WARNING Checking a firearm on American Airlines made me miss my flight Checking a gun at the airport
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- Опубликовано: 1 авг 2024
- Checking a firearm on American Airlines was a challenge this trip! Flying with a firearm may have some inconsistencies so watch this video. I used the same container to check my gun on an airplane plenty of times but it was denied this time!
Greyman..I salute you for your transparency to pass on the knowledge of this minor setback. I’m sure you know it could have been much worse like multiple delays and maybe the rubber glove. God bless you and stay vigilant.
You are 100% correct! Thanks for watching! 💯💯💪🏾
Thank you! Saved me from taking a case similar to this through the airport for my first time flying with a firearm.
Glad I could help! Sharing our experiences and knowledge helps us all. Thanks for watching bro! 💯💯💯
Wow! Best and most straightforward video on how to fly w a firearm. Don’t like the airport experience at all so typically if I can’t drive I don’t go but have wondered about what it is like to fly w a firearm and you just cleared it up for me. Truly a fine service to the gun community. Thank you!!
Appreciate it! Thanks for watching.
Partner you are a very lucky man that since you did not meet criteria with weapon to be on scheduled flight , normally you must pay for the other flight...the flight representative did the correct procedure and gave you a break by rescheduling you on another flight free of charge....take care , lessons learned , great you shared your situation...
Thanks for the good lesson. Must have been really frustrating
No doubt JS it was pretty frustrating but I learned a good lesson. Thanks for watching.
Wow this was crazy helpful, man. Thank you for posting this! 🙏🏻
Glad it was helpful. Thanks for watching! 💯💯
Thank you so much for this video. Im traveling with a firearm for the first time soon and this helped massively!
Great video! Thanks for the advice! Quick tip: I don't recommend the sig case either. Lock the box with 2 locks and get a magnet. The external hinge is exposed. Use the magnet to pull the pins out and the box will open from the back. Someone could easily steal it and replace the pins...
Appreciate it Shawn! Thanks for the tip! Since this happened, I've just been using the new case with zero issues. I just want everyone to know that there are some TSA/Airline inconsistencies and you could go quite a while without being stopped and one day, damn, they get you!
@@greyman470 I haven't flow with a Firearm and your video helped out thanks again! Did you try the magnet?
I ran into the same issue in Houston. Had been flying with the same case forever. Ended up having to purchase a rifle case and locks from the airline since they were out of pistol cases. Barely made my flight.
Yeah it sucks when that happens! Hoping others will be able to avoid the trouble. Thanks for watching! 💯💯💯
Great Video! The upside is the the smaller case is so compact it will leave you more space in suitcase or what ever you put it in.
Appreciate it! 💯💯
Very informative video. Thank you!
I use a Pelican 1170 because you can't pry it open. I was also told no TSA LOCKS because the key is not unique enough. To override the combination
It will fit in a checked bag.
Those rules are on TSA website
Thanks for dropping the lines Mike! You did the right thing by getting what you have. The TSA supervisor told me that there is a lot of inconsistencies across the board from airport to airport. Thanks for watching!
Thank you!
Phew, saved me from the possible headache from using a soft plastic case. This is my first time coming up flying with my gun.
Glad you were able to find this information helpful! Thanks for watching!
Any luck or issues?
Thanks for saving me a headache, my plastic case has the same issue. Appreciate the video!
Glad it helped! Thanks for watching bro! 💯💯
Great info. I can see the airline's point. If some dishonest baggage handler can pry that open a bit more, they might be able to get to the firearm. I bought a hard case LifePod that looks a lot like the one you have.
Lifepod is good stuff. Thanks for watching!
Very informative. Many thanks
Thanks for watching! 💯💯
I am about to take a flight! Thanks for the heads up!
Safe travels! 💯💯
Absolutely awesome video. Thank you Sir! So the ammo can be put in the general checked in bag an not in the gun case? is that correct? Thanks again!
I’m not sure if the ammo can be just inside the checked bag and not locked. I believe it can because when I was there, they told me you were only allowed so many pounds of ammo which was way more than I could get into that gun case. I’d suggest doing more research on that one. Appreciate you!!
Valuable information. Get one of the steel cases with a keylock. Any gunstore has them. Inexpensive. Consistent applicatin of rules across many companies and the government is too much to exxpeect.
