Thanks for this. Do you actually think like this while playing/improvising or is this just a tooltip for learning the chords and get them under your fingers?
Personally, I think you need to think like this when first incorporating new chords into your playing. Over time and with practice, you’ll get a sense of how each chord “feels” and the color it will add in the context of a song, and it’ll become a natural part of your toolkit.
feels like it’s great for calculating the chords more efficiently at first, but as with many things, practice makes it muscle memory so you don’t think about it at all
This is why fundamentals are so important. Know every triad, every inversion, in both hands. Then you start stitching "earth" and "quake" together and your vocabulary expands dramatically.
Indeed, very true. I learned to play piano with classcal training, but my teacher always made me play chords in every position with both hands, switching inversion and extensions. After 6 months of that I was really free to do almost everything I could imagine, only limited by my technical level.
I always leave feeling like I learned a ton and nothing at the same time (not Jeffs fault, this stuff just seems so simple in theory but not in practice)
I've tried explaining this concept to people before, and I'll definitely use the "earth-quake" analogy next time I do! I think it really helps put things into context right off the bat!
Is there a video where you explain how to string these chord stacks together in common chord progressions with good voice leading? That's always been one of my biggest problems. If not, I think that would make a really good video. This is great for decreasing the mental overhead when playing chords with tensions.
this opened up a whole new world of chords for me - before this video, I understood everything about extensions and inversion. but now, I actually have a way to use these in my playing!
I can see how this makes it faster to figure out the chord on the fly if you memorize them. But is there a rule or formula that can quickly convert the big courts to 2 triads?
Thanks, Jeff. Great ideas. Can I use any of the three relationships you showed us with any of the chords (m7, MAJ9, dom7)? Or is there something about the three chord qualities that suggests using a specific relationship?
You can use anything. This is simply about finding ways to break a chord apart to make it easier to remember for keyboardists/pianists. It does not really work well for other instruments.
no freaking way it was made easier!! this one is superb, i ve been looking for a beginner friendly tutorial for these chords, and now it was made easy for me! ive made tritone sub easier in my head, so if im in the 5 of the scale, and wanna do the 13b9#11, ill add the #1 which is the tritone sub of the 5 in the scale, this way its easier for me to stack both chords! thanks a lot bro
Ehi Jeff, how can I come up with different chords? There's some easy way to do it, or I have to do my math every time I want to play a different chords than the three you have shared here? Thanks
I’ll give you a pointer that’s extremely boiled down: for all the really consonant major 7-and-beyond chords, if you play an F major on a keyboard and then try white key intervals or triads on top of that you’ll find that almost all sound good. It’s the same with D for minor chords. Maj chords are built on lydian and min chords on dorian. If you learn eg. Eb lydian you’ll be able to find the E maj extensions. Dominant chords have a lot more variation, but it’s the same logic. The main chord scales there are mixolydian, “diminished scale”/octatonic and “altered” scale. That’s a mouthful, and it all requires study to make use of, but I hope it helps give you an intuition on where you might look to find chords like this on your own.
Sorry, one thing that I didn’t make clear is that the scale from F to F is the lydian mode/scale, and the scale from D to D is the dorian. I recommend trying to just play triads on the root and random triads and notes in the right, add some notes, take some away. You’ll notice that F and D sound good, and that for example E have some notes that sound dissonant.
I love your explanation...I have been doing this for years but never heard anyone reference the relationship in this way...I have (in my head) called these poly-chords but I like the term stacking even better. I also think in the way of building these (particularly in the II and I chords) as dropping down a full step and using the opposite polarity...If it is a Cminor, add a Bflat major...If it is a Cmajor, add a Bflat minor...makes for better coloring of the chords.
..not sure about “if it is a Cmajor, add a Bflat minor”..that’s not the same result, and the B flat, Dflat and F natural gives a completely different sounding chord stack..
OH MAN!!!! I have subs your channel for about over 10 years, you got such sexy beard now, I'm so glad you are still updating your channel, really appreciate what you do and share, bless you more success, Jeff
Super useful Jeff. Please suggest some slow ballads that use a lot of extensions. They might be useful for us to focus on and enjoy practising. I guess some Stevie Wonder songs or something like Round Midnight would work but I'm sure you have some great suggestions.
Subscribed! I was just watching a video the other day with some juicy extended chords and thinking, that’s a lot of notes, I think there’s an easier way to think of this in terms of triads, but the video was going too fast. This concept came just in time for me. Thanks!
