Here is my experience. I went on a ride with about 8 other guys. I had an Ultra, they had various models, but no baggers. They were all making fun of me for having an old man bike. We stopped at a cool little store in the mountains that sold collectables. Several of the guys bought stuff there. They all asked me if I would put their purchases in my trunk. Since they had been so persistent in giving me a hard time, I told them to stick it up their a$$. Spend your hard earned money on what you like, but for me, you cannot beat an Ultra.
The Harley baggers will always live on as they are the zenith motorcycle produced by Harley Davidson. If you want uncompromising comfort with all the benefits of a touring motorcycle, and in some models... raw unbridled performance, you will have a Harley bagger. Dismal thought to even contemplate the absence of Harley baggers. Ride on!👍
As someone who in the last 3 years, has gone from a Low Rider S to a Fat Bob to a Road Glide, I find this interesting. I kept trying to make my softails into touring bikes. Once I rode an actual touring bike, for me, there was no going back.
This is me. I had a Sportster and then a 2017 (old Softail) Heritage. I tried to make both into touring bikes. Now I'm riding a Street Glide. I'd never go back to riding without a faring. Also, I've spent $40 to 45k total getting my SG dialed in. It has everything. There is no reason for me to trade ever.
@@stevend8785 Nice ! I too have a 2020 Street Glide Special. Interested what your best mods where. I added a higher saddleman road sofa seat and the wind noise from the fairing is so loud ! Thought it was my simpson helmet until I rode my unfaired V Rod ....so much quieter
@@stevebeck9470 long ride shield curved windshield, legends revo cartridges of front, dirty air on back, Wood cam, rcx 4.5” exhaust, leds all around, painted dash, Fosgate amp and speakers, lower fairings, etc.
I own a 92 FXLR, a 17 RK, a 70 BSA Lighting, and a 95 Sportster 883XL, which I will add some bags on the existing brackets. I am fortunate enough to choose which bike I ride, for where I am going.
I'm 68 years old 5'7" 160 lbs. Have 54 years of riding and always 0n a stripped down, minimalist bobber style HD, Love the latest M8 Lowrider ST's performance, reduced weight, mono shock suspension, etc. Love just riding with no bags, windshield, fairing or any other extra accessories ...
Great piece! I'm about a month away from hitting my 70th trip around the sun and have never owned a bagger. Not that I haven't looked at them and appreciate what they offer, but I love the flexibility that my '18 Sport Glide gives me. I can ride long distance if I want or make short trips around town or to and from work. She's quick and maneuverable and as I become more seasoned (or get older as some would say), I also appreciate the relatively lighter weight of the bike. I haven't done a lot of work on my ride: an LA Fairing Co El Diablo fairing, upgraded HD grips, 4" pull back risers, Memphis Shades hand guards, and a detachable HD sissy bar/luggage rack combo, and Kuryakyn floorboards. Keep up the great work!
I'm continued to be surprised with how many people have wrote into this video praising the Sport Glide, didn't realize that bike had such a following - Good to hear man, wishing you a Happy Birthday if we don't hear from you between now and then!
A lot of people like myself don't move on to a touring HD and never go back. We just add a tourer to the rest of our collection for a different purpose. I ride my SG for comfort, distance rides, ability to carrying stuff, combining rides with running errands, two up riding and then i can get my adrenelin fix on my 200 hp 400 lb Ducati with about 2 square inchs of storage space or vintage musclebike i"ve owned for over 40 years. I bought the SG new, the Ducati used with 3400 miles, and my GS musclebike plus all the extensive modificationons on all of the bikes and have less than the cost of a new touring CVO in all 3.
I think if have the capacity to have multiple bikes in the stable, that's the move - If I had to have only one bike for all purposes though, it would be the ST hands down
I’m 6’4” and was dead set on a Low Rider ST…until a 10 mile test ride caused excruciating hip pain for 5 days afterward. Ended up going with a RGST but still lust after the looks of the Low Rider every time I walk into the dealership.
@@isorides I considered that, but also had the issue of major head buffeting, even after trying the taller windscreen from the dealer. If I were below 6’ that bike would belong to me
You nailed it. I'm a smaller guy and I just bought a SG. I just can't seem to get comfortable on it because of the weight. I think the ST might be for me. Came from a Deluxe.
So Dan who owns O'Toole's Harley Davidson is around that height, and he's done a few things to make it work with him - He just did a distance trip heading west and said the bike performed excellently, I can refer you to him if you want to ask him what he did
I think people are intimidated with the size and weight of the streetglide and road glide etc. but you learn a few maneuvers and it is no different than a smaller bike.
In terms of handling a bike, 100% - But at the end of the day, if I can cut weight off the bike and still feasibly tour on it, best believe I will - Thanks for checking it out!
I find harley touring bikes easier to maneuver around than smaller bikes. Easier than older homda cb bikes like the 750 or goldwings of any year. Same goes for honda shadows or vulcans
I´m from Germany and I have a 1993 FLHS for 30 years now. It had been customized and has been my touring bike all the years. Years ago I bought a 100th Anniversary Wide Glide, but only for short rides and not for touring. But two months ago, I purchased a 2019 Sport Glide FLSB, which I think performs quite similar to the Low Rider ST: lighter, faster, better to handle and absolutely perfect for touring. I know I will never sell my old FLHS lady, but I think, I will take the Sport Glide for the next big tour through the Alps. :) So, after all: yes, you are right! Harley made a step to combine touring with more performance.
Haven't ridden in 20 years and now want to tour. At 61 the weight of the baggers was bumming me out. I knew it wasn't if I dropped it but when. I didn't realize Harely had done this. I got to catch up. This looks like the way to go. Thanks for the info.
I own a Honda 1200 I have done a 600 miles trip on it. It came down to it was under 10k it looks good and i like the way it rides. You should buy a bike you like to ride.
My Sportster 1200 is set up like this ! I swapped my belt out for chain drive an said see ya on the hwy to the road glide with bags , turn down pipes , and a fwd facing intake and rejet for proper tune, and airbags with compressor, custom cool kat one piece wheels, & a screaming eagle clutch.. it’s a great bike. I’m 6 feet and did 800 miles in Az. On it in a weekend sat-sun and had a great time. I feel like as long as you have vision you can do ALOT with any line of Harley as long as time -- tons of time , and money you can customize just about any of em to your needs .
Not in California, Road Glides, Street Glides and Road Kings are top dawgs. I’ve only saw people buying the Lowrider ST for a 2nd bike but never downgrade from a bagger. Reason why we are evolving to the performance bagger trend. Don’t hate brother😂😂😂
Zero hate brother, nothing but love for my west coast and performance bagger people, as I have a lot of friends within that intersection - Appreciate you stopping by!
The Low Rider St looks great. The 117 up grade with 100 lbs of fat trimmed is great. The three issues I have are: 1) The lack of storage space (my computer and its extras) being the main problem. The ST bags just aren't big enough for what I need. 2) My RG has has some add-ons (maybe not the biggest motor or the highest price pipes and bars) that would cost $$$ to add to a new bike. 3) Most important reason why I'll stay with my RG: IT IS PAID OFF....NO MONTHLY BIKE PAYMENTS!!!
So some people are swapping out the ST bags for extended bagger bags or Leatherpros - In my situation because when I do the bike trips I always pack a large sissy bar bag, the size of the ST bags are actually perfect, and that's talking for 7000+ mile bike trips
I added a quick release tour pack to mine because of my work laptop situation. I found the side bags too small by time you add work stuff, jackets, etc. Cant beat a bike being paid off though!
I’m 6’2 235 lbs and I did a test ride on a low rider ST and it was just too small. For shorter guys it’s the perfect bike but a bagger is way more comfortable for guys built like me. I can really stretch out on my road glide plus the speakers are sick
We just did a trip across the USA from California back to Toronto. I was on a bagger and my business partner was on a low rider ST and that thing absolutely crushed it, the only difference was the gas mileage, I’d be able to go a bit longer before filling up.
Last year i sold my Victory bagger for a LRST and i gotta say its probably the nicest out of the box HD I've ever ridden. Rode from Ct to the milwaukee 120th anniversary event. Loved it, the LR is perfectly capable for long distance. 1k a day is very possible.
@FXDLSBrooklyn I have pictures of your bike near the museum! I ran into Vongasphalt on the ride back to Connecticut too. Are you going to be doing any rides in the tristate area open to followers/subscribers?
I made the switch. Have road Road Glide Customs/Specials for the last 12 years. For a lot of the reasons you highlighted in this video. I love my FXRST(El Diablo). Zero regrets about it. Faster, lighter, and sweet jesus the handling. Keep up the good work brother PMA all day
I always had to ride a bagger because I told my camper trailer behind it and I need the bigger brake system and I use it for going around the country. One trip was from Beverly Hills Florida to Fairbanks, Alaska, camping and all the Providence parks and United States parks I’m 5 foot eight 140 pounds I wish I had a smaller bike but I had to lower the back into Inches so I can get my feet on the ground with the bagger
Have you tried the Indian challenger? If you wanna go faster on a bagger. As well as it has the inverted front forks and mono rear. And many other features. I personally chose the Indian challenger over the Low rider ST as I felt I got more for my dollar.
