Tom i use to watch you when you was an electrician working by yourself, grabbing a cuppa and getting your van washed once in a while and its so nice seeing you come so far in the industry your in. Massive respect to you mate!
I work in Streetlighting and it's nice to see other's seeing how much of a ballache Traffic Management is! 3Cones and an Arrow will nearly always be sufficient on a 30mph road, I can convert 30+ streetlights to LED a day following this rule. If you're lone working, you can purchase lone working devices that automatically ring through to your office if it thinks you've fallen or had an accident. (:
When working alone (different job to yours) we had to phone in at the start and end to confirm we were OK, if it wasn't a short task then we had to call in at a set period. The task wasn't high risk and our personal health wasn't expected to be a factor. Probably more if we didn't call in someone else would be sent to finish the task..... In your case move the truck.. Lol
Tom, you're looking at the wrong page in the red book. The set up you are looking at is for diversion of pedestrians into the carriageway, thats not required if you can leave 1.5m of footpath open (can go down to 1m) Try page 83 onwards, mobile or short duration works. The 30 mins you refer to applies to Scotland
With regards to drilling through things and street furniture/cables/etc, always always always get a services map and do a quick confirmatory cat scan if you have to break ground and you're not familiar with what's going on. Also if you ask someone about services/utilities and they say there's none there and you don't need to worry about it, get it in writing. Especially for fibre optics; breaking a fibre run can very quickly lead to a huge bill for whoever the buck stops at, and writing from someone saying 'don't worry about checking' will save either you or your insurance premiums.
The 30 mins for TM thing is only for emergency or transient works. You should be booking road space with the local authority for anything more than this (otherwise it’s illegal).
The hand dryer is just tripping its own overheat switch. Basically, it overheats. Next time check if it has a thermal regulator in the circuit or on the back of the dryer, though for £30, I doubt there is one...
Was getting up to date on the latest Nagy adventures, and this notification dings through! Excellent! Loving these longer format multi day vids Tom. Keep up the great work.
You probably know this Tom but you are not allowed to set RWG up at busy times. at my company we have a database we check and it tells us the time the council say no Roadworks during rush hour or between 7:00am - 9:00am. also you have to leave 6.75m road width for give and take (check the red book) if its not possible like on that road you showed, you need a permit from the council.
I'm getting a bit old to remember all the details, but I feel sure that it is against Regs to put in an internal supply as a TNCS supply. For the obvious reason that if the neutral between the incomer head and the remote CU breaks, then all your bonded metalwork becomes live. ie an Open PEN
1. Put the signs and cones on wheels and bits of rope, tow behind the van on multiple lamp changes 😁 2. Should those supplies up to the flats be installed to bs7671? Surely an exposed neutral can’t conform.. 3. Just because no one’s questioned it before doesn’t mean it’s right.
Your last comment is why I’m deliberating….. just cos nobody has ever questioned it that doesn’t mean it’s ok. I’m still looking into it trying to work out a solution.
10:57 - Unless there's no room behind the hole, don't use hole saws for that, use a step drill. A single step drill does the job of a full set of hole saws - and a much better job on plastic or thin metal.
After seeing your sophisticated stores setup, I would have thought you would keep spare drill bits etc? I always have plenty of spare drill bits, cutting blades etc in stock. Really enjoying the regular content, Keep it up Tom!
I fitted those streetlights Tom, outside the council dust cart yard opposite the park. I did the dno service (pme), helped erect them then wired and topped them out. You should've tried the road on the right by the park or further down outside the scrap yard, that would've really stressed you out.
Really enjoy your videos, especially as they are not full of adverts, endorsements, and giveaways ! Just a sparky doing what he loves and wanting to share it.
Watched a crew replace all the bulbs on my street on Friday... Think they did about 100 lamps. 1 guy driving the bucket truck. 1 guy going for a ride in the bucket. Amazing how efficient a subcontract crew can be.
Thomas, I used to work for BT and we had to do "roadworks guarding" when working on poles etc. Whilst it was a real PITA for a lot of the reason you mention, it meant you were covered in the event of an accident. Sometimes corners were cut, but when they were and something happened you could end up being in court facing charges if someone was involved in an accident as a result of your lack signage, or if you skimped on PSE gear, it could be your life. We had one guy who used to have cable ties on his safety harness to slot tools in rather than use the correct method of setting up a rope and pulley and winching up a tool bag. One day he mistakenly secured his harness to a cable tie, lent back at the top of the pole and the tie let go and he fell....sadly to his death. Not saying you would take such chances, at least not in public, but in todays blame and claim society, its not worth doing it any other way than by the book. - Stay safe brother
I did a similar thing, put my belt clip on to a hammer loop on my belt which nearly ripped a rivet out when I leant back. Absolutely shit myself! Fortunately I managed to grab on to the pole before I fell backwards and off! Never used one again and used is as a coaching point at every possible opportunity afterwards.
Is this why they use outside contractors these days, they do not do all the signage etc, take shortcuts etc. BT would just turn on them and say the contractor has been advised as to what they should do, if they didn't do it it is their fault! Or am I just being cynical?
