Versus Strikezone: Plo Koon Vs. Sora Bulq (The Fanatical Taskmasters)
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- Опубликовано: 24 июн 2018
- When analyzing specific characters, unless I directly reference something else, I am effectively judging the sources in which a specific character appears in a vacuum. Accordingly, I am willing to ignore larger continuity snarls as long as the sources relating to the character in question remain consistent with one another. In the case of Asajj Ventress and General Grievous, the radical differences in their portrayals between the classic Expanded Universe and Star Wars: The Clone Wars make the two sources completely incompatible. In the case of Plo Koon, his appearances in TCW and its tie-ins not only remain generally consistent with the EU at large, but are in fact beneficial, helping to flesh out his character and his capabilities. The reason for this was because Koon is the favorite character of Showrunner Dave Filoni, so effort was put into doing him right, for a change. Though I do find myself wondering, if Plo Koon is Filoni's favorite character, where's the Force Lightning?
Am I cherrypicking? Yes, yes I am.
My analysis of Plo Koon will pull from the following sources:
His appearances in all three entries of the Star Wars prequel trilogy and their tie-in visual dictionaries. The following issues and arcs from the Star Wars - Republic comic series: Jedi Council - Act Of War, Emmissaries To Malastare, The Stark Hyperspace War, and Dreadnaughts Of Rendili. The Power Of The Jedi sourcebook. The following episodes from Star Wars: The Clone Wars: The season one Malevolence trilogy, Season Two's Lethal Trackdown, Season Three's Padawan Lost, and Season Four's Nomad Droids. Basically, the episodes that actually depict Plo Koon in combat. The Clone Wars comic arcs In Service To The Republic and The Sith Hunters. The Clone Wars campaign guide. The Clone Wars: Adventures MMO minigame, Lightsaber Duels. And background details from the following novels: Darth Maul: Shadow Hunter, The Force Unleashed, and Fate Of The Jedi: Outcast.
My analysis of Sora Bulq will draw from his appearances in the Star Wars: Republic comic series, specifically the Trackdown and Seige Of Saluecami arcs, the one-shots Jedi: Mace Windu and Jedi: Count Dooku, and his now defunct databank entry on StarWars.com. My analysis for both will pull from The New Essential Guide To Alien Species, The New Essential Guide To Chronology, and The Essential Guide To The Force.
So with all of that out of the way, allow me to present Plo Koon Vs. Sora Bulq, The Fanatical Taskmasters.
[03:16], [20:24] - The New Essential Guide to Alien Species - Kel Dor, Pg 96-97
[04:45], [20:20] - Jedi Academy Training Manual - Chapter IV: Affiliated Programs - Baran Do Sages, Pg 74-75
[05:59], [07:04], [08:27] - The New Essential Guide to Alien Species - Weequay, Pg 176-177
[10:09] - Star Wars: Lightsabers - Plo Koon, Pg 22-23
[10:24] - The Force Unleashed (novelization) - Part 1: Imperial - Chapter 6
[10:28] - The Clone Wars Campaign Guide - Chapter IX: The Jedi - Plo Koon, Pg 133
[10:28] - The Clone Wars Adventures (Onlline MMO)
[13:47] - Databank: Bulq, Sora
[14:04], [23:07] - Jedi Vs. Sith: The Essential Guide to the Force - Part 2: The Jedi - Lightsabers: Vaapad, Pg 112-113
[17:53], [25:01] - The Jedi Path - Part IV: Jedi Knight - Advanced Lightsaber Techniques - Form VII Lightsaber Combat: Juyo, Pg 135-136
[20:11], [21:31] - Power of the Jedi Sourcebook - Chapter 6: Jedi Traditions - The Jedi Council - Plo Koon, Jedi Master, Pg 113-114
[20:15], [20:29] - Fate of the Jedi: Outcast - Chapter Fifteen
[20:53] - Jedi Vs. Sith: The Essential Guide to the Force - Part 2: The Jedi - Force-Sensitive Abilities - Force Lightning, Pg 82, 83
[23:10] - Revenge of the Sith (novelization] - Part Three: Apocalypse - Chapter 17: The Face of the Dark
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I think Ahsoka should’ve been Plo Koon’s padawan instead of Anakin.
I think so too.
YES! I'm not the only one! I believe that she would have become a much better Jedi if she was Plo Koon's Padawan.
I agree with you. Plo Koon would be the perfect jedi master for her. I think that Obi Wan would be her master, if Qui Gon Jinn had survived in episode I. Because Qui Gon would undoubtedly train Anakin.
And TCW could've probably tied into the EU just fine. *Thanks Filoni, you dickface!*
100% agree. From what I remember when the clone wars was first announced it was supposed to focus more on other characters and less on Anakin’s story. Not sure what happened but we ended up with the reverse. Ahsoka would have been better as Plo Koon’s Padawan, thus leaving the original clone wars timeline intact and still enhancing it by showing the war from her point of view. Most of TCW could fit in with the old clone wars timeline.
I always preferred Plo Koon using a yellow lightsaber as it was a nice change of pace from use of the normal blue n green lightsabers similar to Mace Windu using a purple lightsaber
Lucien Draay vs Qui-Gon-Jin: The Jedi Fanatic VS The Jedi Maverick
Good match. I'm leaning Jinn but it's close.
Random thought: before TPM Plo's lightsaber blade was orange but around the time of Jedi Power Battles it is yellow. A year before TPM (33 BBY) a fellow member of the jedi Council and friend, Micah Giiett was killed in battle. One of Giiett's lightsabers was recovered and returned to the Jedi Temple. Plo Koon took over the training of Giiett's Padawan Bultar Swan. Could Plo Koon have also removed his own orange crystal and replaced it with the yellow crystal of Micah Giiett's lightsaber?
An interesting matchup, thank you, though I suspect Bulq will win simply because he hasn't yet.
Also, I really like that you showed off your sources. It really demonstrates how much effort you put into this stuff.
Mikael Makarewicz he had won one match up
Bulq is better than Plo in all areas so it’s a safe bet.
I think Filoni haven't used Electric Judgement in tcw because of George's influence
It does raise alot of questions without a dedicated episode or two
@@eatingpancakesrightnow2786 I don't think it would have mattered considering how TCW went through its routes and there wasn't a time where plo koon would actually need it
Did Lucas not like electric judgment
Very nice! I'm ultra excited for the post mortem analyses of these characters. 👍👏
I love these videos so much, I always get excited when I see them.
im pretty okay with this outcome but Electric Judgement is noted to be significantly less powerful than sith lightning so i dont know if that would totally be a weakness for Sora Bulq
It wouldn't be.
