available and valuable education. It's in a stellar another level, imo.

    • @BillyMac812
      @BillyMac812 4 года назад +4

      Those are my teachers - also; Scott Devine, Eric Haugen (very melodic guitarist), Brett Papa, Adam Neely, Tim Pearce, and Paul Davids...

    • @machinate
      @machinate 4 года назад +3

      @@BillyMac812 Tack Brian Krock onto that list, especially if you're on a jazz/modern classical vibe.

    • @BillyMac812
      @BillyMac812 4 года назад

      @@machinate I will check him out, Thanks!

    • @macdoug1234
      @macdoug1234 3 года назад +4

      Agreed. I used to have to try and learn from slowing down my KISS records back in the day. Now you can just type the song into youtube and someone will teach how to play it for free. Kids today don’t know how good they got it

    • @ernst-filipmichel9744
      @ernst-filipmichel9744 3 года назад +1

      They are only teachers if you really are a student tho ..

  • @Jamsville
    @Jamsville 4 года назад +117

    Welcome back! Btw this editing is insane!

  • @jackgriffith9229
    @jackgriffith9229 2 года назад +3

    Jeff,
    Have you tried formula improvisation!
    Take 1357 and think of them as target notes. Now choose any note and a half step below a whole step above then play the target note. Sometimes this formula actually works!!😳🎸🥁🎹☠️😎

  • @NeilKohlen
    @NeilKohlen 2 года назад +6

    I am a guitarist and since guitarist are somehow cursed with playing 3-note per strings scale and pentatonic, I have to admit that this is by far the best lesson on how to improvise. The rhythms arent too crazy in the given example and everything is very understable! Thanks Jeff!

  • @valeriekuhn3746
    @valeriekuhn3746 3 года назад +8

    Jeff, I really like and appreciate your writing on the score to explain what is going on and how the chords are working. That is great information to me.

  • @alcofribasnasier5089
    @alcofribasnasier5089 4 года назад +4

    The most useful video you ever can find on the net whatever the instrument or the style you play

  • @cannolivibraphone
    @cannolivibraphone 4 года назад +4

    So my main instrument is vibraphone, and I learned to improvise through the simple phrase "just play drums on the chord tones." This video put it in some ways that I hadn't really thought about before. I love chord and scalar based improv methods. Great video

  • @gdn9272
    @gdn9272 4 года назад +9

    Lines that rhyme - awesome concept, thank you!!!

  • @jaykay1053
    @jaykay1053 3 года назад +2

    The coherence of this chord-tone improvisation reflects beautifully the coherence of your instruction, here.

  • @dixonhill4925
    @dixonhill4925 3 года назад +1

    this is for me the only "true" method (in terms of solid start). i play jazz since 15 years, learned all the scales and all the modes and the licks but wasnt able to play a tune. why? because chord tones is the fundament of modern western impro.
    your book about this is my next buy.
    thank you very much!

  • @andreaiudica98
    @andreaiudica98 3 года назад +3

    I often like to think of any non chordal tones as possible extensions or colors of the chord I’m improvising on, thus extending this idea of “chord tone improvisation”. That way, you can actually delineate all your melodic choices as harmonic choices, without having to think in terms of scales (which I find too intricate and mnemonic). It also makes the solo AND the harmony way more “horizontal”, meaning the melodic lines flow together with the harmonic movements and viceversa, which is pretty cool

  • @sourceofpain
    @sourceofpain 4 года назад +6

    Oh dear... The content AND the delivery of the content, from your voice prosody, transitions, annotations and EDITING are simply top notch. Keep up the awesome work!

  • @Vintagestep
    @Vintagestep 4 года назад +13

    Awesomely explained. I was trying to do all of that well aware of the key aspects you just explained. Right now I'm taking a little break from jazz, but I think what I was missing was trying to compose solos, which is often seen as the opposite of improvising but I think is a nice way to work on phrasing, the broad look of the solo so it just doesn't look like a bunch of licks... And don't forget to transcribe guys. I don't write my transcriptions down right away, I prefer to learn the solos by memory for a while, play them regularly, enjoy them, and maybe later on writing them down, analyze them and try to incorporate the lines on other songs.
    But well it's easier said than done, hope you all can keep on with your goals as I'm trying with mine.