@@Martin64uk Man you were lucky. Glad to hear you are still with us.. Three months after my training and being out on my own I happened to have an accident at the top of the pole.. caused by incorrectly positioned DP's by subcontractors. When reported my Level 1 came out, as did a union rep and an inspector, who tool pictures of the ladder, van position, cones, "men at work" signage etc... As I had done everything as per my training I had a good case, and BT couldn't point the finger at me... Mind you, years later they cut the time per provide and often corners would be cut and I've seen guys run up a pole with the dropwire over their shoulder, ladder untied, and no PPE gear on what so ever.... Life is too short to take chances. - Stay safe bro
I think it's worth putting those signs up. I am on the road a lot and I've witnessed sooo many dangerous situations due to construction sites being done not properly. And ultimately, this might safe your vehicle or even your life one day. You can literally see it in this video, after you were packing the cones back in and were talking to the camera, that the cars suddenly get within a cars length to your truck. Imagine one driver not paying attention. He'll never be able to break once he notices that you are in the way. So I'd say it's totally worth it.
That is a good idea about the Tues and Thursday. We do Mondays and Fridays because when things go sideways it's usually on Weekends/Mondays or Fridays. But basically see when things usually go pear and book 2 days around similar days It does help a lot!
+thomas nagy ESQCR 2002 says that neutral and earth may not be combined in a Consumers' installation. As for BNO's -- maybe this is another grey-area ...? P.s. consider what happens if that pen-conductor fails on the MI cable, and where bonding is to shared services (water, etc in the building as whole not just individual-flats)...
Tom, I'd say that you are the first to notice the PME/PME double up Cockup.... it should never have been done that way.... If PME at the origin exists, it should never be duplicated further up the system,... I would scrap it and run a separate 16 earth from the origin to the DB in the flat.... Good video, interesting stuff.
You cant run a seperate earth. If you run it as a seperate removing it from the neutral then under fault conditions the building becomes live. If you keep it connected to the neutral then you have a parallel return path. I could have understood having 2 MI cables - line and neutral. But single for line can't be correct. I can also understand why they might have installed MI as its a lower fire risk over the 2 10mm in "pipe" but where a DNO have regs I don't begin to have knowledge of that might have made this acceptable, our regs say its not.
Under new roads and street work the 30 mins is only for mobile works. You can have as long as you need if you have your chapter 8 out. It all depends on your permit to work from network management.
i work for openreach and we have to do this all the time and yes we have to have two people at all time also the act engineers carry all the signs on the van for the hoists
I totaly agree with the sound of de drill bit.....know your tools and you can avoid most problems. I also like customers that just what yo get the job done.....no questions.Of course you leave everything and help them the nest time. Hy from România.
First time commenting but Tom can I just say, I’ve watched you for along time and I loved the old style videos but the way your adapting and evolving them aswell as your business is a credit to you the time and effort your must spend trying to balance everything is mind blowing , and a inspiration, I hope you all the best . P.s surely I Carnt the the only one that it annoys when you say give me 5 mins to set up , there’s no time scale on RUclips the next second your back 😂😂 all love
In Australia we use tma trucks with is a another vehicle with crash protection on the back that's sits behind the working vehicle used alot on major roads
I really love you are doing streetlighing now, Ive been doing the same thing for a year now only in Norway, was a regular electrician before that, and the thing with the cones really spoke to me, we only have 30 mins per lightpost also, so we never use the damn cones, we have a car behind the lift with blinkers on also, keep up the great work!
You need to check the other end of the other end of the MICC to see how they've terminated it as the communal board is down there. Seems like you may have read my comments from the last video. Depending on PFC and LOOP there's possibility of using the Conduit itself as the earthing conductor but you'd have to test it to see if it was suitable as it would have been the previous earth if they weren't using the water pipe. Your research is correct and is normally why we list it as C3 and not higher, though the MICC joint in the flat needs covering. Also there's a good chance the cabling in the conduit was VR hence it was cut off - it is that age of installation.
Essentially they’ve run a PME from the incommer to the fuse box position, I’m fairly sure ‘porting’ a PME ain’t allowed!! (By which I mean it’s defiantly not allowed)
Tom for cutting holes in plastic and sheet metal try the little armeg sheet metal holesaws, they fit in an impact driver. Really good set I couldn't live without!
Work with a Transit Versalift, I did the same coarse on traffic management. Problem also is the Transit only has 100kg of storage weight permitted. If it goes over 3.5t then not only is it overweight but your basic licence (I'm 42) doesn't cover you to drive anything over 3.5t without going for another test.
DNO when they were the REC will have PME the whole building. Now it’s a BNO… you have CNE running throughout the building. Which could be argued is against 7671. Depends on if BNO knows it’s a BNO…
Fully agree with E5, it’s such a mess in the Uk this is gonna come to a head when a problem occurs like a life is lost and or fire then there will be lots of hand wringing about who was responsible.
