WE BROKE NEW WORLD | Gearscore is BROKEN

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  • Опубликовано: 22 июл 2024
  • This poorly designed mechanic is being utilized in PVP. It was brought to AGS' attention and was deemed not an issue, but is being abused by players. In this video I wanted to introduce gearscore is BROKEN.
    #newworldmmo #newworldpvp
    discord: / discord
    twitch: ttv/miicrow
    bugforum: forms.gle/b5Bi7uJC91mmtfjB7
    bugsheet: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/...
    timestamps:
    0:00 How Damage Works
    0:55 Broken Buckets
    2:11 How Gearscore Works
    3:10 Tanking Gearscore is Beneficial?!
    5:15 What Modes Does this Break?
    5:26 What Roles Benefit?
    7:11 Why isn't this Fixed?!
    9:39 Blake was Right
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Комментарии • 114

  • @JJMTB
    @JJMTB Месяц назад +39

    How in the hell has no one been fired

    • @edkorey1380
      @edkorey1380 Месяц назад

      AGS probably has a powerful Union that protects their jobs. The Buddy system is real!

    • @x_x714
      @x_x714 Месяц назад

      They would have to fire all of them

  • @ThaCousin
    @ThaCousin Месяц назад +28

    AGS, u didn't listen ur community about this for more than a year.
    No drama no fix? Time to work.

    • @McDudes
      @McDudes Месяц назад +1

      True having shitty code and math in combat and armour calculations shouldn't be acceptable in an RPG game.

  • @ohsfiegwsrg
    @ohsfiegwsrg Месяц назад +20

    Why is Scott Lane still lead? I would like for him to step down and let someone else lead...
    (not calling for him to get fired, just held accountable)

    • @mecr0w
      @mecr0w  Месяц назад +14

      I’m not sure how after all this ngl

    • @TelevisionWarrior
      @TelevisionWarrior Месяц назад +1

      Put me in coach

  • @kashman4251
    @kashman4251 Месяц назад +24

    AGS Killed the game from Day 1

  • @fooojin
    @fooojin Месяц назад +6

    Someone said this has been in the game since 2023. If that's true, what else is there? What are all the "elite" companies abusing and keeping quiet about more? The gap between new players and seasoned might be more than just "skill"

  • @GP-ur6if
    @GP-ur6if Месяц назад +6

    I have always thought that the NW dev team can't do algebra and this seals that as truth

  • @angrytrees7519
    @angrytrees7519 Месяц назад +2

    Well this explains something I've been experiencing. My lowbie alts I just took from 60-65 and they were still wearing 600 gear felt more durable than my 700 gs main. I thought I was going nuts because playing an alt on eu with 200 ping in 600 gs was going great. 💀

  • @MyGamester
    @MyGamester Месяц назад +1

    thank you for making this video. this is crazy.

  • @valiant719
    @valiant719 Месяц назад +1

    Awrrrrrrrriiiighhhhttttyyyy Then. I dunno whether to slap AGS or just slap myself for enduring this meme fest. Thx for highlighting this mecrow.

  • @user-bb3rr2dq7s
    @user-bb3rr2dq7s Месяц назад

    Hey @Mecrow do you have a link do your damage mitigation desmos graphs? Would love to look at some of the numbers

    • @mecr0w
      @mecr0w  Месяц назад

      I do but we proved it to not be 100% accurate and thing the dmg formula changed. I was going to see if I could create an equation today to model it.

    • @user-bb3rr2dq7s
      @user-bb3rr2dq7s Месяц назад

      @@mecr0w Ah ok I see. Would love to see the final equation/model if you ever get around to it!

  • @Altarknight
    @Altarknight Месяц назад +1

    Hey , i'm tot play this kow poo game for a reason. But before i stopped i made on my last video , test about armor and absorb how hard is to calculate what and how is working.but i got a low lvl Flail by an accident and got totally different numbers on mitigation, and don't understand why.

  • @thezikaz
    @thezikaz Месяц назад +1

    I remember running into a player VERY early in the game that was called "NO PVE" and he would sit outside Myrk at lvl 30 and 2shot 60s. Saw this man win a 3v1 because scaling made him godly.

  • @zanexander
    @zanexander Месяц назад +7

    The fact that they still have a job after so many failures amazes me.

  • @darrelllopes5013
    @darrelllopes5013 Месяц назад +3

    Thier real problem is they never fixed anything. They always act like it's a big deal to change a line of code real quick and patch the game for 2mb. Like almost every other game dev company can do. THEY can't. They always make us wait months and then forget about fixing that bug or just dont prioritize it. They talk about focus on quality with there new releases but never go back and fix the quality of the game itself

  • @vjtucker
    @vjtucker Месяц назад

    Has this been tested in war recently? I knew people that used this bug but apparently this did not work in wars like it did in open world. Just curious if that has changed

    • @mecr0w
      @mecr0w  Месяц назад +1

      It works. We tested it on stream to verify.

