Feels like a compromise to cram EV components in a car designed to have an engine. Like driving an after-thought. This review makes me more curious about the non-EV version.
Avis shockingly had this for rent and I was upgraded since I rented EV and this was the only EV left on the lot. Would have preferred any other sedan once I had to put suitcases in. With the battery taking up space the trunk could barely hold any luggage. Severely compromised except as a in town cruiser. But then why do you need 280 miles of worth battery for in town?
Doesn't matter if buying a sedan, a classic sports car, a pickup truck or a minivan, the price point is the first thing to consider. Buying a 3 row SUV doesn't suddenly make an additional 20k appear in bank accounts. So if 80k isn't in the budget then it's perfectly painless- no one's forcing anyone to get it. If it is in the budget then there's no pain unless it's a bad car.
@@markcoopers1930my thoughts exactly. If you're buying an $80,000 car then you can afford it or at least think you can. The process itself is price agnostic so if it's painless that's all the better.
@@1clancymNice! I don't think it's that much of a one-off, EVs and luxury cars are two of the most rapidly depreciating vehicle segments. Combining them must cause even more severe depreciation.
I was lucky to drive the GV60 and GV70 electrified. I liked them both, but I felt like the ride was a little stiff for a company that is going towards luxury. Also be careful if you turn off the safety systems, they will just spin tires all day. Other than that, they are great vehicles.
I’m much prefer my Cadillac lyric all-wheel-drive to the Genesis G80. I visited a genesis gallery here in meatpacking district New York City. It’s right next to Tesla, Rivian, Lucid, and Fisker. The G80 is a decent car but it’s too small for my needs. I do like that Hyundai decided to simply turn an existing car into an electric vehicle - something that I wish Mercedes would do with the S class. Unfortunately, unless you’re a Tesla, you suffer from the exact same problem at all other electric vehicles do: everybody else is charging network sucks. Tesla is the best charging network.
Genesis definitely offers a bit of value, but not as much as they used too. It’ll be interesting to see how they compare with more established brands in the future.
G80 ? 5100 lbs. CAR [waste Energy 2move it ] vs my 4500lbs 2001 Chevy Ext cab Truck ??? Whats More GREENER and Safer ?? or will hold its LONG TERM VALUE ?
Idk why someone would get an EV version of an ICE car when they could get a GV60 with more modern styling that uses a dedicated EV chassis from the EV6
@@gregkramer5588 that’s fair, but I’m wondering who is the buyer for a papaw/mamaw style big luxury sedan that is also an EV conversion on an ICE frame/body
Sorry Roman, but 280 miles is not phenomenal. Not even close. In fact, any car with less than a 300 mi range is not ready for prime time, and I ignore completely. As far as I'm concerned, 300 mi is just the max range starting point. @3:29 Anyway, at 6'4 and mostly legs, I know exactly what you're talking about in terms of the low seat. Because the battery placement raises the floors, that cause your knees to point up. That position becomes fatiguing after a while especially on a long day trip. That inherent design limitation is just another reason EV don't appeal to me.
Car reviewers need to disclose if they were paid to do this review and if anybody is reviewing the footage before it is posted. Even if nobody is it's nice to know. This feels like they paid them to review this car, way too positive and almost no negative things even though there are plenty of negative things.
Heaven forbid something just be mostly good. The world isn't a balancing act. Every vehicle, home, appliance, or any other product isn't going to have an equal amount of positives and negatives. That's not how reality works, and it doesn't mean people are paid off. If there's a concern about the integrity then compare their review to other sources TSP, TH, SG, RR, KK, MM, or the legacies like MT, C&D, TG- there's countless. But I'm sorry to say you're going to see a similar conclusion almost anywhere. Genesis did a good job with this vehicle. If the goal is to throw objectivity out the window and only see a bad review just search specifically for a video trashing it, or make one and publish it.
Lexus: 80k for a Toyota? No thanks! Rolls Royce: 80k for a Mini? No thanks! Acura: 80k for a Honda? No thanks! Audi: 80k for a Volkswagen? No thanks! Lincoln. 80k for a Ford? No thanks! Your argument is stupid and it’s never worked. Anyone who understands even an elementary amount of how engineering works knows that too.
I love it’s design and look but having the charge port in the front is a bad idea with winter weather and ice and snow it’s asking for trouble. But if they gave me a good deal on this I would buy it ❤
Great video Roman and Alex
im glad these buddy reviews are back
That LC500 is so beautiful.
🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
Feels like a compromise to cram EV components in a car designed to have an engine. Like driving an after-thought. This review makes me more curious about the non-EV version.
It was designed for either at the beginning
So a compromise on both then
Avis shockingly had this for rent and I was upgraded since I rented EV and this was the only EV left on the lot. Would have preferred any other sedan once I had to put suitcases in. With the battery taking up space the trunk could barely hold any luggage. Severely compromised except as a in town cruiser. But then why do you need 280 miles of worth battery for in town?
Jack of all trades, master of none.
"You're a bit of an odd duckling" lol
paraphrasing the LC500 conversation... "I don't like it because it's beautiful" ?? Huh???
odd in a good way
I love Roman's enthusiasm when the Lexus roles by!
The LC is like a beautiful woman, that's why Alex doesn't care for it 😂
I love it when you guys do combined reviews which is hard to achieve.
Genesis interiors are nice! They've come a long way since the days of the Equus. I'd aim for one if I didn't live in rural Colorado.
there is NOTHING nice about them
@@DaleWilly Well, it seems we're at an impasse of opinions. Where to go from here... (awkward silence)
Of all the words you can use to describe the process of buying an *$80,000* car, "painless" is not one of them.
Plus $9,000 to get it reg.lic. State/local/county Tax NO Pain Right
Doesn't matter if buying a sedan, a classic sports car, a pickup truck or a minivan, the price point is the first thing to consider. Buying a 3 row SUV doesn't suddenly make an additional 20k appear in bank accounts. So if 80k isn't in the budget then it's perfectly painless- no one's forcing anyone to get it. If it is in the budget then there's no pain unless it's a bad car.
@@markcoopers1930my thoughts exactly. If you're buying an $80,000 car then you can afford it or at least think you can. The process itself is price agnostic so if it's painless that's all the better.
I don't know if i had a one off experience, but I just bought a 2023 with 1600 miles for $51k out the door
@@1clancymNice! I don't think it's that much of a one-off, EVs and luxury cars are two of the most rapidly depreciating vehicle segments. Combining them must cause even more severe depreciation.
Looks great inside
Such an amazing-looking car! It's hard not to notice Genesis cars
I like the buddy reviews, more please.
Love it when my favorite RUclipsrs have buddy reviews! G80 is very nice for $45K if you are shorter than Roman.
Alex is a marketing robot. Plus he’s a Toyota/Lexus hater. The LC500 is gorgeous full stop yet he still took a swipe at the brand.
This is a really elegant car. I like it. The LC500 was styled off the LFA, and I like that it doesn't look like every other Lexus.
Wow that’s. Beautiful interior
I was lucky to drive the GV60 and GV70 electrified. I liked them both, but I felt like the ride was a little stiff for a company that is going towards luxury. Also be careful if you turn off the safety systems, they will just spin tires all day. Other than that, they are great vehicles.
Lucky? They are junk
Thank you !
I agree I think they should have put the charging port either on the front side of the driver or the rear side of the driver and not the front bumper.
I’m much prefer my Cadillac lyric all-wheel-drive to the Genesis G80. I visited a genesis gallery here in meatpacking district New York City. It’s right next to Tesla, Rivian, Lucid, and Fisker.
The G80 is a decent car but it’s too small for my needs.
I do like that Hyundai decided to simply turn an existing car into an electric vehicle - something that I wish Mercedes would do with the S class. Unfortunately, unless you’re a Tesla, you suffer from the exact same problem at all other electric vehicles do: everybody else is charging network sucks.
Tesla is the best charging network.
More colabs!!! Great review guys
Great job! Roman and Alex together. 2 👍🏼👍🏼 and the car is awesome, too. Sign me up Genesis. I’ll trade in my hybrid eTron.
I love the crossover reviews!
Best part is the LC passing bye.
*by
4.4 second Lincoln Town car AWD EV.
I have an XJ8. It’s a dream car money pit. I’m not sold on this brand…it’s not a Jaguar.
That electric premium-luxury car is 😍😎👍🏼👌🏼😉.
There is a 0% chance there is real wood in that trim. You can tell right away it’s plastic (which is why even Roman said plastic trees)
Afternoon guys
This EV is what MB missed it. Hope MB took the note and make their EQ cars better quality.
If it the price drops down to $45k in 2yrs it be a great deal.
You guys should do more reviews together Alex is very technical
Genesis definitely offers a bit of value, but not as much as they used too. It’ll be interesting to see how they compare with more established brands in the future.
They don't offer anything but overpriced junk
Dudes over 50 love current Genesis design language.
