In the video I failed to mention is that the shallow pocket cut for the legs also has wiggle room on either side to accommodate wood contraction. Another caveat to this situation is that we live in an incredibly humid climate. The southeast united states is in a constant state of humidity that I call “hot soup” for most of the year. During the cold months the humidity is also generally high due to it being the rainy season. Bottom line, kiln dried lumber in Mississippi is the smallest it will ever be right out of the kiln. In my experience, kiln dried lumber will experience a higher than normal expansion over the first year or two and then start the natural process of normal expansion and contraction with seasonal changes. Your region and the final destination region are both something to consider when building furniture. The average moisture content I was getting while building in the shop was 7%. In our climate, furniture will generally settle around the 10% number.
You probably have seen the Woodpecker One Time tool, Clampzilla, but this looks perfect for this project. Though, the tried and true way you clamped us has been used for forever. Just wondering if you’re as interested in the tool as I am?
The audio coming out as i watch this on my tv is mono did ur mic break or had to voice over it was odd sounding or just the beginning part its not totally like that
Jay I enjoy ur builds I am a custom contractor in Cali Commi’s ia! Anyway at the end I seen the pic of you and your daughter on the wall!! Jay she is just toooooo cute! Thanks 4 being a good dad! God Bless!
I've been a loyal subscriber/follower since you started your journey in the apartment where you did maintenance. I really enjoy all your content. I couldn't help but start laughing when you had 3 of you looking at each other and peeking at the camera. Great table build. Have a great day young sir. God bless you and your family.
This might be the first live edge table I actually like. The softened edges on the sap wood are the perfect touch. It lets you know its all natural but for me at least its still aesthetically pleasing. I've seen way to many live edge tables that use thick top coat epoxy to fill in and seal ragged live edges. This table just lets the wood grain speak for itself. Its all natural without being raw nature.
The table turned out great, Jay. I know your friend and the client are pleased. I love your CNC. I want to add a large one to my shop in the near future.
I don't know why I never thought of how a CNC could be used to joint the edge of a piece like that. That's brilliant! But please, tell us how you really feel about sanding? 😄
All shops are the same... My wife laughed from cross the room at the "fart" comment. I just smiled! The finish was right on. The grain was beautiful. Nice job.
Now I see a legit use of a large CNC table. Flatten, edge on a slab that is too large for the machines typically used for those operations. Turned out wonderfully.
It’s beautiful. I certainly know what you mean about the wood coming out of the kiln being the smallest it’s going to be. I live in Indiana (land of uber humidity)
Great work Jay. Can I offer a recommendation? Buy a direct drive 6” sander (Bosch, Festool, Makita). You won’t regret it. I opted for the Bosch version and it is light years better than my old 5” Dewalt ROS. Plus a 6” pad has 45% more surface area than a 5”.
Since you had the pieces already neatly strapped to the CNC, did you consider routing in a pocket to cover most of the crack with a wooden inlay - like an oversized bow tie? That could have lowered the amount of epoxy needed and would have been invisible with the black epxy on top...
Hello, I am looking at making a table like this, but I am concerned about the legs pulling the screws out with horizontal movement. Do you think these legs will survive the table being rocked backwards and forwards for example if it was being dragged along the ground? Would it be better to have two legs with a bar across the middle to give more strength?
Beautiful work, as always. I must say I'm disappointed that your streak of no live edge pieces is over... I can't stand this trend :( As a side note, I'm loving your cnc videos. I recently got into many different cnc and cnc-adjacent hobbies and your videos are informative and entertaining.
Rather surprised about how close you cut the biscuit slots to the top surface and then it appears that you didn't glue them in? Can you explain the reasoning for that, I always want to learn more. Thanks!
Biscuits are for alignment only. Glue isn't necessary in the biscuits as the main glue seam is going to be stronger than wood anyway. When I cut the biscuits the bottom surface was facing up. This is because it is the only flat reference face at that point. I put the biscuits closer to that face (bottom) because I was unsure how much material needed to be removed from the top.
Absolutely beautiful! Very informative and entertaining. I especially loved seeing the finish bring the wood to life. I have a quick question. I notice the C channels we installed during the finish application. Did you finish those areas before the install, or is it unnecessary? Thanks as always.
Your videos have slowly moved away from what the average woodworker can make or do. Its nice you have a big expensive CNC machine, but like a few other You Tube channels, not a tool that most wood workers have. Your work is at the commercial retail level in this video. Nice work and I am sure the client was very happy.
I was just wondering about wood expansion - you talk about allowing for expansion of the wood in the method of mounting the legs. But what happens with the epoxy? Is it rigid or flexible? As the wood expands and contracts - does it pull the epoxy apart?
I really don’t care for the river slabs tables. I just don’t trust epoxy enough. Don’t care for live edge either but the customer is always right. In a few years you can get paid again to put a strait edge on it. Well done collaboration.