  • @bellgrand
    @bellgrand Месяц назад +6

    Wait. This was a bug in year one that they fixed. How did they reintroduce it???

    • @mecr0w
      @mecr0w  Месяц назад +1

      🤷‍♂️

    • @McDudes
      @McDudes Месяц назад +1

      Not the first time stuff like this happen. My guess is theres different people working on different versions of the build and they don't sync up between each others well enough. So every now and then an update re-introduces old stuff that has gotten patched out already.

    • @wayfa13
      @wayfa13 Месяц назад

      maybe someone pulled an old branch in when they were doing the Slayer Script stuff, or they straight up used the old, unpatched code for the reworks as it was cleaner and forgot to add this fix back.

  • @cooperpowell6984
    @cooperpowell6984 Месяц назад

    Any chance people knew about this a long time ago? I remember a healer in war linking his 620 jewelry 2-3 months ago. I assumed it was because he was on his alt and had no gold for 700 shit.

  • @xalix86
    @xalix86 Месяц назад +2

    beside what u said , i think there is something about gearscore dps aswell , i got shot from level 21 bow and took around 5k dmg with bis gear and i hit him for 7k with musket . he deal way too more than other bis gear player as lvl 21 player :) . i dont have low level account to try . if u know whats going on tell me please . i dont have a lot of info about these stuff ♥

    • @mecr0w
      @mecr0w  Месяц назад +1

      Yea that’s another problem too just isn’t as common… lol

  • @justinsheare6189
    @justinsheare6189 Месяц назад

    Run one weapon in OPR if you want to lower GS ?

    • @Shade04rek
      @Shade04rek Месяц назад

      Yep, people are just removing gear in OPR to get around the scaling and lower gs further. Apparently jewelry is the popular slots to drop first, and convenient since jewelry is perhaps the easiest to give up, stat-wise and for not making your character blatantly be missing armor slots or a weapon. I imagine the most "efficient" way though is no jewelry and 1 weapon.

  • @nate8383
    @nate8383 Месяц назад +1

    Is there a video of actual testing or just math?

    • @mecr0w
      @mecr0w  Месяц назад +1

      On twitch yea but I wanted to introduce it in this one

  • @Sandwich1600
    @Sandwich1600 7 дней назад

    did they fixed this already?

  • @adetonian
    @adetonian Месяц назад

    So bets on the fix? Just a quick code change or is AGS slapping the OPR 675 scaling on everything and calling it a day?

    • @mecr0w
      @mecr0w  Месяц назад +1

      Prob the opr fix but it doesn’t work… people took off weapons in opr and r basically invincible

    • @McDudes
      @McDudes Месяц назад

      @@mecr0w LMAO OPR fight club, wait can't you do this and still have a shield since a shield doesn't raise your GS? And then combine it with Umbrellaman strats? 💀

    • @wayfa13
      @wayfa13 Месяц назад

      @@McDudes I was already tanking so as to play OPR to get Serenity. I shall now nerf my weapons so as to be even more irritating xD

  • @VictorGaleskas
    @VictorGaleskas Месяц назад +1

    Dang I can build a nice healer BIS set for 25 gold. Thank you

  • @pencir5737
    @pencir5737 Месяц назад +1

    This game broke my heart. Such a shame.

  • @RavenStryker
    @RavenStryker Месяц назад

    This is only for PvP though right? This doesn't effect PvE?

    • @mecr0w
      @mecr0w  Месяц назад

      I believe it affects pvp that doesn’t have a gearscore requirement for an instance, which most people don’t care about. Not 100% sure though.

  • @kentignal6891
    @kentignal6891 Месяц назад

    does it apply to M3?

    • @mecr0w
      @mecr0w  Месяц назад

      Not to pve from what I tested

  • @CascadenTV
    @CascadenTV Месяц назад +2

    Wow, AGS are one big struggle bus.

