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@@GidonamorThe joke is that rhino has been put in so many box sets if you ask someone who's been playing Warhammer for a long time they'll give you a free rhino
The block of wood at the back is supposed to be an unditching tool I believe, in case the tank gets stuck. Wooden logs or beams were sometimes used as improvised armour as well, but given it’s placement I don’t think that’s what they’re going for here. As an aside, if you ever get the chance I’d recommend checking out some of Rubicon Models’ tank kits- they’re technically in the same scale as warhammer, although due to 40k tanks being massive in-universe they tend to be a bit smaller, unless you’re looking at something like a King Tiger. Quality-wise they’re tied with GW and Victrix’s new releases imo! EDIT: also, regarding Guilliman Blue, I don’t have a bottle to compare them, but Duncan Rhodes’ Two Thin Coats range has a similar blue glaze, that might be of interest,
@@whatintheuniverse4050 Other log found on soviet tanks was the one we Finns stuck between tracks and wheels to immobilize it before throwing Molotow's Coctail in to engine...
The contrast between the endearing passion of 40k hobbyists and them constantly taking the piss out of the people running the whole thing reminds me of my Catholic upbringing
As someone who owns the model, just throwing on a pair of russ sponsons seems to beef it out is enough to justify calling it a rogal dorn. Genuinely love this kit, and I'm glad to see it mentioned
Regarding the log: The Log(tm) was used to help with traction. If a tank ever got stuck in mud or boggy terrain, it would be put in front of the tracks to provide enough grip to get unstuck. You'll see them on the rear and sides of a lot of Soviet tanks, and on the side of Fury in the movie Fury
@@MidwinterMinis No prob! Also was sort of used as improvised armor in that sense too on the sides. Didn't really do much, same for any sandbags or track lengths that you'd see on the sides of the hull and turret or on the front of the hull, and I think in some cases would be worse, but it made the tankers feel safer and in that sense commanders just let their guys do their thing if it made them feel safer. It's a good way of adding some extra flavor to vehicle models too
@@JoCocomo It's worth noting that "log armour" does actually provide some protection! ... against explosive shells, which were unlikely to penetrate anyway. Against armour-piercing shells, it was essentially pointless. It's possible, though, that improvised armour did cushion the crew against the impact of non-penetrating shots. This does remind me of the old "Extra Armour" upgrade available to Imperial/Chaos vehicles in older editions of the rules. This upgrade didn't reduce the likelihood of the vehicle sustaining damage, but it did slightly reduce the severity of minor damage.
My spouse pointed out that the Guilliman Blue glaze looks like it's the blue that was discontinued because automakers stopped ordering it, and without them, there wasn't enough demand for that particular pigment. As, well, hobbyists and painters are a minuscule fraction of the automotive industry's buying power.
I have a Guard army that's mostly non-GW parts that I've been kitbashing together for a few years, and these are gonna make a perfect addition. I love the idea that they have a somewhat eclectic mix of slightly obscure or forgotten variants of standard tanks like the Leman Russ, so I'm going to have some fun adding these to the collection. And at that price, I can pick up two of them for about the same price as one official Leman Russ/Rogal Dorn, so it feels like a no-brainer. Thank you for shining a spotlight on this, I have immediately bought 2! XD
Thanks for the shout out 😁. Awesome looking tank especially with that paint job. I did just bid on it but it's got away from me. I would go for the dorn proxi myself and find some places to add guns... cut the bottom out.
Actually just painted that and this recently (as well as a predator). With the rear protruding bits from the russ and the front dozer it's basically the same length, but this is still wider and just looks 'chunkier' side by side. Like Guy showed in the video it sits near perfectly (and awkwardly) as a halfway between a Russ and a Dorn
Guy's obvious pleasure at his transition to the ad-read got a solid laugh out of me. The fact that Guy glued the front viewing slits on to the tank upside down made my knuckles ache. I'm glad to see that he corrected this before painting.
There are plenty for tank models in the rightish scale, so proxys are nevera problem. dont ask my why my guard from planet albion 6 has very british looking tanks
That video make me sad. This is why I got into the hobby for : be creative, customize my models... And then, right as I was finishing my first army, I had to move to a new city where the only association of player revolve around the local GW store, and I've been told that even my seraphim with custodes jet-pack are a hard no, while being 100% GW material.
@@kudosbudo I tried to find players interested in more fun or narrative experiences through My Hobby App, but apparently this app isn't that popular in this region,, unlike where I was for my previous job. But I don't plan on keeping my current job... Maybe my next contract will be in a better city ? And until then, I convert models and improve my painting skills. And try to develop my own digital tool for managing armies lists, narrative campaigns and custom rules. It keep me busy in my free time... ^^
Ah, the slow death of the hobby as ai like to refer to it. Been playing for 35 years, and encountered that too many times. Just sticking to gaming at home with friends now.
@@ARandomPerson66 so weird, my local shop lets me play with a an about half kitbashed guard army ( albeit kitbashed with GW material though ), even posted one of my conversions on the shop's facebook page
Two things, mud goes on wet and then starts to dry from the outside of the splash/splotch. So for mud effects, I'd go for a lighter colour higher up the vehicle and on the outer parts of lower mud areas then overlay that with your darker earth effects. Second, please try to fill the gaps on the reserve fuel tanks (or whatever they are) at the back of the vehicle. They really break the illusion! 😀😀😀
I assume, since it's a plastic kit on sprues, you probably get the plastic turrets along with it? It would be weird if they removed sprues from the kit to include the resin bits.
