5:54 And, no, this is not a decent PSU, if you read the specs, it doesn't even has a 80+ cetification. A VS550 from Corsair is better and has 80+ certification and is similarly priced
Ryzen 1400 from aliexpress 63 rx570 4gb for 100 dollars even 90 dollars of aliexpress gigabyte a320m motherboard 54.99 amazon 16gb 3200mhz ram from team force 64.99 or patriot viper for 60 dollars amazon aswell adata su760 49.99 amazon aswell case fractal design focus g mini 46.99 amazon aswell powersupply thermaltake 430w psu for 35.99 the power supply is reliable don't worry system only pulls 300w on load total of about 420 dollars make a video out of it if you want the links reply to this comment and I shall give links to the actual items not the page for you to look for them
$500 Build: Sapphire Pulse RX 570 4GB w/ dual fans - $146 Amazon Cougar MX330-X - $40 Amazon AsRock B450M Pro4 - $80 Amazon Thermaltake Smart 500W 80+ - $41 Amazon WD Blue 1TB 7200 RPM HDD - $40 Amazon Ryzen 5 1600 - $100 Amazon G.Skill Ripjaws V 8GB (2x4) F4-3200C16D-8GVKB 3200 CL16 - $43 Newegg $400 Build: Remove the Ryzen 1600, RX 570, and G.Skill Ram and replace with the following parts (You can also exchange the Thermaltake 500W for the 430W variant): Ryzen 2200G - $78 Amazon G.Skill Ripjaws V 16GB (2x8) F4-3200C14D-16GVK 3200 CL14 - $120 Newegg The $400 build would be equivalent (after a stable all core OC at 3.8 GHz, and a little tightening on the RAM timings) to an i5 4690 and a GTX 750 ti in gaming performance. So ESports titles should be fluid at 1080p high, and most AAA titles are 900p low-med playable. The $500 build is a WAY better option as you will get a great 1080p high experience. As with any budget oriented build, things are always up for change, and little changes in budget can make a HUGE difference in what you can obtain. Trying to get used parts is always a great way to save money, especially by reusing an existing case or getting a used for next to nothing. Doing that alone can save you $40, allowing you to step up to an RX 580 or adding a 240GB M.2 drive to the $500. In the $400 build's case, you can swap the 2200G out for the 2400G giving you 4 extra threads and further helping out your gameplay experience.
@@DawidDoesTechStuff my parents won't even buy me 1 LOL. I have an i3 7100 3.9 GHz. 8GB (2×4). Intel HD 630. H110M-E/M.2 mother board. if I get 1st rank in my class this time I would get a RX 570.
@@DawidDoesTechStuff They probably look at that HP Pavilion and that scam and say: "Oh this gpu has a higher number than that HP computer, so it must be better!"
well "technically" any gpu that supports dx 11 is "vr rated" now "vr ready" or "vr playable" is a hugely different. also the 3200g is a great budget vr cpu
@@calebreboulet4512 well "technically" it can run vr content mainly vr movies and such but for games its different. that's why they can get away with saying vr rated and it not be false advertising
@@DiamondDepthYT So I heard, though it'd still be preferable to upgrade the GPU (mine's a 4GB VRAM GDDR6 GTX 1650, so it's minimum for high fidelity VR, and would die if faced against HL: Alyx lol)
@@ZudeXbox360 Probably depends on the headset as they have different resoultions and refresh rates. My gf has an old Oculus Rift and playing VR was fine on that using her GTX 1050ti. EDIT: This is of course me just saying you should be fine with your 1650 and not me supporting the 710. :P Though....it would be entertaining to see dawid try and get it to work with VR.
My mom bought me one for Christmas last year when I knew nothing about PCs. Good thing my stepdad replaced everything besides the motherboard, the cpu, and the power supply.
@@ICCUWANSIUT I'd say between 400-500. I have a build right now that I've gotten help with but unfortunately prices went up over $80. I'm hoping cyber monday brings it down and I could even pick up some better parts for cheap.
i think the mainboard is that cheap it doesnt have video output to use amd gpu, so they went even cheaper on a dedicated steaming pile of video card hoping to catch the technically misinforned xd
@@DawidDoesTechStuff this system is an outright scam. Someone will see "Nvidia Geforce Graphics" and think it's an amazing gaming system. The only reason it's installed. Unless you need Nvenc or nvidia specific software. But the 710 specifically makes no sense.
@@NotSandhorst another fun fact: this cpu was actually mine but his pc broke and now he has my pc just with that gpu, plus he doesnt want me to upgrade it or make it better in any way, specs: 4gb ddr4 2400mhz ram, r3 2200g, the crappy gpu, a crappy ssd, another ssd for some reason ,another ssd, a sound card which is worse than the mobo's, and a usb 2 mouse and keyboard and a vga monitor
This was the first PC I ever bought when I didn’t know about pc’s was so bad compared to playing on consoles I returned it, luckily I know about pc’s and have built my own, sad that companies basically scam people
This is my selection: CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor ($99.12 @ Amazon) Motherboard: ASRock A320M-HDV R4.0 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($54.99 @ Amazon) Memory: Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($59.99 @ Newegg) Storage: ADATA SU800 512 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($75.98 @ Amazon) Video Card: ASRock Radeon RX 570 4 GB Phantom Gaming D Video Card ($129.99 @ Newegg) Case: Thermaltake Versa H18 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($42.98 @ Newegg) Power Supply: Thermaltake Smart 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Amazon) Total: $523.04 I put in a A320, but prefer the MSI B450M Bazooka for $30 more. I also could have picked a cheaper Power Supply but that's a definite no-no.
@@DawidDoesTechStuff Thanks. I think that budget, game selection/application and proper design strategy are key. If an 3400G/2400G can play ones games at acceptable levels, start there. If not start with an R5-1600 and RX570. If the RX570 doesn't cut it, then go higher. Don't be afraid of the used market and get cheap RX 5x0's or a Vega 56. Why don't you do a video (series)? highlighting these concepts. This video is a great start!
