A veritable gold mine of Roux knowledge here. Plenty to learn and practice - it'll keep me busy and entertained during these winter months. Thanks for the top drawer content, it's much appreciated!!!🤘
One thing I do like about Roux is that you can head straight into F2L and the freedom it gives you with moving edges in the middle layer. If you take advantage of this enough and solve the last layer with OLL and PLL, you've got the best of most worlds, and you get easy OLL algorithms almost every single time. It can lower the amount of OLL algorithms you have to memorize, all while keeping your F2L fast and efficient. If you are great with intuitive solutions, then this is a great combo. Personally, if I learned to do Roux first with F2L and OLL, then I would probably be way faster already.
So after your last stream, I started to learn roux. It is really fun! I’m still learning how to speed up the step where I make the top/bottom all yellow/white. But, if I get lucky on something I recognize, I’ll get decent times for only two days in. Have a few in the low 30’s so far.
4A timestamps 4 Bad Edges 22:18 Arrow 22:58 Two Adjacent bad edges on top and 2 on bottom (M2) 23:35 Two L/R Bad Edges On Top Two bottom (M’ U2 M) 23:56 4 Bad edges on top 2 Bad Edges 24:36 One Bottom Bad edge facing front One Top bad edge facing back (M’ U M) 24:50 One Top Facing Front One Bottom Facing Back (M U M’) 24:54 Two Top adjacent (M’ U M) 25:24 Two Top Opposite From each other (M’ U M) 25:35 Two Bottom Opposite (M’ U M’) 26:17 6 Bad Edges ( R U’ r’ U’ M’ U r U r)
FINALLY!!!! I learned how to do roux sure the cycle end gonna get me stumped and the t perms and the headlights are gonna be tricky to memorize but I finally did it LETS GO!!!!!!
If you learn all the methods in a competition sense it sounds great because you can take bits and pieces depending on cases or depending on the scramble maybe it'll be faster to solve roux then with cfop
Thank you for starting the video with a Roux solve...to give casual inquirers a quick feel for the method. Icing on the cake was that this initial solve was just the right speed - slow enough to track the moves but fast enough for short attention spanners like me. :)
The biggest thing during LSE you don't have to use the block edges. You can use any 2 edges to insert that you want to. Say your block is red/orange. If you already have the blue edge with the top color on bottom, then you can move the green down, and then insert those two, and just do a U move, then do the last 4 edges. And then AUF. Let's say you have the blue edge with the bottom color already down, then you can bring the green edge down, and you either have H,Z,U perm. Most of the time it's U Perm. The only rule for that is make sure they are opposite edges. So either (R/Y O/Y) (R/W O/W) or any combinationnof opposite edges. I would not recommend (R/Y R/W) edges to be paired because that's a little more complicated. If you do that you need to do a cube rotation, because W/Y is no longer the bottom layer. And a U-Perm.
Watching this because I might find some algs that might be helpful, and there are some helpful ones. I started rouxing because my CFOP is trash, and I've been rouxing for 9 months. I'm able to achieve sub-25 within 9 months, knowing the fact that I restart cubing around 9 months ago as well, with a sub-1:15 for my CFOP at that time.
@@amiruliman5 Roux is theoretically faster, but usually people don’t match the TPS numbers of top crop solvers. If someone could though, the lower movecount would lead to faster solves.
A couple of hours in from beginning roux intuitively and I’m already looking quite good and sussing some tricks. Had a little trouble at first getting my head around EO, but wasn’t long before I had it intuitively. Great tutorial Shawn! Im going to play with the basics for a week and then move on to the advanced stuff.
The biggest stumbling block to intuition for me is the fact that I grew up in england and ***EVERY*** rubics cube sold there had blue opposite white, red opposite orange, green opposite yellow.
Watched fully and learned a lot. I don't plan on learning roux soon, but I will one day. I can understand how the method works now, and will be excited when I finally start learning it!
For teaching beginners I love the fact that two look Roux you essentially only need 3 orientation algs. 1. U, π, and H are all F (sexy) F' just with different number of sexy moves. 2. T and L are inverses (sexy)(sledge) or (sledge')(sexy') 3. Sune and antisune are inverses or do anti left handed.
1) I finally understood that "Orient" means either white or yellow on top and bottom. 2) Oh, the 2x2 ortega OLL algorithms for corners! 3) Instead of "triple sexy" I use the other, non y' rotated version, RU2R'U', RUR'U' RU'R', basically the same alg but it's more reminding of 2 sexy moves, than 2 sune, so I like it more. 4) finally, an understandable explanation of what "intuitive" is supposed to be. Thank you so much.
