Anonymously What do you mean? The last Evolution vehicle only came out recently being the Mitsubishi Lancer X Final Edition, now they're focusing on family garbage like Pajeros, Tritons and ASX's. There will still be an occasional sporty car thrown in here and there however it won't feel the same as the Evolution series did.
Onyx The Mineral Well over here I got the Mitsubishi EVO 2015 MR, with those twin turbos I put shame on most BWMs Lambos and Muscle cars. 4 cylindre 370 hp custom on pirreli wheels
So is the state in 2021. But I think it high time Subaru should shower the impreza with a major overhaul. It is after all a dying breed of car with SUVs and compact UV/crossovers getting more attention.
Edgars Lazdins Mitsubishi realized it was the end and went out with honor. Subaru didn't care and started to make ugly ass sti's that can't compare with the old ones. So I argue Mitsubishi was smarter.
It's a WR1. It's special edition. 1 in 500. Less than 300 of which, are still running. The 18" wheels, Ice blue paint, make it stand out. The only thing separating it and an STi is the ecu, exhaust and brakes.
Yeah I get the feeling the DCCD controls were messed with because there was a ridiculous amount of understeer for AWD. Even still, the evo will always have better lap times but I would prefer to daily a STi for its more civilized nature
SGT Norgan ok they may have won more metals. its the drivers ya duesch not the car. subarus and evos were tested with the same person and the subaru always had the lead. think twice before you say something smh.
I drive a Lancer and I enjoyed this clip, but I feel the need to say I'm disappointed in this youtube channel. As much as recycling old Top Gear clips for essentially free income is a great business model, I, and many other subscribers I'm sure feel undersold by _The Stig_. When the trailers for this channel were released, they gave the impression that there was going to be some original productions made around The Stig himself completing new challenges and doing fun stuff for youtube. Instead this is just a dumping ground for things already seen and a place for BBC to pocket a little more beer money. If I didn't also happen to enjoy old, easy-to-digest TG clips now and then, I would have unsubscribed. Just know that I am mildly disgusted by what this channel has brought on.
Took the words right of my mouth. I hope they read your comment. Im sure they have the money to make new clips with the stig only but i expect theres some legalitys preventing them at the moment.
BBC is a business. They want to make as much money as possible. That's what businesses do. Anyone surprised or disgusted by this doesn't understand how the entire world works. It's just so transparent here that people are shocked.
I never understood how Subaru's sales of the STI outdid the EVO......EVEN THOUGH the Evo almost always beat out the subaru.....RIP EVO doesn't make much sense
Just because a car is faster then the other it doesn't mean that people will like it more... How could possibly you think that? Doesn't make much sense. Also that gen of Evo looks like such a girls car when it's stock imo.
Anonymously Actually you're wrong. The newest STI and EVO models maxed out in what they can get are around the same price, HOWEVER with limited kit the EVO is more expensive, the reason being Mitsubishi's MR transmission is adding another 2k due to its abilities and cost, but the GSR is around the same as the STI.
Lol your not missing out on anything. The lancer non turbo is your competition. And you have the better car since yours is awd. The only thing your rs and an sti share is the shell but everything else is different that's why it cost twice as much.
Maybe in the US...but in Europe, everybody prefers the Evo ! Many people who have Subaru just can't afford Mitsubishi since Evo is rarer and more expensive than Subaru !
Chris Williams I'm not a "Mitsubishi fan boy"... Just a petrolhead and Evo 7 owner !
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Mika Polak Where I live the evo isn't a particularly expensive car to run or buy and there seems to be more modern performance stuff about as opposed to Imprezas or evos, though I'd say late evos are marginally more of a common sight. No one would deny evos are astonishing performers If you want to go by cost, the ultimate 'factory special' version of any evo is no where near as expensive as the equivalent Impreza. Please understand though I'm not shit talking the evo in any way shape or form, they're also amazing machines. I forgot to say, I'm in the UK which still qualifies as Europe (for now at least.)
Chris Williams Indeed, in UK, Evos are not rare... Moreover, you had FQ-series ! But in France, it's not the same ! Evos 5, 6 and 7 are very rare in LHD cause Mitsubishi imported the Evo in Europe (except UK) only since 2004 with the Evo 8... And cars are a lot more expensive in France than in UK !
Mitsubishi thinks that the world loves SUVs while every true petrol/gearhead thinks they're the work of Satan. Anyways it's been said they want to focus on SUVs which deeply saddens me. They just killed off they're last sports car *cries a little*
Would be interesting to see the evoX against the '18 STi since it's had the suspension overhauled. Old STi's were understeer killers unfortunately. Would be a fair comparison since the STi still uses the EJ257.
The thing with these cars, to be driven to their maximum potential they need a different driving style especially the Subaru. I have driven both cars and they are a bit understeering INITIALLY and that is very true for the Subaru. The trick is to introduce a little bit of oversteer and then hold it with the throttle playing around with a 0 steering angle. Essentially you should not let the tyres roll into the corner in a progressive way as you do with most race cars but snap them into a corner. It is a tricky and counterintuitive thing to do but that's how you get the maximum from both of these cars. I remember the first time I drove an STi and I almost crashed it on the first right hander turn because of its inherent understeer because I went to drive it normally, I saved it and then snapped oversteered for the immediate left turn and was so much easier to control, then it dawned on me that my driving style had to adapt to the characteristics of the car and not the other way around. That being said the latest gens of Evo can be driven very close to their maximum potential even with a traditional driving style but from Evo 6 and before that is not true
You want a better car you pay for quality the Mitsubishi Evo is it. The only reason was Subaru outsold the Mitsubishi Evo is because more people could have afford the Subaru more than the Evo plus I think people just like the exhaust note of the Subaru More.