This ain't just a thing in America, by the way. Asian here, dad's a Road King owner and was considering a Low Rider ST because the RK was getting heavy for him (and Harley Manila had run out of Street Bobs at the time). Ended up buying a secondhand Slim to save money, but he was *reeaaally* tempted until we saw that ad.
Didn't sell my baggers but did add a Lowrider ST to the garage this year. Everything you said about weight , spot on. Increasing speed through horsepower is expensive but dropping weight can net the same result. What surprised me most was doing a 685 mile day on her this summer and it didn't suck. Even with the stock seat. Not going to give up my Street Glide for touring. I did 5665 miles this summer on a 10 day trip with 7 riding days. That's an average of 800 a day and for that the LRST would punish you. For a weekend trip up PCH, game on!
I hear you - I guess I come from a world where I do the 800 average mile day trips on a dyna, so the Low Rider ST feels luxurious compared to that - I love them both though - It's good to hear you got that 700 mile day out of the ST, that's what's up
5’7” I just got a Lowrider ST… 💪🏽😎❤️🤛🏽 got the thrashin 9 1/2 inch pullbacks with the mid bars along with the gauge relocation.. can’t wait till they’re installed next week.
Great take on this subject bro! I’ve been saying it for years. Sport touring is where it’s heading with the amount of cost and especially the economy is looking like. People are just going to want a faster and cheaper option.
My man! Good catching up with you a few weeks ago - We'll have to get a little Bear Mountain cruise in soon before the big freeze, assuming they've reopened it by now - Thanks for saying what's up June ⚡️
I have a 16 road glide. I just recently bought a 23 lowrider s. I kept the road glide for the longer trips, but i grew up on dynas and love my lowrider s.
I sold my bagger FLHX and moved up. I'm 58 and got tired of driving an 850lb bike. I bought a Triumph Tiger 900 adventure bike and gave up on the silly dream of how cool I look driving a Harley. Nobody cares what you drive. I have had more fun driving an adventure bike than I ever had on my bagger. And, yes I did test ride a Low Rider ST in Laconia this year. Not arguing, ride whatever you like.
Agreed. I was in Maggie Valley this past week and was lusting after all the adventure bikes I saw in town and I own a Harley. I think ADV bikes just seem more practical and versatile. My wife was not as amused by the idea. Honestly, I like all kinds of bikes and I'm fine riding solo😂
@FXDLSBrooklyn I must say, best bike I've ever owned. Great motor, fantastic suspension. All stock. Unlike my FLHX, which I spent thousands on just to be as good as a stock Triumph.
agree with your analysis, I had two Road King in the past and now I am riding a 114 Low Rider S, so much fun to ride and with my 64 years so much easier to handle and also so many more ways to personalize it as the Softail platform...
@@FXDLSBrooklyn for the moment I have mounted a Heritage shock to have more comfort, a Sport Glide seat, a pair of "End Game" pegs from HD and 5.5" Drag Specialities risers for better ergonomics, a pair of Twin Slash for the sound and also the aesthetic, a license plate support with built-in led light from Thunderbike for a slimmer rear end, a big solo leather bag on the left with a sissy bar and a lugage rack from HD to take my things with me when I'm away for several days and also a cruise control . Next step will be a Road Warrior fairing for winter and wind protection. I feel fine with this bike even it is a bit sportier for my style of riding, I will perhaps go with a Street Bob next year, which a more cool bike...
This is so funny that I came across this video. I treaded my 2020 road glide special to a 2023 low rider s. I did this 3 weeks ago. And 3 of those things are why I did it. Lighter cheaper payment and cost and faster. A lot of my buddies say I am stupid for doing it. But I don’t regret it.
I can't believe how many people have messaged me and left comments with this sentiment - You're not alone! You do anything else to it besides the controls?
Been at this Harley thing since 1971 , I've had at least one ever since , at the ripe old age of 22 I got my first bagger , a new 1978 FLH , and promptly broke it in on a trip from Norfolk Va to San Diego Ca by way of Alaska .. In 1984 I got my first Tour Glide and I have been a TG/RG guy ever since .. I came real close to getting a 1986 FXRT , but didnt want to get rid of the TG . My friend the dealer gave it to me for a few days and I loved it .. Always had a soft spot for the Super Glide/Low Rider/Wide Glides and the idea of a FX based tourer has always been in the back of my mind as a great idea . The FXRT was ahead of it's time .. I would seriously consider the new Low Rider and bags , but I'd have to do some adjustments to make it right .. I've ridden a few and they just don't fit me .. Lighter is a big thing with birthdays behind me ..
Couldn't agree with you more on the FXRT being ahead of its time - My FXR is my daily rider, and not a mile doesn't go by that I don't love that damn bike - That Alaska trip sounds sick
I bought a brand new FXRT in 1984. The MOCO produced a legitimate sport tourer way back when. It was a great machine, my gf and I put about 60k on it trekking all over Eastern Canada and New England. So, the idea isn't new but I think the market has changed enough to allow this bike sales success. I'm riding an Ultra bagger and Heritage. Depends on mood and destination which one gets out of the stable. Good content man, thanks
@@FXDLSBrooklyn I kept it until 89, I was young and impulse so I sold it and went to a low mile one owner Electra Glide. At the time it was a great bike, but like the shovels and pans of that time it was just another bike. I also had a 46 Knuckle at the time that I was having a great time with. You don't always know what you got till it's gone. That would be a great song lyric? 🎵
I notice there are a lot of Harleys for sale in my area at prices unheard of a few short years ago. Prices are coming down for sportsters from 4000 to 7000 dollars with low mileage of under 10K. Many in like new condition. At the same time smaller bikes are going up in price. This doesn't make sense.
From RG to Lowrider St. I’m 6’1 at 210 lbs and also a disabled veteran, the weight difference and me no longer able to do long trips the bike made sense. Enough room for my work essentials and gear.
I won’t lie, I’ve debated trading down from my Road Glide ST to the LRST. Haven’t test rode the LRST but I had a LRS with a Memphis shades fairing prior to my road glide. Miss how lightweight it was, the CR480 cam made it stupid fast, and the lucky Dave’s 13 bar fit me so damn well.
@@FXDLSBrooklyn I got a Woods 22xe and a Fuel Moto RTX 2 into 1 that’s dyno tuned by Caliente Harley. It’s a great setup and I can’t complain at all on how it runs on the Road glide. This combo on a lighter bike would be even better though. I’m gonna shoot for next weekend to test ride.
I just got back from a 5 day NC trip. Did the Tail on my 09 Street Bob. I love that bike and I've only had it a short time. I'm trying to figure out how to get a Fast Johnny Low Rider. I'm not selling the SB either.
That's what''s up man! Did a trip to the tail this summer on my Dyna and had a blast! For me there was no way in hell I was ever getting rid of either of my Dynas, so the ST was an addition for me rather than a trade
Interesting. I’m 76 years old. I started with a sportster in the 1970s. My second bike was a big twin and it was ridged frame chopper. I was a chopper guy most of my life with a couple of Lowrider shovel heads thrown in there. I didn’t keep any of them very long. when heritage softail’s came along, that was my natural way to go as I was getting older. I went from there to a road king and finally a road glide. The road glide was my very first and only brand new bike. I really enjoyed the bike for touring but around town It was kind of a handful. I was about to turn 70. I sold that bike and got into Dyna’s. So far I have had five Dynas, all twin cams. I sold my last one about a year ago when I moved to Texas. I’m just finishing what may very well be my last motorcycle. It started out as of totaled 1988 Evo. I’m just finishing wiring right now. I’m back to a rigid Frame with a six over Springer. I’m back to choppers and that’s where I will be from here on out.
I was on tour in Europe for 10 days and it was hard work on my Street Glide in the wet Alps after spinal surgery. Took her Sport Glide for a run as it had been sat for a few weeks and could not believe the difference. So traded the Street Glide Special and now have my 2023 Low Rider ST
I keep trying to convince my vertically challenged friends to get away from the baggers and to hop on a soft tail- most of us ain’t going coast to coast every weekend and those soft tails are plenty for the type of rides majority of folks are doing… but what the hell do I know, maybe they will listen to you 😂😂😂 Great Vid.
I've got 03 Electra glide nice bike,just a little slow for my taste. So I punched the cylinders.30 over. Gives the 88" a little more umph. Should've built the 96" head's I think I'd be happier with that build. So I guess what I'm saying is this. We are always on the quest for something a little different for our riding pleasure. So now I'll take the test ride. Ya know,figure it out. Good vid and good knowledge. Thanks.
Much appreciated! I have a Dyna with an 88 twin cam in it, and I think about going a little higher in terms of motor work all the time - Turning that motor into a hot rod situation is definitely on the list at some point - Thanks again for checking it out!