Just came back from a war museum in Brussels they have a Mk 4 UK WW1 tank in there, the thing IS a Leman Russ!! It also had the block of wood I was told it had something to do with helping getting across treaches.
@@theonlyenicfanever5346 I heard there was a GW store in Spain that wouldn't let you use OOP Citadel/GW minis since they were no longer available to purchase.
This model looks great, Well worth it for 25 quid over a Russ. Great paintjob on it too mate. The prices of some of those little barrels and extra bits for the tanks was crazy. £15 for a barrel and 13.50 for stick on "duel filters" seems nuts to me. Even the alterative brands are getting very pricey now. Mad because we are in a time where parts are easier than ever to produce.
Might be worth testing out the glazes from the Two Thin Coats range to see if they're a good replacement for the discontinued Citadel ones. Could be a fun video!
I think ToP did exactly that. I was very excited that there was finally a replacement for Lamenter's Yellow. Too bad none of the stores around me that carry 2TC have the wave 2 paints.
Haha I have one of these wolverine tanks and I’m surprised to see a video on it! Love how the kit was simple and pretty chill. I use it with my guard PDF as a APC like a Bradley. I mostly collect and paint and play for fun/house rules with family and friends.
The block of wood is for when the tank gets stuck in mud or a ditch. you tie it to the track for more traction, move forward, undo, repeat until you are unstuck from your earthen prison
Russian and Soviet tanks had long braces of wood on the back of their tank for aid to tracks to help when they get stuck in mud. Finnish tanks in WWII (ex. Stug) often put logs of wood on the side for extra armour.
There are plenty for tank models in the rightish scale, so proxys are nevera problem. dont ask my why my guard from planet albion 6 has very british looking tanks.
I love seeing pioneering tools, the wooden block for unsticking tracks, the canvas tarp, etc. Really makes it feel real. Too many fictional tanks ignore real ergonomics and details
I've eyed the Wolverine before, and at times I got scared off because it's not a "foorprint" match to a Leman Russ. But this video reminded me what I should never forget: I am probably never going to play Warhammer 40K in and of itself. If I get to playing with my Warhammer minis, it will be in Grimdark Future. Moreover, my whole Guard army will be proxies from Wargames Atlantic (when my order of "The Damned" finally ships). Why should I care about size discrepancies? I really should just order a Wolverine or two sometimes down the line. Probably AFTER the rest of the army comes in and I've had a chance to paint some squads. It looks good. (Maybe the turret options from Victoria Miniatures would fit the Wolverine?)
A couple of third party sponsons and that would look like a proper Leman Russ in my eyes. It also looks like an appropriate size for a Rhino or Predator (which is definitely undersized relative to modern minis). I'm glad I bought a few bottles of nuln oil when I heard it was changing. It was definitely a good investment.
The tank log is used to provide traction to get the tank unstuck from mud, usually found in soviet tanks. However this log is way to small for that. Also one more negative id like to add is the hardness of the plastic. Mine ruined a knife blade
Hi Guy, Military Armourer here, the plank of wood is known as an unditching log or beam. It's purpose it's not very exciting and quite simple. It's used to place under the tracks and provide more traction in muddy boggy conditions often to get them unstuck. Lots of tanks also had logs and planks strapped to their side as aditional armour during the second World War but it provided little protection.
Very nice video. Tank turned out fantastic. Would be really interesting to investigate why that one certain dark oil shade paint didn't workout. Loved the camouflage patterns. Looking forward to the next video. Keep up the good work.
@@MidwinterMinisbought a copy from my local store. With exchangerate 339 sek/24gbp. Absolute bargain. Have a lot of spares from my dorns, so this will be an easy conversion (hopefully). Thanks!
so idk if someone answered, always a bit late to videos. The block of wood was mainly used in tanks during WW1 to help get out of mud and craters in no man's land, as it helped give more traction- hopes that helps, guy!
The wood on the back of the tank was popular in WW1 & 2 as tanks would often get stuck in mud and it was used to help give tanks traction to get out of problem spaces.
11:03 Hi! Wood logs are helpful to pin underneath the tracks when tanks get stuck in muddy areas, it's been used ever since the tanks been tanking. Tarps (like the one on the model) are used for covering up the engine/other open ports when in transit under another vehicles power (i.e trains, trucks, etc.) to keep it clear of dust.
11:02 The Wood block is used to be tied to the tracks if the tank is stuck in mud. The tank is supposed to lift it self out of the mud with the increased tracktion by driving over the woodbeam. The one on this model is way too short though. It should be at least as wide as the outside of the tracks.
11:06 don’t quote me on this but things like those were used as makeshift bridges/supports on areas of the battlefield that a smaller tank can’t quite get over, such as a wide trench
most soviet era tank models carry a wooden log on the rear to help with getting unstuck in muddy terrain. shove it under a track to gain some traction. works with wheeled vehicles, too.
The Block of wood is called a "Tank Log", it's still standard kit on alot of Russian and Ukrainian tanks in the current war. It's used to help get tanks out from being stuck in muddy pits as the tank treads will grab the log, and us it as extra friction to move the forward and hopefully get clear of the mud. It's not perfect, but beats having to wait for a Recovery Vehicle.
