2:52 I agree with a lot of what you are saying, however as a WH user, the main dps for the weapon are basic attacks. The nerf to CC abilities several patches ago made it so clear out, WB, don't hit as hard. But both confirm light attacks and shield bash which confirms a heavy. Shockwave confirms full heavy with stopwatch. Looking at WH passives in the skill tree, heavy attacks have a lot of dps passives for damage. That's how I can hit 4k heavies with only 223 str and 384 con in my videos. Overall, I still think strength attributes will be strong for WH if you are building it for basic attacks. The int light/heavy attack dps increase if I understand correctly will be applied only to the elemental 50% when you split.
Very Informative, as always! If you haven't already, could you please discuss ring perks? Specifically the comparison between Keen Awareness & Damage increase?
you forgot the +10% base damage to abilities from 350 strength. Also it is important to notice that the +15% elemental damage for example will only improve half of your damage with the split gem, so it is essentially only 7.5%, because the other half is not elemental damage. Also consider that you lose the effect of the gem you would normally slot, like the +12% damage while stamina is not full. I think for the 100% STR/DEX weapons it will still be better to go STR/DEX instead of INT because you lose 10% base scaling, 12% from gem and the "elemental damage effects" from INT are only at 50% effectiveness. For Greatsword it is debatable because it will go from 81 to 90% scaling with the gem. For the 90% weapons (SnS, Spear, Hatchet, Rapier, Blunderbuss) it might roughly even out and it will depend on the secondary weapon if the gem is worth it or not. Overall I think what these changes mainly do is two things: - improve the damage of some weapon combos that were "incompatible" before, such as SnS/IG - improve the damage of FOC based builds in general, because now you can get 80% FOC scaling on every weapon, whereas before you could get only 65% and that is only on VG and Flail (not considering Life Staff as DPS weapon of course) Going for these gems with a weapon combo that was already working before is probably not worth it.
10:18 without doing any calculations, I feel like new gems for blunderbuss will be overall net positive. This is from the perspective when using fire staff as primary. I currently allocate 50 strength for the additional light and heavy attack damage. But with these gems, you spec all into int and your fire staff will just hit hard af haha
Why did you ignore the 350 str attribute node but not the 350 int attribute node? Is base damage increase better or worse than a general damage increase?
it goes up to 350 now? I want to come back but I know it would consume all my time again. I have three lvl 60 characters with bis on almost all of them and I gave that up and it hurts from how long the thousands of hours. Just tell me it isn’t worth coming back.
@@SoyDuckHot Max gear score increased to 700 and max level increased to 65. Old gear scales to 675 in arena and opr so you don't have to get new gear to still casually enjoy those. The game will take up your time though 🥲
@@SoyDuckHotdont bother, game is a massive waste of time now and will most likely disappoint you like it has for more than half the community who have already quit again, devs decisions are borderline stupid and they have no care to balance the game
Mecrow, I know you are a busy guy and probably have a lot of questions to answer. I was wondering if you could talk about the current kill squad meta. I am GS/SNS in medium. im wondering what artifact armor you think i should wear, along with what perks i should have. I currently run tumblers and shirking heals with health. should i switch to freedom instead of shirking? also, would you give me an example of your ideal 5 stack for kill squad?
I should've have included the 350 int perk for that example just forgot for some reason. At 350 int str has 20% static dmg bonus to abilities and 10% conditional while int has 25% static and 12% conditional.
I believe this is a good change from pure pve standpoint. Currently the pve dps is very unbalanced. Some secondary weapons such as IG and VG (artifact) can provide very decent amount of damage, even if you don't really use it that much. Current meta rapier/IG that IG alone adds 10k+ dps. However, for other weapons especially Strength based ones, there are no secondary weapon that can boost your damage. For example, you can run greatsword with a greataxe. The second hand greataxe will only give you the ability to group mobs, it will not increase the dps.
So if I wanted to get the most damage out of say, a Lightning Damage SnS build with Mjolnir secondary, I'd run an T5 Topaz and primary stat INT now instead of STR/Int split for the +15% ele damage?
@Mecrow, consider you're running 350 dex and 150 int with a spear with a t5 lightening gem slotted. Since the base attribute dex is still higher than int, the 50% thrust damage part and the 50% lightening damage part should both still fully scale off of dex, right?