  • @everlonggaming1966
    @everlonggaming1966 Месяц назад

    I have long believe they just googled the code from another game and tried to pass it on as their own since they cannot fix anything

  • @Tavis_aka_Kalik
    @Tavis_aka_Kalik Месяц назад +1

    I've been telling people the 625 weapons felt stronger... I was right. I didn't know math...just gut feelings

  • @saltydomes7023
    @saltydomes7023 Месяц назад

    sounds like its time for a turtle squad comeback

    • @mecr0w
      @mecr0w  Месяц назад +2

      Naked Ninja Turtles

  • @AziziSmalls
    @AziziSmalls Месяц назад

    this still being a thing in the game makes me want to come back hehe. hope you doing well mecrow tell homee and mighty im gonna eat their ass next time you talk to them

  • @realname2787
    @realname2787 Месяц назад

    why have devs let us down

  • @sirbam4435
    @sirbam4435 Месяц назад

    God damn 😮

  • @mrbicboi2540
    @mrbicboi2540 Месяц назад

    Going down gear score is costly in attributes tho - eg just -20 con is about 700hp loss which is when just dropping to 400gs weapon. if u drop to grey 100gs weapon u lost 38 stat, which is insane loss. So i dont think dropping gear score is actually that valuable or game breaking.

  • @Jay-ft3xh
    @Jay-ft3xh Месяц назад

    I car us? You dented bruh

  • @Pokey-xp9gn
    @Pokey-xp9gn Месяц назад

    The dirty secret is out

  • @goateeguyreviews9663
    @goateeguyreviews9663 Месяц назад

    please tell me this isn't on live right now lol

    • @mecr0w
      @mecr0w  Месяц назад

      It’s not fixed yet

  • @MASTERVAVI
    @MASTERVAVI Месяц назад

    Why not show it ?

    • @mecr0w
      @mecr0w  Месяц назад +1

      I wanted to introduce it here, but go into more depth with up coming videos. Full vod showing it is on twitch.

  • @McDudes
    @McDudes Месяц назад

    So I heard about the PvP shard and thought oh maybe the devs are cooking after all. But I see they are still using shitty ingrediencies and bad chefs

  • @danborg1228
    @danborg1228 Месяц назад

    they don´t care becuse new world is only hear to test their new engine and now after beeing gone for 6 months i know why i could not kill that freaking paladin earler se if i got the time to test this my self but, it´s easy to forget about this game

  • @fpsking931
    @fpsking931 Месяц назад

    the entire New World community (whatever's left of it, anyway) watched this video lol

  • @shawnmurphy6670
    @shawnmurphy6670 Месяц назад

    God - I hope they get rid of gear score altogether and the only thing that matters are the perks and character.

    • @mecr0w
      @mecr0w  Месяц назад

      I think it should be that way or close to that

  • @darwinb718
    @darwinb718 Месяц назад

    crap.. i deleted all mg 625 jewelries T_T

  • @newbishere1351
    @newbishere1351 Месяц назад +2

    Trick trick used to expose big game breaking bugs like this, so it brings it up to AGS and they literally asked him to stop doing it or they will take action against him or something for basically exposing exploits to the community in hopes to get it fixed.
    They have a track record of not prioritizing game breaking bugs in the live content since the games release. I appreciate the work you do, just be careful AGS doesn’t come after you for exposing these bugs and forcing them to fix it. While I agree with your thought process of letting everyone know, AGS sees it differently, they care more about console release vs the live client of the game.

    • @mecr0w
      @mecr0w  Месяц назад +3

      The difference is this was being used in pvp so it has to be fixed vs some of the stuff trick exposed was not being abused at the time… I agree this was a last resort from my pov

    • @newbishere1351
      @newbishere1351 Месяц назад

      @@mecr0w the exploits he was exposing were being abused in pvp But it is what it is. Figured I just put it out there. I agree with you making it public knowledge makes it fixed faster. Just trying give you a heads up is all.

    • @McDudes
      @McDudes Месяц назад

      Its not a fucking bug it's just shitty math or a horrible idea on how damage mitigation should work. Like why should players accept stuff like this in ANY RPG games where stats is a high priority on whatever you win or loose????

  • @brennonmoore5112
    @brennonmoore5112 Месяц назад

    No malachite in the IG🤯

  • @bigheadkittygaming
    @bigheadkittygaming Месяц назад

    I was wondering why in OPR I'll get hit for some ungodly damage number and it'll show a grey firestaff or other low level weapon. I just thought they were showing off lol. This game has so many exploits but I still enjoy it.

  • @jigsaw2862
    @jigsaw2862 Месяц назад

    GGs 😂

  • @zzzFaw
    @zzzFaw Месяц назад

    we love ags we love ags

  • @djacob9800
    @djacob9800 Месяц назад

    Ags still owes me gold from when the trading post was bugged and sold items gold was never received, i want my damn gold

  • @Amicals
    @Amicals Месяц назад

    Beyond unacceptable

  • @oddy297
    @oddy297 Месяц назад

    what a good game

  • @KaptainKush12
    @KaptainKush12 Месяц назад

    Appreciate bringing it to our attention. Tbh the unfortunate thing about it is NW lacks competitive integrity so anyone who can abuse this will, until then next one is found then onto the next.