Originally the M-4 Medium tank (aka the Sherman) originally included fixed twin .30 caliber machine guns, for the driver's position. So everyone except for the loader had a gun they could fire at the enemy, they soon realized that the driver should really be concentrating on driving given how limited his field of view was, so they deleted those guns quickly.
@@Mt-zr5bf Thank you so much, I just looked at their site and the prices are incredible ! Just a 100 euros order to make for free shippings, it's a blast.
Warhammer is a good gateway into the hobby, but it's not the entire hobby. there are lots of amazing manufacturers out there. - really nice tank Guy and hope you do more stuff like this.
The log was common in ww1 and ww2. It was laid in front of the tracks when the tank got stuck in mud so it had something to roll over rather than the tracks just spinning in the mud, making things worse.
Well shit! Guy, youve done it again, you invigorated my love for Warhammer, and now youve provided me a wonderful cheap tank, ive been wanting to paint some more tanks since i got a discounted rhino a while back, but could never justify dropping 60 bucks on a unit that doesnt scale with my modern chaos troops, this chonky tank will definitely be filling out my chaos ranks
The log on the back is something you can drive over or chain to the tread and then drive over to recover the tank if it sinks s bit into soft ground without having to trouble a specialized recovery vehicle.
Great video, Guy. As a guard player myself, I, at first was hesitant to modify tanks as I felt I wouldn't do it justice. Eventually I gathered the courage to bash my first chimera into a Salamander using a chimera chassis, bits of a Baneblade and a heavy weapon team and since then, my tanks have never been without some sort of modification. Its great to see other companies coming out now with new and cheaper vehicles as replacements for the more expensive offerings from GW and with the amount of 3D printing specialists and websites such as the ones you mentioned offering add-ons helps new-comers into modding their vehicles. Based on this video, I will look at buying a few of these for my new Armageddon Steel Legion army! Hoping to show the progress of this on here. Also, The wood at the back of the tanks are used to help get the tank out of boggy ground. they tie the wood to the tracks and it would dig itself out... It was very commonly used on the Eastern front during world war 2 by the Russians!
If you ever want inspiration on how tanks are fitted out, the reason for it, how they attain wear and tear/rust.....then have a look at The Tank Museum, In Bovington UK. Its worth the trip there to see up close all the armour, or to visit on a special day when they have the machines running and doing battles. Feeling a 70 tonne tank moving past you is impressive.....they also do loads of RUclips stuff
11:00 the fabric is likely a tarp to use as a tent or covering if maintenance is required in the rain. The wood is a reference to the infamous Soviet Logs on tanks which would be chained to the tracks to pull the tank out of mud or a ditch if it got stuck. basically chain it crossways to the front or rear of the tracks and its so big in the soft ground that the tank can pull itself free. @midwinterMinis
Ok, I was SO hyped and instantly ordered one. I have to say it’s by far the worst kit I‘ve ever had to glue together. All the tolerances are off, you have to hold every joint of the hull and tracks until it‘s dry. I‘d rather spend more and don’t have to deal with this. I feel like this kit is pretty cool to go straight to the bits box, but nothing more.
Great video! I've started a small Imperial Guard army (1K points) to play with friends and this is a great alternative! I'm saving the Wolverine idea for the future. Thx!
what a wonderful find, will definitely get one for my guard. its a little big, but the overall shape makes me think that itll be a good hellhound after a conversion (change the weapon, add some fuel tanks). wonderful video as always. cheers!
The wood log is an actual thing, on some tanks, though on that model it is far too small It is used to get traction over difficult terrain, and it is placed in the front so the tank can drive over it. But the one on the model is too small, it should be as long as the tank itself is wide, so that it can go under both tracks. You can take a look at a couple of ww2 soviet tanks, they often carry a log for that purpose
The block of wood is *mostly* a soviet/russian thing, if you got your tank stuck in mud, you'd use the log to wedge it under your tracks to give your tank something to grab onto and self recover.
The Cloth is a camo tarp/net and the log is an unditching beam. made famous by the Slavs and Ruskies by having a dedicated log on their tank, most other armies would just fell a tree or use a large pipe.
I am so glad you noticed you glued the plate with the vision ports the wrong way up. Go check them out. They have mostly scenery, but also a few miniatures. And everything quite affordable.
The tank would be a perfect stand in for the carnodan tank from the solar auxilia, it's a resin only tank that serves as a light battle tank and looks like a predator but is slightly bigger
Now, as a IG collector, if I bought that model,I'd die happy. Not only is it painted by my hobby hero, but it looks amazing. It's given me the urge to try to paint an Epic scale tank following this.
The block of wood is to help in re-tracking the vehicle or getting it unstuck if need be. Also the tank is now worth a horus heresy box. (205 US dollars)
The reason you'd never heard of that M2 medium tank is partly because the multiple machine gun concept is a bit awful! 😀 The block of wood is probably supposed to be an unditching beam, but if so then it should be wide enough to attach across both tracks at the same time, so, umm, oops! For something that initially looks so obviously set up to be a proxy for something in 40k when you look at the details the Wolverine is a bit odd. It looks most like an Imperial Guard AFV but it lacks the front hull gun and as you say it has no sponsons. In size and in main armament it seems to be closest to a Leman Russ but the troop compartment would otherwise suggest it's a potential proxy for the Chimera. I think in any case you'd probably want to do a little kit bashing if you wanted it to be a clear proxy for a specific vehicle, but it does look like a good kit. I'd personally prefer that it didn't follow the GW style of having many features that are just bad or confused tank design, but then it wouldn't look like so natural a fit for the 40k universe, would it? 🙂
Haha, exactly. What would a heavily armoured tank be without lots of things that should be very protected and internal being totally exposed on the outside of the hull?!