Thermlake smart... Please, dont. I've got one, the first year that's okay, after... That's the main problem of my PC : noisy as HELL Dont take it ! That's just chineses products
That's too bad. I just bought a Thermaltake Smart ProRGB 650W 80+ Bronze for a new 2600x build 7 months ago. Draws were 7 year warranty and Japanese caps, and it was on sale. I always over spec power supplies so there running in the low/normal zone. It is whisper quiet though. If it was noisier than I imagined it should be, then I would have RMA'd it or got Amazon to replace it. Irritating noise is unacceptable as that could be mean there's other issues. Fortunately being in my late 50's I filter higher frequencies naturally. Be good to yourself and don't suffer the noise because it really shouldn't do that. Also, that's why I went modular, if the PSU goes bad, 4 screws, unplug the cables and off it goes. And the test of a good company is how stressful their RMA system. I've only had to RMA hard drives many years ago and Western Digital was excellent.
@@maxwellsmart3156 I'm also using a 2600x, but I'm 18. Trust me, I clearly hear that sound, it's like the fan isnt fixed to the psu... And I cant even repair it by myself because the box has no screws For 70€, that was clearly a bad deal... And it's a 730W for a consumption (consummation ? IDK the word sorry) of 500W ! 550 max in load + OC. But warranty dosnt apply anymore and I'm waiting for january for upgrades my PC. I'll go for a alphacool psu, love that brand for their cases, hope it'll be good for their psu too
My mom bought me this type of pre-built, only difference was it was DDR3 Ram, and an AMD FX 6300 with like a 300W powersuppy. I've since then upgraded severely but still I remember trying to play anything and just about failed.
At the time I didn’t know anything about pc so when my pc stopped porting on the screen I put my graphics card inside the over at like 150c and didn’t work so after like 2 months I fixed it it was a cpu problem
5:48 I can almost confirm this. When I first got into PC gaming, I was a noob so I went to Fry's to look at some prebuilts, and even the salesman told me that whenever they get a return, at least 80% of the time it's an iBuyPower system.
@@BigBoss549 Same. I do all my shopping for PC hardware online now. ( _Especially_ now) But I do miss going to Fry's. Even though the only one in my area is way out in Bumfuck Egypt! xD Man did they have a selection though. I could spend hours in there just looking, not even buy anything and still walk out satisfied!
What the heck, I found this "Gaming PC" just now and I was like "Why the heck is a GT 710 doing in a GAMING PC??" and then suddenly this pops up in my recommendations minutes later. Seriously, what is that GT 710 doing there and why does the FX-6300 + GT710 variant cost $20 more (w/o discount) when the R3 3200G alone is 1.5-2 times better than the FX-6300 NOT TO MENTION the difference between the GT 710 and the RX 560? What is iBUYPOWER smoking??
basically they put in the cheapest GPU they can find just so they can advertise it as having a dedicated graphics card. It's all to deceive and fool people who just don't know better while making the biggest profit possible.
When I bought an ibuypower pc it said it came with dual channel ram but when I picked it up it only had one. Wasn’t a big deal to me because I immediately took it out and put 2 16 gig sticks in it. Other than that I’ve had 0 complaints it’s been an absolutely perfect prebuilt
I’m glad I talked myself out of buying a prebuilt computer. Now some prebuilt computers are worth it, but everything I’ve seen seem either too much for the components in the price range I was looking at, or I just hated the way it looked. So I decided to just build my own. I got an Enthoo Luxe 2 (I refuse to call it a 719) and now I’m just waiting for Black Friday to pick up most of the components. Also I’ve been rocking a stash for 7 years now.
Off topic but I really enjoyed your interview with Tom (Moore's Law is Dead). I've been trying to place your accent for a while. I guessed Welsh, my bad.
@@DawidDoesTechStuff Not sure but it seemed to be a weird enough way to spell David ;-) Lot's of Nordic influences in the Isles and the way you pronounce your name DAH-vid seems to rooted in Swedish/Norwegian. So your nickname is now Tech Ragnar.
There is a problem with "getting a friend good at it to help", since if you need help, you can't tell if they're really good or they just think they're good.
When I worked at Best Buy, I had a customer (parents and their kid) coming in saying they bought this or a system like this. Luckily the reason they were at Best Buy was because they returned that system and were looking for one that was more acceptable or rather, *capable* for gaming.
there should be a website that enthusiasts go on and charge people like 40 dollars instead of the 150 that most prebuilts put on top of their systems for building it and stuff to build people PC's. I know I'd be happy to charge that much for a PC build as I enjoy doing it and custom water cooling would be even more fun. There could be like a whole verification process with like a video chat to confirm that you actually can build a PC and you could become a verified seller (which you wouldn't need a degree for you would only have to pass that process). As the website they could take like a small cut of the fee not only for profit but also as money to like keep the servers running.
I got a cyberpower GMA600 gamer Master and i love it! It can run 90 to 120 FPS in fortnite. It sometimes drops to 70 though. The most FPS i saw it went up to was 144 on fortnite. This is my first ever gaming PC and its a good starter PC. If you already had PCs and you want to get a Good running PC don't get a cyberpower PC. A cyberpower pc is a starter PC. I do want to upgrade my ryzen 3 to a ryzen 7 and i want to upgrade my graphics card to a 1060 since i got a 1030 but the pc is good. I recommend you to get it for a starter PC and i guess its also good cause i got a 144Hertz Sceptre gaming monitor..
This is why i took one day to learn about PC parts so that i dont fall into these stupid traps. If i ever buy a pre-build after this video which i doubt it.
If you have pc knowledge but dont have the time to build one, using that knowledge you can determine which prebuilts are good for the price, I have the knowledge and managed in minutes to find a company that most of the time can be worth it, so if you are getting a prebuilt, I recommend taking the time anyway to get the knowledge of computers, plus, it helps you determine if your pc will run certain games, knowing your specs and understanding what they mean is very helpful if you are a budget gamer.
Extra video outs, probably. Because that A320/whatever cheapshit chipset motherboard isn't going to have more than one video out (probably HDMI), the 710 would provide extra outs. Then you set primary processing to the APU, and use the 710 as a pass through. Sounds like a decent idea to me.
Microcenter makes pretty good prebuilt machines. Noteably they use decent off-the-shelf bits, so their cheaper and business machines are quite extensible.
