@@FaultyPhenomena they have same F2L but modified with MU moves and If ZZ is faster for example why choosing CFOP? We cube cuz we want the fastest times, that's why CFOP/ZZ/Roux are here or we will be using the begginers method
@@axolotl7486 Roux has the lowest move count and you don’t ever really need to rotate either. ZZ has the best ergonomics for its lack of rotations and not having to deal with spamming M and U moves. But CFOP has a more algorithmic approach like ZZ but it solves pieces at every step and is the best at reducing blind spots making CFOP have the best look ahead.
Ngl roux looks really fun. I'm pretty much ready to move on from beginners method because I'm averaging 1min now, and i think I'm just going to learn both roux and cfop at the same time for the next 6mo-1yr to see which one suits me best. Good video thanks 😁
@@DeltaInsanity hey! Actually my mom passed away sometime right around when i left that comment and i think i really did not do a whole lot of cubing for a good while. Then maybe 5-6 months back i learned chess and that’s been my main hobby I’d say, so with all that being said i haven’t had much progress cubing. I somewhat recently learn beginners roux method from Kian Monsiour tutorial playlist. If you have trouble finding that let me know and I’ll send you the link to it. It’s really tough to say I’m stuck now trying to decide what to do. I feel like the thousands of solves i have with the layer by layer beginners method has really equipped me to move onto cfop since i already have been knowing f2l for a long time, but i also like that roux is more intuitive and less alg based and also Tps matters less with roux. So on the one hand i like the idea of moving forward with roux but I’m just so comfortable with layer solving I’ll probably just have to learn cfop and build on my foundations rather than basically start from scratch tbh. Sorry if this wasn’t much help lol
@@DJ-Art-Morris I'm sorry for your loss. Honestly I was just curious to know what the experience would be like to learn both roux and cfop at the same time. I was in a similar situation a bit over a week ago where I was averaging about a minute with the beginner method, and it took me about a week to get comfortable enough with cfop that my times were pretty similar. I'm slowly bring my average down now, with a PB single of 39sec.
tf when you learn zbll and just start seeing them everywhere the zz gang is strong also definitely to flex these are the zbll cases that came up in the video (e: but everyone did 2 look instead): 8:05 anti sune bars: R' U' R U' R' U R' D' R U' R' D R U2 R 10:23 anti sune niklas: R U R U' R2 D U2 R' U' R U D' R 12:09 right U: R U' R U D R' U R U2 R' U R D' R' U R' 12:22 blueberry pi: R U2 R2 U' R2 U' R' U R' U2 L U' R U L' 13:15 sune bars: R U2 R' U L' U2 R U R' U2 L U R U' R' 13:37 sune shish kebab: R' D R' U R D' U R U' R' U' R2 U R U' R' 15:10 left T: L' U R U' L U' R' U' R U R' U' R U' R' 17:25 diag L: F R U R' U' R U' R' U2 R U2 R' U' F'
@@justaregularhumanbeing thats what I named the case ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. my recognition for the case notes a diagonal line, kinda like a skewer in a shishkebab. naming things silly things helps them stand out
its kind of hard to tell when your solving fast. cfop and zz look the same when executing just f2l is built different and when solving cross you orient the edges on the top bottom front and back layers.
Roux: I know a bit. teach me
ZZ: I know a bit teach me
CFOP: I know the full thing and do not teach me
True
this is true becuz Roux is just more freedom version of CFOP but a bit slower
and ZZ is just CFOP with no rotations
@@axolotl7486 Roux is completely different from CFOP and there’d be no point to choosing a method if it simply was slower
@@FaultyPhenomena they have same F2L but modified with MU moves and If ZZ is faster for example why choosing CFOP? We cube cuz we want the fastest times, that's why CFOP/ZZ/Roux are here or we will be using the begginers method
@@axolotl7486 Roux has the lowest move count and you don’t ever really need to rotate either. ZZ has the best ergonomics for its lack of rotations and not having to deal with spamming M and U moves. But CFOP has a more algorithmic approach like ZZ but it solves pieces at every step and is the best at reducing blind spots making CFOP have the best look ahead.
