Liberals Vs Everyone Else
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- Destiny discusses observations such as the constellation, truth and skepticism ft. Kraut
Date: 17 May, 2024
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Everyone Else vs Neo Con Destiny. Admit it, you are basically a neo con. Eventually you will find that you are agreeing with Lindsey Graham on foreign policty. lulz.
Destiny your wrong about Trump, yes he rich, but he got that way by working with a lot of ordinary people his connection with builders and electrical engineers ect ect has given him a unique insight into everyday people. He often talks about it if you ever cared to listen.
He has ifent given money to people to pay off their houses, he has often just handed over cash to regular folk. He remembers everyone and talks to anyone, he is not a snob, he hates the elites and never socialises with them because he knows they are trying to screw the little guy. He just wants people working and doing well. You're very cynical about him. Open your eyes just a bit and you will see what we all see a man who has a position in life that can change things for so many. He actually wants to use his position of power for good. That's why we love him.
Also nobody else has the power to craft deals like him. His peace deal with the middle east is INCREDIBLE and deserves a Noble Peace Prize. Look into the Abraham Accords peace deal to understand.
Then look around a ask who else could do that?
Nobody only Trump Yeah the most unlikely person actually is the one.
liberals: “wow, you ever notice how the far left and the far right are the same”
far left: “wow, you ever notice how liberals and the far right are the same”
far right: “wow, you ever notice how liberals and the far left are the same”
Different but same same
Just say Spiderman pointing meme 😅
Schrödinger's Liberal - too extreme for either side yet vital to both extremes to have any relevance in any discourse.
And funnily enough, none of these things are true. Everything isn’t everything, how crazy.
Alllllll wankers
Bro got that liberal Rizz.
The unabashed confidence of communists is honestly inspiring 💀
Straight in the face of failure after failure too
Real communism hasnt been tried yet, sweetie
repent to God
My reaction to that information
It's an act they're the most insecure self hating people on earth
9:33 “When someone hears that you have a believe that is a part of another constellation that they’re aware of they will instantly assume that you have a plethora of other beliefs Immediately since they’re projecting they’re own adherence to a constellation onto you.” As someone who isn’t a member of any political party and as someone who holds a wide variety of beliefs which can fall on either side of the political isle, this is the most frustrating part of political discourse for me.
It’s impossible for some to realize that playing for one team your entire life is fucking stupid. You grow and change, your priorities do as well, but evidently for some folks once you vote for one party you’re tied to them forever lol
@@Senpatriarch sure but what are options in two party system realistically because debating against your team only helps the other side you like worse win so doesn’t seem very helpful to hurt your team. And like now it seems like the stakes are pretty high in terms of getting your team to win. Like as much a don’t like Biden what’s the point of constantly saying how he is wrong when I think Trump will be 1000 times worse. As much as like your point doesn’t make sense for people who lives are actually impacted by the election to hurt the chances of person they think will do most good for them.
@@rickyrivera3623 Being non-tribalistic is one of the pre requisites for being able to convince others to come to your side
I agree, skepticism should be uncomfortable and hard work
it should be asking yourself questions that you don't have enough information for, to answer
and to show yourself the need to think about or look up more stuff
As someone who watches Destiny for following his train of thought and how he thinks, this is perhaps the best Density video I've seen so far. Keep up the good work Mr. Morelli
coudlnt agree more
One man, One Liberal, on a mission.. fighting the far right and the far left, you could say it was...
DESTINY!
Playing now in a theater near you
I still watch Steven every day and I’m a part of the far-Left.
I can’t stop him for being mad at Wokescolds or people who follow people he doesn’t like, I can’t even be mad at him for it. I just wish that we as Leftists could get smarter and smarter. I’m Antifa, but I wish we got smarter. There’s a few introspective folk in each Black Bloc crowd, but not enough. I’m not wording my thoughts very well, but I just wish we were pragmatic. And I will fully always believe in the motives of Antifa. I just wish the greater movement had.. um, like more info on situations.
Less throwing rocks through glass, more standing or walking silently in crowds holding AR-15s, safeguarding Planned Parenthood buildings when under attack, etc. if you know what I mean.