It is however mastered electric judgement is considered to be lethal and in a battle to the death it’s likely that it would come into play around the mid-late fight, also dooku’s lightning was lethal at its full potency putting plo koons electric judgement on a compatible level not on par mind you because dooku can likely send his opponents flying with it but the effect would be similar
And Koon is not on Count Dooku's Force Power Level.
I love your videos, I always learn more about star wars from every video
Your videos bring immense pleasure, always.
Jaina Solo vs Mace Windu battle of the jaded jedi
Phoenix Exalt Mace shit stomps
Phoenix Exalt
Caedus was brutally injured, he also got smashed by Luke and hasn’t done really anything worthy of note. Dooku > Jacen tbh.
Pretty much everything you said is irrelevant as the only weapons they’ll actually be using are lightsabers. Mace has many sources putting him slightly below or above Dooku, who’s pure duelling feats FAR outweigh Jaina’s.
What you're saying may be valid but it's all moot because of the way Mace was set up. Essentially anyone with darkness in them who can't suppress it (Jaina can't like Dooku or Yoda) would be beaten by Windu. He can channel the energy/power from the opposing duelist, essentially meaning he's at their level to begin with. Add on top of that his power and he wins every time. This is perhaps a problem with writing and overall consistency, but in-universe explanations + scenarios almost make Mace invincible.
I'm sure you've heard all the bla bla bla about how great Vaapad is a million times so I won't bother, but this battle is pointless. 1. Mace channels Jaina's anger (If he can't he can just channel his own) making him her equal. 2. Mace's power and skill stacked on top of that equaliser, = certain victories.
Account 2 the problem is that jaina no longer fights with her anger if you read her fights especially in fate of the jedi which is her prime she fights cold she becomes a chaotic element on the battlefield yes but that is because of her fighting style not her emotions in her mind she is calm and serene for the entire fight against the sith and it was caedus himself who noticed this, " Caedus streched out with the force searching for the familiar fiery temper and always applied to late the urge to control it all, he found he could not sense those feelings anywhere " -Legacy of the Force Revelation. Jaina was not shut down in the force at this time and in fact was quite open at the moment and this search coincides with her mentally training herself with bevin to not use anger or hatred but to simply lose herself to the fight much in the vein of kit fisto. Now for your point on that mace could use his own anger the first problem is that mace is almost never shown using his anger anywhere love yes anger no so step one would be him to get angry and jaina isnt psychological fighter so she couldnt do that to mace but even if he was angry and drawing on his anger that would stop the super conducting loop. When a user of vaapad starts falling to the datk side and uses his anger you get sora bulq who cannot use vaapad with any real effectiveness because the wjole point of vaapad is to draw in an OPPONENT'S anger and hatred not let it touch you and then givw it back to the enemy now to NJ use vaapad you also need love mace worked around that by loveing the republic but jaina is not throwing out hatred and anger while she fights she is loving the fight sure but she does not hate nor does she draw on her anger not once during the entire battle in the temple did she ever draw on her anger even though especially at the end she had every right to in order to delay Abeloth but she didnt instead facing what she thought was her death with the calm stoic mentality of the jedi master she was. Now im not denying that jaina didnt have her anger issues for a long time but she moved past them and matured by the time of FOTJ which is a year before Crucible which would be where we must use her as it is closest to her prime. ( since of course multiple novels that would have shown us her prime have been canceled due to K-cannons meddling)
Yes but the point you're missing is, Windu has never needed to draw on his own anger because he defeats all his opponents with skill, power or channeling their fury. He's duelled, Bulq, Vos, Ventress, Palpatine, etc. and not once was he required to do anything particularly insane.
Mace doesn't draw on his own anger because he has never needed to, he's always beaten the opponent by channeling their rage. Why you think Jaina is any different to the rest of the group is beyond me. She doesn't need to be a psychotic darksider for him to get the power he needs, she isn't Sidious. Look This isn't a concession, but I don't have a particular interest in either character and rather dislike Jaina so I hope you can find someone interested in them both to debate against because you seem to be passionate about them.
I still hold true to those points but just can't be bothered giving responses to a topic I'm not enjoying. My apologies, have a good day/night.
Great video! I would love to see a matchup with the dark jedi Sarris.
Wow!! I've been wanting to see this for ages!
Hey man great video nice to see plo Koon don’t think he is shown enough
But one match up I’ve always wanted to see if Obi wan vs Mace Windu
I didn't even see this on the homepage! This was a good match.
Kasim vs Corran Horn battle of the blade masters
I'm inclined to say Corran personally though it's a good fight
I greatly enjoyed this video, as it was a matchup that, going in, I didn't know who would win. There are solid arguments for Bulq's victory, namely his weapon set and more frequent use of his force powers. Though, in the future, I'd say that you don't always need a title. This matchup is interesting for the ways that Bulq and Koon interact as combatants, not their differences as characters.
If you don't mind, I'd like to make a request for a future short. Vodo Siosk Bass Vs Oppo Rancisis, two elderly Jedi with bizzare alien physiologies.
Ooh, Rancisis vs Bass is an awesome idea. Alien physiology, unorthodox weapon/combat style, unconventional/support-oriented light side Force powers. Makes a ton of sense to compare them.
Eh... sort of. That was a team battle that included Quinlan Vos and Cay Qel-Droma, so it'd be interesting to see how that would play out one on one.
Could it be possible for Versus or at least " How powerful was Light Side Sora Bulq " type of video ?
Mentions of his skills and abilities already got my curiosity up .
If you want an april fools matchup idea may i present Mandar Zuma vs. Jocasta Nu battle of the librarians
+Phoneix Exalt Not bad. But it doesn't compare to one of the greatest battle of memes I have.
(EU) Admiral Ackbar vs Kenobi+highground
+Phoenix Exalt First up, do we consider regular jarjar true memetic or meme trash (like Yamcha)? If jarjar is trash then Coleman curbstomps uses his mighty 360 vision to scout for a rock that Jar jar trips on and dies.