$100 in labor, OEM key, and initial Windows installation isn't a bad deal IMO. I spend a lot of time building a computer to make sure it looks good when it's done, and I like to think I'm worth it. It's another reason why independent builders don't make this a full time job because system builders are well established, buy in bulk, get wholesale deals from various companies, and have an assembly line of sorts to get things done faster.
That is a good point. I do agree that if the system was well built it would be more worth it. I guess I would only really be able to judge if that $100 is worth it after looking at the actual finished PC.
Built my first pc 4 years ago, and currently in the process of upgrading it. Will probably never buy a prefab again, unless a really good one comes at an insane discount.
1:54 those are the same product bud, they just have different colors on the module. They mis-labeled the grey kit as 8GB, when really it is TWO 8GB sticks.
Great advice! Stay away from pre builts even high end ones as there is always human error and some thing somewhere wont quite be connected so watch and learn from youtube as there is some great knowledge around to learn from as i did after buying 2 pre builts,after work i would sit and watch and take in and all has been great since,even troubleshooting any issues that i caused myself🤣building is easy its the problem solving when somethings not right that can be tricky but well worth it in the end
Man go connect it your Mobo not GPU and remove the GPU and sell it on used market put more ram sell your psu and put better psu and maybe put Rx 570 or 580 you van
@@eoghan_2061 🤣 yeah I had my suspicions cz if anyone is a viewer of such a channel would be a viewer of similar channels and would know not buy shit like ths
I bought that HP pc and it’s pretty good. Only thing that kinda bottlenecks it is the 8GB of RAM. 2GB are used up by the graphics card. If anyone is wanting to buy it, buy another RAM stick as there’s 2 slots on the motherboard
Recently my friend asked me about a PC he had found on amazon was good and worth the price at his $600 price point. Having now built 2 PCs now, I was definitely the right choice in who to ask about that. It had a Ryzen 5 2600 (pretty okay for a budget system), but only had a GTX 650 in it. I explained to him that it was a big rip off and that the crap computer I had him using when he stopped by my place had had a GTX 760 and still didn't run great. I made 3 good lists of parts around his price point and left him with that. It goes to show that even people who are willing to get into PCs but aren't willing to watch videos on graphics card, performance, system building etc etc will face a tough time when presented with systems that amazon shows to them.
The ram kits costs the same because they're both actually 16GB, if you look they both say 2x8GB in brackets one is just labelled as 8GB (probably telling you what each stick has for some unknown reason) where the other is labelled the total of both
Lmao who would buy that:DD, btw I found your channel a week ago and it is very entertaining. I recently bought my first gaming/streaming PC and the parts should come in a day. So rate it, I did a lot of research before buying it. Ryzen 5 3600 MSI Gaming X GTX 1660ti Asrock B450 Pro4 G.Skill RipjawsV 3200mhz (2x8gb) DDR4 CL16 Kingston A2000 M.2 Nvme 256gb Seagate barracuda 1tb hdd Corsair Carbide Spec 04 black/red case be quiet! System power 9 - 600w CM, semi - modular.
That looks pretty good to me. I probably would try to temp you to reach for a 2060 2080 but I understand being on a budget. I don't know the reason for the 1660ti other than the budget. If it were me, I would save another 50 bucks and reach a little higher but that's the only thing I would look at changing. Thumbs up still.
I bought a non used pc for 400€ cpu amd ryzen r3 1300x and a gtx980 8gb ram avg fps 145 max 297 and min 90 i saw fps drops sometimes but I just bought a new cpu (amd ryzen r7 2700x) and now there is no fps drops at all and much better perfomance
use pcpartpicker.com to be able to shop around for best pricing at multiple dealers. its what i use to find deals. sometimes i go a bit overboard. lol.
Those are some ridiculous PC's... considering this time LAST YEAR i found a Lenovo with a 7th gen i-5 and an rx560 for just over $500...and for $600 i built a 2200g +rx580, barely having a clue what i was doing
If investing in dedicated graphics card recommend a Ryzen 5 1600 6 core 12 thread processor all day long over the Ryzen 3 2200g 4 core 4 thread. Some great deals around now on R5 1600.
Now I really love your content and I am now watching some of your old videos for fun. But my god you look so different without your beard it is almost ridiculous xD Please never shape that off again
If the seller straight up installing the another sticks of ram but not the gt 710, then it can be a good budget gaming PC with the amd integrated graphics.
Honestly, the worst part of the PC is that they bothered to include a graphics card at all. The iGPU on the 3200G is very competent, yet the GT710 is trash. In other words, people who forget to plug in the monitor to the graphics card and plug into the motherboard instead will have a better experience. Also, the PSU you added to the list was... really bad. No 80+ certification, and group regulated.
Asrock b450 steel legend $79 Ryzen 5 2600 $117 Geil Evo x ii 16gb 3200 $69 Nitro rx 580 8gb $120 Ebay Cm 550w bronze $49 120gb m.2 $19 Case $40 Under $550 beast I build this pc and is amazing 1080p/1440p 60+ in most games in ultra/high thanks for the videos!!
I build my first gaming pc not long time ago for ~600$, it contains: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1660 6gb Intel i5-9400f DDR4 2x8gb 2666MHz ram Mother board GIGABYTE GA-H110M-S2PV Power supply COOLERMASTER MWE V2 550W , how fine is it?
years (and i mean years) ago i bought a pre-built pc from a local home based seller. He convinced me that i had bought a 500mb (yes mb) hard drive - which was a lot when windows 95 was around :) and infact he had installed hard drive compression software on it with a 4x ration so infact my harddrive was only 128mb. Scammer everywhere all trying to steal a buck from an honest person..
I have one even worse than this its the GUA520 by cyber power gaming, I got it for like 700$ about a good 5 or 6 years ago, and they try to keep the same price on an fx-4300 its hilarious, honestly I just want to sell it for like 250 it still works just fine, has windows 10 and I even upgraded the GPU to an rx460 I'm oretty sure it was a gt730 before hand
I am Building my 1st pc soon and i asked someone i know to be present for only 1 thing. Making sure i use enough thermal paste. I have been watching and gathering enough Intel to feel confident enough that i can build it 😀.