Cute comment. 😊
@@ThySheepie Listen, maybe it's because I started getting into politics when I was 13 (late 2009) so I was quite young and didn't notice as much, but I feel like the left-wing (I am a liberal left-winger, by the way) was, overall, a lot cooler and smarter back in 2010 and before. It seems like around the time that the SJW movement started taking off from the early 2010s onward, things got a lot more fragmented and split off in the left-wing; a lot more of them became these crazy types who were allergic to facts and who were really focused on language policing above all else, abandoning the general pro-free speech sentiment of the left up until that point. What I'm wondering is: maybe there was always this split in the left, even in the 2000s and so on, but it was just a lot quieter then because being PC was a lot less of a prevailing thought and the focus was much more on real issues between the traditional left and traditional right. Though, I dunno... maybe it is just that a lot of people in my age range grew up in a more digital age where things were relatively a lot more comfortable and thought that being PC was the more "progressive" thing to do because it seemed like the next step in the chain of progress to them. This might be a little bit different from what you're talking about, but what you said got me stirring on this.
It's such a self-aggrandizing thumbnail.
Fucking critical thought is so absent from anyone on the extremities. It’s just blatant ignorance and malicious. Destiny is the only tolerable commentator now because at least he puts somewhat of an effort to be well read on things he talks about. His unhinged drunkstiny tweets though are always fun.
His takes age poorly. His the smartest kid on the short bus.
@@117Enderwhich points in particular? Cuz I mean so far every thing he been saying recently has been true
From the calling out that chick who try to baby trap fresh
To his debate with finklestien where the guy was clearly off
@@117Ender At least he updates his opinions based on new information. His "takes" are conditional.
@TevelDrinkwater you mean he gets wrong, it blows up in his face and then he realizes the new info.
Destiny makes claims. Gets debunked. Destiny learns. I prefer ppl who make claims and get it right more often than getting it wrong.
Why listen to someone who gets burned so often. Half of destiny's content is him getting bridges burnt. He's a lol cow since his wife left him. The only takes of his that age well is when he takes the rights stance. Destiny is more of a drama farmer/lol cow compared to politics or intellectual stuff. He's the smartest kid on the short bus. He's the tard that doesn't need a helmet.
*malice
Who forced destiny to get a new shirt? 🤔
New girlfriend theory
@@carrier2823 Is that also why he suddenly wants a new car that outperforms his old one? Is Mr Bonerelli having a midlife crisis?
@@carrier2823 Dans mom is a nice lady
Myron told him this shirt portrayed him as a high value man
@carrier2823 ya Myron they have a gay relationship I've seen enough leaked info to show this is almost certainly going on
Couple of my thoughts if anyone cares:
1) There might be a bias with the people Destiny interacts with that these conclusions are based on. These are usually people more convinced in their beliefs than the average person (that might have some healthy level of self-doubt so they don't voice them as much). These are usually people that crave attention more. The unfortunate truth is that the majority of people (that isn't always 100% sure of their beliefs) often thinks that people that talk with more conviction have a reason to do so.
2) In addition to social incentives, personal psychology plays a huge part in dictating beliefs. Now, more than ever, people can just go online and find the social group that "suits them". There's a reason some people gravitate towards red-pill stuff as there their uncomfortable feelings about what masculinity means don't get activated. For attention craving people this might off course come off as social incentives as their personal psychology is designed to seek social validation.
3) People don't believe what makes them feel good, people believe what aligns with how they feel. The difference, for example, is if someone has low self worth, they're more likely to believe someone telling them they're bad even when they're not because it aligns with how they feel.
I think the 3rd point is just a semantics difference. You and Destiny are both referring to the same thing. If someone believes they're a POS, someone calling them that will make them feel "good".
Just in time for my morning shift lmao.
The best feeling 🎉
just in time for my morning shit
Just in time for mine
Good morning August.
Your are creating the scaffolding for a book you should write: "You're dumber than you think! Here's why and how you can change."
Look up the book/podcast “you are not so smart”
Try Peter Boghossian's "How to have Impossible Conversations". Or The Collins' "The Pragmatists' Guide to Life".
a few good books that cover these points:
- The scout mindset by Julia Galef
- What's our problem by Tim Urban
- The beginning of infinity by David Duetch (mainly the first few chapters about fallibalism)
Whipping out the Chernobyl series quote did make me Pog irl
Pogs or it didn't happen
Why? It was so boring. oppenheimer levels of boring. Dunkirk
@@Onthebrink5 lol
Ngl, it’s hard when you were at one pole not to pendulum swing into the other, halting your own momentum when it was your own thought process that brought you to the extreme in the first place is a struggle for sure. The Chernobyl quote is real
unrelated to ur comment, but nice profile pic. I think it's opeths best album
@@flotots def a contender for my favorite album of theirs too!