Been running a Life Staff with a War Hammer in pvp just for its crowd control. IF I understand this correctly I can run a Greatsword using a Sapphire and have 80% conversion to Focus/Damage so a GS would be 80% damage of a Str/Dex? BUT I would have the flexibility of having a higher damage option that currently available.
fuck dude I kinda want to come back but I got other shit going on in my life. I used to compete at the second from highest levels (although I did fight in a Handsome blokes vs Supple once). My gear would not be bis anymore I suspect and I don’t want to put the time in to get bis again. Is shirking fort resil still any good?
youre gear isnt relevant but the game is still fun for casuals. the 625 gear scales to 675 so itll still be pretty decent in Opr, just not great for wars and competitive play where things are always changing. Theres a lot of money exchanged there to keep relevant anyways.
with split gems the 15% more elemental dmg only workd on 50% of you dmg so you will gain just 7,5%, and tha math will be from 37% --> 29.5%, that counts to the 10% elemental atacks only works for 50% because the dmg is split 50%, (or i am worng?)
So do gems scale only the percent it's converting? For example if I had 100 phys damage. 50% convert to fire. so 50 phys and 50 fire. Does all my Int scaling only affect the 50 fire and not the 50 phys?
For my understanding this will change now (see "Removed: incompatible elemental perk" in the notes). Putting an Amber in "Odo" for example was not possible due to the elemental base dmg of Odo itself. With season 4 this should be no issue anymore. For me as a Healer/Cleric this is good news :-) Fingers crossed that it works from day one of the patch...
@@Skulltha Im saying i tried already on a flail on ptr and it would let me (and the flail had no element perk as well just to make sure) however it would allow me to put a magic gem in (fire, ice, void etc)
I tested this yesterday in ptr and none of it work at least for me I put a int gem in a normal bow and normal sns , to try and equalize the scaling and at 400 int the bow has 1079 and the sns had 975 damage. The sns itself if it was scaling at 90% 8t should have like 1175 or something The bow I I think would have like 1500 base damage . Idk if this is a bug or what
Lol, this doesn't hint at what game it is about in the trailer, kinda confusing if you randomly get this suggested by youtube's weird algorithm. I thought this was about path of exile or D4 instead of new world :D
Do the gems change the scaling to the new value? or multiply the initial scaling value by 90%/80%? Would GS gain 10% (80% -> 90%) scaling through int? or go from 80% to 72%
Why in thé str thingy u dont count in Ur 27 % thé 5 from light attack and thé 350 str that IS thé same as int ..... 😅😅😅 Especialy when thé 7 percent from int IS way more conditionnal.as thé one from str .... 😮😮
So, if I put a tier 5 conversion gem into my bow, then it's scales 90% of the physical thrust damage into elemental with leaves only 10% of the damage as being thrust/physical, thus, all my attributes would be best put into intelligence as the main stat instead of dex because the intelligence perks are better than the dex? What do you think would be a good split for max bow damage with a tier 5 conversion gem? Something like 350 intel/150 dex between those two attributes?
doesnt it say that it only scales 50% of the damage at 90% int? granted, for maximizing damage i can see how its still super beneficial. attribute scaling sucks past like 300 iirc, so being able to scale 90% off 2 different stats could definitely buff your damage if you went like 250 each, or 300/200, etc.
I think if you have strength weapons your only getting 50% of the damage at 90% so you don’t want to go all int unless it’s secondary, as net net a str weapon will still do more damage with all str, at least that’s the way I am reading it.
@@MegaReinart after watching @Kristopher video on the subject I realize what I was missing. I was thinking about "Damage" while over looking the “scaling". The whole 50% elemental thing threw me.
In the example of the LS /Rap you say instead of rap scaling at 0% it would be 90%, but really that is only for 50% of the damage, so half of the damage at 90% so effectively 45% instead of 0%, no??? I am posing this as a question not a statement, but that part confuses me.
I believe the wording on the patch notes is "... scale ALL of the weapon's damage to INT/FOC ..." so it's not just 45% but the full 90%. Then again just because that's what those words mean in english doesn't mean that's what AGS was trying to communicate.
its not 50% of the damage. it scales all damage at 90%, in the case of focus its 80% and that's all damage, both the elemental portion you're converting via gem and the base thrust damage.
@@nib6383 yea that’s what I’m thinking. A lot of the other comments are basing their opinion on the CURRENT gem conversion of 50% and not the new elemental conversion (ptr notes), IN ADDITION to how it changes the scaling on said weapon using either int/focus. My understanding is if a healer uses a rapier with gem conversion at 80% damage scaling, a theoretical light rapier attack of 1000 base damage would effectively do 800 damage for that healer. Still wouldn’t do as much damage as a dps spec’d into dex and int, but way more than a healer currently can do
All i hear was pvp healer (war) will have a better reason to run war hammer secondary as not only do you get cc for safety but now you do damage as well. Healer meta about to be even more annoying.
