Knife Basics - What You Need To Know About Knife Steels
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2020
- 8Cr13MoV. 14C28N. S110V. AUS-10. Elimax. LC200N. 1095. What in the world are you supposed to make of these? It's not just the intelligence community that has a plethora of alphabet soup, the knife world is just as bad. But what do they mean? Which one is best and which one is to be avoided at all costs? Well come along and I'll see if I can't start to shed a little light on the problem, but I'll warn you right now. The answer is no where near as straight forward as some would make it out to be.
For the charts mentioned in this video of the characteristics of various steels, go to: www.bladehq.com/cat--Best-Kni...
For other great videos in this series, check out our playlist at: • knife basics explained
As always, I invite you to like and share. And if you have any questions you'd like me to answer for you, please don't hesitate to let me know in the comments below.
The most charming and enjoyable channel I have stumbled on in a long time.
Thank you. I’m glad you enjoyed it.
great straight talk about blade steel with understandable examples of which steel is useful for what types of use.
My personal favorite steel right now is probably 80crv2, it is a cheap steel that has great toughness for a given level of hardness(significantly better than 1095) while being relatively easy to heat treat. It's edge retention isn't that great but I don't need great edge retention.
Guys no matter what steel you got ,, just get out there an have fun be safe ..
Fellow outdoorsman..
I'll subscribe to you man. You are a positive person and i like to listen to you and your knowledge. Stay how you are my man!
M390, elmax, maxamet , cruwear,1095,and 1075 great steels never had problem with non of them
Individuals looking for that "super steel" and willing to pay astronomical prices for it are always amusing . Many think , the higher the price = The better the blade .
My question to anyone is , What do you plan to do with your knife ? Do you need a blade to pry the doors off of automobiles or do you need a blade which will quarter / butcher and skin any animal on the planet as well as cutting up vegetables , brush shelter and fire making materials ?
A great example of people who actually used blades on a daily basis would be mountain men and explorers . A few examples are Kit Carson , Lewis and Clark who had blades forged from sword steel , wagon and buggy springs . Kit Carson - "The long knife or full ax was used ... I had no use for a tommyhawk or hatchet " . Folks would do themselves a favor by knowing what the term "Ductility" means .
Good video and thanks from a knife maker and mechanical engineer with plenty of background in metallurgy . All the best .
As the son of a mechanical engineer, your kind words mean the world. Thank you.
@@QuantumMechanic_88 so what is the best solution for " a blade; to pry the doors off of automobiles, will quarter / butcher and skin any animal on the planet as well as cutting up vegetables , brush shelter and fire making" knife?
@@HASHHASSIN Should I ever need to remove a car door , I have prybars , cutting torches and other tools . My personal use knives are hand made from 52100 , 1095 , & D-2 .
As far as production knives for the field , Kabar 1095 or D-2 , Cold Steel Trailmaster & Recon in O-1 or the original Carbon V steel . Becker blades in 1095 would be another good choice .
@@QuantumMechanic_88 thank you for quick answer, what is the best solution for chopping meat (not bones) or vegetables and stay razor sharp very long time.
@@HASHHASSIN For a field knife , I prefer high carbon in a blade length of aprox. 6 inches .
My favorite kitchen knives are Victorinox which is a higher carbon stainless steel with chromium .
One of the best all around camp knives is the Becker Magnum camp knife - 1095 HC blade .
For a decent kitchen cleaver , I often use hand forged cleavers made in Vietnam which can be purchased at many Asian food markets . Very low priced .
Just found your channel. Thanks for this video. You can't please everyone, so just do these videos the way you want to
Great content not going to lie I am a blade steel nerd but has not had a lot of experiences with different types loved this video definitely subscribe now not sure how it took me this long to discover you
It’s only recently that I’ve grown big enough for the RUclips algorithm to notice me. Plus, for some reason, many knife lovers don’t share videos. They like, they comment. They even argue with you. But they don’t share. So it’s not really surprising you just found me. Thanks for subscribing, & I hope you enjoy the ride.