You should link a video in the description for complete beginners notation so that anyone who’s brand new can understand the algorithms. Other than that this is perfect!
Remember that the first two layers as well as block building in this method are less algorithmic. What is the most help is just taking time, weeks and months of working with the puzzle to conceptualize the 3-D movement in your head.
Yh that's really helpful in the beginning but if you get more advanced, you should do this 'step' while orienting the edges so you save a move or two ^^
I am the first ever person to realize roux is one of the hardest solutions to solve a rubix cube bro Ive been watching millions of tutorial from the method roux and guess what idk even know how cmll works and other steps after that and I listen clearly still no idea how people learn this sh1t
It is not difficult. Beginner CMLL is exactly like beginner OLL and PLL but fewer algs needed. Feel free to ask whatever questions you have and I can try clear things up.
I gotta say that, as beginner who can solve the daisy method quite easily, I could not learn the Roux method from this video. I guess this is more advanced than I had anticipated :(
Thank you Shawn, I won't switch to Roux for two handed but I will switch to Roux for OH. THANK YOU FOR UPLOADING THIS, I WILL DEFINITELY WATCH THIS😀 Also wish you a merry Christmas 🎄🎄
Question: Is it ever a good idea to mish-mash the first and second blocks by doing them out of order? I’ve been getting a lot of cases where my second block pairs are formed as I’m working on the first one and it’s really tempting. Also, do you have any tips on second block in general? It’s definitely the step I struggle with the most in roux.
It works sometimes. Once every 20 or so I do it art of the second block. I think the temptation to jump to it goes away when you start planning the entire first block and DR edge from inspection.
So I've started to learn the Roux method, and I'm finding it's taking me WAY more moves than it should, even when I'm doing it really scrupulously and efficiently. I almost know full CMLL, so I should be able to supposedly solve it in 45-50 moves- I've been getting about 65 to 70 on average. Do you think you can diagnose the problem? Also, are you able to tell me how many moves each step should take if you're doing them correctly?
Certainly. I asked Kian this when I was getting into it. He said something like First block ~9 moves Second block ~15 Then CMLL is probably ~10 Which leaves LSE ~10-15 moves
It's more of average of 10 moves for that. There are some that are around 8 moves, some less, some around 12 moves, and a couple crazy ones. speedcubedb.com/pdfalgsheet/481/CMLL
Why in CMLL do you orient before permuting? There are 8 move three cycles to permute prior to orienting, and the sune - antisune based orientations preserve permutations.
This is the beginner tutorial. Orienting first can be easier to recognize for many but that depends on the person. If someone wants to go full CMLL they should then check out the video for that.
It's the first blue block in the video and I'm already dumbstruck trying to figure out how that happened it's like this is a cube anime and I'm just a side character
They saw pretty much the exact same cases. I don't even consider anything "anti-" but they're just the same algorithm in the front, back, or inverted. The difference is there are two Sune cases (right or left) for CMLL.
Can anyone please explain about the 4a , 4b and 4c thing? In a solve you get one case of only one type or you have to do one type in order to do the following one?
4a: Orienting the last 6 edges (Reducing to an arrow case with the three move M/U moves, and then solving the arrow case with the same M/U moves shown in the video) 4b: solving the UL and UR edges 4c: Solving the last 4 edges. Both UR and UL use M and U2 moves mostly.
So I’ve ended up playing around with a half roux half CFOP. And I don’t believe it to be less efficient then straight up Roux but then I am almost certainly wrong and am hoping someone can point out what I’m missing. I’m using Roux to make the 2 3x2 blocks but then completing the first 2 layers with M moves before then doing OLL PLL. Am I just crazy or could this be a legit way of get reasonable times?
It's less efficient. So with Roux you are looking at around 45 moves average. The first two blocks are around 25 moves, CMLL around 10 and L6E around 10. When you solve the bottom two edges that will then bring the moves up to around 30 for the first 2 layers which is similar to F2L in CFOP, then you have OLL and PLL which can add another 30 moves.