Chord stacking and “polychords” are the same thing, right (or is there a difference)? I’ve heard of them being referred to as “polytonal or bi-tonal” chords too. P.S. I’m a guitarist (theory is theory though). Thanks.
Fantastic, very clear lesson, I play guitar, not piano, but it just explained so clearly how to add the upper extensions of these lush rich voicings, thanks 👍
Do you think you could do some videos on mixing/production of your workflow of r&b, gospel, Neo soul tracks? Mainly, with piano/keys, bass guitar and drums?
I just have to comment and give a massive THANK YOU. Coming across your videos today has *really* helped me to finally make sense of my first month of jazz school. Sometimes I feel like I'm trying to learn rocket science! And I think it all comes down to the teacher's ability to explain complex topics in simple and memorable ways. You're able to do that and I'm just super grateful (and relieved that actually there are easier ways to understand jazz theory! haha)
When he leaves out the root its technically not a g 13b9#11. But when you are playing in the context of a 2-5-1, you can leave out the root and still interpret that the chord is a g chord because of the chord before/after it.
This is all very fine, and yes it does help to understand these chords, but where did that Ab come from? It looks completely random. Edit: Looking at 4:11 again, I'm seeing it as G7-minus-I-minus-V = B, F then you add "Fm augmented 7" (not sure of the correct name) = F, Ab, Db, E. For me this makes more sense than just plucking Ab out of the air. No?
Hey Jeff, I was wondering if you can explain how using a G13b9#11 chord was better to resolve to a Cmaj9 compared to something like a G9? Are there some relationships between the 2 chords? Thanks
voice leading mostly, the a (13) resolves down to the g (or up to b for major 7), the Db (b9) resolves down to c, the F# (#11) resolves up to g. the extra spicy notes all have a place to go, or to resolve to, which makes the movement sound stronger.
The biggest reason is actually that traditionally B the third of G7 moves up a half step and the 7th F moves down a half step both arriving to C and E the root and third of a C major triad. The g7 is the dominant in the key of C which means it wants to resolve to C. Resolving the altered G7 into a G9 doesn't provide any harmonic movement as they are essentially two slightly different versions of the same chord.
This is an awesome lesson! One suggestion is to leave the chord and note information on the screen while you are talking as it would make rewinding unnecessary. The speed of sharing the great info is a little fast. Including the inversions in your video was pure genius and a masterclass within itself! 🎉🎉🎉🎯🎯🎯💯💯💯👑👑👑
Thanks for this. Do you actually think like this while playing/improvising or is this just a tooltip for learning the chords and get them under your fingers?
Good question. I would also like to know this
Personally, I think you need to think like this when first incorporating new chords into your playing. Over time and with practice, you’ll get a sense of how each chord “feels” and the color it will add in the context of a song, and it’ll become a natural part of your toolkit.
… then you too will be able to play clichéd jazz chord progressions, like everyone else! 😉
feels like it’s great for calculating the chords more efficiently at first, but as with many things, practice makes it muscle memory so you don’t think about it at all
@@kierenmoore3236😂😂
The real skill is how to combine this technique with a particular melody.
So, there's no G in G13b9#11??
Yeah I’m confused about that chord too. I wish he would explain how he built it.
You can add G on the left hand but the main voicing is obtained by the 3rd and the 7th .
This is why fundamentals are so important. Know every triad, every inversion, in both hands. Then you start stitching "earth" and "quake" together and your vocabulary expands dramatically.
Indeed, very true. I learned to play piano with classcal training, but my teacher always made me play chords in every position with both hands, switching inversion and extensions. After 6 months of that I was really free to do almost everything I could imagine, only limited by my technical level.
What a fantastic explanation. I'd been noticing the relationships with stacking triads, but this really makes it super clear. Thank you!
I always leave feeling like I learned a ton and nothing at the same time (not Jeffs fault, this stuff just seems so simple in theory but not in practice)
Agree
For those who wonder what the actual theory is called for this is called "Upper structure triads"
You’re a great teacher. 👍🏼🙏🏼
I was able to grasp this even at 7:10am well done
Every time i just listen to Jeff’s lesson, I thought Chris Evans is explaining jazz music to me.😂Anyway, what a great lesson!🎉
Just commenting for the algorithm
Thanks Jeff, always love your jazz content ❤️
Great video, love the explanation Jeff - Big props to you for making a fairly complex idea simple to explain!!!
You have nailed the visualisations explaining chord stacking and inversions. I love it. Thank you.
I've tried explaining this concept to people before, and I'll definitely use the "earth-quake" analogy next time I do! I think it really helps put things into context right off the bat!
