I mean it's just Trump, not "the presidential candidates" or something. Trump is fully responsible for how dumb these debates become. "THEY'RE EATING THE DOGS"
@@JackRabbit1612 because people enjoy the gratification of getting atrioc to read their chat messages and if they have information he doesn't know then they're more likely to get read
I miss the presidentially debates from my youth when they asked the questions that really matter.... like asking Baby Bush about what his favorite xmas song was
@@iy2147 Harris/Walz. I was somewhat leaning to them because I really don't like Trump, but my family has always voted Republican (myself included) and there are a lot of democratic policies that I don't agree with. But actually listening to people talk policy here helped a lot. Vance's stance on climate change is just stupid, plain and simple. And I agree with Walz on a lot more than I expected.
@@explainus3207I mean atrioc definitely has some bias towards progressives, but also, the dude makes unbiased and often well educated observations in terms of economics. Given trump and Vance’s plans for the economy (ESPECIALLY trumps) are not great for the economy, I think it’s fair to want to show some support to Kamala and walz. Especially considering JD Vance notoriously changes his beliefs to suit the situation, so any more moderate beliefs he shows may be what he believes or may just be to win votes.
Zoning laws are local, federal government has no power over them. If you want more houses built in your city, the mayoral and city council races are more important.
Are you guys dum? he says dont blame the immigrants for their actions, blame kamala for letting it happen in the first place. higher immigration does lead to higher prices. average kamala voters can't keep track of a conversation.
He's specifying the difference between blaming migrants themselves and the actions being taken He wasn't blaming immigrants for higher housing prices. He was blaming the current administrations placement of the current migrants and their lack of (illegal) immigration prevention.
Listen I get that atrioc is biased but why I see a commenter saying if you wanted an "unbiased" review to look at asmongold's?! I mean cmon brother that's just switching the bias😂
If people actually care about people being unbiased, why not just watch the debate yourself without a commentator lol. By "unbiased" people usually just mean "has my bias"
@@gabrielhicks8043I mean watching commentators from both sides of the isle with biases is a good idea, although asmon is pretty far right and atrioc is probably not the left leaning equivalent (he has said he supported Romney in 2012), cus they provide insight and commentary in favour of both sides
Strange statement but in his defense, when big A was laughing so much you couldn't hear Vance, he goes on and explains the point he was trying to make and why the "fact check" was kind of misleading. A lot of times politicians straight up lie, but in some cases the problem is way to nuanced to be shut down with a one-line "fact check".
To be fair, they didn't fact check Walz live, but if you actually look at their fact check on their website, he lied and misleaded people just as much as Vance did. I'm all for fact checking candidates, but there's a clear bias here.
I haven’t watched this video yet but when watching the thing live I was baffled at how openly JD was like “i won’t answer or talk of the past as I’m focused on the future, anyway, in the past you…”
My favourite part was when the glizzatron directly intervened, jumping out of his chair to suddenly be on screen in the debate to catch Walz’ fist just before it collided with JD Breathtaking reflexes and speed from the the glizzy glozzy glizzomatic
Europoor here... the doors of our school were only locked after classes were over... no metal detectors... no police... no security... never had to learn how to hide from someone trying to shoot me or anything.... ohhh also i'm in Switzerland we have like the 3rd most guns per capita in the world
@@lolsalad52 i mean sure guns are PART of the problem... less guns makes it easier to not shoot someone... but culture and fetishisation of guns is a way bigger problem
I used to live in Switzerland as well and loved it! But the countries are so different from each other and cant be treated as the same. Like military service is required from all men where you are issued a gun. A lot of men keep their service weapons but not for a personal use. The culture around firearms in the two countries is kind of flip flopped and I don't think it will be able to change sadly. Not arguing or anything because all you said was factual information but you didn't seem to propose any solution either so.
@@lolsalad52It’s kinda both. For it to be, Yknow, safe for a country to have gun ownership, you need to have a strong mental health system and a good economic state of the country, otherwise people are more likely to use them for crime. But ideally you also want some regulations, whether that is who can buy guns, or what guns you can buy.
It's because it's always propaganda, The Mainstream media has long been owned by Democrats, ie. The 3 year conspiracy theory of trump being a Russian agent, including even Tulsi Gabbard a known veteran. They make up conspiracy theories dumber and less credible than Alex Jones himself. All of COVID censorship and Hunter Biden laptop censorship was "fact checking"
I would seriously prefer if these were on some kind of streaming service where they had a much more relaxed time limit, its so dumb seeing them both only get half a counter argument in before being made to continue
@@Zakibey123extend the time slot then. Y’know what happens right after the debate ends, people on cbs react to the debate. It’s not like what happens right after is more critical than the debate itself. You don’t cut off a sports game because there’s a limited time slot it goes how long it goes, do the same thing for debates.
I live 90 minutes away of the US border growing up i have never heard of local school shooting, i never had any kind of drills related to anything else but fires and the concept of a bulletproof backpack would have never cross my mind. That shit is fucked to grow up in
Bro same i never heard a warning about shooters but always got the presentations and school only had security guards because of fights that occasionally happens
I live in the US, 5 mins from the Tijuana Border. I cannot think of any actual school shooting happening around here in my twenty years of living here (Only a scare at SWC AFAIK). I'm more worried about getting robbed on the bus, than shot in a school.
this VP is the oldest politician i have seen where i was impressed with the clear tone and very understandable to even have emotions get him to read audio books he will do great with it
He's actually not that old compared to the standards we're used to at this point. He's 60, that's only 1 year older than Harris. Vance is 40 and Trump is 78 for reference.
It's pretty insufferable when atrioc pays close attention during Walz talking and then laughs and reads chat while Vance is talking so that he can't hear what's being said.
Just a quick point on Atrioc's statement about Chinese energy, we don't get it directly. However, when you import anything from China, you are indirectly importing energy, because Chinese energy was needed to produce those goods. So by outsourcing production to China, you are decreasing American energy demand and increasing Chinese energy demand. Vance said it pretty poorly, but that is the anti-China argument that Vance was attempting to say.
Vance also said that economists lied when they said we would get cheaper goods by importing from China. We do get cheaper goods, but at the cost of quality and nondomestic energy use. If he really meant to say that imported goods equates to imported power, then he was double dipping and his argument was in bad faith.
I’m just gonna dump some EIA data and back of napkin calculations (some of the numbers were in barrels per day) about 1.7 trillion (10^12) BTU’s we produce daily goes to china. On a yearly basis, 635 trillion (10^12) BTU’s. We internally produce 102.82 quadrillion (10^15) BTU’s a year. We consume 93.59 quadrillion (10^15) BTU’s a year. We export 29.5 quadrillion (10^15) BTU’s yearly. We import 21.7 quadrillion (10^15) BTU’s yearly. Assuming these barrels are the only energy we export, china makes up about 2% of our crude oil exports.
There is no way this is what he meant with that. Your comment sounds exactly like those star wars theory channels that fix plot holes for the actual writers by stringing together a somewhat reasonable explanation for the errors in the source material
It makes sense that Tim Walz wants to encourage single-family home purchasing and construction, considering he is from Minnesota. But it would make more sense for the platform to encourage multi-family housing.
condo apartments work out well Chicago is doing a new legislative experiment right now, homes aboce 2 million being sold pay 3% tax that gets directly shuffled to make homes more affordable, not folded into state budget. and 1.5% for homes at 1 million +
There is plenty of multi-family housing, it's just that the retired and elderly folks don't want to give it up, and in turn the housing market skyrockets in price.