There is Chimera variant with battle cannon in 40k, it is just rare. It is called Chimeddon. It had rules in 2nd ed. Also another troop carrier with big gun is NT-20 from Forge World Urdesh in Sabbat Cluster...
I admit that the price is indeed an absolute steal .. but no weapon/building options or left over noodly doodly bits are a bit 'meh' - nitpicking, I know. But they could make a great product even greater if they'd include minor customisation parts. Good looking paintjob btw 👍
To be fair, that's the "reason" some of the kits of GW are so expensive, they push the "oh but you have many options and stuff to customize your figurines" even tho you never really get to use them except if you really are into it. I rather pay 31 euros (price of the Tank today) and have a model like this than paying more expensive for some stuff that will be in a box of bits for ages.
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Recently been buying 3D stls for Guard tanks. I appreciate the recognition of proxying other companies. The Dorn hole was a sticking point for me.
Youre going to have Poorhammer knocking on your door if you keep claiming people have to pay for Rhinos 😂
Rhinos are free... loll
Wait, why are Rhinos free?
@@Gidonamor He's joking. Nothing is ever free from GW.
@@GidonamorThe joke is that rhino has been put in so many box sets if you ask someone who's been playing Warhammer for a long time they'll give you a free rhino
@@Gidonamor The elites don't want you to know this, but the rhinos on the veldt are free, you can just take them.
I have like 500 rhinos at home.
The block of wood at the back is supposed to be an unditching tool I believe, in case the tank gets stuck. Wooden logs or beams were sometimes used as improvised armour as well, but given it’s placement I don’t think that’s what they’re going for here.
As an aside, if you ever get the chance I’d recommend checking out some of Rubicon Models’ tank kits- they’re technically in the same scale as warhammer, although due to 40k tanks being massive in-universe they tend to be a bit smaller, unless you’re looking at something like a King Tiger. Quality-wise they’re tied with GW and Victrix’s new releases imo!
EDIT: also, regarding Guilliman Blue, I don’t have a bottle to compare them, but Duncan Rhodes’ Two Thin Coats range has a similar blue glaze, that might be of interest,
AHA! I knew someone would instantly know, haha. Thanks for sharing your knowledge, buddy!
@@MidwinterMinis I’m glad my extremely niche knowledge finally came in handy!
If anyone is looking for a in-depth discussion of the log; ruclips.net/video/y-6vLJi4xOs/видео.html
If you want extra realism, hang a bucket off of the back of the tank.
@@sonicapollo what is this thing with buckets hanging from the rear of tank models ?
the log is used when the tank is stuck in muddy terrain. you put it under the tracks to give grip
Often found on soviet tanks, that one's too thin though
@@whatintheuniverse4050 Other log found on soviet tanks was the one we Finns stuck between tracks and wheels to immobilize it before throwing Molotow's Coctail in to engine...
The contrast between the endearing passion of 40k hobbyists and them constantly taking the piss out of the people running the whole thing reminds me of my Catholic upbringing
Yeeeeaaaah I went to a catholic school, so that tracks, haha
Warhammer Guilt is a real thing. 💀💀💀💀
Bless me, Inquisitor, I have sinned…
@@steppeone ... it has been five weeks since my last exterminatus.
Who better to mock something than those closest to itm
As someone who owns the model, just throwing on a pair of russ sponsons seems to beef it out is enough to justify calling it a rogal dorn. Genuinely love this kit, and I'm glad to see it mentioned
Yeah! Adding the width makes it way more WORRHAMUH
This was a great video. I'm slowly getting into 3rd party minis to play with. I just want original looking models and armys
@@MidwinterMinis I've heard people tell me that girth matters. I assume this must be what they are referring to. 🤔
why not call it a baneblade while we're at it 🤣
Yeah I got some kromlech sponsons. It's noticeably bigger than a russ and almost royal dorm sized
Regarding the log: The Log(tm) was used to help with traction. If a tank ever got stuck in mud or boggy terrain, it would be put in front of the tracks to provide enough grip to get unstuck. You'll see them on the rear and sides of a lot of Soviet tanks, and on the side of Fury in the movie Fury
You're a hero! Thank you for sharing :)
@@MidwinterMinis No prob! Also was sort of used as improvised armor in that sense too on the sides. Didn't really do much, same for any sandbags or track lengths that you'd see on the sides of the hull and turret or on the front of the hull, and I think in some cases would be worse, but it made the tankers feel safer and in that sense commanders just let their guys do their thing if it made them feel safer.
It's a good way of adding some extra flavor to vehicle models too
@@JoCocomotypically tanks with wooden armor are seen in the pacific front. It was used to prevent magnetic mines from sticking to the sides of tanks
It helps that it's big, it's heavy, and it's wood.
@@JoCocomo It's worth noting that "log armour" does actually provide some protection! ... against explosive shells, which were unlikely to penetrate anyway. Against armour-piercing shells, it was essentially pointless.