Agreed! Thanks John!
Great info- thanks!
Appreciate it!
Don’t know why people having issues missing flights or almost missing their flight when people been traveling with checked guns in luggage for a long time now, should b nothing new to any airport!!.
I agree! Just took another flight with a checked pistol and the American Airline agents (3 of them!) didn’t know how to proceed it and had to ask TSA!! Really???
Thanks!!!
Thank you for the info Greyman💯🖤🔫
Thanks for watching Pharaoh! Much appreciated!
Since you can’t travel with knives ? Can you put a pocket knife in your firearms case ? Is that aloud? This was very helpful cause I have the Walther pdp and it comes with the same case you had issues with. I’ll go out and get a better one . Thanks 🙏
Thanks , great info especially flying outta Jax
Thanks for watching! 💯💯
Thank you for the video. It really helps. I’m in Florida. You can have it inbox me and I can put you in on some things. now I’ve seen videos from TSA and others saying they do not want you to use to use a lock. They will not even talk with me. I am text him. I’ve been online. I have been on the phone for an hour. yes, I just picked up two pelicans, one pistol and rifle. Even then I’ve seen videos on RUclips, where they get turned away with those specially because of the locks.
Thanks for watching! TSA always have me lock the case after they inspect it. It has to be locked so that nobody can get into it. I hope you have better luck. 💯💯
Thank you for this video, I was about to use a very similar sig case. Luckily I had a different kind of case that would work better.
Glad the video helped! Thanks for watching.
Was just about to fly American airlines Monday for work with that exact case, figured it would be the best one because of the two holes for locks.
I have the same box that I am using for air travel for the same thing happened to me with a case that could be opened slightly. Check the new metal box. Some have a metal clasp inside and some cheap plastic. I had one broken into that was plastic.
Yeah that experience was bad. The one I have now is all metal. Thanks for watching Mitch! 💯💯
I just had the same problem today with American Airlines they told me they have there own “Rules” that are different than TSA and more strict.
Yeah that’s so frustrating! Did you eventual get through?
Maaaaan, I was about to drill holes in my plastic Glock case handle, for padlocks. 😆 About to go on my first flight EVER…I would hate to have this headache.
Yeah Bruh! That was def. a headache! Glad you were able make necessary changes before your flight! Appreciate your support! 💪🏾💪🏾💯💯
Glad to know they will deny my case. Thank you. That Walmart and Dick's is 6 minutes or so up the road through all the lights glad she helped you with the info.
Yep, I’m glad there were store that I could get one close by! Thanks for watching! 💪🏾💪🏾💯💯
If I have two guns in a locked case, unloaded and no magazines and I’m carrying no ammunition can I pack the magazine in the suitcase with my clothes or does the magazine also have to be in the lock box. Second question, once I arrive at my location, can I pick up my check baggage and go directly to my car or will it be some problem there. Thanks for your information.
Very informative!
Thanks for checking it out!
Thank you for this video
My pleasure 💯💯
Wife and I flew to Las Vegas last week with my hand gun. I already had the metal Snap Safe gun case. Its exactly like the one you have but uses a key. I purchased it for $9.00 at Academy. It comes with a cable that you can lock it down in your vehicle or to a bed frame or something sturdy. I use it most of the time in my truck to secure my firearm when I can't carry it in a place that doesn't allow firearms. I used it to secure my firearm, two magazines and a 20 round box of ammo on our flight to Vagas. I just declared the unloaded firearm with Frontier airlines from Dallas to Vegas. I had to fill out a declaration and open my luggage in front of the agent. She placed the declaration card on top of the metal case holding my firearm. Locked up my luggage with a TSA lock and off to Vegas.Got to Vegas and picked up my luggage on the carousel with all the other luggage. Same process on our return flight. I did tape my name and phone number on the metal case if TSA needed to contact me. Never heard anything from TSA going or coming back from Las Vegas. It was my first time flying with my handgun. Over all a neat experience.✊🏾
Glad your experience was smooth! You have the correct container that will work at any airport! Thanks for sharing with us!!
Sounds like AA has more strict rules , but then some of the Casinos after Stephen Paddock’s killing spree insist you keep your guns in their armory.
