Cultish: Exploring the Dangers of Yoga
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- Опубликовано: 18 окт 2020
- Should Christians practice the ancient worship ritual known as "Yoga"?
In our latest series, we are joined by Christine Schwan who has been involved in health & fitness her entire life, having been a certified aerobics instructor for over 30 years, as well as a national and state aerobic and fitness champion. After life changes brought her to the sacred space of single motherhood with 2 small boys, Christine began practicing hot yoga as a way to find more balance in her life, physically, mentally, spiritually and emotionally & fell in love with the practice of hot yoga then went on to receive her Yoga Teaching certification in the summer of 2008 with Jimmy Barkan and the Barkan Method which included power, Vinyasa and hot yoga, along with being certified in Yoga for Golfers (Level I/II), Yoga Sports Performance, and Functional Movement Science. In addition, she is currently an adjunct professor of Anatomy & Physiology for over 12 years and is certified in NLP, Hypnotherapy and is a Trainer for the Heart Math Institute. It is her extensive knowledge in these areas, as well as kinesiology and the biomechanics of the muscular system, which enables her to bring a depth of knowledge of the human body to her clients.
Christine specializes in corrective alignment, rehabilitation, movement, and improving sports performance for numerous college & professional athletes in the NFL, MLB & NBA.
Is Yoga fundamentally a physical or spiritual practice?
Is there a way to physically practice Yoga without embracing the spiritual elements?
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I had a couple Christian mom friends ask me to join a yoga class with them. I told them that I personally felt uncomfortable with yoga in general, and they looked at me like I have 3 heads. This isn't a topic that many Christians are willing to talk about.
Love this - as a follower of Jesus who is also a Circus acrobat I can 100% agree that Yoga should be avoided at all costs. If you want to stretch- just stretch.
Amen!! God bless
I practiced yoga for over 20 years. Depression, darkness and demons dominated my life during that time in my life. What's funny is, I started yoga to help 'center' me. Haha! Wow! The demons loved that I opened that door and invited them in. Thankfully, Jesus never gave up on me. He saved me three years ago and I'm done with all of that life. I'm a new person. No more depression and there is a indescribable joy that I feel. The dark demons still try to bother me, but I'm with our Lord and Savior, so they never get anywhere. God is so good.
Please pray for me to also experience the joy of Jesus. The demons are still at my door.
The search for the truth, have you accepted Jesus Christ as your lord and savior? If not that is the first step.
If you have not, please talk to me if you're interested in having a relationship with God and spending eternity in heaven
Wow. Praise God and may our Lord Jesus Christ **The ONE and ONLY God of the universe** protect you always.
🤍
I was just talking to my husband about this. He is an unbeliever and I was explaining why I cannot do yoga period as my church has a fitness class one day a week and they now do yoga poses at the end.
The guy with the tattoos is that friend who makes so many good points about something that you're doing wrong, that your only comeback is "Shut up 🤨" because you know he's right.
I really like him though, because he is truly listening and sharing his thoughts as he processes the information. He doesn't come off as a know- it-all, like so many of us are prone to doing. I think the Holy Spirit was helping him to connect the pieces at that moment.
Thank you! I also did a Yoga Teacher Training, but walked out when we did a night of Bhuddist chanting (the icing on the cake). I had originally signed up for the physical aspect but much of the training was lifestyle/spiritual and turned out to contradict the Jesus I knew. This challenged my faith because I yearned to find out why this is all so wrong. After much consideration of a year I decided in addition Christian Yoga is not something I can do knowing what I do from God's word.
Thankful to my friends who helped me through it :)
Thank you for sharing this.
I love that you guys are raising awareness on this. We all have our journey, but if we know this in the before we start something like this it may save us from going down this road. My Mom is a regular listener to Joel Olesteen and I would love for anyone who could to say a prayer for her to get to know the real God. Please and thank you so much if you feel lead to do so ❤.
24:00 I did yoga teacher training at a yoga ashram with an Indian guru lineage, and the first thing I learned was that the goal of yoga was self-realization/union with Brahman (the ultimate reality/god), liberation from the cycle of reincarnations. I was going there for the physical practice, but it was deeply spiritual. The physical practice was just a tiny part of everything. All the teachings were based in Hindu spiritual believes about god and life. There was a lot of chanting of Hindu mantras and prayers in Sanskrit, and many rituals performed for their gods at the temple…
I no longer practice yoga.
I think we can enjoy the benefits of stretching and gentle exercise without getting involved in yoga and all that comes with it.
You visited shivananda ashram you...
I would love to see a Cultish specifically revolving around psychedelics and psychedelic history.
Hear hear. I've dabbled in that realm ptL I was not overcome.
They kind of did when they went over Charles Manson
@@carmenmeyers3912 by Charlie Manson you mean George W right? Lol, all the world's a stage they told us. God bless
I am a middle aged man. I have been in the sports, recreation, and fitness industry my whole life. If you are just stretching just to keep limber, there is nothing wrong with it. There are similar stretches ALL athletes do to keep limber. There are similar poses that dancers gymnasts, acrobats and contortionists do. Are they actively practicing yoga while hitting those positions? NO!!!! Because yoga is also a meditative practice and a religion. Every true Yoga teacher will tell you this.
Right?! I am a massage therapist and I recommend yoga. Why? Because I believe that it takes at least 60 seconds for your muscle fibers to respond and relax. This is why an hour long session is so great because it forces people to take that time to stretch. Being at home there are so many distractions it often just isn't made a priority. I see a HUGE difference between people that excersize, stretch and eat healthy verses people that dont. There are religions that chant while they cook very specific healthy foods. Is it also a sin to follow those same eating regimens even though I am not chanting to the healthy food god? NO!!!
Yoga is very much a religion. My sister has been an instructor for 15 years, and now trains instructors.
I will do nothing to risk disrespecting or hurting the heart of My Lord and Savior.
ThErE iS nOtHiNg WrOnG wiTh iT…..well, I choose to believe the Bible over you. Lie to yourself all you want brother but your opinion means nothing.
@@Tre492 lol well that sounds very Godly of you. If you are going to claim to be a Christian then you should probably start with practicing love which also means allowing people to have an opinion and talk to them in a loving/respectful way...according to the bible.
@@Tre492 could you please provide the scriptural basis for what you’re saying?
Its important to note that the biblical theology of "peace" is not the same thing as freedom from stress, or from the reality of suffering. Biblical peace is first and foremost, reconciliation with God through the forgiveness of sin in Christ. As Voddie Baucham has said, there are things that we will have to do that will evoke a stress or anxiety feeling, for example confronting someone's sin or heresy, or addressing conflicts in relationships. One can be in the spirit while their flesh wars with the spirit when we do what needs to be done in such circumstances. Christians seem to think that if our flesh responds to stress, then we are not trusting Christ, but if we are obeying Christ and rest in him, we still may not feel at peace until the difficulty or suffering has passed. Eastern religions and new age thought is gnostic in this regard. The whole goal of these thought systems is to notfeel. But that's not at all biblical. The goal of the Christian life is to trust Christ in spite of what we feel.