The last time I was this early Petrus was a viable speedcubing method.
For some reason I read "Tetris was a viable speedcubing method."
@@harrisonmullins7099 lol no
@@harrisonmullins7099 I hate to say it, but it really isn't. Doing EO as its own step mid-solve is unacceptable in modern speedcubing.
@@alexshih3747 _cries in LEOR_
LOL
I was expecting Rowe to just say "CFOP" after the others were thoroughly explaining their methods lol
Where is fluffy alligator
It's too complex
@@oweeoh7895 i know this is a joke but the actual fluffy alligator is pretty simple fun fact
I don’t know probably because we were only doing big 3 methods
How to become Phil Yu.
1. Wear sun glasses no matter what
2.wear v necks
3.Always have a bracelet
4. Crack random jokes randomly
How to be PRO X CUBER
1.repeat random words repeatedly
@Alex Davison i love this
Use ZZ
5. Use ZZ
6. Own The Cubicle
7. Name Yourself Phil Yu
8. Wear Backwards Cap
finally a zz lover like me ( im one of the three people who uses and loves this method)
Me too (I'm one of the only 3 people who uses and loves this method
My EO line needs a lot of work
@@cheesebiscuit6453 same here
@@cheesebiscuit6453 unless you're doing OH, Line is worse than Cross. EOCross is oo
7:30 when Phil started talking about putting fingers on all the edges I laughed so hard because that's exactly what I did the first week of ZZ 😂
Me too!
I’m just learnt about EO yesterday and I do this rn.
10:39
Phil: What experience do you have with ZZ?
Jules: I know it exists?
I’ve been cubing for 6 years and have mastered a lot of methods.
CFOP: ~14
CFCE: ~15
Roux: ~19
ZZ: ~13
Petrus: ~15
And quite a few more!
Plz explain, would be interesting (:
Bro what the fuck
Ur so good
and you still dont know what the beginners method is wow
@@dominicyohankim2474 I started by learning CFOP, I know LBL but prefer not to use it, I average ~22 ATM.
when im bored i go back to watch your old videos, i use zz like phil and him teaching was amazing, good vid
nice
Hola JS
Hola xd
a
No me esperaba tu comentario por aca xd
Te sabes el caso bilingüe
That was actually really fun. I remember doing this with someone at one of my first comps with Top First vs V First on Pyraminx haha
Jules teaching Roux: Roux is cool
Phil teaching ZZ: EO is confusing get used to it
Rowe teaching CFOP: Just get good
TheCubicle: Let us know if you watched it all
Everyone: comment on everything known to man but that.
Don't worry Phil! I am sure there are lots of more ZZ solver like you, including me
but you know the method not anyone uses
Petrus, it is bad but it is a speed solving method
Phil! Can you make a updated zz tutorial? Things like “4-2 isn’t efficient use 3-1-3” are really use full. I’m sub 15 with zz
That would indeed be interesting!
The Roux guy looks like if Kung-fu Panda Was a Sensei😂
Great video tho
"I ve been using roux for about 3 thousand years now" bro what💀
From someone who mains CFOP but knows all 3 methods and casually solves on the other 2 from time to time, nice
"3,000 Years"
Jaja Old 😂
Ngl roux looks really fun. I'm pretty much ready to move on from beginners method because I'm averaging 1min now, and i think I'm just going to learn both roux and cfop at the same time for the next 6mo-1yr to see which one suits me best. Good video thanks 😁
Hey i also use beginner method im thinking of learning cfop in a few weeks time
@@M1kH477 best of luck!
Did you stick with learning both? If so, which are you leaning towards/did you choose?
