As far as Zeits and the board, I believe zeitz is also chair of the board so another reason he is probably safe. They all need to go, but who’s going to fire them. Taking the company down a horrible road. What I think is going to happen is the ultras and limiteds will go away and you will have the option to buy a new street or road glide and add the stuff to it, you mentioned a new tour pack and expanding accessories. I think that’s the direction we are headed there. I am good with softails getting love also. It has been all about the touring models which are HD’s bread and butter. It is time for the softails to get some updates. Ride modes, digital gauges, that stuff. I of course own a road king special and it was the 40th of that bike also and they totally blew it off. I think we won’t see a road king next year as much as I think that is a dumb move. Good stuff, keep it up!
Thanks. I agree with your points except for the Roadking. I think they’ll keep it around. But they definitely disrespected that model by not doing something for it’s anniversary.
Zeist isn’t German, but he also isn’t a HD fan, it’s just a business to him. I do think also 25 will be the cruiser year. We already got the Sporster and Touring redesign, it’s the Cruiser’s time. I imagine 107 will be gone and replaced by 114. Most might have 117 with liquid cooled heads, and the current 117 replaced by the 121. Well we ll see. Just my prediction.
I haven't heard this rumour yet so I'd like to get it started ! H-D is bringing back the EVO Sportster !!! Yep, they've finally seen the error of their ways . . . at least so far as the EVO (real) Sportster is concerned.
I have a road king special and as you say as much as I hate to see it, I don’t see a 2025 King either. It’s a shame because there are those like me that want the touring comfort but don’t want to be married to a fairing.
That is what I did, and I don't regret it. Get the quick release for the saddlebags, and you can take off the saddlebags and windshield and still have a good looking cruiser. The Springfield is a very versatile motorcycle if you like changing your motorcycle around by adding and removing parts.
things to win. Dyna remake. Softail custom with a gauge on tank and duckbill rear fender. fatboy grey ghost option (also that rear fender needs work. plus solid wheels) fatbob, yeah. that would be cool. baggers/touring/everything make a base road king/Softail or sporter and build it with packages as this fits the whole custom ideals.
I just bought a 2024 Street Glide last week and was told by the dealership that H-D will be discontinuing the Whiskey Fire color for 2025…have you heard about that?
For 2025, my wish list is as follows: Electra Glide Standard (minimal electronics), black, equipped with a 117 ci engine, ape hangers, high quality suspension and brakes (including inverted front forks). Nothing else is necessary. Call it the "Outlaw." Price: $22,999...out the door.
I bought my last Harley. I’m keeping my 23 Roadglide-ST forever. I do not like these new cheaper built and cheaper looking 24 model baggers. The only one that is worth the money is the CVO-ST.
Great video and topic bro!! I agree with you, the CEO has to go! He's ruining the company. I would like to see a tribute to the Grey Ghost on the Fat Boy. Not like what they did with the 30th anniversary. I would like to see HD come out with the same paint and trim as the Grey Ghost, on a newer model. Just my opinion. Hope all is good with you and Merry Christmas 🤘🏻💯
harley better lower the prices preety soon my dealer near bye me has 100 2024 modles 20 2023 modles and 61 used bikes and soon 2025 modles are coming ouch in my area i have 7 harley derarships they all have tons of bikes unreal harley got hurt this summer with this woke thing merry christmas young man keep up the good work
Harley-Davidson needs to stop the “I’ve got a secret model” for the new model releases. No other motorcycle or automobile manufacturer does it. There is nothing exciting about it anymore. I think hurts the dealerships for three months where customers are nervous about spending 30K+ waiting for the new models. Harley-Davidson has lost the edge. The majority don’t care.
Need to have a bike with a taller seat height, why so many at 25 ish inches? Also put some suspension travel in the bikes, 2 or less doesnt work for anyone.
if what harley is doing now doesn't satisfy the bottom line, they'll do something else. like any big company, they're in business to make money, not spread ideology.
Every years we have rumours after rumours. In the end all we get are new colors. 😅
I'd like to see a Breakout with a springer front end
That would be interesting.
Maybe bring back the BadBoy name that they used for a few years.
You will never see another new Harley with a springer front end, because it's impossible to make ABS work on one.
I think the issue with that is making all these safety features work with a sprinter front. I would love to see it also!
Time Stamp 2:57 I am with you on that call 100% Bro. The whole board is the bigger problem.
Unfortunately, I don’t see it changing either.
Good stuff. Kind of glad to see the aging Ultra Limited being phased out. Those bikes haven’t changed for a long time.
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As far as Zeits and the board, I believe zeitz is also chair of the board so another reason he is probably safe. They all need to go, but who’s going to fire them. Taking the company down a horrible road.
What I think is going to happen is the ultras and limiteds will go away and you will have the option to buy a new street or road glide and add the stuff to it, you mentioned a new tour pack and expanding accessories. I think that’s the direction we are headed there.
I am good with softails getting love also. It has been all about the touring models which are HD’s bread and butter. It is time for the softails to get some updates. Ride modes, digital gauges, that stuff. I of course own a road king special and it was the 40th of that bike also and they totally blew it off. I think we won’t see a road king next year as much as I think that is a dumb move.
