Warmaster had a renaissance thanks to 3d printing. There's a ton of companies doing minihammer stuff these days. People love it since small figures take a little space, are faster to paint and are easier to transport. Rick Priestley reused the rules for Black Powder.
I love my metal minis, but recognize 3d printing has made it much easier to collect and personalize your armies, and have more dynamic poses than metal casting. Daemon armies particularly benefit from this.
Warmaster is responsible for getting me into tabletop gaming when I was 15. Still have all my high elves and should probably finish painting them. Haha.
Warmaster and Epic Armageddon are both great systems that have only improved over years of dedicated fan curation and have greater ease of access now with 3D printing
Best game GW ever produced by a mile! With 3d printing and free rules right now it’s very easy to get into. The current rules are amazing and the game is incredibly balanced.
I used to play at the US headquarters store. I remember when Warmaster came out. It may have a good rule set but no one was interested. For months they used to have a table with it set up at the front, and no one wanted to play it. It just wasn't a good fit and other projects could have used the support.
the game had more factions than the base edition of fantasy battle at the time, with the ablity to field Albion, Araby, Kislev and Hrud (yes really) armies, its a shame they didn't get adopted back into fantasy proper
Always thought this was the "correct" scale for Warhammer. Rank-and-flank games never quite fit at 25mm, whereas having the huge blocks of Infantry looks properly epic on the table. I'm slowly painting a bunch of Warmadyer I've collected over the years and it looks great on the table.
Man. I forgot about the Middle Earth set. I’d love to have that now. Got the Warmaster book but never bought any models. I think I was daunted by the scale.
Seems a bit crazy to want to play a game but only want to play it with the original miniatures that are very rare/expensive? Basically what you are saying is that although you want to play the game you effectively never will. You do you dude!
@danharris8805 Miniatures are more important to me than playing, I love painting and collecting them. I have plenty of rare old miniatures from the 80s and 90s, hundreds, so I'm sure I can find an army of original Warmaster miniatures. Rarity and being difficult to find hasn't stopped me before either, all the models I own are OOP and over 20 years old. So no, it doesn't mean I won't get to play it. I have no interest in 3D printed models or really even plastic ones, well some old ones are alright.
I'm actually going to play this soon. It's alive and kicking. Free army builder apps, free rules that have been maintained on Warmaster revolution site. Jst started painting some models for it. Most importantly there seems to be a few people put there who very much still enjoy it and have armies ready to be dusted off, shields polished and swords swung.
Admittedly I never played it back in the 2000s but I remember it coming out and reading about it. It felt like they translated the armies of Warhammer rather than injecting something new. In Epic 40K you could have these huge skyscraper-tall Titans clashing, in Warmaster it was all the Warhammer units. And even then armies didn't look all that bigger than a 3000 point Warhammer army just tinier models? Just my memories after (sigh) 24 years.
Not really true. A 1000 point warmaster army is the size of a 3000 point wfb army if you are going model to model. However, the scale is actually way more zoomed out, where a unit of 30 individuals actually represents more like 500-600 and the rules are appropriately built around the scale - it's just that 3mm Warhammer would not have sold very well.
@@dirtyhandskev I guess I need to clarify: It felt like in Warhammer and Warhaster you'd have a unit of infantry / cavalry or a war machine/monster. Even if that infantry / cavalry represetned x100 more actual fighters, it still felt broadly like the same number of units actually on the board being moved around. This is just my memory s a teenager, it didn't feel VAST like the aim of the game intended. Maybe it was bad marketting, but I never looked at a battle report or army photos in White Dwarf or Fanatic Magazine and went "WHOAH what a massive sea of horizon-spanning soldiers!" which I feel it should in the way Titans in Epic feel collossal.
Is it just epic warhammer, no, its better. On a fun side note, I found out the name of this game a year before its release when I did a copyright claim for an RPG I was releasing at the time.
I wish they had believed better about Gorkamorka but then they don’t really like to think about us customers customising our own toys because they only want to sell us more of the same toys without having to recreate newer versions of them, unless they are space marines that is 😟
@dirtyhandskev I knew it wasn't well recieved, but not to that extreme. Andy Chambers has been quite open about his opinion on the game. Have you got a source for the info? Would be keen to have a read.
The community has kept it alive and well! I can’t stop printing armies and terrain for it!!
Warmaster is a great game. I play warmaster revolutions and its community keeps it going brilliantly. Loads of cheap 3d prints too for your army.
The Warmaster ruleset would later be used by Priestley as the "blueprint" for the Black Powder ruleset, published by Warlord Games!
Working on my seventh army. Love this game!
Warmaster is still alive and well. Not only the original but Warmaster Revolution has a strong player community.
Warmaster had a renaissance thanks to 3d printing. There's a ton of companies doing minihammer stuff these days. People love it since small figures take a little space, are faster to paint and are easier to transport.
Rick Priestley reused the rules for Black Powder.
I love my metal minis, but recognize 3d printing has made it much easier to collect and personalize your armies, and have more dynamic poses than metal casting.
Daemon armies particularly benefit from this.