Got a ryzen 5 5600x in a prebuilt and a gt 710 2Gb BUT i picked the gt 710 cuz i am waiting for the 3080 to get in stock the other parts are 750 watt psu, dual channel 16 gig ram and b550
This exact computer is being sold on multiple different places including Best Buy, Office Depot, Walmart, Amazon, etc. The reviews on all of these websites are overwhelmingly positive and suspiciously, most of the reviewers are not verified buyers. I believe that iBuyPower is artificially rating their products with positive reviews.
For a gaming pc it's bad, for other purposes since it has two gpus there is one advantage you got. You can run two OSes at the same time with a small margin of resources that this comes with.
Let me know what PC you would build for $400. The best configuration will forever live in infamy.
@IIAXxo ShadowII On a good sale, that would be awesome!
The motherboard is an MSI A320M or very similar
5:54 And, no, this is not a decent PSU, if you read the specs, it doesn't even has a 80+ cetification. A VS550 from Corsair is better and has 80+ certification and is similarly priced
Ryzen 1400 from aliexpress 63 rx570 4gb for 100 dollars even 90 dollars of aliexpress gigabyte a320m motherboard 54.99 amazon 16gb 3200mhz ram from team force 64.99 or patriot viper for 60 dollars amazon aswell adata su760 49.99 amazon aswell case fractal design focus g mini 46.99 amazon aswell powersupply thermaltake 430w psu for 35.99 the power supply is reliable don't worry system only pulls 300w on load total of about 420 dollars make a video out of it if you want the links reply to this comment and I shall give links to the actual items not the page for you to look for them
$500 Build:
Sapphire Pulse RX 570 4GB w/ dual fans - $146 Amazon
Cougar MX330-X - $40 Amazon
AsRock B450M Pro4 - $80 Amazon
Thermaltake Smart 500W 80+ - $41 Amazon
WD Blue 1TB 7200 RPM HDD - $40 Amazon
Ryzen 5 1600 - $100 Amazon
G.Skill Ripjaws V 8GB (2x4) F4-3200C16D-8GVKB 3200 CL16 - $43 Newegg
$400 Build:
Remove the Ryzen 1600, RX 570, and G.Skill Ram and replace with the following parts (You can also exchange the Thermaltake 500W for the 430W variant):
Ryzen 2200G - $78 Amazon
G.Skill Ripjaws V 16GB (2x8) F4-3200C14D-16GVK 3200 CL14 - $120 Newegg
The $400 build would be equivalent (after a stable all core OC at 3.8 GHz, and a little tightening on the RAM timings) to an i5 4690 and a GTX 750 ti in gaming performance. So ESports titles should be fluid at 1080p high, and most AAA titles are 900p low-med playable. The $500 build is a WAY better option as you will get a great 1080p high experience. As with any budget oriented build, things are always up for change, and little changes in budget can make a HUGE difference in what you can obtain. Trying to get used parts is always a great way to save money, especially by reusing an existing case or getting a used for next to nothing. Doing that alone can save you $40, allowing you to step up to an RX 580 or adding a 240GB M.2 drive to the $500. In the $400 build's case, you can swap the 2200G out for the 2400G giving you 4 extra threads and further helping out your gameplay experience.
"please unplug gpu to increase perfomance"
It'll be like that sometimes😂
XD
ahahahah
yep that works in this situation
@Gaming York Then you will be able to upgrade it with a little budget!
I just feel bad for the parents who buy these for their kids because they just don’t know any better 🙈
Yeah right! It really is a shame.
@@DawidDoesTechStuff my parents won't even buy me 1 LOL.
I have an i3 7100 3.9 GHz. 8GB (2×4). Intel HD 630. H110M-E/M.2 mother board. if I get 1st rank in my class this time I would get a RX 570.
@@DawidDoesTechStuff They probably look at that HP Pavilion and that scam and say: "Oh this gpu has a higher number than that HP computer, so it must be better!"
Arkeshan just get a job and buy a pc for yourself
@@RAGEGAMINGRG No job for people under 18. I'm 15
I love how the gt 710 is “vr rated”
I was surprised that he didn't see that.
well "technically" any gpu that supports dx 11 is "vr rated" now "vr ready" or "vr playable" is a hugely different. also the 3200g is a great budget vr cpu
Cliff Racer I agree that the ryzen 3 3200g is a good budget cpu but I’m talking about the GPU
Gt 710 is trash gtx 1060 6gb is a vr rady card not gt 710
@@calebreboulet4512 well "technically" it can run vr content mainly vr movies and such but for games its different. that's why they can get away with saying vr rated and it not be false advertising
Ah yes, the GT 710, definitely "VR Ready"
I assume it's ready because as soon as you rip the card out it'll become VR enabled
Don't you need like a 1660 minimum to do VR reliably? I have a GTX 1650 and I am certain it isn't capable of doing VR, or it's like bad VR
@@ZudeXbox360 I have a 1650 super and I play VR fine
@@DiamondDepthYT So I heard, though it'd still be preferable to upgrade the GPU (mine's a 4GB VRAM GDDR6 GTX 1650, so it's minimum for high fidelity VR, and would die if faced against HL: Alyx lol)
@@ZudeXbox360 Probably depends on the headset as they have different resoultions and refresh rates. My gf has an old Oculus Rift and playing VR was fine on that using her GTX 1050ti.
EDIT: This is of course me just saying you should be fine with your 1650 and not me supporting the 710. :P Though....it would be entertaining to see dawid try and get it to work with VR.
@@ZudeXbox360 1060
3:45
Roblox "150+"
Roblox is capped at 60fps
Edit: Yes, I know you can use fps unlocker. I use it too. But the base game is locked to 60
L I E S
They probably used a mod/cheat/hack (whatever bad names u wanna call it, ignoring the fact I said "mod") to make it run faster.
lol
@Never Trust Bob Works fine for my 1060 lol
@Toxifyy I actually use that.
The one guy who disliked this video bought one of those...
Haha they salty
And actually enjoyed it!🤣
And gave it 5 stars
Trusty Frying Pan lol
My mom bought me one for Christmas last year when I knew nothing about PCs. Good thing my stepdad replaced everything besides the motherboard, the cpu, and the power supply.
9 generations old cpu with some rgb lighting makes a gaming pc lol
Tutorial on how to make a ricer computer.