Sadly I've had blocks like this where they have no functioning BNO and weren't even aware it was their responsibility and witnessed those same blocks suddenly deciding to notify all the tenants they need to pay up to rectify these supplies after EICRs or replacement consumer units have been fitted, notifying the board of the supply type and responsibility. Which has caused residents to re-mortgage or sell up to cover costs.
23:23 you really need your head on a swivel to make sure someone doesn't run into you. The buddy system for sure. That is what the appearances are for they can stand there and direct traffic and help out on the ground! 😁🤷♂️
Hi Thomas with this video being a year old I'm not sure if you'll see this and I'm guessing you might already know that the picture from the red book you showed for Traffic management refers to when you're removing access to the footpath and creating a temporary diversion for pedestrians also requires wheel chair ramps. Roads like this most tend to operate on short duration works page 87 which only covers you for up to 15 minutes but only requires 4 cones 4 signs and a mounter vehicle sign or a 5th cone / sign. Interesting to see the highways sector from your point of view. Look forward to more videos in the future.
The worst hand drier I ever fitted had a hair dryer inside with the handle cut off. I’m not even joking. Can’t remember where it was from or if the client supplied it. Excellent videos thanks.
Appreciate you were practicing your SLaG but a few tips if it's okay. Lose your Works End signs, you shouldn't need them if you are just operating a mewp. Shorten your taper, I usually just put a 45 degree taper on a 30 road. Your works looked like it reduced the carriageway down to single file traffic so you would need Single File Traffic subplates on your road narrows signs and a keep left arrow on the front of your works - a short taper also helps with single file traffic as cars have more stopping space to give way.
@@pcb1962 you normally have to do a traffic count, something like 20 cars in 3 minutes is the limit. However if you're contracting for the local authority they usually turn a blind eye.
If it were my flat, I’d want an earth wire run at least… I’d probably pay to have new tails pulled through down to the utility cupboard and ditch that MI cable. I agree, it seems bizarre to rewire the flat but leave a cowboy supply 🤷🏻♂️
@@Sierraomega1991 fair comment - I guess my hope would be that from my meter to my consumer unit I could choose the cables 🤷🏻♂️ as that conduit is already there, the building’s managers would probably never notice it’s been reinstated- no drilling or anything required. Flats I’ve had before have always had the meter within the flat, so I’ve not seen this setup before
When I worked on highways, 2006-2015 the minimum was chevrons and beacons on the van, keep left arrow. 3 cones. 1 men at work sign. For short duration works. Ie lamp change, or cleaning the bowl.
@@thomasnagy it's been a while since my nrswa training. But I think on a 40mph road you need more. Like you had set up in the video. I always worked alone at e.on, then went onto Balfour Beatty and the used 2 people, the second was just for signs and cones. That's when I quit!
When Scottish power were working on the lights for my street the fella is almost like you described except in his harness (no hat). Pull up, walk round, up down and onto the next light.... time is money
Bakelite backbox' are the scourge of this trade. I understand that its a cost thing, for both manufacturer and installer, but PVC all the way. Those pan-head screws are awesome though.
on that last building wiring, if the neutral got disconnected in the flat for some reason any appliance would send 240 to any grounded metal case of every appliance in the same flat...
I used the reverse trick just yesterday with a spade-bit on an existing hole that I needed to enlarge in a nylon cistern tank. Whoever had installed this setup put nothing in stuffing glands or supports, effectively leaving the top of a drinking water supply open to goodness knows whatever would blow or fly into a garage. Wires and pipes just stuck willy-nilly. Had to swap in a new 3/4HP pump for the domestic water supply. (the1500l tank is fed by a slow-flow well)
Great video,👍🏽 definitely agree with the screws for Schneider, the light switch screws are just the same , pointless supplying them , might as well get your own
In Old polish Buildings neutral is used as a earth. Most eastern Europe in 60-80’ has been done that way, very similar at least, but that was long time ago.
With the person in the top of the bucket you can all sorts of lone worker tools, when I'm in the office alone we have a phone with an app that we have to check in every hour and if you don't you get a phone call
Supplying a device with a European plug and UK adaptor can be OK from non UK suppliers if a proper/compliant adaptor is supplied. When I buy stuff from the German MI retailer Thomann they do ship things with Euro-UK adaptors where supplying the correct UK IEC lead is not an option (i.e. it comes with a "wall-wart" or hard wired mains lead), but as they are a quality outfit they only supply the Powerconnections screw on adaptors, no unfused "death-daptors" here!
Tom look at pages 19 and 37 of the red book to save time and equipment for your set up on roads of 30 mph or less which most of your work will be. Also the 30 minutes is Scotland. In England and Wales there are two levels of short duration works up to 15 minutes and 15 to 60 minutes both require different SLG set ups. 👍
Bloody hell, it’s put together like a tv episode! Fantastic! Health and safety risk assessments are straightforward with a decent proforma and a sensible approach. Careful about getting ripped off by consulting companies
When we use a hoist we have to have two engineers onsite. The hoist operator who works in the hoist and then someone on the ground as ground support to deal with anything on the ground and they are able to use the controls on the ground to get the operator down from the hoist or use the manual cranking to move it across out of the way and lower it. As for roadworks setup what you had put out should be put out. From what I hear some councils can be really picky and love to hand out fines. Yet if you see the councils own guys they don't seem to stick to the same rules.