@@DeltaInsanity hey! Actually my mom passed away sometime right around when i left that comment and i think i really did not do a whole lot of cubing for a good while. Then maybe 5-6 months back i learned chess and that’s been my main hobby I’d say, so with all that being said i haven’t had much progress cubing. I somewhat recently learn beginners roux method from Kian Monsiour tutorial playlist. If you have trouble finding that let me know and I’ll send you the link to it. It’s really tough to say I’m stuck now trying to decide what to do. I feel like the thousands of solves i have with the layer by layer beginners method has really equipped me to move onto cfop since i already have been knowing f2l for a long time, but i also like that roux is more intuitive and less alg based and also Tps matters less with roux. So on the one hand i like the idea of moving forward with roux but I’m just so comfortable with layer solving I’ll probably just have to learn cfop and build on my foundations rather than basically start from scratch tbh. Sorry if this wasn’t much help lol
@@DJ-Art-Morris I'm sorry for your loss. Honestly I was just curious to know what the experience would be like to learn both roux and cfop at the same time. I was in a similar situation a bit over a week ago where I was averaging about a minute with the beginner method, and it took me about a week to get comfortable enough with cfop that my times were pretty similar. I'm slowly bring my average down now, with a PB single of 39sec.
17:39 "Well I'm really nervous on camera I don't know if you could tell"
*synchronous turning of heads towards the camera*
😂😂
Phil my guy these v necks are the absolutely
It would be fun watching someone learn SSC/Domino Reduction
I watched it all.
And i let you know, like you aksed
*now give me a heart phil*
you are probably the only one to comment on what they said to comment on xD
Find some maniacs who mains Petrus, Mehta and belt(lol). Complete the set!
Belt sucks use sqaun method
@@gopalkrishnan7324dr lmao
Roux here✌
CFOP forever!
Roux here😃
Lol this is so good!
where is rowe teaching fluffy alligator smh
"I've been using Roux for about 3,000 years now"
damn, unexpected 💀
TIL Rowe Hessler is smart as hell
Wdym IF you watched it all? Of course I did. Would be a shame to miss out on this quality entertainment.
I was NOT expecting that outro song lmao
I’ll stick to CFOP thank you verry much
with zz, if u wanna be serious, i think it is better to learn eocross eventually, but eoline is still better for oh
It’s like the old saying goes, “all the best CFOP solves are ZZ solves”. Never underestimate the power of an EO cross.
+1 like! Sucesso e feliz ano novo!
Last time I was this early, the only method I used was to “just peel the stickers off”
The roux dude was the only one that actually cares about wearing a mask LOL
Roux team
Right here
⬇️
Here 🙋
Here 2 years later
ROUX is a free method without f2l, but ZZ & CFOP is pretty same with with f2l and same last layer orient.
tf when you learn zbll and just start seeing them everywhere
the zz gang is strong
also definitely to flex these are the zbll cases that came up in the video (e: but everyone did 2 look instead):
8:05 anti sune bars: R' U' R U' R' U R' D' R U' R' D R U2 R
10:23 anti sune niklas: R U R U' R2 D U2 R' U' R U D' R
12:09 right U: R U' R U D R' U R U2 R' U R D' R' U R'
12:22 blueberry pi: R U2 R2 U' R2 U' R' U R' U2 L U' R U L'
13:15 sune bars: R U2 R' U L' U2 R U R' U2 L U R U' R'
13:37 sune shish kebab: R' D R' U R D' U R U' R' U' R2 U R U' R'
15:10 left T: L' U R U' L U' R' U' R U R' U' R U' R'
17:25 diag L: F R U R' U' R U' R' U2 R U2 R' U' F'
Pog
Sune shish kebab wtf lol
@@justaregularhumanbeing thats what I named the case ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. my recognition for the case notes a diagonal line, kinda like a skewer in a shishkebab. naming things silly things helps them stand out
Phil : I use ZZ so I didn't need rotation
V Perm : Am I a joke to you
I use this v perm alg: R U' R U R' D R D' R (U' D) R2 U R2 D' R2
R U D v perm my man
R' U R U' R' f' U' R U2 R' U' R U' R' f R
A little late but my fav v perm is R U Fw ones
Nah I just use y2 v perm
Why tf are nude dp bots spamming the comment section?