If jar jar is proper memetic then we have a more balanced match. I say Jar Jar because he is the key (according to Lucas) granting him divine levels of plot armor, the one true weakness of Coleman Trebor (as he lacks the divine grace of Lucas due to not being as profitable as Jango). So Jar Jar should be capable of taking this. But Darth Jar Jar curbstomps the crap of Trebor.
Meme fights, huh?
1) Liam the Padawan vs Vitiate the 1000 year old man
But here's the catch, they're both unarmed and they start right in front of one another. 50/50 on this one.
2) Coleman Trebor vs a pissed off Master because he cut off his apprentice's head instead of braid in the Knighting Ceremony that one day Yoda was on holiday
Eh.
3) Coleman Trebor vs suicidal Gira
Both probably die tbh.
4) Kathleen Kennedy vs Morag "Ha ha, I am so evil!" the Witch
I have not found any evidence to disprove the fact that they are indeed the same person.
5) Rian Johnson's head vs a 1° hill leading into the neverending void
You can't Kamikaze gravity!
6) Tremayne and/or Jerec vs every new Canon Inquisitor all at once
The rest of these are jokes compared to this one.
7) Dave Filoni vs the guy who forgot to remove the Jedi saying there are Iriaz all over the place in that murder quest on Dantooine in KotOR even though they weren't included in the final release
8) Lurdo vs Karl Marx
Yes, he's in Star Wars. starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Force_Fiction
9) Jar Jar Binks vs the Ewok who tried to join Fett Club
10) Jar Jar Binks vs Jango Fett over the 7th rule of Fett Club
11) Admiral Ackbar vs Forces of Destiny Anakin
Why did I put myself through watching that...
For reference: static2.srcdn.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Ahsoka-and-Anakin-in-Star-Wars-Forces-of-Destiny.jpg
Phoenix Exalt jar jar Binks vs Exar Kun and Binks wins...an April fools episode
@@KumaoftheForest idea was already used (not exactly but close enough), go watch Antoine Bandele's Palpatine vs. Jar Jar Binks
General Grievous in classic EU: Defeated 5 Jedi at once including 2 council masters, 1 master, and an acclaimed Jedi Knight
General Grievous in TCW (Disney Cannon): Did not kill a 14 year old Padawan or even manage to convincingly defeat her
dude, get off your fucking high horse about EU. It's not perfect either.
John Zhou No one said it was.
Also was trained by the MASTER of Makashi, lost a hand to a Shii-Cho master
This was a great video!
Do you by any chance have a list of all prequel-rebels era Jedi/sith ranked if they all fought one on one, in a neutral ground w/ saber and force and other talents in play?
Jesus i apsolutly adore you guys
I think the no lightning is because in the canon, Force lightning is considered a darkside power. In legends it can be used without the darkside through focused training and the lightning used by Plo Koon, was a unique lightside variant as well.
Scout vs Zayne Carrik the battle of the unique
Zayne Carrik stomps. Probability manipulation is some top tier hax.
Things Zayne has over Scout: Probability manipulation basically making him unkillable
Things Scout has over Zayne: Everything else but it doesn't fucking matter
Hello......Good to hear from you again.
Jay Bell it’s been 2 weeks. Lol
personally I think the only thing preventing Plo Koon's depiction in the 3d clone wars from being perfect is the lack of electric judgement had Plo Koon used that ability at some point then it would have been fantastic
Hey I was wondering if you would ever do a versus video containing Darth Nihilus?
would you consider doing a anakin Skywalker and obi wan vs Darths bane and zanna
Latest list of matchup ideas:
Luke Skywalker (ROTJ) vs Leia Organa Solo (Legends)
Obi-Wan Kenobi & Anakin Skywalker (ROTS) vs Corran Horn & Kyp Durron
Darth Caedus OR Darth Krayt vs Sarasu Taalon
Kyle Katarn vs Darth Malak
Shaak Ti vs Satele Shan
Desann vs Asajj Ventress
Saba Sebatyne vs Darth Wyrlokk III
Aayla Secura vs Ben Skywalker
Warb Null vs Oppo Rancisis
Darth Bane & Darth Zannah vs Ulic Qel-Droma & Nomi Sunrider
Exal Kressh vs Darth Talon
Inquisitor Jerec vs Lumiya
Sylvar vs K'kruhk
Darth Wredd vs Bultar Swan
Darth Malgus vs Kar Vastor OR General Grievous
Githany vs Haazen
Ven Zallow vs Eeth Koth
Volfe Karkko vs Any'a Kuro
Depa Billaba vs Senya Tirall
Rahm Kota vs Quinlan Vos
Tholme vs Vindican
Darth Nihl vs Kao Cen Durach
Joruus C'baoth vs Naga Sadow (Force only)
Prince Arcann & Vaylin vs Cade Skywalker & Celeste Morne
Count Dooku OR Anakin Skywalker vs Jaina Solo-Fel
Lucien Draay vs Wolf Sazen
Shado Vao vs A'sharrad Hett
Xanatos vs Komari Vosa OR Aurra Sing (Legends)
Also how powerful were Ventress, Ahsoka and Quin Lain Voss/who could they beat?
Nice editing around 19:20 :)
Darth Malgus vs Shaak Ti
Saleucami System good idea!
Malgus. He's the exact type of person to take out Ti.
Do you want her to die that fast?
Danmaru San What?
TheNuisanceBird, look at the jedi tempel and the jedi Malgus slaughtered in the decived trailer. Malgus slaughtered notable masters like Ven Zallow and Cao Cen Darach and if I'm correct he was able to kill 2 jedi after Satele smashed him into a hill hard enough to blow it up. Which means he was more dead then alive. You can call me crazy, but from my opinion Malgus is basicly the Vader of his time. He is THE war hero of the sith empire. Shaak Ti has no chance.
Way cool! Another nicely done Versus vid.
However, I feel that once again, Sora Bulq is being underrated due to a lack of complete analysis. He has an entry in the sourcebook, _Geonosis and the Outer Rim Worlds,_ which reveals something about his powers that has drastically elevated my estimation of him. (Look up pages 129-30.)
Fortunately, our old friend Matt Chapman plans to do another Versus video involving Bulq. I've been giving him all the relevant points of analysis via email, and he seems to appreciate any form of help he can get. Looking forward to it. What about you, dude?
DarthWill3 still no Sharad Hett vs?
Not yet.
New Jedi Order matches please
While doing a breakdown of the martial abilities for Asajj Ventress, I began to wonder whether or not she learned anything of Vaapad from Sora Bulq. While not an outright user of Form VII, could she have at least learned some of the basics?