@@SpeedCubeReview Is there a way for doing Roux CMLL in two looks efficiently, I mean, more efficiently than the 4 look LL in CFOP where I orient corners in around 8 moves and permute them also in about 8 moves = 16 moves. So the question: Is there a way to cut down on those 16 moves without learning 40 algs? And thanks for the great tutorial! I like intuitive solving, and I'm an amateur. I started first with 8355 and then with Heise. Now I'm exploring Roux. I find it simple and great.
@Moz Blue I'm an amateur, and I can't solve F2L in 30 moves or less (most of the time). It takes me 35 moves on average. So your point is very interesting and seems good in my amateurish understanding. Just my two cents.
LR edges refers to the edges on the top layer on the left and right. UR and UL to be more specific. To solve them usually you will put both on the bottom (using things like I show in the video M' U2 M), line up the top layer so that when you do M2 they align with the correct corners.
@@SpeedCubeReview thanks so much I really get it now time to switch to roux I think? What do you say can I switch between crop and roux because crop has a lot of algs and I only know 2 look last layer and I average around sub-25 do you recommend it ?
Around the 7 min mark he has a 2x2 grouping of blue on the Face hes working on. He then says he needs to insert a blue orange yellow ( sequence?) Why? Where? He then proceeds to insert 2 more blues to make a 3x2 blue grouping. Why?
The first step in solving with this method is making a block that is a 2 x 3 x 1. There are no set algorithms for this step as there are nearly infinite possibilities of how you could set one up. So there is nothing specific that could be explained for every single case. For the same case, there are also many different ways of doing it, which could be considered as optimal. So the why is because that is the first step of this method nowhere depends on whatever your scramble is, which is impossible to match every time to what's happening in the video. I would suggest not worrying about solving the entire method and just worry about making that block. Feel free to ask any other questions and I'm happy to help you walk through things
You don't need to learn any "CFOP algs". For 2-look CMLL there are 7 corner orientation alg, Andy 2 permuting ones. You can be sub-10 with 2 look. As you learn 1-look there are super cool algs with wide moves and cool finger tricks that are way different than any CFOP algs. About half as many algs total for the full CMLL compared to OLL And pll
That's up to you. There is no time stamp you just hit to learn something new. Often waiting can make it more difficult to switch. Roux is more different than CFOP compared to most beginner methods but can be just as fast with fewer moves.
You can say every method requires similar skills, however making the first block should be executed very differently than CFOP. The first block is pairing up 5 pieces more similar to the cross, however wide moves are often utilized.
I already got confused with the sentence at 6:15 "start with a red and yellow, or blue and yellow edge". why those color combos. I understand that he had a pair that had blue, red, and one corner piece had yellow" ....why was the yellow the common denominator, why not a blue and red edge?
Do you recommend for a beginner that has never touched a Rubik’s cube before to learn cfop or roux? I can’t wrap my head around what “blockbuilding” is and how to do it.
I go over exactly how to solve it in the video. Some steps are intuitive-based and you have to understand just the concepts. If you went over every case for intuitive steps they would be hundreds upon hundreds of variations. For the last layer I go over all the variations exactly you might encounter. If there was a step that confused you please feel free to ask questions and I would be happy to clear it up.
To your first question, both Roux and CFOP would be great for a beginner. Remember that both can take years to really get down to a "advanced" level. Roux takes practice with intuition and building blocks while CFOP has many more algorithms to learn. My suggestion is for people to learn both
every time i try to do roux tutorial,either i dont get the same thing and dont know how to do,or is it too long and then i get tired. i just try once and give up at CMLL part,and next day the same cause its hard for me. if i were to want to learn roux,id need an instructor to be live at my place to understand it.
Sexy move = R U R' U' Sledgehammer = R' F R F' There are many 4 moves like this called "triggers" but these are the two most common ones that I've names. They can also be mirrored or inverted like L' U' L U Or U R U' R'
CFOP will have more. 57 OLL and 21 PLL. Remember that the 6 you know are pare of the 42 most likely. You could be sub-10 with doing 2-look which has 7 OLLs (Two are just mirrors of each other) and 2 PLL algs for corners. Don't worry about how long it may take. It will be in your fingers just like typing on a keyboard or on your phone. You can type some things faster than you can think it. If you want to get into Roux that is great, but CFOP is more similar to what a beginner method looks like. I plan to make a video soon of the algs I use in the order I suggest to learn them. Have fun with it, but don't avoid them because they seem intimidating.
the last 2 edges always screw me. it looks so intuitive but more times than not i end up with two edges flipped but in the correct spots and nobody has shown this on any tutorial :/
What do you mean by "connected" for edges? If you have 1 edge solved then the other three will be in a cycle that can always be solved in 4 moves (possibly one more to orient the M slice at the end)
As a guy who solves cube by using advanced CFOP method, i recently decided to learn roux method. And i can assure you that this video is not explanatory enough. I appreciate your hard work but you should've told what we are aiming when we execute these algorithms that popped on the video. What is arrow case? There is no arrow case in the link you shared below descriptions? It's not clear like OLL or PLL. Please make another videos for people confused af like me, sir.