Brilliant
@@craighill5827 thank you.
You can just use it as a workout without all woo woo nonsense. But then, demons and spirits are also pretty woo as well.
Brilliantly put 👏🏾
Incredible insight and well stated. Thank you for sharing.
Yoga was suggested to me to help pain. My family and I are Christians. My son told me no because it's a religion. I am thankful I didn't do it.
I suffer from chronic pain, and I’m constantly asked if I’ve tried yoga. I am also a follower of Jesus Christ. My sister is a yoga instructor and trainer of yoga instructors. I see how the Hindu and Buddhist religion are huge in her life. I also will never open my mind through meditation to spirits. I pray!
Even if yoga WAS ONLY possibly disrespectful to My Lord and My God, that is enough to have nothing to do with it!
God bless you and your son. I pray your pain eases, sister. ❤️
I feel for her, it’s hard when you realise that you’ve gone against God 💔 it’s heartbreaking
Nicec ego judgement you got from your church i see
@@Ilovemusic793 What?
Got a advertisement for yoga clothes before the video 😅
Advertisements are personal. So it’s directed at you personally based on your likes and searches.
@@michellearencibia7822 not exactly. I got an ad for an online yoga class. I've never searched for yoga or yoga products. I merely clicked on this suggested video.
Looking back I am very glad that one time I went to a Yoga class with conviction and gave it my best, the second I no longer had the strength to keep a position the teacher loudly called me out :“don‘t just give up!“ after sports at school with gym teachers who‘d better have gone to the military and ruined my joy for physical activity for many many years after the school days were over, me finally giving it a go and then having that type of Yoga teacher… plus I always had this resistance towards many practices… I couldn‘t put my finger on it… then 2017 I accidentally met I guy a had seen at a few parties back when I used to go out to underground clubs… we both had gone through quite the change in the meantime, started to chat about consciousness.. he said how he had been practicing TMI meditation (mindfulness = one main aspect: „emptying your mind“) and said he was offering weekly meditations.. so I joined, I meditated regularly.. we started dating.. I had a lot of stress factors coming together and my issues with my nervous system got a lot worse and on top of that I took part in a 40 sadhana a guy offered via zoom where we‘d do all kinds of eastern practices for 1.5 h a day… the people were wonderful and it was such a rewarding experience mainly because it was the first time I stuck with something involving body exercises.. during this time the relationship was on pause.. I was doing great in many ways, felt healthily unattached to him and then started seeing him again.. and the nervous system issues got even worse as well as the twin flamy dynamics (we both suffered quite a hand full of trauma in our childhoods)… I said and dis things where I was kind of blocked in a way and just didn‘t feel like myself… then in July/August a spiritual teacher I follow had her christ awakening and I just felt called to follow her journey and since then I‘ve been reading, watching about God, Jesus Christ, the bible.. started praying and reading the bible (if anyone had told me a few months back that I‘d be doing any of that I would have said „never, no way!“). With all that I habe learned I now understand how the devil had tried to pull me deeper in through the relationship, the sadhana, a couple that do relationship counceling, are deep in the new age and other groups I was in… once I had awakened to this I unfollowed all new age accounts.. I just couldn‘t listen to them anymore.. it all felt so wrong and deceitful… when I told my partner what path I started pursuing he talked about confirmation bias, that he had read the bible (but if you read it with resistance, with wanting to find fault in it, when you believe there is no God it won‘t reveal itself.. he does not believe in anything supernatural) and that it is merely a book written by man… he stuffed me in the same box as his mum, saying we believed the same (no way he could know that after a short conversation and being so closed off towards it all).. then he looked at me and said „I am sad… this is the worst thing that could have happened to you“.
I pray that God will show him the truth (about God and himself), soften his heart and lead him back home…
Is it possible guys to live a normal & simple life without Any god? Or any faith? Wath everybody does is nothing more then to ne trapped in a bielive system. Wich for me is childich.
Thank you for this episode! I practice Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and as a rest day wind down, the instructor suggested we do yoga and I never felt comfortable about it so I didn't go. This helped me understand that I was being protected and kept away from harm. Thanks guys.
I did bjj too and what you said is something I experienced too .. I kinda lost interest after I got saved
Just stretch like a normal person and go for walks or runs.
Some people have back problems which yoga alleviates and other forms of exercise exacerbate. Obviously Yoga isn't some demonic shit this video would have you believe. You are just scared of other cultures.
@@Swagtildawn Obviously it isn't obvious, that's why Cultish made this video. Scared of other cultures? I have worked in places that were 80% Indian, and 70% Filipino. I am no culture expert by any means, but I am not scared of them.
@@Swagtildawn 🥜
@@Swagtildawn Listen.
Maybe @@Swagtildawn is afraid of Christianity. I hope in the 6 months from this comment your heart has been softened to the word of God.
Our pastor’s sister is a yoga teacher and is allowed to be on the worship team! When asked about it, his wife said, “Oh, it’s ok, it’s holy yoga!” ?? 🤷🏽♀️ On the sister’s Facebook page she talked about “healing crystals”, and aromatherapy! This situation didn’t sit well with my husband and me, so after 24 years at this church, we left....broken-hearted.
Aromatherapy, as in just smelling things, is fine. If it's blended with meditations or something else, that's bad. Crystals are just conduits, but yoga is straight up demon worship. No matter how one slices it. So sad...
@@lillianwright2641 No, Lillian. Yoga is not demon worship. That's just ridiculous. I am a massage therapist and I can tell you, I see a huge difference in people's muscle tissue that do yoga verses those that dont. What is sad is that the Christian religion is not telling people how important it is to eat healthy, stretch or exercise as that is how you get closer to god anyways! It's simply oppressing people.
@@elsamartin8165 so, have you ever spoken with a yogi? Or seen any of the videos about their religion on youtube? Maybe what you call God isn't
Great series guys, loving these shows. Good job!
Thank you x
Thank you for sharing this episode. Great work!!!! God Bless and keep you , I’m so Thankful to ALL the guests y’all had on , I’m a new subscriber so I’m still catching up but every episode has been fascinating.
I agree wholeheartedly
Great show! funny an ad for yoga came up :)
I’ve been practicing for 16 years and teaching for 8. On zero level have I or any teacher Ive met interrupted anyone’s view of each ones god. That is abuse. I’m so sorry she had such a terrible time. Be kind to your body! If a red flag pops up in class- Ask why? Sending love.