This channel is quite funny, it's like some posh bloke who came from a family with butlers and gardeners and 26 bedrooms has been disowned and told he will be cut out of the will entirely if he does anything other than be an electrician, great stuff!
That hard hat you were wearing for the streetwork was approaching the class look of the “hard hat over the hooded sweatshirt” from a couple of videos ago. One for the ladies, mate. 😂😂
I think you’d be better leaving the earthing arrangement as it is Tom. If you introduce a different earthing system within that room, you have the added problem of simultaneously accessible exposed conductive parts, if a fault were to develop.
Yes I think the system is dodgy. If a flat loses the Neutral/Earth then all the power will find its way via any bonded pipes etc., through other apartments with metallic bonded links such as water, gas or communal heating.
In liverpool and Chester we have the opposite with regards to dno's . They have been round installing new concentric cables in galvanised trunking to supply flats in blocks and removing old pyrotenax cables . When I worked on street lighting in liverpool it was always 2 man jobs but in Shropshire 1 man working was allowed . The chapter 8 sign and Coning was rarely used , if you were a bulk change you would put a caution sign and street lighting sign at the start of a road and a couple of cones and an arrow sign behind the van as you moved along . Never had an issue . Perhaps more luck than judgement.
great contents mate really appreciate how you explain each and every thing mate .I recommended your videos to my apprentices as well they love watching your contents. they learned so much from your videos . keep it up mate
The book is heavily interpreted by most company's, check out a BT engineer, van on the road with beacons small personal barrier around their box and they work away. Yet technically i think they should do the full taper, signs etc. Hard to be by the book but we all know the one time you dont will be the time you get pulled up for it. At cadent we have a team who comes and drops off the barries for each job as and when needed. Not ideal but saves every technician having a van full of signs.
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Tom i use to watch you when you was an electrician working by yourself, grabbing a cuppa and getting your van washed once in a while and its so nice seeing you come so far in the industry your in. Massive respect to you mate!
You can tell Tom has been taking inspiration from Ashville weekly for his videos. Which can only be a good thing. Quality content for everyone.
I work in Streetlighting and it's nice to see other's seeing how much of a ballache Traffic Management is!
3Cones and an Arrow will nearly always be sufficient on a 30mph road, I can convert 30+ streetlights to LED a day following this rule.
If you're lone working, you can purchase lone working devices that automatically ring through to your office if it thinks you've fallen or had an accident. (:
Does the lone working device do CPR?
When working alone (different job to yours) we had to phone in at the start and end to confirm we were OK, if it wasn't a short task then we had to call in at a set period.
The task wasn't high risk and our personal health wasn't expected to be a factor. Probably more if we didn't call in someone else would be sent to finish the task..... In your case move the truck.. Lol
Tom, you're looking at the wrong page in the red book. The set up you are looking at is for diversion of pedestrians into the carriageway, thats not required if you can leave 1.5m of footpath open (can go down to 1m) Try page 83 onwards, mobile or short duration works. The 30 mins you refer to applies to Scotland
My experience with street lights. We never put out all signs just a couple of cones, always a crew of 2 and a bonus paid on 50 plus lamps per day.
With regards to drilling through things and street furniture/cables/etc, always always always get a services map and do a quick confirmatory cat scan if you have to break ground and you're not familiar with what's going on.
Also if you ask someone about services/utilities and they say there's none there and you don't need to worry about it, get it in writing. Especially for fibre optics; breaking a fibre run can very quickly lead to a huge bill for whoever the buck stops at, and writing from someone saying 'don't worry about checking' will save either you or your insurance premiums.
Folding streetwork signs and collapsing “quazar” cones from Arco are a big van space saver
Yep just what i carry but the small bigfoot police types cones for space saving
The 30 mins for TM thing is only for emergency or transient works. You should be booking road space with the local authority for anything more than this (otherwise it’s illegal).
It's OK he only works in 30 minute stints. So as long as its multiple jobsheets each less than 30 minutes each it'll be fine. 🤣🤣
Combined neutral and earth can’t be implemented past the incomer.
Tt system will introduce differing potentials within the plant room.
The hand dryer is just tripping its own overheat switch. Basically, it overheats. Next time check if it has a thermal regulator in the circuit or on the back of the dryer, though for £30, I doubt there is one...
Looks more like the IR sensor has a rather long calibration phase
Thomas Nagy and the £36 hand dryer...............no expense - spent 😁😁😁 great video, thoroughly enjoyed 👍😎
Sounds a terrible Harry Potter remake
How are the cheap led outside lights holding up ?
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Loving these longer format multi day vids Tom.
Keep up the great work.
I’m glad to hear that people are enjoying the longer vids :)
Hi tom you should look at getting a small trailer with the keep right sign on the back so you can park up and keep the van clear.