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Thank you so much for this video.. it's pretty hard to understand.
I think this could be a game changer for lots of builds.
2:52 I agree with a lot of what you are saying, however as a WH user, the main dps for the weapon are basic attacks. The nerf to CC abilities several patches ago made it so clear out, WB, don't hit as hard. But both confirm light attacks and shield bash which confirms a heavy. Shockwave confirms full heavy with stopwatch. Looking at WH passives in the skill tree, heavy attacks have a lot of dps passives for damage. That's how I can hit 4k heavies with only 223 str and 384 con in my videos. Overall, I still think strength attributes will be strong for WH if you are building it for basic attacks. The int light/heavy attack dps increase if I understand correctly will be applied only to the elemental 50% when you split.
Very Informative, as always!
If you haven't already, could you please discuss ring perks? Specifically the comparison between Keen Awareness & Damage increase?
So what you’re saying, is great sword life staff will be my build, thank tou
you forgot the +10% base damage to abilities from 350 strength. Also it is important to notice that the +15% elemental damage for example will only improve half of your damage with the split gem, so it is essentially only 7.5%, because the other half is not elemental damage.
Also consider that you lose the effect of the gem you would normally slot, like the +12% damage while stamina is not full.
I think for the 100% STR/DEX weapons it will still be better to go STR/DEX instead of INT because you lose 10% base scaling, 12% from gem and the "elemental damage effects" from INT are only at 50% effectiveness. For Greatsword it is debatable because it will go from 81 to 90% scaling with the gem.
For the 90% weapons (SnS, Spear, Hatchet, Rapier, Blunderbuss) it might roughly even out and it will depend on the secondary weapon if the gem is worth it or not.
Overall I think what these changes mainly do is two things:
- improve the damage of some weapon combos that were "incompatible" before, such as SnS/IG
- improve the damage of FOC based builds in general, because now you can get 80% FOC scaling on every weapon, whereas before you could get only 65% and that is only on VG and Flail (not considering Life Staff as DPS weapon of course)
Going for these gems with a weapon combo that was already working before is probably not worth it.
10:18 without doing any calculations, I feel like new gems for blunderbuss will be overall net positive. This is from the perspective when using fire staff as primary. I currently allocate 50 strength for the additional light and heavy attack damage. But with these gems, you spec all into int and your fire staff will just hit hard af haha
What really worries me - how many Paladin builds we will see. There will be a massive % of players running LS as back bar if this goes live.
Why did you ignore the 350 str attribute node but not the 350 int attribute node? Is base damage increase better or worse than a general damage increase?
it goes up to 350 now? I want to come back but I know it would consume all my time again. I have three lvl 60 characters with bis on almost all of them and I gave that up and it hurts from how long the thousands of hours. Just tell me it isn’t worth coming back.
@@SoyDuckHot Max gear score increased to 700 and max level increased to 65. Old gear scales to 675 in arena and opr so you don't have to get new gear to still casually enjoy those. The game will take up your time though 🥲
@@SoyDuckHotdont bother, game is a massive waste of time now and will most likely disappoint you like it has for more than half the community who have already quit again, devs decisions are borderline stupid and they have no care to balance the game
@@MegaReinart man, seems like things haven’t changed much. Thanks
wouldn’t it just be 50% of the damage scaling at 90% the 50% if all your points are in int then 50% dex str weapons damage would be weak
Devs: "Int isn't overpowered if literally everyone can go int"
If everyone's overepowered, then no one's overpowered.
Mecrow, I know you are a busy guy and probably have a lot of questions to answer. I was wondering if you could talk about the current kill squad meta. I am GS/SNS in medium. im wondering what artifact armor you think i should wear, along with what perks i should have. I currently run tumblers and shirking heals with health. should i switch to freedom instead of shirking? also, would you give me an example of your ideal 5 stack for kill squad?
Similar question, Im a SnS/FnS but it feels like meta will be switching to int, considering IG/Spear
Great video! Really made this change clear, thank you. May be better for intel melee in pve...Will have to test on dummy
So why did you ignore 350 str perk in comparison to 350 int perk?
I should've have included the 350 int perk for that example just forgot for some reason. At 350 int str has 20% static dmg bonus to abilities and 10% conditional while int has 25% static and 12% conditional.