Destiny, i know u ar a strong independent black woman but u cant jus call ur opponents hard r
Uh oh...
How tf do people find this still funny?
@@belinhobeli9569idk, it’s not.
@@belinhobeli9569 bro is NOT happy with my comment
Who cares, just ignore it if you don't think it's funny
Destiny bringing back a new wave of liberalism. Lets go!
I’m glad destiny is back
Lefties Groypers
🤝
Recreating history
with the red-brown
alliance
W meme comment editing also W analogy/parallel of current day politics groups
i appreciate this
Destiny is a warrior for the status quo. The perfect soldier for the institutional power of knowledge and control.
Wut?
Thumbnail and title goes hard
"Consistency"
Will talk shit on NFTs one day, will try to sell them to hi audience the next. Destiny's modus operandi is driven by spite, money, and self-satisfaction. He does not care for the Truth.
We need more center left content creators/streamers like Destiny
Now knowing what cognitive dissonance is, I think I've subconsciously been reinterpreting and reforming my personal worldview with the goal of eliminating the feeling of cognitive dissonance. I've started to settle in on a fundamental assumption about the world, that, in practical terms, everything in life is contextual. Just saying that is a paradox, but going through life seeing things through that baseline assumption has been very good thus far at allowing for a great variety of different seemingly disconnected experiences and facts about life to coexist in my worldview. Love these meta analysis vods on applied beliefs.
“Tactical n bombs” lol!! 😂😂😂😂
Does he publish these anywhere?
who edits this
August editing
@@Anne-pj7ny what’s his info
@@itsuptherepodcast look up augustediting on Twitter
I think you just have your time frames too small. The truth is something like "humans are not truthseeking machines over short time frames" over long enough time frames humans are absolutely truth seeking.
That bit at the end,from Destiny , on Ukraine. Ty Steven, i knew you supported them but it's nice to hear how far would you go. I agree 100%.
This is why you’re the best.
Would anyone recommend the program Destiny is using for structuring thoughts and ideas? I feel like Microsoft Word isn’t cutting it anymore
If you know how to write Markdown, then you'll like it. Obsidian is more of a barebones program that is highly customizable, which is opposite to MS Word. Obsidian has a graph view of all your notes that is supposed to make you see connections between them, but I personally think it's more of a gimmick. The best thing about Obsidian is that it doesn't have any of the cloud/telemetry silicon valley bullshit, and everything runs locally (you can also sync notes if you want). Anything can be done in Obsidian if you have enough time. If you hate slow starts, then you may hate Obsidian. Just give it a try and see how it goes.
I switched from MS Word to Obsidian because I felt like I wasted too much time (dealing with indentations, auto-formatting, new pages, margins, etc.) trying to use it as a note-taking app when it was more of an A4 paper writer. Also, unlike Obsidian, Word can't cross-reference notes or structure notes in folders/projects. I still miss easily moving an image anywhere on the page and wrapping text in MS Word, though.
It’s Obsidian.
I don’t use it but heard it’s good.
10:09
This “transcendental entity” sounds like an archetype (Carl Jung concept).
An idea that a collective unconscious thought links all humans and allows all humans to understand certain concepts, “archetypes” as he’d call them.
Yeah JP rambles about the jungian archetypes… man psychoanalysis still hasn’t got any real empirical evidence does it?
Psychoanalysis has given us some of the most incredible discoveries about the unconscious and the mechanisms that we use to deceive ourselves or avoid our deeper issues. There’s quite a bit of evidence supporting psychoanalysis, but when behaviorism came to the scene, people gravitated toward it because, in my opinion, behaviorism allows you to neglect all uncomfortable aspects about yourself, letting you deluded yourself out of thinking there is a “why” behind your behavior. Psychoanalysis is quite honestly fantastic
@@DavidJones-ot8qu genomic expression studies offer a weird "why" too, im not super well read in the field but people are trying to link genetic expression, at the specific genome level, with actions and even personality types of the big 5. beliefs to some secondary connections, based on big 5 quantitative models, are formed on behavior and group affiliations. But yes all of these socialization models and
Alex jones was right about Bohemian Grove doesn't mean he's right about everything. Psychoanalysis has adapted a lot of its foundational assumptions about cognition to growing research, unlike Mr jones, while also being the foundational schools and theories under which the hypotheses for these experiments were conducted to some degree in the past.