It's Alex! I like TFL, but I love Alex, Sofyan, and Motormouth, and i know you all press junket it all over all together...
You are a smart combination😊
G80 ? 5100 lbs. CAR [waste Energy 2move it ] vs my 4500lbs 2001 Chevy Ext cab Truck ??? Whats More GREENER and Safer ?? or will hold its LONG TERM VALUE ?
These OVER Wt. Zero to 60mph race car EVs Are Way Too Dangerous for PUBLIC Use !!!
@@ZIGZAGBureauofInvestigation 2001 chevy truck in 20 years still going.....EV in 20 years...Worthless paper weight.
Idk why someone would get an EV version of an ICE car when they could get a GV60 with more modern styling that uses a dedicated EV chassis from the EV6
The same reason BMW makes both an X3 a the 540, completely different buyers
@@gregkramer5588 that’s fair, but I’m wondering who is the buyer for a papaw/mamaw style big luxury sedan that is also an EV conversion on an ICE frame/body
idk why anyone would get this terrible brand to begin with?
‘Built for Korea’? Actually built for the big ol US of A, these are way too large for typical Korean roads & parking spaces (or lack thereof).
Missing subwoofers , missing panoramic sunroof. No seat fold down. It’s really a rich retirement vehicle. Now the gas ones are bad ass
To multi-millionaires like these guys $80,000 IS painless.
I like the idea of an EV…as long as I’m charging at home.
Under 300 miles of range is not impressive. I need 400.
Whats more important is charging performance and infrastructure. Unfortunately to get those high numbers the car would cost much more and be heavier.
@CRABlife-iv6fv Yeah I think the future will consist of very high charging rates and better infrastructure.
especially for something cost 80K.
@@TotallyJoel Dream on.
I love it
I want a G80 or G90 so bad, EV or not
Sorry Roman, but 280 miles is not phenomenal. Not even close. In fact, any car with less than a 300 mi range is not ready for prime time, and I ignore completely. As far as I'm concerned, 300 mi is just the max range starting point.
@3:29 Anyway, at 6'4 and mostly legs, I know exactly what you're talking about in terms of the low seat. Because the battery placement raises the floors, that cause your knees to point up. That position becomes fatiguing after a while especially on a long day trip. That inherent design limitation is just another reason EV don't appeal to me.
Car reviewers need to disclose if they were paid to do this review and if anybody is reviewing the footage before it is posted. Even if nobody is it's nice to know.
This feels like they paid them to review this car, way too positive and almost no negative things even though there are plenty of negative things.
Heaven forbid something just be mostly good.
The world isn't a balancing act. Every vehicle, home, appliance, or any other product isn't going to have an equal amount of positives and negatives. That's not how reality works, and it doesn't mean people are paid off.
If there's a concern about the integrity then compare their review to other sources TSP, TH, SG, RR, KK, MM, or the legacies like MT, C&D, TG- there's countless. But I'm sorry to say you're going to see a similar conclusion almost anywhere. Genesis did a good job with this vehicle.
If the goal is to throw objectivity out the window and only see a bad review just search specifically for a video trashing it, or make one and publish it.
@@markcoopers1930 I just want to know either way and not have to watch a bunch of other reviews to confirm it or not
In Shaa Allah nasib qilsa olaman
80k for a hyundie? NO thanks
Lexus: 80k for a Toyota? No thanks!
Rolls Royce: 80k for a Mini? No thanks!
Acura: 80k for a Honda? No thanks!
Audi: 80k for a Volkswagen? No thanks!
Lincoln. 80k for a Ford? No thanks!
Your argument is stupid and it’s never worked. Anyone who understands even an elementary amount of how engineering works knows that too.
Cheers guys
Disappointed he did not mean Jeep XJ
This is my Marauder only better except in noise.
I love it’s design and look but having the charge port in the front is a bad idea with winter weather and ice and snow it’s asking for trouble. But if they gave me a good deal on this I would buy it ❤
Also, not a good place in case of accidents
Frunk? Why would you wanna use it? It’s so inconvenient place to open and close…LOL
Biggest pile of junk you can get... Just get a MUCH better Lexus
Prob one of the most cringy videos I've seen in awhile...
I’m not a fan of Lexus but that thing just came in and dumped on you and left.
If you have to use any charging network besides Tesla it's not going to be painless
Another gasoline car retrofitted to electric is a bad idea. I like Tesla and BYD approach of building ground up around an electric power train
I generally love your work but that title...