  • @alancosens
    @alancosens 3 года назад +4

    This concept should be the first lesson on the topic of improvisation. I spent years trying to improvise using scales/modes and for whatever reason it just took a while for it to dawn on me that the 1, 3 and 7 are what creates the movement from one chord to another. He's right. Most teachers start out teaching you scales. Maybe that is beneficial for classical training. I don't know. But for improvisation, you'd be way better off learning all the chord tones first.

  • @MrDavidFitzgerald
    @MrDavidFitzgerald 2 года назад

    The level of production combined with the clarity and value of these lessons is amazing.

  • @NickWebbSax
    @NickWebbSax 4 года назад +13

    Nice one man! Chord tone soloing is so overlooked as a way to internalise changes and make sure your playing is as coherent as possible; it gets rid of so much of the musical BS that we all are guilty of adding when we're just noodling.
    Great vid. Can't wait for the next one.

  • @curiouscurious6558
    @curiouscurious6558 Год назад

    great points. One of the factors that so many teacher don't stress is that landing on a chord tone on the beats. if we play a non scale tone on a beat, be aware and control.

  • @CharlesMottLMSW
    @CharlesMottLMSW 3 года назад +4

    There are any number of self taught guys whose playing primarily around chord tones as opposed to scales. Wes Montgomery. . Larry Carlton says that is his approach also. The you learn to add other extensions and alterations to make things even.more interesting when your ears are ready for it. Bebop had some resl interesting ways of approaching chord tones and is a good study especially to finding real interesting ways to approach them. And make them not sound like you are simply playing arpeggioa.

  • @robstevens9590
    @robstevens9590 4 года назад +6

    Thanks for this lesson. The tips of making ("simple") chord tone solos not sound drab are invaluable.

  • @josemrivera6481
    @josemrivera6481 3 года назад

    I must say your explanations make it so much easier to make sense of improvisation.

  • @alexambroise111
    @alexambroise111 4 года назад +3

    Wow haven't watched your videos in a while and the editing is IMPRESSIVE. You have always given out prime content for free on RUclips, which I deeply admire, and this is a massive upgrade to an already awesome channel. Cheers Jeff!

  • @anderssvensson3894
    @anderssvensson3894 4 года назад +2

    Rhythm defines all great musicians !
    Thanks Jeff !

  • @stiffiron
    @stiffiron 3 года назад +1

    Super helpful! Lophiile suggested your channel on a video he did for Native Instruments, and this is the first vid I saw. Very, very helpful!

  • @mksounds6326
    @mksounds6326 3 года назад +1

    I found you tonight quite by accident and I'm glad I did. Thank you for a very interesting lesson. Always good to get a new angle after playing for so many years.
    All the best from the Bay Area.
    MK

  • @howumighthaveanimatedthat2159
    @howumighthaveanimatedthat2159 4 года назад +1

    Welcome back I've been reviewing a lot of your old videos. I find how you teach is better for me. I understand music much better. I still suck at playing but I understand it technically at least. Hopefully we'll see more of you in the future.

  • @thebass548
    @thebass548 4 года назад +4

    Dawg, I needed this video. Thanks for putting it out for free

  • @mad_j1749
    @mad_j1749 2 года назад

    Dude I have been playing classical piano since I was 4 years and played well into my high school years but when I went to college, I wanted to switch it up and learn jazz. Scales were already a part of my repertoire, and even after applying complex scales like the lydian dominant, half-whole and super locrian scales, I never knew how to use them comfortably. Thank you so much for breaking it down and teaching the simplistic way to learn it. From here I can now build a foundation for which to apply my knowledge and create better solos. Thanks man! Keep it up! Liked and subscribed!