@@justsomedude77 There is almost no real evidence that genetics at all influence our personalities and behaviors. If you would read into this, this link is almost always suggested because parents and their children, or even siblings will share genes and also (sometimes, which kinda already defeats this concept) share behaviors, but this could be explained to a higher degree of satisfaction through the consideration of socialization: a parent will influence their children to conform to their temperament. Again, there's is essentially 0 evidence for genes driving our personalities and behaviors.
You are right that psychoanalysis has adapted to current research, which is why current psychoanalysis is much better than the outdated Freudian analysis. Erich Fromm is pretty excellent, in my opinion. He is, I would argue, the greatest psychologist we have ever experienced (documented)
@@DavidJones-ot8qu that’s not even close to what any monozygotic twin studies have found. MZ twin studies link pretty strongly genetics and personality, which creates a feedback loop activated genes impact personality which determines situations that activate other parts of the genome. But generally the evidence for genetics trends toward the intersection of socialization activating specific genetics, or more frequently found differences in genetic activation between monozygotic twins.
Destiny writing out his beliefs is proof he goes the extra mile that no other political streamer goes. I wouldn't imagine Hasan writing anything 😂
What even is this thumbnail and title?! The actual video is actually more interesting with Destiny going through his social influences theory/manifest. STOP mislabeling these damn videos already!!!
Yes destiny, come to the center, don't side yourself with the progressives, we us, the fence sitting neonazi communists, we are your home. Be our voice, be the strong independent black woman you were born to be
Try harder.
@@Observette i can't get any harder than i am rn bud
I will say, it's why I still watch Ben Shapiro that he's at least able to tell me when either side is screwing up. When the State department said that it seemed plausible COVID came from a lab leak, he didn't say it was 100% confirmed, he said it showed how biased the media could be given how quick they dismiss some theories but not others. When a bunch of self-proclaimed conservatives like Tucker Carlson lied on stage about Ukraine and US interventions, he also called it out.
The video title describes humanity on a planetary scale the last 10 years.
Is there anyway to access destiny's research compilations?
Honestly the thought that bringing your gun over state lines if fine just cuz it’s a 15 minute drive is goofy. Cuz law varry state to state. If it was a 15 minute drive to Canada or Mexico the argument falls apart much quicker
Yea I agree I don’t think my mind will be changed on the what happened there but I would like for more factual discourse as a matter of like principal and like being able to have discussion it is scary how it feels like we can’t really talk about reality without it being super political even though I understand why something bringing up this fact (maybe only bring this facts) and other facts of that nature is kind of suspect tbh
Absolutely love these more philosophical/logical reasoning videos. Hell yea.
Very interesting. Thank you
What program is he using to collate his notes?
Obsidian p sure
@@daniellastnaim1588 Thanks man.
We keep learning the same lessons over and over and over again.
Every time I’m skeptical of reports critical of Israel, it moves me in the direction of thinking the world is more just. I posted about this in the Reddit. That comfort makes me uncomfortable.
Lead us to paradise!
Lisan al Gaib 🙏🙏🙏
This man needs to write a guide to modern debates book.
Is it just me or could this be literally revolutionary ... it feel a little intuitive but the analysis of how people form their believes and how rigid they get and the reason behind it, is meticulous and well-explained.
It's interesting but definitely not new ground or ideas. People have talked about it for decades
This is ground that has been very well tread because it's sort of is the end point for anybody, especially academics etc. when they think about how we as humans take a lot of mental shortcuts. Any humanities/social studies textbook will have their own rephrasing of what Destiny is saying here, and plenty of people have written books summarizing their feelings on the matter as a whole as Destiny is as well. It's something that in some way or the other it ends up being worth dwelt on.
@@bryson8831 I guess the application of how this works is what makes this a good video, how trump supporters also think tate is being unfairly indicted and they dont believe in vaccs etc...
now this video right here, is y i fuck wit destiny, bunach people b watchin 4 the drama but my favorite destiny videos r the ones where he goes super saiyan liberal supreme
It's taken him a while to realize that most political belief is just about people's emotions and wanting to feel good lol
Most cringe thing in all of this is destiny thinking this is some 200iq thought and writing it as he discovered the truth. The fact is that people, everyone destiny describes probably does every mental check he is doing, but their core is so misaligned that both will never agree that theyre both doing the thing. Theres no deeper truth or something new in this, its just destiny trying to make himself more comfortable by acting like he has figured it all out. If youve been here long enough, you would know that he does this after every major drama or fight. He comes out as if he figured (the person or the situation) all out.
