Thanks for watching everyone 🏁 This is the last video in my track/drag battle series, hopefully do something similar with some hot hatches very soon! Cheers 👌
Great video , I hav a 2021 m5 competition, I just wondered how much difference there is in acceleration/ speed between the m5 and the new m3/4 as u hav driven both thanks
@@nickmeyrick7213 Thank you! Off the line, the M5 would destroy it, but once rolling (30mph +), I can't imagine it would be massively different, M5 still quicker though.
@@hazardeur currently own one and it is amazing however the e92 m3 limited edition 500 I had is the best car I have ever driven!! That engine was an absolute belter!!
@@hazardeur indeed! Miss the fact that the e92 was a lot more compact too!! Also loved how u could unlock a secret sixth level of gearshift ferocity if you knew how! 😉
I dont have any issue with the size of grill but the shape of G80/82 grills are really really bad.i meant how it passed even in design department.how but how i cant get over them.such a mess to beautiful cars.
Brilliant video, thanks Joe. I've just bought an F82 M4 Comp, so very happy to see only a marginal difference between the cars - and I agree the F82 looks better!
Guys thanks for the video - I’m actually quite surprised and definitely pleased with the results! I recon my F82 might be sticking around for a bit longer..... Can’t guarantee that will be the case when the G80 M3 Touring with X-Drive is released.... Look out bank balance then I recon. Cheers for the excellent video again Joe - credit to you as usual! Cheers
0:15 that body line from front vent to the tail lights is the thing that makes the exterior of both F80 M3 and F82 M4 superior to the G80/G82. On the new one it looks like designers didn't know what they want to do with the body lines. On M3 it looks somewhat good but not as awesome as on F8x
When he first said he expected the newer car to be a full second faster on that mini 300 yard track I laughed way too hard... A few tenths sure, a full second maybe on a track 5x larger.
He said that as the X5M comparison did show up a few second difference on the same exact track, with a similar old vs new model test. So such differences are indeed possible on this track.
Hi Joe, another excellent video! As an F80 M3 owner, I looked at the specs of the G80 and saw minimal performance differences (probably due to the increased weight). This video has shown that the gearbox on the G80 is somewhat laggy as well. I still cannot get over 1) the ugly grille and 2) the broken hoffmeister kink on the new 3 series. As a 25 year BMW owner (3s, 5s, Ms, Zs and 7s over the years) this generation 3 series unfortunately brings bad memories of the Bangle 7 series (ugly then, ugly now). The F8X M cars have defined flanks, very flared wheel arches, the power dome and proper sized grilles. The marginal improvement in performance and the design of the G8X cars means there is little compelling reason to change to the new car.
Great video Joe! I have an F83 (convertible) and i love the way it looks. Had me wondering if i made the right choice when i bought it 14 months ago. This video was really eye opening for me. The new version looks great - but I think the older one looked better and the difference in performance is not enough of a difference to make me have buyers remorse!
Super job Joe - as a f82 owner it was making me cry into my cornflakes a little everyone bashing the older car in context of the new one, so this makes me feel a little better! Also, don't sell your M2 comp before I get you a custom cover for that charge cooler!
specially when the new ones are over 80k! Just couldn't justify it could you. The depreciation is bound to be massive on them too. Wait a few years and might be a bargain when you can get them for 35k.
Don't get fooled. Almost every journalist hated the F82 when it came out. The new one being better doesn't fit the narrative of "they don't make them like they used to" applied to most manufacturers except Porsche, Honda and Toyota.
Really wish BMW M would have left the Stunning F80/82 exterior alone and just updated the interior and Tuned the engine. The G series isn’t ugly but it’s not a masterpiece like the F80.
Exactly what I was waiting to see. I have 2018 M4 competition with full MPE and in M performance spec including a DTM rear spoiler. Yes it's showing its age next to the newer M4 but all in all I'd rather stick with mine. Plus mine sounds amazing with the full titanium M performance exhaust! A must have.
I owned an E92 Comp for 5 years and a F82 for 3. Both brand new. While the F82 was an incredible car I will always remember the E92 as the best car I have ever owned. - the most significant difference was the steering. I never had the same confidence in the F82 like I did in the E92. - moving on and can’t wait for the G82.