Unfortunately, you're a feeder fish
Really enjoyed this look at yoga, so many people call themselves and yet are sold out to this. This is non-related, but I would like to feature Cultish on the resources page of my website. I’ve been following you from the start of the show and know the benefits that it has.
Thank You! Thank You! For this video!!!
Recently a speaker at my Christian church ended his talk with namaste! 😆
That says so much about how we've been indoctrinated over time through our messed up culture. I used to reference "karma" too. 🙄
@@mbwilson8592 Did you reference it seriously or was it a joke? After all, God isn’t going to damn you to hell for making jokes. He’s our King but he’s not a tyrant. And he’s certainly not without a sense of humor.
I’m more confused about Yoga than I was before I watched this episode.
Really vague explanations and talking in circles. No scripture read as to explain with clarity why yoga practice is condemned biblically. A lot of prevarication from the presenters and talking around in circles.
Please go back to the beginning and please let us know exactly what yoga is and why it’s practiced. Then explain why we as Christians shouldn’t do the yoga practices using scripture.
They reference scripture more in part 2. Yoga is a Hindu practice of yoking oneself to brahmin which is basically opening oneself up to depression. It's a worship practice as each position is meant as a reenactment of the acts of the Hindu gods in order to do them honor. It's clearly idolatry, so Christians shouldn't be doing it. Even by changing the names in a sort of holy yoga way, you're still doing the positions in a way that honors Hindu gods.
Doreen Virtue's most recent video on yoga is a really good explanation as to why yoga isn't for Christians.
@Brain Static I ask you to further explain what you mean by “meditate on God’s word word, not to clear our minds so we can become like Gods” (I assume you meant God’s word). First explain what you mean by became like Gods. This is sounding heretical.
I have a similar frustration. I want the scriptural basis and to understand the nuances of those scriptural principles.
Steven Bancarz has great videos on these topics. He uses bible verses to show his reasoning. he‘s very structured and clear in my opinion
I met this lovely woman at a christian retreat a couple of years ago who was a yoga instructor. She said her studio only poses for YHWY and showed me one of the poses. She was sad because her family wasn't saved and the people in the church told her she would have to stop practicing yoga. She didn't feel like she belonged anywhere. I wonder where she's at now and how she's doing.
Please do more videos on this subject...
I am a Christian and have been doing yoga for 2 years my back was getting soo bad and after listening to Doreen Virtue interview with a yoga teacher.. I stopped and the serpent coiling around my spine has left me , pain gone and didn't need to lie down for hours a day with pain. Next morning I got up I could see so clearly as if I just had new glasses....no more rationalizing about the health benefits.. I grew up been taught not to engage in yoga ...
Thanks for your podcast xx
I'm 12 minutes in and I'm still confused why yoga is a topic of discussion on Cultish. 🤣
Same
cultISH ... it has many similarities to a cult.
2 reasons it's on Cultish: 1, there is a very disturbing trend of dangerous cults operating as yoga studios and they use yoga studios, and implant these ideas I to peoples minds and they don't realize it is happening. And they get people in so deep that by the time they recognize what's happening they are in too deeo- or worse yet, don't even know they are in deep.They use spiritual abuse and manipulation under the guize of yoga, to get people in deep.
2. Yoga is a spiritual practise (pagan) connected to Eastern religions like Hinduism, Jainism and Buddhism. "Yoga" means "to yolk," and the meditation and spiritual practise of yoga is to achieve the "path of enlightenment" - where you YOLK yourself to a Hindu god. The poses are a type of posture dedication/worship - to the gods - and the spirituality/worship/meditation is meant to connect you (yolk you) with the Hindu gods.
Moksha is taught in yoga as the ultimate connection to the spiritual transcendence, the goal of every yogi (Mukherjee, 2016).
Yoga is defined as "Hindu theistic philosophy teaching the suppression of all activity of body, mind, and will in order that the self may realize its distinction from them and attain liberation.
*Another philosophical definition is: "a physical, mental and spiritual practice of unification [with a god] and transcendence (Paranipe, 1983).
Many Christians have probably heard of the "kundalini spirit" well there are kundalini cults based around yoga.
Hope that is a bit helpful and now you can see why it is on a Cultush episode. God bless
@@TinkerBell-bt6vu Very helpful! Thank you so much! I honestly had no idea yoga was anything more than stretch exercises! But now that you say all that, and I've listened to more of this episode, I can see the point very clearly. I appreciate you taking the time to help me understand. ♥️
@@ravenlunatic8 I see that now lol
They talk about the “health benefits” the good workout one gets from yoga ignoring the negative spiritual consequences... just as there are technically “health benefits” to committing adultery but look at the horrible consequences and the sin that is involved. I have also come to the conclusion that yoga is a sin therefore it cannot bring ANY true peace. It reminds me of the scripture that says “ they say peace peace when there is no peace.”
who says there are health benefits to committing adultery? holy blindness how are you even drawing such a comparison? drink that kool-aid baby
@@tomasthurman8957 The sexual act, in itself, is exercise, with many physiological benefits.
It's a good analogy. Within the bounds of marriage, having a sexual relationship is very good, and even good for the body, emotions, and is sanctioned by God.
Outside of Holy matrimony, the same act is very evil and detrimental.
To do the "exercise" of yoga is to enter into satan's territory. It is his religion. It is his false system of exercise and meditation. It isn't inspired by God, but expressly inspired by demons, as a part of an idolatrous religious experience. It essentially, at its core, and in its roots, belongs to satan. I can guarantee you that this is the way he views it, and operates through it, as allowed by the spiritual laws, laid down into creation by God. Dabble in satanic things, and reap the devil's harvest. Make NO room for devils, means, that according to spiritual principles laid down in Scripture, we are able to, but instructed not to, open doors to demons in our lives. Yoga is "a room" that plainly belongs to satan. It is spiritually his territory.
When you practice it, know it, or not, you invite demons, with their destructive forces and subtle pervasive lies into your life.
The evil one is very good at giving the false sense of peace, and also other benefits, designed to draw you away from becoming saved, if you aren't already saved. If you are saved, his interests are drawing you out of the close fellowship, protective grace, true spiritual productivity and blessings of following and serving God, in Jesus Holy Name, by the power of The Holy Spirit.
Yes, doing yoga is practicing spiritual adultery, against God.
First time and only time I did a basic Yoga class and they all chanted I immediately discerned something wrong but afterwards I felt physically amazing. I just want to stretch man!!!
Go ahead and stretch! There's nothing wrong with that and there's diff kinda of stretching programs. That when you put yourself around these other spiritual things it will pull you in. Your mind will start to turn to that while in a group. It's dangerous. Your discernment was right and you must listen to the Holy Spirit when He tells you something is wrong. God bless
I’m glad I found yoga for pain relief. For me, I don’t see evil entities being involved in the Americanized yoga I do with a trauma group. My health has improved greatly and I don’t even use a cane to walk anymore!