This is more obvious by the fact that the “thing” destiny seems to have figured out, always resolves or is related to the past drama.
destiny is literally writing a manifesto for life
Destinayyy: the foremost strong independent black woman
44:45 the term you are looking for is "epistocracy"
Bro it's 4am lmfaoooo
Here it's 12 in the morning timezones exist
August is Australian apparently
Early bird gets the worm
How arrogant you must be to think it’s 4am. All you have to do is cross the ocean and over here it’s AQUA and 9pm.
EST bitches 😎
Who wad the gentleman at the end? What a nice easy going fella
His channel name is Kraut
@@Manachtron thanks!
It seems Destiny is referring to the anti-establishment right, because the America bad left definitely doesn't like Trump or Tate
I would be so sure about that. Russel brand and many of his viewers are a case in point.
@@accesscrimea Sure, I'm talking more about the Hasan crew and the far left that's more prominent on Twitter. Russell is a whole other case study
I feel lazy asking but is there a way I can get this document with the notes you put on 'people and their beliefs'. I think this would be extremely helpful personally in how I can approach/process a lot of these recent topics I find myself more invested in.
Find one person that 100% fits in one of your constellations..... these people don't exist.
I'm not really interesedted in vindicating destiny but your argument kind of doesn't work.
E.g., if you have 2 people, one is 5 feet tall, the other is 7 feet tall, than the average person is 6 feet tall. But just because the average person doesn't necessarily exist doesn't mean that there isn't truth in that concept.
@@ClintStone-t9m Its basically the crux of his theory that if you believe in one part of the constellation you believe it all. There isnt really an average in that scenario.
Yea because you cut it off at 100%. The concept is still usable for understanding what is happening generally in our political discourse today and seems to be logical way to say basically people just vote off vibes and social pressure and don’t always / often actually factually / logically think there way though positions. Its kind of obvious emotions drive a lot of politics and life decisions and that’s not a one sided thing that’s for every person including me
@jessie6600 to be fair most people I see online on both sides (might be different actually talking to people offline) just seem to be repeating the same talking point and generally have the same beliefs so this makes sense to me. Obviously they have to maintain a platform which is part of social pressure. The whole point is about we don’t logically come to our beliefs. This is why we can’t logic people in believing different things because they didn’t logic themselves into and that for both sides
@jessie6600 yeah that’s fair someone else in comment section was saying that talking to online people / grifters are different then actually talking to real people. Even if I disagree with you I can respect someone who actually has reasons for why they belief it (life experience etc). Like if I asked you about why you would probably say something reasonable. I try not lump people into boxes but it’s really hard online especially given they way social media works and how little nuance is in discourse and how heated these issues can be now
I don't see why it would be "socially reinforced" necessarily, when people have all the same beliefs. If you look at beliefs, as if they are theorems derived from a logical system, or an axiomatical system, this idea just falls into place naturally.
With respect to Euclid's 5 axioms governing geometry. I can arbitrarily reject or accept his 5th axiom. This would be analogous to a group believing a set of group defined fundamental beliefs. When I reject the parallel postulate, I live in spherical/hyperbolic geometry. When I accept it, I live in flat Euclidean space. Obviously, we would all have the same beliefs, after accepting / rejecting a primary axiom. That's just how logical systems work. It doesn't necessitate social reinforcement. Changing one singular axiomatic belief, can radically change the system you operate in. And everything about the system can logically change.
Because when you grow up you don’t know things so you have to be socially taught things. And then there social pressure to conform to those teaching or ditch them depending on what friend groups social groups you are in. People don’t literally have same exact beliefs they just have similar beliefs from hanging around people similar to them because the know that those people won’t socially pressure them into having different beliefs. This is why feminists and trumpers don’t hang out because to social pressure it’s so high that they would fight / debate / ignore each other if they had to be in same area repeatedly
Destiny is going to look back on this and cringe. This reads like something a sophomore philosophy student would write.
Well given he dropped out of college isn't that actually a compliment?
Destiny’s notes are quite cringe and way less insightful than he thinks
What’s is premise called that describes all of your examples being used for your premises going in the direction that you personally favor?
When you talked about how becvoming a friend and applying that soft social pressure I felt you are going down a really deep sociological rabbit hole. I do not think that every time we change someone's mind over time it is a pressure. I didn't feel pressured to accept trans people as genuine people. I argued and lost and had the logical gaps in my thinking pointed out. So I sat on them and thought (as much as a 14 year old could.) and came to the conclusion I was wrong. And that applies for anything!