@@spaghetticowboy8228 Yeah and I spoke with the Las Vegas police department before we flew out of Dallas. The officer told me they would prefer casino goers to not take there fire arms inside the casino. The officer also said that if casino goers chooses to take there fire arm they would not prosecute customers for doing so. He also said that if your achol levels were over the limit while carrying a firearm that you would be arrested. He encouraged me to carry but only if I'm not drinking. As we all know, achol and guns do not mix. I'm not a drinking man so I don't that does not apply to me but if I did I would not while I'm carrying.
@@williamharris803 Handy to use the cable lock to secure a safe box to the aluminum skeleton of your luggage, if you have a zipper liner to access the rails inside the bag.
Great share!
1. You can't have TSA locks on the firearm case. 2. You can keep ammo in the same case as the gun IF the ammo is in the original box
TSA specifically allows you to have TSA locks on the firearm case, and have explicitly allowed this since 2018.
While the rules in 49 CFR 1540.111 require you to have the key and only you to have the key, this is theoretically impossible to strictly follow, as no key is unique, and all reasonable locks are pickable. I'm not able to find what the punishment is for not following these rules.
“Key or combination”
Yup getta medal lock box key or combonation and keep bullets in the original packaging and have a safe flight
I have a regular metal lock box with key but figured they wouldn't accept it. So I panicked and ordered a tsa approved one online lol. Can you fly with just an ol school metal lockbox with key?
appreciate this video
Thanks for watching Rocky!
U da man…. Just bought this case prior to seeing your video. Flying soon. Thx
Glad I could help💯💯💯
Cool video man. Now where did you put your ammo and holster?
Appreciate it! The holster can just go in the luggage and I put the ammo in an ammo box. At Jacksonville they made me give it to them because I had it loose in a little ammo bag. They wanted each round separated so an ammo box works for that. Thanks for watching!
@@greyman470I'm from jax and flying there next week. First time with my firearm, do the bullets have to be in the original box?
Kind of nervous don't want to lose my gun, flying from Dallas
As someone who is a prior TSA Agent some of the airline personnel and officers can be over zealous honestly that I personally have flow with a case like that and I know many others as well the problem comes to personal interpretation of the federal law and people playing Superman
Thanks for letting us know! I figured that was the case but will be more cautious to avoid those folks from now on. So I’ll stick to what should work universally. Appreciate you! 💯💯
If you're carrying ammunition, will the airlines/TSA allow you to put the ammunition in a NOT TSA approved case, like throw the paper/plastic box inside the suit case and fly, or do you have to make sure the firearms case is large enough to hold everything?
There is a certain weight of ammo (pounds) that you can put in a checked back. I can’t remember what the exact weight is but it just needs to be in a checked bag. I’m sure you can google that number or find it on the airlines pages. Thanks for watching! 💯💯
I'm in Jacksonville Florida. They that strict.
Yea they are! Thanks for watching!
Just flew American Airlines today out of a international airport. Flying to orlando didn’t even look at box or ask me to take it out of suitcase. Easy enough .
Yeah that’s exactly my point. Then the next time you think you’re good and don’t have the proper contain, you’re stuck like I was. The TSA supervisor said they have no consistency. Crazy! Thanks for watching!
@@greyman470 yeah pelican 1200 worked great for me
Good video!
Glad you liked it Antoninette! Much appreciated!
Does the ammo have to be in a separate locked hard case? Because the ammo in its original box will not fit into the lock box that you showed.
@@ZO6JOE I always put the ammo in a box that I bought the ammo in. It does fit in the case with the gun but I do have to arrange it just right so that it fits though. If your ammo box won’t fit, try getting a smaller ammo box. Some ammo comes in a smaller box from the factory than others.
@@greyman470 thank you brother your a life saver!
And I just liked and subscribed!
What brand is that one you bought
I now have an American Rebel box. Works really well. Thanks for watching! 💯💯
Does the checked in bag (clothes bag) have to be locked as well?
No, in fact you are not allowed to lock the checked bag. Thanks for watching! Much appreciated!
@@greyman470all the other videos say to lock both 😮
Rules are off in New York and N,J.
When you say they are off, what exactly are you saying? Inconsistent?
Where di you store your ammo. Can the ammo be stored in the suit case like regular luggage.