Super interesting to actually compare new to previous model in a real side by side test vs. car journalists “remembering” what the old version was like. Also your X5M new to previous road test was excellent. Keep up these comparisons!
@@JoeAchilles1 nicely set up video, and lovely to watch. Nice with the handling course as well. Next time do it with the M5C and CS, or go down the route of doing your M2C vs a M2 CS. It would be good to see this becoming your track action template of videos.
Thanks Joe for not biasing the new model just because.. Just shows the biggest evolution is in the tyres. If the F82 was on Super Sports it would be a totally different outcome..
The F82 looks so much better when it is next to G82. I had seen G80 and G82 in flesh and was never inpressed by the face. Could not keep my eyes on the grill for over 3 seconds or I would puke. Other than that, G80/82 is a big step forward.
After watching this I got the m4 compétition and put it in stage 2 … man i will never regret ! Although I was hesitating but really now I can literally eat the new m4 compétition … it’s just a waste of money the f82 in stage 2 is better looking and better in performance
There's a beautiful 2019 M4 competition,near me,for sale,at £43k,well specced with only 5k miles on the clock.Just a remap to smooth out the savage power delivery and it seems like a bargain..
Ive got a black M4 comp with red leather. 🔥. Just make sure to get the 'icon led' lights and the adaptive leds - this grey m4 looks great but doesnt have the icon's. IMO icon leds looks amazing and sharper and more modern and make the car look almost new. A chap came up to me in a petrol station a couple of days ago and said he has 2020 M4 too but my lights look so much striking. I explained that I have the icon led pack and he said his dealer told him he that. He didnt realise actually had the bmw adaptive led and felt ripped off after I showed him the light design on my car. He was gutted. For me it was a dealer break. You wont regret the f82, amazing and most colours look great anyhow. Snb was my first choice but I couldnt get red leather combi so went for black. No regrets! I still think they look better than the g82 but not seen new m4 yet
I love the sound of a good S55 as well. How do you think the steering in the new M4 feels compared to the M2 CS? The CS has the most ballistic turn-in that I’ve ever felt in a car. Thanks for the video!
Fantastic design the F82 man...this generation is as gorgeous as it gets! I have an F36 with the same design, have put BBS CH-R 19" wheels, lowered it a bit and it's just a gorgeous car! Everyone praises it hahaha
Another great vid. I have to admit I'm already used to the new front end on the G82. My only complaint is the profile and quarter panels don't look as aggressive as the front end.
Content is truly on another level now especially with this track stuff. Straight up drag races are done to death now. The new M4 makes the F82 look old and small
That new M4 looks better everytime I see it. Particularly in that darker colour and a license plate. I love the slats going across the grill too they look so cool
Would like to see this same comparison with the F82 running Bootmod3 and HAS suspension . I suspect most people running an F80/82 at this point have Bootmod3. I’d be curious to see how that compares.
Was really waiting for this video... that F82 is exactly the same spec and color as mine except I’ve added the m performance HAS kit to mine. Looks like it’s going to be a keeper for now. Thanks Joe for the awesome videos!!! Would like to see your manual M2 comp against the F82.
Great video! ... that last rip from 2nd gear from the same speed wasn't an equal start though.. they have a completely diff trans/ gearing which you obviously know
I do as well and was stoked to see this comparison come up and how well my same specked car did against the new kid on the block! Think when my warranty is out next year - I wont renew and just give her an Evolve Stage 2 tune then see what’s what!
I want you to do a drag race between the manual M4 and the automatic M4. However, you’d have to do it in somewhere like Germany or the United States where the manual is available. But I dunno if you can drive cars where the steering wheel is on the opposite side.
No. You can only get it with the automatic, but that’s 30 more horsepower and 100 more newton metres of torque than the manual. It’s kinda strange how BMW decided not to sell the M3/M4 manual in the UK where there are more manual cars in general, but they sold it in the United States where the manual transmission is slowly dying.
As an f80 owner, I have had a go at the G82 and as you really push it hard, you do feel the weight, somewhat and I resonate with this perfomance over the f82, these results, sort of stabilize the price of the f82 and f80.... But the G, Ms lare great cars, save for the grill..