I think it depends on your definition of pressure. The whole point of social pressure is that your around people who challenge your beliefs in a certain way which is what happened. If you weren’t around any one who supported trans people they would be no social awareness or pressure to even debate you on the topic and your views would have probably not changed
@rickyrivera3623 yeah but when you say pressure it implies that they are actively trying to change your beliefs. Simply being around people with differing opinions doesn't make you wanna change your opinions it's only when they actively apply the pressure is what I'm saying. I also don't think we should negatively stigmatize social pressure because not all of it is inherently bad.
@@funnysillycat2355 I didn’t mean to imply that so I’ll stop using the word pressure but I still trying the point remains that being around difference can passively change you. This is because being aware of different ways of doing things / being etc that you wouldn’t have know if you they didn’t exist in your life. This is why people in small towns can often have very similar way of thinking being compared to big cities. It really depends on how sheltered one is but if you like only around one group of people there are importantly reasons to comform otherwise they might ignore you, shun you or you might have lower status. This can be a strong driving force especially if you don’t have many friends or in a very small community or soemthing so it’s context dependent. Just knowing if you don’t agree with someone enough means they could leave you is a strong incentive to have beliefs that line enough so your friends don’t leave you. If you friends change you might think about changing or leaving then too
@rickyrivera3623 maybe that's just a fundamental difference between people. There aren't forces like that in my life but even when I'm around people with different beliefs I don't budge on them just because I'm afraid of them leaving me or something. But I grew up in a city even though I live in a really bigoted neighborhood.
@@funnysillycat2355 that’s fair I grew up in small town and moved around a lot due to like military stuff so I didn’t really have close friends and then went to big college so it was kind of culture shock for sure. I’m just now starting to have some sort of friend group
This one isn't gonna age well. D still treats human politics like its an isolated machine
would you care to elaborate your take?
Level 5 post psychedelic stream goes hard
2 views in 10 seconds.Bro fell off 😭
Touch grass
@@jp32123”first!”-maxxing
10 seconds ago is crazy-core
@47:00 great example of the potential pitfalls here is Matt Dillahunty
This is the guy who goes on podcasts to defend Joe Biden
It's easy to defend Biden. He's actually passed legislation for the working class unlike Trump, who is only obsessed with wOkE !!!
Swap the term happiness for the sense of having control over the immediate and wider environment.
Really recommend David McRaney's How Minds Change! Has a lot of these social pressure ideas as well.
Destiny getting his assblasted on twitter is funny though, it's funny how quickly his views change when he's not getting praised LOL.
Destiny really can’t take people disliking him lol
What view changed of his?
29:12 the question for destiny would be, how do you guard against just being a contrarian, all the examples he’s given is for people who want social validation for agreeing with people, some people (maybe destiny) get their social validation by disagreeing with people
Poor victim. Destiny is always just a victim of life. Everyone is always against him, even his devoted audience. It's so hard to watch someone be the victim to literally everything, and no one cares. 😢
im so sorry he has to deal with this, life must be very very tough for him right now, and it all just happens to him. Never provoked, always the victim.
destiny is gradually turning into bill maher with his smug both-sidesism
Except Steven is generally far better at hedging his opinions when he knows doesn't know the full details of something, and Bill Maher is just a blindly confident douche who runs full speed into walls over and over again making him look like an idiot.
There commonalities that arise from both sides being human and being subject to the same underlying human cognitive biases. The phenotype can look very different even if the underlying cognitive process is similar
He didn't do any both sideism here. He is specifically promoting liberalism over anti liberalism, and is calling out the parts of the political spectrum for their illiberal beliefs and how those beliefs stem from webs of belief that create alternate realities for those people. This is very much taking a side.
@@10kanutt yeah but it's easier to say both sides ism because it stops us from having to engage with anything in a way that makes us think critically. So both sides it is!
Even if he is, what wrong with that?
Can someone explain how we got to this point? im out of the loop guys
Apparently 'geniocracy' is a thing, which supports having high intelligence people basically running the government and electing ppl and voting...
Can we get some actual political commentary for once instead of just shitting on hasan for the 32,507th time?
U have to actually watch the streams live. The editor is a bum
???? Is this a video about Hasan? Didn’t notice.
1st and only comment 1/10 attempt at pretending to be an impartial viewer
What anti-fanfiction are you writing? Your post seems disconnected from reality or like you don't watch his content.