It's possible, though, that improvised armour did cushion the crew against the impact of non-penetrating shots. This does remind me of the old "Extra Armour" upgrade available to Imperial/Chaos vehicles in older editions of the rules. This upgrade didn't reduce the likelihood of the vehicle sustaining damage, but it did slightly reduce the severity of minor damage.
So, this tank is a playable model in Mantic's Sci-Fi game Firefight, and they actually produce conversion kits to make it into an APC.
some places offer the three pack of this tank that comes with resin apc tops too.
Mantic does that as well
It's already an Infantry Fighting Vehicle.
The resin addons are also available to 3d print from their Vault!
The biggest giveaway that this isn't an official Games Workshop model is the fact that the tank makes sense in its design.
My spouse pointed out that the Guilliman Blue glaze looks like it's the blue that was discontinued because automakers stopped ordering it, and without them, there wasn't enough demand for that particular pigment. As, well, hobbyists and painters are a minuscule fraction of the automotive industry's buying power.
Pretty sure welding the door closed probably breaches some part or other of the codex astartes.
Keep the squishy spoice muhreens safe inside.
Black Templars: "The what now?"
Just make it choas and say they became one with their tank
Careful, Leandros Might be listening and report him to the nearest inquisitor.
Certainly might result in a knock from the Ordo Salus et Securitas
I have a Guard army that's mostly non-GW parts that I've been kitbashing together for a few years, and these are gonna make a perfect addition. I love the idea that they have a somewhat eclectic mix of slightly obscure or forgotten variants of standard tanks like the Leman Russ, so I'm going to have some fun adding these to the collection. And at that price, I can pick up two of them for about the same price as one official Leman Russ/Rogal Dorn, so it feels like a no-brainer.
Thank you for shining a spotlight on this, I have immediately bought 2! XD
Thanks for the shout out 😁. Awesome looking tank especially with that paint job. I did just bid on it but it's got away from me. I would go for the dorn proxi myself and find some places to add guns... cut the bottom out.
To quote another MinisTuber, "Any game is minis agnostic if you believe in yourself." Don't buy GW if you don't want to.
11:05 If your tank gets stuck in the mud, you can lodge the wooden log under the tracks to get some traction and get yourself unstuck.
They used to use wood logs and sleepers to help tanks get out of mud. Attach to the front of the tracks and then they pull themselves out with it
Clever!
This is absolutely amazing! Would love more of videos like this just shedding light on some third party cheap but still very cool models!
I need to see this against the newer horus heresy Lemans Russ
Looking at the pics, I reckon it's probably going to be dead on!
Actually just painted that and this recently (as well as a predator). With the rear protruding bits from the russ and the front dozer it's basically the same length, but this is still wider and just looks 'chunkier' side by side. Like Guy showed in the video it sits near perfectly (and awkwardly) as a halfway between a Russ and a Dorn
Guy's obvious pleasure at his transition to the ad-read got a solid laugh out of me.
The fact that Guy glued the front viewing slits on to the tank upside down made my knuckles ache. I'm glad to see that he corrected this before painting.
There are plenty for tank models in the rightish scale, so proxys are nevera problem. dont ask my why my guard from planet albion 6 has very british looking tanks
That's why Imperial Guard is the 2nd best 40k army.
You know what the best one is.
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!
That video make me sad. This is why I got into the hobby for : be creative, customize my models...
And then, right as I was finishing my first army, I had to move to a new city where the only association of player revolve around the local GW store, and I've been told that even my seraphim with custodes jet-pack are a hard no, while being 100% GW material.
That sucks. No other options?
@@kudosbudo I tried to find players interested in more fun or narrative experiences through My Hobby App, but apparently this app isn't that popular in this region,, unlike where I was for my previous job.
But I don't plan on keeping my current job... Maybe my next contract will be in a better city ? And until then, I convert models and improve my painting skills. And try to develop my own digital tool for managing armies lists, narrative campaigns and custom rules. It keep me busy in my free time... ^^
My GW forbid me to use Vindictors instead of Vanquishers in spearhead despite the models just having a spear with the same profile as the swords
Ah, the slow death of the hobby as ai like to refer to it. Been playing for 35 years, and encountered that too many times.
Just sticking to gaming at home with friends now.
@@ARandomPerson66 so weird, my local shop lets me play with a an about half kitbashed guard army ( albeit kitbashed with GW material though ), even posted one of my conversions on the shop's facebook page
Two things, mud goes on wet and then starts to dry from the outside of the splash/splotch. So for mud effects, I'd go for a lighter colour higher up the vehicle and on the outer parts of lower mud areas then overlay that with your darker earth effects. Second, please try to fill the gaps on the reserve fuel tanks (or whatever they are) at the back of the vehicle. They really break the illusion! 😀😀😀
It is an unditching log. Super common on Soviet and Russian tanks.
Unditching Log. Name of my next album.
Mantic sells this as well. They offer a resin cast APC variant turret replacement. Not sure if its available seperately tho.
They do! Looks like the APC version is sold out at the moment though. Hopefully they'll get it back in stock soon.
I assume, since it's a plastic kit on sprues, you probably get the plastic turrets along with it? It would be weird if they removed sprues from the kit to include the resin bits.