Wow. Amazing table and terrific video. I don’t have a biscuit joiner, so have made table tops with either dowels or just glue + cauls. I almost bought that Makita joiner a year ago, but then thought maybe it was worth just saving up for a domino instead. Any reason you didn’t use a domino here?
Surfacing took way too long because I was deliberately conservative with the depth of cut still trying to figure that part out. The Edge jointing only took a minute if I recall correctly
Taking videography/editing lessons from Jackman, I see. Beautiful table top. I think the legs could've been cooler but I'd still be thrilled to have it as is.
@@JayBates Oh, the more comical edits to the video, especially with multiples of you supervising and one person working, reminding me of a lot of the ways Jackman Works likes to edit his videos. It's pretty funny, and I enjoy it. Good job!
Beautiful table, great execution! When doing the biscuits on the seam, why go so close to the bottom surface instead of centering the cut on the slab? I’ve been watching Ishitani Furniture as well, and he consistently uses 2 rows of biscuits. Thoughts?
Really no need for a second row of biscuits. They are used strictly for alignment and do not add any strength at all. One of the main reasons for placing them so low on the seam is because biscuits will swell when the glue is applied and cures up, causing the biscuits to "telegraph" through the wood (basically, they create a bulge in the grain). By placing them low in the seam, any telegraphing from the biscuits goes to the bottom side of the table, and won't be seen.
Isnt that the same Jeremy that did the spraying overview videos from back in the day? Hope he was proud of abilities with the spray gun these days Jay. Also, you need to have a word with Jay number 2 about those looks he gives you. I think he has some resentment building up from not being given enough camera time.
So what is to keep wood from separating from the epoxy with expansion and contraction? I always see this done and can't imagine this type of table will even last 5 years.
Gorgeous wood. Enjoyed your build process. I'll be happy in a decade when all the live edge fad has faded. I'll buy some projects like this cheaper and straighten up those distracting edges.
In the video I failed to mention is that the shallow pocket cut for the legs also has wiggle room on either side to accommodate wood contraction. Another caveat to this situation is that we live in an incredibly humid climate. The southeast united states is in a constant state of humidity that I call “hot soup” for most of the year. During the cold months the humidity is also generally high due to it being the rainy season. Bottom line, kiln dried lumber in Mississippi is the smallest it will ever be right out of the kiln. In my experience, kiln dried lumber will experience a higher than normal expansion over the first year or two and then start the natural process of normal expansion and contraction with seasonal changes. Your region and the final destination region are both something to consider when building furniture. The average moisture content I was getting while building in the shop was 7%. In our climate, furniture will generally settle around the 10% number.
You probably have seen the Woodpecker One Time tool, Clampzilla, but this looks perfect for this project. Though, the tried and true way you clamped us has been used for forever. Just wondering if you’re as interested in the tool as I am?
Never heard of it.
@@JayBates it’s this month’s one time tool. A four way clamp. It looks like something awesome.
The audio coming out as i watch this on my tv is mono did ur mic break or had to voice over it was odd sounding or just the beginning part its not totally like that
Looks great Jay. I literally laughed out loud at the Jay peeking in from the edge of the frame.
Me 2
Same
very cool..... and the super effects of having 3 Jays in there was really good. Technology and someone smart enough to use it.
Jay I enjoy ur builds I am a custom contractor in Cali Commi’s ia! Anyway at the end I seen the pic of you and your daughter on the wall!!
Jay she is just toooooo cute!
Thanks 4 being a good dad!
God Bless!
Simply SUPERB !!! Extraordinary work
I've been a loyal subscriber/follower since you started your journey in the apartment where you did maintenance. I really enjoy all your content. I couldn't help but start laughing when you had 3 of you looking at each other and peeking at the camera. Great table build. Have a great day young sir. God bless you and your family.
WOW, that grain is so beautiul! It is so great to see your projects again. Bravo, bravo!
This might be the first live edge table I actually like. The softened edges on the sap wood are the perfect touch. It lets you know its all natural but for me at least its still aesthetically pleasing. I've seen way to many live edge tables that use thick top coat epoxy to fill in and seal ragged live edges. This table just lets the wood grain speak for itself. Its all natural without being raw nature.
you have come so far from your humble beginnings in the shop i believe it wa an apartment buildings . very cool
Editing master! Really funny! I need the Mario sounds back though
Great build, I love the finish you got off of it that made the natural wood grain really pop!
Simple but elegant! Great project👍👍
Nicely done Jay, I'm sure the client will be really happy too.
The table turned out great, Jay. I know your friend and the client are pleased. I love your CNC. I want to add a large one to my shop in the near future.
Ha, best editor in the woodworking community. Love the triple Jay.
Nice project and great outcome.