"Faster doesn't mean it's better". Well, one thing is being slower because the engine isn't as powerful, or there's more loss of power in the drivetrain. It's completely different when it's slower because it understeers like it has food trays under the front wheels. IT IS still a very capable rally car, but I can't imagine it understeering less than the EVO there either
For both of these all wheel drive rally style cars you need to turn into the apex later instead of diving into the turn almost touching the inside line/ edge of track and expect them to continue that line. All wheel drive cars have the fastest exiting speed when used correctly..... you can’t have a all wheel drive car built in 05 to have the technology to have a driver corner incorrectly but fix the drivers error by changing wheel spin and rpm to decrease understeer. Long story short, both cars are great, I just wish they had been driven through the apex correctly to increase lap times.
The ej257 makes power all the way to red line. Down low the sti is not that good. You're thinking of the 2.0 from the WRX that is great down low but shitty up top.
Oh absolutely! I imported a 2004 WRX STI from Japan last year! I love the sound of the boxer and exhaust! Plus the japan version (even though JDM has less ccm than the european version) is less stiff and takes off a lot faster than the ones we can get here in germany! I love this car and can definitely recommend to anyone: get a JDM Blobeye WRX STI! Awesome car!
The Mitsubishi looks better to me than the impreza but sadly it has been discontinued. But there is hope for it as Mitsubishi claims that they are going to revive it as an EV
Big fan of both cars and I’m not saying the Subaru is inherently better, but that statement at the end “This is the faster car, so the Mitsubishi is the better car.” is just an outright false thing to say no matter what two cars you are talking about.
The evo IX is newer than the blob eye. They should have raced the hawk eye. The hawk eye is faster. Not that it matters. These guys are biased. They even made a commercial for the evo x saying that it is built in England.
@@username8644 if you pause on some of the hard turns you can see that the suspension of the evo is far superior. Way less understeer and body roll. Not sure how that translates to rally, but i imagine it would yeild similar results.
10k on your hand mitsubishi Evo 800hp. Subaru Sti 500hp another reason why mitsubishi is better. I like how people buy Subarus just because of the cool sound it makes. Mitsubishi is clearly better and it sucks it got discontinued because all the boys like that Subaru rumble and not actual speed.
Your average joe doesnt need 800hp. Fact is most of them are happy stock form. But they cant tolerate a chinese plastic interior. Goodbye evo. You will be missed.
+Voxel8or Because they clearly underestimate the Impreza (not only here,but everytime they have talked about that car). The Impreza is one of the most glorious 4WDs of all times and a 3 times WRC champion car!
+Alex Bakhmayer On a track probably the skyline. On a drag strip with the same amount of power not sure really, but I would actually think the skyline. On a drag strip with as much power as you can build it the Supra.
+Alex Bakhmayer so as the RB26DETT. Remember that the true rival of the Supra is the Honda Nsx and the Mitsubishi 3000Gt. The Skyline GT-R was a far more superior car in matters of technology and performance, the top spec could hit 320 km/h and 0-100 in less than 4 seconds, while the Supra's top speed is between 250-260 km/h and 0-100 in 5.1 secs. Don't get me wrong, I adore both cars, but in matters of racing performance I believe the Skyline is superior.
I own a chip tuned evo x at 354hp since four years and despite the higher stress on the parts from the tuning and the fact that I drive it as my everydays car (as well as track every now and then), I had not a single issue with it. Not a single issue over 45'000km. Now you tell me about its reliability....
Yea my sti has 270000mi on it and never had a problem not saying I don't think evos aren't reliable i love both of them. But my sti is stage 1 tuned and goes to the track on a monthly basis. Both cars are very reliable unless you throw 700-900 hp at it. Still then you can get a bit of time out of them.
disliking the bloody video isn't going to change anything people, wake up, just enjoy what we have left of top gear...These random vids and rewatching the old episodes. Don't ruin it for everyone else
so many ignorant people on here, most of which have never driven either car. i have driven both though i can agree with this video the WRX understeers horrendously , the EVO is a much much better driving machine from factory feels like a racecar for the road and i ended up buying one over the WRX for that reason. oh and the fact every man and his dog owns an STI that massively put me off too. the EVO is more of a japanese exotic car, rare beast from the east and much better road presence than the subaru. however the subaru isn't a bad car its actually very good but is no match unless in at least a 'SPEC C trim' to be up there with the EVO.. each to there own though
As someone who isn’t into Japanese at all, Subarus have always seemed boring but Evos are kinda cool. And the fact that the Sub was slower than the OLD Evo tells me everything I need to know.