Hey Joe , great content - you’re a thoroughly nice guy to listen to ! When you can it would be great to see M340i vs M340d - particularly the sexy estate versions ! All the best
You were changing up before the f80 was settled on the tightest corner, was that to keep the tail in line? I don't know the course or the cars so not being critical, just wondering because it sounded like you left a bit behind.
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Thanks for watching everyone 🏁 This is the last video in my track/drag battle series, hopefully do something similar with some hot hatches very soon! Cheers 👌
Great video , I hav a 2021 m5 competition, I just wondered how much difference there is in acceleration/ speed between the m5 and the new m3/4 as u hav driven both thanks
@@nickmeyrick7213 Thank you! Off the line, the M5 would destroy it, but once rolling (30mph +), I can't imagine it would be massively different, M5 still quicker though.
@@JoeAchilles1 thanks for the reply, keep up the good work mate great channel
Great content as always, but you need to drop the starts on the drag race better mate!
Thanks! We need to do drag races elsewhere as the surface has no grip for rwd cars
F82 exterior is a work of art!
This got me more interested in getting the old M4...
Brilliant cars and amazing value right now 👌
best car i ever owned
@@hazardeur currently own one and it is amazing however the e92 m3 limited edition 500 I had is the best car I have ever driven!! That engine was an absolute belter!!
@@Watchlover371 had an e92 too and miss it since. but the m4 comp i got after was a worthy successor. wish i could have em both lol
@@hazardeur indeed! Miss the fact that the e92 was a lot more compact too!! Also loved how u could unlock a secret sixth level of gearshift ferocity if you knew how! 😉
F82 still looks much better, even though I got used to the look of the new G82 and I stopped hating it.
Front end of the F is better but the back end of the G is fantastic 👌🏽
Tell me your ways.. I still hate that front end with all of me
@@urbanweekendwarrior7238 not for everyone. Also depends on the color. I ordered mine in blue, looks fantastic. The grey is also 👌🏽
I dont have any issue with the size of grill but the shape of G80/82 grills are really really bad.i meant how it passed even in design department.how but how i cant get over them.such a mess to beautiful cars.
@@FreshlySnipes exacltly my thoughts, after the ADRO kit, the G82 outclasses the F82
Wow that F82 looks even better when it’s side by side with its successor.
It's amazes me how the new one went with the ugly Lexus inspired design, when the old one was touted for being such a better looking car than the RCF.
Agree the G82 looks so bland side by side to the car it replaced
@@johnulmerRacing i think bmw was in a pickle and they couldn't release a new car with the same grill as all the bmw's from the 2010s.
it would have been nice to actually see them side by side without 2 motor journalists standing in the way.
@@larrywexner4163 Dont fix what isnt broken...
My f82 is the best car I’ve ever owned. Puts a smile in my face every time I drive it. No matter the mood. Always makes you happy.
Loving the formula lately. Great little private track & drag strip, fun guests with cars, small production crew helping out. Very entertaining!
Thanks buddy, hopefully do more soon with some hot hatches 👌
The F82 comp is the most beautiful, fun, amazing car ever. I'm still in love.
One has more power, the other is the better car. Probably the best colour/spec for the F82.
Brilliant video, thanks Joe.
I've just bought an F82 M4 Comp, so very happy to see only a marginal difference between the cars - and I agree the F82 looks better!
👌🙌. Likewise, got mine about 8 months ago
what year is ur M4 and how much did u bought it
F82=Perfect🙌
This is exactly the battle I want to see..... I have the same spec F82 so very interested! Woo Hoo!
Haha awesome! Sure you will be fairly happy with the overall outcome 😉
Guys thanks for the video - I’m actually quite surprised and definitely pleased with the results! I recon my F82 might be sticking around for a bit longer..... Can’t guarantee that will be the case when the G80 M3 Touring with X-Drive is released.... Look out bank balance then I recon. Cheers for the excellent video again Joe - credit to you as usual! Cheers
The old one is definitely the best looking one ever with the v8 second place, I think it will be an absolute classic one day
@@scottmuir2385 check moto go today, the new m4 just isn't as good looking as the old one or the m2 at all
@@thomasVA9707 - Cheers Mate!