Now if you have a moral or religious problem with practicing it, then staying away makes sense. For me, I don’t see anything wrong with it.
I’m new to your show it’s great 👍 I’ve been binge watching. I think pagan rituals are dangerous in general because on the surface it’s all cupcakes and rainbows but the deeper you dive the uglier things get. I’m a deep diver myself so I’m cautious as a Christian of what I do that influences my children.
Useful insight. Thks
If in part two, you could ask christine what she does for stretching and just yoga alternatives in general thatd be a blessing. Im a young christian woman seeking to honor the lord with everything I do and have not done yoga, but the culture all around is saying I should a long with friends and family. I am striving to get those health benefits i.e ralaxing and stretching without opening my self to demonic entities and would love to hear about christines stretching routines that are healthy and God honoring :)
There is a Christian form of this based on the Hebrew alphabet instead. It is called Praise Moves in OKC
There also is Christian Yoga Association, they use scripture when doing the yoga movements. Also YogaFaith uses scripture in their yoga movements.
I am a former yoga teaching candidate. I follow a lot of Physical Therapists for stretching and weight lift.
Yoga is not enough for your body anyway ..everyone should be lifting weights (unless your doctor says otherwise) for healthy bones.
Pilates/Barre is great for stretch and strength and Physical Therapists have amazing videos.
Pilates/Barre is great for stretch and strength and Physical Therapists have amazing videos.
We are told over and over again in scripture avoid the worship systems of the pagan (worshipers of other gods). We must not take part in it with them, but instead expose them as frauds. Pointing them to the true I Am. God tells us over and over again, he telegraphs the narrative; Worship me according to how I have shown you, with a pure heart toward me...that is a sweet savor to him!
@moken7 you should write a book about it
I see tattoos all over you guys....aren’t those pagan as well? Just sayin’
Yeah, there's a bible verse against tattoos.
@@jgunn03 no, no there’s not. Exegesis, context and historical facts are important.
@@jgunn03 that verse is about a cultural thing where tribes of the time we’re marking their bodies FOR THE DEAD.
@@Tre492 1) What do you mean by 'marking their bodies FOR THE DEAD'? What's wrong with 'marking their bodies FOR THE DEAD'? What verse states that they were 'marking their bodies FOR THE DEAD'?
2) What diff does it make? The verse stating to not mark bodies doesn't make any acceptions. I just realized both homonyms work ~exceptions or acceptions. This is too cool!
@@Tre492 Uh, please give me the info on how all your stupid nonsense excuses make sense.
Did anyone else get an add for yoga in this video?
So if I move my body in a specific position all of this knowledge and understanding of the Hindu religion will start flowing through my mind?
You gotta be careful... it's very dangerous.... you might end up blasting a hole in the wall with a Kamehameha wave... very dangerous...
@@evenruderanger7617 I learned not to judge people upon my perspective on things but on the perspective of the Bible. But even so, I still try not to because I could be wrong one day and mess it up. Though I don't do yoga and find it difficult to actually do, the basis of it is spiritual and not physical. Like they said, "Hey yoga is not for stretching, it's for spiritual... (something.)" So just don't do it. I'm sure there are other ways to get the stretch.
@@evenruderanger7617 haha nah. I was just commenting on each point they were making.
@@mbcfelix2362 it's not difficult to do, it gets very easy just a few days in, I do it after waking up because my body used to feel like it got ran over by a truck after a night in bed
So if we are trying to stop other Christians from doing things that have non-Christian backgrounds, why don't you tell people to not use Christmas trees and reefs on Christmas??? Pagan ritual during the solstice that would take place at the same time as what became the Christian Christmas and we then took in some of their traditions. Just wondering how far this line of thinking would go.
Agreed, this sounds like legalism more than anything. God knows our hearts
A valid question. But whether yoga is right or wrong does not depend on Christmas Trees. It is a topic on it’s own. But surely, it should be discussed, just without throwing everything into one pot at once.
@@LOT116 fair enough
There are lots of Christians who don’t observe Christmas for this very reason.
@@NataliePowellAGreytLife I think that not celebrating Christmas at all is a kinda throwing out the baby with the bath water.
I agree that some features of Christmas are questionable but the same things goes also for Easter.
I don’t need a Christmas tree, I don’t need eggs or bunnies for Easter. But that doesn’t mean celebrating those holidays is wrong.
I don’t believe also that not celebrating is wrong :)
As I also don’t reject physical excersise all together because I reject Yoga.
I like Pilates. I done yoga classes before. I don’t really know much about the other things. It was mostly stretching, no mediation. I only use it purely for workout. I don’t know anything about the mediation or religious part of it.
Feel the same, i love it for the stretch and when they combine some pilates moves with it you can get a nice burn. I ignore the other parts. Meditation + stretching is good for you...when you start making things more than they are, especially in a spiritual/religious sense, is when you get primed for being taken advantage of :(
Well that's the thing, though. The poses themselves are the worship, you can't separate that unless you're not holding the poses and therefore not doing yoga. Stretching, calisthenics, pilates lots of exercises that stretch and challenge the the body are available without being a spiritual practice. The problem is society has been conditioned to think this is or can be just exercise, but that's entirely false. It's a spiritual practice that utilizes the body similar to exercise. But saying it's OK to practice as a Christian is like saying we can take part in a Muslim worship practice or tradition of any other religion and just ignore the spiritual aspect. We can't do that, it just doesn't work like that.
@@waymakerwellness “Every time you watch the Olympics or participate in a sprinting event, you honor an Ancient Greek pagan practice that was invented to glorify the Gods. You can’t disconnect the 100m dash from its Pagan roots, the act itself is glorifying pagan Gods”
That’s how you sound right now
What do I do if I just want to stretch? Just do the flexibility positions to keep my body healthy? What do I do for that?
Lol I live where we are opposite Jeremiah lol in the winter, some question what they live here for(in my 37 years the coldest I can remember us getting to is -58..Celsius) our summers are prob more like your winters😂I’m northern Saskatchewan Canada. Loving the content from apologia💜💚❤️🔥
Hey Jeff! I was wondering what you think about training martial arts. I have done GoJu ryu for 9 years but within the last year I have had some doubts about whether I can do it with a clean conscience. My problem with it is that it has a spiritual background coming from other religions. Just wanted your thoughts. Thanks and God bless.
There are two questions you’ve got to ask yourself first. The first being: Does this activity cause you to sin or struggle with sin? Do you feel guilty doing this, or can you continue doing this in a way that isn’t sinful and maybe even brings glory to God? Then the second question, does this cause those around you to sin or to struggle with their sin?