@@biteofdog10.5% of homes are empty in America, mainly owned by companies from what I know. Mayyybe that's a problem with people not being able to find a place
@@aaronb4936 he fucked up his words up. Vance said "rules were u werent gonna fact check". Both sides made a mistake in speech, Vance had a lack of actual points
Truth be told it's hard to gauge how good Kamala is, considering her opponent was Trump. Dude's entire M.O. is derailing on the debate floor, and dragging people down.
@@JustAJauneArcI don’t think think he has succeeded Doing that to her as much as his previous opponents like Biden or in 2016. She keeps speaking generally about specific issues, which is no way to beat another politician that does the same thing. Whether or not they both do that to pander to the widest fan base or they really just don’t get the issues? That’s up for debate
Lack of border enforcement/funding, outsourcing national production to foreign countries leading to instability in the national economy, lack of federal response to hurricane victims; ($750 per household to specific demographics while illegals get upwards of $2000 a month individually), excessive funding to foreign wars without strong executive action to end them, as well as lack of federal aid to veterans and other groups of legal citizens.
its not that he cant. The average American voter is fueled by hate. They do not think highly of us, so they are not going to have a (example!), calculus conversation with people who failed algebra in tenth grade
@@mad1337nes true. its hard to find kamala harris' bad policies because whenever the public starts to disagree with them, they magically change to the popular opinion.
To be fair to your point, the comments section is a place for your own commentary on the video. It's exactly the right place to complain or voice your opinion on it.
@@brizzled5193 comparing asmongold to hasan is crazy. hasan is left wing extremist and asmongold flips between left and right depending on the issue. comments reflect that
@@abc-z7j I do agree with you that asmongold does flip right and left at times, but his fans and community I dislike heavily they are just so toxic and aggressive at times.
Future generations are going to be in class having a debate and drop the absolute meme of a line "The rules were you guys weren't going to fact check" XD
? I mean the rules are suppose to be upheld... And secondly, "fact checking" has been a hyperbolic euphamism for a while now. The entire media has been very partisan for a long time, and all the press are only hostile to one party and their "fact checking" is the same. Even in this debate, the only time the moderators made unprompted statements that were not questions was against the Republicans... Even though at the very beginning, the moderators established that the deabtors would have to fact check each-other... So why do the mods feel the need to step in and bat for one side?
@@21area21 I used to follow the channel (or rather main channel) pretty religiously, but I grew up and logic started kicking in. I now only pop in once in a while to get an idea of what people with different views from mine think. It's rough because people can't put themselves in the shoes of the other side.
@@21area21because when one side is blatantly lying or making up/misrepresenting things and the other doesn't…only one side is going to get moderated. I mean Trump literally claimed a guy wanted to execute babies which was just a blatant lie.
100%, the moderators seem to really interfere in the debates, on both sides. It’s like they act as if it’s a talk show and they’re the host. You’re a moderator, just moderate!
@sometimessomething4734 Exactly. They think "oh finally I'll have my time in the spotlight. Time to act as asinine as possible. Look at me, a news anchor (probably) bossing the future VP around" What a joke smh
Grew up in MN, gotta say I am usually pretty proud of my state (except DMV). Tim just kind of reminds of nice dudes my parents would talk to in church in the suburbs.
Even if I wasn't predisposed against Vance, harping on energy costs is such a bad attack route. My guy, I just filled up my car for under $3 for the first time in a while. I'm sure it's not the same everywhere in the country, but when you're trying to tell all of America a "great truth" to rally them behind you and the world outside my door and I'm my community is telling me something different, it's not effective. Even if I'm a die hard Republican, hearing him complain about energy cost and then seeing my month bills be pretty low compared to previous years should create dissonance
Republicans have resorted themselves to live in delusion. I don't just say this, I mean delusion in the clinical sense, truth doesn't mean anything anymore. Truth is now whatever the fuck confirms my bias even if all evidence points to the contrary. These people are lost to a cult of personality.
All the Atrepublicans coming out in the comment section. Every person reacting to a debate is going to be biased. If you dont like it then don't watch.
Of course he's going to be biased. That's why I'm watching, to get his unique perspective. I didn't actually get that though because he never responded to anything Vance said, he just laughed and misinterpreted things on purpose.
"A lot of economists attack donald trump's plans and they have phds but they don't have common sense and wisdom." That is easily one of the stupidest things I've ever heard.
Not at all. Economics is as far away from a tangible proof based field as philosophy or queer gender studies. Obama's administration and this Biden administration made economic policies the economists have recommended but caused bigger issues because it didn't understand a basic concept of supply and demand. Not to mention, all universities have a huge left wing rot going on because A. if you're a socialist or communist you can't make it in the real world, and B. China has a huge influence because most of university money comes from overseas students. Don't pretend like you know anything scholarly when you call us to "trust the experts" which is in complete opposition to the scientific method and you're voting for Kamala Harris who wants "price caps on food" which is THE gateway to bread lines in a communist country spiral. An idea she probably got from her COMMUNIST PHD DAD
Yea most stupid thing I've heard. If you needed urgent surgery for a heart transplant would you rather have a guy with a PhD or some dude off the street that says he has "common sense" and "wisdom." I'd obviously choose the guy with years of experience and certification on the topic.
@@jlolo33321there's so many different economic styles taught at many different colleges, depends on where you got your degree, it's not an exact science as it's based on human behaviour, not biology
28:09 🦎: "Great show today!" 🦎: "Can't have the hufolk losing _all_ trust, after all." 🦎: "So are you actually going to fulfill those promises if you win?" 🦎: "Lmao no" 🦎: "Saame" 🦎: *laughs in lizard* 🦎: *laughs in lizard*
4:10 “The rules were that you guys weren’t going to fact check and since you’re fact checking I think it’s important to say what’s actually going on” is CRAZY
@chubbyanemone696 even if that were the case the moderators said they won't fact check and that it's up to the debators. Did you see the moderators finish off a line from waltz that his previous statements weren't true. It's not like only one side lies.
I watched the full debate live and I felt that the point where Vance corrected the fact checkers and had his mic shut down was powerful. He seemed to really know his stuff and owned these mods who came in looking to take Walz's side. I was disappointed you didn't include any of that in the video. Once I saw that I decided to stop watching the video. I'm interested in seeing real reaction from someone considering both sides, even if they lean one way over the other, but if you're just going to show the portions you think one side look bad and cut the rest out it makes it rather uninteresting. I hate the media, Fox is very far right wing, CNN and others and very far left wing, almost impossible to get a real look at what's happening without watching all the live interviews, speeches, and debates before seeing any commentary, forming opinions based on what you observe, then subject yourself to the commentary afterwards.
I felt the same way. It sounded like he was forcing out laughs sometimes just to drown out what vance had to say. Watching the debate unfiltered was way better than this.
I liked the debate, both sides had a good points, the most I disagreed at any point was morally but that’s entirely personal and everyone has different morales. I believe that if every debate was like this, America would be a better country.
Move almost all energy-intensive operations elsewhere (china) and then say how green your manufacturing is because you dont have to rely on coal as much anymore. Isnt it fun how stupidly easy "clean energy" is? And then you can start burning *literal wood* because some bloke in 2000`s said that it was a clean energy source.