I think he drove the subaru wrong. Now the EVO obviously has better handling, however, I feel as though the driver here, after having just driven the EVO, was trying to break his record by driving the subaru the way he was driving the EVO. You can't drive it exactly the same. You can't use the exact same peddling. He learned the EVO well. He did not learn the subaru well. Of course it has more under steer.. that's why you don't floor it around the corners like that. I don't think he used very good lines with the subaru bc he was trying to make it be exactly like the EVO.
***** Well maybe so. but not this year. My WRX factory 2016 has torque vectoring that puts all the torque on the outside wheels in a turn. It's truly amazing.
I cannot fathom why they stopped producing the evo. Why wouldn't you just modernize the interior of the car, keep the same aggressive bulky body we all know and love and give us a similar engine. We would have been happy. Why kill off a legendary car?
I like the Lancer Evo. the most because it's easier to tune and can expand the engine better. As for the Impreza, when you tune the engine it runs fast. But there aren't many engine accessories like the Lancer Evo.
Sam Games-Spencer oh no the eco is slightly faster. But which one has a better rally/ race heritage, better engine and is still being produced , welp its not the evo
@@Swrvn you're high on glue. Tommy vs Colin. 4 championships for Tommy, 3 for Colin. Tommy won one race in a Subaru, no championships. If "better engine" means class action lawsuit ringland failure, Subaru can have that trophy. Any Subaru owner I know, love Evo's because they're not idiots. Same goes with Evo owners, nothing bad to say about Subaru's...until someone like yourself starts spewing bullshit.
And technically neither is a tuned up version of the Evo. The Type 25 is actually built by a company as a specific spec from inported shells and built from the ground up using uprated compoments (they don't take an existing car and modify it) so it is actually classed as a very low production vehicle in its own right. So my point is miles from invalid.
selectacatergory "By a company" you mean Litchfield. And no, its still a modified car. The Evo FQ comes directly from the factory since Ralliart is a Mitsubishi subsidary.
sometimes it's the driver who creates understeer ....plus my opinion is that the subaru is the better care....over the course of its rally time from 1998 -2005 it's pick up 46 wins and the evo only 24...also the suspension is better on the subject look it up please😀😁😁😁😁😁🏁🏁🏁🏁🏁🏁
My dads got the wr1 and by the way that Mitsubishi has been modified you can tell because the intercooler has been moved to the front when it’s supposed to be under the bonnet
The driver got accustomed to the evo and tried to drive the STI like the evo and that is a mistake! The are both great cars but handling is different between these two! The dccd setting should have been completely set to rear and it wouldn't have been so far behind... trust me, I have driven both and after all, I love my subaru but still love both cars for their own 'personalities'
Impreza and Lancer always wrestling each other like competing brothers. They may be fight and taunt each other but at the end of the day they sleep in the same room. Like brothers.
There's only one reason the WRX is better imo, Count how many videos of an evo having a blown engine, then compare it to the numbers of videos of WRX's blowing their engines. Thats just one of the reasons why the WRX is better imo
They stopped it for the same reason toyota stopped the supra... it is a flagship car, they do not expect to make money off them... just a mark for their legacy.
Sound is mostly a point of exhaust, not engine. You can get every car to sound good if you know what you're doing... Not even to mention that they pretty much both have the same 2 L four-cylinder engine (although Subaru has some more variation on displacement). Just because one has a inline four design while the other is a flat four design doesn't change it that much.
Bs the new ones are ugly get your cars right I have a 2004 limited white wrx with power everything and a jdm motor swap.lets try doing a rally test.its a 13 yr old car that beats new mustangs on a daily .mine beats new age stis all day.
I owned them both. Bone stock, the evo is clearly faster around a track and handles way better. There’s no denying that. A good set of coilovers are mandatory on a scoob if you want it to be really fast around corners.
The sti was only slower because they forgot to put the sti fog light covers on
duh the covers give it 10 more horse power
+mama bear that's the joke, mate
no, it gives it 117hp more
Byron Finkelstein no the only reason why the subi lost was they didn’t have it in the right blue and now fog light covers🙄🙄🙄
Thanks for this tip
I don't care which one is faster I love both of them.
Hakasauars don't be so sarcastic.
So?
calm down little kid
Shut up bitch.
Hakasauars real car enthusiasts won't hate on any car... unless is a Prius
Those were the Golden times.. For top gear and JDM fans.
So agree with you
Seems like car design was so much better 10-15 years ago
Diecast Drifters I agree with you
Cuz they were
Tell me about it car these day are so fugly even the new supra facepalm
R.I.P Evolution series.
and Top Gear
Onyx The Mineral WTF those are like 10 yo cars
Anonymously What do you mean? The last Evolution vehicle only came out recently being the Mitsubishi Lancer X Final Edition, now they're focusing on family garbage like Pajeros, Tritons and ASX's. There will still be an occasional sporty car thrown in here and there however it won't feel the same as the Evolution series did.
Onyx The Mineral Well over here I got the Mitsubishi EVO 2015 MR, with those twin turbos I put shame on most BWMs Lambos and Muscle cars. 4 cylindre 370 hp custom on pirreli wheels
Anonymously Right. 10 year old cars when the 1st Evo was made over 20 years ago.
Evos are red
Subies are blue
But it doesnt matter
Because both go stututututu
It's 2019 & I'm still yearning for that old feud of Evo & Impreza
Hendra Gunawan better be on side Subaru
So is the state in 2021. But I think it high time Subaru should shower the impreza with a major overhaul. It is after all a dying breed of car with SUVs and compact UV/crossovers getting more attention.