@@TheRealFobican
*puts an ASUS ROG sticker on a $40 dollar motherboard*
*slaps RTX sticker on a GT 210*
"yeah my pc can run games at 200+ fps"
The CPU ain't that bad it's the GPU that's awful
3200G is a ryzen 3000 - last gen not 9 gens old lol...its like saying my 3900X is 9 gens old - when it only came out last year haha
@@drummonkeystuffuk1875 plus the 3200g is a pretty decent apu on like $450 dollar gaming, it’s just the dedicated gpu in this that’s horseshit
These budget PC vids are much appreciated as I'm on a tight budget and cyber Monday is around the corner.
I am happy to help. :D Always be careful of those cheaper prebuilt.
look up tech yes city and lowspecgamer as well they can give you ideas as well.
@@sopcannon thanks, chief.
What’s your budget looking like friend?
@@ICCUWANSIUT I'd say between 400-500. I have a build right now that I've gotten help with but unfortunately prices went up over $80. I'm hoping cyber monday brings it down and I could even pick up some better parts for cheap.
The Ryzen 3 Vega integrated graphic is more powerful than this gt 710 lol
Haha!! It's pretty crazy.
i think the mainboard is that cheap it doesnt have video output to use amd gpu, so they went even cheaper on a dedicated steaming pile of video card hoping to catch the technically misinforned xd
@@DawidDoesTechStuff this system is an outright scam. Someone will see "Nvidia Geforce Graphics" and think it's an amazing gaming system. The only reason it's installed. Unless you need Nvenc or nvidia specific software. But the 710 specifically makes no sense.
@@Ivannbeats take it out of his pc and show him the improvement or link this video because he needs some help clearly
@@NotSandhorst another fun fact: this cpu was actually mine but his pc broke and now he has my pc just with that gpu, plus he doesnt want me to upgrade it or make it better in any way, specs: 4gb ddr4 2400mhz ram, r3 2200g, the crappy gpu, a crappy ssd, another ssd for some reason ,another ssd, a sound card which is worse than the mobo's, and a usb 2 mouse and keyboard and a vga monitor
sweet jesus, satan take your mustache
Hahaha!! You are stuck with it till the end of November.
@@DawidDoesTechStuff nope your stuck with it lol
linus drop tips yes
Unpopular opinion here , Dawid without a beard looks odd to me lol
I think that is a very popular opinion. XD
It’s weird but at the same time it’s different, always good to try new things right?
@@ICCUWANSIUT Haha!! Yeah, always have to find new things to never do again. :P
I agree
No no, that’s right
They literally added a laptop GPU in a desktop
@@rockytech6014 I'm at your doorstep
@@rockytech6014 cry 🤡🤡🤡
@@rockytech6014 PLEASE FORGIVE ME I DIDNT KNOW U WERE A SOLDIER!
@@rockytech6014 forgive me bushy brows!
@@rockytech6014 Rock Lee looking like an angry bird
I really enjoy learning the new tech, and I always build my own PC when possible.
Building a PC is such a fun process. Thanks for the comment. :)
why are yall so rich lmao yall always buy what yall want easily lol
@@felixesguerra2963 Not rich but I save money from my disability pension.
@@seansollars70 oh okie! sorry for misjudging you
@@felixesguerra2963not rich, just save up money over time. Building a pc soon that cost me about 2000$
You know some people has another kind of goal for november...
Haha!! How is your November going? XD
@@DawidDoesTechStuff pretty good, Im still in the run is the least I can say
@@DINOX86 Haha!! Congrats.
Dawid Does Tech Stuff lets stay strong brothers!
@@Adam-sw4iw together we shall win the challenge
This was the first PC I ever bought when I didn’t know about pc’s was so bad compared to playing on consoles I returned it, luckily I know about pc’s and have built my own, sad that companies basically scam people
kinda sad considering some parent out there bought this for their child as a gift... makes me even more furious
3:55 Dude, it's obviously the "eRGB" lighting that gives you that insane performance of this masterpiece smh!!1!1!!!111
Smh my head man
Buy that shit for the cpu and rgb strips
"Drop in an RX 570"...*stares proudly at the RX 570 in his newly built PC beast*. Best budget card by far atm!
RX 570 and GTX 1060 are two of the most widely used budget cards in the world. Insane longevity tbh.
This is my selection:
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor ($99.12 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock A320M-HDV R4.0 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: ADATA SU800 512 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($75.98 @ Amazon)
Video Card: ASRock Radeon RX 570 4 GB Phantom Gaming D Video Card ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Thermaltake Versa H18 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($42.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Thermaltake Smart 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $523.04
I put in a A320, but prefer the MSI B450M Bazooka for $30 more. I also could have picked a cheaper Power Supply but that's a definite no-no.
Awesome! That would perform way better than my setup. I agree with spending a bit more to get the B450 board. Thanks for the great comment. :D
@@DawidDoesTechStuff Thanks. I think that budget, game selection/application and proper design strategy are key. If an 3400G/2400G can play ones games at acceptable levels, start there. If not start with an R5-1600 and RX570. If the RX570 doesn't cut it, then go higher. Don't be afraid of the used market and get cheap RX 5x0's or a Vega 56. Why don't you do a video (series)? highlighting these concepts. This video is a great start!
Thermlake smart... Please, dont.
I've got one, the first year that's okay, after... That's the main problem of my PC : noisy as HELL
Dont take it ! That's just chineses products
That's too bad. I just bought a Thermaltake Smart ProRGB 650W 80+ Bronze for a new 2600x build 7 months ago. Draws were 7 year warranty and Japanese caps, and it was on sale. I always over spec power supplies so there running in the low/normal zone. It is whisper quiet though. If it was noisier than I imagined it should be, then I would have RMA'd it or got Amazon to replace it. Irritating noise is unacceptable as that could be mean there's other issues. Fortunately being in my late 50's I filter higher frequencies naturally. Be good to yourself and don't suffer the noise because it really shouldn't do that. Also, that's why I went modular, if the PSU goes bad, 4 screws, unplug the cables and off it goes. And the test of a good company is how stressful their RMA system. I've only had to RMA hard drives many years ago and Western Digital was excellent.