Given their sparse numbers when compared with the Jedi, surely it would make sense to give the Dark Acolytes any advantage over their enemy as much as possible. While Count Dooku instilled the duelling centric Makashi in his Acolytes, Sora Bulq could have instructed them in Vaapad knowing that only three Jedi know it fully: and only one would pose a threat to them, Mace Windu. And, like Kas’im, would Sora have taught them just enough to still have an advantage over them should any of the acolytes go rogue?
Great video! Would you ever consider putting stars wars up against characters from other sources *video game characters, characters in novels, comics,etc* and if you have my mistake hah
Jensaarai1 What about Fal 'Chavamee from Halo Legends? He can be a challenge for a Jedi.
Oh cool to hear!
Wish Plo Koon could have been in tcw a lot more.
Hi Jensaarai1.
I have a request, I have noticed that you use or bulk quite often and when you do use the dark side crazy animalistic iteration who in my personal opinion can no longer win a fight for love nor money,
He may still have great skill but as you have pointed out he falls into animalistic Furious rages that leaving wide open for less skilled opponents to take advantage of.
My request is that you use or bulk pre dark side, before his decline or around the time he met with Mace Windu and the other Jedi dissidents, as I feel with a calm state of mind and his level of skill is one of the most prestigious swordsman in the whole temple I feel he would be a much more fitting match for most of the opponent's that he has already faced or could face and future.
I like certain aspects of this character and feel now even though he is still interesting he has still become one dimensional. I was hoping that eventually he could win one of your vs rounds with someone at least as I think the pre DarkSide Sora bulk would outclass the dark side animalistic rage filled frenzied pawn that he became.
Maybe a Sora Bulq vs Sora Bulq,
If you would be able to make either of these happen it would be incredible.
A question for Jensaarai: Are you aware that there is a character sheet for Sora Bulq in the Geonosis and the Outer Rim Worlds sourcebook?
I do have a question for you, how much stock do you put in the RPG character sheets?
+Jensarrai1 Honestly, this matchup does not really interest me that much. Plo Koon is great and all but I don't find Bulq that intriguing as an opponent for Plo Koon. That being said, your ability to make your arguments concise has improved and your production is still as great as ever.
Physicality: I don't know what makes you consider Plo stronger than Bulq. Shouldn't Bulq's youth afford him superior strength? Also, while Bulq lacks composure that doesn't mean he's Exar Kun glass cannon who throws a fit when he gets hit. Hes a berserker. A crazy angry beast paired with natural superhuman toughness.
Dueling: Bulq as a duelist always intrigued me. He couldn't mentally master, but he was able to master the physical technique. His style is essentially a randomized mixture of all 7 classical forms+physical technique of Vaapad executed with the mentality of a Juyo berserker making Bulq a tier 3 functioning swordsmen but with tier 1 skill. Darth Bane said something like, "remember you are a Sith, not an animal" and Bulq is an animal (though extremely skilled). The only issue I have with your verdict is addressing that Bulq's developed skill is superior to Plo Koon and the possibility of Bulq bulldozing through Koon's defense. Ventress has dexterity, Savage has strength. Bulq might not have either of these traits to their level, but he has a mixture of both strength and dexterity+superior skill. While Koon's style is more balanced and backed by greater tactical prowess, his conservativeness can be a problem against Bulq's all out rushdown assault.
Force abilities: Plo Koon's training background is something that caught my interest when I first read about him. Loved the idea of Jedi or Sith training under different force organizations allowing for unique abilities and development. Bulq's inadequate sense abilities I feel are being sold a tad short though (not that it matters in the verdict). Yes he couldn't track Tholme after Tholme made his escape, but Bulq found Tholme the first time and the only other person who could find the Spymaster was Vos (Tholme's former apprentice). Bulq using Azati master assains to me does not mean a lack of self confidence. But instead, thoroughness and proper planning (as ridiculous as that sounds for someone like Bulq). Oppo is one of the greatest telepaths whose sense abilities are in the top tier of the Jedi Council and could contact all the other Jedi near by for aid at the first sight of trouble. So Bulq used the Anzati to give him a margin of error to work with. No complaints about your verdict on their force abilities because I have the same thoughts but just wanted to give credit where its due.
Final Verdict: I agree that Plo Koon takes majority in this match but I think its primarily due to Koon's superior tactical abilities and broader variety of force abilities. Looking forward to the Post Mortem and your analysis was extremely on point.
I have an idea for a vs matchup that Ive had some difficulty with:
Admiral Ackbar (prime EU version) vs Kenobi with highground
Sup dude, since I've just watched half of the video, I need to ask you something. Do you consider Exar Kun the most powerful or the most greatest Sith Lords in star wars?
Have you heard about our Lord and Saviour, Exar Kun?
+TheKunLineage94 I don't consider Kun the most powerful, but hes somewhere between #4-6 to me.
SWLoreNerd55 - As a fellow Kun enthusiast, I will say he's easily Top 3. DE Palpatine vs Kun is debatable, and if you count Valkorion as a Sith, those two might be above him. I'd say he beats Sidious and loses to Valk though.
PS Stop making true Kunites look bad with ridiculous comments
+Account 2 As a fellow Kun fan, I sadly have to disagree. Krayt can take majority over Kun...in an asspull.
Who would have been grand master if yoda and windu died on geonosis ? Mundi, plo or piel? I've always wondered this.
I would personally choose Plo Koon
IDEA: Jedi Sentinel vs Emperial Royal Guard. Sadly the best example of the Royal guards actually fighting was in TLJ, but thankfully there's plenty of Legends material covering them too. Temple Guards were probably trained in Form 6 to accommodate all their other force and espionage training, so I wonder how they're abilities would stack up against the Redguard's?
We need something with Antinis Tremayne.
Who is the female sith next to the mon cal (Vebb?) I like her look.
Feenix The red-haired girl? She’s not an existing character. That image was art made by a guy named Kerembeyit for the Star Wars Galaxies trading card game. Here is the image, courtesy of Kerembeyit:
www.deviantart.com/kerembeyit/art/Falling-Avalanche-206880852
Cool. This is one of the things about star wars that I love - the fan community is so creative. Cheers for the image.
can you use Quinlan Vos in vs videos
What about Jedi Power Battles?