We can see these questions being asked in 1st Corinthians, specifically chapters 8-10, which talks about the church of Corinth eating food that was sacrificed to idols. Some of the christians during that time had no problem eating the food because they knew logically that all food comes from God, however they were putting a stumbling block in front of their fellow christians who were more sensitive to eating food sacrificed to idols, and leading someone to sin is sinful in itself.
A more modern day version of this issue is whether or not a christian should drink alcohol. There’s nothing inherently wrong with drinking alcohol, in fact wine is often used as a symbolic blessing throughout the scriptures, but when abused can lead to drunkenness, which is considered sinful. Some christians can handle alcohol well and therefore don’t become drunk, other christians handle alcohol badly and therefore have to stay away from it. Neither one has done anything wrong. But what is wrong is offending your fellow christians, either indirectly by drinking alcohol in front of someone who is sensitive to it, or directly by claiming all christians should or shouldn’t drink alcohol therefore imposing your views or morals onto others.
God creates everyone differently, with different tolerances and different interests. I think if you are not yourself offended by your martial arts training then it’s ok to practice it, especially if the people around you aren’t as familiar with the spiritual background as you are. Who knows, may be you have been anointed by God to do something great with this. But if it pricks at your conscience, if it causes either you or others to sin, you got to let it go.
@@DGolden247 Hey man, I decided to let it go a couple months ago. Thanks for your biblical perspective.
@@ryanarmstrong6512 Oh ok, I hope things are going well for you.
@@DGolden247 Yep, going well. God bless man.
Just do jiu jitsu nothing evil about learning to protect yourself and your family
Also, can you guys update your Cultists Playlist to include all the episodes?
Who else had a yoga ad come up during this? Lol
Really appreciate this video. Many questions answered. So you’re saying we shouldn’t do these even with our minds on God? I understand and don’t understand...
Correct. You cannot separate the Hindu pagan aspects to simply "Get the physical benefit." The poses, names of positions, vocalizations etc. are all Hindu and pagan. Utilize pilates or any number of physical therapy based stretches to get a similar physical benefit.
@@jackjones3657 There is literally no difference. It's just semantics. You can do a yoga workout without believing in hinduism.
Hey beloved. I practiced yoga for over 20 years, even taught it. I started to feel 'off' in my spirit so I tried 'holy yoga' for some time. Thing is, what fellowship hath light with darkness? It's trying to blend something detestable (bowing to other gods) with Christianity. I,hope this helps...i feel you🙏🏽
You cant do yoga with your mind on God. Yoga requires emptying your mind of thoughts.
Every single yoga pose, is paying homage to a hindu god and/or re-enacting elements of hindu stories about their gods. The recent video on doreen virtue's channel, goes into a lot of detailed explanation on this.
"You cannot drink from the cup of the Lord and from the cup of demons, too. You cannot eat at the Lord’s Table and at the table of demons, too."
It makes me think of Romans when Paul says we don't do bad so that good may come.
“There is no yoga without Hinduism and no Hinduism without yoga.” You can rationalize it all you want and say how it works for you, but there is no separation of the physical and spiritual aspects of yoga. Just because something works doesn’t make it good or Godly.
Let’s do it
My dad and I do yoga and we love it. We are devout Christians. We take classes at a small gym for older people. It’s for fitness. It’s helped my dad’s old back and it’s helped strengthen the muscles around my ankle I broke twenty years ago. It’s just exercise with lots of stretching. There’s no crazy spiritual stuff going on. We have a nice instructor who teaches other classes like cardio, Zumba, etc.
She said that it is part of a Hindu religious practice..and the Bible says not to practice religious practices of other religions.
It's around 24 minutes.. listen from about 24 to 27 minutes
Go to the dictionary and look up Yoga.
I dont think you watched the video
You simply can't be a christian and keep practicing yoga. That's simply a paradox.
Look up "Gods of the New Age" a great documentary by Jeremiah Films. It covers yoga in it.
I thought this wasn't unbiased but it is. Thanks for sharing any way.
Who said this would be "unbiased"? I mean that's like going to Chick-fil-A, looking for a burger. They're speaking from a Christian perspective. I'm not sure what you expected them to say. Unless you are more used to the New Age people who say anything goes as long as it makes people feel good.
@@Whol3NothaL3v3l I just found this video yesterday, I clicked start and noticed it was biased. It's was not like I knew this channel. In the title it seems general. I was interested in watch something about cults. I was respectful and left the comment for another person, that lands in this video just like I did.
@@viiIeiraS Maybe there is a reason you just happened to land on this video. Something to consider.
When I saw this, I got SUPER excited becayse I've been wondering about this and honestly I don't trust the Fundamentalist to cover this, cause they sometimes believe every other thing should not be practiced even with freedom in Christ
Evenrude Ranger I mean, often times Fundamentalists (I mean this in the Independent Fundamentalist Baptist sense of the word) claim we should not do certain things even when we have been given freedom to take part in certain things (such as eating the meat of animals sacrificed to pagan gods and the modern equivalencies) because of Jesus’ redeeming of us
These guys are not ifb they are reformed Baptists that is a huge difference. These guys are Calvinists
@@oshea2300 yes. I’m saying I’m happy to see a non-fundamentalist cover this topic
It is truly sad that so many Christians will not listen to this. I have been saying this for a long time. We wrestle not against flesh and blood but... Praise Moves in OKC has created a program that is stretching based on the Hebrew alphabet instead of the Hindu religion.
Wait up. Re: the health benefits of climbing stairs to sacrifice a child analogy - it mixes categories coz you then kill someone at the top of the stairs. For someone who knows that stretching in the morning drops stress hormone levels and helps their back not hurt, surely this is more equivalent to eating meat sacrificed to idols?
Scott, that is what I was thinking as well.
15:28 one of my teachers would read that devotional to the class a lot and I always felt a bit weird about it, I didn’t like that it jumped around with Bible verses it referenced so much it seemed like they wrote the devotional they wanted to and tried to find verses to support what they wanted it to say after
It’s interesting that she was agreeing that “opening your heart” physically opens you up to all kinds of other spiritual influences that are not good for you... So she does still believe in chakras/energy centers and their power?
I think it speaks more to the idea of demonic oppression.
@5 The Hare Krishna movement (technically called ISKCON, which is the group you're referring to, as the Hare Krishna movement goes back 500+ years and today tends to include many folks who have nothing to do with ISKCON) actually says NOT to do western yoga. You can do Indian authentic yoga, IF you want, but its not necessary and can lead to problems. Srila Prabhupada who incorporated ISCKON, bringing the Hare Krishna movement to America in the 1960's, he wrote in his translation of the Bhagavad Gita NOT to do yoga, that the whole thing is corrupt. He writes this many many many times in the Gita. That really should raise eyebrows - that one of the greatest teachers of modern Hinduism (Sanatana Dharma) says to avoid it. It would be like if the Beatles had a comment on rock'n'roll, everyone would notice.