You probably know this Tom but you are not allowed to set RWG up at busy times. at my company we have a database we check and it tells us the time the council say no Roadworks during rush hour or between 7:00am - 9:00am. also you have to leave 6.75m road width for give and take (check the red book) if its not possible like on that road you showed, you need a permit from the council.
I'm getting a bit old to remember all the details, but I feel sure that it is against Regs to put in an internal supply as a TNCS supply. For the obvious reason that if the neutral between the incomer head and the remote CU breaks, then all your bonded metalwork becomes live. ie an Open PEN
Literally the video we've all been waiting on. You've worked hard Tom well done!
1. Put the signs and cones on wheels and bits of rope, tow behind the van on multiple lamp changes 😁
2. Should those supplies up to the flats be installed to bs7671? Surely an exposed neutral can’t conform..
3. Just because no one’s questioned it before doesn’t mean it’s right.
Your last comment is why I’m deliberating….. just cos nobody has ever questioned it that doesn’t mean it’s ok. I’m still looking into it trying to work out a solution.
@@thomasnagy good on you, but beware the path least trodden 😁
Is there no lift shaft or downspouts you can earth to? :P
10:57 - Unless there's no room behind the hole, don't use hole saws for that, use a step drill. A single step drill does the job of a full set of hole saws - and a much better job on plastic or thin metal.
After seeing your sophisticated stores setup, I would have thought you would keep spare drill bits etc? I always have plenty of spare drill bits, cutting blades etc in stock. Really enjoying the regular content, Keep it up Tom!
Next weeks Monday video...
"Setting up tool spares racks in the unit"
I fitted those streetlights Tom, outside the council dust cart yard opposite the park. I did the dno service (pme), helped erect them then wired and topped them out. You should've tried the road on the right by the park or further down outside the scrap yard, that would've really stressed you out.
Really enjoy your videos, especially as they are not full of adverts, endorsements, and giveaways ! Just a sparky doing what he loves and wanting to share it.
Appreciate it pal!
Watched a crew replace all the bulbs on my street on Friday...
Think they did about 100 lamps.
1 guy driving the bucket truck.
1 guy going for a ride in the bucket.
Amazing how efficient a subcontract crew can be.
Thomas, I used to work for BT and we had to do "roadworks guarding" when working on poles etc. Whilst it was a real PITA for a lot of the reason you mention, it meant you were covered in the event of an accident. Sometimes corners were cut, but when they were and something happened you could end up being in court facing charges if someone was involved in an accident as a result of your lack signage, or if you skimped on PSE gear, it could be your life. We had one guy who used to have cable ties on his safety harness to slot tools in rather than use the correct method of setting up a rope and pulley and winching up a tool bag. One day he mistakenly secured his harness to a cable tie, lent back at the top of the pole and the tie let go and he fell....sadly to his death. Not saying you would take such chances, at least not in public, but in todays blame and claim society, its not worth doing it any other way than by the book. - Stay safe brother
I did a similar thing, put my belt clip on to a hammer loop on my belt which nearly ripped a rivet out when I leant back. Absolutely shit myself! Fortunately I managed to grab on to the pole before I fell backwards and off! Never used one again and used is as a coaching point at every possible opportunity afterwards.
Is this why they use outside contractors these days, they do not do all the signage etc, take shortcuts etc. BT would just turn on them and say the contractor has been advised as to what they should do, if they didn't do it it is their fault! Or am I just being cynical?
@@Martin64uk Man you were lucky. Glad to hear you are still with us.. Three months after my training and being out on my own I happened to have an accident at the top of the pole.. caused by incorrectly positioned DP's by subcontractors. When reported my Level 1 came out, as did a union rep and an inspector, who tool pictures of the ladder, van position, cones, "men at work" signage etc... As I had done everything as per my training I had a good case, and BT couldn't point the finger at me... Mind you, years later they cut the time per provide and often corners would be cut and I've seen guys run up a pole with the dropwire over their shoulder, ladder untied, and no PPE gear on what so ever.... Life is too short to take chances. - Stay safe bro
Why dont you work for BT any more?
@@RMD80GAMER I took the redundancy package in 1992... Went self employed for 10 years (different industry) and then into IT
I think it's worth putting those signs up. I am on the road a lot and I've witnessed sooo many dangerous situations due to construction sites being done not properly. And ultimately, this might safe your vehicle or even your life one day. You can literally see it in this video, after you were packing the cones back in and were talking to the camera, that the cars suddenly get within a cars length to your truck. Imagine one driver not paying attention. He'll never be able to break once he notices that you are in the way. So I'd say it's totally worth it.
There may be a little adjustable time switch inside the hand dryer, normally you just turn it with a tiny flat headed screwdriver.
I thought it was a thermal cut-out cutting in...? lol
That is a good idea about the Tues and Thursday.
We do Mondays and Fridays because when things go sideways it's usually on Weekends/Mondays or Fridays.
But basically see when things usually go pear and book 2 days around similar days
It does help a lot!