@@alexturnbackthearmy1907 Even not considering that the US isn't anywhere near the cleanest in the world, you guys are just so used to hear politicians say you're the best at everything that you assume it's at least somewhat based on truth, but here it really isn't. "Clean energy" (for what it's worth) in the US is about 40% of total energy production, there are countries over 95%.
Atrioc is the most random RUclipsr. I understand the election has an effect on the economy, and that’s like a big part of his brand. But I never expected him to be the best source of news on RUclips 🤣 I’m a big fan of this kinda content
This was a great and respectful debate, both sides made it clear they don't agree with each other, though it was obviously "politicy" in the sense they only talk about the positives (or what they believe as positives) of their policies and avoid the possible "growing pains" of the policy's but that's to be expected, they are trying to get votes and talking about how your policys may not be immediately noticeable or might need to change over time to work better doesnt get people "hyped", but overall i think this was a good debate they were respectful and avoided personal attacks, even though I believe not many people are going to be swayed to either side, the people who already support their party will feel more confident in their choice but will sway some people who maybe just didn't fully know the policy's and how it will help or hurt them, I think this debate was very helpful for that and will help people make a more informed decision about who they vote for, I think having debates like this much more often can help Americans find a common ground and allow them to have a more civilized dialog, and I think what we really need right now is for people to be able to talk to each other and empathize with how other people feel and why they might feel that way while respectfully trying to tell them why they think their candidate is better for America, I honestly think Vance would be a much better option for the Republicans especially without needing to support Trump or his policy's and many (but not all) controversial trump policy's would be completely dropped and compromise between both party's would be much easier, although I may not support the policy's I wouldn't be scared to exist, my view is that trump gave a voice to fringe groups (which isn't a bad thing) but the many of the groups he decided to give a voice are those of hate and helped normalize this hate (and hateful people can be very passionate which in turn can help embolden others people passion either for or against which causes divide) being passionate isn't a bad thing but it is when it comes from hate and that goes on both sides and it just keeps a cycle of division between people who aren't willing to listen to each other and division grows and grows making it even harder, but as of right now the situation in America is trump is a legitimate threat to democracy and should not have any power the sooner America realizes this the better and the sooner they can return to a civilized discussion, I'm not American so I have no horse in this race but I still care about the people affected and their happiness because people deserve to feel ok and safe in their country and I can try to put myself in their shoes and empathize with their struggles As of right now I would never support the republican PARTY due to their policy's (even non trump ones) even if there may be 1 or 2 that I think could be good for America the overall benifit would be highly outweighed by what I consider unacceptable drawbacks as it just doesn't match my beliefs And the Democrat PARTY also has policy's I disagree with but none I can think of (or know of) that will actively make me feel in danger and have many that would make me feel more secure (physically, economically, mentally, etc) If trump wins I will not be visiting America for his time in office (and any time that alot of his policy's are active) and canceling my trip as I would feel genuinely unsafe in a country where trump and some of his supporters (in my original I just said "trump supporters" not some I wasn't corrected in this but realized I wrote it and realized I was being hypocritical myself sorry for generalizing and sorry if i may have been rude) are the voice of the country where they would feel alot more safe or emboldened and in the right to assault me (verbally or physically) just for existing around them, I'm a normal person who goes to work, likely watches some of the same shows as you, loves their mom as most people do, has interests and hobbies maybe the same as yours, I want to talk about why we disagree and maybe some of the problems and mistrust we have with each other are just due to misunderstanding each other and having a one on one conversation without pressure from a whole group, and it's OK to be wrong and it's OK to admit it, because the sooner someone admits they're wrong the less it hurts them and others, and if someone does admit they're wrong don't make fun of them for it appreciate them for changing because it is so much harder to change than it is to stay with what is comfortable/familiar, but if we are not willing to change we will never be able to progress and will just stay fighting each other, if we can unite we can get so much done, even if we don't agree on everything the things we do agree on can be great for all of us and the more we work together the more we will work together in the future and be willing to help eachother even more If anyone wants to talk about what we may disagree about I promise to hear you out and actually consider your point and view while giving my reasons why I may agree or disagree respectfully, name calling will not get us anywhere and will just cause us to be less willing to talk in a civilized manner, and though some people might not be there yet (on all sides not just one) the more we show a willingness to actually have a civilized talk the more convinced they may be to talk to you, keep showing you are trying to talk to them And also please try not to generalize people into their party's, I try not too but may have done so and if i did I am sorry and will genuinely try to change my thinking and please kindly point out what I said and I will change it not out of pride but out of a genuine want to change my thinking I will even keep the original words with an ammendment next to it explaining I was wrong so people can still see that I was wrong and that I did say what I said, I am willing to show I was wrong and I hope you are willing to see that I am trying to genuinely be better and change, and remember people are hypocritical all the time but being willing to see that fault and kindly telling someone or being open to realizing that you may have been hypocritical is a good start to being a better person, and if someone can't accept that don't attack them but keep trying to show them you are trying to be better
atrioc, no shade but gun buybacks are proven to have zero effect in America. The Vast majority of gun owners aren’t willing to give up their hobby/personal protection for a gift card, and many that are bought back are non-functional or at least in disrepair. It’s more so an optical win for the state.
@xftjlas8296 what am i supposed to do with that virtue signal? you live in reality, you live in a world where you either vote for Kamala or get a Trump presidency. Anybody and everybody voting for Kamala is strictly speaking a good thing.
That's such a gross thing to say. Especially saying it's an outright "good thing" She's weak. She's a liar. She's stupid. She's literally everything Trump is, but packaged in a way you like. Look at her glitch when the teleprompter breaks @@TheMrTangamandapio
It's more annoying to me seeing Atrioc cosplay like he is apart of the same class as the majority of people watching his videos. The former director of marketing at Nvidia and 3500 subs on twitch. He is in a different tax bracket than you. His interests in regards to a lot of different policies are inherently going to be different
The rules were that the moderators couldn’t fact check. The moderators did fact check and their check was FALSE. Vance explained his statement and you would know this if u watched the debate
@@jackquack25 He called Haitians in Ohio illegals and they were not, they were there legally as part of the asylum process. He lied. It's very straight forward.
@@danielcillie1856 There's a good faith and bad faith interpretation and depending who you're voting for is how you'll interpret a lot of what hese candidates say.
@@kylezammit1868 Of course you think she was the problem. You sound like the type to hear a smoke detector and think it's the problem, and not the fire burning downstairs.
@kylezammit1868 Have you heard any other debate where Trump is involved that ACTUALLY talks meaningful policy? It's not Harris, dude. He's always been a blow hard who talks a big game.
Gonna go ahead and say that a debate where the FIRST question(which has been cut out) was asking if these two would endorse a preemptive nuclear strike on Iran, was not at all good. Absolutely nightmarish state of political discourse in America.
Just reacting to the first clip: JD Vance makes a good argument. The "weird science" stuff is crap, but the point about importing from China. Global trade is the enemy of environmentalism. Shipping and flying both have massive carbon footprints, and are virtually impossible to make clean with today's technology. Importing energy is less of an issue, except that we shouldn't be using gas powered cars no matter where the gas comes from.