Okay so are you telling me then that if somebody who can't find peace without doing yoga should only rely on God should you also tell people who have realized that exercising gives them peace and them doing that plus spending time with God gives them the most peace is wrong they just focus strictly on God when God may be even gave us exercise and ways of stretching in order for us to be able to find peace with him?
A few periods, commas, colons, and semicolons would give your comment some intelligible meaning, whereby someone could possibly answer your question. As it reads now, you have run-on sentences, sentence fragments and subjects with no verbs all mashed together. It makes no sense.
I was using speech to talk and it was picking it up in a weird way.. But sorry it was too hard for you to read (sarcasm because it really isn't that hard to get the point of the comment XD). You are just being difficult. But that is fine! Bless you both!
When people resort to attacking grammar it only proves they're afraid of the question.
The Vegan community is overflowing with new age terminology and imagery, as a Christian it’s difficult and I am constantly challenged on my faith.
For me, I turn to Gen 1:29-30 and recognise that it was Gods original plan.
(Dominion does not mean “Dominate”; it means “kingdom” and that we should rule, care for and protect the animals... not torture and slaughter 75 billion every year.)
Bottom line, Intent, what are you doing it for, are you understanding of the previous "religious" context that it may have originated in, to involve yourself with what you "perceive" as spirits for purposes of worship of false deities (spirits are all around us, the spiritual world is intertwined with the physical world; inseparable, in the beg God crt. Heaven(s) and Earth, whole caste of spiritual Elohim/beings that are past or perception), just because something originated in a false religion, or among the impious (to Yahweh), doesn't make it condemnation, I'm sure lots of medicines and practices, (even hobbies even foods etc. have been) aren't to be thrown out the window, just cause it "didn't originate" from a Christian/(or ancient Israelite religion). This is false labeling for damnation, spoiling the consciousness of many actual believers, and making them believe that certain innocent (partially due to ignorance of previous contexts ex. yoga, Hinduism) practices, hobbies, exercises, foods, etc. Planting thoughts, that will be nourished, bringing forth a weak consciousness which is gullible to believe whatever the "Pharaisee-ic" ringleaders of Christianity present for us to be confused and confounded, drawing divisions amongst us, like.....Babylon. Something being inherently spiritual is damnable......what about Kain, and his descendants, in Nod, and later expanding making cities and building houses, and making instruments......Ok well Houses are bad, lets not live in them, instruments, demonic, originated from the son of the evil one and whatever type of rebellious mindset he was peddling to his children in they're knowledge. I can agree with not wanting to go to a studio, but if one was to go to a Chinese restaurant or Indian, and not go anymore cause you seen different false god's on the wall? ….And chakras correspond to certain regions of the spine/ CNS, the energy would most likely be electrical energy from the bodies neurotransmitters, freeing up the circuitry, to allow better flow of energy from the brain (root) through the spine (stem) to peripheral nervous system, the limbs (branches). Practices, originating from false deities, sound like we need to better address "Christian Holidays", and our continuous celebration of such...people just want views, if you can't drink Kombucha cause it has a lotus flower that God created on it, that people took, and associated with "sinful" "pagan" symbolism is just disgusting (not kombucha i love that stuff), stain everyone's consciousness and have them anxious about sinning, and serpent energy....don't act like serpents are bad, what about the Seraphim, who are in the presence of the most high saying Qadosh Qadosh Qadosh Yahweh Tzevaot(h).....the spiritual ramifications of concepts of damnation that you created/ing in the hearts of believers.....please don't, "if it's pulling you away from God" then it is damnable but food can do that, doctors can do that (anything putting faith in the creation over the Creator (who is blessed for every Amen) , who has been revealed through his creation so that we are without excuse of his existence) Find peace with God, through his word, his son, Jesus Christ, the only mediator between the invisible uncreated God Yahweh, and the visible creation, so that we can come to oneness with him, and put on the full image of God, just as he did, does, and will forever.
Why don’t you guys actually bring on an expert who can speak for the culture you are smashing instead of mindlessly circling and agreeing with each other
Seems like this lady was an expert. 🤷🏻♂️
@@jasongraham5648 riiiiight lol
I don’t do yoga but I would like to know what scriptures say that we should not do things that might have origins with other cultures/religions. Not saying she is wrong in her assertion that the Bible is clear about this. I want to know for my own edification.
Also, How does the issue of meat in the market place relate to this if someone is doing the poses for the physical aspects. Also is it wrong to do a singular pose if you have not figured out how to get the same stretch if you are struggling with tightness in a particular part of the body?
@Gale Drive “what scriptures” as in actual references in the Bible. If she repeated scripture references, feel free to post them, book, chapter, and verse
@Gale Drive Obviously it wasn’t crystal clear to me personally which scripture she’s referring to because I’m not a mind reader and prefer not to make assumptions. I find that being SPECIFIC about the scripture references and how they were exegeted make for a better teaching and discussion. Teachers are to be held accountable for what they teach. Period. Clarity supports one’s credibility. Deuteronomy is a very broad reference.
Yoga literally hurts xD whatever “benefit” is totally negated for me just on a physical level. Not to mention the spiritual consequences.
What about pilates? Is that still connected to yoga?
What about the “Christ” centered yoga I’ve heard about... ? Trying to understand better
Incompatible Phrase. Its joining together hindiusm and Christianity. Syncretism. Many churches adopt it because they are trying to appeal to the world by culture, yet dont rely enough on the power and sufficiency of His Word and Spirit. Steven bancarz and doreen virtue are good resources. Basically; to be holy as God is Holy is a high standard. We will never to be sinless in this life, but we must strive to submit ourselves to God with all our being an lives. We need to be separate and not like the world but submitting everything to scripture. When we fail, we turn from sin and trust in Christ's sufficient victory over sin and death. Hope that helps :)
There is Praise Moves in OKC that each stretch is based on the Hebrew alphabet instead.
There's a great channel called 'non yoga stretches' it's awesome. She used to teach 'Christian yoga'. Her testimony might help❤
So I can do yoga as long as I don't go to a studio and I just do it by myself and not think about the gods? This is just a weird critique in my opinion on how Christians should live their life
You do realize you can do whatever you want? They’re giving their opinion. On their channel. It’s really not that serious buddy. If you don’t believe in the spirituality behind yoga, and what it truly stands for... then good for you. You don’t have to. You can laugh and think whatever. But people are allowed to be cautious stretching their bodies into poses that are worshipping gods with said poses. As a Christian, yeah that might just be alarming. If you assume spiritual warfare is real and there’s a possibility of allowing demons to enter your space and oppress you, then maybe practicing some ancient Hindu god worship isn’t gonna be up your alley. You do you though. But watching people writhe around on the floor from having a Kundalini awakening is a freaky thing to see. That’s all I’m saying. That whole “serpent” S shape starting at the base of your spine, to awaken all of your chakras, moving its way up to the pineal gland eventually... to become “enlightened”. That’s the point of it. Very mystic and new-agey. Like other people have said, there’s a million other simple ways to stretch that don’t involve bringing a spiritual practice into it.