  • @pickinstone
    @pickinstone 3 года назад

    I am tempted to make a video looping what Jeff said from 2:48 to 3:10 over and over and over! Maybe one day, the internet will listen ;)

  • @jackgriffith9229
    @jackgriffith9229 2 года назад +2

    Jeff,
    Thank You for this post as I happen to be very skilled and talented at finding the worst possible sounding note and then playing that note multiple times During a solo but only if there are 60 people at the bar listening carefully and then saying that they could probably play solo at least as crappy sounding as mine !!
    To top it off I have a Jazz gig in Manhattan coming up and let’s hope that chord tones help me !!
    Tuesday April 19th 730 3rd Ave 22nd floor Rooftop terrace 12noon to 3pm.
    Jazz standards I’ll try not to butcher the tunes to badly!!

  • @orlandomcallister
    @orlandomcallister 3 года назад +2

    I have played flute for over 35 years and was never taught your approach. It was succinctly delivered, and will definitely help my playing by running patterns of 4ths and 5ths with the chord tones. Thanks once again Jeff.

  • @0e0
    @0e0 3 года назад

    the production of your videos have become phenomenal over the years

  • @crashkahuna
    @crashkahuna 4 года назад +1

    This is just the kind of thing I'm practicing now after years of scales approach. Fun going back to basics. Good presentation here.

  • @hearpalhere
    @hearpalhere 4 года назад +5

    That Hemingway story is crazy! I hadn't heard that one before.

  • @Malchior_Rises
    @Malchior_Rises 4 года назад

    I agree its more about easily improvising well and then putting your flavor into it after so LESS MISTAKES MORE CORRECT MUSCLE MEMORY.

  • @Lurco8
    @Lurco8 4 года назад +7

    Great content, but I'm also blown away by the amount of top quality editing here!

  • @gabethebabe8187
    @gabethebabe8187 4 года назад +4

    We’ve missed you! Thanks a lot man!!

  • @CJonathan013
    @CJonathan013 3 года назад

    Your way of wording things & breaking it down makes it all easier to understand. Looking forward to the rhyming melodies video!

  • @MrPianomonster
    @MrPianomonster 3 года назад +1

    Sir, you're a genius! This is an extremely simple and easiest way to make a solo sound good. Thanks )

  • @Eri.kikuchi
    @Eri.kikuchi 3 года назад

    Great information for people just starting to improvise, and it’s nice that you take a deeper dive into your composition! Thank you!

  • @chriscopeman8820
    @chriscopeman8820 4 года назад +1

    This is brilliant! I really wasn't going to buy any more practice material. I already have way more than I need but I now have to hit the buy button on Chord Tone Magic.

  • @enzopoggi2037
    @enzopoggi2037 3 года назад +1

    Thank you, Jeff. It´s very useful for piano player "more or less" like me. Warm regards

  • @Ezekio3160
    @Ezekio3160 4 года назад +4

    Finally after a long month!!!!! Thank you for great content!

  • @etiennechagnon
    @etiennechagnon 3 года назад +6

    "I found someone else" 😂 Important lesson man! I study jazz at the university of Montreal with the famous jazz bassist Alain Caron and he told us that each time he has to learn a new song, he comes back to this. He says Mike Stern do the same. In fact, we had a full semester course just on the way he builds up his impro on new songs from playing with chord tones only to a few bebop scales. I have part II of the course to my agenda next year! Have a good one my friend 🤘🏻

  • @vinimedina91
    @vinimedina91 3 года назад +9

    As a guitar player, I generally prefer the melodic choices sax/trompets player do when improvising. I think it has to do with the way you guys are taught to think the sound before playing, instead of following a finger pattern (which is what we do when begin to play the guitar and struggle to overcome later on).

  • @NigelCasey
    @NigelCasey 4 года назад

    I got mine yesterday, it’s super! If you play sax and want to improve buy it. Thanks Jeff

  • @TheChrist117
    @TheChrist117 3 года назад

    Excellent Jeff! Glad to see you're doing well. Kind regards, Chris.

  • @thomasgangsta
    @thomasgangsta 3 месяца назад

    This an absolutely fantastic demonstration, very good man!

  • @MaryReiber-w9t
    @MaryReiber-w9t Месяц назад

    You always make learning so much simpler!

  • @AbelJames
    @AbelJames 4 года назад +5

    dig the animation, welcome back Jeff!