After this matchup, I'm curious about Plo Koon vs Malak now. Malak has the same offensive style like Bulq, but his force powers and tactics would make him a lot tougher of an opponent.
I'd personally place my chips on Malak
Agree with the verdict. I’m planning to use Plo Koon in a versus video soon so this can be a good source for research. Can you check out and vid me some tips on my versus videos
Maybe Plo Koon vs Darth Nihl
Dang I knew hes popular and all, but I did not realize Koon was in half this much stuff.
I’d love to see Qui-Gon Jinn vs Rahm Kota. Their fighting styles and methodology are quite similar, and I go back and forth on this match up.
I put my money on Kota. His fighting style is more versatile and concidering that he ripped appard the tower in which he fought Galen Marek with his force abilites, he is possibly the stronger force wielder. Qui Gon Jinn was brought to the jedi order like most others: as an infant. And he spend his entire life in the order. Kota was a child soldier and when he reached the age of 18 he was allready a formidable warrior and leader. And don't forget this: When Kota fought in the arena of Cato Neimoidia he fought a krayt dragon, Corellian razor hounds, Corellian slice hounds, an acklay, a Feeorin gladiator, and stormtroopers. Qui Gon on the other hand learned in relative safety and fought in at least 3 battles (stark hyperspace war, and The Yinchorri Uprising and the battle for Naboo), while Kota's Life was war.
Lightsaber skills: Qui Gon Jinn mastered Ataru. And even if he overcame most of its weaknesses it is still only one fighting style. Kota's arsenal includes Shii Cho, Shien and Juyo. Darth Maul proved how effective Juyo worked against Qui Gon Jinn.
Since Kota is the more experienced fighter, and perhaps the more powerfull force wielder, Master of multiple styles and posesses a toughness which could rival Obi Wan Kenobi's I don't think that Qui Gon would have much of a chance.
Jinn is the superior duelist but Kota is good enough to contend and Kota is a superior force wielder at least when it comes to combat. That should shift it in his favour
could you do komari vosa vs xanatos?
Hey Jensaarai what is your opinion on the Expanded Universe haters?
Purge the Heretics
lol. yeah! Screw the EU haters.
If they ever try to lure us into a room full of them using leaked copies of Escape from Dagu or something, bring a fuckton of reinforcements. Vader pulled that one off.
Exar Kun and his Brotherhood of the Sith versus Count Dooku and his Dark Acolytes?
Kun without a doubt
Do you think you could put the shadow academy master brakkis in a match
Yes! Brakkis should be used in a matchup! But who should he go up against?
Ironinquisitor you got any suggestions?
Maybe Brakkis vs Sarris?
Ironinquisitor I like that idea
+Ironinquisitor Lord Daimon maybe? Battle of the dark side pretty boys.
Plo Koon would win with superior saber techniques and better force powers and usage plus better at keeping his head in the game yeah.
Seasee Tinn vs Agen Kolar vs Kit Fisto,
Yaddle vs yarael poof
Evan piel vs kit fisto
Shaak ti vs ki-adi-mundi
Plo Koon vs Oppo Rancisis
Luminara unduli vs Aayla Secura
Jensaarai1 I have a star wars versus series if your follow Council masters haven't done this match up; My watch up is Grand Jedi Master of the New Jedi Order Luke Skywalker vs The order ruining Rule of 1 sith Lord: Darth Krayt. Please use star wars Legends Material.
Phoenix Exalt that Sarcasm if so not very funny. I'm a Hardcore star wars fan and I have come to hate with such a burning passion the way Lucasfilm and Disney has ruined star wars with their SJW and Identify Politics agendas.
Sci-Fi SithDan believe me i know it sucks but i do love making fun of it because as i do own a physical copy of all expanded universe materials that are purchasable by a person played the games watched the shows and watched the council forcecast group from day one and also am someone who gave up on Disney cannon rhe moment the credits rolled in the last jedi i will always like to make fun of the new cannon because it simply is no longer star wars to me, it could have been i was willing to give it a chance and i like a few bits and pieces (lost stars and tarkin novels being perfect examples) but yes i understand your anger and fury as it has merit and i feel the same way
Phoenix Exalt Luke wins solidly, but Krayt puts up a serious fight.
It's been a very long time where have you been?
If you missed it he had another video two weeks ago :)
Sarin 031 oh thanks I didn't get the notification
Jensaarai1 please do brakkis verse Damian
I have a interesting one that may require some thinking but you do the best with the ones were you analyze and pieve together the lore with showings even with small amounts of content. Qu rahn vs jolee bindo both older jedi one heavily in the light one gray or if youd preffer knowing your love of qui-gon jinn you could do jolee bindo vs qui-gon jinn both very much grey jedi. jolee being older but far better in the use of the force due to not using the living force as much but still holds reverence for it but just didnt like the hypocrisy of the jedi and you have jinn that tolerated the jedi council and the code because he wanted to do what was right but for the force and for the reverence held for it not the jedi but is the better swordsman and him using his specialized ataru vs jolee's more force oriented niman i belive would be a interesting match up
Boring combatant selection, but quite interesting match!
I suspected Plo to come out victorious but it was still an exciting surprise. He has such a balanced skillset and keen mental composure, that he is never to be underestimated.
I've always viewed Bulq to be a surprisingly and painfully blunt top melee specialist. I think his pure melee style is held back by using two blades.
Ultimately I do not see Kel-Dor as significantly less durable than Weequay. And there were a few missing elements left out of this analysis. A few that come to my mind now are:
- Plo has extensive knowledge of unarmed combat.
- Kel-Dor though having fists perfectly capable of martial arts, their fingers are nimble. This puts a toll on grappling and hilt gripping.
- Plo having force amplifying claws on his middle fingers. Losing them is roughly almost as much of a tactical detriment as his mask.
- Bulq had the opportunity to study more dark side melee techniques more intimately than just how to counter them. This also means he is user of the dark moves while knowing how light siders counter them.
Please do Shaak Ti or Plo Koon vs ROTS Anakin.
Vincent Escolano both would beat Anakin after a long fight.
Vincent Escolano both are some of the best on the council. Would make for a great match up.
ROTS Anakin takes a clean majority against either.
+wristofkings Agree on Plo Koon disagree on Shaak Ti (though I'm currently split on that).
I’d say Ti edges against Anakin, but Anakin edges on Koon
Revan needs more exposure in these matchups, as do guys like Ulic and Nomi.