They do that on my channel sometimes
i watched it all
Nice two pencils you got under your shirt Phil!
now we need apb
i watched it all. cool video
so cool phil
I watched it all🙃
When will the sponsorship program begin
Rouxers where you at
Here
I’m here
@@blackbirdcuber3615 is it your main method though
It is
We see you💜
Right when I was at my first competition lol
which timers do you use
Haha this was great
Phil’s M fingertricks physically hurt me
he uses blind fingertricks
Row being faster than phil in zz be like
Phil be trollin
Jules ftw!
Interesting!
4:10 what cube is phil using
It sounds the the rs3m 2020
@@jonahcubing9668 it had weird center pieces tho
Are you putting the Meilong 3x3 on sale anytime soon?
Nice video
I don’t know why everyone is surprised that Jules have been using Roux for 3,000 years. He’s a caterpillar. What do you expect?
Lol
I watched it all. Tbh, kinda made me sad :( My times are worse than the people who don't even do CFOP!
Cfop isn’t that good, it’s just so developed that it’s become good
@@jackreiman6010 Okay, so cfop isnt good but it’s good?
@@linuschristensen6181 yeah basically
@@linuschristensen6181 CFOP isn't fundamentally good, it's just had 4 decades of development and optimization so the result is good.
I have learn all the method
I know the the roux zz and cfop. But I am not as good but I think roux is the best although I cannot do it very fast
0:02 hey guys I’ve been using roux for about 3 thousand years now
Nice.
9 SECONDS AGO
The reason I don't use ZZ or ROUX is because I am not good at intuition
Phil can I have a gold star? I know g perms
Me with my friends: C F O P
I love the learn OLL. Like hey man, my OLL is MUM'.
LETS GO IM BETTER THAN PHIL AT CFOP (until he inevitably gets better than me cause I havent actually practiced in months)
I use CFCE...
Sir what is the timer that u r using in the video?(in the iPad).
I think its ciao timer or five timer
fun fact: its really easy to be color neutral with roux
I am method neutral I can use any method crop roux or zz
I always thought phil used CFOP
its kind of hard to tell when your solving fast. cfop and zz look the same when executing just f2l is built different and when solving cross you orient the edges on the top bottom front and back layers.
@@Camocuber True
I'm the forth person, my preferred method is PEtRuS...
First view
First like
First comment
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Wait why was Jules wearing a mask and Phil ams row weren’t
He does that on their streams some as well, I think he just likes wearing one, not quite sure if he has a better reason or not.
What is your pb. I average about 5-20 and I hope 1of you could also teach me special cases and tricks
When will you release the Qiyi timer
Lol the v neck
I didnt know Phil was using ZZ
Rowe doesn't need anyone to teach him roux
i have been cubing for a year and i main gan 11m pro, and i average 18.37 do yall think that i am doing good?
Everyone goes at their own pace , but yes
Phil please teach zz please im despered
You are using roux for 3000 years whaaat!
rowe is such a bad teacher and thinks he's him even though he looks like a discord mod that has never stepped outside in his life
Yeah he genuinely pissed me off
Phil saying his the only one of the 3 people out there who uses zz me remembering jws jperm and scr doing zz......wait what?
he mains maining zz, they use either cfop or roux
Phil was wrong too, the ZZ method solvers discord server has over 200 people.
@@GeometryDashProgam3r im pretty sure he was exaggerating and being sarcastic xD look at his hesitant reaction
Phil: so what experience do you have with zz?
Rhe other guy: I know it exists! (Says proudly)
0:01 wait... 3000 years!?!?!?!
Where my Mehta users at
We are everywhere!
WE ARE WORLD
We're here
I used Mehta for live 3 days around when the server popped up. Cool method
Do petrus
Or you could just use petrus
Who here knows more than one of these methods?
I know zz cfop and kinda know petrus
@@LazyBeverage pog
I know
Belt
Petrus
Cfop
Begginer
Peel of the stickers
Dissasemble and reassemble
Begginer corners first
Collums first
One side at a timer
Jules looks like private from penguins of madagascar
Just smile and wave, boys, smile and wave....
what cube is that?
What about petrus?
could you guys put Dayan guhong v4 m parts on your website because I lost my yellow cap