Good stuff, keep it up!
Thanks. I agree with your points except for the Roadking. I think they’ll keep it around. But they definitely disrespected that model by not doing something for it’s anniversary.
@ yes they did! I do hope I’m wrong and you’re right about the king and I guess we’ll revisit it soon!
I would like to see an equivalent upgrade to the Softail's electronics and suspension as per the RG SG.
You never know, maybe that’s coming.
Zeist isn’t German, but he also isn’t a HD fan, it’s just a business to him.
I do think also 25 will be the cruiser year. We already got the Sporster and Touring redesign, it’s the Cruiser’s time.
I imagine 107 will be gone and replaced by 114.
Most might have 117 with liquid cooled heads, and the current 117 replaced by the 121.
Well we ll see. Just my prediction.
I’m hoping this will be a cruiser year. And I would agree with you on the 107 being gone.
I haven't heard this rumour yet so I'd like to get it started ! H-D is bringing back the EVO Sportster !!! Yep, they've finally seen the error of their ways . . . at least so far as the EVO (real) Sportster is concerned.
That wouldn’t bother me. But I can’t see it happening with the leadership they have in place.
I'm opposite. If HD doesn't bring back the Road King standard, it's off to Indian for a Springfield.
I think you may be looking for an Indian come spring. I don’t see them bringing back a King. Even though they should.
I have a road king special and as you say as much as I hate to see it, I don’t see a 2025 King either. It’s a shame because there are those like me that want the touring comfort but don’t want to be married to a fairing.
It was the King’s 40th birthday this year and they didn’t even give it some of the new upgrades.
That is what I did, and I don't regret it. Get the quick release for the saddlebags, and you can take off the saddlebags and windshield and still have a good looking cruiser. The Springfield is a very versatile motorcycle if you like changing your motorcycle around by adding and removing parts.
I did as well… love the Road King & now I love my Springfield
things to win.
Dyna remake.
Softail custom with a gauge on tank and duckbill rear fender.
fatboy grey ghost option (also that rear fender needs work. plus solid wheels)
fatbob, yeah. that would be cool.
baggers/touring/everything make a base road king/Softail or sporter and build it with packages as this fits the whole custom ideals.
Those would be nice
@canadiansa1nt309 more as Im looking for a softail and hate the rear fender. make the night train as a add on package.....
I just bought a 2024 Street Glide last week and was told by the dealership that H-D will be discontinuing the Whiskey Fire color for 2025…have you heard about that?
I haven’t but I’m sure they will. They only seem to keep black and grey year to year.
Rumors on RG3 ?
Haven’t heard a thing. But I’m thinking it will be sticking around.
For 2025, my wish list is as follows: Electra Glide Standard (minimal electronics), black, equipped with a 117 ci engine, ape hangers, high quality suspension and brakes (including inverted front forks). Nothing else is necessary. Call it the "Outlaw." Price: $22,999...out the door.
It’s a nice idea. I liked the the standard. It was a nice minimal tourer.
Tour pack with rack = Limited. I guess it stays with the new updates
I bought my last Harley. I’m keeping my 23 Roadglide-ST forever. I do not like these new cheaper built and cheaper looking 24 model baggers. The only one that is worth the money is the CVO-ST.
And they’re not cheap.
Great video and topic bro!! I agree with you, the CEO has to go! He's ruining the company. I would like to see a tribute to the Grey Ghost on the Fat Boy. Not like what they did with the 30th anniversary. I would like to see HD come out with the same paint and trim as the Grey Ghost, on a newer model. Just my opinion. Hope all is good with you and Merry Christmas 🤘🏻💯
That would be interesting. It’s the Fatboy’s 35th anniversary in 2025 so we’ll see if they do anything.
Thanks for the video.
No problem 👍
HD is the official brand of the LTGB-BF community
harley better lower the prices preety soon my dealer near bye me has 100 2024 modles 20 2023 modles and 61 used bikes and soon 2025 modles are coming ouch in my area i have 7 harley derarships they all have tons of bikes unreal harley got hurt this summer with this woke thing merry christmas young man keep up the good work
Merry Christmas to you too. I have a feeling the prices won’t be going down.
Harley-Davidson needs to stop the “I’ve got a secret model” for the new model releases. No other motorcycle or automobile manufacturer does it. There is nothing exciting about it anymore. I think hurts the dealerships for three months where customers are nervous about spending 30K+ waiting for the new models. Harley-Davidson has lost the edge. The majority don’t care.
Good point.
I want to see a pan america super scrambler
Interesting concept 🤔
We need ablacked breakout& anew VRod
That would be interesting
I'm so tired of blacked out bikes!
Need to have a bike with a taller seat height, why so many at 25 ish inches? Also put some suspension travel in the bikes, 2 or less doesnt work for anyone.
They say there’s going to be a suspension upgrade. I guess we’ll see.
bring back leaky pete !!!
He’s sleeping until Spring unfortunately.
I think they’re gonna come out in January with some double down of their woke policies during their bike announcements. I hope not.
I hope they don’t either 😬
Spokes before wokes.
if what harley is doing now doesn't satisfy the bottom line, they'll do something else. like any big company, they're in business to make money, not spread ideology.