Have you even seen this video? He talks about group dynamics in politics...
Holy fuck is that the Trout Kraut himself?
too much yapping nobody cares about twitch drama and hasan, can we get back to real politics, this is so boring.
Well, somebody didn’t watch the video.
@@Observette it's either groypers or twitch tankies
@@Observette don't need to, i can already tell it's gonna be boring.
@@RetreatSequel yuck disgusting accusation
One of destinys best uploads
Hearing Kraut's voice is like a fever dream, Chiefton Splitcock in the flesh is still amogus...I don't know if he ever addressed the massive clusterfuck with the skeptosphere vs alt-right saga, I really hope Kraut toned down the 'tism since...
bro spent over an hour going through his thought process on this and you know hasan is just gonna react to like 15 tweets and tik toks and call it a day 😭
For the slowing pushing a friend over time what do you do when you friend(s) start becoming toxic and you notice them gaslighting and mistreating other friends in that friend group? Do you call them out or continue slowly convincing them?
my selfcheck on if im biased or not is that i try to boil down anything to essentials and see if my opinion stays the same.
Do you have an example of this ?
@@maywasp in 2010 a group of political activists set fire to the house of a person as a reaction of that person being outspoken against the groups believes and 2015 the group got sentenced for attemped murder. in this situations the details would be that it were right extremist neonazis in germany that set fire to the house of a local churchworker that openly spoke up against the nazis ideoligy, but i would always take a stance against this group no matter what group engages in such behavior and no matter who the victim is. hypothetically if it were left extremist activists that set fire to the house of a nazi i still would condemn the groups actions even if i dont side with any nazi believes.
Constitutional Republic with democratic elections.
Destiny should really watch the Alex O Connor - Jason Brennan podcast episode. He has a really cool and very practical sounding take about knowledge or intelligence based voting.
Common sense: the video
Woo more kraut streams!
I find it's often quite easy to attack religion, considering how much baggage it gives you.
For Christians, the questions:
-Can god create a boulder to heavy for him to lift?
-Why did god design the universe so that babies can die in agony? Do babies really need to die painfully in order for us to have free will? I already can't fly/regrow limbs, so why not order the universe so no one can harm a baby?
-Why is the ultimate test for people whether or not they have faith? If you had to prove god existed with an evidentiary standard you'd find in any criminal court, you wouldn't be able to do it. Why am I punished for my failure to believe in that? It's not like I can control what I believe.
-Epicurus Dilemma
Are all REALLY difficult questions I've only heard good answers too when people do stuff like ditch god being omnipotent or omniscient. I mean, you can't really "justify" atheism, considering it's a lack of belief. All you can really do is put forward questions that challenge a religious conception.
I don’t really see why you would bother unless something is obviously bad beliefs in something like human sacrifice is good. Clearly religion comes from a place of faith which is about accepting something I can’t 100% objectively proof it but I still belief. So you trying to beat something up with logic when they didn’t use logic to get there it’s just pointless and idk if does much positive impact for the world at large.
@@rickyrivera3623 I understand you view your foundation as one of faith... That's okay, I have faith in a few things too. At the root of natural philosophy or science, you assume a few things to be true and go from there.
I hope to see a world with less suffering, and for the most part people's religious beliefs help that happen (especially when people plug into a community by going to church). It does open up some vulnerabilities though.
-I think religion is often used to otherize or even dehumanize people, as we saw with the opposition to gay rights recently.
-I think religious people can be prone to mystical thinking and thus be susceptible to hucksters. "Alternative" cancer treatment centers spring to mind, which are some of the most evil institutions in the US.
-I think there's a common "everything happens for a reason" vibe that many religious people take on that often serves an unjust status quo, or makes them vulnerable to stuff like covid. The anti-vaccine movement was a lot of faithful believing god would shield their families from disease.
-I think religious beliefs are often at odds with scientific understanding... which has a whole bunch of negative effects. I think people have an easy time dismissing things like climate change and evolution as global scams... which is a little scary.
I'm really being general in my descriptions though. Most of these things don't apply to most religious people, y'know? I might try to shake someone's faith on a case by case basis I suppose.
Am I going to challenge the faith of a dying man? Obviously not.
If someone was playing the lottery because he believed he had divine luck... well, I'll probably say something.
I don't mind telling someone they're wrong about the origin of human life in the same way I wouldn't mind telling someone they're wrong about the color of the sky. It just depends on the context.