@@timtiren5196 3d printing stuff in 10mm is very cheap. Old Warmaster minis are REALLY expensive.
Warmaster is responsible for getting me into tabletop gaming when I was 15. Still have all my high elves and should probably finish painting them. Haha.
Warmaster and Epic Armageddon are both great systems that have only improved over years of dedicated fan curation and have greater ease of access now with 3D printing
At my local gaming club there is a small Warmaster player base. Never played myself, but damn the armies look good on the table.
Funnily enough, I just finished painting up a Battle of Five Armies box set. Wasn't expecting to see it pop up in a Jordan Sorcery short!
Best game GW ever produced by a mile! With 3d printing and free rules right now it’s very easy to get into. The current rules are amazing and the game is incredibly balanced.
I used to play at the US headquarters store. I remember when Warmaster came out. It may have a good rule set but no one was interested. For months they used to have a table with it set up at the front, and no one wanted to play it. It just wasn't a good fit and other projects could have used the support.
It also gave us a fully realized Araby army for once!
Would love a full video on Warmaster.
One of these days!
Love it, informative and concise
Fantastic game , still play it now
the game had more factions than the base edition of fantasy battle at the time, with the ablity to field Albion, Araby, Kislev and Hrud (yes really) armies, its a shame they didn't get adopted back into fantasy proper
Always thought this was the "correct" scale for Warhammer. Rank-and-flank games never quite fit at 25mm, whereas having the huge blocks of Infantry looks properly epic on the table.
I'm slowly painting a bunch of Warmadyer I've collected over the years and it looks great on the table.
Man. I forgot about the Middle Earth set. I’d love to have that now. Got the Warmaster book but never bought any models. I think I was daunted by the scale.
That's a game I'd like to try out one day, although it has to be with original metal miniatures and those are quite hard to come by these days.
Seems a bit crazy to want to play a game but only want to play it with the original miniatures that are very rare/expensive? Basically what you are saying is that although you want to play the game you effectively never will. You do you dude!
@danharris8805 Miniatures are more important to me than playing, I love painting and collecting them. I have plenty of rare old miniatures from the 80s and 90s, hundreds, so I'm sure I can find an army of original Warmaster miniatures. Rarity and being difficult to find hasn't stopped me before either, all the models I own are OOP and over 20 years old. So no, it doesn't mean I won't get to play it. I have no interest in 3D printed models or really even plastic ones, well some old ones are alright.
@Ethnarches I wasnt having a pop if it seemed that way! To each their own! Have a goodun!
@@danharris8805 Sure, no worries. I have very particular tastes with miniatures, just my thing. All the best!
@Ethnarches it's our particular tastes that makes us who we are! Take care mate! 😊
I'm actually going to play this soon. It's alive and kicking. Free army builder apps, free rules that have been maintained on Warmaster revolution site. Jst started painting some models for it. Most importantly there seems to be a few people put there who very much still enjoy it and have armies ready to be dusted off, shields polished and swords swung.
“Sales were not as epic on scale…” I see what you did there.
Admittedly I never played it back in the 2000s but I remember it coming out and reading about it. It felt like they translated the armies of Warhammer rather than injecting something new. In Epic 40K you could have these huge skyscraper-tall Titans clashing, in Warmaster it was all the Warhammer units. And even then armies didn't look all that bigger than a 3000 point Warhammer army just tinier models? Just my memories after (sigh) 24 years.
Not really true. A 1000 point warmaster army is the size of a 3000 point wfb army if you are going model to model. However, the scale is actually way more zoomed out, where a unit of 30 individuals actually represents more like 500-600 and the rules are appropriately built around the scale - it's just that 3mm Warhammer would not have sold very well.
@@dirtyhandskev I guess I need to clarify: It felt like in Warhammer and Warhaster you'd have a unit of infantry / cavalry or a war machine/monster. Even if that infantry / cavalry represetned x100 more actual fighters, it still felt broadly like the same number of units actually on the board being moved around. This is just my memory s a teenager, it didn't feel VAST like the aim of the game intended. Maybe it was bad marketting, but I never looked at a battle report or army photos in White Dwarf or Fanatic Magazine and went "WHOAH what a massive sea of horizon-spanning soldiers!" which I feel it should in the way Titans in Epic feel collossal.
I remember some cool sensory for this game
Its the best game GW ever made and the only way one should ever enjoy rank and file miniature wargaming!
Is it just epic warhammer, no, its better. On a fun side note, I found out the name of this game a year before its release when I did a copyright claim for an RPG I was releasing at the time.
I wish they had believed better about Gorkamorka but then they don’t really like to think about us customers customising our own toys because they only want to sell us more of the same toys without having to recreate newer versions of them, unless they are space marines that is 😟
Not to dismiss Warmaster fans but GW did the right thing pushing Gorkamorka forward over Warmaster.
As much as I love gorkamorka, it almost broke the company.
@dirtyhandskev I knew it wasn't well recieved, but not to that extreme.
Andy Chambers has been quite open about his opinion on the game.
Have you got a source for the info? Would be keen to have a read.