I always watch these, and during or after, I think to myself, "I should watch the full debate and other reactions too." But I never do 😂 Hey, at least I'm watching SOME of the debates compared to before I was an Atrioc viewer
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VP Debate: Civil, Comfy and Cozy
Presidential Debate: THEY'RE EATING THE DOGS! THEY ARE EATING THE CATS! RAWRRRR
not doja cat and snoop dogg noooo
@@HidesEndwe lost two real ones 😔
I mean it's just Trump, not "the presidential candidates" or something. Trump is fully responsible for how dumb these debates become. "THEY'RE EATING THE DOGS"
Jd vance is a talented debater. Hes just unlikeable when he is doing literally anything other than grifting
@@alpha_9997 Remember when Biden starts supporting gays after 4 decade long career of hating them ?
Walz being bug-eyed whenever Vance spoke was hilarious
He looked scary
Whenever Vance said something out of pocket, he’d give Vance that dafuq look but did a good job restraining himself from speaking out of turn
If I was Vance and looked over and saw him looking at me like that and then vigorously take notes I would just surrender
@@Hbrixxbro he showed up looking big eyed and stupid..
18:45
I’m surprised JD Vance’s arguments didn't connect with Atrioc, a fellow Harry Potter loving millennial
He has to stay face as a content creator.
@@mr.pockets852399% sure the other guy was being ironic. You’re just a knob
@@mr.pockets8523you’re an idiot lol
@@mr.pockets8523Do you think Atrioc is secretly voting Trump?
I’m so brain poisoned I can’t tell if you were being like ironic here at all
We need like 6 more debates so atrioc can put out more main channel videos
If only he’d pause a debate instate of speaking over them 😅
@@LookHearMeOutits a live feed and if he pauses then if something happens people will tell him before he sees it
@@LiamKerslake I was wondering why he wasn’t pausing, thank you!! 🙏
@@LiamKerslakewhy would people watch the live debate on a different platform alongside Atrioc reacting to the live debate
@@JackRabbit1612 because people enjoy the gratification of getting atrioc to read their chat messages and if they have information he doesn't know then they're more likely to get read
I miss the presidentially debates from my youth when they asked the questions that really matter.... like asking Baby Bush about what his favorite xmas song was
I think romney and obama was the last great debate we will ever have lol
The intersection of people who are undecided and people who watch the VP debate is 0
Is it really that irrelevant in the US? I'm in Australia and saw it on multiple TVs at work from people watching it in the background
I mean, I watched it. I am significantly less undecided now, too.
@@Dragonofshamejust curious what side this swayed you towards 🤔
@@iy2147 Harris/Walz. I was somewhat leaning to them because I really don't like Trump, but my family has always voted Republican (myself included) and there are a lot of democratic policies that I don't agree with. But actually listening to people talk policy here helped a lot. Vance's stance on climate change is just stupid, plain and simple. And I agree with Walz on a lot more than I expected.
@@chiefhazza2711 tbh, if australians could vote in american elections, I think we might have less undecided voters here than they do in the states.
LETS GO MY FIRST AND ONLY NEWS SOURCE
I love watching this channel and not diversifying my news input! I know it's what Atrioc would want us to do as his loyal viewers
gotta love the unbiased super educated opinions 😐😐
Don't forget the Onion
@@explainus3207I mean atrioc definitely has some bias towards progressives, but also, the dude makes unbiased and often well educated observations in terms of economics.
Given trump and Vance’s plans for the economy (ESPECIALLY trumps) are not great for the economy, I think it’s fair to want to show some support to Kamala and walz.
Especially considering JD Vance notoriously changes his beliefs to suit the situation, so any more moderate beliefs he shows may be what he believes or may just be to win votes.
@@explainus3207economically he’s absolutely goated fr fr
Sucks that silksong wasn't announced, are we sure it's getting announced this year?
lmao prob not im convinced hollow night gone. im straight dooming call me rdj
Maybe our grandchildren will get the chance at this point
@@impossiblect7798 real
me in 2022
Nov 1st the Harris-Walz ticket promises that if elected they will release silksong. Democrats sweep 90% of states
A somehow better debate then the PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE.
"Somehow"
Like one of the presidential candidates isn't a 900 year old dude with brain worms
i mean we all knew this was gonna be a better debate
at least both candidates are sort of respectful, unlike mister orange
not somehow, it's just that Trump was in the presidential debate, it's not a mystery or something. "THEY'RE EATING THE DOGS"
bro anyything would be better after that god forsaken debate
"The rules were you guys weren't gonna fact check" is crazy
Not really when they have consistently only fact check one party
@@Orcheis_ Well, when only one party lies...
But it wasn’t a lie? SMH
@@Orcheis_did you watch the video? They fact checked Tim Walz claim to be at Tiananmen square
What’s crazier is correcting the “fact” checkers then going on to win a 1v3 debate
NOOOOOO WHERE ARE MY TWO ELDERY PEOPLE FIGHTING
Presidential yaoi nooooooo
I'm surprised no one ever mentions changing zoning laws in the debate for affordable homes.
JD Vance did about federal land. That's very similar to zoning laws
Because there are a lot of homeowners in the voting pool and both of them are smart enough to not to anger that group.
@@evilaistruth right here
Zoning laws are local, federal government has no power over them. If you want more houses built in your city, the mayoral and city council races are more important.
It’s not “sexy” enough to mention.
The big guys be beefing hard, and their buddies just kinda talk to each other during their mutual friend's fight lol.
16:00
BRO EARLIER IN THE DEBATE GUESS WHO WAS BLAMING IMMIGRANTS FOR HIGHER HOUSE PRICES
Right?? Bro really pretended he wasn't just doing EXACTLY THAT
Are you guys dum? he says dont blame the immigrants for their actions, blame kamala for letting it happen in the first place. higher immigration does lead to higher prices. average kamala voters can't keep track of a conversation.
Maybe it was him elaborating on something he spoke about.
He's specifying the difference between blaming migrants themselves and the actions being taken
He wasn't blaming immigrants for higher housing prices. He was blaming the current administrations placement of the current migrants and their lack of (illegal) immigration prevention.
I.e. He's ensuring you recognize he's not blaming the struggling people, but the government in charge of what happens to them. @@bobstevenson3130
Listen I get that atrioc is biased but why I see a commenter saying if you wanted an "unbiased" review to look at asmongold's?! I mean cmon brother that's just switching the bias😂
yeah that's actually insane, asmongold is clearly conservative leaning if you've seen any of his takes about, well, anything related to politics
If people actually care about people being unbiased, why not just watch the debate yourself without a commentator lol. By "unbiased" people usually just mean "has my bias"
@@gabrielhicks8043I mean watching commentators from both sides of the isle with biases is a good idea, although asmon is pretty far right and atrioc is probably not the left leaning equivalent (he has said he supported Romney in 2012), cus they provide insight and commentary in favour of both sides
@@gwop827 calling asmon far right is insane
@@testacals1 Man said "property has more rights than people" when talking about protestors. But sure by america standards he isnt that far right
“The rules are that you guys weren’t gonna fact check” a line I will never forget.
Strange statement but in his defense, when big A was laughing so much you couldn't hear Vance, he goes on and explains the point he was trying to make and why the "fact check" was kind of misleading. A lot of times politicians straight up lie, but in some cases the problem is way to nuanced to be shut down with a one-line "fact check".
@@Hannwes ...but in this case Vance was just straight up lying so
To be fair, they didn't fact check Walz live, but if you actually look at their fact check on their website, he lied and misleaded people just as much as Vance did. I'm all for fact checking candidates, but there's a clear bias here.