0:15 that body line from front vent to the tail lights is the thing that makes the exterior of both F80 M3 and F82 M4 superior to the G80/G82. On the new one it looks like designers didn't know what they want to do with the body lines. On M3 it looks somewhat good but not as awesome as on F8x
f82 became an instant classic
When he first said he expected the newer car to be a full second faster on that mini 300 yard track I laughed way too hard... A few tenths sure, a full second maybe on a track 5x larger.
He said that as the X5M comparison did show up a few second difference on the same exact track, with a similar old vs new model test. So such differences are indeed possible on this track.
Got myself an F83 Recently ; New ones are cool but defiantly 1st gen M4 ticks my boxes a bit better
Watching the laps, I thought the older car looked like it was much more composed - almost to the point you weren’t pushing it so hard!
Man the f82 in grey will always be my favorite 🤤
He definitely didn’t push the the F82 as hard on the track
Hi Joe, another excellent video! As an F80 M3 owner, I looked at the specs of the G80 and saw minimal performance differences (probably due to the increased weight). This video has shown that the gearbox on the G80 is somewhat laggy as well. I still cannot get over 1) the ugly grille and 2) the broken hoffmeister kink on the new 3 series. As a 25 year BMW owner (3s, 5s, Ms, Zs and 7s over the years) this generation 3 series unfortunately brings bad memories of the Bangle 7 series (ugly then, ugly now). The F8X M cars have defined flanks, very flared wheel arches, the power dome and proper sized grilles. The marginal improvement in performance and the design of the G8X cars means there is little compelling reason to change to the new car.
When Joe starts making videos more often, you hit the notification button!
Love the F82 looks, it's perfect from all angles. The G82 seems like more of a brute though
Great video Joe! I have an F83 (convertible) and i love the way it looks. Had me wondering if i made the right choice when i bought it 14 months ago. This video was really eye opening for me. The new version looks great - but I think the older one looked better and the difference in performance is not enough of a difference to make me have buyers remorse!
I want that car too, the f83 is spectacular
Super job Joe - as a f82 owner it was making me cry into my cornflakes a little everyone bashing the older car in context of the new one, so this makes me feel a little better! Also, don't sell your M2 comp before I get you a custom cover for that charge cooler!
Quite disheartening by the new car, thought it would be miles ahead of the older car.
I guess I should say its a credit to how good the old car was/is
specially when the new ones are over 80k! Just couldn't justify it could you. The depreciation is bound to be massive on them too. Wait a few years and might be a bargain when you can get them for 35k.
Don't get fooled. Almost every journalist hated the F82 when it came out. The new one being better doesn't fit the narrative of "they don't make them like they used to" applied to most manufacturers except Porsche, Honda and Toyota.
Really wish BMW M would have left the Stunning F80/82 exterior alone and just updated the interior and Tuned the engine. The G series isn’t ugly but it’s not a masterpiece like the F80.
I think the G is ugly… plain and simple. The F8X looks good from any angle.
You'll get used to it and complain about the new m4. So obvious
@@zervont3046 what? It’s ugly compared to to F80 gen. The end.
@@zervont3046been years, still ugly as hell
Exactly what I was waiting to see. I have 2018 M4 competition with full MPE and in M performance spec including a DTM rear spoiler. Yes it's showing its age next to the newer M4 but all in all I'd rather stick with mine. Plus mine sounds amazing with the full titanium M performance exhaust! A must have.
Your only see it’s age interior wise and even then it’s minor shit
I owned an E92 Comp for 5 years and a F82 for 3. Both brand new. While the F82 was an incredible car I will always remember the E92 as the best car I have ever owned. - the most significant difference was the steering. I never had the same confidence in the F82 like I did in the E92. - moving on and can’t wait for the G82.
Beauty and the beast! Damn that F82 looks stunning!
The f82 just looks so refined. It isn’t a confusing design and us so much more easier on the eyes than the new m4
This is good stuff. This is what will make a channel popular
Super interesting to actually compare new to previous model in a real side by side test vs. car journalists “remembering” what the old version was like. Also your X5M new to previous road test was excellent. Keep up these comparisons!
I keep saying the f82 will only go up in value. Even more convinced after watching this video
Didn't really like your videos before but they are a lot better now! Well done with the progress!
Great seeing these kind of videos on the channel Joe. More of this :)
Thanks buddy, appreciate you watching them mate 👊
@@JoeAchilles1 nicely set up video, and lovely to watch. Nice with the handling course as well. Next time do it with the M5C and CS, or go down the route of doing your M2C vs a M2 CS. It would be good to see this becoming your track action template of videos.