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This feels like learning how to solve the cube again
ikr LOL
@@jashithreddypuli6513 I like completely gave up on it
Same
Worth it tho
That’s what I came here for
A veritable gold mine of Roux knowledge here. Plenty to learn and practice - it'll keep me busy and entertained during these winter months. Thanks for the top drawer content, it's much appreciated!!!🤘
“Why you gotta be so roux? Don’t you know I’m human too?”
-Nasri of MAGIC!
LOL
One thing I do like about Roux is that you can head straight into F2L and the freedom it gives you with moving edges in the middle layer. If you take advantage of this enough and solve the last layer with OLL and PLL, you've got the best of most worlds, and you get easy OLL algorithms almost every single time. It can lower the amount of OLL algorithms you have to memorize, all while keeping your F2L fast and efficient. If you are great with intuitive solutions, then this is a great combo. Personally, if I learned to do Roux first with F2L and OLL, then I would probably be way faster already.
So after your last stream, I started to learn roux. It is really fun! I’m still learning how to speed up the step where I make the top/bottom all yellow/white. But, if I get lucky on something I recognize, I’ll get decent times for only two days in. Have a few in the low 30’s so far.
Finally a precise roux tutorial. Good job!
@Kethan Game Show ??
@Kethan Game Show ??
I do cfop, and I think I will still, but i think it will help me understand the cube more
4A timestamps
4 Bad Edges
22:18 Arrow
22:58 Two Adjacent bad edges on top and 2 on bottom (M2)
23:35 Two L/R Bad Edges On Top Two bottom (M’ U2 M)
23:56 4 Bad edges on top
2 Bad Edges
24:36 One Bottom Bad edge facing front One Top bad edge facing back (M’ U M)
24:50 One Top Facing Front One Bottom Facing Back (M U M’)
24:54 Two Top adjacent (M’ U M)
25:24 Two Top Opposite From each other (M’ U M)
25:35 Two Bottom Opposite (M’ U M’)
26:17 6 Bad Edges ( R U’ r’ U’ M’ U r U r)
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@@Totorocot where
Thnx
Tysm ❤
FINALLY!!!! I learned how to do roux sure the cycle end gonna get me stumped and the t perms and the headlights are gonna be tricky to memorize but I finally did it LETS GO!!!!!!
If you learn all the methods in a competition sense it sounds great because you can take bits and pieces depending on cases or depending on the scramble maybe it'll be faster to solve roux then with cfop
Thank you for starting the video with a Roux solve...to give casual inquirers a quick feel for the method. Icing on the cake was that this initial solve was just the right speed - slow enough to track the moves but fast enough for short attention spanners like me. :)
Glad it was helpful!
The biggest thing during LSE you don't have to use the block edges. You can use any 2 edges to insert that you want to. Say your block is red/orange. If you already have the blue edge with the top color on bottom, then you can move the green down, and then insert those two, and just do a U move, then do the last 4 edges. And then AUF. Let's say you have the blue edge with the bottom color already down, then you can bring the green edge down, and you either have H,Z,U perm. Most of the time it's U Perm. The only rule for that is make sure they are opposite edges. So either (R/Y O/Y) (R/W O/W) or any combinationnof opposite edges. I would not recommend (R/Y R/W) edges to be paired because that's a little more complicated. If you do that you need to do a cube rotation, because W/Y is no longer the bottom layer. And a U-Perm.
Very helpful! I've been using roux for quite some time but this video still had a lot of stuff that I dindn't know yet
Watching this because I might find some algs that might be helpful, and there are some helpful ones. I started rouxing because my CFOP is trash, and I've been rouxing for 9 months. I'm able to achieve sub-25 within 9 months, knowing the fact that I restart cubing around 9 months ago as well, with a sub-1:15 for my CFOP at that time.