There's more to go off of than the book though... While I agree with Jen overall about the old EU being 'real Star Wars,' he can be a bit puritanical. The book is bad but I don't really get what that has to do with examining Revan's combative performances.
Account 2 He also doesn't want to use Revan because of his toxic fanboys (which I don't blame him)
Ki Adi Sandwich A Revan fanboy once sent me a death threat just because I said Dooku and Vader would beat him in a pure saber duel
i think reven beats vadeer simply because of his more diversified aproach but thats just me
I agree. But that's not to say Revan fanboys aren't bad, because they are. Almost as bad as Starkiller and Vader apologists...
Ulic vs Bane. Anyone have any opinions?
Fairly certain win for Bane--Ulic is a comparable swordsman (he was holding off a seasoned Jedi Knight with minimal effort *without* the Force) but has demonstrated none of Bane's proficiency with combative Force powers. Bane and Zannah vs. Ulic and Nomi definitely has my interest though.
wristofkings that's not the only case of a none force wielder taking on a Jedi. There was one who even fought Anakin on a rainy planet I forget both their names. I forget his name. Not that I disagree with you.
Only major non-Force sensitive opponent I can remember for Anakin was Durge. He never met Grievous, the Fetts, etc. I'm sure there were others but I can't recall off the top of my head.
Anyway, it isn't so much that Ulic *could* take on a Jedi without the Force but the ease he did it with and who his opponent was. Sylvar may not have been a top tier opponent but dueling a Force-sensitive Cathar (who are superhuman even before augmentation) is no joke.
wristofkings it was a bear human wielding a sword. Not Durge. I know it sounds ridiculous. Honestly Sylvar was pretty good.
wristofkings it was Alto Stratus. He took on Anakin despite not being a force wielder.
Do vader vs dooku
Master Plo Koon is not dead, we want to see him alive again and tell us how he survived and remained hidden from the empire. we need to see that please dave fylony
Dude he exploded
Hey Jensaari1, before I watch the video, a few verse MAY irritate you after I have been asking for so long but I'll ask anyway. AND THIS NEEDS TO HAPPEN: Exar Kun vs Darth Krayt, Exar Kun vs DE Luke Skywalker, Exar Kun vs Tulak Hord and Exar Kun vs Darth Bane, Darth Plagueis and/or hmmm...... Mace Windu? Anakin Skywalker perhaps? THE MOST ARROGANT JEDIS IN HISTORY OF OUR TIME?!
Rico Chico Malico did DE Luke vs Kun if you want to watch that.
He literally can’t do Tulak Hord. Look at Evan’s “Top 10 characters that can’t be used in the Versus Series”
But anyway, Krayt and Windu win, Luke was done, Bane and Anakin lose and idk about Plagueis
TheKunLineage94 You realize that Tulak Hord CAN’T be used, right? They can’t use him because there isn’t shit to draw on for him. The ONLY thing known about Tulak Hord is his reputation. That alone is not enough to work with.
Why do I get the feeling your underestimating Exar Kun?
Gotta do Ki Adi Mundi vs Qui Gon Jinn
Ki Adi would win
Holding of Grievous while tired and hindered>contending with Darth Maul
Ki adi was exhausted before he fought against grievous on Hypori and he lasted the longest out of all the jedi. Well, Mundi was mostly just holding out.
Plo Koon VS Obi Wan Kenobi?
Timmy No Thumbs that fight would swing for Plo Koon. He would likely not be able to break Obi Wan's defenses but the same would apply in reverse. Plo Koon however has a plathara of Unique and combat applicable force abilites along with the pure magnitude of power to overwhelm Kenobi, especially considering Obi Wan has a relatively weak force wall.
No, no, no. Kenobi doesn't have a weak force wall. Dooku is an absolute master of telekinesis, he was suffering from a debilitating toxin when Ventress broke his defences and TCW Maul in a alternative universe (canon) was amped up by force rage. Kenobi is the superior force wielder capable of more subtle manoeuvres such as manipulating Anakins mechno-arm and using force repulse to obliterate durge.
J Obi Wan is not superior to Plo Koon in the force. Both use telekinesis in intelligent and practical ways but there is simply more to Plo Koon. Plo Koon has several offensive force abilities ranging from debilitating to letal. Plo Koon and Obi Wan both use tutiminis as a defensive ability so that cancels out. Plo Koon however uses Malacia a force ability to induce nuasea and sickness in targets and has the ability of force lightning called by him "Electric Judgement".
J Force wise Koon I believe is the superior stronger telekinesis than Kenobi, exceptional telepathy, and of course Electric Judgment although Kenobi would likely block it with his lightsaber with relative ease all in all Koons telekinesis should be able to get through Kenobis Force Wall not because it’s weak but because Koons telekinesis is just that strong
Saleucami System the lightsaber duel would be the most interesting part of this matchup Koon has a different type of Djem So that could prove difficult for Kenobis near perfect defense he staggers with powerful strikes and looks for small openings to take advantage of and has a very strong defense, meanwhile Kenobi has near perfect defense with attack styles in Ataru, Niman and some of Shi Cho its a near perfect setup for a fight
I wonder how well Savage Oppress would fair against Sora Bulq
Antares Draco and Lucien Draay vs Quinlan Vos vs Arryn Leneer, Darth Sion vs Starkiller (clone). Quigon Jinn vs Kit Fisto. Cay Qel Droma vs Obi wan kenobi ( attack of the clones) Xanatos vs Padawan Anakin Skywalker. Darth Azard vs Darth Nihl.
am i the only one getting skipping in the audio?
Darth Malak Vs shaak ti?
Malak wins
Malak. Love how their dueling styles match up, but Malak's force abilities makes this his win.
I disagree, I think Ti can handle Malak or at least has a respectable chance.
Yeah that's what I thought too that her style of combat is atleast enough to be on a similar playing field as Malak
Malak ragdolls, an absolute raping.
VS Series matchups i would like to see ;
Asajj Ventress VS Anakin Skywalker
Shaaki Ti VS Obi Wan Kenobi
Plo Koon VS Anakin Skywalker
Exar Kun VS Darth Krayt.......... come on we all want this one
Ashoka Tano ( Rebels) VS Starkiller
Darth Bane VS Darth Tyranus
Sora Bolq VS Oppo Rancisis, what would have happened if they went face to face ?
ROTS Anakin stomps.
Either way. Leaning Kenobi.