Brilliant and mind-blowing ! The chord stacking is a science , while choosing the tastiest inversion is an art. No?
Is there a video where you explain how to string these chord stacks together in common chord progressions with good voice leading? That's always been one of my biggest problems. If not, I think that would make a really good video.
This is great for decreasing the mental overhead when playing chords with tensions.
Great lesson, It will take me a while to learn and understand. We have earthquakes on regular basis, Thank you from California.
this opened up a whole new world of chords for me - before this video, I understood everything about extensions and inversion. but now, I actually have a way to use these in my playing!
I can see how this makes it faster to figure out the chord on the fly if you memorize them. But is there a rule or formula that can quickly convert the big courts to 2 triads?
Thanks, Jeff. Great ideas. Can I use any of the three relationships you showed us with any of the chords (m7, MAJ9, dom7)? Or is there something about the three chord qualities that suggests using a specific relationship?
You can use anything. This is simply about finding ways to break a chord apart to make it easier to remember for keyboardists/pianists. It does not really work well for other instruments.
Also, are you playing these chords with one hand? My hands are too small, so it would be helpful to see your fingering.
Cool video. I don't get why you left out the root note G of the G13b9#11 chord though
Quase prefeito. Faltou fazer todos os exemplos em C , falar mais devagar , e deixar claro quando a root é em escala maior ou menor. Obrigado.
You should be called Jazz Schneider
Your content is well informed,precise and to the point......i appreciate
I sent for your charts nothing came
Did you ever get it?
Such a cool and simple way to think about these scary chords!
no freaking way it was made easier!! this one is superb, i ve been looking for a beginner friendly tutorial for these chords, and now it was made easy for me! ive made tritone sub easier in my head, so if im in the 5 of the scale, and wanna do the 13b9#11, ill add the #1 which is the tritone sub of the 5 in the scale, this way its easier for me to stack both chords! thanks a lot bro
What's the ending song? Is it yours? It sounds so good, I want to listen to it. Where can i find it?
I don't get the logic behind the G13b9#11
Jeff, been watching for awhile and your explanations have always been great but your production quality has become next level. Thank you!
is it the same idea as upper structure?
Love the Bobby Fisher shoutout 😁
I never would have gotten that except I watched that movie like a month ago for the first time
Ehi Jeff, how can I come up with different chords? There's some easy way to do it, or I have to do my math every time I want to play a different chords than the three you have shared here? Thanks
I’ll give you a pointer that’s extremely boiled down: for all the really consonant major 7-and-beyond chords, if you play an F major on a keyboard and then try white key intervals or triads on top of that you’ll find that almost all sound good. It’s the same with D for minor chords.
Maj chords are built on lydian and min chords on dorian. If you learn eg. Eb lydian you’ll be able to find the E maj extensions.
Dominant chords have a lot more variation, but it’s the same logic. The main chord scales there are mixolydian, “diminished scale”/octatonic and “altered” scale. That’s a mouthful, and it all requires study to make use of, but I hope it helps give you an intuition on where you might look to find chords like this on your own.
Sorry, one thing that I didn’t make clear is that the scale from F to F is the lydian mode/scale, and the scale from D to D is the dorian. I recommend trying to just play triads on the root and random triads and notes in the right, add some notes, take some away. You’ll notice that F and D sound good, and that for example E have some notes that sound dissonant.
I love your explanation...I have been doing this for years but never heard anyone reference the relationship in this way...I have (in my head) called these poly-chords but I like the term stacking even better. I also think in the way of building these (particularly in the II and I chords) as dropping down a full step and using the opposite polarity...If it is a Cminor, add a Bflat major...If it is a Cmajor, add a Bflat minor...makes for better coloring of the chords.
..not sure about “if it is a Cmajor, add a Bflat minor”..that’s not the same result, and the B flat, Dflat and F natural gives a completely different sounding chord stack..
Hey Sean, what's your method for simplifying complex songs for beginners?
It's not even free as you said
Hi Jeff,
Will that be any Black Friday discounts for your RNB Chord course!?? 🙏🏾🙏🏾
Increíble Jeff muy bueno!! Gracias!
OH MAN!!!! I have subs your channel for about over 10 years, you got such sexy beard now, I'm so glad you are still updating your channel, really appreciate what you do and share, bless you more success, Jeff
10/10 complexity broken down into abc….. thank you sir!!!
Hi Jeff, I ordered your download--thanks so much for the video--just needs to be slower, so I pause a lot. Thanks!