@@maxwellsmart3156 I'm also using a 2600x, but I'm 18. Trust me, I clearly hear that sound, it's like the fan isnt fixed to the psu...
And I cant even repair it by myself because the box has no screws
For 70€, that was clearly a bad deal... And it's a 730W for a consumption (consummation ? IDK the word sorry) of 500W ! 550 max in load + OC.
But warranty dosnt apply anymore and I'm waiting for january for upgrades my PC.
I'll go for a alphacool psu, love that brand for their cases, hope it'll be good for their psu too
My mom bought me this type of pre-built, only difference was it was DDR3 Ram, and an AMD FX 6300 with like a 300W powersuppy. I've since then upgraded severely but still I remember trying to play anything and just about failed.
don't blame your mom, that's all you have to think^^
@@serenity5892 I'm could never blame my mom for that lol, it's not like either of us knew any better at the time
At the time I didn’t know anything about pc so when my pc stopped porting on the screen I put my graphics card inside the over at like 150c and didn’t work so after like 2 months I fixed it it was a cpu problem
woohooo more content that i can enjoy, in a non romantic way i love this dude
Haha!! Thanks! :D
ncain11 your weird
@@Key-ru9bb indeed I am my dude we all have our quirks what makes us who we are now have a nice day
5:48 I can almost confirm this. When I first got into PC gaming, I was a noob so I went to Fry's to look at some prebuilts, and even the salesman told me that whenever they get a return, at least 80% of the time it's an iBuyPower system.
funny considering iBUYPOWER is banned from csgo esports scene for years now. Everything they make is a return XD
@@serenity5892 Wow. XD
Damn I remember shopping at Fry’s it’s been years now
@@BigBoss549 Same. I do all my shopping for PC hardware online now. ( _Especially_ now) But I do miss going to Fry's. Even though the only one in my area is way out in Bumfuck Egypt! xD Man did they have a selection though. I could spend hours in there just looking, not even buy anything and still walk out satisfied!
unnamed715 yes bro frys we’re big af and you wow you live in Egypt, that’s cool
When you are earlier than the self promoters
Nice profile pic
Haha!! That profile pic is pretty scary. :P
Dawid Does Tech Stuff thanks
What the heck, I found this "Gaming PC" just now and I was like "Why the heck is a GT 710 doing in a GAMING PC??" and then suddenly this pops up in my recommendations minutes later.
Seriously, what is that GT 710 doing there and why does the FX-6300 + GT710 variant cost $20 more (w/o discount) when the R3 3200G alone is 1.5-2 times better than the FX-6300 NOT TO MENTION the difference between the GT 710 and the RX 560?
What is iBUYPOWER smoking??
basically they put in the cheapest GPU they can find just so they can advertise it as having a dedicated graphics card. It's all to deceive and fool people who just don't know better while making the biggest profit possible.
It's not just gaming. It's ENTHUSIAST!
smoking hot greed liquified
Is it worse than rx550?
A Kid yes
Check out a danish Company called shark gaming.
They scam super hard with pricing.
Dawid, I have that case and trust me that things is a BEAST
Oh awesome!! Thanks for the feedback.
Dawid Does Tech Stuff that picture really makes me laugh my a$$ off (the SI one)
Yo I bough that one in black
@@nicon2097 wait you bought the bad pre-built ? if yes try to get a refund you unfortunatly wasted your money
@@goldytm2285
Pretty sure he was talking about the Fractal Design case and not the prebuilt.
1:53
Dawid the one on the left says 2x8 on it and clearly shows 2 sticks. not hating just correcting u :)
Gareth J The listing says 8GB so but clearly shows 2 sticks with (2x8GB) so I guess it’s a typo on the listing and Dawid didn’t notice lol
When I bought an ibuypower pc it said it came with dual channel ram but when I picked it up it only had one. Wasn’t a big deal to me because I immediately took it out and put 2 16 gig sticks in it. Other than that I’ve had 0 complaints it’s been an absolutely perfect prebuilt
*sips tea while playing on a good prebuilt system*
Dawid with no beard is scary
I’m glad I talked myself out of buying a prebuilt computer. Now some prebuilt computers are worth it, but everything I’ve seen seem either too much for the components in the price range I was looking at, or I just hated the way it looked. So I decided to just build my own. I got an Enthoo Luxe 2 (I refuse to call it a 719) and now I’m just waiting for Black Friday to pick up most of the components. Also I’ve been rocking a stash for 7 years now.
Off topic but I really enjoyed your interview with Tom (Moore's Law is Dead). I've been trying to place your accent for a while. I guessed Welsh, my bad.
I am glad you enjoyed the interview. It was really fun to do.
I get why you guessed Welsh, Dawid is even a Welsh name isnt it?
@@DawidDoesTechStuff Not sure but it seemed to be a weird enough way to spell David ;-) Lot's of Nordic influences in the Isles and the way you pronounce your name DAH-vid seems to rooted in Swedish/Norwegian. So your nickname is now Tech Ragnar.
Sounds South African to me
There is a problem with "getting a friend good at it to help", since if you need help, you can't tell if they're really good or they just think they're good.
Just leaving this here for myself.
0:17.
LOL I was about to say that mustache makes you look like you should be on some kind of list.
I'm sorry 😭
When I bought my first pc I didn’t understand graphics cards so I bought the gt 710😓
What graphics card do you have now?
@@jakewenhan3923 gtx 1650
@@nicholasdrennan7114nice
When I worked at Best Buy, I had a customer (parents and their kid) coming in saying they bought this or a system like this. Luckily the reason they were at Best Buy was because they returned that system and were looking for one that was more acceptable or rather, *capable* for gaming.
why was i recommended this, I’ve already watched this
Lmao. I actually have this pc and it runs perfectly fine. I run r6 at 140 FPS easily and csgo at 150+ with ease. I just bought some ram and it is fine
there should be a website that enthusiasts go on and charge people like 40 dollars instead of the 150 that most prebuilts put on top of their systems for building it and stuff to build people PC's. I know I'd be happy to charge that much for a PC build as I enjoy doing it and custom water cooling would be even more fun. There could be like a whole verification process with like a video chat to confirm that you actually can build a PC and you could become a verified seller (which you wouldn't need a degree for you would only have to pass that process). As the website they could take like a small cut of the fee not only for profit but also as money to like keep the servers running.
how do you people find custom water cooling fun, i'd be sweating bullets
1:52 that's the funniest thing I've seen all day.