The 10mm tails were VIR risers, replaced with MICC many years ago. Shame no one rips it out
Great video. Love the switching between mixed content. And you’re taking on 2 apprentices. Respect 👊
+thomas nagy
ESQCR 2002 says that neutral and earth may not be combined in a Consumers' installation. As for BNO's -- maybe this is another grey-area ...?
P.s. consider what happens if that pen-conductor fails on the MI cable, and where bonding is to shared services (water, etc in the building as whole not just individual-flats)...
Tom, I'd say that you are the first to notice the PME/PME double up Cockup.... it should never have been done that way.... If PME at the origin exists, it should never be duplicated further up the system,... I would scrap it and run a separate 16 earth from the origin to the DB in the flat....
Good video, interesting stuff.
You cant run a seperate earth.
If you run it as a seperate removing it from the neutral then under fault conditions the building becomes live.
If you keep it connected to the neutral then you have a parallel return path.
I could have understood having 2 MI cables - line and neutral. But single for line can't be correct.
I can also understand why they might have installed MI as its a lower fire risk over the 2 10mm in "pipe" but where a DNO have regs I don't begin to have knowledge of that might have made this acceptable, our regs say its not.
Under new roads and street work the 30 mins is only for mobile works. You can have as long as you need if you have your chapter 8 out. It all depends on your permit to work from network management.
i work for openreach and we have to do this all the time and yes we have to have two people at all time also the act engineers carry all the signs on the van for the hoists
I totaly agree with the sound of de drill bit.....know your tools and you can avoid most problems.
I also like customers that just what yo get the job done.....no questions.Of course you leave everything and help them the nest time.
Hy from România.
The amount of varied content in your videos is really making you stand out. Nice vids!
Cheers pal, really appreciate it!
It’s like a TV programme
Nice one.....just a tip...I use the soft conduit back boxes , it saves the cracking problem and you can get them in all sizes......👍
I did street lighting for local council very long time ago. We just pulled up and got on with it, no signs at all.
The signs we use have cloth loops on the back that go over the cones. They are much lighter and stack flat.
First time commenting but Tom can I just say, I’ve watched you for along time and I loved the old style videos but the way your adapting and evolving them aswell as your business is a credit to you the time and effort your must spend trying to balance everything is mind blowing , and a inspiration, I hope you all the best .
P.s surely I Carnt the the only one that it annoys when you say give me 5 mins to set up , there’s no time scale on RUclips the next second your back 😂😂 all love
He telling the camera man
In Australia we use tma trucks with is a another vehicle with crash protection on the back that's sits behind the working vehicle used alot on major roads
I really love you are doing streetlighing now, Ive been doing the same thing for a year now only in Norway, was a regular electrician before that, and the thing with the cones really spoke to me, we only have 30 mins per lightpost also, so we never use the damn cones, we have a car behind the lift with blinkers on also, keep up the great work!
Great video,the copper on the micc acts as the earth,if done properly, possibly why ,that's my guess
when drilling holes in plastic use a Sheetmetal step bit it will give you the cleanest hole with very little cracking
also called Christmas Tree Bits in denmark ;)
Christmas tree 🎄
Armeg fast cut and obviously in the clockwise direction , lovely clean hole.
Drill a lil hole in the bottom of the outdoor box to let any water out!
I drilled through a central heating pipe while hanging a curtain rail because I’m stupid. Happy to admit it. Learn from experience.
You need to check the other end of the other end of the MICC to see how they've terminated it as the communal board is down there. Seems like you may have read my comments from the last video. Depending on PFC and LOOP there's possibility of using the Conduit itself as the earthing conductor but you'd have to test it to see if it was suitable as it would have been the previous earth if they weren't using the water pipe. Your research is correct and is normally why we list it as C3 and not higher, though the MICC joint in the flat needs covering. Also there's a good chance the cabling in the conduit was VR hence it was cut off - it is that age of installation.
Essentially they’ve run a PME from the incommer to the fuse box position, I’m fairly sure ‘porting’ a PME ain’t allowed!! (By which I mean it’s defiantly not allowed)
recently got an electrical apprenticeship in canada can't get enough of your vids tom!
Tom for cutting holes in plastic and sheet metal try the little armeg sheet metal holesaws, they fit in an impact driver. Really good set I couldn't live without!
Work with a Transit Versalift, I did the same coarse on traffic management. Problem also is the Transit only has 100kg of storage weight permitted. If it goes over 3.5t then not only is it overweight but your basic licence (I'm 42) doesn't cover you to drive anything over 3.5t without going for another test.
DNO when they were the REC will have PME the whole building. Now it’s a BNO… you have CNE running throughout the building. Which could be argued is against 7671. Depends on if BNO knows it’s a BNO…
Fully agree with E5, it’s such a mess in the Uk this is gonna come to a head when a problem occurs like a life is lost and or fire then there will be lots of hand wringing about who was responsible.
Sadly I've had blocks like this where they have no functioning BNO and weren't even aware it was their responsibility and witnessed those same blocks suddenly deciding to notify all the tenants they need to pay up to rectify these supplies after EICRs or replacement consumer units have been fitted, notifying the board of the supply type and responsibility. Which has caused residents to re-mortgage or sell up to cover costs.