Roses are red
Sky is blue
Subie is still in pruduction
Evo where are you ?
Don't make me cry
It was too good😢
On the track with other performance cars still kicking STI’s til this day!
We're aprecatiing like mad earning our owners money by sat in the garage .
Edgars Lazdins Mitsubishi realized it was the end and went out with honor. Subaru didn't care and started to make ugly ass sti's that can't compare with the old ones. So I argue Mitsubishi was smarter.
Where did they find an STi in that colour?
It's a WR1. It's special edition. 1 in 500. Less than 300 of which, are still running. The 18" wheels, Ice blue paint, make it stand out. The only thing separating it and an STi is the ecu, exhaust and brakes.
320 hp factory also
Only uk market
Justin Time ohh sorry
DW Gaming and neighbourhood🇨🇦
Why can't ppl just appreciate both cars for what they are. Both cars are great however I lean more towards the Evolution VIII, it's just preference.
People appreciate both of them but evo is just better.
Because rivelry and competition accelrate progess
Zip tie u wise ass
I really like both of them, but i'm more of a subaru person.
@dr.bandit i put a potato on the dash of my wrx wagon
Yeah I get the feeling the DCCD controls were messed with because there was a ridiculous amount of understeer for AWD. Even still, the evo will always have better lap times but I would prefer to daily a STi for its more civilized nature
Mitsubishis are better track cars, but Subarus are better rally cars
pokemaster123ism is that why Mitsubishi have won more championships then subaru
SGT Norgan ok they may have won more metals. its the drivers ya duesch not the car. subarus and evos were tested with the same person and the subaru always had the lead. think twice before you say something smh.
CHRONIX learn to spell and use grammar
SGT Norgan im not american u tard i speak and type all asian and i have very little english grammar training. please pespect people.
Actually Mitsu has AYC suspension (worth on rally) so i assume its better technically ... but theyre both great :)
I am an impreza fan
The evo is much better on the track ,but lets take it out of the track and go to mountain roads,gravel,snow,mud
the evo would destroy it there too?
Most tests ive seen the Evo wins there too, surprisingly, the subaru has worse suspension, allowing the Evo to go on rougher roads
worse suspension? the evo have all the electronics the AYC and ACD soooo i don´t know who´s really driving the car anyways
Michael Zhang omg hahahaha ure so much win
George Coman 😂😂Yeah STI also has better fuel economy
Love how the STI sounds, love how the Evo drives.
Those sexy rumble. Damn.
I drive a Lancer and I enjoyed this clip, but I feel the need to say I'm disappointed in this youtube channel.
As much as recycling old Top Gear clips for essentially free income is a great business model, I, and many other subscribers I'm sure feel undersold by _The Stig_.
When the trailers for this channel were released, they gave the impression that there was going to be some original productions made around The Stig himself completing new challenges and doing fun stuff for youtube. Instead this is just a dumping ground for things already seen and a place for BBC to pocket a little more beer money.
If I didn't also happen to enjoy old, easy-to-digest TG clips now and then, I would have unsubscribed. Just know that I am mildly disgusted by what this channel has brought on.
Took the words right of my mouth. I hope they read your comment. Im sure they have the money to make new clips with the stig only but i expect theres some legalitys preventing them at the moment.
BBC is a business. They want to make as much money as possible. That's what businesses do. Anyone surprised or disgusted by this doesn't understand how the entire world works. It's just so transparent here that people are shocked.
Atleast its for beer
Why do you care. Its useful for me because my tv connection is bad
I never understood how Subaru's sales of the STI outdid the EVO......EVEN THOUGH the Evo almost always beat out the subaru.....RIP EVO
doesn't make much sense
Just because a car is faster then the other it doesn't mean that people will like it more...
How could possibly you think that? Doesn't make much sense.
Also that gen of Evo looks like such a girls car when it's stock imo.
Lukas19360 And the Subaru doesn't? What are you smoking?
Brice Milleson Isn't the EVO more expensive than STI?
Somethingafw No it's quite the opposite actually, plus the evo has a good 5-10 year guarantee depending on your region/model!
Anonymously Actually you're wrong.
The newest STI and EVO models maxed out in what they can get are around the same price, HOWEVER with limited kit the EVO is more expensive, the reason being Mitsubishi's MR transmission is adding another 2k due to its abilities and cost, but the GSR is around the same as the STI.
lol all the 'boys' clicking dislike
so the owner put cheap tyres on then?
Chris Williams but iv had a subaru and loved it :D im a boy who laughed at something on topgear. to they got a thumbs up :)
Harrier
Still have mine :P
No one's going to argue though that the evo's a belting machine, as is the Impreza
Chris Williams i do want to try a evo. bit of a honda man at the moment :D
Harrier
Can't fault you! what Honda? I really fancy an evo 7 or 8!
Good things doesn't live forever like the evo and the Topgear!
RIP
Yes of course this gets shown to me after I just bought a blobeye RS
implying that you'd have got an Evo instead of a non-turbo? lololol
Lol your not missing out on anything. The lancer non turbo is your competition. And you have the better car since yours is awd. The only thing your rs and an sti share is the shell but everything else is different that's why it cost twice as much.