@@Hannwes He was very much lying and Cbs said they would fact check egregious lies before the debate and he knew that going in
@@Hannwes But if you look it up instead of taking Vance's word for it, you will see he was lying again to cover his previous lie
I haven’t watched this video yet but when watching the thing live I was baffled at how openly JD was like “i won’t answer or talk of the past as I’m focused on the future, anyway, in the past you…”
If these two where our running presidents I would feel much better about America.
Being well spoken is a very low standard for policy makers.
@@innocentwhitegirl523and yet, it’s a standard they consistently fall short of. We’ve gotta work with what we’ve got I guess.
@@innocentwhitegirl523 There was a guy named Adolf who was a great speaker in Germany, though he didn't turn out to be a good guy.
@@innocentwhitegirl523bro have you not seen how low the bar was already, i think it might raise the bar 😂
Vance is a dirtbag
Yes Atrioc, my pole moved substantially during this debate.
ayo 🤨
Pause
so glad the Glizzmeister could stop these two from killing each other
My favourite part was when the glizzatron directly intervened, jumping out of his chair to suddenly be on screen in the debate to catch Walz’ fist just before it collided with JD
Breathtaking reflexes and speed from the the glizzy glozzy glizzomatic
Europoor here... the doors of our school were only locked after classes were over... no metal detectors... no police... no security... never had to learn how to hide from someone trying to shoot me or anything.... ohhh also i'm in Switzerland we have like the 3rd most guns per capita in the world
Yeh guns aren't the problem lol, it's culture
No metal detectors no freedom 🦅🦅🦅🦅
@@lolsalad52 i mean sure guns are PART of the problem... less guns makes it easier to not shoot someone... but culture and fetishisation of guns is a way bigger problem
I used to live in Switzerland as well and loved it! But the countries are so different from each other and cant be treated as the same. Like military service is required from all men where you are issued a gun. A lot of men keep their service weapons but not for a personal use. The culture around firearms in the two countries is kind of flip flopped and I don't think it will be able to change sadly. Not arguing or anything because all you said was factual information but you didn't seem to propose any solution either so.
@@lolsalad52It’s kinda both. For it to be, Yknow, safe for a country to have gun ownership, you need to have a strong mental health system and a good economic state of the country, otherwise people are more likely to use them for crime. But ideally you also want some regulations, whether that is who can buy guns, or what guns you can buy.
But it is interesting how much more civilized and informative this debate is
14:56 He got the "don't come to school tomorrow" text
JD: says something Atrioc - "Wrong". Tim: I actually agree. Atrioc- "True"
I love when chat spams “????????” It’s very insightful
13:30 Yeah jd vance is right the window are the real problem and need stronger doors in the schools. 😂
"the rules were you weren't gonna fact check" is a banger line
It's because it's always propaganda, The Mainstream media has long been owned by Democrats, ie. The 3 year conspiracy theory of trump being a Russian agent, including even Tulsi Gabbard a known veteran. They make up conspiracy theories dumber and less credible than Alex Jones himself.
All of COVID censorship and Hunter Biden laptop censorship was "fact checking"
Why cant these debates just go as long as they need to? why do we need these time limits for talking?
Limited tv timeslot
So that we can move onto the next question, they don’t have unlimited time
I would seriously prefer if these were on some kind of streaming service where they had a much more relaxed time limit, its so dumb seeing them both only get half a counter argument in before being made to continue
@@Zakibey123extend the time slot then. Y’know what happens right after the debate ends, people on cbs react to the debate. It’s not like what happens right after is more critical than the debate itself. You don’t cut off a sports game because there’s a limited time slot it goes how long it goes, do the same thing for debates.
It was genuinely refreshing to see political candidates debating like adults.
That’s what happens when Trump isn’t involved.
@@ogolthorpyeah. Lefties can’t act right when Trump is around. TDS is terminal
I live 90 minutes away of the US border growing up i have never heard of local school shooting, i never had any kind of drills related to anything else but fires and the concept of a bulletproof backpack would have never cross my mind. That shit is fucked to grow up in
Bro same i never heard a warning about shooters but always got the presentations and school only had security guards because of fights that occasionally happens
I live in the US, 5 mins from the Tijuana Border. I cannot think of any actual school shooting happening around here in my twenty years of living here (Only a scare at SWC AFAIK). I'm more worried about getting robbed on the bus, than shot in a school.
this VP is the oldest politician i have seen where i was impressed with the clear tone and very understandable to even have emotions get him to read audio books he will do great with it
He's actually not that old compared to the standards we're used to at this point. He's 60, that's only 1 year older than Harris. Vance is 40 and Trump is 78 for reference.
@@alexwyffels9788yeah he just looks pretty old, white hair and a practically nonexistent hairline will do that to ya 😆
I agree but he fumbled the bag at that "friends with school shooters" part
It's pretty insufferable when atrioc pays close attention during Walz talking and then laughs and reads chat while Vance is talking so that he can't hear what's being said.
Not really Walz has nothing worth listening too that's the probelm.
Both of these guys seem more capable than the actual two running for office
agreed
Just a quick point on Atrioc's statement about Chinese energy, we don't get it directly. However, when you import anything from China, you are indirectly importing energy, because Chinese energy was needed to produce those goods. So by outsourcing production to China, you are decreasing American energy demand and increasing Chinese energy demand. Vance said it pretty poorly, but that is the anti-China argument that Vance was attempting to say.
This makes sense, thank you.
Vance also said that economists lied when they said we would get cheaper goods by importing from China. We do get cheaper goods, but at the cost of quality and nondomestic energy use. If he really meant to say that imported goods equates to imported power, then he was double dipping and his argument was in bad faith.
I’m just gonna dump some EIA data and back of napkin calculations (some of the numbers were in barrels per day)
about 1.7 trillion (10^12) BTU’s we produce daily goes to china. On a yearly basis, 635 trillion (10^12) BTU’s.
We internally produce 102.82 quadrillion (10^15) BTU’s a year.
We consume 93.59 quadrillion (10^15) BTU’s a year.
We export 29.5 quadrillion (10^15) BTU’s yearly.
We import 21.7 quadrillion (10^15) BTU’s yearly.
Assuming these barrels are the only energy we export, china makes up about 2% of our crude oil exports.
There is no way this is what he meant with that. Your comment sounds exactly like those star wars theory channels that fix plot holes for the actual writers by stringing together a somewhat reasonable explanation for the errors in the source material
@@TilDrill
No it isn't. You've clearly never spent a single minute researching this issue.
lol the cartels get the guns from us not the other way around that’s crazy…. Almost as crazy as make the locks safer
Yep, everyone forgets about Barack Obama’s Operation Fast and Furious
It makes sense that Tim Walz wants to encourage single-family home purchasing and construction, considering he is from Minnesota. But it would make more sense for the platform to encourage multi-family housing.
condo apartments work out well
Chicago is doing a new legislative experiment right now, homes aboce 2 million being sold pay 3% tax that gets directly shuffled to make homes more affordable, not folded into state budget. and 1.5% for homes at 1 million +
people dont like to hear that, anything besides massive spaced out homes are communism
There is plenty of multi-family housing, it's just that the retired and elderly folks don't want to give it up, and in turn the housing market skyrockets in price.
@@biteofdog10.5% of homes are empty in America, mainly owned by companies from what I know. Mayyybe that's a problem with people not being able to find a place
@@masonengel1928 I imagine it's kind of both
Did Vance really try and pull "oh those guns used in shootings are illegal mexican guns" as if those are somehow any different
If I'm not wrong, don't they mostly come from within the US?