Cfop needs practice,but faster
So yeah depends on your type
I have been using cfop for 1 month and in sub 30 so I disagree
@@amiruliman5 Cfiop isn’t faster.
@@ernestryles cfop snd roux are almost the same speed
@@amiruliman5 Roux is theoretically faster, but usually people don’t match the TPS numbers of top crop solvers. If someone could though, the lower movecount would lead to faster solves.
A couple of hours in from beginning roux intuitively and I’m already looking quite good and sussing some tricks.
Had a little trouble at first getting my head around EO, but wasn’t long before I had it intuitively.
Great tutorial Shawn! Im going to play with the basics for a week and then move on to the advanced stuff.
The biggest stumbling block to intuition for me is the fact that I grew up in england and ***EVERY*** rubics cube sold there had blue opposite white, red opposite orange, green opposite yellow.
Try to change it change the peaces
Watched fully and learned a lot. I don't plan on learning roux soon, but I will one day. I can understand how the method works now, and will be excited when I finally start learning it!
I finally understand what to do with the LSE, have always been fall back to CFOP. Thank you Sir 🙏
For teaching beginners I love the fact that two look Roux you essentially only need 3 orientation algs.
1. U, π, and H are all F (sexy) F' just with different number of sexy moves.
2. T and L are inverses (sexy)(sledge) or (sledge')(sexy')
3. Sune and antisune are inverses or do anti left handed.
1) I finally understood that "Orient" means either white or yellow on top and bottom.
2) Oh, the 2x2 ortega OLL algorithms for corners!
3) Instead of "triple sexy" I use the other, non y' rotated version, RU2R'U', RUR'U' RU'R', basically the same alg but it's more reminding of 2 sexy moves, than 2 sune, so I like it more.
4) finally, an understandable explanation of what "intuitive" is supposed to be. Thank you so much.
Thank you!
Tried to watch this the other day but I was nearly falling asleep before I clicked the video lol and missed all of it. But I’m back!
lol. Ask questions if you need
@@SpeedCubeReview I’m just along for the ride lol. I haven’t learned roux or even attempted, I honestly just enjoy your videos
You should link a video in the description for complete beginners notation so that anyone who’s brand new can understand the algorithms. Other than that this is perfect!
you should learn beginner method before learning roux or cfop
Roux method could be a beginner method as compared to LBL it would have fewer algs and might be easier for some
@@SpeedCubeReview my thoughts exactly
Tysm for this I was thinking about learning roux I scroll down on my recommendation and wow perfect thx
5:15 finally a good speedcubing tutorial!
Hehe I guess it’s time to learn roux
I came from trying to learn cfop and f2l made no sense and was to confusing so now I’m trying roux
Remember that the first two layers as well as block building in this method are less algorithmic. What is the most help is just taking time, weeks and months of working with the puzzle to conceptualize the 3-D movement in your head.
As a roux user I love this
I sent it to my friend who wants to get faster
The first video that helps
For 4a, don’t forget to fix the centers after the 2nd block. White or yellow has to be on top
Yh that's really helpful in the beginning but if you get more advanced, you should do this 'step' while orienting the edges so you save a move or two ^^
Best Christmas present
I am the first ever person to realize roux is one of the hardest solutions to solve a rubix cube bro Ive been watching millions of tutorial from the method roux and guess what idk even know how cmll works and other steps after that and I listen clearly still no idea how people learn this sh1t
It is not difficult. Beginner CMLL is exactly like beginner OLL and PLL but fewer algs needed. Feel free to ask whatever questions you have and I can try clear things up.
I gotta say that, as beginner who can solve the daisy method quite easily, I could not learn the Roux method from this video. I guess this is more advanced than I had anticipated :(
Feel free to ask questions. It's a little less step by step as daisy but also fewer algs to learn.
You’re right I learned beginner cfop and now it’s hard doing the two blocks
Thank you Shawn, I won't switch to Roux for two handed but I will switch to Roux for OH. THANK YOU FOR UPLOADING THIS, I WILL DEFINITELY WATCH THIS😀
Also wish you a merry Christmas 🎄🎄
Thank you for the heart
This feels like solving the cube again
I just learned cfop, and discovered the abp method. The first step is the first block
ty this was useful I have been looking for a good tutorial
Bro that tutorial is sooooo good it's for other tutorials
Thanks this is going to help so much
Question: Is it ever a good idea to mish-mash the first and second blocks by doing them out of order? I’ve been getting a lot of cases where my second block pairs are formed as I’m working on the first one and it’s really tempting. Also, do you have any tips on second block in general? It’s definitely the step I struggle with the most in roux.