I got a cyberpower GMA600 gamer Master and i love it! It can run 90 to 120 FPS in fortnite. It sometimes drops to 70 though. The most FPS i saw it went up to was 144 on fortnite. This is my first ever gaming PC and its a good starter PC. If you already had PCs and you want to get a Good running PC don't get a cyberpower PC. A cyberpower pc is a starter PC. I do want to upgrade my ryzen 3 to a ryzen 7 and i want to upgrade my graphics card to a 1060 since i got a 1030 but the pc is good. I recommend you to get it for a starter PC and i guess its also good cause i got a 144Hertz Sceptre gaming monitor..
I got something like this before I knew much about pc’s. Thanks for spreading the word about how bad they are.
Thanks Dawid, great video!
3:51 I lost it 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😅
This is why i took one day to learn about PC parts so that i dont fall into these stupid traps. If i ever buy a pre-build after this video which i doubt it.
Dawid without moustache looks like a secretly gay married bank accountant in 90's.
He was
I just HAD To Sub After Binging On your videos I Really Like Your Voice Its Calming
When you realize that this pc's gpu ismuch worse than the intergrated graphics from the cpu
Fusion that’s what the video says yes
@@Evexin commented before I saw the whole thing
I thought you said ps5 GPU
If you have pc knowledge but dont have the time to build one, using that knowledge you can determine which prebuilts are good for the price, I have the knowledge and managed in minutes to find a company that most of the time can be worth it, so if you are getting a prebuilt, I recommend taking the time anyway to get the knowledge of computers, plus, it helps you determine if your pc will run certain games, knowing your specs and understanding what they mean is very helpful if you are a budget gamer.
why did they put a D-GPU in a system with a APU that performece better XD
Cuz they didn’t check the performance of the d-gpu and the apu
@@driverpt1688 its more so they can say we have a dedicated gpu, but it wil cost only more because of that
PatjeDuhde ok fair enough
Extra video outs, probably.
Because that A320/whatever cheapshit chipset motherboard isn't going to have more than one video out (probably HDMI), the 710 would provide extra outs.
Then you set primary processing to the APU, and use the 710 as a pass through.
Sounds like a decent idea to me.
Because they want to rip people off
Viper memories are pretty good. I use them in my gaming rig and they run very good.
dear Gooood! Beardless David almost scared me.
Microcenter makes pretty good prebuilt machines. Noteably they use decent off-the-shelf bits, so their cheaper and business machines are quite extensible.
The dlm 21 case is fantastic. A really well-built solid case for the price
The build in the description was actually the very first build I did and it was because of this video with the exception that I added a GTX 1650
$100 in labor, OEM key, and initial Windows installation isn't a bad deal IMO. I spend a lot of time building a computer to make sure it looks good when it's done, and I like to think I'm worth it. It's another reason why independent builders don't make this a full time job because system builders are well established, buy in bulk, get wholesale deals from various companies, and have an assembly line of sorts to get things done faster.
That is a good point. I do agree that if the system was well built it would be more worth it. I guess I would only really be able to judge if that $100 is worth it after looking at the actual finished PC.
@@DawidDoesTechStuff Agree 100% with that. Computer builders such as ourselves are always critical of other builders. LOL
dude your a bit too honest lol. i love it. I keep seeing napoleon dynamite's bro with your accent threw the whole video...
Close your eyes and imagine he is Indian.
👌 I’m Indian
Built my first pc 4 years ago, and currently in the process of upgrading it. Will probably never buy a prefab again, unless a really good one comes at an insane discount.
1:52 aren't both of those 16gb? both say 2x8
little does he know that mustache is gonna be his signature beard
2:50 it says vr ready for the gt 710 1gig...
XDDD
Runs vrchat at 480p with 5 fps, tried with my gt610 overclocked till my laptop smelt like burnt laptop
I weirdly really miss other peoples beards when they shave them off.
I thought it was me.beast...
Haha!!
1:54 those are the same product bud, they just have different colors on the module.
They mis-labeled the grey kit as 8GB, when really it is TWO 8GB sticks.
Oof, Scattervolt claimed this to be a decent 500 budget prebuilt
it is decent if you use the integrated gpu instead of the gt 710
Yeah he definitely said to take out the gpu and this would be the absolute worst pc he would recommend. Don’t misquote.
Great advice! Stay away from pre builts even high end ones as there is always human error and some thing somewhere wont quite be connected so watch and learn from youtube as there is some great knowledge around to learn from as i did after buying 2 pre builts,after work i would sit and watch and take in and all has been great since,even troubleshooting any issues that i caused myself🤣building is easy its the problem solving when somethings not right that can be tricky but well worth it in the end
When you realise this is your pc:😞
Man go connect it your Mobo not GPU and remove the GPU and sell it on used market put more ram sell your psu and put better psu and maybe put Rx 570 or 580 you van
Bharat gives very good advise. :D
@@DawidDoesTechStuff thx man
@@bharatmadhok6773 it's ok I was pulling a joke
@@eoghan_2061 🤣 yeah I had my suspicions cz if anyone is a viewer of such a channel would be a viewer of similar channels and would know not buy shit like ths
At the 1:52 spot, if you read the description of the '8gb kit' it clearly says 8gb but then says (2x8gb) just like the RAM on the right.
The one guy who disliked the video accidentally pressed the dislike button instead of the like button
Haha!! That is very nice of you to say. :D
I think the reason why there is a Gt 710 inside is that they were afraid that a pc without a GPU might scare buyers without hardware knowledge off.
Me: Dad, I want a new gaming PC!
Dad: Okay son
Also Dad: *Buys me this crappy GT 710 PC*
Me: Am I a joke to you?
Atleast he buys you something, this is not even funny come on
Get a job and then buy a better PC, how bout that, spoiled brat?