  • @laurielyon7740
    @laurielyon7740 2 года назад

    Hi Jeff, You invariably offer great content. For that I wish to thank you.
    And I’m a subscriber.
    I’m an old guy………74…….and returned to my clarinet 10 years ago after a lengthy hiatus. Still learning how to improvise. So this is a good clip. I also transcribe a whack of clarinet solos to see what the ‘big dogs’ were doing.
    I’m getting better……..but that call from Lincoln Centre has yet to arrive.

  • @purnimasdutta
    @purnimasdutta 3 года назад +1

    Wonderful music lessons. Now it will be easy to practice on the guitar for me.

  • @zingardoh1
    @zingardoh1 3 года назад

    You are a good teacher. Stay safe.

  • @zimberlin9978
    @zimberlin9978 4 года назад +1

    This is awesome. Speaking some very clear language here! You're a great teacher

  • @charlieruisseau2476
    @charlieruisseau2476 4 года назад +1

    Wow, looks great! I'll have a look to your methods, I love the simplicity of it and the way you explain things. 25 years of guitar, still absolutely unable to play an improv (other than randomly glueing random links I learnt along the way and noodling like an italian mama...)

  • @musamor75
    @musamor75 3 года назад +1

    A very interesting approach- just coming back to basics, or essentials. A healthy approach.
    Actually, the visual effect this gives would be like considering chords tones as capitals, and scale tones as small letters. It is obvious, however, that BOTH are needed to make coherent sentences. Thanks for sharing.

  • @kevinhornbuckle
    @kevinhornbuckle Год назад

    This is my first video of your to have watched. Very interesting. Good concepts and well presented.

  • @jussijusajunttila7824
    @jussijusajunttila7824 4 года назад +1

    Thanks, man! I was listening to this while driving, really makes me wanna go home and practice!💪😀😀👍

  • @soyfelipedonoso
    @soyfelipedonoso 3 года назад +1

    You're such a great teacher, Jeff!! Got every idea even though english isn't my first language
    PS: The edition is brutal!!!

  • @bassplayer9432
    @bassplayer9432 2 года назад

    That's top-notch tuition right there - thanks for this!

  • @26Kingrich
    @26Kingrich 4 года назад +2

    Welcome back and think you.

  • @Fuego.017
    @Fuego.017 3 года назад

    The 4th note of any scale sounds amazing when played with a diminished chord

    • @KevinElamMusic
      @KevinElamMusic 3 года назад

      which diminished chord? the tonic diminished chord? or a different one?

  • @MikeYousman
    @MikeYousman 3 года назад

    Jeff: this is really great from every perspective: musically, visually, educationally. I am planning to seek out much more of your content!

  • @jazzed2b
    @jazzed2b 4 года назад +3

    You have summed up my 20 years of music study in 15 min. Wish I saw this 20 years ago! Maybe this is a secret that allows teachers to charge students jazz improv lessons for 19 years

  • @Nagihikochan00
    @Nagihikochan00 3 года назад +2

    If someone had explained this to me in this way when I was starting out improvising, I would have gotten better wayyy faster 😫

  • @leo-hg2fq
    @leo-hg2fq 7 месяцев назад

    Production quality is insane. What a contrast to the og video with the sax.

    • @filliiiii7
      @filliiiii7 6 месяцев назад

      You are musician?

  • @yaroslavtarnavskiy7721
    @yaroslavtarnavskiy7721 4 года назад +1

    Thank you Jeff. This is very useful video-lesson. Specially about sense of music, idea that solo brings. Do you have some more video about this topic?

  • @BillyMac812
    @BillyMac812 4 года назад

    I am glad you released something new! I enjoy your take on music.

  • @babawawayoyo
    @babawawayoyo 3 года назад

    This video is one of the best I’ve ever seen. Thank you! You’re a genius!

  • @Cvarier-channel
    @Cvarier-channel 4 года назад +1

    Great content and explanation, Jeff! I've been meaning to practice soloing with chord tones for a while now, but this made the thought a lot more concrete. Definitely going to apply this to a couple standards.

  • @michaeldematteis3409
    @michaeldematteis3409 3 года назад

    I learned scales first.but my big problem was looking at them as patterns,instead of the notes and scale formula.now I've really started thinking about the chords.