Digging the new branding Joe - keep it up mate! Great content as always
Was waiting for this video for a long time
The old m4 is gorgeous
Even though I don't do BMW anymore, if I had to choose, it would be the F. New one SUCKS big time... Great video 👍🏻
The F82 really shines, it's my favourite, or even better the F80.
Thanks Joe for not biasing the new model just because..
Just shows the biggest evolution is in the tyres. If the F82 was on Super Sports it would be a totally different outcome..
The F82 looks so much better when it is next to G82. I had seen G80 and G82 in flesh and was never inpressed by the face. Could not keep my eyes on the grill for over 3 seconds or I would puke. Other than that, G80/82 is a big step forward.
Big step forward ? Interior I would agree but performance and handling and looks certainly not. If anything the size and weight is a step backwards.
These new videos are really entertaining. Well done Joe
At long last someone doing a comparison that makes sense on the same PS4S tires ... thanks Joe, great idea.
Michelin Pilot Sport 4 S > Michelin Super Sports
The biggest performance upgrade that you can make to any M car.
Hardly a bigger turbo would be the biggest!
Great video Joe. Loved it. It’s great to see some old and new comparisons
Really helpful comparison - thanks Joe 👌🏻
Mega video Joe, thanks for the comparison. I would definitely still choose the F82 over the G82 ;) John seems like a really nice guy.
finally the video ive been looking for that no ones done!!
Thought the new G82 would have been a lot quicker ......great video
Love these new content and good driving skill as well, keep up the good work bro 👏
Would love to see an F82 with a remap and GTS flash against the G82
finally a good comparison between the f and the g
After watching this I got the m4 compétition and put it in stage 2 … man i will never regret ! Although I was hesitating but really now I can literally eat the new m4 compétition … it’s just a waste of money the f82 in stage 2 is better looking and better in performance
Fantastic video, very interesting, nicely presented (both drivers have very nice style). Really enjoyed the content
Love the vids, Joe!
Thanks for watching!
Performance aside, The F82 is just gorgeous.
I mean, the f82 performed dang well stock. Is also the funnest car to drive. Ask me how I know
@@felipemiranda8932 I leased a 2015 M4 and re upped for 2018 zcp. I loved the look but not the shifter and snap oversteer :)
I was getting a tiny bit used to the M4's look, but seeing it next to the F80 just undid all of that.
Great video! You’re producing some quality content 👍 love these comparison videos.
8:39 the beep caught me out lol hilarious
New m4 in this spec and color looks good
Good video Joe!
Thanks buddy 👊👊
There's a beautiful 2019 M4 competition,near me,for sale,at £43k,well specced with only 5k miles on the clock.Just a remap to smooth out the savage power delivery and it seems like a bargain..
If it’s not San Marino blue don’t bother
Ive got a black M4 comp with red leather. 🔥. Just make sure to get the 'icon led' lights and the adaptive leds - this grey m4 looks great but doesnt have the icon's. IMO icon leds looks amazing and sharper and more modern and make the car look almost new. A chap came up to me in a petrol station a couple of days ago and said he has 2020 M4 too but my lights look so much striking. I explained that I have the icon led pack and he said his dealer told him he that. He didnt realise actually had the bmw adaptive led and felt ripped off after I showed him the light design on my car. He was gutted. For me it was a dealer break. You wont regret the f82, amazing and most colours look great anyhow. Snb was my first choice but I couldnt get red leather combi so went for black. No regrets! I still think they look better than the g82 but not seen new m4 yet
I love the sound of a good S55 as well. How do you think the steering in the new M4 feels compared to the M2 CS? The CS has the most ballistic turn-in that I’ve ever felt in a car. Thanks for the video!
Heavier because of that massive grill 😂😂😂
Awesome run there. Enjoyed the pair up v much!
I’ll take the 2019 any day over the current monstrosity
Fantastic design the F82 man...this generation is as gorgeous as it gets! I have an F36 with the same design, have put BBS CH-R 19" wheels, lowered it a bit and it's just a gorgeous car! Everyone praises it hahaha
Exciting to see more and more of Joe's driving skills!