@@axrye800 Dude that's not a true story, it's just a meme, stop taking everything seriously
@@axrye800 😂
The ad before this video was LITERALLY the same pc. Nonononono oh God hahahaha
Literally the 1% people who’s reading... May your parents Live More Than 100 years with Good health 🙏
Stfu and stop trying to get likes
1:19 really says VR ready you’re not deadass
I bought that HP pc and it’s pretty good. Only thing that kinda bottlenecks it is the 8GB of RAM. 2GB are used up by the graphics card. If anyone is wanting to buy it, buy another RAM stick as there’s 2 slots on the motherboard
Recently my friend asked me about a PC he had found on amazon was good and worth the price at his $600 price point. Having now built 2 PCs now, I was definitely the right choice in who to ask about that. It had a Ryzen 5 2600 (pretty okay for a budget system), but only had a GTX 650 in it. I explained to him that it was a big rip off and that the crap computer I had him using when he stopped by my place had had a GTX 760 and still didn't run great. I made 3 good lists of parts around his price point and left him with that. It goes to show that even people who are willing to get into PCs but aren't willing to watch videos on graphics card, performance, system building etc etc will face a tough time when presented with systems that amazon shows to them.
The ram kits costs the same because they're both actually 16GB, if you look they both say 2x8GB in brackets one is just labelled as 8GB (probably telling you what each stick has for some unknown reason) where the other is labelled the total of both
Lmao who would buy that:DD, btw I found your channel a week ago and it is very entertaining.
I recently bought my first gaming/streaming PC and the parts should come in a day. So rate it, I did a lot of research before buying it.
Ryzen 5 3600
MSI Gaming X GTX 1660ti
Asrock B450 Pro4
G.Skill RipjawsV 3200mhz (2x8gb) DDR4 CL16
Kingston A2000 M.2 Nvme 256gb
Seagate barracuda 1tb hdd
Corsair Carbide Spec 04 black/red case
be quiet! System power 9 - 600w CM, semi - modular.
That looks pretty good to me. I probably would try to temp you to reach for a 2060 2080 but I understand being on a budget. I don't know the reason for the 1660ti other than the budget. If it were me, I would save another 50 bucks and reach a little higher but that's the only thing I would look at changing. Thumbs up still.
That's really stupid. Amazon should Ban this type of sellers.nobody Who make that config should sell pc parts.
iBuyPower is notorious for having awful prebuilts
I bought a non used pc for 400€ cpu amd ryzen r3 1300x and a gtx980 8gb ram avg fps 145 max 297 and min 90 i saw fps drops sometimes but I just bought a new cpu (amd ryzen r7 2700x) and now there is no fps drops at all and much better perfomance
Ibuypower is that company that actually make console specs for over $750 and somehow their shipping is expensive as hell
use pcpartpicker.com to be able to shop around for best pricing at multiple dealers. its what i use to find deals. sometimes i go a bit overboard. lol.
Those are some ridiculous PC's... considering this time LAST YEAR i found a Lenovo with a 7th gen i-5 and an rx560 for just over $500...and for $600 i built a 2200g +rx580, barely having a clue what i was doing
If investing in dedicated graphics card recommend a Ryzen 5 1600 6 core 12 thread processor all day long over the Ryzen 3 2200g 4 core 4 thread. Some great deals around now on R5 1600.
Now I really love your content and I am now watching some of your old videos for fun. But my god you look so different without your beard it is almost ridiculous xD
Please never shape that off again
Haha!! I completely agree. I don't think my wife will ever allow it again. 😂
If the seller straight up installing the another sticks of ram but not the gt 710, then it can be a good budget gaming PC with the amd integrated graphics.
"Theese 16gb and 8gb kits cost the same for some reason"
*looks down*
*both of them are 16*
*visible confusion*
I use a 550 650 and 750 evga supply and they do the job. They are not the prettiest, but they are solid
Honestly, the worst part of the PC is that they bothered to include a graphics card at all. The iGPU on the 3200G is very competent, yet the GT710 is trash. In other words, people who forget to plug in the monitor to the graphics card and plug into the motherboard instead will have a better experience.
Also, the PSU you added to the list was... really bad. No 80+ certification, and group regulated.
Asrock b450 steel legend $79
Ryzen 5 2600 $117
Geil Evo x ii 16gb 3200 $69
Nitro rx 580 8gb $120 Ebay
Cm 550w bronze $49
120gb m.2 $19
Case $40
Under $550 beast
I build this pc and is amazing 1080p/1440p 60+ in most games in ultra/high thanks for the videos!!
I build my first gaming pc not long time ago for ~600$, it contains:
Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1660 6gb
Intel i5-9400f
DDR4 2x8gb 2666MHz ram
Mother board GIGABYTE GA-H110M-S2PV
Power supply COOLERMASTER MWE V2 550W
, how fine is it?
years (and i mean years) ago i bought a pre-built pc from a local home based seller. He convinced me that i had bought a 500mb (yes mb) hard drive - which was a lot when windows 95 was around :) and infact he had installed hard drive compression software on it with a 4x ration so infact my harddrive was only 128mb.
Scammer everywhere all trying to steal a buck from an honest person..
I have one even worse than this its the GUA520 by cyber power gaming, I got it for like 700$ about a good 5 or 6 years ago, and they try to keep the same price on an fx-4300 its hilarious, honestly I just want to sell it for like 250 it still works just fine, has windows 10 and I even upgraded the GPU to an rx460 I'm oretty sure it was a gt730 before hand
I am Building my 1st pc soon and i asked someone i know to be present for only 1 thing.
Making sure i use enough thermal paste.
I have been watching and gathering enough Intel to feel confident enough that i can build it 😀.
The biggest offense would be using a hybrid drive. That shit is awful. That’s basically a slap to a gamers face lmao
Never seen you without a beard. 😂😂😂
Got a ryzen 5 5600x in a prebuilt and a gt 710 2Gb BUT i picked the gt 710 cuz i am waiting for the 3080 to get in stock the other parts are 750 watt psu, dual channel 16 gig ram and b550
This exact computer is being sold on multiple different places including Best Buy, Office Depot, Walmart, Amazon, etc. The reviews on all of these websites are overwhelmingly positive and suspiciously, most of the reviewers are not verified buyers. I believe that iBuyPower is artificially rating their products with positive reviews.
For a gaming pc it's bad, for other purposes since it has two gpus there is one advantage you got. You can run two OSes at the same time with a small margin of resources that this comes with.