It works sometimes. Once every 20 or so I do it art of the second block. I think the temptation to jump to it goes away when you start planning the entire first block and DR edge from inspection.
Loved that! Waiting for future videos
Jesus I cannot wait to learn this method. Cfop is way too hard and im sick of using beginner method.
This has a learning curve. Have fun building blocks and do NOT worry about times for some months
So I've started to learn the Roux method, and I'm finding it's taking me WAY more moves than it should, even when I'm doing it really scrupulously and efficiently. I almost know full CMLL, so I should be able to supposedly solve it in 45-50 moves- I've been getting about 65 to 70 on average. Do you think you can diagnose the problem? Also, are you able to tell me how many moves each step should take if you're doing them correctly?
Certainly. I asked Kian this when I was getting into it.
He said something like
First block ~9 moves
Second block ~15
Then CMLL is probably ~10
Which leaves LSE ~10-15 moves
Thank you!
One thing: Are you sure CMLL can be solved in 10 moves or less? There are a lot of CMLL algorithms that take more than that.
It's more of average of 10 moves for that. There are some that are around 8 moves, some less, some around 12 moves, and a couple crazy ones. speedcubedb.com/pdfalgsheet/481/CMLL
Oh my god this is probably gonna take me a heck of a lot longer than CFOP
Just have fun with it. Focus on being efficient
It is a perfect tutorial for roux
it feels like im trying how to learn cfop all over again
Why in CMLL do you orient before permuting? There are 8 move three cycles to permute prior to orienting, and the sune - antisune based orientations preserve permutations.
This is the beginner tutorial. Orienting first can be easier to recognize for many but that depends on the person. If someone wants to go full CMLL they should then check out the video for that.
Merry Christmas. Day 3 of asking Shawn how much his rent is so I can pay it.
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Pay mine, jk I have a house where I live with my parents
@@denoceto6826 LMAO
Pay mine, jk I’m not even 18 and I live with my parents
@@Its_FamilyGuy nu~!
Great tutorial, thank you.
Is it possible to magnetize the gan standard skewb and pyraminx and can you make a tutorial on how to do it
Likely, but I wouldn't bother.
Imma learn it now, I wanted to learn it back then but didn't have the time
Yesss I've been waiting for this
LOVED the tutorial. But the background Burned my eyes!
"In F2B for roux there are no algorithms, only intuitive movements with look aheads"
Shawn : There's a lot of ways to waste moves.
His Dog : Exactly!!
Woof woof
Thank you
It's the first blue block in the video and I'm already dumbstruck trying to figure out how that happened
it's like this is a cube anime and I'm just a side character
I’m 9 minutes in and am no closer to perfecting the base for my sauce.
First left handed tutorial I find no more need to mirror algs
this feels so much easier then cfop, but if I haven't learnt cfop first I am sure I would be so confused by this.
Going to cfop to roux is the intuitive and using the middle layer. Video focusing on examples of the first two block ?
Lol cfop mind keeps popping back. It's really easy to understand but I'm just not able to do it 😅
Merry Christmas
Waiting for the block building tips vdo......❤️
When should you use sune and when should you use anti sune? Whats the difference between these two
They saw pretty much the exact same cases. I don't even consider anything "anti-" but they're just the same algorithm in the front, back, or inverted.
The difference is there are two Sune cases (right or left) for CMLL.
Shawn : *talking about the advantages of roux*
Shawn's dog : "Heyyyy. Even I want to be in a video. Or at least let me sleep."
thanks just what I👍 needed
thanks, this was helpful
This is awesome!
This guy looks like dream if he was a cuber instead of a gamer
Can anyone please explain about the 4a , 4b and 4c thing? In a solve you get one case of only one type or you have to do one type in order to do the following one?
4a: Orienting the last 6 edges (Reducing to an arrow case with the three move M/U moves, and then solving the arrow case with the same M/U moves shown in the video)
4b: solving the UL and UR edges
4c: Solving the last 4 edges.
Both UR and UL use M and U2 moves mostly.
@@SpeedCubeReview Thank you very much! Didn't think you will reply this comment.
So I’ve ended up playing around with a half roux half CFOP. And I don’t believe it to be less efficient then straight up Roux but then I am almost certainly wrong and am hoping someone can point out what I’m missing.