One thing that is stopping me from going to the lowrider is that it definitely seems like a single person touring option. I think in the interest of comfort for a riding partner, the touring options are still going to be your go-to. If you’re going long distance solo however, the ST looks like the best of both worlds.
I could see how someone would think that - I recently did multiple 2up moto camping trips with the old lady this summer, and they were all successful - However, if passenger comfort is your main priority, the bagger line is probably going to be the move
@@FXDLSBrooklyn Well, the stupid thing doesn't even come with a passenger seat or footpegs or even a functional windshield! It does have the same engine as the baggers, so by the time you've spent the money to correct all the deficiencies, it will be better than a bagger- lighter and faster.
So, people are figuring out that riding the heaviest bike with absolutely every feature you can think of is not really needed just to ride 10 miles to the bar? Its like buying a semi tractor just to get around town, who does that?
first i would like to say ride what you love, make it your what ever it is. I love true custom bikes and that to me for me is a chopper/bobber, that said my wife and I also have a hopped up Dyna and a street glide, Point is the stock street glide is as fast as the Dyna, and im not the only one to notice. it is in the gearing of the transmition. been riding for over 30 years i still LOVE sportys . . . last point ; many people felt there first bike should be a bagger. . .then heared about how great the dynas are , and a good many bagger riders felt they should try the smaller sexyer bike themselfs . . .NEVER let anothers opinion sway you from the one you love. . . yep stll got our XLs couse we love em.😊
I say, we need to get an "American Dyna CONservation Society" started, short ADCONS. These are the bikes we grew up with, the bikes we could afford and the bikes we did the majority of work on ourselves or with our pals.... Yeah, those were the days, the days we worked with wrenches and not Laptops to fix 'em! Long live the Dyna.
My riding buddy went from a 2018 CVO street Glide, then bought a 2020 114 LRS, then bought a 2022 Low Rider ST El Diablo. The EL D gets the most riding, buddy is 67 years old.
Hey this 76 year old rider got bagger fever back in 2008 when I traded up from a 2007 Dyna SE. My 2012 bagger is like riding my easy chair at this age...LOL! Enjoyed the video, comments, and agree completely and if I ever got a drink from the fountain of youth would do the same!
I’m a fan of the classic and more barebones look. I ride a softail that I’ve made my own little tweaks to and I love it. I’ve rode the baggers and I won’t deny, they are comfortable. They are like riding a sofa on two wheels. If I ever get to a point that I can’t do a long trip on a softail frame, I’ll consider it, but for now, I’m sticking with the cruiser.
I sold my 16 RGS and went back to a 2020 Street Bob. I've had 2 shoulder surgeries and that RG wore me out and was rough on my joints. SB is lighter and more forgiving for me.
I bought a standard in 2020 love it my dad got a sportglide and for his birthday me and my siblings got him a exhaust and I rode it around and that bike with its inverted forks and bags and little fairing is great I know it isn't a st but for a person who wants a lot of what the st has the sportglide is also a great alternative for the price if you can find one since they don't make them anymore. Thanks for the video
Bro you are 100% correct I’ve had two baggers and I always ride it like a dirt bike , now since this bike came out I’m taking the plung on the low rider st
@@FXDLSBrooklyn oh it’s a done deal, and I had a flhtc classic and just sold my flhtcu ultra classic for the st keep the content coming! Cheers from CT
I’ve done the full circle. First bike was an 07 Street bob. Traded in for a 21 LRS, then to a 17 SGS, then to a 22 RGS. I’ve now completed the circle and ended up on a 21 Street Bob because I missed feeling like I’m on a bike and not a recliner.
My dyna I did some cheap 1 piece t bars, step up seat, quarter fairing, etc. The SOA special. I’m still in progress on the 21 street bob. I’ve done SDC seat, LED blinkers front and rear, moons mc light bar, tab zombie slip ons, and thrashin militant pegs. All I have left is the bars and I’m gonna do thrashin 6.5 pullback risers, steel bushings, and their aggressive mid bend bar.
All this time later, I am actually of the school of thought that your first motorcycle should be something small, not as powerful, and cheap - A used Sportster or a Honda Rebel I feel like is a good choice for at least your first year
I bought a 2023 street bob and I take it on long rides with no issues 👍🏻 I did buy a Harley clamp on windshield which made a big difference on long rides. But I love it!
May take a test ride on the Low Rider ST. My 2010 RG is long paid for and I have had lots of great tours on it. Canada, Sturgis, Washington,DC and the usual local rides to mountains or sea. But maybe it's time to get into a different Harley motorcycle.
Sold my 2011 Street Glide CVO this spring and bought a 99 FXDX. The Glide was too big and bulky for my tastes, sold it after 18 months. I still have an 86 FXRD Grand Touring for my Supper Club nights and Fall Rides.
I'm a youthful and fit 60 year old and have a different twist, my 2022 FXLRS is the first HD I ever liked, it's in my opinion the Company's best ever motorcycle. I've put roughly 6000 miles through it since May 2023 touring on it all over Maine and the North East. I'm 6' tall and 210lbs and this LR is comfortable. I've dialed it in for me with Thrashin Supply footboards and bags a Warrior windshield and Cobra NH slip ons. I have the only Gunship Grey FXLRS in an area with hundreds of Street and Road Glides, get compliments and looks from older riders every day. The 117 in a sub 700 lb bike is enough for anyone. The power to weight ratio is everything. Loving mine.
Really glad to read this - I have heard a lot of people around your height claiming they are too tall to make that bike work, but sounds like you got it dialed in right ⚡️
@@FXDLSBrooklyn Most definitely. Just lately it seems a lot of people have been whining about something or other. I wish I could afford one of the newer ones, but I'll stick with my '06 Softail Not-so-Standard. I tend to keep them a while, that's my second new Harley, the first being a '92 Heritage. You know, even with the new fangled EFI, and all the other vast improvements that took place in between those two bikes, I still miss the carburetted Evo. It was slower, longer warm up time, didn't handle well, but she ate up those big miles with ease and never let me down. Don't get me wrong, I love the '06, and it's been heaps of fun and a great project that never seems to end, but there was something about that old Evo that I miss.
I gave my son my 2001 Roadking which was my dream bike. I bought my subsequent dream HD for a 2006 Springer Classic. Different strokes for different folks. I love a Springer front end and not going with the crowd.
I rode my buddies Low Rider ST in Sturgis, (of all places), this year when he wanted to give a girl a ride so we swapped for the day. (Mine, a 2020 RG with a 131 for his, a 2023 Low Rider ST with a 117), At my stature of 6'3" with girth found myself riding a mini bike. She pulled nice but I just couldn't get comfortable. He loves it, but then again he's probably 5'6" and skinny. Ride what makes you feel good, but if you're going to purchase one please rent one first for a day to make sure you fit
Don't know, it started to rain in Deadwood, I headed back and they stayed. Didn't see him again till the next day and by that time he was solo@@FXDLSBrooklyn
I have bags on my Heritage Softail. I'll never be one to go on long cross country trips on a bike... but even daily riding, it's just too handy to have the bags if it means I can ride, rather than have to jump in the truck.
Awsome video, and yes i am too one of those , I did trade in my 21 FLHX for 23 FXLR ST. For me it was all those same reason as you mentioned. But I will say Cheaper??? Well not by much. But I am very glad I did , as it suits me better . Keep up the great work.
No regrets at all , it’s everything I wanted in bike. Plus it’s one bike that can do everything, I mean from city to touring . I will say I am 5’7 and much better fitted with this bike than the RG, or SG. But I will say both those bike are fen nice to have but not for me .
Second time I've "stepped down" from a bagger. In 2016 I got rid of a road glide for a dyna lowrider s. Got a road glide again a few years when I was let down for what the sport glide was compared to what I expected. I couldn't say no to the st after a year of looking at it. One test ride and I couldn't help myself
When I want faster and lighter I jump on the Speed Triple, if I want to cruise two up or tour I ride my SG. When I want to just go back to just the basics of a motorcycle I kick over the Shovel, no one said you can only ride one type of bike. Oh, I almost forgot when I feel the urge to ride forest service or back country roads I jump on the mighty DR, I still love riding them all and will until the day comes I no longer can.
Longtime viewer here I no longer own a Harley, but I still watch his channel and enjoy it. No One mention is that these touring bikes with these extreme temperatures in the summer being stuck in traffic that thing is like having a barbecue between your legs, I got rid of mine got on the Africa twin for me adventure bikes, are the way to go.