G82 is very aggressive, but the F82 is just beautiful.
Another great vid. I have to admit I'm already used to the new front end on the G82. My only complaint is the profile and quarter panels don't look as aggressive as the front end.
As with the 2 series coupe the rest quarter panels are to big. Wheels actually look smaller than the front .
Oscar!!! Greetings!
@@TommyLGarage hey!! TLG!! Hope you’re releasing a new vid tomorrow. Starts off my Sundays.
Exactly, spot on! Rear view from an angle is weird and doesn't have that aggressive M car look.
Moment I saw the tittle, instant like.
Content is truly on another level now especially with this track stuff. Straight up drag races are done to death now. The new M4 makes the F82 look old and small
both are great cars, to be honest, the new M4 probably is only having a better interior than the old one but nothing else
Could you do a Drag Race between the new m3/4 and the new m550i?
I think it could be interesting.
That new M4 looks better everytime I see it. Particularly in that darker colour and a license plate. I love the slats going across the grill too they look so cool
Would like to see this same comparison with the F82 running Bootmod3 and HAS suspension . I suspect most people running an F80/82 at this point have Bootmod3. I’d be curious to see how that compares.
what is the name of the color of the M4 F82?
very good Video. I know your Channel from Carwow. Greetings from Germany
F82 all the way. Proper gearbox. And lighter weight.
Yep.
Awesome, quite surprised how well the F82 did. Would be nice to see an OG M2 vs M2C battle here
Was really waiting for this video... that F82 is exactly the same spec and color as mine except I’ve added the m performance HAS kit to mine. Looks like it’s going to be a keeper for now. Thanks Joe for the awesome videos!!! Would like to see your manual M2 comp against the F82.
Im here for the old model. Looks better, has same options
Entertaining & informative, love it!
Old one looks way better
Great video! ... that last rip from 2nd gear from the same speed wasn't an equal start though.. they have a completely diff trans/ gearing which you obviously know
What a video, I’ve the exact same F82!
Me too!! Amazing!
I do as well and was stoked to see this comparison come up and how well my same specked car did against the new kid on the block! Think when my warranty is out next year - I wont renew and just give her an Evolve Stage 2 tune then see what’s what!
Thanks for the comparison Joe. Loving the content to👌
Basically get the older gen with a tune and sticky tires and your good..I still feel that extra power in the new one gives it a bit more top end tho
I want you to do a drag race between the manual M4 and the automatic M4.
However, you’d have to do it in somewhere like Germany or the United States where the manual is available.
But I dunno if you can drive cars where the steering wheel is on the opposite side.
Yeah would need to be somewhere that gets the manual version, the auto would win though.
Australia would be good. They have the manual M4, but also drive on the same side as the UK.
But cos of uncertainties going on about travel abroad from the UK during the summer, you’d have to wait for a while.
@@DaveDVideoMaker Doesn't the uk version offer a manual?
No. You can only get it with the automatic, but that’s 30 more horsepower and 100 more newton metres of torque than the manual.
It’s kinda strange how BMW decided not to sell the M3/M4 manual in the UK where there are more manual cars in general, but they sold it in the United States where the manual transmission is slowly dying.
The F82 looks amazing. WTF kind of sickness does the G82 have?
Why on earth did they get rid of the body line and the kink
Great vid fella! Close run thing that 🙌
As an f80 owner, I have had a go at the G82 and as you really push it hard, you do feel the weight, somewhat and I resonate with this perfomance over the f82, these results, sort of stabilize the price of the f82 and f80.... But the G, Ms lare great cars, save for the grill..
Thanks for the comparison..👍🏾
Hey Joe , great content - you’re a thoroughly nice guy to listen to ! When you can it would be great to see M340i vs M340d - particularly the sexy estate versions ! All the best
You were changing up before the f80 was settled on the tightest corner, was that to keep the tail in line? I don't know the course or the cars so not being critical, just wondering because it sounded like you left a bit behind.
Hey Joe- i know this is an old video. BMW revised the Comp Pack suspension for 2019-2020 model year F82. Loved to have seen the 2019 CS vs M4 Comp G82
man the older M4 looks so mean I love it
Very good video, but can’t understand why you not clean the g82 before filming...?
Great video, would you do a comparison video on 2 different m5 models new v older drag and track