  • @2002jorgeparr
    @2002jorgeparr 3 года назад

    great stuf Jeff! THANK YOU SO MUCH!! KEEP ON TRUCKING!!!!

  • @MrLouloulepoux
    @MrLouloulepoux 4 года назад +2

    Amazing! Always felt like I couldn’t grasp what makes a good solo compared to a spaghetti one, this is helping so much! Cheers man

  • @jessemontano762
    @jessemontano762 11 месяцев назад +7

    Repetition legitimizes. Repetition legitimizes. Repetition legitimizes.. oh wait n

  • @joshuacrowlesmith3164
    @joshuacrowlesmith3164 2 года назад +2

    6:18 I Found Someone Else!! I’m dying 😂

  • @Germancroda14
    @Germancroda14 4 года назад +1

    Un crack el Chapa, ayer jugaba smash, hoy estudia la música a fondo.

  • @SuikaCider
    @SuikaCider 3 года назад

    Hey man! Just saw one of your videos from five years ago and this one. Just wanted to say you’ve improved a lot! Hope you’re having a merry Christmas.

  • @YQN2149
    @YQN2149 4 года назад +4

    that hemingway thing is a legend. the first occurrence of this baby shoes story predates him.

  • @HyunSeoCho
    @HyunSeoCho 4 года назад

    It's what I need to compose, but it's still difficult. But I'm going to watch your video again slowly. Thank you for uploading the video.

  • @lorenzosyquia4769
    @lorenzosyquia4769 3 года назад

    This video is FRICKING AWESOME. and I'm not even done watching! GOOD JOB

  • @griffinwojtowicz6961
    @griffinwojtowicz6961 3 года назад +2

    this is video that approaches this concept weaving though multiple disciplines and connecting the reasons WHY to use chord tones. I love lateral thought patterns. brilliant

  • @sheltondany8209
    @sheltondany8209 3 года назад

    wow, you really recording your screen and keyboard while playing and sketching, no wonder feels we analizing it togeather, for free content, this is taking it to the limit, invaluable

  • @Mynelka
    @Mynelka 8 месяцев назад

    All of those guys ignore 1 thing that they can`t understand ... it`s true, authentic, God given talent and inspiration ... you must have it to get it ... if you don`t just consider other hobbies

  • @SRHMusic012
    @SRHMusic012 4 года назад

    Jeff - This is excellent. I could have used this about twenty years ago(!). Thanks!

  • @glissandostride
    @glissandostride 3 года назад

    GREAT content/video/production. You came up in my suggested feed and I'm glad you did. Subscribed!

  • @Handle2point0
    @Handle2point0 Год назад

    You’re a great teacher man!

  • @zecalimazeca
    @zecalimazeca 4 года назад

    WHAT A GREAT TEACHER. HUGS AND TKS FROM BRAZIL.

  • @dougshankle7946
    @dougshankle7946 4 года назад +2

    This was incredibly helpful. I need to watch this a few times.

  • @fraterdeusestveritas2022
    @fraterdeusestveritas2022 4 года назад +1

    Jeff the best way I found to solo was the Barry Harris' techniques. Nothing else comes even close.

  • @jeffreydelisle7337
    @jeffreydelisle7337 3 года назад

    Excellent explicating, I thank you. I will be back for more.

  • @jjiacobucci
    @jjiacobucci 3 года назад

    Awesome ! Loved the analysis. Beautiful explanation ! Now subbed ! Thank you !

  • @thephunk1
    @thephunk1 4 года назад

    Excellent lesson, Sir Schneider! Thank you!

  • @markedwards5454
    @markedwards5454 3 года назад

    Great video lesson, very instructive. Thanks. Now I have to try it on my guitar.😊

  • @davelester1985
    @davelester1985 Год назад

    good explanation, and really good use of motives to show people how to be creative. good video

  • @MrSumpner
    @MrSumpner 4 года назад +1

    Agreed. Fantastic. Great Video. But then how do I / when can I move away from the butter notes (3 & 7 - see H. Hancock), and throw in the 9s, 11s and 13s?

  • @davidj6008
    @davidj6008 4 месяца назад

    Good info, my dude
    Very, very useful for any level
    Thank you