Anakin.
Either way. Leaning Krayt.
Marek/Starkiller.
Bane but that's a good fight.
Bulq. More durable, faster, better duelist and Oppo is a big target.
I agree with all of that
Jack Newton Why would he do Ventress vs Anakin when they have ALREADY fought MULTIPLE times in both old and new canon? The whole point of these videos is to pit characters against one another who either lived in the same era and haven’t fought each other, or characters from completely different eras who couldn’t fight each other simply due to living in different lifetimes.
To finally put to rest of who would ultimately win .There is many times we of course see them fight and it could go any way. So i think that they should finally face each other for good. No escapes, no diversions , 1vs1. If i had to guess who would win, i would give a slight edge to Ventress
Jack Newton You’re missing the point here. Jensaari and his friends do not (and will not) do battles that have already actually happened within the SW franchise.
Darth Caedus v. Darth Nox
And here I am, still waiting for Darth Vader vs Kyle Katarn.
And you got it
Plo Koon vs Malgus
My money’s on Plo
Tanner Lowrie Ditto
Called it.
Tanner Lowrie Indeed guy🤣🤣🤣
I find it kinda annoying how combatively weak sora bulq is considering that I'm pretty sure he was a battle master. I agree with the verdict of the video but I am definitely underwhelmed with how the jedi battlemaster can be defeated by someone with all the physical disadvantages because it basically shows that some random (though admittedly powerful) old jedi master has trained to be better that the person who literally dedicated his life as a jedi solely to combat
1:02 lmao do you also see thru the lies of Dave Filoni? There are many more of us than one would expect, and I'm meeting more and more every day
Darth Cadeus Match Up?
We should have a many lesser vs fewer greater of Kit Fisto and Shaak Ti versus Darth Caedus.
Two jedi council level force users facing off against a near emperor level force user.
I kind of like Cade Skywalker because its the Anti-hero Skywalker vs Anti-villain Skywalker.
Caedus beats Cade. Krayt was manhandling Cade with the Force both times they fought and Caedus is almost if not equal to Krayt in terms of power and skill.
Rob George he's my favorite Skywalker
+wristofkings Caedus is not Krayt's equal in terms of skill. Caedus isn't to far off in force power though so Caedus could take this easy on the basis of force abilities.
Yoda vs Darth Malgus
I agree that Koon would defeat the overzealous Sora Bulq at the end of the war, but I’m not sure if he would be able to defeat Jedi Bulq, who, in my opinion, would provide more of a challenge to Koon.
Not sure about jedi Bulq. Considering he got one shotted by Dooku, and contended with a Mace who was holding back.
Not very impressive feats
Darkside Bulq is better though
This is who I am Plo wouldn’t perform any better against either.
Ki Adi Sandwich Isnt Plo confirmed to be a peer of Mace?
This is who I am no.
Emperor Palpatine vs Darth Krayt
Palpatine but potentially a decent fight
Sora Bulq vs Darth Zannah, Galen Marek or Corran Horn
Crado vs Tol Skorr
Battle of the semi-useful idiots
I find it extremely difficult that jedi council level force users can damage characters that can withstand a explosive mass of a continent when they sometimes struggle to preform building feats from time to time.
What people actually forget when scaling jedi and sith to Yarael Poofs feat in the Zam one shot comic is that very shortly before Yarael supposedly performed the feat was the fact that he was stabbed by a weapon that might not even be up to the duration of a building.
There's so many problems into scaling them to such a high level that it should be almost unthinkable in scaling them there with only ones that are just under to grandmaster/emperor level force users being to able to do it.
Heck there were even non-force users that survived a full blast from darth malgus, a human named Jace supposedly survived the power of 10 times + nuclear warheads.
And don't me started with people scaling Darth malak to the star forge that was just a load of crap.
+Allen Knox Don't even get me started on scaling and SW calcs. Some are quite easy (Jax Pavan deflecting laser ex.) other can be a nightmare (Plague casually changing weather in Naboo and using that as a base to figure out his max output in his prime).
I'll never get over how they ignored full sentences and clarifications of what George Lucas stated of vaders power to be 80% of Sidious.
They are actually stupid enough to scale Darth Vader over a million times weaker than Darth Sidious, when Vader reached to the level of 8/10 of Sidious in ROTJ.
+Allen Knox ikr. Btw, I thought that statement meant Vader was 80% of ROTS Sidious? Also, how much of a force power diff is ROTS Sidious vs ROTJ Sidious? I really just know about DE Sidious force power (which causes wormholes).
Sure, okay.
Obi Wan vs Exer Kun (sorry if I didn't type his name right) and Dooku vs Shaak ti.
Those two are very lopsided... Dooku is easily superior to Shaak and Kun ragdolls Kenobi without a thought. There would have to be some strict regulations for those fights to be 'fair'
Exar Kun is not penetrating Obi wan's Soresu defense any time soon in a lightsaber duel and Obi wan can't contend with Kun's force abilities.
Obi-Wan contended with Anakin Skywalker, he is not going to be beaten by Exar Kun.
Exar Kun isn't stomping Kenobi.
Kenobi has defended 20 strikes per second from General Grievous. Thats more then enough to say Kenobi>Kun in duelling.
But Kun may win due to superior force abilities
Depends how you view Anakin on Mustafar. It was clear to me that he was drastically hindered after choking Padme, and ROTS novel notes that he hadn't had any food or sleep for days
Ven Zallow vs Ki Adi Mundi
Darth Malgus vs AOTC Kenobi and Anakin
Anakin vs Exar Kun
Darth Caedus vs Krayt
Sora Bulq vs Ven Zallow
Grievous vs Kao Cen Darach
Yoda vs Darth Tenebrous and Plagueis
Uthar Wynn vs Darth Bandon
This is who I am Malgus and Kun win, It's a stomp
yeah unless the anakin is supposed to be ROTS in which case the match gets far closer
Kun isn't stomping Anakin, that is very silly
Mundi, close fight. Better defense and speed feats based on his performance against Grievous on Hypori.
Malgus. Jedi team has comparable saber skill but no real answer to Malgus' extreme durability or Force powers.
Very close. Anakin is stronger and a (slightly) better swordsman, but if Kun digs into his bag of tricks (Trakata, Sorcery, Amulets), gg.
Could go either way but leaning Krayt. Better swordsman, more experience, comparable in the Force but slightly greater range of combative powers. Caedus' sheer durability and alternate weaponry have to be factored in though.