Super useful Jeff. Please suggest some slow ballads that use a lot of extensions. They might be useful for us to focus on and enjoy practising. I guess some Stevie Wonder songs or something like Round Midnight would work but I'm sure you have some great suggestions.
Subscribed! I was just watching a video the other day with some juicy extended chords and thinking, that’s a lot of notes, I think there’s an easier way to think of this in terms of triads, but the video was going too fast. This concept came just in time for me. Thanks!
Chord stacking and “polychords” are the same thing, right (or is there a difference)? I’ve heard of them being referred to as “polytonal or bi-tonal” chords too. P.S. I’m a guitarist (theory is theory though). Thanks.
Lol the transposing to other keys is such a pain but rewarding.
Thank you, with out your posts, I'd still be a halfassed bass player. Now I'm a halfassed piano player.
Fantastic, very clear lesson, I play guitar, not piano, but it just explained so clearly how to add the upper extensions of these lush rich voicings, thanks 👍
Do you think you could do some videos on mixing/production of your workflow of r&b, gospel, Neo soul tracks? Mainly, with piano/keys, bass guitar and drums?
Thank you Jeff for showing me how to get those chords easily. You're the man!!!!
Some of this I had managed to figure out on my own but this lesson helps tremendously. Thank you!
I just have to comment and give a massive THANK YOU. Coming across your videos today has *really* helped me to finally make sense of my first month of jazz school. Sometimes I feel like I'm trying to learn rocket science! And I think it all comes down to the teacher's ability to explain complex topics in simple and memorable ways. You're able to do that and I'm just super grateful (and relieved that actually there are easier ways to understand jazz theory! haha)
Enjoyed your video...unable to download chord chart though 😢
Why is there no G note in the stacked 13b9#11 example (or Bb in that example)? Can you explain how leaving out those roots still makes it work?
When he leaves out the root its technically not a g 13b9#11. But when you are playing in the context of a 2-5-1, you can leave out the root and still interpret that the chord is a g chord because of the chord before/after it.
It’s called a rootless voicing. There are several RUclips videos out there on this topic if you’re interested
@@lukeamerson3652 i'm definitely gonna check out those videos. Thank you
@@107olivier that's so interesting. I'm gonna have to incorporate this into my song writing
I FIND THIS KIND OF STRANGE TO NOT TALK ABOUT 3RDS STACKS AND INVERSIONS FROM A, B I FEEEL MSISED OPP.
Germans should be the best at chord stacking seeing how most of our nouns are composites. 😉
Superb video please keep these coming. You make learning easy
This is a great video, right at my level. just subscribed bc of it. Looking forward to learning more with you
Pro tip: BUY THIS MAN'S CHORD COURSE
Too much information for one video. I find it complicated
Music is notoriously very complicated until you get it and then it's easy
why not use barry harris method? :)
This is all very fine, and yes it does help to understand these chords, but where did that Ab come from? It looks completely random.
Edit: Looking at 4:11 again, I'm seeing it as G7-minus-I-minus-V = B, F then you add "Fm augmented 7" (not sure of the correct name) = F, Ab, Db, E.
For me this makes more sense than just plucking Ab out of the air. No?
It's the fifth of Db minor
Hey Jeff, I was wondering if you can explain how using a G13b9#11 chord was better to resolve to a Cmaj9 compared to something like a G9? Are there some relationships between the 2 chords? Thanks
voice leading mostly, the a (13) resolves down to the g (or up to b for major 7), the Db (b9) resolves down to c, the F# (#11) resolves up to g. the extra spicy notes all have a place to go, or to resolve to, which makes the movement sound stronger.
@@arcine3976 got it, thanks!
The biggest reason is actually that traditionally B the third of G7 moves up a half step and the 7th F moves down a half step both arriving to C and E the root and third of a C major triad. The g7 is the dominant in the key of C which means it wants to resolve to C. Resolving the altered G7 into a G9 doesn't provide any harmonic movement as they are essentially two slightly different versions of the same chord.
Do you do your own video editing?
This editing is on point!
cant lie jeff ur on to something here
really nice video making!
The animations are so impressive
That helped me a lot! Thank you
Another great lesson thanks
Good one - thanks Jeff!
thanks you so much
You lost me at Hello.
Thanks Jeff !!!
This is an awesome lesson!
One suggestion is to leave the chord and note information on the screen while you are talking as it would make rewinding unnecessary.
The speed of sharing the great info is a little fast.
Including the inversions in your video was pure genius and a masterclass within itself! 🎉🎉🎉🎯🎯🎯💯💯💯👑👑👑