I don't know why I never thought of how a CNC could be used to joint the edge of a piece like that. That's brilliant!
But please, tell us how you really feel about sanding? 😄
Me and sanding go back a long way. Never been a good relationship..
That is awesome. The booked match really makes it shine.
Great work Jay & friend. Outstanding outcome.
Great job, Jay and Jeremy!
Beautiful end result! Also, at 15:50, the 2 knots attached to the black cracks looks like an elephants face, which is also pretty sweet!
Since you have all of the skills and tools, I have a slab for your next wood and resin project.
great looking walnut live edge table ,good team effort and you crack me up when there's 3 jays in the video ,funny as
Beautiful work and great editing!
Fantastic table and great video. Love the workshop😁👍
Wonderful project. Great job!
All shops are the same... My wife laughed from cross the room at the "fart" comment. I just smiled! The finish was right on. The grain was beautiful. Nice job.
Excellent work! Love the soundtrack and extra Jays, Jays, Jays
Turned out great! I love it! Seriously, very nice job.
The epoxy makes it look like the table is sad (crying), but it looks awesome. Great job!.
Very interesting use of those channels on the bottom. Thanks
Incredible work, guys!
Fantastic build thank you for taking us along, oh and yeah I see you’ve found a way to clone yourself during the build as well bravo lol.
Great looking table. Thanks for the video.
wow, amazing table 👌👍😍
14:23 ... LOL 😂😂 a third Jay looking at the corner
Good eye!
Great project! The dust collection on your CNC is great.
Now I see a legit use of a large CNC table. Flatten, edge on a slab that is too large for the machines typically used for those operations.
Turned out wonderfully.
I know you’re probably not interested but you and Jeremy have a business right there, man that’s a beautiful table
Huge job but fantastically done. Love it.
It’s beautiful. I certainly know what you mean about the wood coming out of the kiln being the smallest it’s going to be. I live in Indiana (land of uber humidity)
Nice work. and awesome result!
Great work Jay, turned out great, I love it!
Awwwwesome work Jay. Thanks for sharing. *Chris*
14:21 - I laughed so hard - Jay I love your sense of humor man
Table looks amazing Jay! 😍👌🏻 Really enjoyed the video! 😃👍🏻👊🏻
Watched this video on my tv and forgot to come back and comment. Really enjoyed it! The table turned out beautiful!
Great work Jay. Can I offer a recommendation? Buy a direct drive 6” sander (Bosch, Festool, Makita). You won’t regret it. I opted for the Bosch version and it is light years better than my old 5” Dewalt ROS. Plus a 6” pad has 45% more surface area than a 5”.
I got the 6" rotex right after making this project.
Jay Bates - Woodworking Videos nice! That makes sense. You wouldn’t be a good friend if you let him use the rotex lol.
This thing is beautiful!
Great Video Jay!
Pretty table. What stops the slab expanding and widening away from the epoxy?
I knew you where three of you guys. Nice work, all three of you :)
Since you had the pieces already neatly strapped to the CNC, did you consider routing in a pocket to cover most of the crack with a wooden inlay - like an oversized bow tie? That could have lowered the amount of epoxy needed and would have been invisible with the black epxy on top...
Nice project.
Looks great
Typical shop: Three guys standing around with their hands resting in the apron bib, four guy doing the work of sanding. 😉
Good job (great) and super great editing.
Beautyfull result,excellent my friend.
Hello, I am looking at making a table like this, but I am concerned about the legs pulling the screws out with horizontal movement. Do you think these legs will survive the table being rocked backwards and forwards for example if it was being dragged along the ground? Would it be better to have two legs with a bar across the middle to give more strength?
Beautiful work, as always. I must say I'm disappointed that your streak of no live edge pieces is over... I can't stand this trend :( As a side note, I'm loving your cnc videos. I recently got into many different cnc and cnc-adjacent hobbies and your videos are informative and entertaining.
Rather surprised about how close you cut the biscuit slots to the top surface and then it appears that you didn't glue them in? Can you explain the reasoning for that, I always want to learn more. Thanks!
Biscuits are for alignment only. Glue isn't necessary in the biscuits as the main glue seam is going to be stronger than wood anyway. When I cut the biscuits the bottom surface was facing up. This is because it is the only flat reference face at that point. I put the biscuits closer to that face (bottom) because I was unsure how much material needed to be removed from the top.
Absolutely beautiful! Very informative and entertaining. I especially loved seeing the finish bring the wood to life. I have a quick question. I notice the C channels we installed during the finish application. Did you finish those areas before the install, or is it unnecessary?
Thanks as always.
A lot of really good epoxy tips in the Video.
Your videos have slowly moved away from what the average woodworker can make or do. Its nice you have a big expensive CNC machine, but like a few other You Tube channels, not a tool that most wood workers have. Your work is at the commercial retail level in this video. Nice work and I am sure the client was very happy.