Bulq. Assuming he doesn't go berserker, his technical skill arguably exceeds Malgus and little Zallow has would surprise him.
Grievous. Darach has the skill but lacks the speed or stamina to keep up with the General, and his TK isn't powerful/focused enough to disable him.
Sith. Plagueis is a big threat by himself, we don't have enough on Tenebrous but it is safe to assume the master and apprentice would be at least comparable in power, Yoda would be hard pressed to contend with both.
No idea.
wristofkings i would agree with all verdicts
Sora Bulq vs Sylvar
Physical: Bulq
Lightsaber combat: Sylvar
Force: Bulq
Lightsaber: Bulq
Winner: Sylvar 7/10
Sora Bulq vs Lucian Draay
Yeah Lucien should win this, tough fight because of Sora's skill but Lucien has the tools to end it
Draay. Bulq is precisely the kind of opponent that Lucian's skill set was built to take down.
I don't think Vapaad was never truly mastered. By anybody
Mace Windu.
TheNuisanceBird Not really. Maybe to the like Soria Bulk and others who have used it Mace was better with it but didn't truly mastered it. He never really fully tested it out. Especially the super conducting loop part of the form. The only time he reached the full potential of that form was against Sidious and it wasn't enough to me Sidious immense power overload Vapaad and push Mace to his breaking point which in turn cause him to get tunnel vision and possibly step in the darkside. These two video's I've seen over and over to me is the best example of how powerful Sidious was and how that not even Vapaad was enough.
TheNuisanceBird ruclips.net/video/thsFbDtLrVg/видео.html
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I'm well aware of those two videos. I meant in it's moveset and not falling to the dark side. He did create it afterall.
It's been too long.
Andrew Church it’s been 2 weeks. Lol
Weird that you call Plo Koon "Fanatical." And yes you are cherry picking about the lack of electric judgement in TCW.
Full thoughts after I watch.
Rob George I mean was there a reason for it not being in the show it could have cause some drama in my opinion
Exactly why it was left out. It would cause controversy and drama.
A shame but not the end of the world for me.
Idk man, Plo Koon may be more viable in an overall combative way, but I think that Sora could out fence him one on one. I'm also unsure about how effective Koon's lightning would be. I doubt that it was as powerful as Dooku's, but more pressingly, once bitten, twice shy. I think Sora would see Koon and adjust his defences for lightning. Either way, I loved how you presented your views.
I have to say, I really don't agree with this one. I love Plo and will defend him till the day I die, but Sora Bulq is a great example of a generally lesser combatant packing the right skill set to overcome a generally greater one.
As far as physicality, there's really no contrast. Plo does well for what he is, but his maximum capabilities are those of a somewhat fragile, though mentally indomitable master past his prime. He's able to augment his abilities so that he can stand against a peak human combatant, i.e. Anakin Skywalker, but Bulq has additional advantages that simply put him past that level. His species grants him all the advantages you list--and those advantages MATTER, especially with somebody like Plo who's going to try and slug it out. Sora Bulq is stronger, more durable, and boasts greater endurance (yes, those are different things) and the few real advantages that Plo can leverage, Bulq can at least keep pace with it. To expand on Rob's point, also in comments, the fact that Bulq goes all-out as a berserker doesn't make him fragile. It makes him all the more dangerous, and when you input the factors of incredible strength and fortitude that he possesses, it puts him leaps ahead of Plo.
Regarding saber combat, the matchup between these two really doesn't seem to be in Plo's favor. We know he leans more toward Shien, and while that style would actually be my first choice in combating something like Shii-Cho or Djem So that relies upon full-commitment power blows, it matches up really poorly with Juyo. (Yes, I know Bulq is credited with mastery of all forms, but let's be real. He's a Juyo fighter.) The latter form isn't angular like Djem So, it's about leveraging every opportunity in order to accomplish one goal: Cut. Cut the opponent, cut their skin, cut their heart, cut their robes, cut their blade, CUT by whatever means necessary. Shien can hold out against that, but it has no retaliatory power, and in Plo's case he can't hold out indefinitely. He just doesn't have the stamina. With regard to Plo's use of Djem So, this gives him a better option, though it's likely the weaker of his two pairs in a general sense. But even still, Plo's power strikes won't break Bulq--he can deal with them. And Bulq, extraordinarily mobile fighter that he is, isn't going to stay in one place long enough to leave himself open to the kind of slow, measured counterattacks Plo favors. Take the two styles, Djem So and Juyo, not just in their theoretical sense but with regard to how these two apply each one, and Plo's simply not packing enough heat.
Force abilities are one place I do lend the advantage to Plo. His abilities are more versatile, and while he lacks the willingness to dominate through sheer strength that Bulq possesses, he's subversive and wily as all hell. His passive barriers are sufficient to nullify, or at least minimize, the damage Bulq can do to him, and he's not going to respond in kind. He's going to look for openings, which Bulq will inevitably present, and because his Force abilities aren't hampered by limited reach like his lightsaber abilities, I do see Plo having more luck here. This is especially true with Electric Judgment--I can only see Plo getting one or two good hits off before Bulq wises up, but if Plo makes the most of them, those could very well turn the fight to his favor. Same goes for telekinesis and the rest of his abilities.
As for sabers...well, if you give Bulq his shoto it's no contest. And, by right, I give Bulq his shoto.
I'm not saying this is an easy fight for Bulq. It's not, and any kind of egregious mistake on his part will get him seriously injured or killed. But I can't bring myself to believe that Plo will be able to force that kind of mistake, and barring that, it's going to be a slow, churning match that will break Plo down before it breaks Bulq. In essence, although the styles don't match up, this fight is a diet can of ROTS Skywalker against a diet can of Dooku. And given what we know about Plo Koon and Sora Bulq, it'll likely go the same way.
Nice analysis. I still lean towards Plo winning (mainly on the back of Force powers) but I don't think it's quite as one-sided as Jensaarai paints it. Physicality is a big point against Koon here and Bulq's sheer ferocity is enough to tax that. Throw in Sora's extra blade and Plo will spend a good amount of time on his back foot. He can still catch Sora out if he overextends his offense but it won't be easy.
Why do you use Sora he never wins in your videos
He won against Qui Gon
Qui-Gon never wins-the only time he did win was against Old Ben and Zannah, who, in turn, never win :(