@@mecr0w 10% physical damage + 7% base damage under 90% health + 10% base damage = 27% static and 10% conditional for 350 str?
I believe this is a good change from pure pve standpoint. Currently the pve dps is very unbalanced. Some secondary weapons such as IG and VG (artifact) can provide very decent amount of damage, even if you don't really use it that much. Current meta rapier/IG that IG alone adds 10k+ dps. However, for other weapons especially Strength based ones, there are no secondary weapon that can boost your damage. For example, you can run greatsword with a greataxe. The second hand greataxe will only give you the ability to group mobs, it will not increase the dps.
So if I wanted to get the most damage out of say, a Lightning Damage SnS build with Mjolnir secondary, I'd run an T5 Topaz and primary stat INT now instead of STR/Int split for the +15% ele damage?
sounds right. although you dont want to use rune glasses damage on the Weapon itself sounds like.
@Mecrow, consider you're running 350 dex and 150 int with a spear with a t5 lightening gem slotted. Since the base attribute dex is still higher than int, the 50% thrust damage part and the 50% lightening damage part should both still fully scale off of dex, right?
Yes
this will make most people go int builds, which makes elemental armor the way to go in pvp
Been running a Life Staff with a War Hammer in pvp just for its crowd control. IF I understand this correctly I can run a Greatsword using a Sapphire and have 80% conversion to Focus/Damage so a GS would be 80% damage of a Str/Dex? BUT I would have the flexibility of having a higher damage option that currently available.
yes
Doesn’t this mean healers will be able to do a considerable amount of dmg with their offhand? Seems terrible for the game if that’s true
yes but not really bc focus doesn't have any dps passives
fuck dude I kinda want to come back but I got other shit going on in my life. I used to compete at the second from highest levels (although I did fight in a Handsome blokes vs Supple once). My gear would not be bis anymore I suspect and I don’t want to put the time in to get bis again. Is shirking fort resil still any good?
Shirking Heals in bis right now even though it just got nerfed and resilience doesn't exist anymore. Instead, it was changed to the Health perk.
There's an expansion, none of your gear is relevant anymore
youre gear isnt relevant but the game is still fun for casuals. the 625 gear scales to 675 so itll still be pretty decent in Opr, just not great for wars and competitive play where things are always changing. Theres a lot of money exchanged there to keep relevant anyways.
Resil doesn’t exist anymore
with split gems the 15% more elemental dmg only workd on 50% of you dmg so you will gain just 7,5%, and tha math will be from 37% --> 29.5%, that counts to the 10% elemental atacks only works for 50% because the dmg is split 50%, (or i am worng?)
you are correct for the elemental yea... god that's weird
So do gems scale only the percent it's converting? For example if I had 100 phys damage. 50% convert to fire. so 50 phys and 50 fire. Does all my Int scaling only affect the 50 fire and not the 50 phys?
I feel like everyone is going to run lifestaff as a backbar now and scale their weapon off of focus
Yea you lose a good amt of damage but that works
thanks for making this video
Interesting that you can put a focus gem (sapphire and amber) in a life staff but not a flail, not sure if this is intentional
For my understanding this will change now (see "Removed: incompatible elemental perk" in the notes). Putting an Amber in "Odo" for example was not possible due to the elemental base dmg of Odo itself. With season 4 this should be no issue anymore. For me as a Healer/Cleric this is good news :-) Fingers crossed that it works from day one of the patch...
@@Skulltha Im saying i tried already on a flail on ptr and it would let me (and the flail had no element perk as well just to make sure) however it would allow me to put a magic gem in (fire, ice, void etc)
Ability wise, STR is equal to INT, it is 37%.
so how do i build my musket now if i used to run tier 5 ele gem, with 350 dex / 150 int?
so you need to put those gems into the weapon and that makes the dmg transform to int/focus?
I tested this yesterday in ptr and none of it work at least for me I put a int gem in a normal bow and normal sns , to try and equalize the scaling and at 400 int the bow has 1079 and the sns had 975 damage.
The sns itself if it was scaling at 90% 8t should have like 1175 or something
The bow I I think would have like 1500 base damage . Idk if this is a bug or what
Lifestaff/Hatchet 💕we back baby...
When do the gem changes drop?
Lol, this doesn't hint at what game it is about in the trailer, kinda confusing if you randomly get this suggested by youtube's weird algorithm. I thought this was about path of exile or D4 instead of new world :D
It has the new world tag on for the game :/
150 int would only work on 50% of the damge no?