The ammo should be stored in the locked container with the gun but in another small container like an ammo box that holds each rounds separately. Now I’ve gotten through some airports before I went to Jacksonville with just having the ammo in a small bag inside the locked gun case but Jacksonville wouldn’t accept that.
@@greyman470 Thanks brother I appreciate that. Thanks for sharing the information concerning your dilemma.
@@greyman470 can the ammo be stored in its original packaging?
@@randybautista1596 Yep, it can be stored in a box that it was sold in. That actually works well because ammo boxes have each round stored separately in those little plastics trays.
@@greyman470 awesome thanks!!
Does it go the same for bb guns?
Not sure about BB guns. I don’t own any at this time so not sure. Thanks for watching! 💯💯
Just saved me 😭 I’m going to jacksonville Monday now I’m going to the gun store cause this is blasphemy, I don’t even want to risk it with my Glock gun case, & i need to store my ammo correctly
Glad I could help Khyree! Jacksonville don’t play! It’s sucks when you miss a flight! Safe travels fam!! 💪🏾💪🏾💯
@@greyman470any tips about jax is appreciated lol.
I'm from there and flying back next week, first time flying with my firearm and nervous 😂
Music gave me a headache. Wasn’t necessary. I lasted 3 mikes.
My understanding is that the denial you experienced was legitimate under the published regulations.
True. I just want to clarify what is not permitted. Even though MANY airline agents AND TSA agents don’t understand the regs and might pass you through, there are the few that won’t. Jacksonville being one example. Thanks for watching!
@@greyman470 SG Sauer needs to redesign their cases to lock from outside the handle. My 11-yr old CZ cases have only one hole for a padlock and have been accepted by TSA and Alaska Air in Seattle and Chicago. Maybe the plastic is thicker? My Beretta case has holes for two padlocks outside of the handle, so should be secure.
No it did. You not getting there early enough did. That’s what you ment to say right?
Great video but music in the background is distracting and unnecessary.
Thanks for the feedback!
The lady was right in this case. The case can be pried open. Just because it was allowed before doesn't mean it was permissible. As much as you fly with your firearm, you should be using a better case anyway. LOL
Lol. That was the point of the video. To show that there is no consistency across airlines or airports. If there was, I would have gotten stopped at my home airport which would have been much less of an issue. I would have taken. It back to my car and been done with. And like you said, even though It passed many times before, that doesn’t mean it will all time. I wanted people to know this. Thanks for watching!
This guy doesn't mention the difference between US domestic travel and international travel where guns are concerned. The gun laws of the destination country govern what happens to your guns.
Just plain stupid!!
@@greyman470 we are no less a civilized country as the US, in fact, more civil.your laws mean nothing to Canadians unless they are in the US. What is stupid about that? I see the supidness in your comments though. I hope you realize the US leader was never the leader of the free world, as it was so often stated. You're whiners and whingers, always have been. So arrogant. In international fora your representatives are shunned as much as possible. You are bullies remember Vietnam? Political wars killing millions of innocents. Always a war for you people. And then there was Cheney's war in Iraq. You're out poking big sticks at the countries (bears), so you can keep on killing. You introduced nuclear weapons that you then used. POWER CRAZY. You have the biggest prison population in the world. You figure in the bottom half of the scale for education. You allow people to die rather than helping them I witnessed the removal of an aged woman from a hospital because she had no way to pay. And yet the Evangelicals are heating up the airwaves begging for money that they need to keep their lifestyles up.
You talk a good talk but you don't walk the walk. And stop buying Canadian flag 🇨🇦 pins and pretend you're Canadians so as to get treated better in foreign countries. Unfortunately the first time they shout for the waiter the gig is up. They refuse to try to say goodbye and hello in the native language. The Entitlement just oozes out. Your country is falling apart and you people worry about masks and protests. STUPID TO THE MAX!
Honestly, it's not an inconsistency.
It's regulated, without exception, to fly firearms with "hard" cases.
www.tsa.gov/travel/transporting-firearms-and-ammunition
That's a soft case, sir.
You’re right. Better put, the knowledge by agents and enforcement is inconsistent. I recently (2 weeks ago) flew again and the agents in Birmingham had no idea how to process a gun and at first gave me trouble about the hard case and said it had to have two locks on it. The case in this video can’t have two locks. They had to go and consult TSA. That was American Airlines. Thanks for watching! 💪🏾💪🏾