@@gwop827 90% come from the US lmfao.
Well… did you expect walz to say anything about school shootings? Besides being friends with school shooters.
@@aaronb4936 he fucked up his words up. Vance said "rules were u werent gonna fact check". Both sides made a mistake in speech, Vance had a lack of actual points
He should’ve mentioned Fast and Furious, not the Family one either.
Ngl, this election the VPs are much, much better orators than the presidential candidates.
Truth be told it's hard to gauge how good Kamala is, considering her opponent was Trump. Dude's entire M.O. is derailing on the debate floor, and dragging people down.
@@JustAJauneArcI don’t think think he has succeeded Doing that to her as much as his previous opponents like Biden or in 2016. She keeps speaking generally about specific issues, which is no way to beat another politician that does the same thing. Whether or not they both do that to pander to the widest fan base or they really just don’t get the issues? That’s up for debate
why cant these two be the presidential candidates
This is actually so true. It feels like the president has become a symbolic figurehead and vice presidents are so much more logical.
Trump is the republican party and kamala gets bidens donations
@@gingeral253presidents speak to emotions and vice presidents are a play to swing the undecided voters
I love how jd doesn't know what the position he is running for actually does.
“Because of Kamela Harris’s Policies” NAME THE POLICIES
Lack of border enforcement/funding, outsourcing national production to foreign countries leading to instability in the national economy, lack of federal response to hurricane victims; ($750 per household to specific demographics while illegals get upwards of $2000 a month individually), excessive funding to foreign wars without strong executive action to end them, as well as lack of federal aid to veterans and other groups of legal citizens.
oy vey cite your sources. Ok not those sources, ones that I (the reddit hivemind) approve of.
its not that he cant. The average American voter is fueled by hate. They do not think highly of us, so they are not going to have a (example!), calculus conversation with people who failed algebra in tenth grade
@@mad1337nes true. its hard to find kamala harris' bad policies because whenever the public starts to disagree with them, they magically change to the popular opinion.
Guys I wouldn’t watch personality RUclipsrs and streamers for UNBIASED commentary. Why complain about Atrioc’s bias when you’re on his channel?
To be fair to your point, the comments section is a place for your own commentary on the video. It's exactly the right place to complain or voice your opinion on it.
Usually comments section are a echo chambers for example Asmongold & Hasan communities are good example of political echo chambers
@@brizzled5193 comparing asmongold to hasan is crazy. hasan is left wing extremist and asmongold flips between left and right depending on the issue. comments reflect that
@@abc-z7j I do agree with you that asmongold does flip right and left at times, but his fans and community I dislike heavily they are just so toxic and aggressive at times.
Because he's annoying. I came here to watch the debate and have decent commentary but I just hear him laughing
Future generations are going to be in class having a debate and drop the absolute meme of a line "The rules were you guys weren't going to fact check" XD
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I mean the rules are suppose to be upheld...
And secondly, "fact checking" has been a hyperbolic euphamism for a while now. The entire media has been very partisan for a long time, and all the press are only hostile to one party and their "fact checking" is the same.
Even in this debate, the only time the moderators made unprompted statements that were not questions was against the Republicans...
Even though at the very beginning, the moderators established that the deabtors would have to fact check each-other... So why do the mods feel the need to step in and bat for one side?
@@21area21you are on a liberal channel my friend, people will not use the same logic as you.
@@danielcillie1856 thanks for bringing me some sanity out here. It is pretty grueling out here but I figured I'd fight the good fight. 😅
@@21area21 I used to follow the channel (or rather main channel) pretty religiously, but I grew up and logic started kicking in. I now only pop in once in a while to get an idea of what people with different views from mine think. It's rough because people can't put themselves in the shoes of the other side.
@@21area21because when one side is blatantly lying or making up/misrepresenting things and the other doesn't…only one side is going to get moderated. I mean Trump literally claimed a guy wanted to execute babies which was just a blatant lie.
"We've got a lot to get to." I want to hear what the people who will be running the country have to say!
100%, the moderators seem to really interfere in the debates, on both sides. It’s like they act as if it’s a talk show and they’re the host. You’re a moderator, just moderate!
@sometimessomething4734 Exactly. They think "oh finally I'll have my time in the spotlight. Time to act as asinine as possible. Look at me, a news anchor (probably) bossing the future VP around" What a joke smh
Tbf they have a limited amount of time for tv in general so they need to try to fit everything in within the dedicated time slot
@@motchdagolfer1323 This is the presidential/VP debate. Phuck a time slot
@@Welshman336 too bad that is just not how it works
If anything, I gained respect for both of them. Actually really good debate, the Presidential debate was ass 😂
JD Vance gives evil Wendigoon vibes
You know what, I see it
Wendigoon if he was the most unlikeable guy who ever existed
holy shit lmao
Lmao you’re onto something
JD Vance and Meat Canyon collab when?
Minnesota resident here, it's pretty alright
Grew up in MN, gotta say I am usually pretty proud of my state (except DMV). Tim just kind of reminds of nice dudes my parents would talk to in church in the suburbs.
yeah me too, I enjoy it
Iowa resident here, I'm fucking seething and malding at you guys having a competent governor.
Wish I knew what that felt like *sadge*.
Even if I wasn't predisposed against Vance, harping on energy costs is such a bad attack route. My guy, I just filled up my car for under $3 for the first time in a while. I'm sure it's not the same everywhere in the country, but when you're trying to tell all of America a "great truth" to rally them behind you and the world outside my door and I'm my community is telling me something different, it's not effective. Even if I'm a die hard Republican, hearing him complain about energy cost and then seeing my month bills be pretty low compared to previous years should create dissonance
Republicans have resorted themselves to live in delusion. I don't just say this, I mean delusion in the clinical sense, truth doesn't mean anything anymore. Truth is now whatever the fuck confirms my bias even if all evidence points to the contrary. These people are lost to a cult of personality.
that's a good argument and it gives me as a non american great insight into the issues on the ground
Yeah I was thinking that if it went down it be nice but all and all it's pretty cheap atleast in my town
All the Atrepublicans coming out in the comment section. Every person reacting to a debate is going to be biased. If you dont like it then don't watch.
Of course he's going to be biased. That's why I'm watching, to get his unique perspective.
I didn't actually get that though because he never responded to anything Vance said, he just laughed and misinterpreted things on purpose.
Imagine not watching him and daily wire at the same time
@NoNombreHombre Is hard to give the benefit of the doubt to someone who lie about people eating pets and babies.
@@joseb8933It’s hard to do it when one side literally says no to fact checking
@@hx5525 Vance crying about getting fact checked was pretty funny
"A lot of economists attack donald trump's plans and they have phds but they don't have common sense and wisdom." That is easily one of the stupidest things I've ever heard.
And JD Vance went to yale
Not at all. Economics is as far away from a tangible proof based field as philosophy or queer gender studies.
Obama's administration and this Biden administration made economic policies the economists have recommended but caused bigger issues because it didn't understand a basic concept of supply and demand.
Not to mention, all universities have a huge left wing rot going on because A. if you're a socialist or communist you can't make it in the real world, and B. China has a huge influence because most of university money comes from overseas students.