Do the gems change the scaling to the new value? or multiply the initial scaling value by 90%/80%? Would GS gain 10% (80% -> 90%) scaling through int? or go from 80% to 72%
it would gain 80 -> 90%
you note 27% vs 37% but what about the fact that it scales 90% rather than 100%? Also why leave off the 10% heavy? that's big for hammers
actually 100 int would apply to melee as well would it not?
yea 100 int would, I was just doing a calc off dmg w abilities
Why in thé str thingy u dont count in Ur 27 % thé 5 from light attack and thé 350 str that IS thé same as int ..... 😅😅😅 Especialy when thé 7 percent from int IS way more conditionnal.as thé one from str .... 😮😮
So, if I put a tier 5 conversion gem into my bow, then it's scales 90% of the physical thrust damage into elemental with leaves only 10% of the damage as being thrust/physical, thus, all my attributes would be best put into intelligence as the main stat instead of dex because the intelligence perks are better than the dex?
What do you think would be a good split for max bow damage with a tier 5 conversion gem? Something like 350 intel/150 dex between those two attributes?
No, your damage is split 50/50 thrust and elemental. But it's scales 90% from int
@@samuelbarratt9346 Ahhh, ok. Thanks
But it would still be better to go 350 int 150 dex for bow for more burst dmg?
So can i run amber in my flail to.get higher scaling or qill jasper still have better dmg output ?
with jasper changes it might still be better 30% dmg with jasper now
doesnt it say that it only scales 50% of the damage at 90% int? granted, for maximizing damage i can see how its still super beneficial. attribute scaling sucks past like 300 iirc, so being able to scale 90% off 2 different stats could definitely buff your damage if you went like 250 each, or 300/200, etc.
No it's all of the damage
@@samuelbarratt9346 "50% Conversion to Element *at* 90% scaling off of INT"
I think if you have strength weapons your only getting 50% of the damage at 90% so you don’t want to go all int unless it’s secondary, as net net a str weapon will still do more damage with all str, at least that’s the way I am reading it.
It says ALL dmg tho
@@MegaReinart says all gems will do 50% conversion to element. Me crow goes on later in the video to mirror my sentiment, I believe.
@@JamieKeefer if int or focus is higher stat then wep scales off from that, its explained in the video
@@MegaReinart after watching @Kristopher video on the subject I realize what I was missing. I was thinking about "Damage" while over looking the “scaling". The whole 50% elemental thing threw me.
If you 50 int then it’s ok to use gem for rapier?
Yea it won’t convert over
More videos testing this please.
yea they are coming it's just wack
350 str bonus is pog.
yea I should've left 350 int bonus off just muddies the water, but people don't run it in pvp a ton because they want 300 con for grit
In the example of the LS /Rap you say instead of rap scaling at 0% it would be 90%, but really that is only for 50% of the damage, so half of the damage at 90% so effectively 45% instead of 0%, no??? I am posing this as a question not a statement, but that part confuses me.
yea was talking about w healer specifically who run rapier in that case. Wasn't the best example, but yea rapier scaling at 90% with dex.
I believe the wording on the patch notes is "... scale ALL of the weapon's damage to INT/FOC ..." so it's not just 45% but the full 90%. Then again just because that's what those words mean in english doesn't mean that's what AGS was trying to communicate.
its not 50% of the damage. it scales all damage at 90%, in the case of focus its 80% and that's all damage, both the elemental portion you're converting via gem and the base thrust damage.
@@nib6383 whenever I use gems there are two numbers, 50% is base and 50% gets the elemental. Why would they say 50%?
@@nib6383 yea that’s what I’m thinking. A lot of the other comments are basing their opinion on the CURRENT gem conversion of 50% and not the new elemental conversion (ptr notes), IN ADDITION to how it changes the scaling on said weapon using either int/focus. My understanding is if a healer uses a rapier with gem conversion at 80% damage scaling, a theoretical light rapier attack of 1000 base damage would effectively do 800 damage for that healer. Still wouldn’t do as much damage as a dps spec’d into dex and int, but way more than a healer currently can do
I guess we get some variety now, I know normies wanna run around like a battlemage. Now the dream is alive.
why did I not understand anything !! wish there was a kindergarten version of this :'(
All i hear was pvp healer (war) will have a better reason to run war hammer secondary as not only do you get cc for safety but now you do damage as well.
Healer meta about to be even more annoying.
This is going to ruin pvp completely imo...
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Sounded perfect for me 🤷♂️
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Why did you ignore the 350 STR bonus?
Cause I dumb