Nice! I'm not a Harley owner either but enjoyer of motovlog channels lol. For me the thing that's kept me from Harley is simply the prices. I've been riding a Triumph Speedmaster for the past 2 years that I found for only 11K with less than 500 miles when I found it. It's been a phenomenal commuter bike for me. The Africa twin is a solid bike! Adv bikes probably do have the best utility of all the biking categories, but I'm too vain to get one lol. I love the retro styled bikes too much, I reckon I'll get a second bike that's a scrambler to fit that taste
Man I have a few buddies who moved on to Africa Twins from the Dyna/Bagger world - Got to see the Africa Twin in person and throw a leg over it two weeks ago, and my oh my, is that an amazing bike 💥
Had a 17 Street Bob for a few years. Traded the 17 for a 21 RG Special after my accident, and I haven't looked back since. The M8 moves when you have right combo of engine mods. Plus the HPI 2 into 1 pipe looks, so nice.
@@FXDLSBrooklyn to keep it all warranty friendly, it's a SE torque cam with a tune to match the cam and the pipe, paired with an Arlen Ness (RIP) high flow air cleaner. So my factory warranty is still happy, without fear of getting nickle and dimed to death while I ride like a bat of hell for the another year. Then high comp pistons, studs, and more Cu Inches!
I have a 92’ FXR im thinking about selling it, its not perfect has about 42k on it, but pistons and rings were done at about 20k only because the jugs came off due to base gasket leak , all done by previous owner, other than that, basically its stock, its the FXR with chrome dash on the tank with the speedometer in it, I’ve owned this bike since early 2000’s , it’s been very reliable, only thing holding me back from letting it go is the bike market is sooo low , im not willing to give it away!
I took a FLXR-S out for a week of riding and dragged knees on it... I've been a sport bike rider for decades, but I had a great time riding it... Now that Buell Super Cruiser... that thing looks like the bike Harley should be making.
I bought my RG in '06. I was 41. I still have the same bike. I had no bags, I had leather bags, milk crates and back packs on the mc's I owned prior to the RG. The thing is, bikes are like shoes. You need more than one because you never know what you need. But...if I can only have one, it will be the RG. And, that is why I have the same bike for 17 years. Going faster? Why? How fast do you want to go. It will never be fast enough because you will out grow it.
I own a 2012 super glide with a 96 I’m 5’9 220 and i rode it to Kansas with ease I’ve had for 5 years and I don’t see myself growing out of it I’d say it’s perfect
I had a street glide for 3 years, loved it, but decided that i wanted "smaller". After going back to sport bike and a dyna, then older softail... and after STRONGLY considering a Lowrider ST I've found myself back on a '24 road glide for couple reasons. As mentioned you hardly go back, once you get used to the ride comfort, stereo/gadgets, and a feel for the touring models it seems to be hard to change. I was looking new, so the cost from ST to Road Glide was around ~$3000 which is a lot, but getting the Navigation, stereo and familiarity (for me) made it the better buy.
I traded in my sportster 1200 iron for a sport glide a few years back. Best decision I made. As far as handlebars go, I love the road glide handlebars, so I switched out the stock ones. Really comfortable ride now. I'm not leaning forward as much.
When I looked at the Low Rider ST, I thought if I were a single rider, that would definitely be the bike for me. But since I ride 2-up with my wife, the best performance bike for us has been the Indian Pursuit. It's a heavy bike, but when throwing it into a curve it doesn't feel heavy at all. It feels like a big sportbike. I can certainly see the attraction to a sport-touring bike.
That's what's up - I am able to get away with a lot of two-up riding on the ST, but I have little to no experience with the pursuit, actually saw one on my block recently, looks like a great bike
@FXDLSBrooklyn It is. Actually, when I said riding 2-up, that included long distance touring. I could do a road trip on a Low Rider ST by myself. But the wife with me, more storage space would be required. Us guys can get by with just a few necessary things. The ladies, they know how to use every bit of storage space a big bagger has. LOL!!
Here is my experience. I went on a ride with about 8 other guys. I had an Ultra, they had various models, but no baggers. They were all making fun of me for having an old man bike. We stopped at a cool little store in the mountains that sold collectables. Several of the guys bought stuff there. They all asked me if I would put their purchases in my trunk. Since they had been so persistent in giving me a hard time, I told them to stick it up their a$$. Spend your hard earned money on what you like, but for me, you cannot beat an Ultra.
The classic situation 😝
I thought all HDs were old mens bike....Thats why they are called low testosterone bikes!
3 dozen beer and a pizza in that tour pak , now who's the fave guy !
+1! The "cool bike" folks ALWAYS hit up the "suitcase on wheels" crew to carry their cargo. I tell 'em to POUND SAND.
The Harley baggers will always live on as they are the zenith motorcycle produced by Harley Davidson. If you want uncompromising comfort with all the benefits of a touring motorcycle, and in some models... raw unbridled performance, you will have a Harley bagger. Dismal thought to even contemplate the absence of Harley baggers. Ride on!👍
As someone who in the last 3 years, has gone from a Low Rider S to a Fat Bob to a Road Glide, I find this interesting. I kept trying to make my softails into touring bikes. Once I rode an actual touring bike, for me, there was no going back.
Yeah I think that's definitely been what I have noticed pre-ST days - You had a Dyna LRS or M8?
This is me. I had a Sportster and then a 2017 (old Softail) Heritage. I tried to make both into touring bikes. Now I'm riding a Street Glide. I'd never go back to riding without a faring. Also, I've spent $40 to 45k total getting my SG dialed in. It has everything. There is no reason for me to trade ever.
@@stevend8785 Nice ! I too have a 2020 Street Glide Special. Interested what your best mods where. I added a higher saddleman road sofa seat and the wind noise from the fairing is so loud ! Thought it was my simpson helmet until I rode my unfaired V Rod ....so much quieter
@@stevebeck9470 long ride shield curved windshield, legends revo cartridges of front, dirty air on back, Wood cam, rcx 4.5” exhaust, leds all around, painted dash, Fosgate amp and speakers, lower fairings, etc.
Paul yaffe bars, saddleman seat, etc, only thing left is maybe a tour pack.
I am fortunate enough to own an FXR, a Heritage Softail and an Ultraglide Classic. They each have their own purpose.
Such an excellent garage - Just got off my FXR minutes ago, really missed that bike
You are quite fortunate, and a BADASS too.
Same, I own an Electra Glide and a softail Fat Bob. Love em both!!
I own a 92 FXLR, a 17 RK, a 70 BSA Lighting, and a 95 Sportster 883XL, which I will add some bags on the existing brackets. I am fortunate enough to choose which bike I ride, for where I am going.
I'm 68 years old 5'7" 160 lbs. Have 54 years of riding and always 0n a stripped down, minimalist bobber style HD, Love the latest M8 Lowrider ST's performance, reduced weight, mono shock suspension, etc. Love just riding with no bags, windshield, fairing or any other extra accessories ...
Sometimes simplicity just beats all - Appreciate you stopping by!
@@FXDLSBrooklyn 2020 sg FLHX 107. Tour pak stretched bags. Extra lites 70500 miles of joy. Bags on bags off. ✌🏻❤️🫵🏻💯😎
IF someone has sold their bagger, someone is buying them. Whats the point?
You beat me to my comment. The bagger is still on the road.
The cycle continues - But I think I should have been more specific, and it was not so much sales as it was trade ins, which is a different thing
EXACTLY!
Exactly
Lol
Great piece! I'm about a month away from hitting my 70th trip around the sun and have never owned a bagger. Not that I haven't looked at them and appreciate what they offer, but I love the flexibility that my '18 Sport Glide gives me. I can ride long distance if I want or make short trips around town or to and from work. She's quick and maneuverable and as I become more seasoned (or get older as some would say), I also appreciate the relatively lighter weight of the bike. I haven't done a lot of work on my ride: an LA Fairing Co El Diablo fairing, upgraded HD grips, 4" pull back risers, Memphis Shades hand guards, and a detachable HD sissy bar/luggage rack combo, and Kuryakyn floorboards. Keep up the great work!
I'm continued to be surprised with how many people have wrote into this video praising the Sport Glide, didn't realize that bike had such a following - Good to hear man, wishing you a Happy Birthday if we don't hear from you between now and then!
The sport glide is perfect for rip around fun and touring.
A lot of people like myself don't move on to a touring HD and never go back. We just add a tourer to the rest of our collection for a different purpose. I ride my SG for comfort, distance rides, ability to carrying stuff, combining rides with running errands, two up riding and then i can get my adrenelin fix on my 200 hp 400 lb Ducati with about 2 square inchs of storage space or vintage musclebike i"ve owned for over 40 years. I bought the SG new, the Ducati used with 3400 miles, and my GS musclebike plus all the extensive modificationons on all of the bikes and have less than the cost of a new touring CVO in all 3.
I think if have the capacity to have multiple bikes in the stable, that's the move - If I had to have only one bike for all purposes though, it would be the ST hands down
I’m 6’4” and was dead set on a Low Rider ST…until a 10 mile test ride caused excruciating hip pain for 5 days afterward. Ended up going with a RGST but still lust after the looks of the Low Rider every time I walk into the dealership.
This, I’m the same height and anything on my Dyna over 300 miles is tough. Baggers are the only good option for us tall dudes who put down miles!
You can put forwards on a LRST.