I’m using Roux to make the 2 3x2 blocks but then completing the first 2 layers with M moves before then doing OLL PLL.
Am I just crazy or could this be a legit way of get reasonable times?
It's less efficient. So with Roux you are looking at around 45 moves average. The first two blocks are around 25 moves, CMLL around 10 and L6E around 10. When you solve the bottom two edges that will then bring the moves up to around 30 for the first 2 layers which is similar to F2L in CFOP, then you have OLL and PLL which can add another 30 moves.
@@SpeedCubeReview Is there a way for doing Roux CMLL in two looks efficiently, I mean, more efficiently than the 4 look LL in CFOP where I orient corners in around 8 moves and permute them also in about 8 moves = 16 moves. So the question: Is there a way to cut down on those 16 moves without learning 40 algs? And thanks for the great tutorial! I like intuitive solving, and I'm an amateur. I started first with 8355 and then with Heise. Now I'm exploring Roux. I find it simple and great.
@Moz Blue I'm an amateur, and I can't solve F2L in 30 moves or less (most of the time). It takes me 35 moves on average. So your point is very interesting and seems good in my amateurish understanding. Just my two cents.
It would be the same for corners. Most orienting algs are around 8 moves. The permitting an A perm is about that but Y perm is quite a bit more.
I don’t understand the LR edges can you pls explain
Thanks
LR edges refers to the edges on the top layer on the left and right. UR and UL to be more specific. To solve them usually you will put both on the bottom (using things like I show in the video M' U2 M), line up the top layer so that when you do M2 they align with the correct corners.
@@SpeedCubeReview thanks so much I really get it now time to switch to roux I think? What do you say can I switch between crop and roux because crop has a lot of algs and I only know 2 look last layer and I average around sub-25 do you recommend it ?
color neutral is hard, i can only do red on left or right, blue on front or back, and yellow on top or bottom
Around the 7 min mark he has a 2x2 grouping of blue on the Face hes working on. He then says he needs to insert a blue orange yellow ( sequence?) Why? Where? He then proceeds to insert 2 more blues to make a 3x2 blue grouping. Why?
The first step in solving with this method is making a block that is a 2 x 3 x 1. There are no set algorithms for this step as there are nearly infinite possibilities of how you could set one up. So there is nothing specific that could be explained for every single case. For the same case, there are also many different ways of doing it, which could be considered as optimal. So the why is because that is the first step of this method nowhere depends on whatever your scramble is, which is impossible to match every time to what's happening in the video. I would suggest not worrying about solving the entire method and just worry about making that block. Feel free to ask any other questions and I'm happy to help you walk through things
bruh- why do I still have to learn cfop algs when i'm trying to ESCAPE cfop
You don't need to learn any "CFOP algs". For 2-look CMLL there are 7 corner orientation alg, Andy 2 permuting ones. You can be sub-10 with 2 look. As you learn 1-look there are super cool algs with wide moves and cool finger tricks that are way different than any CFOP algs. About half as many algs total for the full CMLL compared to OLL And pll
Are there a lot of Roux algs ? If no, can you tell me 1st, 2nd Block, CMLL, and LSE cases. and how ro solve them
There are very few algorithms. There are actually no major algorithms for the blocks either. I go over that in the video.
I don't want to know Roux I just need to gain more knowledge but thanks for the video
I pretty much do Basic, but I throw some F2L in there, just to speed things up.
I would suggest checking out this first ruclips.net/p/PLL7KvA5mhPX180D41KpTjbYJsMdcoTMC7
i have a question, i have sub 1minute and 10secs with begginner method,plus a 12 moves alg at last step ,do i learn roux?
That's up to you. There is no time stamp you just hit to learn something new. Often waiting can make it more difficult to switch.
Roux is more different than CFOP compared to most beginner methods but can be just as fast with fewer moves.
@@SpeedCubeReview yes so do you recomend me learning roux?
@ELECO-OFFICIAL Roux is fun. CFOP is more similar to a beginner method.
I suggest people learn both
Guys can sombody answer. I will be very greatfull. f2l (CFOP) and first block (ROUX) require same skills no?
You can say every method requires similar skills, however making the first block should be executed very differently than CFOP. The first block is pairing up 5 pieces more similar to the cross, however wide moves are often utilized.
I already got confused with the sentence at 6:15 "start with a red and yellow, or blue and yellow edge". why those color combos. I understand that he had a pair that had blue, red, and one corner piece had yellow" ....why was the yellow the common denominator, why not a blue and red edge?