@@Bluecho4 that's exactly how it is. It's just an extra piece they include if you order the APC variant.
@@Bluecho4 The APC turret bit from Mantic is in their resin.
Just came back from a war museum in Brussels they have a Mk 4 UK WW1 tank in there, the thing IS a Leman Russ!! It also had the block of wood I was told it had something to do with helping getting across treaches.
Even my local games workshop store inside the u.s allows for non games workshop as long as your army is majority Warhammer
That's very cool of them!
My local GW in the UK used to not let you use Forge World because you can’t buy it in store…
@@theonlyenicfanever5346 I heard there was a GW store in Spain that wouldn't let you use OOP Citadel/GW minis since they were no longer available to purchase.
This model looks great, Well worth it for 25 quid over a Russ. Great paintjob on it too mate. The prices of some of those little barrels and extra bits for the tanks was crazy. £15 for a barrel and 13.50 for stick on "duel filters" seems nuts to me. Even the alterative brands are getting very pricey now. Mad because we are in a time where parts are easier than ever to produce.
Might be worth testing out the glazes from the Two Thin Coats range to see if they're a good replacement for the discontinued Citadel ones. Could be a fun video!
Great idea Kate! Thanks pal
I think ToP did exactly that. I was very excited that there was finally a replacement for Lamenter's Yellow. Too bad none of the stores around me that carry 2TC have the wave 2 paints.
Haha I have one of these wolverine tanks and I’m surprised to see a video on it! Love how the kit was simple and pretty chill. I use it with my guard PDF as a APC like a Bradley. I mostly collect and paint and play for fun/house rules with family and friends.
The block of wood is for when the tank gets stuck in mud or a ditch. you tie it to the track for more traction, move forward, undo, repeat until you are unstuck from your earthen prison
Russian and Soviet tanks had long braces of wood on the back of their tank for aid to tracks to help when they get stuck in mud. Finnish tanks in WWII (ex. Stug) often put logs of wood on the side for extra armour.
There are plenty for tank models in the rightish scale, so proxys are nevera problem. dont ask my why my guard from planet albion 6 has very british looking tanks.
Obviously, your army's local manufactora have access to rare STC patterns.
@@Bluecho4 or they improvised the design when the local mechanicus were not looking.
Which model kits do you use?
Probably Tamiya 1/48 series. A small real tank might work. 28mm is about 1/53 as I recall.
I love seeing pioneering tools, the wooden block for unsticking tracks, the canvas tarp, etc. Really makes it feel real. Too many fictional tanks ignore real ergonomics and details
I've eyed the Wolverine before, and at times I got scared off because it's not a "foorprint" match to a Leman Russ.
But this video reminded me what I should never forget: I am probably never going to play Warhammer 40K in and of itself. If I get to playing with my Warhammer minis, it will be in Grimdark Future. Moreover, my whole Guard army will be proxies from Wargames Atlantic (when my order of "The Damned" finally ships). Why should I care about size discrepancies?
I really should just order a Wolverine or two sometimes down the line. Probably AFTER the rest of the army comes in and I've had a chance to paint some squads. It looks good. (Maybe the turret options from Victoria Miniatures would fit the Wolverine?)
A couple of third party sponsons and that would look like a proper Leman Russ in my eyes. It also looks like an appropriate size for a Rhino or Predator (which is definitely undersized relative to modern minis).
I'm glad I bought a few bottles of nuln oil when I heard it was changing. It was definitely a good investment.
The tank log is used to provide traction to get the tank unstuck from mud, usually found in soviet tanks. However this log is way to small for that. Also one more negative id like to add is the hardness of the plastic. Mine ruined a knife blade
Yeah, it feels like that older, really firm plastic GW used to make stuff out of in the early 00s.
@@MidwinterMinis cant speak for those times lol. I was born in '00
Honey midwinter posted again🎉
Absolutely SLAMMIN' it right now
Hi Guy, Military Armourer here, the plank of wood is known as an unditching log or beam. It's purpose it's not very exciting and quite simple. It's used to place under the tracks and provide more traction in muddy boggy conditions often to get them unstuck. Lots of tanks also had logs and planks strapped to their side as aditional armour during the second World War but it provided little protection.
Very nice video. Tank turned out fantastic. Would be really interesting to investigate why that one certain dark oil shade paint didn't workout. Loved the camouflage patterns. Looking forward to the next video. Keep up the good work.
The best minis are those that get painted! Fantastic work!
Exactly! :)
@@MidwinterMinisbought a copy from my local store. With exchangerate 339 sek/24gbp. Absolute bargain. Have a lot of spares from my dorns, so this will be an easy conversion (hopefully). Thanks!
so idk if someone answered, always a bit late to videos. The block of wood was mainly used in tanks during WW1 to help get out of mud and craters in no man's land, as it helped give more traction- hopes that helps, guy!
The wood on the back of the tank was popular in WW1 & 2 as tanks would often get stuck in mud and it was used to help give tanks traction to get out of problem spaces.
13:01 my wallet won't hate me then 😂
Block of Wood:
It’s a landing point for the jack. For when you have to lift up part of the tank and change out a wheel or fix tread, ect
You’re style and tone of this video is so kind and welcoming. People in the hobby should always try to expand their horizons.
Love how they added the log but it is a bit small so I wonder if the sculptor even knows what it does and is usually as wide as the vehicle.