@@isorides I considered that, but also had the issue of major head buffeting, even after trying the taller windscreen from the dealer. If I were below 6’ that bike would belong to me
You nailed it. I'm a smaller guy and I just bought a SG. I just can't seem to get comfortable on it because of the weight. I think the ST might be for me. Came from a Deluxe.
So Dan who owns O'Toole's Harley Davidson is around that height, and he's done a few things to make it work with him - He just did a distance trip heading west and said the bike performed excellently, I can refer you to him if you want to ask him what he did
I think people are intimidated with the size and weight of the streetglide and road glide etc. but you learn a few maneuvers and it is no different than a smaller bike.
In terms of handling a bike, 100% - But at the end of the day, if I can cut weight off the bike and still feasibly tour on it, best believe I will - Thanks for checking it out!
Until you get older and start to really feel the weight.
I find harley touring bikes easier to maneuver around than smaller bikes. Easier than older homda cb bikes like the 750 or goldwings of any year. Same goes for honda shadows or vulcans
Not intimidated. Just know how to add it up.
I'd never own anything but a bagger or an adventure bike for their practicality alone.If I could have one bike,I'd choose either of those.
I´m from Germany and I have a 1993 FLHS for 30 years now. It had been customized and has been my touring bike all the years. Years ago I bought a 100th Anniversary Wide Glide, but only for short rides and not for touring. But two months ago, I purchased a 2019 Sport Glide FLSB, which I think performs quite similar to the Low Rider ST: lighter, faster, better to handle and absolutely perfect for touring. I know I will never sell my old FLHS lady, but I think, I will take the Sport Glide for the next big tour through the Alps. :) So, after all: yes, you are right! Harley made a step to combine touring with more performance.
Yeah I would hold onto that 93 FLH, there's something that's just really cool about the Evo baggers from that era
72 now and no garbage barges for me.....ever...6' 6" and currently riding a 1993 stage 2 FXDL....with of course forward controls.
Hell yeah - Love the Evo Dynas 🏁 ⚡️
Haven't ridden in 20 years and now want to tour. At 61 the weight of the baggers was bumming me out. I knew it wasn't if I dropped it but when. I didn't realize Harely had done this. I got to catch up. This looks like the way to go. Thanks for the info.
You got it - Let us know how it works out for you ⚡️
I believe nothing looks as good as a road glide or challenger dark horse 🐎
Except an FXR
All these bikes mentioned are exceptional and very pleasing to the eyes.
Except literally anything else
Dark Horse, yea being a Hoda fan indian would be the only thing i would cross, never Harley uless is used and cheap, never an Ahole dealer.
Good content! I've never been interested in a big heavy bagger.
Me neither - Appreciate you checking it out 🏁 ⚡️
I own a Honda 1200 I have done a 600 miles trip on it. It came down to it was under 10k it looks good and i like the way it rides. You should buy a bike you like to ride.
Agreed!
My Sportster 1200 is set up like this ! I swapped my belt out for chain drive an said see ya on the hwy to the road glide with bags , turn down pipes , and a fwd facing intake and rejet for proper tune, and airbags with compressor, custom cool kat one piece wheels, & a screaming eagle clutch.. it’s a great bike. I’m 6 feet and did 800 miles in Az. On it in a weekend sat-sun and had a great time. I feel like as long as you have vision you can do ALOT with any line of Harley as long as time -- tons of time , and money you can customize just about any of em to your needs .
This is great - Glad to hear you doing this especially you being on the taller side of things - Bike must rip
Not in California, Road Glides, Street Glides and Road Kings are top dawgs. I’ve only saw people buying the Lowrider ST for a 2nd bike but never downgrade from a bagger. Reason why we are evolving to the performance bagger trend. Don’t hate brother😂😂😂
Zero hate brother, nothing but love for my west coast and performance bagger people, as I have a lot of friends within that intersection - Appreciate you stopping by!
They made these baby baggers for women to ride comfortable and confident.
No they're not. That just the couple guys you ride with.
The Low Rider St looks great. The 117 up grade with 100 lbs of fat trimmed is great. The three issues I have are:
1) The lack of storage space (my computer and its extras) being the main problem. The ST bags just aren't big enough for what I need.
2) My RG has has some add-ons (maybe not the biggest motor or the highest price pipes and bars) that would cost $$$ to add to a new bike.
3) Most important reason why I'll stay with my RG: IT IS PAID OFF....NO MONTHLY BIKE PAYMENTS!!!
So some people are swapping out the ST bags for extended bagger bags or Leatherpros - In my situation because when I do the bike trips I always pack a large sissy bar bag, the size of the ST bags are actually perfect, and that's talking for 7000+ mile bike trips
I added a quick release tour pack to mine because of my work laptop situation. I found the side bags too small by time you add work stuff, jackets, etc. Cant beat a bike being paid off though!
I’m 6’2 235 lbs and I did a test ride on a low rider ST and it was just too small. For shorter guys it’s the perfect bike but a bagger is way more comfortable for guys built like me. I can really stretch out on my road glide plus the speakers are sick
I think out the box, that's probably true - However, I know a couple guys on the taller side who have done some mods to make the ST work for them
Same here to say pretty much exactly what you wrote. The ST is laughably small.
We just did a trip across the USA from California back to Toronto. I was on a bagger and my business partner was on a low rider ST and that thing absolutely crushed it, the only difference was the gas mileage, I’d be able to go a bit longer before filling up.
That's a great trip right there - For me, compared to the Dyna/FXR life, I'm always blown away with the mileage that I get out of my ST
The fuel tank on a Low Rider ST is 5.0 gallons.
I’ve rode the big dressers all my life. Went back this year and bought a used Heritage. Love how it rides.
My Dad had a Heritage at one point when I was a kid, think absolutely ripped ⚡️
Already threw bags and the FXR fairing on my 2021 FXLRS...now it's an ST that I love to look at
Excellent formula - What bags did you go with?
@FXDLSBrooklyn went with the saddlemen bags...no quick release but they do the job and look great
Last year i sold my Victory bagger for a LRST and i gotta say its probably the nicest out of the box HD I've ever ridden. Rode from Ct to the milwaukee 120th anniversary event. Loved it, the LR is perfectly capable for long distance. 1k a day is very possible.
Nice! I was at the 120th as well, had a blast out there! Glad the ST has been working for you!
@FXDLSBrooklyn I have pictures of your bike near the museum!
I ran into Vongasphalt on the ride back to Connecticut too. Are you going to be doing any rides in the tristate area open to followers/subscribers?
7:29 😂🤣 lol love that from before you buy
We're ascending new heights Paul - Glad to have you with us! 🏁 ⚡️
I made the switch. Have road Road Glide Customs/Specials for the last 12 years. For a lot of the reasons you highlighted in this video. I love my FXRST(El Diablo). Zero regrets about it. Faster, lighter, and sweet jesus the handling. Keep up the good work brother PMA all day
Man, congrats on an excellent bike that will go down in history ⚡️
I always had to ride a bagger because I told my camper trailer behind it and I need the bigger brake system and I use it for going around the country. One trip was from Beverly Hills Florida to Fairbanks, Alaska, camping and all the Providence parks and United States parks I’m 5 foot eight 140 pounds I wish I had a smaller bike but I had to lower the back into Inches so I can get my feet on the ground with the bagger
That sounds like a spectacular trip! 🏁 ⚡
@@FXDLSBrooklyn It was a fantastic trip four months and14,000 miles. I took my time and enjoyed every bit of it. I meet a lot of very good people.
Have you tried the Indian challenger? If you wanna go faster on a bagger. As well as it has the inverted front forks and mono rear. And many other features. I personally chose the Indian challenger over the Low rider ST as I felt I got more for my dollar.
I haver ZERO experience with Indian at all, never ridden one
@FXDLSBrooklyn My man, you gotta try it. Would be dope for you to do a comparison.
@@FXDLSBrooklyn”Sewer Rat 🐀 might taste like pumpkin pie 🥧, but I’ll never know, cuz I’ll never try it.” 😂😂😂😂
This ain't just a thing in America, by the way. Asian here, dad's a Road King owner and was considering a Low Rider ST because the RK was getting heavy for him (and Harley Manila had run out of Street Bobs at the time). Ended up buying a secondhand Slim to save money, but he was *reeaaally* tempted until we saw that ad.
Asia is a big place, where are we talking?
@@FXDLSBrooklyn Philippines, hence Harley Manila.
@@Vee_231 That's what's up - I've seen some really mean builds come from out there!
Didn't sell my baggers but did add a Lowrider ST to the garage this year. Everything you said about weight , spot on. Increasing speed through horsepower is expensive but dropping weight can net the same result. What surprised me most was doing a 685 mile day on her this summer and it didn't suck. Even with the stock seat. Not going to give up my Street Glide for touring. I did 5665 miles this summer on a 10 day trip with 7 riding days. That's an average of 800 a day and for that the LRST would punish you. For a weekend trip up PCH, game on!