Don't pretend like you know anything scholarly when you call us to "trust the experts" which is in complete opposition to the scientific method and you're voting for Kamala Harris who wants "price caps on food" which is THE gateway to bread lines in a communist country spiral. An idea she probably got from her COMMUNIST PHD DAD
Yea most stupid thing I've heard. If you needed urgent surgery for a heart transplant would you rather have a guy with a PhD or some dude off the street that says he has "common sense" and "wisdom." I'd obviously choose the guy with years of experience and certification on the topic.
@@jlolo33321there's so many different economic styles taught at many different colleges, depends on where you got your degree, it's not an exact science as it's based on human behaviour, not biology
Same economist that are using modern monetary policy based on debt that is getting people nowhere.
They should’ve talked about how many 3 pointers they could make in a 10 minute competition maybe then it would’ve been good
28:09
🦎: "Great show today!"
🦎: "Can't have the hufolk losing _all_ trust, after all."
🦎: "So are you actually going to fulfill those promises if you win?"
🦎: "Lmao no"
🦎: "Saame"
🦎: *laughs in lizard*
🦎: *laughs in lizard*
"We need change"
"That's why you need to elect the same guy we already had"
Outstanding argument, JD
…a change from the current administration. Are you really that brain dead?
We need change so vote for the guy who didnt get shit done in his 4 years of office
Well a change from Biden-Kamala is always well received
"Instead vote for the gal we already had"
Outstanding argument, YBA
@@testacals1 You know that she is the vide president?
i love atriocs little chuckle everytime jd vance starts talking
4:10 “The rules were that you guys weren’t going to fact check and since you’re fact checking I think it’s important to say what’s actually going on” is CRAZY
Crazy that he had to fight a 1v3.
The moderators were also stating some non-sequitur... To try and somehow make Vance look bad?
@@21area21 and he lost. Because he can't stop lying.
@@chubbyanemone696 you're welcome to tell yourself whatever you wish.
@@21area21at best it was a tie at best
@chubbyanemone696 even if that were the case the moderators said they won't fact check and that it's up to the debators. Did you see the moderators finish off a line from waltz that his previous statements weren't true. It's not like only one side lies.
Thankyou atrioc for testing to this really cool wouldn't have watched otherwise
Loved each second of this upload! You did amazing!
I watched the full debate live and I felt that the point where Vance corrected the fact checkers and had his mic shut down was powerful. He seemed to really know his stuff and owned these mods who came in looking to take Walz's side. I was disappointed you didn't include any of that in the video. Once I saw that I decided to stop watching the video. I'm interested in seeing real reaction from someone considering both sides, even if they lean one way over the other, but if you're just going to show the portions you think one side look bad and cut the rest out it makes it rather uninteresting. I hate the media, Fox is very far right wing, CNN and others and very far left wing, almost impossible to get a real look at what's happening without watching all the live interviews, speeches, and debates before seeing any commentary, forming opinions based on what you observe, then subject yourself to the commentary afterwards.
I felt the same way. It sounded like he was forcing out laughs sometimes just to drown out what vance had to say. Watching the debate unfiltered was way better than this.
I liked the debate, both sides had a good points, the most I disagreed at any point was morally but that’s entirely personal and everyone has different morales. I believe that if every debate was like this, America would be a better country.
Can we scrap both presidential candidates and let the vp’s run?
It's crazy that the VP debate exists because we can't get the presidential candidates in one room.
"we are the cleanest country in the world"
Move almost all energy-intensive operations elsewhere (china) and then say how green your manufacturing is because you dont have to rely on coal as much anymore. Isnt it fun how stupidly easy "clean energy" is? And then you can start burning *literal wood* because some bloke in 2000`s said that it was a clean energy source.
That's because starting in the 1970s we shifted our factories overseas and made other countries polluted instead.
@@alexturnbackthearmy1907 Even not considering that the US isn't anywhere near the cleanest in the world, you guys are just so used to hear politicians say you're the best at everything that you assume it's at least somewhat based on truth, but here it really isn't. "Clean energy" (for what it's worth) in the US is about 40% of total energy production, there are countries over 95%.
If you’re gonna try and quote stuff maybe get the quote right lmao
@@alexturnbackthearmy1907 its not even clean what they do inside the US, what
Atrioc is the most random RUclipsr. I understand the election has an effect on the economy, and that’s like a big part of his brand. But I never expected him to be the best source of news on RUclips 🤣
I’m a big fan of this kinda content
I honestly wish they could have debated deeper
Ending on "... We need a New Direction" had me bursting out laughing. I cannot unhear the homophone of that phrase.
Regardless I cant believe that Walz just straight up lied about being at tiennenman square though.
Yeah it's a stark reminder that he's a politician lol
@@emberembr2944 yeah they usually at least tell believable lies
@@ChipperMcManus Walz brings up his ruralness so much I wouldn't be surprised if that starts getting called into question at some point
blessed be thou when atrioc uploads
This was a great and respectful debate, both sides made it clear they don't agree with each other, though it was obviously "politicy" in the sense they only talk about the positives (or what they believe as positives) of their policies and avoid the possible "growing pains" of the policy's but that's to be expected, they are trying to get votes and talking about how your policys may not be immediately noticeable or might need to change over time to work better doesnt get people "hyped", but overall i think this was a good debate they were respectful and avoided personal attacks, even though I believe not many people are going to be swayed to either side, the people who already support their party will feel more confident in their choice but will sway some people who maybe just didn't fully know the policy's and how it will help or hurt them, I think this debate was very helpful for that and will help people make a more informed decision about who they vote for, I think having debates like this much more often can help Americans find a common ground and allow them to have a more civilized dialog, and I think what we really need right now is for people to be able to talk to each other and empathize with how other people feel and why they might feel that way while respectfully trying to tell them why they think their candidate is better for America, I honestly think Vance would be a much better option for the Republicans especially without needing to support Trump or his policy's and many (but not all) controversial trump policy's would be completely dropped and compromise between both party's would be much easier, although I may not support the policy's I wouldn't be scared to exist, my view is that trump gave a voice to fringe groups (which isn't a bad thing) but the many of the groups he decided to give a voice are those of hate and helped normalize this hate (and hateful people can be very passionate which in turn can help embolden others people passion either for or against which causes divide) being passionate isn't a bad thing but it is when it comes from hate and that goes on both sides and it just keeps a cycle of division between people who aren't willing to listen to each other and division grows and grows making it even harder, but as of right now the situation in America is trump is a legitimate threat to democracy and should not have any power the sooner America realizes this the better and the sooner they can return to a civilized discussion, I'm not American so I have no horse in this race but I still care about the people affected and their happiness because people deserve to feel ok and safe in their country and I can try to put myself in their shoes and empathize with their struggles
As of right now I would never support the republican PARTY due to their policy's (even non trump ones) even if there may be 1 or 2 that I think could be good for America the overall benifit would be highly outweighed by what I consider unacceptable drawbacks as it just doesn't match my beliefs
And the Democrat PARTY also has policy's I disagree with but none I can think of (or know of) that will actively make me feel in danger and have many that would make me feel more secure (physically, economically, mentally, etc)
If trump wins I will not be visiting America for his time in office (and any time that alot of his policy's are active) and canceling my trip as I would feel genuinely unsafe in a country where trump and some of his supporters (in my original I just said "trump supporters" not some I wasn't corrected in this but realized I wrote it and realized I was being hypocritical myself sorry for generalizing and sorry if i may have been rude) are the voice of the country where they would feel alot more safe or emboldened and in the right to assault me (verbally or physically) just for existing around them, I'm a normal person who goes to work, likely watches some of the same shows as you, loves their mom as most people do, has interests and hobbies maybe the same as yours, I want to talk about why we disagree and maybe some of the problems and mistrust we have with each other are just due to misunderstanding each other and having a one on one conversation without pressure from a whole group, and it's OK to be wrong and it's OK to admit it, because the sooner someone admits they're wrong the less it hurts them and others, and if someone does admit they're wrong don't make fun of them for it appreciate them for changing because it is so much harder to change than it is to stay with what is comfortable/familiar, but if we are not willing to change we will never be able to progress and will just stay fighting each other, if we can unite we can get so much done, even if we don't agree on everything the things we do agree on can be great for all of us and the more we work together the more we will work together in the future and be willing to help eachother even more
If anyone wants to talk about what we may disagree about I promise to hear you out and actually consider your point and view while giving my reasons why I may agree or disagree respectfully, name calling will not get us anywhere and will just cause us to be less willing to talk in a civilized manner, and though some people might not be there yet (on all sides not just one) the more we show a willingness to actually have a civilized talk the more convinced they may be to talk to you, keep showing you are trying to talk to them
And also please try not to generalize people into their party's, I try not too but may have done so and if i did I am sorry and will genuinely try to change my thinking and please kindly point out what I said and I will change it not out of pride but out of a genuine want to change my thinking I will even keep the original words with an ammendment next to it explaining I was wrong so people can still see that I was wrong and that I did say what I said, I am willing to show I was wrong and I hope you are willing to see that I am trying to genuinely be better and change, and remember people are hypocritical all the time but being willing to see that fault and kindly telling someone or being open to realizing that you may have been hypocritical is a good start to being a better person, and if someone can't accept that don't attack them but keep trying to show them you are trying to be better
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Hey Atrioc, just wanna say thanks for answering my questions on the stream. Loved the video!!