@@aubreygraham981 i have never seen anyone who does yoga have any sort of episode like that. maybe people who are engaged and understand the true meaning of the poses could have that experience. Many of our sports teams even in High School had to do yoga.... and no one ever started convulsing or anything like that. This is their channel and they can say whatever they want. But the video is also public and puts itself up to critique... This video is legalism at its finest in Christianity. Meaning losing focus on why we follow Christ and what He is doing in our lives and missing out on the blessings because we focus on this stuff instead....
To be honest, it sounds like you've already made up your mind on the topic. So instead of trying to change your mind, I'll just say what changed mine.
Knowing the origins of yoga, it's poses, and it's intimate connection with Hinduism. That's not legalism, that's objective information. What we do with our bodies is important! That's made very plain in Scripture.
To be a little crass, it's kind of like cheating on God but then going back to Him saying "No no, I was thinking about You the whole time!" Very far from a perfect analogy, but I think it illustrates what I'm trying to say reasonably well.
For me, it didn't sit well to call myself a Christian while I practiced another religion with my body. So, I don't do that anymore lol 🤷♀️
I am a Christian who does not know much about yoga and not interested in it I am watching but I never saw how this is a bad thing. It is a physical exercise as far as I can tell--people just have just added a bunch of gobble-de-gook rhetoric to certain body poses. I don't think God is against this. At least you haven't pointed out exactly why. It certainly isn't as bad as what is being fed our youth today. What is coming out of Hollywood is really horrible for them. This isn't harmful. It seems to be a paranoid fear that you are experiencing if you fear this. It isn't anti-God. The church comes after you the same way she mentions the yoga teachers do. You need to point out any exact reasons why it is harmful. There is no mention of it in the Bible because I think it was not around when it was written.
@Barbie Blues That's possible. But until I see something to "hate", I will not use hateful rhetoric against it. I see much from Hollywood to hate but little condemnation from Christians. I see little condemnation from those supposedly against pedophilia towards Netflix's "Cuties". I see no condemnation of Cardi B's WOP song. Find out what WOP stands for. Listen to those lyrics. See her Oscars' Awards inactments of lesbian sex. That is where my disdain goes. And plain and simple, I do know where I have directed my comments here IS blatantly detrimental to our youth. Time for everyone to wake up to the trash all around you, not what's out of sight in some gym.
Every yoga pose is a physical prayer to false gods. I'm pretty sure that's IS against God. Indian Christians would never practice yoga because they know it is essentially a Hindu practice.
Exploring the dangers of yoda
If it's an evil spirit isn't that real?
Wow, overlaps a bit with shamanism (just watched Doreen’s video on shamanism). Getting rid of the physical as to get beyond to the spiritual
This podcast is building a following based on hating every religion and spiritual group but theirs. Isn't that what cults do? They are the only ones woke that have it right. I would rather spend time teaching love than hate. It's easy to find someone to speak out against any group.
Stretching isn’t a sin and for being a power lifter like I am, it keeps things moving
They aren't talking about stretching.
They are talking about the beliefs behind Yoga
I just want to say paramhamsa yogananda and his teacher sriyukteshvar did NOT teach an ascetic life style. They taught “give the body its due, no less.” And no more.
I 100%, completely do not feel as though I am going against God while doing Yoga. I am not totally immersed in the Hindu Religion but am lightly familiar with their beliefs. I also believe that I can appreciate teachings from all different religions without destroying my soul or going to hell. I would also argue that 99% of the women in the classes that I am in, are participating to have some peace and quite and to look good in yoga pants. The vast majority of people that I know that take yoga are doing this as a form of exercise and it has absolutely nothing to do with religion.
Totally agree. If someone wants to make yoga a religion they could.... but isn’t that kind of true about any hobby or activity? Things are what you make them. This lady may have delved into the spiritual side but that doesn’t mean everyone that goes to a class regularly is going to do that. It is important to be aware of the spiritual aspect so you know not to fall into that but I dont think most mainstream yoga classes push much more than a quieting of the mind. That’s not wrong “Be still and know that I am God”. Psalms 46:10
Did you watch the video?
@@Weissguys6 i watched the whole video and part 2 as well
@@juliebaird4539 the question was to Stacy.
You can’t separate the yoga moves from the spirituality. There is no justification for it.
I think chakras are real, but that doesnt mean we are supposed to mess with them.
Chakras are concepts that reflect a certain reality. Is that reality good? Over the passed 10 or so years knowing about chakras and meditating on them. I have learned that no, they are not a “good” or holy reality. I sometimes still will feel a surge of energy in my crown chakra while learning and talking about Christ. So idk. Interesting point taco eater xD definitely something to think about.
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lol sad reacts only
@ 21:42 she almost says the word "shit" and then catches herself and says "stuff".
Oh my goodness, I guess we can’t listen to anything she says then.
Patricia Walden's "Yoga for Beginners" is the BEST yoga video ever! Super-great. Highly recommended.
OK, these boys are whackadoo. Blocking the channel. Bye bye.
It's tricky because at the beginning of the podcast they state that she is somewhat of an expert on yoga, but then when they are delving into the "nitty-gritty" of the background of it, she doesn't actually know the details. It's fine if you realise you have placed something in your life as an idol and repent of it and move forward, closer to God etc, but let's not pretend that this is a fact-based critique of when it is mainly focused on feelings of peace and one's personal experience.
Good on ya, separated brethren. Yoga is insidious - best way to explain it is that it’s like the muhammadan call to prayer. Btw the late great Dr. Walter w/ a strong cultish sode today - get it up on the Tube - the Only Church of History (see: Bride; see also:Romish) has provided this Member with thoughts to share/corrections to make - though fewer than expected. With that being said, whatever the heck Martin was or claimed to be, I praise God for he did the celeb human cone bit for the beautiful dunking the Holy Alter Christus - Father Pacwa did on that 80s cool talkshow.
Ps: your guest remains Catholic - Jesus claims her!
21:44 she said shit? It really sounds like it and that it was cut out.
Possibly a stutter.
Is there going to be a podcast about people delivered from the dudes at cultish?
“I was so lost and confused, and then I found these mega church evangelicals, and they set me free...”
Did you watch the video or just come here to cause dissension?