I hear you - I guess I come from a world where I do the 800 average mile day trips on a dyna, so the Low Rider ST feels luxurious compared to that - I love them both though - It's good to hear you got that 700 mile day out of the ST, that's what's up
5’7” I just got a Lowrider ST… 💪🏽😎❤️🤛🏽 got the thrashin
9 1/2 inch pullbacks with the mid bars along with the gauge relocation.. can’t wait till they’re installed next week.
Sick! Let me know how it pans out - You do anything else?
Edward Richie sissy bar , saddlemen SDC gripper. Some thrashin foot pegs. ..
Great take on this subject bro! I’ve been saying it for years. Sport touring is where it’s heading with the amount of cost and especially the economy is looking like. People are just going to want a faster and cheaper option.
My man! Good catching up with you a few weeks ago - We'll have to get a little Bear Mountain cruise in soon before the big freeze, assuming they've reopened it by now - Thanks for saying what's up June ⚡️
Bro, '23 LRST stock is $22,199. Stock Road Glide is $21,999.
I have a 16 road glide. I just recently bought a 23 lowrider s. I kept the road glide for the longer trips, but i grew up on dynas and love my lowrider s.
Good to have options 😎
I sold my bagger FLHX and moved up. I'm 58 and got tired of driving an 850lb bike. I bought a Triumph Tiger 900 adventure bike and gave up on the silly dream of how cool I look driving a Harley. Nobody cares what you drive. I have had more fun driving an adventure bike than I ever had on my bagger. And, yes I did test ride a Low Rider ST in Laconia this year. Not arguing, ride whatever you like.
Agreed! How's that Tiger running?
Agreed. I was in Maggie Valley this past week and was lusting after all the adventure bikes I saw in town and I own a Harley. I think ADV bikes just seem more practical and versatile. My wife was not as amused by the idea. Honestly, I like all kinds of bikes and I'm fine riding solo😂
@FXDLSBrooklyn I must say, best bike I've ever owned. Great motor, fantastic suspension. All stock. Unlike my FLHX, which I spent thousands on just to be as good as a stock Triumph.
agree with your analysis, I had two Road King in the past and now I am riding a 114 Low Rider S, so much fun to ride and with my 64 years so much easier to handle and also so many more ways to personalize it as the Softail platform...
100% - What have you done to it so far?
@@FXDLSBrooklyn for the moment I have mounted a Heritage shock to have more comfort, a Sport Glide seat, a pair of "End Game" pegs from HD and 5.5" Drag Specialities risers for better ergonomics, a pair of Twin Slash for the sound and also the aesthetic, a license plate support with built-in led light from Thunderbike for a slimmer rear end, a big solo leather bag on the left with a sissy bar and a lugage rack from HD to take my things with me when I'm away for several days and also a cruise control . Next step will be a Road Warrior fairing for winter and wind protection. I feel fine with this bike even it is a bit sportier for my style of riding, I will perhaps go with a Street Bob next year, which a more cool bike...
This is so funny that I came across this video. I treaded my 2020 road glide special to a 2023 low rider s. I did this 3 weeks ago. And 3 of those things are why I did it. Lighter cheaper payment and cost and faster. A lot of my buddies say I am stupid for doing it. But I don’t regret it.
I can't believe how many people have messaged me and left comments with this sentiment - You're not alone! You do anything else to it besides the controls?
@@FXDLSBrooklyn I haven’t done anything to it it is stock
Been at this Harley thing since 1971 , I've had at least one ever since , at the ripe old age of 22 I got my first bagger , a new 1978 FLH , and promptly broke it in on a trip from Norfolk Va to San Diego Ca by way of Alaska .. In 1984 I got my first Tour Glide and I have been a TG/RG guy ever since .. I came real close to getting a 1986 FXRT , but didnt want to get rid of the TG . My friend the dealer gave it to me for a few days and I loved it .. Always had a soft spot for the Super Glide/Low Rider/Wide Glides and the idea of a FX based tourer has always been in the back of my mind as a great idea . The FXRT was ahead of it's time .. I would seriously consider the new Low Rider and bags , but I'd have to do some adjustments to make it right .. I've ridden a few and they just don't fit me .. Lighter is a big thing with birthdays behind me ..
Couldn't agree with you more on the FXRT being ahead of its time - My FXR is my daily rider, and not a mile doesn't go by that I don't love that damn bike - That Alaska trip sounds sick
I bought a brand new FXRT in 1984. The MOCO produced a legitimate sport tourer way back when. It was a great machine, my gf and I put about 60k on it trekking all over Eastern Canada and New England. So, the idea isn't new but I think the market has changed enough to allow this bike sales success. I'm riding an Ultra bagger and Heritage. Depends on mood and destination which one gets out of the stable. Good content man, thanks
Damn, you lived the absolute dream back in 1984, cheers to that - Whatever became of that bike?
@@FXDLSBrooklyn I kept it until 89, I was young and impulse so I sold it and went to a low mile one owner Electra Glide. At the time it was a great bike, but like the shovels and pans of that time it was just another bike. I also had a 46 Knuckle at the time that I was having a great time with. You don't always know what you got till it's gone. That would be a great song lyric? 🎵
Just get another one. I have an 03 Ultra, a 2001 FXDX w/124, 67 shovel, and 86 FXWG. But it gets hard to decide what to take out sometimes.
I have a 2001 DX as well - That thing must be absolutely insane with a 124 in it, like straight to the moon fast
I sold my 2022 Road Glide and bought a 2004 FXDX. Literally couldn't be happier man, it actually feels like I'm on a motorcycle again.
I just got one as my first bike! Can’t help but I got off to a great start
Man I absolutely love my 2001 FXDX - That's a bike I will never be able to let go.
I notice there are a lot of Harleys for sale in my area at prices unheard of a few short years ago. Prices are coming down for sportsters from 4000 to 7000 dollars with low mileage of under 10K. Many in like new condition. At the same time smaller bikes are going up in price. This doesn't make sense.
I have noticed this similar trend 👀
From RG to Lowrider St. I’m 6’1 at 210 lbs and also a disabled veteran, the weight difference and me no longer able to do long trips the bike made sense. Enough room for my work essentials and gear.
Another one! That's good to hear - How has the bike trips been for you on the ST?
Nice video. I own several harleys. Even an AMF. Currently ride an Indian Springfield on a daily. Looking at the sport chief
Sick! What AMF year/model?
I won’t lie, I’ve debated trading down from my Road Glide ST to the LRST. Haven’t test rode the LRST but I had a LRS with a Memphis shades fairing prior to my road glide. Miss how lightweight it was, the CR480 cam made it stupid fast, and the lucky Dave’s 13 bar fit me so damn well.
Yeah I still need to throw a cam in my ST, but honestly, thing rips without one - Go test ride on, let us know!
@@FXDLSBrooklyn I got a Woods 22xe and a Fuel Moto RTX 2 into 1 that’s dyno tuned by Caliente Harley. It’s a great setup and I can’t complain at all on how it runs on the Road glide. This combo on a lighter bike would be even better though. I’m gonna shoot for next weekend to test ride.
Rode mine 720 miles in under 12 hours, boppin along to the tunes in my lid, still felt great at the end and the next day.
That's pretty damn good time! You should have kept going and cleared the 1k in one day!
I’ve been buying every Bagger I can find and reselling them, it’s extremely profitable!
Really?
@@FXDLSBrooklyn yes sir.
Another great one bud. I'll say it again, love this format! Great info for a lot of people to really consider 🤘🏼
Much appreciated man! Sometimes you gotta switch it up ⚡️
Can’t wait to see those Buell Super Cruiser sales
I'm with you there!
I just got back from a 5 day NC trip. Did the Tail on my 09 Street Bob. I love that bike and I've only had it a short time. I'm trying to figure out how to get a Fast Johnny Low Rider. I'm not selling the SB either.
That's what''s up man! Did a trip to the tail this summer on my Dyna and had a blast! For me there was no way in hell I was ever getting rid of either of my Dynas, so the ST was an addition for me rather than a trade
Interesting. I’m 76 years old. I started with a sportster in the 1970s. My second bike was a big twin and it was ridged frame chopper. I was a chopper guy most of my life with a couple of Lowrider shovel heads thrown in there. I didn’t keep any of them very long. when heritage softail’s came along, that was my natural way to go as I was getting older. I went from there to a road king and finally a road glide. The road glide was my very first and only brand new bike. I really enjoyed the bike for touring but around town It was kind of a handful. I was about to turn 70. I sold that bike and got into Dyna’s. So far I have had five Dynas, all twin cams. I sold my last one about a year ago when I moved to Texas. I’m just finishing what may very well be my last motorcycle. It started out as of totaled 1988 Evo. I’m just finishing wiring right now. I’m back to a rigid Frame with a six over Springer. I’m back to choppers and that’s where I will be from here on out.
I was on tour in Europe for 10 days and it was hard work on my Street Glide in the wet Alps after spinal surgery. Took her Sport Glide for a run as it had been sat for a few weeks and could not believe the difference. So traded the Street Glide Special and now have my 2023 Low Rider ST
Another one bites the dust!