@Bitterman I'm an apprentice mechanic. Anything that costs money brakes my bank
I would be interested to see a “rally like” test
Exactly the subaru isnt a track car its a rally car. Big difference
That ship has sailed
Why 95% of owners would never rally their car
You need real rally drivers to drive them, a track driver such as the stig cannot adjust easily to that style of driving
@@christoforospaphitis4090 You know nothing of the Stig right?
ruclips.net/video/jZ1_eiW0Hrs/видео.html
Subaru fans be like :
NOOOO GOD
No GOD PLEASE NO
NOO
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I like the Subie a bit more. This is coming from an unbiased opinion
Virux lol
A witty joke i must say :D
I'm pretty sure they switched the DCCD controls for the STI into lock making it understeer, it should be in a rear biased setting for this track
top gear has a history of shitting all over subaru. Jeremy clarkson hates subaru, so naturally, top gear paints them in a terrible light.
While May absolutely loves them. (correct me if i'm wrong)
They didn't mention the diff setting, did they? That's what I was thinking.
Wrong. When they tested the original 8 and blob eye, both Clarkson and Hammond said they’ve always preferred the Scooby.
this STI doesn't have the DCCD, DCCD on blob is available only with the "wide track" version ;)
Faster doesn't mean it's better car. I love them both but most people still prefer Subie over Mitsu.
Maybe in the US...but in Europe, everybody prefers the Evo ! Many people who have Subaru just can't afford Mitsubishi since Evo is rarer and more expensive than Subaru !
I prefer Mitsubishi
Chris Williams I'm not a "Mitsubishi fan boy"... Just a petrolhead and Evo 7 owner !
Mika Polak
Where I live the evo isn't a particularly expensive car to run or buy and there seems to be more modern performance stuff about as opposed to Imprezas or evos, though I'd say late evos are marginally more of a common sight. No one would deny evos are astonishing performers
If you want to go by cost, the ultimate 'factory special' version of any evo is no where near as expensive as the equivalent Impreza.
Please understand though I'm not shit talking the evo in any way shape or form, they're also amazing machines.
I forgot to say, I'm in the UK which still qualifies as Europe (for now at least.)
Chris Williams Indeed, in UK, Evos are not rare... Moreover, you had FQ-series ! But in France, it's not the same ! Evos 5, 6 and 7 are very rare in LHD cause Mitsubishi imported the Evo in Europe (except UK) only since 2004 with the Evo 8... And cars are a lot more expensive in France than in UK !
Mitsubishi killed Evo. What a shame. :(
:/ seriously
rjhocky Yep. They planning to make hybrid SUV and call it Evo successor. Which is pathetic.
TPBeastt
Dear god. That's just putting salt on the wound.
suckmysilencer747 totally. That's an insult to Evo name.
Mitsubishi thinks that the world loves SUVs while every true petrol/gearhead thinks they're the work of Satan. Anyways it's been said they want to focus on SUVs which deeply saddens me. They just killed off they're last sports car *cries a little*
I've got a bugeye wagon and I can definitely vouch for the understeer it's aweful
buy 24mm rear stab and you'll forget what understeer is
Would be interesting to see the evoX against the '18 STi since it's had the suspension overhauled. Old STi's were understeer killers unfortunately. Would be a fair comparison since the STi still uses the EJ257.
The thing with these cars, to be driven to their maximum potential they need a different driving style especially the Subaru. I have driven both cars and they are a bit understeering INITIALLY and that is very true for the Subaru. The trick is to introduce a little bit of oversteer and then hold it with the throttle playing around with a 0 steering angle. Essentially you should not let the tyres roll into the corner in a progressive way as you do with most race cars but snap them into a corner. It is a tricky and counterintuitive thing to do but that's how you get the maximum from both of these cars. I remember the first time I drove an STi and I almost crashed it on the first right hander turn because of its inherent understeer because I went to drive it normally, I saved it and then snapped oversteered for the immediate left turn and was so much easier to control, then it dawned on me that my driving style had to adapt to the characteristics of the car and not the other way around. That being said the latest gens of Evo can be driven very close to their maximum potential even with a traditional driving style but from Evo 6 and before that is not true
You want a better car you pay for quality the Mitsubishi Evo is it. The only reason was Subaru outsold the Mitsubishi Evo is because more people could have afford the Subaru more than the Evo plus I think people just like the exhaust note of the Subaru More.
I think they had a better add campaign..I'm in Washington and its subie nation up here lol
"Faster doesn't mean it's better". Well, one thing is being slower because the engine isn't as powerful, or there's more loss of power in the drivetrain. It's completely different when it's slower because it understeers like it has food trays under the front wheels. IT IS still a very capable rally car, but I can't imagine it understeering less than the EVO there either
I love both in the end!
But for how long will it be faster until it breaks?
Nah, I love em both, though I am a little biased toward the Evo...
For both of these all wheel drive rally style cars you need to turn into the apex later instead of diving into the turn almost touching the inside line/ edge of track and expect them to continue that line. All wheel drive cars have the fastest exiting speed when used correctly..... you can’t have a all wheel drive car built in 05 to have the technology to have a driver corner incorrectly but fix the drivers error by changing wheel spin and rpm to decrease understeer. Long story short, both cars are great, I just wish they had been driven through the apex correctly to increase lap times.