@@jenispizz2556 everything you wrote made a lot of sense really appreciate your comment
@@rickyrivera3623 I appreciate you too friend. If you have a different understanding, or you think there's some sort of flaw I'd love to hear about it. If not, I hope you have a good life. Just because we don't see things the same way doesn't mean we can't go out there and kick ass.
I often find myself asking questions similar to your 2nd point. I am an agnostic (Christian), but if you want the best answers (from a theistic viewpoint) you should take a look at Inspiring Philosophy's channel. IP and Destiny debated a few years ago on God's existence for starters. Very clever and honest guy, check him out. I'd like to preface this little discussion by specifying that when I mention God, I am solely referring to the Christian God for the sake of simplicity.
As for your questions,
To your 1st point, "Can god create a boulder too heavy for him to lift" If there is a God, I think it would make sense for him to be omnipotent and not to be constrained by his own creations. I think part of the Epicurus paradox stems from asking this question.
To your 2nd point, which I think can be effectively summarized as "Why does a loving God let bad things happen, or create bad things?" to which I can say, I don't know and this question stumps many. Stephen Fry (rhetorically) asked Jordan Peterson a similar question. Why does God create parasitic worms which burrow into the feet of famished African children? Why does God allow children to die from cancer? Why doesn't God punish and prevent criminals and terrible men from committing acts of savagery? Thus the Epicurus paradox arises in conjunction with your 1st point.
To your 3rd point, there are quite a few ways to prove God's existence. One can argue from an evidentiary standpoint (using science and reasoning through it) or philosophically, which, I find, requires more deep thinking and introspection. These are the two mainstream arguments in Christianity, from what I've seen, to answer this fundamental question.
Will God punish you for not believing in him? I'll answer this question by presuming that God is omniscient. If you're truly not convinced by all the apologetics you have seen in your life, provided that you have been inquisitive and honestly seeking the answers, you will not be punished. If you dogmatically reject the very notion of God and aren't willing to consider and debate the reasons and evidence, then I believe that God will punish you.
I've enjoyed thinking about this and writing it all down, please let me know what you think of my 'rebuttals', though I don't like to consider this a debate or an argument.
Also agree that just because you disagree on one or two things doesnt make you completely incompatible.
I had a girl thirsting for me hard on tinder before, she was super into me, was doing the whole complain when dont respond, really wants to see me yadayada.
Then the Roe V Wade thing happened and she asked me my policy on abort out of nowhere and I said eh I'm like 50/50 prolife/choice, I think if someone has a kid that they cant financially pay for and will lead that child to misery then they should drop it, but that doesnt mean to avoid contraceptive and use that, but on the flip side, if you can care for child but just dont want it, then you should have taken the right precautions, or have it and put it up for adoption.
Always kinda been my view, but she apparently hated my answer and dropped me on the spot. Never even got to know her position and I was like "wow what a rollercoaster, you were lusting for me so hard then ask me a political idea, and drop me instantly off a pretty milquetoast answer, probably dodged a bullet? lmao"
But its still wild to me cause it happened more than just that example, its just one example that I disagreed on like ONE thing with someone and they completely removed me. Which I guess does me no favors in either side of the political isle cause im pretty much as moderate as can be anymore, so unless I find other moderates I dont really secure new friendships 😂I'm sure theres been missed opportunities because of other reasons but theres been a lot of friendship drops/fails over just random political talks that I didnt even wanna be apart of.
Destiny if you are getting into WWI, listen to Dan Carlin's Blueprint for Armageddon .
It's an incredibly detailed deep-dive on WWI, but more in the vain of the human experience. Its descriptive on the experience of individual soldiers while keeping an eye on the political landscape and situations between countries. Cannot recommend hard enough.
44:24 meritocracy
Alright fine, I’ll go watch “Chernobyl” again
Read a book instead.
great stuff!
:-)
Destiny reacting to some kraut videos would be fantastic.
Probably never going to happen, but destiny watching the Mexican doc would be amazing
Can I down load this essay?
Destiny was so mean to poor Kraut at the end there. He’s a good dude. His voice could take on the elitist air of a William F Buckley Jr, an American from New England. He also reminded me of Mark Steyn who would fill in for Rush Limbaugh sometimes giving us an update on Uyghurs for Wednesday.
Destiny is an edgelord & mean to everyone.
>USA
>Independent Judiciary
Pick one
I love when Destiny gives advice he doesn't actually follow. My man really got high on his own supply after the redpill shit.