atrioc, no shade but gun buybacks are proven to have zero effect in America. The Vast majority of gun owners aren’t willing to give up their hobby/personal protection for a gift card, and many that are bought back are non-functional or at least in disrepair. It’s more so an optical win for the state.
Walz is fantastic! He’s just a regular American guy, normal, but he understands good policy and wants to make it happen!
Man I cannot imagine who the demo audience is for whom getting an endorsement from Dick Cheney is a win
Maybe the boomer conservatives that didn't vote for Trump because he was too extreme, so like 3 or 4 people
you don't see how staunchly republican figures choosing their opponent party's candidate a serious indictment of their party's candidate?
@xftjlas8296 what am i supposed to do with that virtue signal? you live in reality, you live in a world where you either vote for Kamala or get a Trump presidency.
Anybody and everybody voting for Kamala is strictly speaking a good thing.
That's such a gross thing to say. Especially saying it's an outright "good thing"
She's weak.
She's a liar.
She's stupid.
She's literally everything Trump is, but packaged in a way you like. Look at her glitch when the teleprompter breaks @@TheMrTangamandapio
Waltz cooked Vance throughout but Vance killed the closing statements
Huh lmao
Waltz, pass me that blunt!
Oh yes. We have to make the doors lock BETTER?! That’ll stop the gun violence for sure.
Like a minute in and atrioc is already going off about stuff he has no idea about soooooo confidently. It's so frustrating lmao
haven't watched yet but i'm hoping tim walz announces silksong
Also Vance always looks like he’s wearing eyeliner
Need. More. Guyliner. Lookin like a 2007 Pete Wentz.
He's got a dark and mysterious side dude used to be an emo
Atrioc every time Walz opens his mouth: 🤔🤔🤔…. Good answer
this election would be way better if it was these two running for president
can we get the googly eye guy to run for president and have kamala be VP? that dude seems to actually care
holy cow, these guys make the presidential candidates sound senile at best, can we get Tim president and Lina Khan vice,that would be perfect
yo this was fire
3:23 atrioc being speechless at what Tim Walz is saying made my day.
Debate the debate
The amount of salty Republicans finding out their favorite streamer is politically biased in the other direction is incredibly funny.
I know he has so many videos and vods showing his side and yet this is the video that people get mad at.
Well it’s just in this video it’s hella obvious, unlike in some previous one he’s a bit more balanced.
As if you wouldn't cry the moment you see a conservative person
It's more annoying to me seeing Atrioc cosplay like he is apart of the same class as the majority of people watching his videos. The former director of marketing at Nvidia and 3500 subs on twitch. He is in a different tax bracket than you. His interests in regards to a lot of different policies are inherently going to be different
thank god its out, big A sounds like a printer in the VOD when hes thinking or looking for chat messages
Am I the only one who thinks the VPs are more competent than the actual nominees
Yep, definitely it's only you on the whole word, crazy right?
Why do I like each of them more as a presidents then the two in the actual presidental election...
Glizzy Vance vs Glizzy Walz
Glizz Y Vance vs Tim Glizz
You are the unfunniest man I have ever met.
i dead ass was like is it not how you spell polls
The couch clapper saying he wasnt supposed to fact check them was so fucking funny
The rules were that the moderators couldn’t fact check. The moderators did fact check and their check was FALSE. Vance explained his statement and you would know this if u watched the debate
I thought it was funny when Kamala had to ask for a shorter stand, so she didn’t seem small compared to trump 😂
@@jackquack25 He called Haitians in Ohio illegals and they were not, they were there legally as part of the asylum process. He lied. It's very straight forward.
Couch clapper!?
"I thought you weren't going to fact check" is the most telling thing I've ever seen in my entire life.
Ellaborate
@@danielcillie1856 There's a good faith and bad faith interpretation and depending who you're voting for is how you'll interpret a lot of what hese candidates say.
This is what a debate looks like without Trump
kamala was the bigger problem in the presidential debate.. lol
@kylezammit1868 let me guess, you were like this
"👉😁👈" the entire presidential debate if you didn't hear Trumps deranged ramblings
@@kylezammit1868 Of course you think she was the problem. You sound like the type to hear a smoke detector and think it's the problem, and not the fire burning downstairs.
@kylezammit1868 Have you heard any other debate where Trump is involved that ACTUALLY talks meaningful policy?
It's not Harris, dude. He's always been a blow hard who talks a big game.
Pole shifter bar at the end is absolutely insane. Definitely came from a dark and cerebral perspective. arm💪
Gonna go ahead and say that a debate where the FIRST question(which has been cut out) was asking if these two would endorse a preemptive nuclear strike on Iran, was not at all good.
Absolutely nightmarish state of political discourse in America.
israel glaze-off is a mandatory part of all political debates, they don't make the rules
Crazy that like, most debates were like this before Trump lmao
Just reacting to the first clip: JD Vance makes a good argument. The "weird science" stuff is crap, but the point about importing from China. Global trade is the enemy of environmentalism. Shipping and flying both have massive carbon footprints, and are virtually impossible to make clean with today's technology. Importing energy is less of an issue, except that we shouldn't be using gas powered cars no matter where the gas comes from.
btw I'm Harris 2024 if it isn't clear
We should stop importing energy from the world and start importing Chinese EVs cus they r so fucking cheap
Well I hope you are ready to completely change your lifestyle then, because your current one is not possible without global trade.
I always watch these, and during or after, I think to myself, "I should watch the full debate and other reactions too."
But I never do 😂
Hey, at least I'm watching SOME of the debates compared to before I was an Atrioc viewer
Debate 2 came before gta6