I was looking for this comment
I know, this comment is old but: Finally someone with a brain here.
I could rewatch this over and over. The long question answered best part is that the Stig drove so you can't complain. :)
Subaru- lower rpm, quicker acceleration, boxer engine turbocharged.
Mitsubishi- higher rpm, 4G6 or 4D6 four cylinder DOHC engine turbocharged.
The ej257 makes power all the way to red line. Down low the sti is not that good.
You're thinking of the 2.0 from the WRX that is great down low but shitty up top.
Mitsubishi evo only came with 4g63s my dude. 🤣
Honestly if the DCCD controls were set up correctly, the STi would likely tie with the Evo, or quite possibly beat it.
These cars are made for rally not for street
Jan Müllner rally is not only on the dirt lots of stages are tarmac too
Both of them are works of art. But id go for the Evo 😍😍
I still take sti for its look and exhaust sounds lol
Oh absolutely! I imported a 2004 WRX STI from Japan last year! I love the sound of the boxer and exhaust! Plus the japan version (even though JDM has less ccm than the european version) is less stiff and takes off a lot faster than the ones we can get here in germany!
I love this car and can definitely recommend to anyone: get a JDM Blobeye WRX STI! Awesome car!
I still take evo over slowbaru
@@moioyoyo848 what about not ranting over other cars? Since the japanese STi of that year has nearly the same top speed as the evo ;)
@@gecko2.617 why are we here? O.o Also, the boxer sounds glorious.
Looks? Evo looks better. Exhaust note, yes WRX wins that one.
The Mitsubishi looks better to me than the impreza but sadly it has been discontinued. But there is hope for it as Mitsubishi claims that they are going to revive it as an EV
Good Riddance
Both fabulous high performance cars, going up in value by the week these days 😎😎
Big fan of both cars and I’m not saying the Subaru is inherently better, but that statement at the end “This is the faster car, so the Mitsubishi is the better car.” is just an outright false thing to say no matter what two cars you are talking about.
1k likes and 982 dislikes so evo and STI fans are almost even
Risang Adityastama not every STI fan has disliked I’m pretty sure
@@rom.c.40 then who is then? The v8s fanboys?
LEGEND 25 I’m just saying not everyone’s a butthurt baby over a video
@@legend2533 The video came out soon after the news of Clarkson getting fired, so mostly Clarkson fanboys
This was sort of like a mid 2000’s equivalent to the Mustang vs. Camaro argument of the late ‘60’s.
impreza never caught evo on performance up until now. too bad
True
Not sure it did. Evo X fq400 i think is faster than any STI.
@@octaviangeorge5455 i think he meant its out of production so Its now faster haha
The evo IX is newer than the blob eye. They should have raced the hawk eye. The hawk eye is faster.
Not that it matters. These guys are biased.
They even made a commercial for the evo x saying that it is built in England.
Dexter Wallace good point, I loved both my 2006 STI’s...god I miss those cars.
My eyes hurts when I see Subaru trying to turn corner. 🤣🤣🤣
Love both of them
Sheeshe, the handling on that evo is just insane. Especially when you watch the subaru run.
@@username8644 if you pause on some of the hard turns you can see that the suspension of the evo is far superior. Way less understeer and body roll. Not sure how that translates to rally, but i imagine it would yeild similar results.
@@username8644 i didnt know that about the wrx/sti. Pretty cool. Maybe youre right!
The pro drive series stoked me...you have to know how to accelerate in and out of bends, it has brutal power!
10k on your hand mitsubishi Evo 800hp. Subaru Sti 500hp another reason why mitsubishi is better. I like how people buy Subarus just because of the cool sound it makes. Mitsubishi is clearly better and it sucks it got discontinued because all the boys like that Subaru rumble and not actual speed.
Your average joe doesnt need 800hp. Fact is most of them are happy stock form. But they cant tolerate a chinese plastic interior. Goodbye evo. You will be missed.
@@lllowelll the evo is coming back in electric form
Always been a fan of both. I love my eclipse and evolutions though.
A storms a comin.....
Ever since the Evo went out of production, the value of my MR Mk8 has almost tripled! Well played Mitsubishi.
BRING BACK TOPGEAR
Nice comparison.. I really wish we'd get to see Top Gear as it was.. but I guess that's difficult to happen :(
Bring back the evolution !!
No
This has been proven with other sources. Evo has always been the better rally car.
Why are there so many dislikes?
hmm i wonder why...
Voxel8or cause bbc is still making money off people they fired
Voxel8or Cuz Impreza is Better ^^ , everybody knows it , but not every body can declare it!
+Voxel8or Because they clearly underestimate the Impreza (not only here,but everytime they have talked about that car). The Impreza is one of the most glorious 4WDs of all times and a 3 times WRC champion car!
Diamonds are forever, stars eventually explode and die.
Not laughing.
Supra vs skyline ?
+Alex Bakhmayer On a track probably the skyline. On a drag strip with the same amount of power not sure really, but I would actually think the skyline. On a drag strip with as much power as you can build it the Supra.
Supra's eat skylines for breakfast . What are you on about ? The 2JZ is a masterpiece .