@@ckurtz1013 I found you because I'm a metal nerd and I was looking up blade steel in your video popped up you are extremely knowledgeable and I will be a willing participant in the ride for sure and honestly I will try to share as much as I can but I do not have a lot of followers or people that will notice that I would give it a shot
@@ckurtz1013Searched for knife steels for beginners and got you suggested about the fourth on the list. Thank you, great video!
Brisa Finland/Enzo has some pretty affordable Elmax blades.
Under €200
And if I remember the fulltang enzo trapper blank was like 95? 100? Euros in elmax.
The biggest issue is that they're almost always immediately out of stock when they restock 😅
Thank you
Thank you so much for your video I have learned a lot about steels I am finding out the cheaper knives will not sharpen razor hair popping but toothy working knife which is not bad because that’s what use at this day and age !!
Man don't worry about the crybaby haters. Practice makes perfect...good video
Thank you my friend for the words of encouragement.
Hey thanks alot. It's Chemistry of alloys, my Major is Physics not Chem. I'm in a Kayak that may roll both river and close in Islands salt water - still learning. My knives are Tactical in event something or someone(s) attack during my field research for minerals.
Thank you!
you got it fam, much love from italy
First. Please I want the link to the picture of the video
Second. I'm from Brazil, and here we have steel 5160 and 52100, and idk the names of these steels in English, so plz help me!
Most steels have the same name no matter which country you live in since the name is decided by the company that makes the steel. That's definitely the case for 5160 (commonly used as a spring steel here in the U.S.A. as well as a knife steel), and I'm pretty sure that's the case for 52100 as well. As for the image I used in the thumbnail, I got it from BLade forums. A quick link is i.imgur.com/zmoixgj.jpg
same, those are just not as common in knives as many others.
5160 and 52100 are SAE terms that are defined using a US based naming system so the names are identical in English.
What is your favorite steel for long term survival knife?
My current favorite is CPM 3V. It's a very tough steel, with good wear resistance. 1095 is probably my second favorite. Again a very tough steel, and while it doesn't have the wear resistance of 3V it still takes an edge and holds it well. A third one would probably be 154CM. It's hard to work, so it's not common and it tends to be relatively expensive; but it holds an edge like nobody's business.
@@ckurtz1013 Can you recommend a 3v survival knife, which can allow me to do some bushcraft tasks as well?
I do not know why but I do not trust Cold Steel (SRK, Master hunter 3V)
and Bark River is bit expensive :D
Benchmade's 202 Leuko is probably the most affordable one I'm familiar with, and you might find some good deals from Bradford and Dawson; but in all honesty, I doubt you'll find many in 3V below $250. Another reason why 1095 is my 2nd favorite steel for outdoors type use. It's a hell of a lot cheaper than 3V or 154CM.
@@ckurtz1013 Thank you!
This makes me love cold steel even more does anyone know how strong or good carbon V from cold steel is It's a steel that was still made in America
Originally Carbon V was basically 1095 with a bit of chromium added to the mix. Unfortunately it's a proprietary term owned by Cold Steel and there is some evidence that they have changed the steel it refers to at least once. It still seems like a good steel though.
Many years ago I remember a hardness test of various knives from China. It was kind of scary, they slap any label they want on anything. There seems to be no standards.
It's all good steel except that 9 cr13 china steel . Buck does wonders with the 420 with it's heat treatment. Esee does a phenomenal job in 1095 and Benchmade has s30v the best. Spartan blades does s45vn very well. I have a Bradford in elmax that holds an edge but I wouldn't pry with it. .
Weirdly enough 1095 although perfectly adaquate actually has relatively sub par toughness at a given level of hardness so Esee could do even better with an alloy like 1084 or even better still with 80crv2.
I have a Chinese Spyderco Tenacious in 8cr13mov that is always in my pocket because it outperforms everything in my collection, including magnacut and m390. Know why? It’s a better knife and grind, design, and heat treatment than something like a Kershaw Link in M390. If it’s steel that can be hardened through heat treatment, it is good enough to make a fantastic knife. It’s more up to the maker than the steel.
Nerding out on steel is just a thing produced by the iphone generation where specs on paper mean everything, and actual, objective observation through use isn’t even considered.