@@mathman0101 🤷♂️🤷♂️Well apparently its a C3 so nobody should worry 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
23:23 you really need your head on a swivel to make sure someone doesn't run into you. The buddy system for sure. That is what the appearances are for they can stand there and direct traffic and help out on the ground! 😁🤷♂️
Monday evening + Thomas Nagy video = perfection
Hi Thomas with this video being a year old I'm not sure if you'll see this and I'm guessing you might already know that the picture from the red book you showed for Traffic management refers to when you're removing access to the footpath and creating a temporary diversion for pedestrians also requires wheel chair ramps. Roads like this most tend to operate on short duration works page 87 which only covers you for up to 15 minutes but only requires 4 cones 4 signs and a mounter vehicle sign or a 5th cone / sign. Interesting to see the highways sector from your point of view. Look forward to more videos in the future.
Literally dropped everything to watch this
I’m glad to hear it ;)
@@thomasnagy your welcome Tom love the videos and the progression from when you where doing everything yourself
Project 863
@@anaschunara7544 hell yeh
Were you on the loo at the time 🤣
I live in Abercumstuth 🤣🏴
If you were tight on space could you store some of your signs and cones in the bucket just while on the way to the job
Tom you and the camera guy are an excellent team and better than you realise
The worst hand drier I ever fitted had a hair dryer inside with the handle cut off. I’m not even joking. Can’t remember where it was from or if the client supplied it. Excellent videos thanks.
Sounds like a great dragons den idea.
Top tip, never ever ever use anything other than moulded back boxes, we haven’t used plastic Bakelite stuff for about 12yrs now 😂 not worth the hassle
Me to extra cost but so much worth it, also most of the sparks on you tube never use the Mini trunking box adaptors.
Are moulded back boxes thermoset? Because the soft ones used for phone/data shouldn't be used for mains.
I only use PVC boxes, the bakelite crap is too brittle and weak.
Always get confirmation of insurance cover in writing! Never take someone’s word
How come you ended up repurposing the 'Modunful' hand dryer as a safety helmet in your highways segment? 19:20
possibly better use?! 😂😂😂
Hot head 😂
+1 to the Schneider screw feedback, it's shocking such a premium brand ships with such annoying screws.
Appreciate you were practicing your SLaG but a few tips if it's okay. Lose your Works End signs, you shouldn't need them if you are just operating a mewp. Shorten your taper, I usually just put a 45 degree taper on a 30 road. Your works looked like it reduced the carriageway down to single file traffic so you would need Single File Traffic subplates on your road narrows signs and a keep left arrow on the front of your works - a short taper also helps with single file traffic as cars have more stopping space to give way.
Could have a massive keep left arrow on the rear of the van 😂 with 4 orange lights
Where I live it seems like any time you reduce the carriageway to single file traffic you put in temporary lights these days
@@pcb1962 you normally have to do a traffic count, something like 20 cars in 3 minutes is the limit. However if you're contracting for the local authority they usually turn a blind eye.
If it were my flat, I’d want an earth wire run at least… I’d probably pay to have new tails pulled through down to the utility cupboard and ditch that MI cable. I agree, it seems bizarre to rewire the flat but leave a cowboy supply 🤷🏻♂️
But as the building is local authority owned you could run into issues
@@Sierraomega1991 fair comment - I guess my hope would be that from my meter to my consumer unit I could choose the cables 🤷🏻♂️ as that conduit is already there, the building’s managers would probably never notice it’s been reinstated- no drilling or anything required. Flats I’ve had before have always had the meter within the flat, so I’ve not seen this setup before
When I worked on highways, 2006-2015 the minimum was chevrons and beacons on the van, keep left arrow. 3 cones. 1 men at work sign. For short duration works. Ie lamp change, or cleaning the bowl.
Cheers for the insight 👍🏻
@@thomasnagy it's been a while since my nrswa training. But I think on a 40mph road you need more. Like you had set up in the video.
I always worked alone at e.on, then went onto Balfour Beatty and the used 2 people, the second was just for signs and cones. That's when I quit!
Just discovered your channel thanks to this video, subscribed!
When Scottish power were working on the lights for my street the fella is almost like you described except in his harness (no hat). Pull up, walk round, up down and onto the next light.... time is money
Bakelite backbox' are the scourge of this trade. I understand that its a cost thing, for both manufacturer and installer, but PVC all the way. Those pan-head screws are awesome though.
I’m fluent Welsh. Usually, Highway Maintenance is translated as, ‘Cynnal a Chadw Priffyrdd’.
‘Priffyrdd’ literally means ‘main roads’.
on that last building wiring, if the neutral got disconnected in the flat for some reason any appliance would send 240 to any grounded metal case of every appliance in the same flat...
had a proper chuckle at the hand dryer
Love the vids , great stuff 👍🏼 but I do miss the old days.. soap style intro, grabbing a coffee from McDonald’s and having good rants in the van 👌🏼😅😅😅
Hands down my favourite channel on RUclips keep them coming!