+Alex Bakhmayer so as the RB26DETT. Remember that the true rival of the Supra is the Honda Nsx and the Mitsubishi 3000Gt. The Skyline GT-R was a far more superior car in matters of technology and performance, the top spec could hit 320 km/h and 0-100 in less than 4 seconds, while the Supra's top speed is between 250-260 km/h and 0-100 in 5.1 secs. Don't get me wrong, I adore both cars, but in matters of racing performance I believe the Skyline is superior.
Holden vs ford . World war 3 in Australia
Haha. Suburb fans bums are burning. Mitsubishi is a mans car
Which one is more reliable?
subie
I own a chip tuned evo x at 354hp since four years and despite the higher stress on the parts from the tuning and the fact that I drive it as my everydays car (as well as track every now and then), I had not a single issue with it.
Not a single issue over 45'000km.
Now you tell me about its reliability....
Hmm okay, I'm sure they're both just as reliable. Subaru does have some great reputation with their cars
Bitch please, what about a merc E-190 2.5 with 1 million km.
Yea my sti has 270000mi on it and never had a problem not saying I don't think evos aren't reliable i love both of them. But my sti is stage 1 tuned and goes to the track on a monthly basis. Both cars are very reliable unless you throw 700-900 hp at it. Still then you can get a bit of time out of them.
disliking the bloody video isn't going to change anything people, wake up, just enjoy what we have left of top gear...These random vids and rewatching the old episodes. Don't ruin it for everyone else
so many ignorant people on here, most of which have never driven either car. i have driven both though i can agree with this video the WRX understeers horrendously , the EVO is a much much better driving machine from factory feels like a racecar for the road and i ended up buying one over the WRX for that reason. oh and the fact every man and his dog owns an STI that massively put me off too. the EVO is more of a japanese exotic car, rare beast from the east and much better road presence than the subaru. however the subaru isn't a bad car its actually very good but is no match unless in at least a 'SPEC C trim' to be up there with the EVO.. each to there own though
KERNOW88 lel if u want a car for the road buy whatever u want BUT if u wanna go everywhere buy Subie
@@moonsapling
Nigga I can tell you any type of cars you can bring everywhere than just getting a Subaru.
Typical subie kids.
As someone who isn’t into Japanese at all, Subarus have always seemed boring but Evos are kinda cool. And the fact that the Sub was slower than the OLD Evo tells me everything I need to know.
bring back top gear or else. im warning you BBC.
colj001 just watch grand tour the same people are doing it
"People"... Just "people"...
Old school, rip them days
Evo can win on asphalt. But I'd like to see both of them racing on off-road.
agreed!!!!!!
DinoNerd evo's still faster lmao
Why.. you like seeing subaru getting rolled in two different scenarios?
Algún campeonato de rally ganó más que el subaru
Why would you drive a road car off-road?
The suspension in both of these cars is not set-up for anything other than tarmac.
That shape of Evo looks better than the Evo 10.
What episode is this from?
Before I even finished the video I couldn’t wait to read some comments 😂
I think he drove the subaru wrong. Now the EVO obviously has better handling, however, I feel as though the driver here, after having just driven the EVO, was trying to break his record by driving the subaru the way he was driving the EVO. You can't drive it exactly the same. You can't use the exact same peddling. He learned the EVO well. He did not learn the subaru well. Of course it has more under steer.. that's why you don't floor it around the corners like that. I don't think he used very good lines with the subaru bc he was trying to make it be exactly like the EVO.
+Whale Waileer you can put a professional forklift driver in a McLaren F1
+Whale Waileer I make sense but you don't comprehend.
***** No, I'm saying.. maybe it was a calculated maneuver dictated by money or alliances.
***** Well maybe so. but not this year. My WRX factory 2016 has torque vectoring that puts all the torque on the outside wheels in a turn. It's truly amazing.
+Cam Hendricks well the Evo has computers to correct it and the Subaru doesn't. So yes, two cars shouldn't be driven the same.
I cannot fathom why they stopped producing the evo. Why wouldn't you just modernize the interior of the car, keep the same aggressive bulky body we all know and love and give us a similar engine. We would have been happy. Why kill off a legendary car?
Deimos Low sales
Yep low sales.
I could sense the tears of the Subaru fanboys, I can almost taste it...
Evo, STI, Mazdapeed, SRT4 and among others. The golden years for sure!
The Lancer is MR version which is better thn gsr, and the sti isnt a spec c , lighter an fast
I like the Lancer Evo. the most because it's easier to tune and can expand the engine better. As for the Impreza, when you tune the engine it runs fast. But there aren't many engine accessories like the Lancer Evo.
lol Que the angry STI fan boys.
no actually its the BMW, Mercedes and Audi fanboys who are pissed here, and you seem like one too lol
when i was younger i really wanted a WRX,but now i know that you have to take the heads off,check valves,new belt etc.. on every 50 000km !!!
You put diesel on your wrx?
1.7k butt hurt subaru fans who picked the wrong car.