I keep trying to convince my vertically challenged friends to get away from the baggers and to hop on a soft tail- most of us ain’t going coast to coast every weekend and those soft tails are plenty for the type of rides majority of folks are doing… but what the hell do I know, maybe they will listen to you 😂😂😂
Great Vid.
Tell them I said it's worth it ⚡️
I've got 03 Electra glide nice bike,just a little slow for my taste. So I punched the cylinders.30 over. Gives the 88" a little more umph. Should've built the 96" head's I think I'd be happier with that build. So I guess what I'm saying is this. We are always on the quest for something a little different for our riding pleasure. So now I'll take the test ride. Ya know,figure it out. Good vid and good knowledge. Thanks.
Much appreciated! I have a Dyna with an 88 twin cam in it, and I think about going a little higher in terms of motor work all the time - Turning that motor into a hot rod situation is definitely on the list at some point - Thanks again for checking it out!
One thing that is stopping me from going to the lowrider is that it definitely seems like a single person touring option. I think in the interest of comfort for a riding partner, the touring options are still going to be your go-to. If you’re going long distance solo however, the ST looks like the best of both worlds.
I could see how someone would think that - I recently did multiple 2up moto camping trips with the old lady this summer, and they were all successful - However, if passenger comfort is your main priority, the bagger line is probably going to be the move
@@FXDLSBrooklyn Well, the stupid thing doesn't even come with a passenger seat or footpegs or even a functional windshield! It does have the same engine as the baggers, so by the time you've spent the money to correct all the deficiencies, it will be better than a bagger- lighter and faster.
Every guy that said " ill mever be a bagger guy" will end up being a bagger guy. , i use to say it as well.
I say it all the time - It's been going pretty well so far
So, people are figuring out that riding the heaviest bike with absolutely every feature you can think of is not really needed just to ride 10 miles to the bar? Its like buying a semi tractor just to get around town, who does that?
Truth - However, I will say for the purpose of crushing heavy mile days, those newer touring models simply do it effortlessly
first i would like to say ride what you love, make it your what ever it is. I love true custom bikes and that to me for me is a chopper/bobber, that said my wife and I also have a hopped up Dyna and a street glide, Point is the stock street glide is as fast as the Dyna, and im not the only one to notice. it is in the gearing of the transmition. been riding for over 30 years i still LOVE sportys . . . last point ; many people felt there first bike should be a bagger. . .then heared about how great the dynas are , and a good many bagger riders felt they should try the smaller sexyer bike themselfs . . .NEVER let anothers opinion sway you from the one you love. . . yep stll got our XLs couse we love em.😊
100% - At the end of the day you gotta find what works for you and just rip it ⚡️
I prefer a larger, more protective, front fender. Nice video
Yeah my Dad actually just upgraded to one of those on his Ultra
I say, we need to get an "American Dyna CONservation Society" started, short ADCONS. These are the bikes we grew up with, the bikes we could afford and the bikes we did the majority of work on ourselves or with our pals.... Yeah, those were the days, the days we worked with wrenches and not Laptops to fix 'em! Long live the Dyna.
100% - The Dyna will never die ⚡️
At this point, I'm just waiting for Harley to bring it back as part of the Icon line.
2008 Low Rider Dyna owner here. Love it. Got the V & H Bigshot staggered pipes and she is good to blow.
Nice! How do you like the exuast
Literally no one here in California is going down to a low rider lol personally I know 4 ppl that went from low riders to baggers
Can you tell those four people to like this video 🙃
My riding buddy went from a 2018 CVO street Glide, then bought a 2020 114 LRS, then bought a 2022 Low Rider ST El Diablo. The EL D gets the most riding, buddy is 67 years old.
Hey this 76 year old rider got bagger fever back in 2008 when I traded up from a 2007 Dyna SE. My 2012 bagger is like riding my easy chair at this age...LOL! Enjoyed the video, comments, and agree completely and if I ever got a drink from the fountain of youth would do the same!
That's what's up man! Would love to hear more about that 2007 Dyna you were running!
Baggers are a dime a dozen.
Truth
That’s all I saw at the 120th
If I was going to get a large Harley I would get a road king.
I’m a fan of the classic and more barebones look. I ride a softail that I’ve made my own little tweaks to and I love it. I’ve rode the baggers and I won’t deny, they are comfortable. They are like riding a sofa on two wheels. If I ever get to a point that I can’t do a long trip on a softail frame, I’ll consider it, but for now, I’m sticking with the cruiser.
The new baggers are kind of a different beast at this point
I sold my 16 RGS and went back to a 2020 Street Bob. I've had 2 shoulder surgeries and that RG wore me out and was rough on my joints. SB is lighter and more forgiving for me.
I love those newer Street Bobs, I'm surprised I don't see more of them
I bought a standard in 2020 love it my dad got a sportglide and for his birthday me and my siblings got him a exhaust and I rode it around and that bike with its inverted forks and bags and little fairing is great I know it isn't a st but for a person who wants a lot of what the st has the sportglide is also a great alternative for the price if you can find one since they don't make them anymore. Thanks for the video
Excellent point - You guys are great kids man, I often get my Dad parts for his birthday as well 🏁 ⚡️
@@FXDLSBrooklyn we recently lost our mom and we really wanted to do something special for him and I appreciate it
Yes, lighter, cheaper, touring. Springfield Indian 2016. I still have, 66 yrs old, 5’9, like camping, but will be looking into one, used.
Keep ripping! Let us know how it works out!
The FXLRST is my favorite bike, but I still LOVE the Road King Special and decided to get one for a second bike.
Had a Street Glide ST. Got a Low Rider ST. No regrets.
PREACH
This sums up the reason I got a 21 sport glide instead of a huge bagger. This was before they made the ST.
I feel like a lot of people were in that boat - I can't say I have seen anyone trade a sport glide for an ST, at least not yet 👀
Bro you are 100% correct I’ve had two baggers and I always ride it like a dirt bike , now since this bike came out I’m taking the plung on the low rider st
Another one - Let us know how it works out ⚡️
@@FXDLSBrooklyn oh it’s a done deal, and I had a flhtc classic and just sold my flhtcu ultra classic for the st keep the content coming! Cheers from CT
I’ve done the full circle. First bike was an 07 Street bob. Traded in for a 21 LRS, then to a 17 SGS, then to a 22 RGS. I’ve now completed the circle and ended up on a 21 Street Bob because I missed feeling like I’m on a bike and not a recliner.
Dude that is a wild journey of bikes man! How did you set up the Street Bob?
My dyna I did some cheap 1 piece t bars, step up seat, quarter fairing, etc. The SOA special. I’m still in progress on the 21 street bob. I’ve done SDC seat, LED blinkers front and rear, moons mc light bar, tab zombie slip ons, and thrashin militant pegs. All I have left is the bars and I’m gonna do thrashin 6.5 pullback risers, steel bushings, and their aggressive mid bend bar.
I’m 5”6 1/2 , would a lowrider st be a good first Harley? Love the way they look
All this time later, I am actually of the school of thought that your first motorcycle should be something small, not as powerful, and cheap - A used Sportster or a Honda Rebel I feel like is a good choice for at least your first year
I bought a 2023 street bob and I take it on long rides with no issues 👍🏻 I did buy a Harley clamp on windshield which made a big difference on long rides. But I love it!
Definitely not a bike to sleep on - I did the smaller tank situation with those bikes
May take a test ride on the Low Rider ST. My 2010 RG is long paid for and I have had lots of great tours on it. Canada, Sturgis, Washington,DC and the usual local rides to mountains or sea. But maybe it's time to get into a different Harley motorcycle.
Do it! You may find yourself on one long term like myself
Sold my 2011 Street Glide CVO this spring and bought a 99 FXDX. The Glide was too big and bulky for my tastes, sold it after 18 months. I still have an 86 FXRD Grand Touring for my Supper Club nights and Fall Rides.
Excellent choice - Absolutely love my DX
I'm a youthful and fit 60 year old and have a different twist, my 2022 FXLRS is the first HD I ever liked, it's in my opinion the Company's best ever motorcycle. I've put roughly 6000 miles through it since May 2023 touring on it all over Maine and the North East. I'm 6' tall and 210lbs and this LR is comfortable. I've dialed it in for me with Thrashin Supply footboards and bags a Warrior windshield and Cobra NH slip ons. I have the only Gunship Grey FXLRS in an area with hundreds of Street and Road Glides, get compliments and looks from older riders every day. The 117 in a sub 700 lb bike is enough for anyone. The power to weight ratio is everything. Loving mine.
Really glad to read this - I have heard a lot of people around your height claiming they are too tall to make that bike work, but sounds like you got it dialed in right ⚡️
Finally, HD has done something that nobody is whining about.