@@Weissguys6 I’m a regular viewer, and a religious man, but it is pretty funny for religious people to cast stones at other people’s religious convictions....I’m just as stupid and crazy as these guys, and rich white girls who yoga, and the wells church dudes....the difference is these guys don’t seem to recognize that about themselves.
‘Cult’ is just a pejorative for ‘religion’
@@Weissguys6 I’m a Catholic and Catholics sometimes express a similar view about yoga. That the stretches are inherently diabolical because they’re part of really wacky branch of Hindu practices.
It’s just that idea makes no sense. It’s possible to do secular yoga as exercise insofar as the stretches in yoga are identical to normal stretching exercises born outside of yoga. Yoga practices are like 90% hamstring stretches for instance. Are ballerinas, martial artists, and suburban moms ALL invoking a demon disguised as a Hindu god every time the simply bend over at the hips and stretch their hamstrings?
Sometimes my one year old gets in a downward dog position without any prior knowledge about yoga....do I need to call an exorcist?
The intention an internal disposition is what matters here, not the external practice. Just as much a vocal prayer without intentional centering on the worship of and union with God, in and through Jesus Christ, is an empty gesture, so too is stretching in any way that resembles yoga as a religious practice.
If it were true, what they are saying here, then I’d be accidentally guilty of idolatry every single time I bent over to pick something off of the ground.
Also I just want to say I’m not singling out “white suburban women” because this is a demographic I think poorly of in anyway (I do not think poorly of such people).....only that it’s a demographic that I believe dominates the practice of yoga in the United States.
My wife does yoga apps and yoga off RUclips and she’s a holy woman. A true servant of God. She doesn’t heed the occasionally fluffy religious things they say whiles she’s stretching anymore than I regard the stuff obiwan kenobi or Yoda says when I’m watching Star Wars. I dismiss it because I have my own mind.
I think the reason people might get swept away with yoga’s religious culture is when their own religious culture, and their connection to the church is weak. If you don’t have a prayer life, a religious education, or a deep interpersonal bond to the society of your church, then yoga will sweep you away into its own society....soon you’ll be talking some superficial Hindu, but you’ll also become a vegetarian, maybe start drinking weird teas or juicing, listening to New Age music, become a feminist, start shopping at Whole Foods, and you’ll get a neck tattoo for some reason.
With religion we’re looking for social unity and belonging. So if your conventional religion is weak then yoga culture , or Star Wars super fandom, will be right there waiting to snatch you away as an alternative
@@creativecatproductions social unity and belonging are the goals of your “religion?” How tragic.
The goal of my “religion” if we must use that term is a relationship with Jesus Christ my Lord and Savior and the eternal life that He imparts.
As a believer, I will do NOTHING that may bring him disrespect or dishonor. I will not hurt the Heart that suffered the Cross in my place under any circumstances.
My sister has been a Yoga instructor for over 20 years and now trains instructors. She is deeply into Buddhism and Hinduism and will gladly inform you of the “religion” of Yoga.
Perhaps these men did not make make a clear enough case, I will agree but that does not free you from researching the practices your wife is engaged in and bringing into your home. That is your responsibility as husband and father.
There's a move to take all the religion out of yoga. Remove all the foreign words, names, beliefs, etc and make it just like another exercise. I applaud those folks for seeing where there is problems, but what remains I still think is questionable.
When God said not to worship Him as the nations worship their gods, He very explicitly gave reason that they did abominable things in their worship like infanticide. God never said stretching or taking care of your health was abominable. We need to refer back to what Paul said about eating meat offered to idols. It’s basically a “don’t ask/don’t tell” kind of policy. Don’t ask them if their meat was offered to an idol, but if they tell you that it was you shouldn’t partake of it. You are going against Paul’s judgment in this matter and adding restrictions where God himself did not. By your own rationale, because there are pagans that focus on their breathing during meditation, you should stop breathing altogether.
I think it's a detriment to call the Chakra practice not real, Jesus acknowledged that the spirit real and working in that real was real and to avoid it all cost.... not that it was fake
Every yogi knows hot yoga or bikraham yoga is not considered true yoga. Its a western style invention and does not carry the prper principals...been a yogi for over 30 years
Bikram may indeed be a watered down version of yoga, but more traditional forms of yoga with the "proper principles" is going to be even more anathema to a Christian who believes in Jesus as the Only Begotten Son of God than westernized yoga. What you call "the proper principles" is exactly what they are objecting to. They aren't objecting to the physical stretching. Your belief is likely that Hinduism is superior to Christianity, and you're free to believe however you like, but traditional yoga is absolutely Hinduism, as you well know if you've been a yogi for 30 years.
Yoga is marketed as fitness to pull the wool over our eyes and Buddhist idols are sold in gardening shops instead of from temples. I didn't know these idols were statues of Buddha. Very sneaky.
Yoga doesn't increase your heart rate, so it doesn't improve your heart health. It can't help you lose weight. In fact, many people would need to lose weight before they could do yoga, so I don't see any health benefits to yoga.
She was a yoga instructor for how many years? And she doesn't know the 7 chakras. Sounds a bit suspect to me.
You can definitely do yoga as an exercise and not get involved with any weird new age anti-christian zealotry. I'm sure there are folks who would be and are swept away by false spiritual teaching. But, we should also remember the majority of folks who do it to stretch and exercise. I could name dozens who do just that. This could easily get to slippery slope where all exercising is pagan, regardless of you believing in or actively worshipping those pagan gods.
18:53 mark to 19:55
Okay, I have been enjoying your discussions but this one, well it is stupid. Yoga is a way to exercise for everyone. It is a bonding for people in a group or a way to care for your "self". Is having a runner's "high" also against your church teachings? this is just silly
I have a minister friend whose congregation wanted to include yoga classes, cause there is now "christian yoga." She said no. She came to me, as I'm Hindu, to get a second opinion. I said, no. Don't. Don't open that door. Don't do it. I don't even do it. I won't touch western yoga with a 10 foot pole. I find it an insult to the religion I study hard about and believe in. I find Bikram a fraud guru.
I stopped when I was told poses were to demonic spirits!
um that's not true. don't believe everything you hear.
Smart girl.
Oof that moloch argument comparing that to yoga was quite a straw man if I've ever seen one
Yoga by definition is Hindu prayer. If you just want to stretch then call it stretching… 🤔
No it's not a Hindu prayer I take it you know nothing about Hinduism. That's like saying giving a b****** is Christian prayer cuz you do it on your knees. If you don't learn don't talk
And also you clearly know nothing about yoga it's not just stretching. You do realize you live in the age of information you can learn anything you want why do you choose not to
Why don't Asian Christians educate their western congregations about what yoga really is? I have only seen Western people speak out about yoga. Why don't asian Christians protect us and our family and friends?