#1 C-FOP (Beginner)
*#2 ROUX*
#3 ZZ
BIG ROUX
Do you recommend for a beginner that has never touched a Rubik’s cube before to learn cfop or roux? I can’t wrap my head around what “blockbuilding” is and how to do it.
In this video, you gave a lot of examples of different scenarios, but you didn’t give a tutorial on how to do it.
I go over exactly how to solve it in the video. Some steps are intuitive-based and you have to understand just the concepts. If you went over every case for intuitive steps they would be hundreds upon hundreds of variations. For the last layer I go over all the variations exactly you might encounter. If there was a step that confused you please feel free to ask questions and I would be happy to clear it up.
To your first question, both Roux and CFOP would be great for a beginner. Remember that both can take years to really get down to a "advanced" level. Roux takes practice with intuition and building blocks while CFOP has many more algorithms to learn. My suggestion is for people to learn both
@@SpeedCubeReview ty
every time i try to do roux tutorial,either i dont get the same thing and dont know how to do,or is it too long and then i get tired. i just try once and give up at CMLL part,and next day the same cause its hard for me. if i were to want to learn roux,id need an instructor to be live at my place to understand it.
Do you have questions?
how are we supposed to find peices for block 1 and 2? Just finding each peice takes like 10 seconds for me
It does for now, but efficiency focus and practice will change that after a few months.
Another way to do the dots is to do sexy move but with wide R six times
Good tutorial but I think I prefer cfop method
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I have SUB 30 ao5 on 3x3 Rubik's cube does learning ROUX make me faster or should I be sticking with my CFOP and practice
Either can be equally as fast. It doesn't hurt to learn new things.
@@SpeedCubeReview Okay Then I will Think of learning ROUX
What is the difference between a sledgehammer and sexy move?
Sexy move = R U R' U'
Sledgehammer = R' F R F'
There are many 4 moves like this called "triggers" but these are the two most common ones that I've names. They can also be mirrored or inverted like
L' U' L U
Or
U R U' R'
@@SpeedCubeReview thanks! 😁
when i do the 4b then the corners aren't in the right position?
what am i doing wrong
No corners should move since you are only doing M and U moves. If you mean they are just a U move away, that is fine.
@@SpeedCubeReview i figured it out!
It was because i forgot to put them in the right place in the beginning 😅
BUT thanks for the help😀
😆 no problem
42 algorithms for CMLL?
I'll stick with Basic, 6 algorithms do everything.
CFOP will have more. 57 OLL and 21 PLL. Remember that the 6 you know are pare of the 42 most likely. You could be sub-10 with doing 2-look which has 7 OLLs (Two are just mirrors of each other) and 2 PLL algs for corners.
Don't worry about how long it may take. It will be in your fingers just like typing on a keyboard or on your phone. You can type some things faster than you can think it. If you want to get into Roux that is great, but CFOP is more similar to what a beginner method looks like. I plan to make a video soon of the algs I use in the order I suggest to learn them. Have fun with it, but don't avoid them because they seem intimidating.
the last 2 edges always screw me. it looks so intuitive but more times than not i end up with two edges flipped but in the correct spots and nobody has shown this on any tutorial :/
Same thing here, flipped edges that nobody shows. Need more explanation
Feel free to ask questions. I show the last two edges in the video but please feel free to let me know what you would like cleared up.
How many solves (approximately) did you do on the RS3M 2020?
No clue.
Is he using RS3M as Main
What if I have 2 unconnected edges, 1 connected edge and 1 solved edge in 4c?
What do you mean by "connected" for edges?
If you have 1 edge solved then the other three will be in a cycle that can always be solved in 4 moves (possibly one more to orient the M slice at the end)
@@SpeedCubeReview connected is one colour is solved but the other doesn't
There will always be one color "connected" when one piece is solved in L4E.
As a guy who solves cube by using advanced CFOP method, i recently decided to learn roux method. And i can assure you that this video is not explanatory enough. I appreciate your hard work but you should've told what we are aiming when we execute these algorithms that popped on the video. What is arrow case? There is no arrow case in the link you shared below descriptions? It's not clear like OLL or PLL. Please make another videos for people confused af like me, sir.
It's Time to lern one hand roux
Do u have a video for ZZ also?
ruclips.net/video/yVCbL1S2AnI/видео.html