Maybe the tank crew just fell for the Ren & Stimpy LOG commercial?
I have one of Archon studios dragon's, and holy hell was it amazing for the price!
I know right?! I just got the xenodragon and it's AWESOME... apart from the wobbly base
I'm slowly buying them all, I'm probably a bit obsessed.
11:03
Hi!
Wood logs are helpful to pin underneath the tracks when tanks get stuck in muddy areas, it's been used ever since the tanks been tanking. Tarps (like the one on the model) are used for covering up the engine/other open ports when in transit under another vehicles power (i.e trains, trucks, etc.) to keep it clear of dust.
The wood bar is used to free the tank if it gets stuck in mud.
11:02 The Wood block is used to be tied to the tracks if the tank is stuck in mud. The tank is supposed to lift it self out of the mud with the increased tracktion by driving over the woodbeam. The one on this model is way too short though. It should be at least as wide as the outside of the tracks.
11:06 don’t quote me on this but things like those were used as makeshift bridges/supports on areas of the battlefield that a smaller tank can’t quite get over, such as a wide trench
It’s also used by the mauraders and GCPS in Mantics firefight. It comes with a resin turret from Mantic to convert it into an apc.
most soviet era tank models carry a wooden log on the rear to help with getting unstuck in muddy terrain. shove it under a track to gain some traction. works with wheeled vehicles, too.
Mantic Games has/uses these in firefight, ao they have resin pieces for the turret cover to turn it to a transport trooper carrier.
The Block of wood is called a "Tank Log", it's still standard kit on alot of Russian and Ukrainian tanks in the current war. It's used to help get tanks out from being stuck in muddy pits as the tank treads will grab the log, and us it as extra friction to move the forward and hopefully get clear of the mud. It's not perfect, but beats having to wait for a Recovery Vehicle.
Originally the M-4 Medium tank (aka the Sherman) originally included fixed twin .30 caliber machine guns, for the driver's position. So everyone except for the loader had a gun they could fire at the enemy, they soon realized that the driver should really be concentrating on driving given how limited his field of view was, so they deleted those guns quickly.
Glad you rectified the hull vision slits, I was getting triggered lol.
Great job as usual good sir!
OH NOOO! Haha, I was hoping no one would notice. When I started painting I was like "oh... oh no... oh no no no."
I have three of this and i played 25€ each, Euros, not pound.
And this thing is more detailed as the regular Chimera!
Wow! That's a sensational price
@@MidwinterMinis indeed, i got Mine from the German Site kutami
@@Mt-zr5bf Thank you so much, I just looked at their site and the prices are incredible ! Just a 100 euros order to make for free shippings, it's a blast.
I got a free one of these when i joined the Kickstarter. I turned it into terrain, but the build quality is great!
Warhammer is a good gateway into the hobby, but it's not the entire hobby. there are lots of amazing manufacturers out there. - really nice tank Guy and hope you do more stuff like this.
The log was common in ww1 and ww2. It was laid in front of the tracks when the tank got stuck in mud so it had something to roll over rather than the tracks just spinning in the mud, making things worse.
Well shit! Guy, youve done it again, you invigorated my love for Warhammer, and now youve provided me a wonderful cheap tank, ive been wanting to paint some more tanks since i got a discounted rhino a while back, but could never justify dropping 60 bucks on a unit that doesnt scale with my modern chaos troops, this chonky tank will definitely be filling out my chaos ranks
Awesome! So glad I could give your hobby energy a little boost. Have fun, mate!
The log on the back is something you can drive over or chain to the tread and then drive over to recover the tank if it sinks s bit into soft ground without having to trouble a specialized recovery vehicle.
Great video, Guy. As a guard player myself, I, at first was hesitant to modify tanks as I felt I wouldn't do it justice. Eventually I gathered the courage to bash my first chimera into a Salamander using a chimera chassis, bits of a Baneblade and a heavy weapon team and since then, my tanks have never been without some sort of modification.
Its great to see other companies coming out now with new and cheaper vehicles as replacements for the more expensive offerings from GW and with the amount of 3D printing specialists and websites such as the ones you mentioned offering add-ons helps new-comers into modding their vehicles.
Based on this video, I will look at buying a few of these for my new Armageddon Steel Legion army! Hoping to show the progress of this on here.
Also, The wood at the back of the tanks are used to help get the tank out of boggy ground. they tie the wood to the tracks and it would dig itself out... It was very commonly used on the Eastern front during world war 2 by the Russians!
Instructions unclear: got my block of wood stuck in the Dorn hole
A lot of GTs and RTTs allow proxies like this. I like how you used blue tack to make the camo pattern
If you ever want inspiration on how tanks are fitted out, the reason for it, how they attain wear and tear/rust.....then have a look at The Tank Museum, In Bovington UK. Its worth the trip there to see up close all the armour, or to visit on a special day when they have the machines running and doing battles. Feeling a 70 tonne tank moving past you is impressive.....they also do loads of RUclips stuff
The wood is for in case the tank gets stuck in mud or another way. Put that under the treads to gain some traction and you can get rolling again.