  • @Brum-Bis
    @Brum-Bis Месяц назад +2

    1.5/10 game 9/10 combat system

    • @mecr0w
      @mecr0w  Месяц назад +3

      That combat system rating is falling though :/ peak def 9-10/10

    • @InconnuGlitterBoy
      @InconnuGlitterBoy Месяц назад

      Combat system was never 9/10 in this game. It always sucked. Pretty graphics with a shallow shitty buggy trash system behind it. Made by idiots for idiots.

  • @heartless_gamer
    @heartless_gamer Месяц назад

    Not to be "non-alarmist" but outside of war this is not a problem and in war its only a problem for a few support roles which were already barely die. Problem? Yes. Problem AGS should spend time on? No.

    • @mecr0w
      @mecr0w  Месяц назад +1

      It’s a problem for open world and when u introduce a pvp zone focused on open world it can cause… issues. Also ruins gear economy and a few other subsystems.

    • @pascaldota
      @pascaldota Месяц назад

      its just wars who care :D beside 2 % of population tho !

  • @Harrison_Rs
    @Harrison_Rs Месяц назад

    I honestly thought New World did so bad it shut down, clearly not.

    • @x_x714
      @x_x714 Месяц назад

      Couple of addicts still hanging on

  • @TriggerZz
    @TriggerZz Месяц назад

    RIP New World

  • @Der_Wolvenfang
    @Der_Wolvenfang Месяц назад +1

    Wars are for primadonas anyhow.

    • @mecr0w
      @mecr0w  Месяц назад +3

      So apparently it works in opr too cause u just become tankier if you are naked… game is chalked ;-;

  • @DisturbedMephit
    @DisturbedMephit Месяц назад

    Linux users, such as Steam Deck, can no longer play the game... QQ

  • @MrGhostbane
    @MrGhostbane Месяц назад +1

    Blake > Nostradamus

  • @DejvidR6
    @DejvidR6 Месяц назад

    this devs really cant make anything work huh? fun par what when perks were most important think on armor at begining and most of them didnt work or ven game u negative effect

    • @mecr0w
      @mecr0w  Месяц назад

      Something in their process is broken. Idk if it’s the devs, the project managers, qa, or a combo of all of them

  • @Cygleto
    @Cygleto Месяц назад

    Why is anyone still playing this game?

  • @breadgarlisauce1932
    @breadgarlisauce1932 Месяц назад

    Whats dumber?
    1.AGS
    2.people still playing this game.
    Choose carefully.

  • @EscoPvP
    @EscoPvP Месяц назад

    They will never fix this. The game is consistently dying and who cares about the remaining 200 PvP players when everyone of them abuse this?

  • @InconnuGlitterBoy
    @InconnuGlitterBoy Месяц назад +1

    It's truly mind-boggling how AGS, with their abysmal grasp on basic arithmetic, have the audacity to tout themselves as engineers. Perhaps they should consider going back to elementary school to brush up on their mathematical skills before attempting to tackle any real engineering projects.

  • @Z-MACx
    @Z-MACx Месяц назад

    Normally, I support your content. But this one is in really bad faith. I honestly have to say I’m disappointed. You knew this would intensify the public’s distaste towards NW and the devs. And right before the Friday announcement. Sad to see you sell out for a few extra views

    • @Shade04rek
      @Shade04rek Месяц назад

      Maybe AGS should just fix it. This exposure is a good thing, as this is just another elite-company secret/exploit that has tainted the game for who knows how long. Also its just 6k views.

    • @mecr0w
      @mecr0w  Месяц назад

      I don’t care about the views I care about the pvp island & other pvp modes being fair and balanced for players.

    • @tc-one3749
      @tc-one3749 Месяц назад

      Well, AGS ignored the community reports (as always), people kept it secret to avoid the abuse of it, and waited for changes for sooooo long. After ONE YEAR (actually more like 16 months) people use it to win wars and open world fights, so it was necessary to make it public.
      The community avoided this situation for 16 months and AGS did literally nothing, they didn't listen.
      It's AGS fault and only AGS fault. Blame them.

  • @MythicSapphire
    @MythicSapphire Месяц назад

    🤍🖤💜🎉🎉🎉

  • @grimetone
    @grimetone Месяц назад

    Oh no.. it's public

    • @mecr0w
      @mecr0w  Месяц назад +1

      Chaotic neutral

    • @TheCrushmaster
      @TheCrushmaster Месяц назад

      @@mecr0w Nah this is chaotic good for sure