Sam Games-Spencer oh no the eco is slightly faster. But which one has a better rally/ race heritage, better engine and is still being produced , welp its not the evo
@@Swrvn you're high on glue. Tommy vs Colin. 4 championships for Tommy, 3 for Colin. Tommy won one race in a Subaru, no championships. If "better engine" means class action lawsuit ringland failure, Subaru can have that trophy. Any Subaru owner I know, love Evo's because they're not idiots. Same goes with Evo owners, nothing bad to say about Subaru's...until someone like yourself starts spewing bullshit.
the subaru was still more aimed at rally and the evo at street could explain the massive bodyroll and understeer.
everyone forgot the spec c sti it will leave the evo fq320 in dust
piyush Gadekar sure it will 😂😂😂 sour cause no power 😂😂
Until the Spec C meets the FQ360.
Its not factory stock.. So invalid.
And technically neither is a tuned up version of the Evo.
The Type 25 is actually built by a company as a specific spec from inported shells and built from the ground up using uprated compoments (they don't take an existing car and modify it) so it is actually classed as a very low production vehicle in its own right. So my point is miles from invalid.
selectacatergory "By a company" you mean Litchfield. And no, its still a modified car. The Evo FQ comes directly from the factory since Ralliart is a Mitsubishi subsidary.
Both great cars
the wr1 scooby had a diff lock as Japanese spec scoobys do so to me the car was set up in the wrong mode to understeer
sometimes it's the driver who creates understeer ....plus my opinion is that the subaru is the better care....over the course of its rally time from 1998 -2005 it's pick up 46 wins and the evo only 24...also the suspension is better on the subject look it up please😀😁😁😁😁😁🏁🏁🏁🏁🏁🏁
because mitsubishi stuck with the group a ruling opposed to the wrc ruling therefore meaning the cars were closer to road car spec
bullshit detected.
Rally cars are rally cars. They put the best of what they can on those cars and no where close to "road car" spec.
TEETEE BIRD no it isnt. Mitsubishi had stuck with the old ruling and didn't make the changes to the new ruling. Read up on it sweetness
My dads got the wr1 and by the way that Mitsubishi has been modified you can tell because the intercooler has been moved to the front when it’s supposed to be under the bonnet
NO NO NO i dont accept these results
The driver got accustomed to the evo and tried to drive the STI like the evo and that is a mistake! The are both great cars but handling is different between these two! The dccd setting should have been completely set to rear and it wouldn't have been so far behind... trust me, I have driven both and after all, I love my subaru but still love both cars for their own 'personalities'
Impreza and Lancer always wrestling each other like competing brothers. They may be fight and taunt each other but at the end of the day they sleep in the same room. Like brothers.
Mitsubishi is faster subaru is stronger
That dosent make any sence
There's only one reason the WRX is better imo, Count how many videos of an evo having a blown engine, then compare it to the numbers of videos of WRX's blowing their engines. Thats just one of the reasons why the WRX is better imo
well evo is dead soooo
And still the dead beats the shit out of STIs. 😂
So what? Just because it's dead doesn't mean it's a bad car. I like both cars and neither of them are horrible.
I'm a Subaru enthusiast, but I still like that Mitsubishi and I would like to see the Subaru do the same test again with new tires.
Subaru = unreliable engines, piss weak gearboxes, floppy chassis and a terrible sound
Really? it sounds better than your mom moaning!
@@lemarseillais514 yes even his mom sounds better than a piece of shit subaru
@@FID3R peace of shit? your English is so good!
@@lemarseillais514 autocorrect obviously still a bad engine though ;)
@@FID3R Lame excuse.. I ain't suprised if your English is bad hahahah
They cut the part where they say they prefer to own the STi over the Evo.
Yeah thats why Mitsubishi stopped the EVO line,, piece of overheat $hit
They stopped it for the same reason toyota stopped the supra... it is a flagship car, they do not expect to make money off them... just a mark for their legacy.
Someone’s triggered lol
Did McLaren stop the F1 and Ferrari stop the F40 because they were $hit???
Mad cause it shits all over subarus.
Evo life all day, everyday!
My dad had that WR1 is special one of impreza was good car but I prefer the P1 Subaru
but the evo sounds absolute bullshit. the sti sounds million times better and it is million times better
the Evo sounds sweet
ikr..the evo sounds like something from Grand Turismo
Sound is mostly a point of exhaust, not engine. You can get every car to sound good if you know what you're doing...
Not even to mention that they pretty much both have the same 2 L four-cylinder engine (although Subaru has some more variation on displacement). Just because one has a inline four design while the other is a flat four design doesn't change it that much.
Mosdager faster doesnt mean better, for example the subie looks better
jaakko200987654321 no it doesn't lol
Can't kill the 4G63. You can run over 700hp with stock bottom end, unlike the EJ25 that can't exceed 480hp without having a closed deck
2003-4, wow. That Subaru is so ugly today.
I remember watching this live.
Andrew Bulman the EVO still looks great though.
Andrew Bulman blob eye is the best scooby
how can u call it ugly
MrTURBOJOHN Yeah, not so much from the back
hawkeye and the gc8 are better IMO but ye blob eye is definitly a top contender
Bs the new ones are ugly get your cars right I have a 2004 limited white wrx with power everything and a jdm motor swap.lets try doing a rally test.its a 13 yr old car that beats new mustangs on a daily .mine beats new age stis all day.
I owned them both. Bone stock, the evo is clearly faster around a track and handles way better. There’s no denying that. A good set of coilovers are mandatory on a scoob if you want it to be really fast around corners.