11:00 the fabric is likely a tarp to use as a tent or covering if maintenance is required in the rain. The wood is a reference to the infamous Soviet Logs on tanks which would be chained to the tracks to pull the tank out of mud or a ditch if it got stuck. basically chain it crossways to the front or rear of the tracks and its so big in the soft ground that the tank can pull itself free. @midwinterMinis
Ok, I was SO hyped and instantly ordered one. I have to say it’s by far the worst kit I‘ve ever had to glue together. All the tolerances are off, you have to hold every joint of the hull and tracks until it‘s dry.
I‘d rather spend more and don’t have to deal with this. I feel like this kit is pretty cool to go straight to the bits box, but nothing more.
Great video! I've started a small Imperial Guard army (1K points) to play with friends and this is a great alternative! I'm saving the Wolverine idea for the future. Thx!
what a wonderful find, will definitely get one for my guard. its a little big, but the overall shape makes me think that itll be a good hellhound after a conversion (change the weapon, add some fuel tanks). wonderful video as always. cheers!
Best MWM Video Yet, Jokes are top Notch!
Wow! That's high praise! Thanks so much
Looks especially good as a base for Ork looted wagons or even a battlewagon with some heavy conversion.
1. That tank kit is sweet.
2. Awesome to see you rocking a Dark Rook t-shirt
I actually love the look of this tank. Ive never been a massive fan of GW traditional tanks for some reason.
The wood log is an actual thing, on some tanks, though on that model it is far too small
It is used to get traction over difficult terrain, and it is placed in the front so the tank can drive over it. But the one on the model is too small, it should be as long as the tank itself is wide, so that it can go under both tracks. You can take a look at a couple of ww2 soviet tanks, they often carry a log for that purpose
looks like an at70 from the udesh foundries. Used by the arch enemy
The block of wood is *mostly* a soviet/russian thing, if you got your tank stuck in mud, you'd use the log to wedge it under your tracks to give your tank something to grab onto and self recover.
I got one with their kick starter. Lots of fun to build. Gave it a Grot commander
The Cloth is a camo tarp/net and the log is an unditching beam. made famous by the Slavs and Ruskies by having a dedicated log on their tank, most other armies would just fell a tree or use a large pipe.
I like the idea of using these for our Traitor Guard.
I am so glad you noticed you glued the plate with the vision ports the wrong way up.
Go check them out. They have mostly scenery, but also a few miniatures. And everything quite affordable.
I too miss the old glazes Guy, i use whats left of mine very sparingly now.
The tank would be a perfect stand in for the carnodan tank from the solar auxilia, it's a resin only tank that serves as a light battle tank and looks like a predator but is slightly bigger
the log is for putting underneath the tracks, to add grip in case you are REALLY stuck
Sweet shout Guy! Defo getting some 🤘🏻
Nice, happy to share the knowledge!
Now, as a IG collector, if I bought that model,I'd die happy. Not only is it painted by my hobby hero, but it looks amazing. It's given me the urge to try to paint an Epic scale tank following this.
I don't have this kit, but I was really happy with Archon's Mammoth walker.
The block of wood is to help in re-tracking the vehicle or getting it unstuck if need be.
Also the tank is now worth a horus heresy box. (205 US dollars)
8:00 mind you, I voted yes on that, but my orks are 90% printed proxies. I played at the store, just no tournament
Thanks to this video, I am putting together a shopping list for a new Guard armored column.
13:18 I love storm chimeras and such, might actually check one out and homebrew a rule sheet.
I figured a Krieg paintjob would be in order, considering the tank mounts a half dozen trench tools.
The reason you'd never heard of that M2 medium tank is partly because the multiple machine gun concept is a bit awful! 😀 The block of wood is probably supposed to be an unditching beam, but if so then it should be wide enough to attach across both tracks at the same time, so, umm, oops!
For something that initially looks so obviously set up to be a proxy for something in 40k when you look at the details the Wolverine is a bit odd. It looks most like an Imperial Guard AFV but it lacks the front hull gun and as you say it has no sponsons. In size and in main armament it seems to be closest to a Leman Russ but the troop compartment would otherwise suggest it's a potential proxy for the Chimera. I think in any case you'd probably want to do a little kit bashing if you wanted it to be a clear proxy for a specific vehicle, but it does look like a good kit. I'd personally prefer that it didn't follow the GW style of having many features that are just bad or confused tank design, but then it wouldn't look like so natural a fit for the 40k universe, would it? 🙂
Haha, exactly. What would a heavily armoured tank be without lots of things that should be very protected and internal being totally exposed on the outside of the hull?!
There is Chimera variant with battle cannon in 40k, it is just rare. It is called Chimeddon. It had rules in 2nd ed. Also another troop carrier with big gun is NT-20 from Forge World Urdesh in Sabbat Cluster...
One step closer to branching out to Firefight by Mantic 🤞
I got one of these and didn't glue the top of the hull on, because I stuck an Ork driver inside the front compartment. Love the kit
I admit that the price is indeed an absolute steal .. but no weapon/building options or left over noodly doodly bits are a bit 'meh' - nitpicking, I know. But they could make a great product even greater if they'd include minor customisation parts. Good looking paintjob btw 👍
To be fair, that's the "reason" some of the kits of GW are so expensive, they push the "oh but you have many options and stuff to customize your figurines" even tho you never really get to use them except if you really are into it. I rather pay 31 euros (price of the Tank today) and have a model like this than paying more expensive for some stuff that will be in a box of bits for ages.
Humour and personality are spot on here 👌
Aw, thanks bud! I had fun making this one :)