I feel like they've had some other victories before this - The Dyna Low Rider S was a win as was the release of the M8 Low Rider S
@@FXDLSBrooklyn Most definitely. Just lately it seems a lot of people have been whining about something or other. I wish I could afford one of the newer ones, but I'll stick with my '06 Softail Not-so-Standard. I tend to keep them a while, that's my second new Harley, the first being a '92 Heritage. You know, even with the new fangled EFI, and all the other vast improvements that took place in between those two bikes, I still miss the carburetted Evo. It was slower, longer warm up time, didn't handle well, but she ate up those big miles with ease and never let me down. Don't get me wrong, I love the '06, and it's been heaps of fun and a great project that never seems to end, but there was something about that old Evo that I miss.
I gave my son my 2001 Roadking which was my dream bike. I bought my subsequent dream HD for a 2006 Springer Classic.
Different strokes for different folks. I love a Springer front end and not going with the crowd.
Damn you are an amazing Dad, that's awesome - How are you liking that 06?
I rode my buddies Low Rider ST in Sturgis, (of all places), this year when he wanted to give a girl a ride so we swapped for the day. (Mine, a 2020 RG with a 131 for his, a 2023 Low Rider ST with a 117), At my stature of 6'3" with girth found myself riding a mini bike. She pulled nice but I just couldn't get comfortable. He loves it, but then again he's probably 5'6" and skinny. Ride what makes you feel good, but if you're going to purchase one please rent one first for a day to make sure you fit
What did the girl think of the 131 RG?
Don't know, it started to rain in Deadwood, I headed back and they stayed. Didn't see him again till the next day and by that time he was solo@@FXDLSBrooklyn
I have bags on my Heritage Softail. I'll never be one to go on long cross country trips on a bike... but even daily riding, it's just too handy to have the bags if it means I can ride, rather than have to jump in the truck.
Absolutely - Definitely good for commuting
Awsome video, and yes i am too one of those , I did trade in my 21 FLHX for 23 FXLR ST. For me it was all those same reason as you mentioned. But I will say Cheaper??? Well not by much. But I am very glad I did , as it suits me better . Keep up the great work.
I appreciate you saying what's up and sharing that - How has it been since the switch? Any regrets?
No regrets at all , it’s everything I wanted in bike. Plus it’s one bike that can do everything, I mean from city to touring . I will say I am 5’7 and much better fitted with this bike than the RG, or SG. But I will say both those bike are fen nice to have but not for me .
Took a break from riding for 10 years. Put in an order for my 2022 S almost as soon and they were announced. Love the 117.
That's awesome, really glad you found your way back!
Second time I've "stepped down" from a bagger. In 2016 I got rid of a road glide for a dyna lowrider s. Got a road glide again a few years when I was let down for what the sport glide was compared to what I expected. I couldn't say no to the st after a year of looking at it. One test ride and I couldn't help myself
That's what happened to me, once I test rode one I knew it was something special - You still have the Dyna?
@FXDLSBrooklyn no, got way too good an offer since in 2019 the fxdls bikes were selling for a premium.
When I want faster and lighter I jump on the Speed Triple, if I want to cruise two up or tour I ride my SG. When I want to just go back to just the basics of a motorcycle I kick over the Shovel, no one said you can only ride one type of bike.
Oh, I almost forgot when I feel the urge to ride forest service or back country roads I jump on the mighty DR, I still love riding them all and will until the day comes I no longer can.
It is good to have options! Thanks for checking it out 🏁 ⚡️
Longtime viewer here I no longer own a Harley, but I still watch his channel and enjoy it. No One mention is that these touring bikes with these extreme temperatures in the summer being stuck in traffic that thing is like having a barbecue between your legs, I got rid of mine got on the Africa twin for me adventure bikes, are the way to go.
Nice! I'm not a Harley owner either but enjoyer of motovlog channels lol. For me the thing that's kept me from Harley is simply the prices. I've been riding a Triumph Speedmaster for the past 2 years that I found for only 11K with less than 500 miles when I found it. It's been a phenomenal commuter bike for me.
The Africa twin is a solid bike! Adv bikes probably do have the best utility of all the biking categories, but I'm too vain to get one lol. I love the retro styled bikes too much, I reckon I'll get a second bike that's a scrambler to fit that taste
Man I have a few buddies who moved on to Africa Twins from the Dyna/Bagger world - Got to see the Africa Twin in person and throw a leg over it two weeks ago, and my oh my, is that an amazing bike 💥
Had a 17 Street Bob for a few years. Traded the 17 for a 21 RG Special after my accident, and I haven't looked back since. The M8 moves when you have right combo of engine mods. Plus the HPI 2 into 1 pipe looks, so nice.
Yeah the HPI is definitely a great looking pipe - What engine mods did you do?
@@FXDLSBrooklyn to keep it all warranty friendly, it's a SE torque cam with a tune to match the cam and the pipe, paired with an Arlen Ness (RIP) high flow air cleaner. So my factory warranty is still happy, without fear of getting nickle and dimed to death while I ride like a bat of hell for the another year. Then high comp pistons, studs, and more Cu Inches!
Good story! Exactly why I’m still rockin the Dyna Switchback.
Good to hear a Switchback getting some miles! We so rarely see them out here in NYC
I traded in my 850 pound bagger for a 650 pound FXST last year. It's nice not having to maneuver that old road-tank in city traffic anymore.
For real man, definitely a game changer for city riding
Traded in my 04 Roadking for the st back in July rode it to sturgis and I have absolutely zero regrets about it
PREACH! Crazy how many people have wrote in with remarks like this
I have a 92’ FXR im thinking about selling it, its not perfect has about 42k on it, but pistons and rings were done at about 20k only because the jugs came off due to base gasket leak , all done by previous owner, other than that, basically its stock, its the FXR with chrome dash on the tank with the speedometer in it, I’ve owned this bike since early 2000’s , it’s been very reliable, only thing holding me back from letting it go is the bike market is sooo low , im not willing to give it away!
Oh yeah, hold onto to that thing - Never letting go of my FXR.
I bought a Low Rider ST and installed a Stage 2. This bike rocks. Fast & Agile!
That's what is up! What color you go with?
I took a FLXR-S out for a week of riding and dragged knees on it... I've been a sport bike rider for decades, but I had a great time riding it...
Now that Buell Super Cruiser... that thing looks like the bike Harley should be making.
You have to imagine that if that bike actually comes to fruition like the prototype suggests, that HD would have an answer...at some point
@@FXDLSBrooklyn my checking account is waiting.
I want from the road glide to a Lowrider ST because it’s lighter and I got the tobacco fade, which is the baddest bike around
I really dig the new fxr old school look. I have a 2020 Heritage and love it even though I love my baggers. I just love bikes!
🏁 ⚡️
I bought my RG in '06. I was 41. I still have the same bike. I had no bags, I had leather bags, milk crates and back packs on the mc's I owned prior to the RG. The thing is, bikes are like shoes. You need more than one because you never know what you need. But...if I can only have one, it will be the RG. And, that is why I have the same bike for 17 years. Going faster? Why? How fast do you want to go. It will never be fast enough because you will out grow it.
I own a 2012 super glide with a 96 I’m 5’9 220 and i rode it to Kansas with ease I’ve had for 5 years and I don’t see myself growing out of it I’d say it’s perfect
Excellent bike right there
I had a street glide for 3 years, loved it, but decided that i wanted "smaller". After going back to sport bike and a dyna, then older softail... and after STRONGLY considering a Lowrider ST I've found myself back on a '24 road glide for couple reasons. As mentioned you hardly go back, once you get used to the ride comfort, stereo/gadgets, and a feel for the touring models it seems to be hard to change. I was looking new, so the cost from ST to Road Glide was around ~$3000 which is a lot, but getting the Navigation, stereo and familiarity (for me) made it the better buy.
I traded in my sportster 1200 iron for a sport glide a few years back. Best decision I made. As far as handlebars go, I love the road glide handlebars, so I switched out the stock ones. Really comfortable ride now. I'm not leaning forward as much.
There's been a lot of people preaching the Sport Glide life on this video, cool to see!
When I looked at the Low Rider ST, I thought if I were a single rider, that would definitely be the bike for me. But since I ride 2-up with my wife, the best performance bike for us has been the Indian Pursuit. It's a heavy bike, but when throwing it into a curve it doesn't feel heavy at all. It feels like a big sportbike. I can certainly see the attraction to a sport-touring bike.
That's what's up - I am able to get away with a lot of two-up riding on the ST, but I have little to no experience with the pursuit, actually saw one on my block recently, looks like a great bike
@FXDLSBrooklyn It is.
Actually, when I said riding 2-up, that included long distance touring. I could do a road trip on a Low Rider ST by myself. But the wife with me, more storage space would be required. Us guys can get by with just a few necessary things. The ladies, they know how to use every bit of storage space a big bagger has. LOL!!
Is there a ride quality difference in a soft tail vs dyna with two rear shocks? Why did Harley build the new St off a soft tail platform ?
Ahh yeah, they are very, very different bikes from the frame, to the suspension, to the drivetrain