I'm pursuing what I find interesting. I encourage everyone else to do the same :) have a great day!
Love the table! Could you tell me how long were the flattening processes?
One of those projects where there's two people working on something that definitely doesn't need four hands. :)
I was just wondering about wood expansion - you talk about allowing for expansion of the wood in the method of mounting the legs. But what happens with the epoxy? Is it rigid or flexible? As the wood expands and contracts - does it pull the epoxy apart?
Same this I am wondering, the epoxy sets up hard so eventually that spot should fail.
Your editing is always hilarious idk who does it better you or Paul Jackman 😂
I really don’t care for the river slabs tables. I just don’t trust epoxy enough. Don’t care for live edge either but the customer is always right. In a few years you can get paid again to put a strait edge on it. Well done collaboration.
Wow. Amazing table and terrific video. I don’t have a biscuit joiner, so have made table tops with either dowels or just glue + cauls. I almost bought that Makita joiner a year ago, but then thought maybe it was worth just saving up for a domino instead. Any reason you didn’t use a domino here?
Sweet table. How long did the cnc surfacing, edge straightening process take?
Surfacing took way too long because I was deliberately conservative with the depth of cut still trying to figure that part out. The Edge jointing only took a minute if I recall correctly
Taking videography/editing lessons from Jackman, I see. Beautiful table top. I think the legs could've been cooler but I'd still be thrilled to have it as is.
Lessons from jackman?
@@JayBates Oh, the more comical edits to the video, especially with multiples of you supervising and one person working, reminding me of a lot of the ways Jackman Works likes to edit his videos. It's pretty funny, and I enjoy it. Good job!
Wow beautyful!
Does this design wobbles? I’ve seen it not often and I’ve always wondered if there is some racking without any stretchers?
These bases were pretty solid. No noticable movement.
What kind of tape do you use to keep the resin from leaking? Thanks
very good Jay.💯💯👍👏👏👏👏👏👏
Any particular reason for the location (vertically) of the biscuits? Am I wasting time trying to get them centered?
I wanted them close to the bottom as I was unsure how much material was going to be removed from the top.
I really like it.
Beautiful table, great execution! When doing the biscuits on the seam, why go so close to the bottom surface instead of centering the cut on the slab? I’ve been watching Ishitani Furniture as well, and he consistently uses 2 rows of biscuits. Thoughts?
Really no need for a second row of biscuits. They are used strictly for alignment and do not add any strength at all. One of the main reasons for placing them so low on the seam is because biscuits will swell when the glue is applied and cures up, causing the biscuits to "telegraph" through the wood (basically, they create a bulge in the grain). By placing them low in the seam, any telegraphing from the biscuits goes to the bottom side of the table, and won't be seen.
Jay answer for another person asking the same question was that he was unsure of how much material was going to be removed from the top.
Out of curiosity, is there a reason you did epoxy instead of a bowtie? Looks great BTW.
Really nice
could you tell us what model DeWalt track saw that is and how deep will it cut?
Have you made Jeremy a Mute 🤐. Table turned out phenomenal!
The third you peeking in was awesome, tho it kinda creepily reminded me of the furries in The Shining lol. Awesome job!
very nice, how much?
Would a CNC sander attachment make any sense?
They are called strip sanders. Not made anymore but used to be used for flattening tables and such
Isnt that the same Jeremy that did the spraying overview videos from back in the day? Hope he was proud of abilities with the spray gun these days Jay.
Also, you need to have a word with Jay number 2 about those looks he gives you. I think he has some resentment building up from not being given enough camera time.
Spraying overview video was Matt lane.
So what is to keep wood from separating from the epoxy with expansion and contraction? I always see this done and can't imagine this type of table will even last 5 years.
We use bow ties for checks in our slab tables. Interested to see what may happen. Looks beautiful @jaybates
How much is the cnc?
Kind regards
Jacob
One more awesome project and video from Mr. Jay Bates. I think it would be cool if you did a video on how you do your videos, if you haven't already.
does rockler sale the table support bars that you installed?
Gorgeous wood. Enjoyed your build process. I'll be happy in a decade when all the live edge fad has faded. I'll buy some projects like this cheaper and straighten up those distracting edges.
Ok.
We’re did u get the 3 channel braces from
Thank you for not making a river table!
Let's let the wood do the talking :)
Why is it every time I watch one of these vids I think of the movie "Moon"? Oh Yeah!
I loved that movie.
Where did you get the c channel?
Jay,I have client that wants a table built. When can I come over?
That turned out amazing. Great job and thanks for sharring... #wheelzwoodworking
Where did you get your c-channel?
Local metal shop
What's the opinion on the mirka sander? Better than rotex or Bosch?
Never used a Mirka.
Excellent job, but for myself, I would have taken the corners out a bit, rounded.