Good vid mate, but going to disagree with the strength thing, muscle mass is no match for core strenth
True, but most people think muscle mass when they think of strength which is why I chose the example I did. If you prefer, substitute an Olympic weight lifter for the body builder. After all, there’s no way they could clear and jerk that much weight without hurting themselves unless they have decent core strength. But in a fight I’d still put my money on the martial artist.
Buck 19 blade steel is 420 hc. its not 440a or 440c steel which is a harder steel. I own a buck 19 and i will keep it cause i lost the receipt.
If I said Buck uses 440c, I misspoke. Still, their 420hc holds it’s own easily. I’ve heard very few complaints about Bucks. Of course, there’s always someone who will point out flaws in any knife, even ones using the latest super steel and costing $1000+
YOU WIN, 420 hc is not 440, ps i subscribe to your channel looking fowerd to learning more.
I am guessing it is 1095 is your favorite
1095 is actually my 2nd favorite, just behind 3V. It's much more affordable as a general rule than 3V though, which is one reason why it's more common.
How the heck did he know I was in New Mexico?
Okay, tho. Please get to it. When you waste that much time on asking people to subscribe, they're only going to click away. Sorry.
Goodbye. On to the next video.
Despite your best efforts perhaps making videos is not your calling ... you clearly mean well, but.
I know I have a form of stutter that does put some people off. Still, I have a fair number of people who seem to disagree with you. I'm sorry you don't appreciate my videos. Do you have any suggestions? I'm always open to constructive criticism..
@@ckurtz1013 I was like number 16. Targetswattitude, I feel that Darrell O'Neal is correct. I am going to split this criticism into parts like pros and cons. With that said if you do not like my advice. Well you don't have to use it. Just that, hear me out ok?
Please understand that I am an animator. I have been creating commercials for local business, power points, and a painter. For about 6 years now. There are better animators out there. I am a professional.
Sorry for the self horn tooting.
Pros first:
1. You are knowledgeable. You clearly know what you are talking about. No one wants to listen to someone who gives bad advice. Let alone fallow said bad advice. So lets maximize the amount of time spent talking about what you know.
2. You have that feel of a father sitting down with his kid. To teach him how to do a thing. In this case. You are telling us about knives.
3. Your outro was Perfect. You got to go because you need to get ready for work.
Advice: /\ do more /\
Cons:
The introduction of the video is way too long. You took a little over 7 mins to say hi and tell us what the video is about. The average RUclipsr takes about 2 mins to do a introduction. The issue with this. Is people come here to learn about the information you are providing.
Advice: Greet us with a one liner. Tell us why you are an expert on this subject. Then tell us what you are going to talk about.
Example: So you wanna learn about knives? I have been a blade smith for 40 years now. Lets talk abut knives, types of steel, and how they all fit together.
The shorter the better.
I think this is why Darrel left a negative comment. People will stop watching the moment they get bored. Honestly no one should want the viewer get bored. I mean only a kid who is being talked to by their dad will sit for 7 mins to listen to a intro. Even then that little bugger trying to worm their way out of it.
Right Grandpa?
So again don't stop making videos.
ps Tell dad jokes. USE CHARM
@@xPumaFangx thank you. This is the sort of criticism I can definitely use. I agree I tend to ramble too much in the opening on many of my videos & I am trying to work in it. Just haven’t had as much success as I could wish yet, but I am working on it. My complaint with the original critique was that it came across as “you suck. Give up”. That may not have been what they were trying to say, but it was the way it sounded. Thank you for the advice.
Loved your video because you clearly know what you are talking about and explain it well. Would I prefer if you where a 21 year old hot girl in a bathing suit that talks like Dolly Parton, yes, but the information presented clearly is what I am here for. Thank You!
25 minutes of someone's face: YUCK!
The steel is such a small part of the equation when making a good knife, it almost doesn’t matter.
Which is why at the end I mention that knowing the proper knife for the job at hand and the reputation of the maker is more important than knowing what steel it’s made of.
Guys no matter what steel you got ,, just get out there an have fun be safe ..
Fellow outdoorsman..