Cheers pal, appreciate it :)
I used the reverse trick just yesterday with a spade-bit on an existing hole that I needed to enlarge in a nylon cistern tank. Whoever had installed this setup put nothing in stuffing glands or supports, effectively leaving the top of a drinking water supply open to goodness knows whatever would blow or fly into a garage. Wires and pipes just stuck willy-nilly. Had to swap in a new 3/4HP pump for the domestic water supply. (the1500l tank is fed by a slow-flow well)
Great video,👍🏽 definitely agree with the screws for Schneider, the light switch screws are just the same , pointless supplying them , might as well get your own
In Old polish Buildings neutral is used as a earth. Most eastern Europe in 60-80’ has been done that way, very similar at least, but that was long time ago.
Yep it always looks better in the old back box😏
With the person in the top of the bucket you can all sorts of lone worker tools, when I'm in the office alone we have a phone with an app that we have to check in every hour and if you don't you get a phone call
Supplying a device with a European plug and UK adaptor can be OK from non UK suppliers if a proper/compliant adaptor is supplied.
When I buy stuff from the German MI retailer Thomann they do ship things with Euro-UK adaptors where supplying the correct UK IEC lead is not an option (i.e. it comes with a "wall-wart" or hard wired mains lead), but as they are a quality outfit they only supply the Powerconnections screw on adaptors, no unfused "death-daptors" here!
Tom look at pages 19 and 37 of the red book to save time and equipment for your set up on roads of 30 mph or less which most of your work will be. Also the 30 minutes is Scotland. In England and Wales there are two levels of short duration works up to 15 minutes and 15 to 60 minutes both require different SLG set ups. 👍
New word of the day “Caveat”
Bloody hell, it’s put together like a tv episode! Fantastic! Health and safety risk assessments are straightforward with a decent proforma and a sensible approach. Careful about getting ripped off by consulting companies
When we use a hoist we have to have two engineers onsite. The hoist operator who works in the hoist and then someone on the ground as ground support to deal with anything on the ground and they are able to use the controls on the ground to get the operator down from the hoist or use the manual cranking to move it across out of the way and lower it.
As for roadworks setup what you had put out should be put out.
From what I hear some councils can be really picky and love to hand out fines. Yet if you see the councils own guys they don't seem to stick to the same rules.
This channel is quite funny, it's like some posh bloke who came from a family with butlers and gardeners and 26 bedrooms has been disowned and told he will be cut out of the will entirely if he does anything other than be an electrician, great stuff!
This is such a good video. Loved the drawing part of the TNS system. Really well explained and very interesting.
Appreciate it pal!
Good insight Thomas Bureaucracy at it`s finest.
Answers on a postcard what do you do when somebody kicks it whilst in the bucket.
To prevent shattering the back box I use upvc surfaces boxes which are ideal.
1 sign, Road Closed. Job done. ;-)
Lol, Schneider and cost cutting! I worked at their Switchgear/Transformers factory in Leeds and cost cutting was the norm!
That hard hat you were wearing for the streetwork was approaching the class look of the “hard hat over the hooded sweatshirt” from a couple of videos ago. One for the ladies, mate. 😂😂
I think you’d be better leaving the earthing arrangement as it is Tom. If you introduce a different earthing system within that room, you have the added problem of simultaneously accessible exposed conductive parts, if a fault were to develop.
Yes I think the system is dodgy. If a flat loses the Neutral/Earth then all the power will find its way via any bonded pipes etc., through other apartments with metallic bonded links such as water, gas or communal heating.
Officially my favorite RUclips spark consistently good content, thanks!
Appreciate it partner!
Great video Tom. Also it's great to see how your business has progressed from a one man band to now several employees and a decent unit 👍
Great video and fully agree about the Schneider , excellent accessories but all the screws are to short
In liverpool and Chester we have the opposite with regards to dno's . They have been round installing new concentric cables in galvanised trunking to supply flats in blocks and removing old pyrotenax cables . When I worked on street lighting in liverpool it was always 2 man jobs but in Shropshire 1 man working was allowed . The chapter 8 sign and Coning was rarely used , if you were a bulk change you would put a caution sign and street lighting sign at the start of a road and a couple of cones and an arrow sign behind the van as you moved along . Never had an issue . Perhaps more luck than judgement.
great contents mate really appreciate how you explain each and every thing mate .I recommended your videos to my apprentices as well they love watching your contents. they learned so much from your videos . keep it up mate
Glad to hear it! Thanks for the kind words!
Great video but you need a to wear the Full class 3 High Visibility kit for insurance purposes
14:37 I bet that Airblade was looking more appealing 4 hours in to the job 😋
“When your drilling you get to know the sound and feel” yes sir. Oh matron
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The book is heavily interpreted by most company's, check out a BT engineer, van on the road with beacons small personal barrier around their box and they work away. Yet technically i think they should do the full taper, signs etc. Hard to be by the book but we all know the one time you dont will be the time you get pulled up for it.
At cadent we have a team who comes and drops off the barries for each job as and when needed. Not ideal but saves every technician having a van full of signs.